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Even if Platner Wins, Questions Will Remain

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Summary

Today's discussion delves into the complex Maine Democratic primary, where candidate Graham Plattner faces scrutiny over past scandals, prompting debate on candidate vetting. The episode also explores the "jinx" attributed to former President Trump's NBA finals attendance and the broader intersection of politics and sports. Furthermore, it examines the contentious landscape of sports betting regulation, California's contested election processes, and Hunter Biden's calculated move to reclaim his public narrative.

Episode description

As polls open in Maine, a big question for the Dems is whether Graham Platner should be the party's nominee in November, even if he wins today's primary ... Donald Trump becomes the first sitting president to attend an NBA finals game, and the home team blows a 13-game winning streak. Coincidence? ... A private jet bursts into a massive fireball during an emergency crash landing. We bring you the latest on the investigation into what went wrong. 

 

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Intro / Opening

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Maine Primary and Initial Headlines

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There are polls opening up right at this moment in Maine. Today in the group chat, should Grant Plattner be the Democrat on the ballot in November, even if he wins today's primary.

N

The most important thing in this election is unseating Susan Collins.

B

Donald Trump becomes the first sitting president to attend an NBA finals game, and the home team blows a 13-game winning streak. Coincidence?

U

I yelled for help.

B

And that's

U

Thank God for them. You know?

B

There are flood waters on the rise in the Midwest, the harrowing rescue tales this morning. As waters recede. The investigation into what went wrong this morning.

E

That they want to build next to the Nashville Zoo, which is a absolute nightmare scenario.

B

That's country's superstar Brad Paisley speaking out against a proposed data center near the Nashville Zoo. Could it pose a threat to the thousands of animals there? And the World Cup starts this week. Could money and greed overshadow the beautiful game.

Y

Tenegal France game, it's almost like

G

Okay.

Y

$2,000 ticket, that's outrageous. That's outrageous.

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Trump's NBA Finals Jinx Debate

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So people here in New York waking up, I don't know, in a foul mood, maybe pointing fingers after the Knicks lose a much hyped game three of the NBA finals. Good morning everybody. Good morning to New York. I'm Audie Cornish. You know, when you mix sports and politics, you do so at your own peril. For instance, here's Stephen A. Smith before last night's tip-off at the garden.

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If the New York Knicks lose game three, this is on Donald Trump. You think I've been on him before? I'm gonna be on his ass like backpack. Like white on rice. You got no business doing this. He doesn't belong at this game. No president does. None of them. Democrat, Republican, independent, I don't give a damn.

B

So the president, who is a New Yorker, showed up anyway, and that's not unusual. Trump has attended the Super Bowl, the US Open College Football National Championship. He's now the first sitting president to attend the NBA Finals. But now the Knicks 13 game playoff winning streak is over, and Knicks fans well, this is what they're saying about it.

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I won the next to win this game. Trump just had to bring his ass down.

J

He's a jinx. It's like the goat in Chicago. Frickin' jinxed everything.

B

Okay, today in the group chat we've got Brianna Lyman, reporter for the Federalists, and Christine Quinn, Executive Committee Chair for the New York State Democratic Committee. Sportspeople are very superstitious. Let's just say that.

Uh there was this tweet from Ron Philipowski. I'm not an expert on jinxes, hexes, curses, and voodoo, not superstitious either. But if I was the Knicks, I probably wouldn't let Trump near the arena for game four, just to be on the safe side. What was the point of this for Trump?

F

Well, I think Trump has been a lifelong Knicks fan. There are pictures of him with Marla Maples, with Melania Trump in the nineties and early two thousands. So this is someone who probably is rooting for the same team he's been rooting for for

B

Exactly.

F

Yeah, she did.

B

Trump and Mam Dani are Knicks fans. They've been New Yorkers. You can't tell them what they're not gonna do. I think the thing I found interesting is Trump is very much our sports president. Yes. Has been. Obama was an NBA guy, and he didn't go to games because he said it creates too much of a problem for the fans.

V

Absolutely but look I live on the west side of Manhattan. It was a mess yesterday.

B

I was about to say, how are you here?

N

Exactly.

V

It was a total mess. Fans had to get there at least two hours early. There didn't get to be a watch party right outside the garden. I I get that he may be a fan, but you have to really appreciate when you're president. You're not just popping in and popping out. You're putting a whole bunch of people out and in this case He was a jinx.

F

Mondani could have been the jinx.

B

Completely like he was a jinx, Christine Quinn, Jinx expert. Well, here's the thing. The reason why I'm asking about this is not just because it's funny, uh, but also because One of the things people are accusing the administration of being in this moment when there's economic difficulty for people is tone-deaf. The idea that look We're here, the regular Schmoes who want to be involved in this thing. And he comes and just says, kind of let them eat cake, right? You can watch it on TV.

And was what was the sort of I understand he's a fan, but does that contribute to the tone deaf narrative?

