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Platner Will Take On Collins in November

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Summary

This episode delves into various political and economic hotspots, starting with the contentious Maine Senate race between Graham Platner and Susan Collins, highlighting voter sentiment and campaign strategies. It also covers escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran, updates on the Jeffrey Epstein investigation involving Bill Gates, and the high-stakes California governor's race. A significant segment examines the booming AI industry, questioning whether it's an economic bubble due to massive valuations and public pushback. Finally, the podcast touches on the "World Cup of Chaos" due to immigration and ticket issues, and the bizarre claims of Colorado governor candidate Victor Marx, alongside Nancy Mace's primary defeat in South Carolina.

Episode description

Democrats in Maine vote to stick with Graham Platner. Could that cost the party a shot at flipping the Senate this fall? ... Missiles light up the sky in the Middle East again. Will the strained ceasefire last long enough for the US to deliver that long- promised deal with Iran ... Bill Gates will testify behind closed doors today. What will he tell lawmakers about his links to Jeffrey Epstein? 

 

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Transcript

Intro / Opening

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Maine Senate Race Kicks Off

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Today in the group chat, Democrats in Maine vote to stick with Graham Pladner. Could that cost the party a shot at flipping the Senate this fall?

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If the choice on the ballot is between that and a senator who's voted to take health care away from millions of Americans, that's the situation that we have to weigh.

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Missiles light up the sky in the Middle East again. Will the strained ceasefire last long enough for the US to deliver that long-promised deal with Iran? And big day for the Epstein Files. What will Bill Gates tell lawmakers about his links to the late convicted sex offender?

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Do you think that you've killed people as an adult?

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Does it matter?

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This is a candidate who also claims he killed someone as a child meet the front runner in the Republican race for governor of Colorado. And it's the$3.5 trillion question on Wall Street. Has the AI boom gotten ahead of itself?

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OpenAI and Anthropic plan to have IPOs at release before the end of this year, signaling to me that the AI bubble is about to pop.

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To any of those who feel let down or disappointed or disillusioned, it is my job to earn your trust, faith, and support. And I will spend every day of this campaign, and if I have the privilege.

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Every day.

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United States Senate doing exactly that.

Platner's Challenge to Collins

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Graham Plattner punches his ticket, but now he's got to convince voters to choose him over a five-term senator. Good morning everybody. I'm Audie Cornish. Here is where we begin that big statement out of Maine. Democrat Graham Plattiner, despite all the scandals, earned about three-fourths of primary voters' support over Governor Janet Mills. Moments after clinching the nomination, he turned his attention to his new opponent, Republican Senator Susan Collins.

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Susan Collins may have started May have started her career decades ago in Washington with good intentions, but she has become Just as spineless and corrupt as the establishment she now serves. If you are an independent voice, why do you vote with Donald Trump ninety five percent of the time?

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Platiner has a lot of work to do to get Mills voters on his side.

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I couldn't honestly support Platiner even though some of the things that he says are really good.

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I don't think he's ready to be a senator. I'm leaning towards Collins unless the guy shows something else. But I I just um Ele não está ainda.

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And so what will you do in November if it's Platiner versus Collins?

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That's a really good question. I'm a Democrat but I voted for Susan Collins several times because I think that she does care about the state of Maine, but it's gonna be a real problem for me in November.

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So today in the group chat, Mike Leon, host of the Can We Please Talk podcast, Jared Stepman, columnist with the Daily Signal, and Max Rose, former Democratic congressman.

Analyzing the Maine Senate Race

from New York and Max I'm actually gonna start with you because you're with Vote Fets, which means you guys had a dog in the fight in this race. You guys have been giving a lot of money across the country. And what is it Let me just show what de what's at stake here. Democrats' chances of flipping the main Senate seat.

It was pretty good. Maybe this has jeopardized it. We're gonna show people d uh a chart while you're talking so you can see um what's at stake. Is this race as close as you all hoped it would be? Now that Graham has struggled with these scandals. With a five-term senator, it's not. A lot of times it can be a blowout, right? Like what how do you look at what he needs to accomplish?

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I think that we're we're saying the same thing in in essence, right? Susan Collins is tough to beat. What I would say about the Susan Collins race is that we've seen in the past is you're not gonna win this seat by uh you know electing a Susan Collins light or putting forward a Susan Collins light in a race. You are going to beat her by energizing your base, particularly in a midterm election. There is no doubt though that this election has got to be a referendum on Susan Collins.

on the ways in which she has voted to empower Donald Trump, on her refusal to hold Donald Trump accountable, on the ways in which she has said, Oh, I might be fair, but I want to take health care away from millions of people. Says the right thing often. Does the wrong thing very much?

