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Today in the group chat, both the US and Iran say there's an agreement to open the Strait of Hormuz on Friday. Why not open it right away?
The Iranians are incredibly difficult negotiators.
And former President Obama says he's doubtful Trump's agreement will be much different than his. True? Or just sour grapes?
Just getting to enjoy God's green earth and then have something like this turn so tragic.
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A plane full of skydivers. Crashes right after takeoff, killing everyone on board. We're gonna talk about what happened moments before it went down. And Senator Mitch McConnell hospitalized what we know about his condition this morning.
Too much time spent on screens is not good for anyone, never mind. Someone's brain's still developing.
In the UK, they want to give their kids their childhood back, but will a new social media ban actually work?
Our country was built on fighting against, you know, for independence.
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UFC fight night at the White House Lawn. What could the event's legacy be? And the Carolina Hurricanes are Stanley Cup champions capping off the season with a shutout over the Las Vegas Golden Knights.
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¶ US-Iran Deal: Initial Agreement and Demands
A diplomatic breakthrough. The US and Iran say they have reached a deal to end the war and to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. It will take effect on Friday. We're gonna talk about why they're waiting.
Sometimes these cease fires take a little bit of time to take root. People are very good over there at fighting each other. I'm not gonna say that everybody's gonna sing Kumbaya tomorrow. It's gonna take a little bit of time to learn the ways of peace, but I do think we took a major, major step.
Good morning everybody. I'm Audi Cornish. We're gonna begin with the commitment from the US and Iran to end the months-long conflict, but already there's a bit of a snag. Tehran saying that sixty days of nuclear negotiations will begin once the US meets three commitments. They want the US to end the naval blockade, end military operations against Iran, and release billions of dollars in frozen Iranian funds.
This memorandum of understanding was reached despite our complete distrust of our enemies. We have no trust in the enemy. Our trust lies in our military strength, our diplomatic capabilities, and the support and unity of our own people. That is why the implementation of this memorandum of understanding is extremely important. We have specific plans in place to monitor the implementation of US commitments under this memorandum.
But a U.S. official is saying that no funds will be released before Iran implements its commitments. So could this derail things?
¶ Negotiation Difficulties and Strait Challenges
I'm going to bring in CNN Global Affairs commentator and former Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary, Sabrina Singh. So Sabrina, good morning. Thank you for being here. Um, so first I wanna just talk about the the latest Iran saying, look, we're not doing anything until money is unfrozen. Um and then the US disputing that. Here's uh the US ambassador to the UN, Mike Waltz, uh speaking on Sunday. We'll talk on the other side of that.
The Iranians are incredibly difficult negotiators couple uh uh coupled with the fact uh that they're having a very hard time getting guidance uh from their supreme leader and they're not always on the same page within their team between the civilians and military. So uh you know The the team has had their hands full dealing with them, uh, but the president has every intent to get this done.
Um he sort of nodded to something I think that maybe people don't fully appreciate, which is that Iran's regime is pretty much in place, even as as though a tier of leadership was killed in these um strikes. So answer the question that he's raising here of like negotiation, the money, what are the complications?
The complications here is that Iran is very skilled at negotiating, and this regime in particular is more hard hardlined than the previous regime. I mean, they are willing to incur the costs and the military strikes that the US and Israel have conducted.
Um over it we've seen a significant amount of time. I think what's interesting about this memorandum of understanding or this new agreement is it's only there to open the straights. It does not address the thorniest issues which we know Iran is really going to drag its feet on.
which are the nuclear its nuclear program and the highly enriched uranium that is still sitting in Iran. And so um while this agreement basically r s tries to restore the status to pre war status, it still doesn't address those nuclear agreements and Iran no like Like Mike Walls was saying, Iran knows how to play the game to draw the United States out. If we're talking about negotiating at minimum within sixty days, that is bringing us up right up to the midterms.
And I think Iran knows that the United States is not going to want to start up kinetic action right before the midterms, right before voting starts.
Military questions. One, when we say the strait is opening, um, i does that mean that they're gonna Iran just backs down, the US backs down, are there mines in the strait? Like are there still dangers there?
I think both sides could say today that the strait is open and that they're clearing the mines from the strait. But the only ones that are going to determine if the strait is open are the shipping companies. Are they willing to allow their ships to start going through the strait and potentially incurring costs if, let's say, a drone is launched from Iran or there's crossfire between the two sides. So even though Donald Trump is saying on Friday this trade is open, it is still
We won't know until ships pass.