F

Oh, I don't think this was tone deaf at all. I I think, first of all, a lot of those tickets, I mean, some of them are going for thousands of dollars. I think I saw one ticket price at$7,000. And the people who were buying them and who were courtside were a lot of people very popular among the left and celebrities, right?

B

Well they have motorketes in place of security or

F

No, but those are the same people who for four years lectured us that things were fine under Joe Biden. So they also could be considered tone-deaf. But I think the president, politics is obviously very hostile, but sports is one of those last remaining arenas where people do put politics aside.

B

I just want to do that.

F

Also near.

B

It's Mass it's Madison Square Garden. He is the New Yorker of New Yorkers. And um this is how people reacted.

L

I thought it was amazing actually. You mean when they had the camera on me. I thought it was very good, yeah. It was certainly amazing. It was it was uh I think mostly tears. It was

a

Thank you.

B

Uh Carrie Champion here, CNN contributor and host of the Flagrant and Funny podcast. We had to bring in a little bit of an extra expert because we're political people. We don't know. We know about jinxes. Yeah we know about hoaxes. We don't know when politics and sports clash what is the outcome. It's just New York. New York wasn't voting for Trump and Mass anyway. But it's this a problem.

K

I listen, I well first of all, you you said you know, people in sports normally I I hear you say that normally they don't really care so much about politics. They absolutely cared about politics. This is such a rare moment for New Yorkers. People have waited their entire lives. The last time they won a chip was nineteen seventy three.

B

But isn't that why the president of the United States who is a New Yorker would want to be there?

K

In fact, you should not want to be there because you want to keep that same momentum going. You knew you New York is such a rare place. I've never seen fans like this before in my entire life and they deserve to have this moment and it was supposed to be uninterrupted. Meaning we were supposed to have our watch parties around MSG. We were supposed to be in that moment. And I do believe and you know the great Stephen A. Smith said just the other day.

U

Yeah.

K

So he fully blames him.

B

You can't be on a streak and then have someone come in and cool the street. That's not political.

K

He was absolutely

B

I'm saying cooler. Let me play one more thing. Tommy Viator, Pod Save America host. Obviously these are Obama guys, but they're talking about the power of sports and why politicians would want to be involved. Here's that.

H

I mean he knows the power of live professional sports and that's the only like kind of monocultural events we really have left. That's why he goes to a lot of games. Usually it's the NFL. He went to the Super Bowl. Usually he's more welcome in those, you know, sort of southern NFL spaces. I I I don't think he will be here. I mean he's also buddies with James Dolan, I think, the owner of the next always pals with the owners. Yeah. Not not a real player guy. Yeah.

Like look, he loves the limelight. He loves every spotlight and he will attempt to co opt this one too.

B

Um just that word corrupt co-op we know that he loves sports. UFC claw rising like a phoenix on the lawn.

K

I don't know if he do you really think I don't think he loves sports.

B

He's always been he's been going to ringside games and matches. No sick.

K

And he went to a few games, but he would never do that. One, it's on our dime. Two, it disrupts everything that goes on while you're there. And yes, UFC's a different thing for him. in terms of for Donald Trump. That's more of his fan base. That's where he lives. That's where people love to see him. He has obviously the relationship with Dana. So when we see him at the NBA finals, it really throws off everything that people want

B

Yeah, yeah.

K

Yeah.

B

Like why invite renovating Penn Station and oh there's a bunch of questions there about that relationship that I wonder if people are gonna probe more now that they are, I don't know, angry. I b being from Boston, let me tell you, I know to keep my mouth shut. Because I'm trying to live a long, happy life.

Diverse News and Serena Williams' Return

All right, coming up on CNN this morning, we're gonna talk about LA now. It looks like Spencer Pratt might be out in that mayoral race, the former reality TV star finding he's falling behind. So was the red wave in LA just a splash? Plus the Queen, ready for her return, Serena Williams back on the tennis court today. Why now? And then we're gonna talk about Hunter Biden trying to reclaim the narrative. Is it working?

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I know there are going to be a lot of haters, a lot of trolls, a lot of people saying really, really awful things, but I've heard it all before. It doesn't even faze me.

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I'm CNN Tech Reporter Claire Duffy. This week on the podcast Terms of Service. CNN digital senior writer Eric Levinson, he's following several cases that are the first of their kind. Cases seeking to use AI conversations and content as evidence. How have we seen chatbot conversations playing into court proceedings?

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We've seen a few big cases recently and chat GPT messages and conversations have helped show the mindset of certain people. So there was the case Last year, the big Palisades fire in LA that destroyed a lot of LA and the Pacific Palisades, they arrested a suspect who had been at a mountaintop nearby on New Year's Eve like a week before and had messaged ChatGBT about his interest in And what happens if a cigarette lights a fire? And so that was used as part of the evidence accusing him of arson.