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So this is very much the message we hear over and over again and I I love that uh Platiner in front of him it said they don't know Maine, you know what I mean? Usually not his own name, not a bunch of other things. It was like, Hello media, this one is for you. I want to play two clips back to back because it sort of I think represents something of this race. First, I'm going to play for you JD Vance.

And how he talks about Susan Collins, and then I'm gonna play AOC, and how she's talking about Platiner. You tell me how you hear the tone of these.

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Here's the thing I'll say about Susan Collins is sometimes I get frustrated with Susan Collins. I almost wish that she was more partisan. But the thing I love about Susan is she is independent because Maine is an independent state and frankly, if she was as partisan as I sometimes wish that she was, she would not be a good fit for the people of Maine. So let's give a shout out to Susan Collins who's doing a great job.

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Uh when it comes to the substance of this reporting, obviously there's a lot in that behavior that's really challenging. It's hard to stomach, you know, in some of it. But but at the end of the day I think that this is a choice. If that choice on the ballot is between that and a senator who's voted to take health care away from millions of Americans, that's the situation that we have to weigh.

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I played these'cause one is like it's hard to stomach and the other's like I get frustrated. Shout out though anyway'cause I guess Maine. And I was like these are not ringing endorsements.

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Auddy, not only are they not ringing endorsements, the voter that we played in the package before, listen to her tone. Maine independents are the second largest part. woman and a Democrat who said she voted for Susan Collins against her will, it sounded like, from that thing. So but those are those are some of the things that we're gonna have to consider now. It's really about the character quality is what something that

Graham Platiner has been trying to say, forget about that. I'm from here. It's how she's voted to Max's point. But then also you hear the voters and they're like, as little still unsure because of those character issues with Platiner. So

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Telling a story for a while of like, you know, I I was went through difficult times. Now I'm a person who has changed. I want to ask one more thing. Collins and Trump. That's not a tight bond, okay? Can I just put it that way? Um here's a a list I I'm gonna play for you just some moments over the past couple of months where you hear her talking around Trump policies and where she stands on them.

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The sixty days is a trigger. After sixty days, in my view, uh the president has the obtain congressional approval.

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Or

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Congress can block it. I do not believe that individuals who were convicted of violence against police officers on January Sex should be entitled to reimbursement for their legal fees. Concerned about um the cuts in Medicaid and the impact. On my state, but other states as well. I've talked with the Secretary of Homeland Security. I have strongly recommended to her that there be a pause. on the enforcement surge in both Maine and in uh Minnesota.

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Now I've chased her in the hallways before too. She often ends up voting with Republicans, whatever that party line is. But is Trump gonna get involved in this simply because of what's at stake with the Senate or is he gonna send surrogates, he'll be like, Okay, JD, you go there, like, can she expect any support there?

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Yeah, I feel that's why he sent J D and I feel he will, if he's smart, actually keep some distance from this. I mean part of the the the thing at stake here is that they're independent. Maine is a little bit different. I mean both these candidates come from sort of Almost independent of the party because they f they really focus on the issues.

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Recruiting from outside the party.

W

Exactly. So they're they're both sort of weirdly outsiders, even though Collins has been Republican and part of the party for a long time, she's always struck. an independent game this entire time. So I think that's gonna continue uh during this race. That is her path because if she does get too close to Trump, that's gonna be the argument, say, well, she's too mega, she's not too much for Maine, which is more or less a blue stick.

Mid-East Tensions & Epstein News

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saying there's nothing to be gained there uh of him coming. Okay, you guys stay with me because we're gonna talk about a couple other states this hour as well. We're also still waiting for news about some sort of proposed deal with Iran. But in the meantime, the U.S. has launched new strikes against Iran overnight. Plus, Epstein's former assistant testifies before Congress.

what she says she did not see. And a Texas teenager convicted of killing a rival track star why the jury rejected his claim of self-defense.

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And it's just sad that it had to come to this. It was just a a bad, bad decision he made.

