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Today's program delves into contentious political issues, starting with the New York primaries and Mayor Mamdani's Democratic Socialist movement, and then examining upcoming Supreme Court rulings on topics like birthright citizenship and transgender athletes. Discussions also cover the Federal Reserve's economic strategy and mass firings within the intelligence community. A significant portion highlights the deep divisions within both Democratic and Republican parties over the Israel-Palestine conflict, amplified by AIPAC's role and Tucker Carlson's dramatic break from the GOP.

Episode description

It's primary day in New York. Can more Democratic Socialists ride the Mayor Mamdani wave? ... Anticipation builds to today's Supreme Court decisions. Will justices go against the president in cases that could help define his power? ... Tucker Carlson says he's "out" of the Republican party. Will he take MAGA with him? 

 

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Intro / Opening

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New York Primaries: Mamdani's Movement

C

Today in the group chat, it's primary day in New York. Can more Democratic Socialists ride Mayor Mamdani's wave?

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When does the race for twenty twenty eight begin?

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It starts now!

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Anticipation builds to today's Supreme Court decisions will justices go against the president in cases that could help define his power. And so-called deep state firings have started at a top US intelligence agency. What else could the president's handpicked temporary director do? And Tucker Carlson says he's out. Will he take MAGA with him?

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I would not support the Republican Party. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party.

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Think of the state of the Democratic Party. This slate here today is our answer. The Democratic Party must change.

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Saran Mamdani putting his power to the test. Can his team of Democratic Socialists win big in New York? Good morning, everybody. I'm Audie Cornish, and right now polls are open in New York and the influence of New York City's mayor tested just. Six months into his tenure. He's backed candidates in three House races. Two are going up against Democratic incumbents, and they are hoping to ride the wave of Democratic socialists who have been winning big races across the country.

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I'm a longtime progressive, a working families party member. But yes, if by democratic socialist do you mean do I want Medicare for all? Do I want to make sure that folks can organize unions? Do I want to make sure we're getting to Universal childcare and investing a lot more in housing everyone can afford, yes.

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I am someone who has felt deeply abandoned by the establishment politics that far too often see my community as merely a statistic.

C

Yeah. All right, so today in the group chat Tamara Keats, senior political correspondent at NPR. Chuck Rocha, Democratic strategist and former senior advisor to Bernie Sanders presidential campaigns, and Ashley Davis, former White House official under President George W. Bush. Love seeing you guys. Thank you so much for being here.

Um so Tam when I I wanna start with you because Mom Donnie's story is a story that I think a lot of these folks would like to emulate. They're not handpicked by the party, yet somehow they rise via the par you know, the internet and the power of their ideas. And he is trying to have like uh tailwinds. So do we know if he does?

F

I think we we will know very soon whether he does. He certain certainly some of these candidates look to be polling pretty well in their races. I don't know that we can extrapolate about the National Democratic Party from what happens in New York City.

C

No, I mean Democratic Socialists. Which city by city, I mean even here in DC, we've been talking about that. I was noticing in was that Landerick who we just played earlier? Notice how the first thing out of his mouth in that answer is. If by democratic socialist you mean, and I hear this over and over again, people trying to define it for themselves, even as actual democratic socialists are out there, defining it pretty loudly.

G

I would go a step further and say that it's already seen in political world you don't beat incumbents. You don't go against the machine. In city politics, New York City, to your point already, in Washington D C just last week when three Democratic Socialists overcame the odds and like

C

Seattle.

G

But that's much different than every other battleground district in America. There's about thirty-four battleground districts and none of those are in the heart of any city where Democratic Social and that's what the party is worried about. The Democratic Socialist message of being for the people, by the people, working class, pull yourself up, that's all good. But in these marginal seats, they'll say everybody's a Democratic Socialist. All of Ashley's friends will be running ads tomorrow when.

Program Previews and News Briefs

C

I know you're trying to divorce it. Here, I want to play for you. This is Attorney General. Miss James. No, no, hold on one second.'Cause this is gonna be the difficult thing as a consultant. Now, how do you do this when there are people who are successfully running behind this flag. Um so basically race was uh Vox was calling this race a splitting of Mamdani's coalition.

That it uh pitted progressives against democratic socialists. And then Letitia James was asked about this split. Uh she's a former attorney general. Here's what she had to say.

