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Code Switch

What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.

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Episodes

Befuddled By Babies, Love And Ice Pops? Ask Code Switch

When social interactions become racially charged, sometimes even the most woke among us are prone to faux pas. So this week, we're taking on our listeners' most burning questions about race. We'll talk weddings. We'll talk kiddos. And most of all, we'll talk paletas. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Sep 27, 201728 min

A Weed Boom, But For Whom?

The history of cannabis in the U.S. ― and its criminalization ― is deeply interwoven with race. As the legal cannabis market gains traction, people of color who were targeted by the drug war could be left out of the green rush. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Sep 18, 201728 min

It's Getting (Dangerously) Hot in Herre

On this week's episode we talk about why certain communities are more vulnerable to catastrophic weather events like hurricanes and heat waves. Saying "mother nature doesn't discriminate," ignores the fact that discrimination exacerbates her wrath. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Sep 13, 201730 min

An Advertising Revolution: "Black People Are Not Dark-Skinned White People"

How do you get black people to buy cigarettes made for cowboys and antebellum-style beer? Turns out, you don't. On this episode: Tom Burrell, who transformed the ad industry with a simple motto, "Black people are not dark-skinned white people." Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Sep 06, 201728 min

'I'm Not A Racist, I'm Argentine!'

On this week's episode, a viral video gives us the opportunity to talk about racism towards and within the Latino community. When a Latino flipped over a street vendor's cart in Los Angeles, many were surprised it was a Latino-on-Latino incident. We'll talk about why the video is surprising and why it isn't. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Aug 30, 201721 min

The Unfinished Battle In the Capital Of The Confederacy

As calls to remove Confederate memorials grow louder, we head to Richmond, Va., where the veneration of Confederate leaders has been a source of local pride — and revulsion — for more than a century. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Aug 23, 201731 min

Charlottesville

After a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville spiraled into deadly violence, residents of the Virginia town do some soul-searching. Plus: a scholar on the politics of white resentment, and a GOP operative worries about the party's long-term future. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Aug 16, 201732 min

Who's Your Great-Great-Great-Great Granddaddy?

Spit into a tube and get in touch with your ancestors! Or not. On this episode we interview the founder of a project that uses DNA tests to talk about race in America. And Kim TallBear, a Native American anthropologist, says why she thinks DNA tests don't really tell you much about yourself. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Aug 09, 201727 min

The U.S. Census and Our Sense of Us

The Census is so much more than cold, hard data. It's about what we call ourselves, the ways we see ourselves and how we're represented. On this episode we ask the former head of the Census bureau why he quit. We talk about how the Census helped create 'Hispanic' identity. And we talk through some of the proposed race and ethnicity categories that may show up on the 2020 questionnaire. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Aug 02, 201726 min

What's Good? Talking Hip-Hop and Race With Stretch & Bobbito

Shereen and Gene mix it up with the pioneering hip-hop radio hosts Stretch and Bobbito. These impresarios ran a legendary show in New York City during most of the 1990s. Now they're hosting an interview podcast featuring guests like Stevie Wonder, Dave Chappelle and Mahershala Ali. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jul 26, 201724 min

What's So Wrong With African Americans Wearing African Clothes?

Leila Day and Hana Baba are hosts of a new podcast called The Stoop. It features conversations black people have amongst themselves — but rarely in public. The pair swing by to talk with Shereen and Gene about their show, and share an episode about a very thorny question: Can African-Americans wear clothing and accessories that originated with African cultures they're not familiar with? Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jul 19, 201725 min

A Police Video From Charlotte

This encore presentation goes deep on a case involving a white police officer and an unarmed black man in Charlotte, NC. Videos in police-involved shootings can add detail to these cases, but as our colleague Kelly McEvers of the Embedded podcast reports, what you see depends on who you are. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jul 12, 201744 min

The Supreme Court Decides In Favor Of A Racial Slur...Now What?

The U.S. Supreme Court recently decided in favor of Simon Tam, front man of the band The Slants. The group has been fighting the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for nearly a decade, for the right to use the slur. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Jul 05, 201720 min

It's Our Anniversary

Shereen and Gene celebrate our first year on the podcast. We take a look back to some memorable stories with updates from the team and some of our guests. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Jun 28, 201733 min

What To Make Of Philando Castile's Death, One Year Later

In the aftermath of the acquittal of the officer who shot and killed Philando Castile, Gene and Shereen speak to a reporter who has followed the case since the beginning. We also speak to a friend of Castile's. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Jun 21, 201722 min

Encore: 'You're A Grand Old Flag'

Why do some people of color embrace the American flag while others refuse to wave it? In this episode from the Code Switch archives, Gene Demby and Adrian Florido unpack the complicated patriotism and evolving use of the flag with immigrant rights protesters and Native American veterans. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jun 14, 201731 min

A Prescription For "Racial Imposter Syndrome"

Shereen and Gene look at "racial imposter syndrome." It's what one listener described as feeling fake, or inauthentic, in her identity. We invited listeners to write in, and hundreds of bi-racial and multi-cultural people shared their views. We'll also talk to social scientists about the basic need for belonging and the role language plays in identity. Later, writer Heidi Durrow joins us. She's founder of The Mixed-Remixed Festival, the largest annual gathering of its kind in the U.S. Learn more...

Jun 07, 201730 min

'Give It Up For DJ Blackface!'