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US-Iran Military Escalation

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Right now we are following the latest round of escalation between the U.S. and Iran. U.S. Central Command saying they're now finished hitting targets in Iran in response to an army helicopter getting shot down over the Strait of Hormuz. Iran State Media, however, released new video overnight saying they retaliated to the US by attack uh by launching missiles against targets in Behran and Kuwait and an airbase in Jordan.

Joining me now with the latest CNN International Correspondent Paula Hancocks in Abu Dhabi. Um Paula, can you talk about this? We know Iran throughout the last couple of weeks has they've s tried to spread the war throughout the region. What have you heard from officials in Kuwait or Bahrain uh about confirmed damage?

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The next few hours are going to be crucial as to whether or not this is a an isolated escalation between the US and Iran, or whether it is a a step on the escalatory ladder. Now at this point we have not heard Any uh damage assessment or or casualty figures uh from those uh countries which were targeted uh by Iran, that is uh Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain. Uh Iran said that it had

uh targeted the uh the 5th fleet headquarters in Bahrain. They also say that they targeted a military base in Jordan, Kuwait as well, saying that it was intercepting incoming aerial missiles and drones. So what we've heard from Iran's side is that they have said that there will no attack will go unanswered from the United States. What we had seen from US Central Command is they said they had carried out what they

proportional response to the shooting down of that Apache helicopter saying that there were three locations along the Strait of Hormuz uh that were targeted. They say that they hit air defence. ground control stations, uh radar sites.

uh as well. Now one US official telling CNN that this was really uh intended to be a warning to uh Iran and they do hope that uh they will still be able to keep uh the talks on track that it won't hinder those talks, although we've heard uh from Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson that Iran is reviewing negotiations at this point, uh accusing the US of negotiating in bad faith.

Morning Roundup: Gates & Crime

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Okay, that's Paula Hancock's with that update. Thank you so much. It is now 17 minutes past the hour. Want to give you your morning roundup. Happening today, the House Oversight Committee will hear from Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates. Behind closed doors. He's scheduled to testify about his professional relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Gates has not been accused of wrongdoing. Meanwhile, Epstein's former assistant, Leslie Groff, testified on Tuesday.

Saying that she quote never witnessed anything improper or illegal. She also told lawmakers she arranged multiple calls between Epstein and Donald Trump before he was president. And in Texas, a teen who fatally stabbed a 17-year-old track athlete from a rival team. has been convicted of murder and sentenced to 35 years in prison. A jury rejected Carmelo Anthony's claims of self-defense during a confrontation with Austin Metcalfe in the stadium bleachers last year.

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It's just sad that it had to come to this. It was just a a bad, bad decision he made, but he took a life. And uh it's unfortunate that two young lives are affected so negatively about that.

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Anthony did not testify. His mother took the stand during the sentencing phase, telling jurors her son was sorry.

California Governor's Race Heats Up

And CNN now projecting Republican Steve Hilton will advance to the November election in the California governor's race against Democrat Javier Becerra. Becerra, the former health secretary, finished on top with nearly 28% of the vote. Three points ahead of Hilton, a former Fox News host who has President Trump's endorsement.

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In November, whether they want to keep going with the policies that have brought us to the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment rate, the highest cost of living in the country, whether they want more of that. with Javier Becerra or whether they want to go in a new direction.

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Uh, I have to ask quickly, if Hilton does well, is California still going to be the corrupt election state that Republicans are saying it is?

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Uh yeah.

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Well of course.

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Uh how much can you actually make it?

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Threshold after which it's no longer considered corrupt if a republic is a very good thing.

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You know, you know what, especially given this state it'll depend on how the votes are counted. I feel that especially after the next

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Next we do that.

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No, really.

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But you can see why I'm asking, right? Like if he wins it's fine, but if he doesn't win, it's corrupt.

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Maybe, maybe. I think it's still fairly unlikely that he's gonna win this race. Um I will also say that it's the been the process in California taking so long to discover

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Everyone's talking.

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Everybody's talking about it.

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Everyone's disagreeing on what that means. Of course.

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But it makes people uncomfortable uh with the response.

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I have to mention one other thing just because the number's astounding. Tom Stires spending 215 million. I'm not good at long division, so I didn't want to know how much per voter that. Spend was. I can't do it. And someone on on online was saying, Oh, have you ever heard of effective altruism and that this was ineffective altruism, basically.

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an ROI in the business term, right? You need a return on that investment. This is twice for Steyr now. He has not gotten that ROI. When is enough enough? If I had that kind of money I would invest it in something else. He has tried this political acumen. It has not worked out. Voters have said that.