T

What we are witnessing here at this moment is the tension. Dr. King talked about uh creative tension at being a catalyst for a social for social justice. And clearly given DSA DSA and quote unquote progressive Democrats We are moving forward and we are broadening the tent of the Democratic Party. We are moving forward, broadening the tent, focusing on women, people of color, immigrants, working people, and the labor movement. And that's why that's what you are witnessing now.

given the split between a mayor who I've supported and who is a friend of mine who I respect

C

And I should say current attorney general. But ha I wanted to ask you how you hear her describing this split, which I think Bush era Republicans may be familiar with, right? When the party starts to pull away from you.

B

Well right. I mean I think this whole movement is two things. One it's the Tea Party of the Republicans back in the day, or maybe even MAGA in some way. But also I think it's really anti establishment, which most people in the country, whether you are Republicans or Democrats, are

a hundred percent running against the status quo because no one's happy with it. But what what's really gonna show me for the mayor, because I think that these he has a really good chance of winning these three races today, at least two of them, but Can they win in a general? And I think that's the question. Um I think we'll see. Some will, some won't.

C

Let me just play one last thing. This is the mayor. Mayor Zaran Mamdani. Um he was just speaking from uh the mayor's office on Monday.

Voter Rules and Kennedy Center

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I was quoting Gramsci who said that the old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters. I used the term to describe all those who are preventing the birth of a new world. solely APAC, but frankly super PACs at large who are spending millions of dollars in deceptive and misleading ads that are blanketing airwaves

C

I I wanted to add this one last thing. We're gonna talk about it more in the program, but this conversation around AIPAC and how it is dividing the Democratic Party and to some extent even Republicans. I remember Tom Massey's loss. in Kentucky, he vehemently criticized AIPAC after.

F

Yeah, and AIPAC has in the last several years become a real boogeyman in races. This obviously has a lot to do with politics involving Israel and a real

Economic Policy and Inflation Outlook

C

By October seventh and all that has fallen.

F

Everything that has followed and it has created a political rift both in the Democratic Party and in the Republican Party and this backlash um uh you know against Israel which

C

Yeah.

F

A a change.

C

Yeah. And that thread runs through Tucker Carlson's uh exit.

F

Runs all the time. Carlson's.

C

We're gonna talk more about that on the program today. We've got a lot to handle. I do wanna bring up one other thing uh coming up on CNN this morning. There's actually a new clue in the Nancy Guthrie case. What it could say about her disappearance. Plus, what's behind the tarp outside the Kennedy Center?

New images showing what we now know is not there. And we're remembering the man with the golden ears who launched the careers of icons, including Whitney Houston and Bruce Springsteen, legendary music producer. Clive Davis has died at the age of 94. Here he is in 2024 talking about his legacy.

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I'm CNN Tech Reporter Claire Duffy. This week on the podcast Terms of Service. Franklin Schneider, thanks for doing this.

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My pleasure.

J

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Oh, it's just become so widespread. I mean the problem is you can't tell a lot of it is AI unless you look very, very, very closely. I've read industry reports that suggest at least fifty percent of all listing images have And it might be as high as 70, 75%.

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It is now 12 minutes past the hour. This is your morning roundup. Law enforcement sources telling CNN a note connected to the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie claims that she died. And that note was sent to media outlets back in February. We're told the kidnappers wrote it, uh wrote that she died shortly after she was taken and that they did not mean to kill her. Now this note followed one prior which demanded ransom. Investigators believe these notes are legitimate.

And a major ruling on voting in privacy. The Trump administration blocked from using Social Security and immigration data. to scrub voter rolls. A federal judge says the system relied on inaccurate information and risks wrongly removing eligible voters. Now this ruling halted a key part of the president of the president's election overhaul plan. And we're getting a new look at what's behind the tarp at the Kennedy Center. These images obtained by CNN show President Trump's name.

is no longer on the building. Workers began removing Trump's name from an exterior wall ten days ago, complying with a judge's ruling that the institution could only be named for John F. Kennedy as a living memorial to the late president. Ashley I feel like you have some goss here. You're involved with the National Symphony.

B

Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's really important'cause the Kennedy Center, also the judge said the Kennedy Center will remain open for now as well.

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C

Instead of shutting down for a big uh Trump induced renovation.

