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CMO Confidential

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Wonder what it's like to control millions of dollars of marketing budget? Manage hundreds of people? Make the decisions on which ideas get to market?

The CMO Confidential podcast shares how it feels to be in that chair of the shortest-tenured position on the C-suite.

We detail the long, hard road most ideas take to get to market & how challenging it is to get the best ones through.

Hosted by Mike Linton -- the former P&G Brand Manager who went on to be the Chief Marketing Officer of Best Buy, eBay, and Farmers Insurance, as well as the Chief Revenue Officer of Ancestry.com and the head marketer at Remington -- this show serves as an ongoing lesson plan for how to get, do, keep, and handle the pressures of the CMO job.



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Episodes

Jon Davids | CEO, Influicity | The Synthetic Influencer - Should Brands Do It Themselves? |

A CMO Confidential Interview with Jon Davids, founder and CEO of Influicity and author of Marketing Superpowers. Jon discusses the idea of creating your own influencers in a marketplace where communities matter more than ever. Key topics include: the synthetic influencer as a natural evolution from Colonel Sanders, Toucan Sam, and Tony the Tiger; the ability of an artificial character to do whatever is required; the AI personalization potential; and the fact that synthetics don't engage in contr...

Dec 03, 202428 minEp. 95

Jim Stengel | Former P&G CMO |A Top Marketer Riffs on What It Takes to be a Successful CMO

A CMO Confidential interview with Jim Stengel, the former CMO of P&G, author, podcast host, professor, and CEO of the Jim Stengel Company. Jim discusses how marketing has evolved from "awareness" to "entertainment and attention," the need for constant innovation and creativity, and why your purpose should be directed at making consumer's day-to-day lives better. Key topics include why CMO is 90% Chief and 10% Marketing, team measurement and compensation, and the big differences between the p...

Nov 26, 202434 minEp. 94

Chris Andrew | CEO Scrunch AI | Is Your New Best Customer an AI BOT - Welcome to the New Frontier

A CMO Confidential Interview with Chris Andrew, the CEO and Co-Founder of Scrunch AI and former Chief Product Officer of Hearsay. Chris shares his thoughts on how AI will dramatically alter customer purchase patterns and why marketers should be thinking about how to win "BOT engagement." Key topics include: why he believes consumer consideration and use of websites could collapse over time; his belief that brands should be building content which serves as "raw material" for AI; and tips for meas...

Nov 19, 202433 minEp. 93

Tom Stein | Chairman, Stein IAS | The Inherent B2B Marketing Problem & What to Do About It

A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Stein, the Chairman & Chief Brand Officer of Stein IAS, a leading global B2B agency. Tom shares his thoughts on why we are in "The B2B Decade," the underleveraged power of many B2B brands, and how organization structures are often in the way of good marketing. Key topics include: why so many B2B companies default to the "3 yards and a cloud of dust" plays seen in football circa 1960; the power of linking brand, performance marketing and sales functions; ...

Nov 12, 202435 minEp. 92

Jason Radisson | New CMOs at the Inflection Point – Tips for the Hard Situations | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential interview with Jason Radisson, CEO of Movo, former Regional GM at Uber and Marketer at Caesars Entertainment. Jason shares his thoughts on how to approach inflection points like declining sales, a change of control, or company pivot -- and the importance of focusing on the outcome you have to deliver to move the business forward. Key topics include: how to quickly get the math you need; how to reset strategy if the math says the strategy is wrong; the difference between market...

Nov 04, 202435 minEp. 91

Jean English | Big Tech & B2B Marketing-What You Need to Know | Juniper Networks | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Jean English, CMO of Juniper Networks, formerly the CMO of Armis, Palo Alto Networks and NetApp. Jean describes the ongoing digital transformation journey, how the "Infrastructure Layer" works and why it's so important to marketers, and why Marketing and IT should be BFF's. Key topics include: the forces driving tech consolidation; a 3-part process to integrate AI into your team; and key questions to ask during a marketing interview with a tech company. Tune in ...

Oct 29, 202434 minEp. 90

Joyce Kim | Report From the Front Lines of Cybersecurity & What It Means for Marketers | Zscaler

A CMO Confidential Interview with Joyce Kim, CMO of cloud cybersecurity company Zscaler. In this highly informative and conversational interview, Joyce describes the ongoing race between companies and the innovative onslaught of bad actors, the concept of "Zero Trust," and how marketers can be good partners with their Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs). Key topics include: what to do if you have a breach; why marketers are often on the front lines of cyber; and questions she asks during...