In the billionaire class, we've got AOC and others that have talked about the billionaire class, and we have somebody here spending his own money like this. It it seems like a waste where it could be invested in other

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Well it's been a wild race coming from last year to all of a sudden have Becerra at the front. We couldn't have seen that then. Now after the break on CNN this morning. Controversial to win. So the Colorado frontrunner for governor claims he killed a man when he was seven years old. I have more stories like that from him. Plus, AI companies are rushing to the stock market. Is it the next 10? Check boom or is the AI bubble about to burst?

And for viewers watching us from right here in New York City, Nyx versus Spurs again tonight at the Garden. Good morning.

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Is the AI Bubble About to Burst?

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So a bunch of IPOs in the AI sector are about to hit Wall Street. After OpenAI announced on Monday it filed for an initial public offering an IPO, the three biggest AI companies are now in line to go public as well. That includes Anthropic and SpaceX. A fourth, Perplexity, is expected to file in 2028.

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We're talking about it where the American people can benefit from the success of AI. And by doing that they're gonna like it better. Because we're leading China, we're leading everybody in the world with AI and we want to keep it that way. It's like You make them a partnership in this revolution would be a beautiful thing.

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Now investors who get in early could make a fortune, but has the AI boom gotten ahead of itself? Madison Mills joins the group chat. She's the senior AI reporter at Axios. You guys have done some fantastic reporting. um on this industry just to show people the amount of money at stake. When you look at open AI uh and SpaceX and Anthropic, they're worth three point five trillion. We dug around and we found out that's like as much money as, you know.

France. Like okay, so we're dealing with a lot of money. But is it a bubble? Yeah. And I asked because we've got some people on TikTok who I'm gonna play for you the finance experts online.

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AI companies are now trying to save themselves by applying for IPOs.

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OpenAI and Anthropic plan to have IPOs at release before the end of this year. Signaling to me that the AI bubble is about to And that these insiders and institutional investors know that they better cash out now or they may not ever get the chance.

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Why is this the word on the street?

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Yeah, I would push back on a lot of the financial finfluencing that we hear about on

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Influencing. You said it. Go on.

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Um but but just because companies are IPOing doesn't necessarily mean that the bubble is gonna happen this Friday when SpaceX lists on the Nasdaq, right? But the concept of the bubble is this idea that valuations are completely divorced from the underlying business fundamentals, the things that we would learn about in journalism and business school that make a company profitable, right?

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So the street phrase would be they're high on their own supply.

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Absolutely. And that's very clear with a company like SpaceX. Their expected valuation is$1.8 trillion. They're trading at about 90 times their sales, not their profits, just their sales. As of this Friday, when they're expected to list. So that is an example of a company you might look at and say, not sure if the valuation

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I know.

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There's no.

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also this thing I've been learning about um circular uh financing. So help I'm understanding this as you use money from one AI company to do work In your AI company and then another AI company gets work from you, it's like the same money going around and around. Do I have that right?

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Absolutely that's perfect.

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That's it.

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More than that, you could be the CFO of an AI company. Um but of the problem with that is that Anthropic can or OpenAI, any of the AI labs, can book that as revenue and that feeds into that valuation number that we're getting. But that revenue could also just be money that they are getting from Google that then they're giving back to Google in the form of compute capacity. And then Google has that compute capacity and is giving it over to another AI lab. And so it's all very circular right now.

Backlash and Challenges for AI

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It's giving shell game. I'm gonna listen to you because I believe that this market is the future. I understand that, but uh I think people rightly have questions. Uh there are a ton of people who are pushing back on AI right now. You've got some local municipalities super upset about data centers coming near them. Yesterday we played Brad Paisley in Nashville, upset there might be a data center next to the zoo.

Uh here at CNN I wanna disclose we're currently um suing perplexity, alleging that the company is unlawfully copying and sharing CNN content in its summaries. I've also heard of people complaining about the summaries as well. Um how does that figure in to how investors look at this industry, which is facing massive blowbacks?

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Yeah, this AI hate wave that we're seeing could be a real problem for these. AI companies because they need something called compute. That's like the currency, the energy fueling the AI race. If the AI labs can't get their data centers, then they can't get the compute that they need to service. your queries. So it could be a big problem and we're seeing this data center pushback really hitting.