B

Exactly. But the NSO is in to stay, and they are either going to do it with the symphony or some other way if there's not going to be a budget to support them. But 100% these musicians have stayed with the NSO from the beginning and they are And we have a season to announce as soon as we can. National Symphony Orchestra.

G

I don't know what the NS.

C

Take you to a concert. I'm gonna take you to a concert. Shout out to the National Symphony Orchestra. Glad you guys stuck with it. Looking forward to the new season. I want to talk about this after the break. Does a quieter Fed equal a louder market? How Kevin Worsh's gamble might impact your money. Plus, the light at the end of the tunnel is here for Americans exposed on that antivirus stricken cruise ship.

SCOTUS: Hot-Button Social Issues

In the meantime, a live look in Houston. The World Cup play will continue there with a match featuring Portugal versus Uzbekistan.

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I don't share the view that was expressed a few generations ago that Federal Reserve chairmen show up at a podium like this and say, you gotta choose. And uh you're gonna have to decide whether you're willing to tolerate higher inflation to put more people at work.

C

Newly sworn in Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh leaving interest rates steady for now. But concerning economic data since the start of the war with Iran could mean he'll have to change his mind. So let me give you an example. Inflation rose half a percent from April to May. That means it's now around 4.2%.

Consumer confidence dipping among Americans. So joining me now, Courtney Brown. She's the senior economics reporter at Axios. Welcome back. Thanks so much. So I'm starting with the uh inflation. Just to give a people sense, because that's always the boogeyman. Is inflation high, is inflation low, and this is where monetary policy comes into play. What is our sense now that Warsh is in the job of how he thinks about these things?

K

Do you wanna hear something crazy?

C

Yes. About Fed policy, Courtney, yes. Clue. Why?

K

Because he is not so Warsha's big audition was last week, first Fed policy meeting. Um, we get the closely parsed policy statement. It is a hundred and thirty words. more than a third of the length in the Powell era just months before. He wants to say less. He wants to guide markets less. What we know is that he said that inflation or the Fed will accomplish price stability. A wonky way of saying they will get inflation back to two percent.

A

As you said.

K

So far from two percent right now.

C

Yeah, can I well let's look at the chart. She was making fun of me trying to read my own charts here for business. I like that. Consumer price index. Okay, what are we looking at in this chart right now?

K

So what we've seen is inflation shooting right up since the

C

Oh see I did the same thing guys. That's confidence. Gimme consumer price.

K

But that's an important

C

Well, it is why.

K

Stories are connected. Okay, good. Because inflation is shooting up, consumers feel really crappy about the economy right now. We all know this. not a new story. Um it is a it is partially because of inflation, but it's also because of price levels. Prices have just been really high and have not come down. So I think what the Fed has to grapple with here is how do you bring inflation down without wrecking the economy? Financial markets have decided that

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C

That the Fed

K

That's crazy.

C

Wall Street Journal saying Fed could raise uh could raise it three times this year. Yeah. Pointing to uh everyone on Wall Street of the forecast from Bank of America.

K

Everyone on Wall Street is revising their expectations for rate hikes this year when just a few months ago they were expecting rate cuts. But we don't actually know. Kevin Walsh didn't say that. He doesn't want to guide markets in the way that traditional Fed chairmen have. Um, he wants to go back to the Greenspan era, the late Alan Greenspan who died.

C

yesterday. Let's take a beat on that because there's some familiar language here. Um when uh the the late Alan Greenspan who who died um this week, when he took over the Fed from Paul Volcker, you had Gulf wars fueling Spikes in prices, right? So something going on in the Middle East, you had high inflation, and you had real worries about that and prices. So some of this feels a beat familiar for us in this moment under Trump's term.

Um what did Greenspan do that's part of his legacy, why people still think of him with with such reverence?

K

The celebrity Fed chairman of our era, really. Um, there's one more parallel to this moment that's quite spooky. Um, Alan Greenspan during his term. He presided or he led the Fed over a period where there was huge technological change. The internet boom of the ninety

C

Oh yeah, and it's bubble. Yeah.

K

Sound like AI a little bit right now, maybe. Um so I think Alan Greenspan is having such a moment right now. It is so Interesting to me that he died at the at the moment where his legacy is kind of front and center among Trump economic officials. You hear them shouting out Alan Greenspan because of what he did. He he believed that

Uh, then the internet boom was going to usher in this huge era of productivity and it would not be inflationary. And we've heard the White House explicitly say that they think the Fed can do the very same thing in this moment. Keep interest rates low, not cut off this economic boom that we're having. Right. But the problem is exactly what you say.

inflation issue. It's really hard for the Fed not to raise interest rates in the face of inflation that is soaring now but was already sticky before the war. So they have a problem.