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Listen to CNN's Terms of Service wherever you get your podcast.

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It is now fifteen minutes past the hour. This is your morning roundup. Sam Bankman Fried, who orchestrated one of the world's largest financial frauds, Wants a pardon. The co-founder and CEO of the crypto exchange FTX was convicted on multiple counts of fraud and conspiracy, and in fact he's serving a 25-year prison sentence.

He officially applied for a pardon according to the Justice Department, but back in January, Trump told the New York Times he would not pardon Bankman-Fried. And two people confirmed dead after a private jet. crashed while attempting to land in the Dominican Republic. The plane blew up in flames after skidding across the runway. Officials say the pilot and co-pilot, both US nationals, died. No passengers were on board.

And the Nashville Zoo pushing back on a proposal to build a nearly 70,000 square foot data center right on the edge of its property. Country music star and Nashville resident Brad Paisley trying to drum up support for a petition. against the project.

E

Let's stop it. They don't have to do this here. Build'em somewhere else, but let's keep Nashville as beautiful and uh as uh as great an attraction as it's always been.

B

DC Blocks, the company behind the proposal, assures there would be no health risks to the residents or the animals. And don't call it a comeback. Today the GOAT, Serena Williams officially coming out of retirement. The 44-year-old will play a doubles match at the Queen's Club Championships alongside a Canadian teenager. When asked why now, She told reporters, why not? Now is the best time for her and her family. I have to take this to Carrie Champion. What is your thesis on the coming back? So

K

I love how she's like, she's preparing us. She's managing us. She's managing upwards as they would say.

B

Managing the expectations.

K

Exactly. She says, Oh, it's just for my kids to see me play. I totally believe that. But I think she, like Alison Felix, like Lindsay Vaughn had done, everyone's prepping for the Olympics. My theory is that she's like, Yeah, I'll work my way to playing single. We c well not that way, but she came out of retirement. coming out of retirement because they're meeting the expectations of guess what? So what if I'm forty? So what if I'm forty plus? Yes. I'm still going to play. I still have

B

I thought she did it because she saw Big Sis on the court and was like, you know what, I miss it. I have a sister, so I feel like that's a good idea.

K

That might be a little bit of it, but I I I have a feeling she'll play.

B

Well, listen, I want her kid to see her play too. Shout out to Olympia. Okay, after the break on CNN this morning, prediction markets.

Sports Gambling Regulation and Integrity

And Pro Sports. Is it time for new rules to protect players and the integrity of the games? Plus, there is dangerous flooding. There's also efforts to rescue people from rising waters. We're gonna be going live to Mexico City as well, which will host their first World Cup match two days from now, Mexico versus South Africa.

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We were getting a ruling just one day after the NCAA basically comes out and says, this guy's not allowed. Okay. This is not, we're not doing this. This judge comes out and says, actually, can play.

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All right, as the sports world grapples with the world of sports gambling and prediction markets, a new ruling is sending shockwaves through college football. The NCAA ruled Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soresby was ineligible. after placing more than ninety thousand dollars in bets on college sports, and that includes forty bets on his own team when he played at Indiana. Now a federal judge has overruled all of that. The judge conveniently based in Texas Tech's hometown of Lubbock

argued that Soresby will suffer, quote, probable, imminent, and irreparable injury if he's not able to play for the Red Raiders this year. And the chairman of the NCAA calls the decision a glaring integrity threat. He wants Congress to pass a new bill which would allow them to enforce their gambling restrictions, adding quote,

It's needed now more than ever. Wanna note here that CNN has a partnership with CalShi, a prediction market. And I'm bringing in Randall Williams, sports business reporter at Bloomberg. I wanted to talk to you because as we are having this conversation about betting in general, there is this push to regulate harder prediction markets. What's the difference between betting in a prediction market and betting with DraftKings or a regular sports betting book at Vegas?

Q

Sure, so s let's say sports gambling is more I'm putting money into a sports book than I'm gonna get that money right back. This in Call Sheen Polymarket it's derivative based and so What the offerings of Calci and Polymarket have seen, you've been able to bet on Gatorades. You've been able to bet on Gatorade Color after a team wins the Super Bowl.

B

Strikes in Iran, uh capturing Maduro.

Q

All of these things are very, very manipulative because of the fact that people will seek out information in order to make a ton of money. That's called insider trading. And so from a sports perspective, the last thing that you want, especially after all of these years of sports gambling with the MLB, with the NBA, with the NFL, we've seen suspensions across all of them in different cases and even at the federal level as well.

They're trying to get a handle on these things. Different leagues have different approaches. Some are partnering with them and trying to say, hey, if we don't partner with them, then they're going to run rampant. Others are saying, not so fast. We want to see what happens.

B

So to your point the M L B has a data sharing agreement again'cause they're trying to catch bad actors. Right. I've been paying attention to this story because um We've actually talked here at CNN to like college age adults. There was one story where the the student said the ads got me and he was talking about prediction markets specifically.