B

Yeah.'Cause some of them are g are supposed to be coming up with their own way to power sort of self power the data centers, but like people don't want'em. And I was thinking when I look at how people talk about AI, for instance, we we played the pro the president earlier. And he said, We're talking about it where the American people can benefit from the success of AI. They're gonna like it better because we're leading China, we're leading everyone in the world, we wanna keep it that way.

And I felt like if you took away the word AI and put globalization, we've heard this before. And I wonder if that is contributing to what you call the hate wave. People feeling like I'm being told something's gonna make my life better. And my experience in the past is that that isn't doesn't play out the way politicians say it will.

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I mean, I would push back on that too, because the overwhelming research shows that people are not happy about AI. There's this UGov poll people cite all the time that showed very clear bipartisan support against AI um across the aisle and and we're seeing that play out with the data center pushback that you had mentioned. I also do think part of the challenge is that these models are getting better so much faster than any

B

Yeah, Anthropic releasing a uh safer work mythos, which is still scary. Yes. Um after saying that they were so worried about it they only brought it to the government and certain companies.

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Exactly. And because of that, I I think that people haven't necessarily seen a lot of the benefits of AI because it's getting better so much faster. Um and so people are, you know, hearing about a data center in their backyard. They're hearing AI CEOs say that it could replace their jobs. And by the way, you haven't really felt the positive use cases of it yet, because it's getting more technical more quickly. Um so I think that creates kind of a challenging soup.

B

for people. We'll see what happens when people are ringing that bell on Wall Street. Madison Mills, thank you so much for being here. Always love to have you. And straight ahead on CNN this morning, the World Cup kicks off tomorrow, but with sky-high ticket prices, problems with immigration, is this going to be the World Cup of chaos? Plus, Nancy Mace broke with President Trump over the Epstein files. Cost her a shot at the governor's mansion in South Carolina or was it something else?

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World Cup Plagued by Chaos

So the World Cup kicks off tomorrow. I know I said it. It kicks off across North America, but are the off-the-field headlines threatening to overshadow the biggest tournament in the world? So there was a Somali referee turned away by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol in Miami when he arrived for his World Cup assignment. The Trump administration tells CNN that vetting uncovered derogatory information. They did not go into further detail.

Now the ref told the New York Times quote, I'm just simply a referee trying to live his dream. Fans from Scotland said their permits were withdrawn at the final moment. Teams from Senegal, Uzbekistan were treated, quote, like criminals, according to critics, and a player from Iraq was questioned for seven hours upon arrival in Chicago.

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Every few hours. It's another story. Another story about fans denied, players denied, officials denied.

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Journalists denied. Now refs? You know something, I'm laughing, but it's not funny. It's actually not funny. Something has to be said. Expensive tickets, the most expensive tickets ever. You know what? This is the World Cup. This is a World Cup of chaos.

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Joining us in the group chat, Dan Cordobanch. He's the executive vice president and chief communications officer for major league soccer. Did I say your name right? I don't want your mom being

M

Thank you. It's terrific to be here. Really appreciate it.

B

So I wanted to talk to you about this for a couple of reasons. One, your team sent over some information here and it was noting that there is a record number of MLS players, forty five, who represent countries in this, right? That is correct. Um and that you've also got Done a lot of work through your academies to be a place to recruit people who will want to play here.

Um does this these headlines, do they kind of undermine that message that MLS has been so good, frankly, at cultivating over the last decade?

M

I think what we're gonna see is some of those headlines tomorrow when the World Cup opens in Mexico City, then certainly um in North America and Canada and the United States on Friday, it's gonna shift from some of those headlines, the World Cup of Chaos, to celebration, to pageantry, to a party.

B

But I'm saying for the players. Irritating, scary, frustrating. The whole point is international cooperation. It's not feeling welcoming.

M

So I hear you. You know, ultimately that's a question for the players. It's not something that we've seen. And in Major League Soccer, we have players from 78 different countries. And we've been around for 31 seasons and we haven't experienced that challenges with visa issues or anything. But I understand where you're coming from. We want to be welcoming to all the players. We want to see them have a wonderful time here in the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

B

And a lot of your incoming star players, uh, over the last couple of years coming to the US They're coming from abroad. It's finally a place people are starting to come to and want to play, right?

