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Code and Country

Ian L. Paterson
A podcast focusing on the intersection between cybersecurity, national security, and geopolitics
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Ep 15: Katie Moussouris, CEO Luta Security

Katie Moussouris, founder and CEO of Luta Security, joins Code and Country to trace her path from MIT to pioneering vulnerability disclosure and launching “Hack the Pentagon.” She dives deep into the economics of the exploit market, the dangers of vulnerability disclosure laws, and how AI is shifting the dynamics of cybersecurity offense and defense. Katie also shares first-hand stories from her time shaping Microsoft's bug bounty program and working with the Pentagon. A must-listen for CISOs, I...

Jul 15, 202540 minEp. 15

Ep 14: Robert Young Pelton Author, Journalist, Explorer

In this episode of Code and Country , host Ian Paterson is joined by Robert Young Pelton, renowned war correspondent and author of Licensed to Kill and The World's Most Dangerous Places . Pelton shares firsthand accounts from his time embedded with the Taliban, Special Forces in Afghanistan, and rebel groups in Chechnya. He discusses the evolution of cyber warfare, the dark intersections of state and non-state actors in financial fraud, and how cyber tactics mirror battlefield strategy. Pelton a...

Jun 17, 202532 minEp. 14

Ep 13: Andrew Amaro, Former CSIS Ops Lead

What do spies, skateboarders, and startups have in common? Security. In this episode of Code and Country, former CSIS technical ops lead Andrew Amaro shares how his background in physical infiltration and cyber operations shaped his approach to enterprise security. We cover why insider threats remain the most overlooked risk, how physical access is still a cyber problem, and why org charts are failing security leaders. Andrew also explains how intelligence tactics can improve security posture, a...

Jun 03, 202532 minEp. 13

Ep 12: Best of Geopolitics (So Far)

In this special episode of Code and Country, we bring together insights from some of the world’s foremost experts in cybersecurity, intelligence, law, and defense. Built around the theme of geopolitics and digital conflict, this compilation traces how nation-state tensions, ransomware groups, and AI threats are converging to reshape the cyber battlefield. Civilian infrastructure is now a target. Compliance is no longer enough. The frontline has shifted from borders to networks. Some of the world...

May 20, 202512 minEp. 12

Ep 11: Patrick Gorman, Former US Intelligence Community CIO, CISO Bank of America

Nation-states don’t steal data, they wage war. In this episode of Code and Country, former US Intelligence Community CIO, CISO at Bank of America, and Chief Security Officer at Bridgewater Associates, Patrick Gorman exposes how cyber warfare threatens North America’s federal systems, higher education, BFSI, healthcare, and manufacturing sectors. Gorman reveals: How nation-state intent flips overnight, leaving CISOs and IT leaders scrambling Why compliance frameworks fail to defend against ransom...

May 06, 202521 minEp. 11

Ep 10: Manfred Boudreaux-Dehmer, NATO CIO

What does it take to defend 32 nations across five domains in an era of AI, quantum, and nation-state threats? In this episode of Code and Country , we sit down with NATO’s first-ever CIO and CISO, Manfred Boudreaux-Dehmer , for an inside look at the alliance’s approach to cybersecurity, digital transformation, and geopolitical defense. We explore why NATO consensus creates stronger decisions, how multi-domain operations integrate land, sea, air, cyber, and space defense, and what cyber leaders ...

Apr 22, 202531 minEp. 10

Ep 9: Brent Arnold - Partner and Data Breach Coach, Gowling WLG

When a ransomware attack hits, the headlines focus on the ransom. But what happens after the payment clears? In this episode of Code and Country, we bring in Partner and Data Breach Coach Brent Arnold of Gowling WLG (Canada) LLP to uncover the truth about data breach response, the limits of cyber insurance, and the legal frontlines of cybersecurity litigation. We take you inside why even “successful” ransomware payments often fail to recover your data, how insurers are rewriting the rules on cyb...