He says predictions absolutely mean gambling and frankly I'm surprised you loopholed this so well to allow someone like me to gamble on this stuff. This is what he was uh writing in his comments. A hundred percent should be banned before my c before more kids like me use it because God knows they shouldn't. Now, there's a couple things that the sports leagues have written to federal regulators asking for. Raising the betting age from eighteen to twenty one. Yeah.

A ban on waging on your own team. We just talked about that in the introduction. Um ban over under bets on fouls and injuries, getting injured, and then mandatory fan conduct rules. What's going on there?

Q

First of all, multifaceted. As far as the betting age, when you think about if you're on TikTok, if you're on ESPN, if you're on NBC, there are so many betting ads. And there's even betting sections of the shows. As far as the the kids themselves, when you're watching these things, whether it be Pat McAfee, whether it be First Take, whether it be Sports Center, whether it be from FS1 and Fox, you're going to see so much of it that you're gonna be like, well

B

How bad could it be?

J

How bad?

Q

could it be? And then it's like you win once. Now you're chasing that thrill. And that can be a very addictive process. So from the league perspective, they're like, okay, let's try to push this until their brain is a little bit uh more fully developed. and then they can make their own decisions. But the reality is the floodgates of gambling are already open. When you accept money, this is a possibility and people are going to try to win a lot of it.

B

So Donald Trump actually um was just posting about this on Truth Social, where he said it's critically important that the CFTC's exclusive authority over prediction markets. is maintained and that they will thrive. Can you talk about where he's coming down on this issue and where that compares to what the leagues are asking?

Q

Well I think what President Trump is asking I think is more impartial to or more partial to the fact that Colchi and Poly Market have things that are outside of sports offering. You mentioned some of the Iran war strikes. We mentioned when President Maduro was captured. If you can bet on some of those things, like who's to say that doesn't leak and compromise an operation? And so

He is trying to get a hold on and say, hey, we have some things going on at the federal level that are a serious issue. I think those things run in line with. some of the sports offerings as well. But it remains to be seen how well the sports world and President Trump will work together on these. Because President Trump was at the Knicks game yesterday. He's also targeted the NFL for

uh the sports uh broadcasting act and trying to see if uh if you know the the district excuse me the distribution among streamers and traditional broadcasters is too wide. So it I think they are walking in the same path. But just at different paces.

B

Do you have a question?

K

I was just really curious, like why is that his business?

Q

President Trumps? Yeah. I think it's his business because of the fact that he just doesn't want leaks out there. He doesn't want to be known as the president who had insider trading at all of these different things that were going on. That were a result of him. So if someone's gonna be making money from his operations, he wants it to be himself or the people around him.

B

But I should say we should note there is currently I think a US service member who is facing charges. Um for allegedly placing wagers, contracts, and prediction markets over the when and where of Maduro. So it feels like these things are just now sort sort of entering the judicial system where a lot of it'll be hashed out. Randall, I want to let you go, but before I do, Nyx, are you where are you on Trump as cooler or Nick's just had a bad night?

Q

Oh, I believe President Trump absolutely cursed the Knicks.

B

Oh cursed. Strong language all that.

Q

I I've been to several events that President Trump has attended. UFC events, I was at the Super Bowl that he attended. All of them had different results, but this one I was like, I I don't think he should go to this one just because of the fact that they were riding high and now he shows up and Vamos a ver.

B

Okay, the word from Bloomberg Business. No.

Maine Primary Scandals and Vetting

Straight ahead on CNN this morning. It's primary day in Maine. We want to talk about that. Can voters there get over the scandals weighing down Democrat Graham Plattner's campaign? Plus, a US Army helicopter goes down in the Middle East. will be giving an update on the crew on board.

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You ever have somebody offer to come home with you from the hardware store?

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I am

X

a room makeover.

L

the catch.

X

Three days to complete this renovation. no say in design and we start today.

B

You're not just gonna steal everything.

X

Ready to get your house.

K

For real.

X

A little dated. It's time to turn this over to us. You guys got

B

Gotta get out of here.

J

Crashers, all new Monday at 1030 on HGTV.

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B

I'm a Democrat, but I

F

Don't feel sick.

B

Like he's gonna be my job.

D

I don't want Susan Collins to win and I think that maybe Janet Mills has a greater chance of beating Susan than

M

Graham did.

a

Thank you.

B

So voting is underway. For primary day in Maine, Democrats choosing between Graham Plattiner or Janet Mills, who is still on the ballot. We're gonna talk about that more in a moment. Good morning everybody. I'm Audi Cornish and thank you for joining me on CNN this morning. It is now half past the hour. And here's what's happening right now.