C

Uh y one other thing I wanna read from Alan Greenspan'cause I think it's relevant here. In nineteen ninety four he said we will be at price stability when households and businesses need not factor expectations of changes in the average level of prices into their decisions. I'm going to translate and say he cared about our prices, about how households were able to afford their economy.

Courtney, thank you so much. Love having you. I'm gonna come up with more excuses to cover Fed policy just to soak in your enthusiasm. We're gonna talk about the issues from transgender athletes to birthright citizenship before the Supreme Court. We could get some opinions later today, before its summer recess. Plus, mass firings underway at the nation's top Intel office and lawmakers warn of serious risks with each lost job.

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AIPAC and Israel-Palestine Divide

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Good morning everybody. I'm Audi Cornish. Thank you for joining me on CNN this morning. It is half past the hour, and here's what's happening right now. Secretary of State Marco Rubio heads to the Middle East. He is the first White House official to do so after the signing of the U.S. US Iran Memorandum of Understanding. Rubia will be in the region discussing that deal, along with quote regional priorities, including the Strait of Hormuz.

And quarantine finally over for the last eight American passengers exposed to hantivirus who were staying at a Nebraska facility. Facility. Now they were exposed to that virus on the cruise ship early last month. The passengers stayed in the quarantine unit for 42 days. And Messi makes history. Again, he scored two goals in Argentina's win over Austria. officially earning him the most goals scored in World Cup history. 18.

E

Messi is a beast. Messi came to get the record of most goals in the World Cup and he got it. He got caught down.

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But Messi will be fighting to keep the record France on the right on his heels with 16 all-time goals.

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Thank you.

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And this morning the Supreme Court expected to release some opinions for its outstanding docket. So you've got cases still left outstanding. Those include birthright citizenship. Also presidential firing authority and transgender athletes. These are all opinions the Trump administration has invested interest in, and Trump has already lashed out against the Supreme Court over decisions.

relating to say his tariff policy. So could these opinions further erode the relationship between the executive and judiciary? The group chat is back. The big one here I want to mention is birthright citizenship. This could really be something that would annoy Trump. Um and honestly it's not looking that good because it's one of those things where it's kind of in the constitution. What are you thinking about um how he's feeling?

F

It was one of his day one priorities in his second term. It's something that he campaigned on. It's also something that legal experts have been extremely dubious about the entire time. And I do think that We could expect him, if it goes against him, to be very unhappy and not to be quiet about that because he is never quiet when he is unhappy. Um and you saw that with the tariff ruling and you know, like the relationship between I mean like even talking about it as a relationship anymore.

C

Out of all the everything on the list, I feel like the transgender athlete uh case is the one that becomes a talking point in elections, right? In this case it's two students challenging state laws, banning participation in g their participation in girls' sports, arguing that it violates Title IX.

Um whereas like the abortion ruling so many years ago became this like pivotal thing for Democrats. Out of everything here, mail-in ballots, birthright citizenship, it feels like you're gonna see ads about a transgender athlete ruling.

B

It only becomes an issue if they say that you can have the transgender athletes in the sports. I think that if they say no, you can't, I don't know. Are Democrats gonna defend that?

G

I think that you're already seeing uh Republicans use transgender whether or not the Supreme Court does this or not. You're gonna see two types of ads and we're making hundreds of ads right now in these congressional seats. And you have Democrats talking about cost of living and you have Republicans talking about trans athletes or somebody having low T. That's gonna be the argument of we're seeing what the

Tucker Carlson and Shifting GOP

C

The low T testosterone conversation. Why is it in politics? David for your supplements.

B

They're talking about

C

Yes!

G

As a boy who takes a lot of protein, this is what they're doing.

C

Yeah.

G

People are sick and tired right now. They're sick and tired of these prices. I just went home to see my mama this weekend for her 74th birthday, and only anything could say is that folks can't.

C

The argument that Democrats too are not focusing on the right things because they are focused on their affinity, community, and smart people lacking not even. No, no, what I'm saying is that's okay. Don't ads generate focus? You they're determining where to look. And I think Republicans are gonna say, don't look over here where they're talking about affordability, look over here.