Exactly.
¶ Israel's Reaction and Regional Instability
Last thing militarily, Israel. Israel, we're gonna talk about in this program across the political spectrum, unhappy with this deal. And in part because of military reasons. They say it doesn't address their issues around proxies that Iran backs like Hezbollah It doesn't even talk about ballistic missiles. That's not even in the conversation around the memorim of understanding at least so far. This is kind of the same criticism that the Obama deal had.
I I mean, y you might not have agreed with the JCPOA, but that was something th under the Obama administration, but that was something that took almost two years to negotiate. Now with Israel, what's interesting about this agreement that this administration has negotiated, Israel is not party to the agreement. And they have said, I mean, I think as early as this morning, that they might continue to conduct operations in Lebanon. So between now and Friday.
things could get derailed very quickly. I think President Trump he wanted to win on his birthday, uh which he which he got this agreement, and he also wanted to walk into the G seven with saying, hey, this war is coming to an end, European partners, now it's time to do your part and help us clear that.
Israel has seized a amount of land that's like around the size of New York City and says it's going to continue its c its battle against Hezbollah.
I think it's going to be very difficult if Israel s continues to conduct military operations for th for Iran to agree to terms with the United States when it's going to say to the United States This is also an aggressor in this war that also struck our country. You need to pull them back. And that's why you saw the president sort of react in some of these um interviews that he was giving on Sunday.
saying, you know, what is B B doing? Because he does not want to see this agreement go off the rails.
Okay, Sabrina, thank you so much for giving us some of the update there. Coming up on CNN this morning, President Trump, as Sabrina just said, has been calling out Benjamin Netanyahu. So we're gonna talk about why Trump would be saying that Netanyahu has quote no effing judgment after the Israeli PM hit Lebanon right after the announcement of an agreement with Iran.
¶ Skydiver Crash and Election Security Briefs
skydiving plane crashes in decades. We're gonna talk about what one witness had to say right before the plane went down. And will you see ice at the polling stations? For the midterms, the Homeland Security Secretary is not ruling it out.
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¶ Political Spin on the Iran Deal
It was important for President Trump to have a deal with Iran before traveling to Europe for a summit with G7 leaders. That's what sources are telling CNN. The timing is also crucial because it came on Trump's eightieth birthday. and his White House UFC fight to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. So we're bringing in the group chat to talk more. Sarah Fisher, CNN senior media analyst and senior media reporter at Axios.
Alina Schneider, National Political Reporter, notice, and Francesca Chambers, White House correspondent at USA Today. So to set this up, I want to play the message the administration was sending, not to Iran, not to Israel, but to the American people. Here is J.D. Vance talking on Fox News Sunday in the aftermath of the announcement of this memorandum.
My primary message to the American people is thank you because of your patience. I think that we've solved the problem that has plagued this country again for for well before I was even born. But this is just a great thing for the American people. I know that they've suffered from high gas prices. The president has certainly been very concerned about that fact. But what we're gonna be able to do is drive down the cost of energy, not just now but for the long term.
Francesca, this seems like the specifically this kind of sentence is the message they had hoped to deliver on this day of so many things when the president wanted good news.
Well, and there's still a long way to go until we see a final deal. They want that to come in the next sixty days, but the experts Critics, even supporters of the administration who have come out, you know, in the last twenty-four hours are saying that the devil is essentially in the details. I mean, Iran may have agreed to give the United States the enriched uranium or downblend it.
We still don't know what that looks like. We still don't know whether or not they're gonna dismantle their nuclear program. The United States says that they will. But again, that all has to be worked out as part of this final agreement. This is just a memorandum of understanding.
And yet, Vance comes out and is like, thanks for being patient. It's been a tough couple of weeks. Let's wrap it up. They can feel the hands going like this. Given all the question marks Francesca just raised. What's the danger of telling everyone this?
¶ Economic and Electoral Risks of Deal
Well look, I think that there is a political reality that they are reacting to, which is the pain that voters are feeling every single day when they go fill up their cars and are looking at high gas prices.
and connect that to the ongoing operations and you know what's what's been happening in Iran. And they want to take a victory lap as soon as possible to point out, say, okay, this is now gonna change. We can we can see that this gonna change. The the challenge for them is is it actually going to change? Because Even if they are able to work out some sort of deal here, the ceasefire holds, they start negotiating on this.