President Trump saying pilots are okay. After report of an Apache helicopter going down near the Strait of Hormuz, the New York Times reported that two crew members had to be rescued. Later today. Chinese President Xi Jinping wrapping up his two-day visit in North Korea with leader Kim Jong-un. It's been seven years since she's last visit. He's called for deepening, quote, strategic cooperation with North Korea.

And intense flash flooding hits Missouri with multiple people needing to be rescued from their homes and cars. Talking about four to six inches of rain falling on parts of the state on Monday, and it did trigger an emergency. Full of water.

C

We're screwed.

X

Amen.

a

Thank you.

B

Local officials are saying that it remains unclear exactly how many people were impacted by the floods. And some polls are now open in Maine, one of four states holding primaries today. Voters will decide who will go head to head. in a race that could decide which party controls the Senate. Graham Plattiner is essentially running unopposed after his primary rival, Governor Janet Mills, suspended her campaign. But here's the thing, she's still on the ballot and votes for her will still count.

Platner is seeking to overcome a wave of scandal, including claims of knowingly getting a Nazi tattoo and allegations of inappropriate behavior with past girlfriends. All of which he has denied. Democrats are wondering if his past will derail their chances to unseat Republican Susan Collins in November.

U

I don't like it, but if he votes the way I want him to and he can defeat Susan Collins, yeah, I'll go for it. No, the truth is is the Nazi tattoo should have been enough. If his wife can deal with that, who am I to argue?

N

The problems that are facing Maine and this country are too serious. For us. to focus on this purity politics kinda stuff.

T

We're definitely voting for him. Okay. I honestly I would vote for a doorknob over Susan Collins.

B

Joining me now, Jamie Harrison, former chair of the former Democratic National Committee. Jamie, thank you so much for being here. I wanted you to be here because this race has gotten so much attention. Platiner was recruited by people who weren't the Democratic Party, right?

And now we've seen a lot of questions as a result. The Wall Street Journal actually interviewed the people who recruited him and they said, Did you vet this guy? What questions did you ask? Wha how do you feel about with the controversies now? Here's how they replied.

A

Yeah.

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I think if what the voters wanted were people who were grown in vats and had never done or said anything that they might regret their entire lives. We'd have a very different country. Part of our thesis here is that people do not want their candidates grown in bath. They want people who are real human beings and they want people who do not look and sound like the background people who've been leading this country off a cliff for the last century. And that was Graham.

B

What side of the argument are you on here?

J

Uh my apologies for being in this little small uh phone booth and American Airlines lounge, Audie, but listen The the the bottom line is this. I supported Governor Janet Mills because I thought she was the strongest candid in the race. And I can tell you if I were voting in Maine today, she would still get my vote. Um but

B

Can you address the argument that they're saying? Like they you're we're seeing this more and more. Mamdani is a great example. People who are entering and they don't enter with the permission, so to speak, of the DNC or anyone from any formal organization.

J

Well, but this is the thing. When you when you don't go through the the regular process, then you get problems and issues like we have now. folks who aren't properly vetted, folks whose backgrounds have a lot of issues and problems in it that that jeopardize whether or not you win in the general election. I get and understand the frustration of going through the the party filter sometimes. I I I totally get that as someone who's been a state party chair and the national chair.

But it but there's a s a level of quality checks that that that when you go through that process, you understand what you are getting in the end instead of this wild card. Um and then you know there are folks who are hand-wringing and trying to figure out how they support the candidate or not. In the end of the day. uh you know, uh Graham Plattner becomes the nominee because the Mayners uh in the Democratic primary vote for him. This will be a contest between Graham Plattner and Susan Collins.

Know what we get with Susan Collins. Her legacy is tied to Supreme Court confirmation.

B

heard a a voter say that they'd rather vote for a doorknob than ju Collins. So y you don't have to to sell it on election day. Um, but it is seen as one of um a pickup opportunity. You said you're a supporter of Mills. She suspended her campaign, but she's not All the way gone, right? Like not formally withdrawn. Here's what she told um the Portland Press.

Um and I think she was saying that people have the impression that I withdrew or dropped out, but I simply suspended active campaigning and I'm still on the ballot. So then Senator John Fetterman weighs in on why he thinks she may not be connecting with voters.

P

She was a setting she's the sitting governor uh in gr in upstanding as a as a committed Democrat, you know, and seems like the only thing wrong with her is she happens to be seventy eight. So

B

He's talking about age as a factor. Can you talk about whether or not people do you think will be writing her in today or will be checking her name off since she's still on the ballot? Or is that wishful thinking?

J

No, I think people would. I mean if I were voting in Maine today, that's who I would be voting for as well. Um and and that's a the problem that I have with some parts of of the Democratic Party at this point. It it is, you know, they can look past every other flaw but age. Right? I if if you if you're an older Democrat, then that that is the fundamental flaw that everything else breaks down.