Oct 22, 202433 minEp. 89

The Digital Ad Industry is Built on the Wrong Principles & Other Things That Make You Go Hmmm

A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Goodwin, author, speaker, and former head of innovation at Publicis, Zenith and Havas. Tom makes the case that much of today's marketing spending is wasted on a "playbook of precision" where everything can be attributed and all customers can be micro-targeted. Key topics include: why branding in the AI Age is more important than ever; why claiming performance marketing success may not represent actual success; and his belief that advertising and brand buildi...

Oct 15, 202435 minEp. 88

Scott Griffiths | Primer on the Marketing CFO - Why it Might Be Right for You | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Scott Griffiths, CFO of the Affiliati Network, formerly the Marketing CFO at Farmers and VP at Countrywide. Scott discusses how marketing and finance can get into a self fulfilling doom loop by avoiding hard discussions, what it takes to be a good Marketing CFO, and his belief that it is important to recognize the true leaders versus solid performers. Key topics include: how to manage your built in bias for certain marketing components, why Marketing CFO's need ...

Oct 08, 202435 minEp. 87

Seth Matlins |Why is Marketing in a Perpetual State of Chaos? | CMO Confidential | Forbes CMO Network

A CMO Confidential Interview with Seth Matlins, Managing Director of the Forbes CMO Network, formerly Head of Cultural Strategy and Insights at Endeavor, Global CMO of Live Nation, President of Rock the Vote and Founder of CAA Marketing. Seth discusses why he thinks the media is overhyping the drama around the CMO position, the CEO misperception that they understand marketing because they have been marketed to, and the difference between "dull truths and exciting lies." Key topics include: how e...

Oct 01, 202432 minEp. 86

Matt Carey |Home Depot | The Marketing Interface With Tech, IT, AI and CX - An Acronym Feast! | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Matt Carey, EVP Customer Experience and CIO at Home Depot, formerly the SVP and CTO at both eBay and Wal-Mart. Matt discusses how the majority of customer experience is provided by tech, why you shouldn't buy "tech for tech's sake," and why marketers should always "know precisely what problem they want to solve" when interfacing with IT. Key topics include: why you should always have use cases for the MarTech stack; why microscopic measures are important; and pr...

Sep 24, 202429 minEp. 85

Michael Treff | CMO Confidential | Using AI for Anticipation vs. Reaction - An Agency Perspective

A CMO Confidential Interview with Michael Treff, the CEO of Code + Theory, a growing 2000 person agency which combines engineers and creatives. Michael discusses how AI combines new factors and current data to anticipate consumer behavior, why AI represents "change management for humans," and how his agency is writing AI into job descriptions. Key topics include: why money saved with AI efficiency should be invested in customer innovation; how thinking B2B is different puts creativity in a box; ...

Sep 17, 202432 minEp. 84

Kim Whitler | A Marketing Potpourri - CMO Stages, Activism Research and Name Image & Likeness(NIL)

A CMO Confidential Interview with Kim Whitler, business professor at the University of Virginia and former GM and CMO. Kim joins us to discuss how start-ups require different CMO's at the various stages starting with seed money and ending with an IPO, how good intentions can jeopardize business success on the corporate activism front, and how to think about NIL from the perspective of marketers and athletes. Key topics include: why blue chip CMO's often fail when they move to the start-up world;...

Sep 10, 202436 minEp. 83

Daniel McCarthy | CMO Confidential | The Rise & Fall of Peloton as Seen Through the Eyes of CLTV

A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Dan McCarthy, Professor of Marketing at Maryland. Dan uses a customer lifetime value (CLTV) analysis to show how Peloton's pursuit of growth after a very successful launch negatively impacted its financials and cratered its stock price, leaving its future uncertain. Key decision points include: misreading Covid trends as a permanent demand shift; price decreases which backfired; the importance of cohort analysis and churn rates; and the unintended consequenc...