Getting those supply chains, getting that gas to you know through the Strait of Hormuz is not gonna happen right away. And experts have said time and again that that that gas prices are gonna take a little while to come back to
People are looking right now as you're speaking at the journey that gas prices will have to take from that peak. And it's a long climb. The thing is also once you say something like that, you kind of start a clock. Like, oh, okay, things are gonna get better when? And when you're looking at disapproval ratings um that have moved significantly when you're looking at um questions of specifically how have you handled the economy, for example, and seeing independence.
82% disapprove, it feels as though it's a bit of a risk to keep saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's happening, it's happening.
You have a five-month time clock until the med midterms, so that's the horizon that they're working with. And I think most experts will argue that.
Okay.
The supply chain issues are interesting because there's a lag time between obviously when ships can get there and not.
Can you speak it into existence? Like if you just say it's g it's getting better, will it get better?
You cannot, but so let's say after the 60 days the strait does open, then you have three months, and that should be enough time actually for us to start seeing an impact on oil. And we did see overnight that some of the crude oil prices have gone down on the index. But if there is any delay at that, there's not a lot of wicked.
And so that's where they can run into some problems. If oil prices are still in some places above five or anywhere in the top, you know, ha bot top half of the four dollar range, you're gonna have a lot of problems leading up to the midterm.
¶ G7 Meeting and Vance's Role
Trump has been so bummed uh about the way Europe has kind of stayed out of this whole thing. He's gonna be meeting with G seven leaders when they uh made their various announcements today. I could read them all, but they basically all say they welcome the agreement.
Over the it seems like they agreed on what they would be saying. So Francesca, just heading into today, what is the goal for Trump? Who's been kind of dismissive of this group of people? Is he gonna say to them, You guys weren't helpful, but it would be helpful if you'd get some ships through?
I mean they welcome their help with demining efforts that would help get the Strait of Hormuz fully reopened. But I did want to just touch on one other thing that you were saying about the vice president for a minute because He was called by Lindsey Graham the architect of this agreement. And that was really
Must have been surprised.
Well that was but it was a very interesting comment because he was really put Lindsey Graham, close ally of the administration, really putting this at the vice president's feet at this point. And so it's not just the comments that he's making publicly, the vice president, it's these other comments for coming from allies of the Trump administration uh putting this, if it doesn't work out, at the vice president's fee.
Um last week I actually talked to the vice president about the Iran war and he told me that he doesn't think it's gonna become a quagmire, that we're not even gonna be talking about this a year from now. So the one that the statement that you laid out isn't the only mile marker that he's putting forward.
But can I translate your statement? Lindsey Graham, the Hawk, who's been cheering this on the whole time, is trying to put the actual deal at the feet of J. D. Vance, who's not been cheering this on the whole time, so that if it goes sideways, everyone can say somehow Vance was Mm.
Well I'm saying that th that Lindsey Graham is by in calling him the architect of this negotiation, this deal that's coming forward, and the vice president was very, very involved, uh is putting the onus on him if this doesn't work out. I'm not
Yes. So if it goes bad everyone can be
And he's saying that and that time will tell. I'm saying that politically it becomes a risk for the vice president at that point when you have allies of the administration saying he was the architect.
Yeah.
¶ UK Social Media Ban and UFC Event Costs
Okay, we're gonna talk more about this as we learn more about this memorandum this week. And then after the break on CNN this morning, did you know that the UK is the latest country to ban kids under the age of 16 from all social media? We're gonna find out whether these
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The head of the UFC, Dana White, says he won't be doing the White House fight night again, despite it being what he called an overwhelming success. In the meantime, good morning.
¶ White House UFC: Event and Political Strategy
Morning, very early morning, to Seattle, which is hosting a World Cup match today. Belgium and Egypt face off at 3 p.m. Eastern.
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For the people who said there shouldn't be a cage fight at the White House, what do you say?
They might be right, but since it's here
Yeah.
We're gonna be here.
I don't agree with everything Donald Trump has has been doing this term. But I'm here and I'm enjoying the moment.
Okay, UFC fight on the White House lawn. Whether you agreed with it or not, it happened. It was real. Weather slightly delayed the start as President Trump took his seat ringside alongside UFC CEO. Dana White, officially the event was held on Flag Day, which just also happened to be Donald Trump's 80th birthday. And at one point the crowd sang happy birthday.