But in the end of the day, what people want is uh somebody who's going to fight for them, regardless of their age, someone who has experience who can be effective in terms of uh legislators. Uh and Janet Mills has that proven record and it's a shame uh that that you know, the chattering class was all in

for someone who has all these flaws and we knew it from from the start. But in the end, again, you know, r regardless of what the what happens in this primary, it's about the general election. And it's Collins and likely Grand Platz.

B

Thank you for being on. This is a fascinating race, especially since it was voters right in polling who put Platinum so far ahead and I'm gonna be interested to see what kind of uh lessons Democrats. Jamie, thank you for your time. Good luck catching your flight. And tonight at eight Eastern, CNN has live coverage of some of these key primaries across the country. And you can watch them on CNN or on the CNN app.

California Election Anomalies and Voter Rolls

In California, former reality star Spencer Pratt is out in the Los Angeles mayoral election. The CNN decision desk projects that Nithya Rahman will advance to the general election to take on incumbent Karen Bass. In the governor's race, the CNN decision desk projects that Democrat Javier Becerra will advance to November. Republican Steve Hilton is holding a lead for second. California's elections often take days to get resolved because postmarked mail in ballots.

received up to a week after Election Day can still be counted. Again, as long as they are postmarked on Election Day. This has fueled President Trump's claims that the California elections are rigged. There is no evidence provided for that. Stephen Hilton told CNN's Aaron Burnett last night, that's not what he's seeing.

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We've got teams standing by, lawyers standing by, and actually it's the same answer that actually I've been giving for a few days now. We've seen nothing that would give us cause to intervene in that way.

B

I want to bring it back to the group chat. We've got this sort of thing where again you've got the leading Republican in the statewide race saying, I actually think it's going pretty well, probably because he's second. Um but we also saw Trump blow up at Christian Welsker uh at NBC for getting specifically on this issue, which is crazy considering they were talking about Iran and a variety of other things.

Why do you think this issue has captured the imagination, especially on the right? Like why are people looking at these two races and saying, aha, indicative of nationwide problems?

F

Well I think it's it's fair skepticism for voters to look at a place like Los Angeles, for example. And you see that on election night, Spencer Pratt was up by about eight to ten points. And when you went to bed, he was up by eight to ten points the next morning.

B

Percentage of vote counted being twenty eight percent. Just as a reporter, we're not looking at the full.

F

Sure. So so traditionally Americans for decades have expected to receive results on election night. That has not been the same for probably the past six years, really, with COVID starting, people began to expect a delay in results. But for a lot of Americans, they expect results on election night. And I think that there are Americans who say, look,

A week after this election, a week after Nithya Rahman, she gave a speech that even C-SPAN characterized as a concession speech. She almost publicly dismissed any possibility for a path forward. So you put that into play. And then you see all these ballot drops, which tended to favor Nithya Raman even over Karen Bess, especially when Nithya Raman actually underperformed in her own city council district.

I do think it's fair for people just to say a week later, suddenly the guy who was in second place on the night of the election, there are some.

B

Let me bring in because someone who's run a mayoral race and may have some thoughts about why you give a concession speech when there's only X amount of percentage of the ballots counted. Was that a mistake? Um can you c talk about the dynamics at play here?

V

The way it works in California is very different than than a lot of other states, the way you can mail in ballots. And one thing we see in California is the ballots that come in later tend to be democratic ballots.

B

Yeah. But then so why wouldn't rather be like, Hey everyone, chill

V

it was strange. I thought it was strange that she gave that kind of a speech as opposed to uh let's all wait and see. I I think she missed the mark and probably got you know, I think it's look, election night is crazy and if you're not winning Uh clearly you just want it to end and be over.

K

I this is what I thought. I thought the narrative got to her.

V

Yes.

K

That's what happened. I think th the narrative of perhaps this Spencer Spencer Pratt being someone that people were really excited about, and it's usually those who can't vote for mayor in LA because I I I I

B

Yes, he was the Internet's mayor for a week. Exactly. Exactly. On our hearts with uh vigorous use of AI. When I look at the LA voter breakdown, he was winning errors. You're talking about West Side Pacific Palisades, which makes sense. He was fighting for their issue around um rebuilding after the fires. You've got Karen Bass getting south of LA, south of Santa Monica Freeway, Nithia Robin, Echo Park, Hollywood.

to Highland Park. The reason why it yeah it makes sense out my California here. I think the reason why I wanted to ask is because we're in this weird situation now where we're like, oh this heavily democratic city went to Democrats. Scandal. Skepticism. You know what I mean? And I feel like when I look at the Texas race, I'm not like there should be bigger numbers here for the DSA. It's like, well, it kinda is breaking down the way the overall voter rules break down.

V

And it's interesting for the president to be kind of so, you know, animated, to put it mildly.

A

about

V

The mayor's race, when in the g governor's race, you're probably most likely gonna have a Republican and a Democrat.

K

Which is why Hilton's like, It's fine to me.