World Cup Ticket and Host Issues

Now what I loved about that person who spoke at the end of our introduction. is he goes, Oh, I laugh because, you know, it's sort of sort of sad. And then he tied all of that to ticket prices. And I thought that was really fascinating, that people are also looking at this in the context of the cost of the ticket. The average get in price for a World Cup match right now, roughly six hundred dollars for the opening round of the tournament. And people are complaining about FIFA's

uh pricing scheme. And right now, if I want, I can still get a ticket to USA Paraguay. It's not sold out, and it should be.

M

Yeah, I could tell you I'm gonna be there for the US Paraguay game. I certainly anticipate it's gonna be sold out. I gotta tell you, there's unprecedented demand for the World Cup.

B

Why isn't it sold out?

M

Mu much like you'll see for my NYX tonight, where the get-in price is about$15,000 for lower-level seating. Now that said, I think you're gonna see the pageantry. the celebration um throughout the World Cup. But but I understand where people are coming from. Also you have to remind people that FIFA is actually a nonprofit. So all that money goes back to the 211 FIFA nations to build the sport. Especially in some underdevelop developed countries.

B

Okay, I'm glad you brought that up because we did have a California lawmaker, uh, Representative Sidney Kumlagger Dove. She was on the show Friday. She said something I didn't expect to hear related to ticket prices and what her concerns were. Here's what she had to say.

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Yeah.

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The issue is dynamic pricing. Um the other issue is you buy a ticket, you don't know where that seat is going to be, you're spending over a thousand dollars and finally you got the you get the seat and you're behind a post and you can't see anything. We wanna know why ticket prices are changing so dramatically from city to city. I wanna know why cities aren't getting any financial support from the World Cup to actually put on the games.

Because World Cup is getting everything, concessions, merchandise, parking, tickets.

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Yeah.

B

That was just a long list. Can you answer any of it?

M

Well I can tell you, look, we're fortunate, five of the stadiums out of the thirteen markets in the United States and Canada are Major League Soccer Stadiums. And I can tell you that nobody will be sitting behind posts during the World Cup games in those MLS stadiums. So look.

Um she brings up some valid points. She's clearly an expert on it. Um but we think it's gonna pivot again from from some of the challenges that we've seen in the media to the celebration. Um and ultimately goals scored by hopefully the United States national team and they make a deep run in the tournament.

B

I think fundamentally nobody is arguing that it won't be good. They'll be arguing about whether or not they got to participate.

M

Yeah, you know, and I you know, it's also a good reminder that FIFA actually had sixty dollar tickets available. for those passionate supporters who registered early. So they had some affordable prices, but I certainly understand you. And for us, you also have to look at there'll be nearly 80 fan festivals throughout the different markets. Twenty of our MOS clubs are gonna have soccer celebrations. So you're providing free accessibility to fans who may not be able to go to the game.

B

Okay. Well thank you, Dan, so much for being here. Good luck. I know this is your Super Bowl. That's what we say here in the US instead of soccer.

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Yeah.

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I'm a big I'm a University of Georgia graduate.

B

Oh okay, okay. All right. Well thank you for being here. Appreciate your time.

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Appreciate it.

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Next on CNN this morning, Congresswoman Nancy Mace gets crushed in the South Carolina governor's race. Did going against Trump cost her the election? But first,

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If you're elected governor, would you continue to perform exorcisms while governor?

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Yeah, controversial candidate leading in the polls in Colorado, will the strange headlines sway voters?

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Your campaign website falsely claimed that you had rescued more than 45,000 women and children. You once called in a US military airstrike that killed 70 ISIS fighters. You perform exorcism. Commanding demons to come out of people. Do you understand why so many of your critics think you're a con man?

G

No.

Colorado Governor Candidate's Claims

B

Okay, that was a wild ride and it didn't stop there. That reporter in Colorado was interviewing a Republican front runner for governor, Victor Marks. He's a Marine Corps veteran. He runs a faith-based nonprofit, but he's made a lot of outlandish claims and it does not end with exorcisms and rescuing women and children from slavery. He also says he killed a man when he was a child.

Q

Your claim that your abusive stepfather forced you to kill a man when you were seven years old. Is that the only person you've ever killed?

A

Uh

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G

Well, I would say As a as a child, yes, but I've been in other situations where, you know, possibly people or persons die.

Q

Uh do you think that you've killed people as an adult?

G

Does it matter?

Q

Yeah, I'd say so.

G

Why?

Q

Killing somebody's a pretty weighty thing. So I'm just asking you, how many people have you killed?

G

Well, if I did, I wouldn't be telling a reporter. sitting here in my training center.

Q

How about voters? Would you tell voters?