And after several fights, the night wrapped up. Just after 1 a.m. with President Trump greeting the new champion in the octagon, the event was the first of its kind on the White House grounds. So we're gonna ask, how's it gonna be remembered? Both for the sport, the sport, the sport, the sport, the And in US history. Joining me now is Mike Leon. He's the host of the podcast. Can We Please Talk? Good morning, Mike. How are you?
Good to see you, Audie. How's everything?
So as a fight was it good? Like as the card, the tournament. I know the polymarket, Cal Shi prediction markets did very well, uh, with all of these different bouts, but what was it like just as a fan?
Yeah, just as a fan, you know, working in the combat sports space and and s overseeing productions, from a production element standpoint, it really was uh immersive, expansive. I mean, we could talk about you couldn't watch it unless you had
a Paramount Plus subscription. It wasn't free over the air like on CBS, which I thought the president probably would have done or at least Dana White would have done. But you gotta recoup those costs of the sixty million that they spent to to do all of this and the claw and everything that they implemented. But Just from a T V perspective, watching it, the the shoulder programming that they did, uh a Chris Wideman is a friend of mine who happened to do some of the
pre fight coverage there. It it really was a a true event outside of a typical arena or some type of setting that housed combat sports. But There's a bunch of things underlying uh in terms of the event with respect to politics. But from a fight night perspective, Audi, it actually was a pretty decent sporting event.
And to your point, Dana White pretty much is like, I'm not gonna do this again just because of the sheer expense, but I wanna get to something which is who was, you know, in the octagon and who was not. You had UFC middleweight champion Sean Strickland. He was off the card and he's the reigning Champ, right? Middleweight champ. Um and Strickland thinks he knows why. Uh he basically has turned down He's been this outspoken
you know, uh critic of Trump on social media. He says that he stopped supporting Trump after quote, Israel made him bomb Iran the first time. Another thing he's posted saying that he got a call from UFC saying he quote wasn't cleared by the White House and honestly he showed up anyway in an extreme MMA on brand situation, um, was escorted out by park police. I mean, it actually became
like a a bit of a thing here. Um help me make sense of this. It's a big UFC night, a big UFC stars getting hauled out with all this security. What's the politics?
I mean, remember there's an element of how UFC is also in partnership with the WWE, right? There's a performative element with some of that for Strickland doing that. And there's also guys who fought on the card. I don't know if you saw the video audio of the
the person who said the comments about Michelle Obama in the post fight interview with Joe Rogan, which was disgusting. Um there are some things that are from a performance standpoint always going to mirror what we kind of see i in WWE. Strickland is is uh Right to a certain extent. There's a reason why he was left off to the card non politics perspective wise. There were a few other fights that actually dropped out from this card, but in terms of the event overall, like I said,
it it was a pretty solid event. But to make sense of it, Audi, I mean they get punched in the head, they grapple. Sometimes people say different things and they have different political leanings. This is what you get in the combat sports space. I remember working at an event where one of our fighters before the election in 24 wore Trump trunks. And I remember saying to him in the locker room.
Could you not like again uh freedom of speech, you can wear whatever you want, but like you're going to get more attention doing this. And he's like, I'm gonna do it anyway. And then he went out there and did it anyway. So that's if you want me to make sense of it, Audie, that's the way to make sense of it. I there is no sense. They get punched in the head for a living.
Does this win over some of the young men that Trump is losing and some of his approval ratings?
Audi, you and I talked about this last week when I was in studio with you. Trump has always used the combat sports space as this outlet and vehicle to talk to voters, whether it be his stuff that he did in the boxing space years ago. this relationship with Dana White, obviously with the Ellison family, with Paramount. He has always been in a combat sports space because he he thinks it makes him seem relatable, that he loves these sports.
And these are the type of fans and again, speaking with conservative voters over years in different cities, they've talked about his attendance at these events and Democrats don't go to these type of things, whereas Trump does.
R I told you uh last week, Ruben Gallego and I've had this conversation about Democrats potentially leaning into like boxing events through the relationships that I have in the combat sports base. And it's just there there's voters there that I feel are being left out and they feel.
They're being left out of the conversation. And the president at least humors them by going to these events. I I think you could get a trickle, but then it comes back to how many people truly watched a UFC event that was behind the pavement. on Paramount Plus. So we'd have to see what the ripple effect looks like.