B

Exactly.

K

Yeah, everything looks good here.

B

Um how will people I just want to give the last word to you, Brianna, because you are bringing this up. We're in a moment where you've got several states fighting Trump and fighting his DOJ on having to turn over their voter rolls. The administration has a new initiative where they say, look, state. We want everybody's unredacted voter rolls, names, birth dates, all the things. We're going to check it against a database we have. And there are some states who are saying yes.

And some states that are like, wait, that's not legal. Under the Constitution, states deal with voter rolls. Is his talking about California really about this fight?

F

Well I I think so. And actually when it comes to voter rolls so under HAV and HAVA, which are two thousand one and two thousand four election federal election laws, um states do have to comply with federal election voter roll audits. California is one of those states in a sense

I am not going to comply. And I do think there is reason for people to question California's audit roles. For example, in California, um you're supposed to provide your driver's license identification number and your social security number when registering to vote, which neither one of them necessarily guarantees a check citizenship, but it's a pretty decent check.

But in California, if you are unable to provide either of those documents, you can actually provide proof of identity to register to vote with something as simple as a gym membership.

B

Yet so far they have not reported widespread f fraud when they've done that.

F

Right, but they're also not letting the federal government check their audits. So I think that's a concern that people have

B

Absolutely. And I think the reason why I'm not addressing it now is because it's before the courts. Actively asking whether or not the government has the right to act.

O

Ask for it.

B

and the extent of information they do and to use that to check against a database with known flaws, right? Because then you're kicking people off the rolls based on a database that isn't working so well. So this story is not going to go away, even though it sounds like

Hunter Biden's Public Comeback Strategy

It's just about California's uh races. Next on CNN this morning, Hunter Biden has been out talking a lot. And now he's really clapping back. We're gonna ask why, why now? Plus there's this.

Y

But we can't afford it. We can't we'd rather stay home and just watch a game.

B

Staggering prices, the ugly cost of the beautiful game.

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Hunter Biden, my guy. A natural-born poster. A beacon of light in a dark world.

G

Hunter Biden is proof that you can't hurt somebody's feelings if they are 100% honest about who they are.

K

When they go on We go hunter Biden. And I will not be explaining any further.

A

Yeah.

B

I can't do better than that. Hunter Biden has entered the chat. The son of the former president Joe Biden has become the clap back king online after reactivating his ex account. His posts are a mix of political attacks, hitting back at critics. personal reflection and addressing his past addictions and controversies.

W

I know there're gonna be a lot of haters, a lot of trolls, a lot of people saying really, really awful uh things, but I've heard it all before. It doesn't even faze me. I promise you. I know who I am. I know what I've done. I know the amends that I need to make.

B

Hunter's reshaping of his image comes at the same time his stepmother, former First Lady Jill Biden, is getting mixed reviews from her post-White House memoir, where she shares her view of the 2024 election. Some Democrats say it's reopening old political wounds. I don't know who to start with here. Carrie, who actually went aww when you were watching that or Christine. He has more doubts. More doubts. Why do people have political comeback? Um like where are they effective, where are they not?

V

Well, when you're Hunter Biden and your father had to, you know, pardon you for everything you may ever think do or possibly have done. Comeback is should not be in your vocabulary. Keep your head down, hope that people forget. That should be

T

The second

V

But as a Democrat w I as a Democrat I do not need Hunter Biden out there reminding

K

Oh no, I told I totally disagree with that. And I think it goes very much to what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about what was going on in Maine. I think people really enjoy the fact that he is so authentic, almost to the point where it's embarrassing. And yes, he is reopening probably perhaps some new wound old wounds, but he's saying so what?

This is what it is. What do you do when someone you say, you know what, you really are a horrible human? You're right, I am. There's no response to that. Like, and I'm not saying that he's a horrible.

B

Although that lady wasn't

K

Yeah, she was to write.

B

Compliment I've ever heard. Yeah. Um so you said no Democrats want him back, but I can think of some people do. Yeah. Um this is Hunter Biden on the Candace Owens podcast. Oh.

W

But they had a problem with me as being this emblematic uh emblem of corruption. These guys, okay. got the single largest loan guarantee from the Department of Defense ever handed out of over six hundred million dollars for an energy company, a fusion energy company, of which he has zero. Zero.

A

Experience it.

B

Brian, I think it's interesting that he is relitigating some of these issues. direct into the lifeblood of the media ecosystem on the right. He's not going to any random place, right? He's going to Candace Owens, who's in the middle of a massive brawl, so to speak, with TP USA. He's talking about Epstein. He's talking about things that this particular world of people agree with him on.

F

Well I I I think first of all, I think Hunter Biden coming back into the limelight, this is a way to kind of sanitize the public image of himself that I think he himself had tarnished for

B

Why would Candace Owens say that?