B

That's what they're running with against Tel Rico with your buddy on is they're gonna go b over

G

Can't talk about what Audio just said, which is the cost of things.

B

You can't talk about that. Some of those ads are effective, I'm sorry to say.

C

Uh one other thing I want to add is there is this idea, a Senate committee advancing a bipartisan bill to allow oral arguments to be televised. uh saying that this would be good for transparency, the Washington Post editorial board joining them um or are sorry, the Washington Post editorial board complaining that this will uh contribute to uh grandstanding. You're laughing. I mean I have to admit I'm good with audio.

F

Yeah, I'm not Ezra.

C

Audio people.

F

Very happy already. Um, I I don't know that you can grandstand in the Supreme Court because I don't think the justices will stand for that. They are asking deep dive questions about very specific.

C

But I think what they can what they say can be clipped. And used against people in election slop. Like I don't think people are gonna get use those same televised clips to make them

G

We'll use them. We'll use an audio edit, overlay pictures all day long in a TV edit.

B

Yeah.

C

Great. I wanna turn to something else that's just a little bit more important, especially since we're gonna have those rulings later today. There is a source telling C N.

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that uh the so called quote deep state firings have begun at the office of the director of national intelligence. Here's why we're watching this. President Trump's new acting spy chief, Bill Poultey, He's actually in charge already, right? Not this hasn't been confirmed or anything like that. He's interim. And Democrats are raising concerns.

D

Bill Poulte is somebody who has zero, zero experience when it comes to national security and intelligence matters. His sort of defining mission in the Trump administration has been as a political hitman for Donald Trump to go after his political adversaries. And now this is the guy who's going to be firing people with experience and expertise. when it comes to our national security intelligence matters. So what could go wrong?

C

Okay, so here's the thing. I'm not one for the three D chess argument, but this is the person Trump wants, Bill Poulti, who comes from housing policy. That's not the person

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That

C

Anyone in the Senate seems to want to be a little bit more than a little bit

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Republic.

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Applicant.

C

Including Republicans. Let's play an example. Lindsey Graham this Sunday on CBS complaining that the president wasn't letting Jay Clayton, the person they ac actually feel like has the votes, testify.

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And I would urge President Trump to let Clayton testify and if we uh nominate Clayton and get him affirmed as the new D and I, we don't want FISA to go dark. There's too many threats to our country for seven oh two to go down. Anybody who owns the shutting down of 702 uh under FISA will own a future attack against the United States.

C

So there is this PISA surveillance law that a allows the government to um i Go after intelligence targets abroad and inadvertently maybe capture some US information. The point is. His need to have Polte looks like it's starting to hold up other aspects of the administration's agenda.

F

It is. Uh but President Trump has been very focused for a very long time about Retribution, whatever you want to call it. He feels like the intelligence community went after him in 2016. Russia, Russia, Russia. He feels like his first impeachment was the result of the intelligence community, and Bill Poulti is there to do a job.

C

I think what's shady to me is that.

F

To get rid of it.

C

Of course, but he's interim. Like he has Clayton right there. He could put someone forth that Republicans are willing to give him the votes for. And instead, just to give the reviews here, here is what some of these Republicans have been saying over the last couple of weeks when Polte's name was raised.

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I think he's the worst form of sycophant and advisor to the president that is gonna hurt the president's legacy and

G

I see no no evidence of any qualifications for that job.

E

I don't know Jay Clayton, um, but I was quite certain the acting guy wasn't gonna cut it. Um, shall we say Pulti.

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was always worried me about. and he doesn't have a real deep

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Back.

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program in uh in in antenna.

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One day, one day, sir.

G

I have no observations on the matter.

C

I'm gonna start using that one actually.

B

Uh

C

No, keep it in mind.

B

after he said that. Did you see that?

C

The the person they're describing is now already firing people.

B

Well I'm okay with um actually like taking everything else out of it. There's so many things here. First of all, I I'm hoping the Clayton issue gets solved tomorrow when the president goes up and talks to Senate Republicans because I actually think that is part of a broader issue.

Poulty is in there for one thing as everyone said, which is to get rid of a lot of these people. I was around when we created this agency, the DNI. I think that there's um a lot of issues with it and there's a lot of fat, but there's also a lot of leak. The problem is is Bill's a little bit not a little bit. Bill is um a lightning rod because he doesn't have any internet he doesn't have any background in security

C

the only reason it's a lightning rod actually.