Okay, Mike Leon, thanks for your expertise, you appreciate it. And if you have questions about last night's UFC fight at the White House, CNN's John Berman, Sarah Snyder, and Donnie O'Sullivan will react and answer to those subscriber questions and a live interactive QA. Head to CNN.com subscriber series to drop your questions.
¶ Obama's Doubts on Trump's Iran Agreement
And join them today at noon Eastern for the live discussion. And straight ahead on CNN this morning, Obama says, doubtful Trump's agreement will be much different than his. We're gonna look at what could be the difference between the two agreements. Plus the Carolina Hurricanes raising the Stanley Cup more on their win to cement them as two-time champions.
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Good morning everybody. I'm Audie Cornish. Thank you for joining me on CNN this morning. It is half past the hour, and here's what's happening right now. NTSB investigators will arrive in Missouri today after one of the deadliest U.S. skydiving plane crashes in decades. Twelve people are dead after a plane went down shortly after takeoff Sunday in Butler, County.
Missouri. This is about an hour south of Kansas City. Nine of the victims were actually experienced skydivers, and some family members were watching from the ground below.
This is tough. It's a it's a beautiful day here. Uh blue skies, green grass, uh people out enjoying something that I I I think some of these were first time skydivers uh preparing to skydive in a tandem formation.
The airport manager believes the plane may have lost power and the pilot may have been attempting to land on the highway before going down nose first. The investigation could take years to complete.
Thank you.
And Senator Mitch McConnell. was admitted to the hospital Sunday morning. His spokesperson did not reveal the cause. He told CNN the 84 year old is receiving excellent care. Now the Republican senator has faced a number of serious health conditions in recent years, including a concussion and a very good idea. Broken ribs in 2023 after a fall. He is currently serving his final term in Congress. He is not running for re-election.
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¶ Israel's Outcry and Deal Derailment Threat
Анбор президент Трамп конферм до ЮСНИран речный агремен. This tentative deal was almost derailed by Israel. And Trump blasted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu after Israel bombed Beirut's southern suburbs on Sunday. He told a reporter from Axios, Netanyahu had quote, no effing judgment. Vice President Vance detailed the high-stakes back channel diplomacy that kept the agreement alive.
After the Israelis stuck struck Beirut, we were very worried and we saw a lot of evidence that the Iranians were gonna launch a large number of missiles at the Israelis. With our our communication with them over the course of getting to this to this signed peace. they they assured us that they were not going to respond to the Israelis and they were going to sign this agreement and get to peace.
CNN's Orin Lieberman is live in Jerusalem. And Orin, um you've got uh is Iranian officials saying quote, Lebanon is our lifeblood. Any violation of the Islamic Republic's red lines will not be tolerated. And then you've got Israel and the political reaction there, which uh correct me if I'm wrong, seems kind of like universally poor.
Absolutely, we haven't heard from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and we'll come back to that in a second. But we have heard from some of Indies government ministers, even as we don't know the full extent of this deal. One minister said uh quote the deal is bad for Israel and the entire free world, while another one said it does not ensure our security. So you see that reaction.
Netanyahu, however, has been notably quiet. In fact, the only message she posted on social media yesterday related to any of this was a happy birthday message to Trump. And yet you have Lebanon in the middle of all of this. You have Netanyahu who wanted to continue and still wants to continue the wars both in Lebanon and with Iran, but President Donald Trump is simply making it clear that he's
uh pursuing diplomacy, going in a different direction, and believes that this ceasefire agreement will, frankly, in his uh in his mind, solve a lot of the region's problems. It's also noteworthy that Trump, and it's hard to imagine any other Republican or Democratic president doing this. called the Hezbollah attacks on northern Israel that triggered Israeli attacks in Beirut, quote,
Very small and meaningless. Difficult to do to see anybody else doing doing that for an attack on Israel from a US designated terrorist organization. Now the question is, will the conflict in Lebanon derail what will be very difficult negotiations? following this s following this uh signing of the memorandum of of understanding here. And and that
is at least as of right now unclear. Trump has demanded that Israel stop attacking anywhere in Lebanon, and he said his bullet should stop attacking Israel, but that's a demand we've seen before in mid-April in a previous ceasefire. And that fell apart within a matter of days. Meanwhile, Israel's defense minister has said that Israel has no intention and will not withdraw from the territories it occupies in southern Lebanon.