G

There's no need I don't think that's important.

Marx's Political Outsider Appeal

B

Okay, groove chat is back. I wanted to talk about this because we started the hour talking about Maine. Right. And Grand Platinum and being like, Voters, what are they thinking? You know, like what's happening? Wha what will these scandals matter? And and then I was seeing a lot more stories about what's happening in Colorado, just to give you a sense of where things are.

in this Republican primary right now, the fundraising, Victor Marx is at 2.7 million. The next closest person is at around 500K, who is a state senator. Um I know you're just kind of clocking into this, Jared, but um help me understand why he's so far ahead in the money. That means people are the donors. So people with pockets are giving to him.

W

In fairness, that may shift a bit after this moment, seeing him not as a credit.

B

Yeah.

W

And frankly, it Colorado, look, they haven't re elected a Republican governor of that state.

B

Since twenty twenty two.

W

Two thousand two, actually.

B

Thousand two.

W

So it's been a long time. I think you sometimes see this in states that have gone one way for a long time. You get Sometimes candidates who are not particularly credible, there's a sort of a desperation saying, this guy seems like an outsider. He said, look, we saw this in Maine. Somebody who's an outsider, in that case, actually had a huge amount of success against a political establishment.

B

Just how far.

W

A bit outside.

B

I'm gonna I need it to be like what's happening with this exorcism bit? Is this an internet joke? Is this people sort of you know, I don't know what I thought, but here's what I saw.

G

When you say I perform exorcisms. Yeah.

Q

You described yourself as a quote unquote reluctant exorcist.

G

Right.

Q

Yeah, describe to me how your exorcisms work when you command demons actually.

G

Well that's a joke. We identify the demon? Like Jesus did, we ask what their name is, and then we give them commands. Uh and they very frequently and typically will answer through the person's mind. They'll tell us what they hear. And then we destroy them, banish them to perfect perfect judgment from Christ.

Q

If you're elected governor, would you continue to perform exorcisms while governor?

G

God would never stop praying for people.

K

Hello.

I

Audie, Audi, remember when we were talking about candidate quality early in the first segment? Shout out to Kyle Clark, the reporter there for Nine News in Denver. I love watching him on social media.

B

He's actually become a bit of a social media star precisely for this coverage.

I

For this and the pushback, he's asked different questions of different candidates to give them factual examples. And the fact that he did this, I think. It truly exposes a candidate. The fact that he has 2.7, like you said, million dollars in do in campaign donations is should be alarming for all of us given this guy's track record. and his history and what he just said in that interview there. We're all trying to make sense of exorcisms and this morning about a candidate.

B

But you know what I think I also thought like, okay, Marines i i if he's a guy talking about the war, maybe people are interested in that. If he's a guy talking about Epstein, which he is, somebody who's uh constantly talking about child trafficking, there are Um lanes within the MAGA movement that are laser focused on the

K

I'll say this as a partisan Democrat to my Republican friends and colleagues. That's your guy. That's your nominee. They should vote for him. They should rally for him.

B

I think under his own.

K

So this is their pathway to finally take it. Us Democrats are so afraid of this guy and you know

I

Republicans just.

B

Okay, what you're saying, I can see you amused, but however, here's Lauren Borbert uh of Colorado giving her word on why she thinks this is a decent path.

\

So I think right now in in Colorado we need a motivator who can then lead. Motivation has to be key in any of our Republican races. um especially in a non election year. Uh I believe that Victor Marx will get qualified people in positions. I stand ready to help him. I am not disparaging any of the other candidates. I have endorsed Victor Marx, but that's not something

that I've turned the volume way up on. I want candidates to be able to professionally run their own race. I I do not like the um hateful back and forth that I see with Republicans.

B

Uh today is a day of ringing endorsements. Um No, no. This is the we talked about this during the break, the imperfect messenger argument. We heard this with Trump, right? You're an evangelical, maybe you're like, I don't know about the marriages, I don't know about this, I don't know about that, but maybe he will put in people that will do the thing we want.

W

It's it's the outsider can. Look, I mean in Maine you had a guy who has a Nazi tattoo who's fighting the fascists. Was that a credible campaign? Maybe he did.

B

Maybe he should call it.

W

That's that's also an outsider candidate that people see as different from the establishment as it is in the state. If they think things are going the wrong way, even a charismatic, let's call it, candidate like this can punch through. Yes, the other side may say, hey, we want that guy, we want to face him, but sometimes you get what you wish for and it turns up bad.