B

No, he's also a lightning rod just because of all of his policies. I mean he he actually did a lot of um cage rattling within the in the West Wing. So there is there's not a big there's not a he has a lot of enemies and a lot of allies.

G

Yeah.

B

That was a very bad son.

F

And he just threatened to.

G

All the time at the White House.

B

Just I just want to say something like Yeah, it is true. There is something that's really important. The the DNI agency is the most leaked agency in the intelligence world. There needs to be changes there. It's just the controversy is around the person that's doing it.

C

Should a person who doesn't have the job yet is not confirmed by the Senate be firing people already? That seems like it opens the door for the other.

B

I don't care who.

C

But we don't know why. That's the

B

There's men major investigations going on that are classified of who's leaking. So yes, I think that if Those people should be fighting.

C

Yeah.

B

If they're leaky nest.

G

He wants this. Trump wants pulti firing everybody and then he wants to say, okay, we got rid of that bad guy, we'll bring Clayton in. Everybody likes this Clayton guy because they put up the worst of worst of somebody that's totally not qualified to do this job.

C

But like I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.

B

I mean that's like the

C

Oh but everyone's got to be a good thing. Are you fired without cause?

B

I'm making my prediction. I think Clayton's confirmed in July.

C

I think he's you're both right. He's confirmed but after a

B

No, in July. I think she gets confirmed in July.

C

We go. Okay, you guys, there's one more. I want to talk about this. This is actually really interesting. Next on CNN this morning, Tucker Carlson claiming he is out of the Republican Party. This is years after defending Trump. uh to the MAGA movement, so we're wondering where he's gonna take his support next and then later on CNN, a White House plot grows. There are new arrests revealing drones, explosives, and a widening network connected with the alleged plot. to attack the UFC event.

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So the Democratic Party, as we talked about, continues to struggle with its messaging on Israel in the wake of the twenty four election. Today, as voters in New York head to the polls, a pro-Israeli lobbying group highlights a rift in the party. APAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee. It's donated nearly$42 million to campaigns this year alone and several high-profile Democrats.

Corey Booker, Gavin Newsome, AOC say they refuse to accept APAC funds. In New York, Mayor Zaron Mamdani also calling out candidates who do not take that money. Uh candidates who do take that money.

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The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monster. These monsters take many forms today. In AIPAC, for whom the only thing more frightening than democracy being allowed to run its course is an end to genocide and Netanyahu's wars. They move millions in dark money to accomplish a single goal. To preserve their power so that they can turn us against one another, instead of our leaders turning towards the moral change we all know to be necessary.

C

Okay, he was specifically pointing to Congressman Adriano Espiat, who is running against one of Mamdani's backed candidates. Now according to the Federal Election Commission, AIPAC made two donations last month totaling uh around six hundred thousand dollars. Ted Deutsch, uh the CEO of the American Jewish Committee, called Mamdani's comments, quote, outrageous and dangerous. And the impact of your words extend far beyond politics. Andani has doubled down.

Q

I want to be very clear. We're talking about a status quo where children are being killed on a daily basis. And when I am speaking about AIPAC, I'm speaking about an organization that has been supportive of the status quo, that has fought any attempt

to actually deliver safety to people not just in Palestine, but frankly through much of the region. And It is a status quo for immorality, it is one that I will not accept, and I think that it is important that when we ask ourselves how such death and destruction is happening overseas, we also name those who allow it to take place.

C

Joining me now Errol Lewis, political anchor with Spectrum News. Um Errol, uh in a minute I want to play for you uh rep Dan Goldman, who had kind of an altercation with a coffee shopper a around this issue of anti-Semitism. But first can you talk about how this APAC conversation, why it's playing such a big role in these essentially small city races?

N

Yeah. Uh good morning audio. The the uh issue of uh APAC is really shorthand for uh opposing Israel's policies in Gaza and elsewhere in the region. And so they've done what uh politicians do with slogans. They've made it so that uh it basically ends the conversation just to say, Hey, you took money from APAC. Uh and then you can't say much more uh uh about it. And that's you know, this is this is what happens in the middle of a heated campaign.