And that could also put a roadblock in all of this as Iran is demanding a Lebanon ceasefire as part of this broader agreement. And Audia, I think it's quite clear where Trump is headed here in terms of what he's looking for.
Okay, that's Orin Leverman with the word from Jerusalem. I want to turn to this other aspect of this tentative agreement. We're just at the start of the process. But former President Barack Obama says that when he negotiated a deal with Iran more than a decade ago, he did it without military intervention. Now we know that Trump withdrew the U.S. from that agreement in his first term, this was in 2018.
But now Obama is saying that he's skeptical that a better deal has been produced under the current administration.
It is doubtful that any agreement that arises is going to be significantly different or a significant improvement from the deal that we had in the first place. Um and had worked for um for a long stretch of time uh before we the United States pulled out of it.
¶ Comparing Iran Deal Approaches
Group chat is back. Um there's a lot of differences. We can go down the rabbit hole on that deal and how it dealt with inspections and verification. Why do you think Obama is speaking up now? We don't usually see him comment on policy in real time.
Well, one, I think he has broader communication goals around things that he's doing with his foundation and his library, so that's part of the media tour. But then two, I think he wants to remind the American people that what they did in twenty fifteen
was in some ways um uh a more permanent solution to than what we have now. Because what they focused on in twenty fifteen was really focused on the nuclear program. It wasn't as broad as what Trump is trying to do and as a result of that I think the Iran felt pretty committed to it.
What the Trump administration is trying to do dou now is so much more broad that I think Obama is trying to remind people of his skepticism that something that broad can A get done but B even uh last long term because as Trump did, he came in and reversed this agreement, right? What's stopping a new democratic administration from coming in and dismantling
the one that Trump is putting forth. And then I think the last thing that the former president is trying to remind everybody here is that these actually from the nuclear perspective are relatively similar in some ways.
The broad agreement.
just the nuclear piece. Both have sunset provisions, meaning that Iran could revisit this in like ten or fifteen years. Um and both of them are essentially trying to get Iran to concede on the Iranium side, but He wants people to know, like, all of this for what?
Right. And by this we mean strikes. We were just talking about Israel, it's pushed into Lebanon. These uh strikes were launched with uh Israel at the start. The way that Pete Hegsef is trying to distinguish the difference in this. is he's saying, look, the Obama deal relied on going through international inspectors and putting up with Iran's nonsense with cameras and hiding things on inspection day. But he says the Trump deal will be different. And here is how he explains that.
It's performance based. No money released to Iran until they perform. Uh there's no uh trust and verify. There's a there's no trust here and we're gonna verify everything. Nuclear material will be destroyed and removed, the nuclear program will be dismantled. the straits will be open, no tolling. Uh this is this is not a the JCPOA was a path to a bomb. Uh what this deal will be will be a wall to a bomb.
I don't think the Trump administration would disagree with Obama on the point that they did bomb Iran and they're still threatening Iran with bombs. I mean, he went on to say that uh if they don't comply with this, that they're gonna have to deal with the Department of War. Uh there are of course skepticism today whether or not the US would actually continue a w or restart rather a bombing campaign.
Our threats are enough. Our threat of military action is enough. We don't need to set up all the guardrails and things that went through diplomacy because Iran is like sufficiently scared.
Well, they're also saying though that we would be willing to restart that and there is skepticism right now as to whether as we get closer to the midterms. that they would actually restart a bombing campaign as we were talking about in the earlier segment uh with the high gas prices and the president's approval rating and and and the like. I mean that is the threat has to be legitimate in order for it to work.
Well and I think too that there's just a difference in reality of what uh the Iranian people and the Iranian government feel like they're able to do in this moment versus what they thought they could do in twenty fifteen. They are sort of in some ways newly empowered in their ability to realize that they really can, you know, choke off
uh the the oil markets through the Strait of Hormuz and can affect real change. That's a shift in a power dynamic that is, I think, notable from what uh you know, the Americans were were dealing with in terms of the twenty fifteen negotiations where Again, Iran feels like now they have a bit more of a lever here.
¶ UK's Sweeping Youth Social Media Ban
learned what their leverage is. Okay, you guys stick with me. I wanna turn very briefly. The UK announces a sweeping social social media ban. for children under the age of sixteen. And this is gonna apply to both social media sites as well as gaming and live streaming. And the British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, made this announcement earlier this morning.
But government is always about choices. And it's clear to me that a full ban is the right choice.