Nancy Mace's Primary Defeat

B

I have one more thing about being an outsider. This one is about a member of Congress who had hoped to go into a new office in the next year. They're coming up short. Last night, Republican Nancy Mays finished fifth in the GOP primary for South Carolina governor. She did not get the president's endorsement in the race. She believes it was because of her vote to release the Epstein files, which may have eventually led to her defeat.

Z

I chose to expose the

B

Abusers.

Z

of children. And apparently I chose wrong.

F

An election.

E

Thank you.

Z

I'm at peace with that because when a candidate is over

F

Okay.

Z

With corruption when a candidate is okay.

B

With cover ups something.

Z

is broken. And that's not political opinion.

B

That is a moral emergency. Um group chat is back. I'm gonna just say it. There's been a lot of difficult headlines for Nancy Mace, another person who is dealing with scandal and allegations. Uh but at the same time, she is another person who talked about Epstein a lot, right? She's another person who got on the wrong side of Trump on certain issues. Is that reflected here or is this really candidate quality? I

I

I wanna go back to something we talked about in Maine with Susan Collins talking about the issues and Platinum as well, talking about issues to Mainers. I feel like South Carolinans didn't hear Nancy Mays talking about that. And more of those headlines and more of her getting a microphone in front of her or coming on this network and arguing with somebody and then saying something completely the opposite when she gets off camera. I think those things are what really caught up to her

B

I still heard she didn't do ad spend on TV, like only digital. Is that wise?

K

What? First of all, Donald Trump still has a stranglehold on the Republican primary, and that is why his party is getting ripped apart. Because the primary base is so extreme and they are so disassociated at this point from independents and moderates. nationwide, but Nancy Mace took it one step further. She decided to antagonize not just Donald Trump, but literally everyone in her life, to include just random folks at the airport. So what you saw here was

And politicians do this sometimes. They jump into races not to win, but to bolster their public profile for something there.

B

Well this is the kind of thing that is in my group chat because uh every member of the YOLO caucus The uh the people who limp back to Congress from their primaries. They're really upset and they plan to spend the next couple of months antagonizing the White House. Do you think Nancy Mace will be one of those?

W

I think she's going to in her final months. I mean she's already burned all the bridges. Um she's I think the voters in her state didn't like the drama and they said, Hey, we don't want that actually running the

B

You're not effective.

W

You're not effective, and you're effective. And she's gonna continue this. Obviously, if she's done it up to this point, I don't think she's gonna stop. Uh but I she's already burned the bridges with President Trump, clearly. So what have you got to lose now?

Group Chat: Sports and Politics

B

Okay, speaking of YOLO, we're gonna talk about what's in our group chats on this news show. Mike Leon, what are you talking about in your group chats?

I

First off, it's always the Knicks. But I'm talking about UFC 250. Um, one thing that is always interesting.

B

This is the UFC fight, the claws going up on the White House.

I

Freedom 250, unnecessary, the all of this that you're seeing here in the screen here. But Trump has always used the combat sports space. To talk to voters. It's something I've talked to Democrats about. Senator Ruman Gallego, who's a big boxing fan, with him and I have had this conversation.

B

They're giving tickets to combat.

I

Correct and e exactly and Trump has always used as a vehicle from his relationship with Tyson and the fights that he would put on in Trump uh Taj Mahal or whatever. Yeah. He would always be in this space. He's always had these relationships. because those are the kind of voters that go out and vote for him. That's the thing that we've always talked about.

B

My friend at the Daily Signal was

W

So I'm gonna bring up the Knicks because it's a big thing. It it matters me. I'm from Oakland, California. The saddest Sports Town America, we've lost all of our sports teams. So just the fact the Knicks, look, I have a lot of New York sports fan friends who haven't seen the Knicks or the Jets or these teams ever do anything pretty much in their life. And now they get to spend some time with their kids and enjoy this moment. It may not come again. So you know what? It's communal.

B

Yeah. Last word.

K

You know it. Donald Trump lost that.

I

Yeah.

K

Stay away.

B

You're one of those people.

K

Yeah. He lost it for us. All we were doing is winning. This guy shows up.

B

Well luckily he's not going, so the all of New York is not calling in the

K

Dislike the guy more.

B

You guys, thank you so much. Thank you for waking up with us. I'm Audie Cornish, and the headlines are next.

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