Uh it's a little unusual because just as the mayor talks about this and has made it really central to a lot of his politics and a lot of the politics of these congressional races, there are a ton of other issues. I mean, we're always talking about affordability. Uh and somehow this issue has taken what some would call an outsized level of influence when it comes to all of these local races.

C

Is it also because culturally what's happened on the streets even since Mamdani's election, right? Uh since October seventh, but then since Mamdani's election itself, when you had people saying, Oh, we're gonna leave the city if he wins, right? Uh raising over these concerns. Um in particular I want to flag for you something that happened downtown, um, uh I think it was Brooklyn, I'm not sure. And you've got this guy, Congressman Goldman.

and he's dealing with a bit of a firestorm. He was visiting a coffee shop there and after he visited They posted that he was banned over his support for Israel. And they wrote, We see that you stopped by our shop for coffee. Do you see how it doesn't taste like genocide juice? Or are you still having a hard time telling the difference?

They go on to say we don't serve racists, fascists, homophobes, genocide enablers, or anyone in between. Too bad we didn't recognize you right away. So Goldman responded, uh, and here's what he had to say.

P

And I think it's really dangerous when people start conflating the actions of the Israeli government with American.

C

Jew.

P

Who have absolutely nothing to do with what is going on in Israel and the rise in anti-Semitism because of what is happening in the Middle East here in the United States. Is really dangerous and it is escalating significantly.

C

Errol, I don't know if you had heard about this incident, but what do you make of how he is, you know, articulating this?

N

Yeah. Uh i I did hear about the incident. It's not far from where I'm sitting right now, in fact in Brooklyn. Um And and and very disturbing. Very disturbing. There's this was um he went in uh because he needed to use the bathroom. He was with a seven year old daughter while he was out campaigning and they were nice enough to let him do it and he bought a cup of coffee.

And then after the fact they pu published this photo and that statement and that kind of a thing. Listen, the issues in the Middle East. are so complicated. Uh issues like genocide, uh fascism, you know, these these buzzwords that some of these activists like to throw around uh with such abandon.

uh are the opposite of trying to find some kind of a path forward and some kind of a civil discourse, which is hopefully what you'll have, including during a political campaign of this kind. Um it's a real really a lost opportunity. But make no mistake about it, this is a group of activists who have declared war on the mainstream Democratic Party. And um they are using these buzzwords, they are using these issues, that kind of um rough style where they try and target people and personalize it.

is is what they're trying to bring to politics. And they say that this is going to be the path forward. We'll see later today, tonight, whether or not uh New York voters are gonna go for that.

C

That's Errol Lewis. As always, totally appreciate your time. Thank you. Um so we've been talking about this issue whether this could affect the fate of these politicians in New York. Um and it appears Israel sealed the fate of Tucker Carlson as well. For months Republicans have been painting him as anti Semitic.

Z

And I will say on the right, I have seen more anti-semitism in the last eighteen months on the right. It is being spread. By loud voices. The most consequential of whom It's Tucker Carlson. I believe Tucker Carlson is the single most dangerous demagogue in this country.

C

Carlson says he is done with the Republican Party. He says it puts the interests of Israel above those of its own citizens.

R

I would not support the Republican Party. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party. I'm not gonna support the Democratic Party. I don't know what I'm gonna do. But at this point, you know, how could you support, how could I or any American voter support a political party that's not loyal to the United States?

C

Uh group chat is back. Um Tam, we're going two ends of the spectrum here, right?

F

And then it meets up at the top.

C

Hor horseshoe politics. I think what's interesting is that Tucker has been at odds with the White House for many months. Almost every time there's a foreign intervention, but this one in particular seems to have pushed him over the edge in terms of how he speaks publicly.

F

I think that what is happening here with Tucker Carlson, with Ted Cruz, is various parts of what has been the Republican coalition. figuring out what happens in a potential post Trump reality and positioning themselves and there are flashpoints. Israel is going to be a flash point. It didn't used to be. Republicans were all very pro Israel. That's not the case anymore. Um and I think you're gonna see it over abortion and other issues as well.

C

Yeah. Marjorie Taylor Green tweeting Tucker's not the only one who's done supporting the Republican Party. This is her, I think, on X. There's a lot of us that are absolutely fed up and will not support a party that betrays its voters and country. That doesn't mean we're turning into Democrats either. But we are done with the America last Republican Party.