F

Well Candace Owens has been platforming people that have spewed stuff that is egregiously false and controversial and insulting to a lot of people, and I don't think she's someone that should be platformed. Um so I'm not gonna take any

uh attempted to take this interview with a grain of salt. I think when it comes to Hunter Biden, I will say uh something that appeals to younger people is that level of honesty. You know, he said, look, if those were my drugs to the White House, you think I'd leave them there? And it's very reminiscent of when Charlie Sheen had

B

I'm interested.

F

He was like, if there are drugs in the house, I'm gonna find them. That was Charlie Sheen years ago, and that's kind of become an internet meme. So I think Hunter Biden is trying to re-establish himself and maybe in part because he does see himself as needing some kind of online um support base in order to have a future career. He think he said he's opening a podcast a substack soon. Okay. So he wants to bar

B

I don't know. Okay, well next you're gonna say he has a body.

F

Barner that that big one.

B

You think it's laying the ground for something else? This is like the Serena Williams Olympics uh thesis over

K

And by the way, he's not even managing our expectations. He's letting us know that people are he's going to be that problematic fave, as they say. Yes. And people will enjoy it and they'll go to him and they're like, I don't know why I enjoy it, but I simply do.

World Cup Prices and American History

B

Okay, I wanna turn to our group chat. Um because in mine are all the family in the uh Cornish hen WhatsApp group. They're not loving these World Cup prices. It's a problem. They are very unhappy. Before we get to yours, what's the deal? Like, are people just gonna have to suck it up or is FIFA creating a long term engendering frustration.

K

No, I think uh and I I I hate to even bring up, you know, game three last night. Those prices were astronomically ridiculous. I a and let me tell you, uh just side note, spurs This is what the Spurs have done. They have seasoned ticket holders who have these these courtside seats and they've been reselling them on the second market to secondary market to other players, other other people like the Knicks.

The Spurs have revoked those memberships and revoked those season ticket holders because they want to give them they're making a point here. Look, this is ridiculous. The prices are out of control. There are things we can do. There are things you can do, but for the most part, we're just gonna if you really wanna see it, this is every so often, it's here. People are gonna pay. People have saved up all the you have no choice. I know.

B

It's what the market were bare. Okay. Christine, what's in your group chat?

V

Uh the list weekend, Thursday and Friday actually of last week, I went to the two kickoff concerts for the Bruce Springsteen Center for American Music.

B

Bruce Wayne Team has a museum?

V

Yes, it just opened at Mammoth University down the shore in Jersey and it's obviously about him, but more broadly it's about the history of American music. And this concert was fascinating because they went from the Revolutionary War

K

Spring.

B

This is presidential life?

U

happening here.

V

Kind of like the footer was uplifting and it

B

Okay, I'll take it. I'll take a timeline cleanse. Brianna, what are you thinking about what's going on in the group chat?

F

Well, she put up the revolution. My family knows. Um I bog them every single day with history stuff and this week is very important. America two fifty. Um Robert E. Lee had introduced uh Richard Henry Lee had introduced a motion just on June eighth, which said that the colony should call for independence.

And this next week you will see the committee of five appointed on June 11th, Thursday, which is when Thomas Jefferson was assigned to write the Declaration of Independence. And then we'll see in about two and a half weeks from now they actually vote on that declaration on July 2nd. So I've been reminding A whole every I my parents know about it every day.

B

Also I've been trying to find ways to celebrate the two fifty that are not from the government. Like they have ways to look into your own history and share that with family and friends. What are you thinking about?

K

Well, I I was uh this wasn't in my group chat, but since she said it, for two fifty anniversary, uh a group of friends uh we have decided to write our own declaration of independence.

B

Oh, I love it.

K

And it's a group of us, a a large group rather. And we all have decided, let me tell you what I am independent of. And so mine has been, just as a black woman here in the United States of America, I remove the mask of trying to fit into something that I can't fit into. And I write down all the different things that I'm declaring for myself. And it's more of a affirmation so that I know that I can push forward. And all of us have done something like that. Something where we've Yeah, where we...

B

And also if you write it on a scroll In the Bruce Springs team. Of American.

V

History.

Episode Wrap-up and Podcast Promos

B

You guys are a fantastic group. So glad to be with you. Thank you for waking up with us. We have plenty more headlines, so please stick around. I'm Audie Cornish and you're gonna be listening to uh CNC News Central next.

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C

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R

I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta, host of the Chasing Life Podcast. Despite representing half the population, women get overlooked when it comes to their health. Who knows a lot about this issue and is trying to do something about it? Melinda French Gates.

M

I founded Pivotal Ventures to really focus on women and families in the US and now I'm really including in We have underfunded and under resourced

B

Searched. Yeah.

M

The medical community assumed the male body as the default

K

Body.

M

And then we would take medications and say, okay, we'll take it down by a certain amount of a dosage for a woman. That's just not true. A woman's body is very different than a man's.

R

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