Apr 08, 202529 minEp. 9

Code and Country Ep. 8: Neil Bisson

In this episode of Code and Country, former CSIS and CBSA intelligence expert Neil Bisson explores the rising threats facing Canada and its allies. Cyber attacks, geopolitical tension, and cross-border crime are converging to reshape Canada’s security landscape. Cyber and physical threats are no longer separate. Nation-state actors and cybercriminals are launching digital attacks that disrupt infrastructure, communications, and even elections. Intelligence sharing is also shifting as the United ...

Mar 25, 202523 minEp. 8

Code and Country Ep. 7: Richard Fadden, former CSIS Director

Canada’s next election is already under attack—and most voters don’t even know it Foreign adversaries are not waiting for ballots to be cast before interfering in Canada’s 2025 federal election. The fight isn’t happening at polling stations—it’s happening online, in misinformation campaigns, and through AI-driven influence operations. In this episode of Code and Country, former CSIS Director Richard Fadden exposes how foreign actors, including China, are manipulating public perception long befor...

Mar 11, 202530 minEp. 7

Code and Country Ep. 6: Shelly Bruce

Ep. 6: Code and Country: The Security Agency You’ve Never Heard Of In this episode of Code and Country, we dive into the high-stakes world of cybersecurity, national security, and geopolitical threats with former Chief of Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s top cyber intelligence agency, Shelly Bruce. With more than 30 years at CSE, Bruce drove critical efforts in signals intelligence, cyber defense, and offensive cyber operations. She also led the creation of the Canadian Cent...

Feb 25, 202532 minEp. 6

Code and Country Ep. 5: Sami Khoury

Join us on Code and Country as we delve into the high-stakes world of cybersecurity with one of Canada’s top experts, Sami Khoury. Currently serving as the Senior Official for Cyber Security for the Government of Canada, Sami has a storied career spanning over three decades at the forefront of national and international cyber defense. From his early days as an engineer to leading the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security, Sami’s journey is a testament to the critical role of cybersecurity in safegu...

Feb 11, 202529 minEp. 5

Code and Country Ep. 4: Elizabeth Sizeland

In this episode of Code and Country, we talk to Elizabeth Sizeland, former U.K. Deputy National Security Adviser and Prime Minister’s Adviser on National Resilience and Security, to explore the evolving intersection of cybersecurity, resilience, and national security. From her leadership experience shaping U.K. cyber policies and managing domestic security crises, Elizabeth talks about how nations can combat state-sponsored cyber threats. She discusses the evolving role of the National Cyber For...

Jan 28, 202533 minEp. 4

Code and Country Ep. 3: VADM Mike McConnell, USN (Ret.)

What does it take to stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity? VADM Mike McConnell, USN (Ret.), former Director National Intelligence (DNI), Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) and Vice Chairman of Booz Allen Hamilton, joins Code and Country to share unparallelled insights on the critical issues shaping the digital defense landscape today. From tackling advanced ransomware attacks to leveraging AI-driven cybersecurity solutions, VADM McConnell discusses the challenges an...

Jan 15, 20251 hrEp. 3

Code and Country Ep. 2: Ed Hammersla

In this episode of Code and Country, cybersecurity expert Ed Hammersla explores the evolution of cybersecurity in both the government and commercial sectors. With decades of experience at IBM, Raytheon, and Trusted Computer Solutions, Ed discusses cutting-edge topics like trusted Linux systems, cross-domain solutions, and securing sensitive data. Discover how automation, artificial intelligence, and collaboration are reshaping cybersecurity strategies to combat ransomware and cyber threats while...

Dec 31, 202442 minEp. 2

Code and Country Ep 1: Chris Lynam, RCMP

In the inaugural episode of Code and Country, Plurilock CEO Ian L. Paterson and Chris Lynam of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police talk about cybersecurity, national security, and law enforcement's evolving role in combating cybercrime. Learn about Chris' career, the NC3's mission to reduce the impact of cybercrime on Canada, their collaboration with international partners, and the challenges posed by technological advancements and cyber threats. NOTE: The views and opinions expressed in this prog...

Dec 12, 202431 minEp. 1
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