G

There's a something going on here. It's not just this issue. If you think about this issue You think about the war, you think about the Epstein files, you have all of these activists on the right who voted for Donald Trump because of those three things, and Tucker Carlson, major maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene, are trying to tap into that. The old political consultant here thinks it has a lot to do with 2028.

C

Yeah, twenty twenty eight and also where the public sentiment is. I mean when I was went to look at the Pew research polls, I was trying to figure out, okay, what are the views of Israel right now based on the polling? And in 2022, Republicans were at 27% with an unfavorable view of Israel. Now they're at 41, which means it's almost doubled. And meanwhile, Democrats, of course, we know in 2022, 53%.

Now they're at eighty percent. So a Mamdani or a Tucker, they're speaking to the people who moved in this shift from twenty twenty two to now.

B

Israel is what they're fighting right now, but I think it's very important to say they're against any sort of foreign conflict. I I don't think it's just Israel. I think it would be if we were obviously no one on the Republican side wanted us to be in Ukraine either. So I think that's But I agree with Chuck in regards to the

C

He's not leaving over Venezuela. Like it feels as if

B

We're not at war. something very quick. We don't have a lot of troops on the ground, you know, we're not g and anyway, I think that's a little bit different, but I get your point. I also think that Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker are trying to figure out a path in regards to twenty twenty eight. I think they're both testing the grounds of running.

But also one of the questions I have really for you is there are four or five potential Jewish candidates on the Democrat side that would run in twenty twenty eight, one of them my dear friend Josh Shapiro. How does that happen? I mean they're like going trying the Dems are trying to go left of the left of the left of Israel.

G

This has relevance in Democratic and primaries for both parties in 2028. When you have multiple people running, more than four or five, you can win the nomination with thirty percent. Keep in mind you just need that thirty percent, and Tucker Carlson knows that.

C

Okay. Okay. Well let's talk about what else is it our group chat. Uh starting with you, Ashley.

B

I'm talking about the power pivot. Okay, I just wanna talk about how great it is to watch all of these people visiting from Europe or around the world for the soccer.

C

World Cup.

B

But also loving America. I mean they're like really loving our food. I have heard that a lot of people are gaining some weight. So we may need to give them some adjustments.

C

But thank you, Ashley.

B

Oh yeah, no people are gaining lots of weight. You know, if you're in mid the mid west, you're eating a lot of gravy.

F

Just wait till you see the until they get to Costco.

C

Oh that's a whole other thing.

B

It is nice. It's been a lot of compliments.

G

So today I'm really honored. I get to host the first annual Latino Vote Summit. We're bringing Republican, Independent, and Democrat Latinos to the press club today where we're gonna talk about the Latino agenda. If you're a Republican holding the Republican Party. uh accountable if you're a Democrat holding but what is it for the community? So I'm really happy that we're coming together.

C

twenty twenty four revealed some big rips.

G

The Latino vote has probably been the one electorate that swung right, swung left, and now they're in the middle looking for a home and I'm honored to be hosting this with my Latino vote podcast co-host, Mike Madrid.

C

Very nice, very nice. Shout out to the pod. Okay, Tamra for you?

F

ご視聴ありがとうございました

G

Bye. Bye.

F

Yes, what I cannot let go of is this reflecting pool, the ongoing battle, the I am not hunting for the bigger.

C

It's Bill Poulty hunting for vandals.

F

Yeah. part of the Intel job, who knows, could be part of the remit. But you know, finding out what happened. Epoxy, it's tough. So is keeping a pool clean.

C

Oh really? Do you have a problem with this?

F

I d no longer have a pool.

B

What happened to it?

C

You have to clean a pool, it's annoying.

B

I know and you didn't is that why you got rid of it? Uh was it like an above bound?

F

It was it was just a lot of work.

C

Did it have algae?

F

Uh yes, it had all kinds of problems.

C

Did you catch who did it? Um okay. Well thank you guys so much for talking with me today. We found that we uncovered a lot of very serious news that we need to follow up. We have not found that out yet.

G

That's what I'm wearing.

C

We'll have an intelligence agent. See, this is how you're getting me in trouble. Um, everybody else, especially those of you in New York, good luck today. Polls are open. Go out and vote. We've got plenty of news for you coming up, as we said, about the reflecting pool, about the state of the Iran talks. Rubio heading to the Middle East. East, those headlines are next. I'm Audie Cornish and thank you for waking up with me.

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