So from London, CNN's Nada Bashir. Nada, walk us through how this ban is going to work and what the reaction is this morning.
Well look Audie this is being described by the government as a watershed moment and it won't come into effect instantaneously but this Uh latest regulation is expected to come before Parliament before the end of the year and is expected to be implemented fully uh early 2027. And of course This wasn't a immediate snap decision by the government. There have been months of consultations with parents, with
uh young people with industry professionals as well. We've heard from the government putting out those statistics saying that they uh spoke to more than 1,116 people, that more than 83% of parents agree that the benefits of this social media ban outweighed uh the negatives. And of course, uh while there have been some measures put in place in the past to try to protect child safety online, including from organisations
uh like meta. This is being described as one of the most sweeping uh bans and regulations that we have seen to date and of course follows a similar decision taken uh by Australia to limit and restrict social media for under 16. But of course, this has received a mixed response. On the whole, it appears that parents feel that this is a positive measure. Take a listen.
If it's how kids are socializing, then are we going to have problems with like isolation and loneliness? So there needs to potentially be alternatives for younger children, social media that's safer for teenagers rather than just point blank wiping it out.
I didn't have social media until I was sixteen. Um, I loved life before that. And I think like a lot of insecurities I had were from You know, interacting with stuff online.
Good thing. Too much time spent on screens is not good for anyone, never mind. Someone's brain's still developing.
And already it's not just social media, the government is looking at restrictions on live streaming platforms, on platforms that allow young people to speak to strangers uh online. And they are also looking at potential measures. for curfews to prevent doom scrolling at night for under eighteen year olds as well. Woody?
That's not a bashier in London. About that social media band, thank you. And I want to turn next to
¶ Congressional Debate on Iran Deal
President Trump en route to France for the G seven today. Does news of a quote agreement with Iran change how he will be received? We're gonna hear from Democratic congressman Jonathan Jackson. He sits on the foreign affairs коміте. That's next.
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President Trump now aboard Air Force One en route to Geneva, Switzerland for a G seven summit in France. News of a deal to end fighting with Iran has been a welcome development for European leaders. But Israeli lawmakers are furious. Netanyahu's far-right national security minister tweeted out: adding, Israel is not subordinate to the United States. And then the leader of Israel's left-wing party seems to agree, saying the deal was quote
uh made over Israel's head. Joining me now to talk about this, Congressman Jonathan Jackson, he's a Democrat uh from Illinois. Good morning. Thank you so much for being here. Um I wanted to talk to a lawmaker because uh Lindsey Graham tweeted out this. Um first he said I'm somewhat concerned that Iran's view of the agreement seems different than what the American negotiating team is claiming.
And then he says this, under our law, any nuclear deal with Iran will be sent to Congress for review and a vote. And he says he looks forward to reviewing the final product. Do you expect Congress to want to review this deal?
Absolutely. And the question I think all it comes down to is this a deal versus a diplomatic agreement? A diplomatic agreement would have the allies buy in, it would have the lawmakers participate. The deal is purely transactional, trading concessions. The Iranians had, after their bombing, had closed down the Strait of Hammuz. And only for the Trump administration to say they've now put sanctions on the closing of the strait, well, it was already closed.
And so it's very convoluted, it's not clear, and this is very transactional is too um myopic in my opinion. And what they've agreed to essentially is to have uh the opportunity within sixty days
Right. This is an extension of the ceasefire. We we should be clear, full text is not released. But the claim is that they would be lifting the naval blockade, reopening the Strait of Hormuz, and ensure that the strait remains toll free. And then as you said, nuclear talks would begin after any kind of formal signing. The thing I noticed is uh the president was saying something about um policing and the US's ability to police this area.
When you hear a word like that, do you hear troops on the ground? Do you hear just our ongoing um ab ability to keep Iran in line?
Oh, it's troops on the ground, no doubt about it. And we've also heard conflicting messages of they've been the United States has been taking millions of barrels of oil. People would like to have further clarification of that. Um Curiously missing in this negotiation or this discussion is Mr. Jared Kushner, um, our super volunteer. This is not being led by Secretary Rubio. This is not being led by the Secretary of Defense who misled the president.
on what the Iranians response and capabilities would be. And so we need to get the diplomatic core. I like to see Secretary Rubio lead this negotiation. He's capable, he's qualified. We don't need a super volunteer, Mr. Jared Kushner. He was going to Islamabad just last month saying he was negotiating this. Let's get our diplomats and get our professionals back to the table so members of Congress can get information.