This week, we follow the strange trend of white dance-music DJs who pass themselves off as black artists. Gene talks to legendary House music DJ Ron Trent. The European producer Guy Tavares chimes in from The Netherlands on what he sees as overhyped controversy. Piotr Orlov, who covers dance music for NPR weighs in on what this all means for music fans. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jun 01, 201729 min

We're Still Talking About "My Family's Slave"

This week, we join the global conversation on The Atlantic 's essay "My Family's Slave," in which Alex Tizon writes about Eudocia Tomas Pulido, who was his family's katulong, or domestic servant, for 56 years. Why did Eudocia's story hit such a raw nerve in the U.S. and the Philippines? Shereen and Gene talk to Vicente Rafael, a professor who has studied and written about the practice in his native Philippines. We also hear from Lydia Catina Amaya, a Filipina who was a katulong in the Philippine...

May 24, 201732 min

Japanese Americans Exiled In Utah

The story of over 100,000 Japanese Americans enduring life in internment camps during WW II is well known, but a few thousand avoided the camps, entirely by, essentially, self-exiling. Code Switch correspondent Karen Grigsby Bates talks with research historian Diana Tsuchida, about the hidden history of Japanese Americans who survived by creating farming communities, like the one in Keetley, Utah. We also hear directly from survivors about life as internally displaced American citizens. Learn mo...

May 20, 201718 min

Master of None's Alan Yang Unpacks Season 2

Gene and guest co-host Lenika Cruz, who covers culture at The Atlantic, welcome Alan Yang. He and comedian Aziz Ansari created an Emmy-winning comedy series that stepped comfortably out of the usual TV comfort zones. Master of None just premiered an already beloved second season, and Yang talks about making bold creative choices, crafting inclusive stories, and writing complex characters with an Asian American lead at the center of it all. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices...

May 17, 201724 min

The Blessing (And Curse?) Of Miss Saigon

Miss Saigon has returned to Broadway. When the hit musical was first performed was controversial for its stereotypes and story and casting choices. Shereen is joined by teammate Kat Chow to explore Miss Saigon's journey in 2017. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

May 10, 201722 min

Talking Black-ish With Star Yara Shahidi And Creator Kenya Barris

Black -ish creator (Kenya) and the show's 17-year-old star (Yara) talk about what's next for them on TV and in real life. Kenya explains why he's never felt pressure to explain cultural jokes. Yara breaks down ways Gen Z is ahead of the rest of us. Plus, they preview a possible spin-off! Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

May 03, 201731 min

The LA Unrest (Or Riots) 25 Years Later

We hear from a Latino city councilman who was there when it all went down, a Korean-American who worked at her family's gas station in Compton and a prominent black pastor who gave a memorable sermon to his South LA congregation. Oh, and we tag in our play cousins Mandalit Del Barco and David Greene for this one. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 29, 201721 min

John Leguizamo, Still In Search Of John Leguizamo

This week, Gene welcomes NPR's Audie Cornish to talk about multi-talented writer, producer and comedian John Leguizamo. As a performer, he's mined his Latino identity through his own family and old New York neighborhoods for decades. Audie interviewed Leguizamo in New York during the current run of his latest one-man show, Latin History For Morons . Now a father, Leguizamo struggles with what he knows and what he can teach his son and daughter about being Latino in the U.S., while challenging hi...

Apr 26, 201728 min

Mailbag! Listener Questions and Comments That Got Us Thinking

Shereen and Gene tackle listeners' reactions to recent episodes. One wants to know the difference between Persian and Iranian. (It's complicated.) Another wants more details about the risks to churches for becoming sanctuaries. (We asked a lawyer.) And a professor gave us a "loving critique" of our episode on Native hunting rights and sovereignty. (Thank you.) Plus a special call-out to the racial imposter in you. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy...

Apr 19, 201724 min

How One Inmate Changed The Prison System From The Inside

In this Podcast Extra, NPR correspondent Joe Shapiro recalls the life and legacy of Martin Sostre, someone he first reported on as a student in the 1970s. Sostre died a free man in 2015. But he spent at least nine years of his life in solitary confinement, including in the notorious Attica prison. Today, Sostre's life and pioneering prisoners' rights work is largely hidden from the public. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 15, 201712 min

The Beef Over Native American Hunting Rights

Shereen and Gene welcome reporter Nate Hegyi, who spent a day in Montana with a Nez Perce hunting party, a tribe that faces strong opposition from some who see these rights as unfair and out of sync with modern life. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Apr 12, 201721 min

Changing Colors In Comics

Gene and guest host Glen Weldon (our play cousin from Pop Culture Happy Hour) explore how comics are used as spaces for mapping race and identity. Gene visits Amalgam Comics and Coffeehouse in Philadelphia, and chats with proprietor Ariell Johnson who is reclaiming the comic book store, which once made her uneasy as a black fan. Meanwhile, C. Spike Trotman, another black woman, has made a name for herself as an online comics publisher of Iron Circus Comics in Chicago. We also talk to artist and ...

Apr 05, 201727 min

Podcast Extra En Español: Jeanette Vizguerra

Jeanette Vizguerra speaks with Adrian Florido about her experience living in the church where she's taken sanctuary as she fights her deportation case. Jeanette Vizguerra habla con Adrián Florido sobre su experiencia viviendo en la iglesia donde ha tomado santuario mientras disputa su caso de deportación. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 01, 201714 min
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