Um, you had Lyntigram calling J D Vance the architect of this deal. He's the one name I didn't hear you say just now. Do you think he's the architect of this deal?
I don't know what JD Vance really does. He does slapstick and just as an attack person, but he's not been in a very constructive role. Uh I know Uh Mr Witkoff and Mr Jared Kushner had been going to Islamabad. I think mister um the secret the vice president had gone over there. But it should be going to the corresponding channels of the diplomats, which would be in the Secretary of Defense, uh in in the Secretary of State.
uh then the Congress would know who we can talk to. We frankly don't know who to talk to. I would like to see some of these personnels come before our chairman, uh Chairman Mass. on the Republican side, our ranking member, uh Mr. Meeks on the Democratic side. So we can do this in the normal course of business in the United States Congress.
Okay, that's Congressman Jackson. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Thank you.
¶ Group Chat Fun: World Cup and Quirky News
All right, I want to talk now about what's in our group chats because it's the start of the week. We've got the president on the way to Europe. We've just come off like multiple sporting events. Um talk about Sarah what's in your group chat?
I have been loving watching the World Cup tourists come into the US and post on social media all the things that they think are wondrous about our country. So like watching them experience big goal. for the first time or a Taco Bell for the first time. Who among us has not? There was a viral clip of somebody experiencing a New Jersey deli, which is a Jersey girl. I really appreciate it. But it also makes you think about how special it is that we are hosting the World Cup here.
Of course, the one thing that's a little sad, there's no World Cup matches already being held in our nation's capital. The hope is that when the new Commander Stadium goes big, then we're going to get to experience something like that. But it's just been fun to watch the whole world experience parts of American culture that we kind of take for granted.
You can't build one of those on the lawn that doesn't not enough.
Really reps. Big bowl penny.
Okay, I'm actually with you as someone who's from Kansas City. This has been a very exciting time, you know, for the World Cup to come to Kansas City as well. So I'm with you on that one.
Okay.
With
But it was no, but it no, it wasn't it wasn't that actually. No, okay. So me and my friends are really loving this ice cream truck that is going around Sarasota in the water in Florida. Yes, okay, so it's a boat. Yes, it is a boat. But it's an ice cream truck on a boat. I love
Why has someone not thought of this before?
I know.
I I honestly, who doesn't love an ice cream?
Yeah, the Potomac.
You know, why that's true, maybe we could get it down the Potomac.
Right now I know why people haven't done this before. How did kids get to it? The whole thing.
The boats, they come to boats. They come to boats that are already in the water. So uh you're right.
Yeah. Where am I gonna get a boat?
That's the most expensive idea.
Thanks very much.
No, I like the idea. Like maybe my kid being like ice cream and the boat just like going past and me being like, I don't know, sorry.
I know that's my reaction. It's like, I used to love ice cream truckets as a child, but now as a parent, you're like, oh no, cover their hair so.
Okay, do you have a sports one or not?
I have a sports.
Do it.
joining you in the World Cup joy. I mean like as as as somebody who is not a huge soccer fan but who really commits every two years when the World Cup comes around. Um it's so much fun and watching the American men win four to one a couple days ago over Paraguay. That was just really exciting and it took me back'cause I really remember
watching the nineteen ninety nine women oh yeah Brandy Chastain like those are the those were my heroes at the time. I stayed playing soccer long after I never should have been playing soccer.
Yeah, she even from skills.
It was terrible, but it was fun because you could imagine yourself in those places and spaces and dream about being on those big stages. So it's really fun to get to watch a new generation of of young people, my boys included, getting to get into these games.
I forget it doesn't have that sort of generational impact, any kind of big sports moment, whether it's the Olympics or something like this. Because I remember that 1999.
And also you're Caroline and stuff talking about sports. You guys just won the Stanley Cup. Congratulations.
True.
know about hockey or you gonna call this like stick sport or something?
I I I'm gonna I'm gonna admit that I knew that they won last in two thousand and six, which is a b you know, it's it's it's a notable thing that they done but no, I I can't say I know much about that.
I mean start with heated rivalry, I did. Um, okay you guys, thank you for being with us today. We've got a lot of news kicking off the week, especially with this memorandum between the US and Iran. What are the details? We've got the headlines for you next. I'm Audi Cornish.
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