Aug 27, 202436 minEp. 82

Karna Crawford | CMO Confidential | The Customer Loyalty Crisis & What to Do About It

A CMO Confidential Interview with Karna Crawford, CMO of Marqeta, formerly SVP at JPMorgan Chase, and Head of US Marketing at Ford. Karna discusses how a number of factors have created more "promiscuous customers," the challenge of constantly delivering against rising value expectations, and why the marketplace has left many companies behind in the loyalty race. Key topics include: how companies become overly focused on acquisition and ignore churn; how the core principles of loyalty apply to bo...

Aug 20, 202433 minEp. 81

Kate Bullis | CMO Confidential | A Top Search Executive's View of Tech, Marketing & the Marketplace

A CMO Confidential Interview with Kate Bullis, Global Marketing Practice Leader and Managing Director at ZRG Partners. Kate discusses the "growth renaissance" occuring in tech, B2B, and Private Equity where marketing is emerging as a growth driver, why companies in transition often look for new talent, and "what a difference maker" great marketers are to companies. Key topics include: why diversity of skills on boards is important; why many companies are moving away from pattern matching and pla...

Aug 13, 202434 minEp. 80

How to Collaborate With Non-Believers Panel |Association of National Advertisers | CMO Confidential

In a new twist for CMO Confidential, host Mike Linton moderates a panel for The Association of National Advertisers on Industry Thought Leadership. Unlock the secrets to collaborating with non-believers in marketing with insights from top CMOs and executives! 🎥 In this engaging panel discussion, moderated by Mike Linton, host of the CMO Confidential Podcast, we bring together industry leaders Jeff Lowe, Chief Commercial Officer at Smart Technologies, Roula Nassar, Chief Financial Officer at Sma...

Aug 06, 202436 minEp. 79

What Your Team Wants to Tell You But Won't | Leesa Eichberger Amanda Reierson | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Leesa Eichberger, Former CMO of Jenny Craig & Ring Central and Amanda Reierson, former CMO of Avant and Head of Marketing at Thumbtack. We all worked together at Farmers Insurance. Amanda and Leesa discuss tips for evaluating "communication health," what to do in a company that doesn't like bad news, and how to manage a situation where you think your boss is making an error. Key topics include: why you should always have next steps and a solution; understand...

Jul 30, 202431 minEp. 78

The CMO As Connective Tissue - A Top Search Executive's Perspective on the Position | Peri Hansen

This episode is brought to you by CMO Confidential Title Sponsor Props. Visit them at Props.co A CMO Confidential Interview with Peri Hansen, Leader CMO Practice and Sector Leader Consumer Products at Korn Ferry. Peri discusses why she thinks it's the most important and exciting time to be a CMO, how marketers need to "connect" sales, IT and other functions with their go-to-market strategy and why "marketing structure" is a hot board issue. Key topics include: why people development is more impo...

Jul 23, 202430 minEp. 76

A Marketer Turned Tech Exec Talks About Big Data, Mainframes & AI | Phil Buckellew| CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Phil Buckallew, a former brand manager who spent 23 years as a General Manager at IBM and is now the President of Infrastructure and Mainframes at Rocket. Phil discusses why it is so challenging to move mainframe data to the cloud, the cyber security race, why digital transformation is "still a thing," and his career change from consumer goods to technology. Key topics include: why you probably don't need to train your own generative AI model; tips for selecting...

Jul 16, 202440 minEp. 74

An Influencer Primer - How to Avoid Potholes on The Yellow Brick Road |Jon Davids | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential interview with Jon Davids, founder and CEO of Influicity and author of Marketing Superpowers. Jon discusses how communities can help build brands, the difference between "audience and community", and best practices in selecting and evaluating influencers. Key topics include: why influencers make sense in a "splintering" marketplace, how communities are particularly suited to B2B, why you should "never fall in love" with an influencer, and the difference between "rented" versus...

Jul 09, 202433 minEp. 73

Marketing Valuation | The Battle Between Believers and Non-Believers Part 3 | Greg Silverman

A CMO Confidential Interview with Greg Silverman, the Interbrand Global Director, Brand Economics who also founded Concentric, a sales forecasting company. Greg discusses a recent Interbrand study with Wall Street analysts on how brands influence share price in which 75% of analysts look at brand power as a key variable though nearly all admit they don't understand it. Key topics include: why marketers should meet with analysts and get close to their Investment Relations team; how getting your b...

Jun 25, 202429 minEp. 72

Must Marketing Always Start From Scratch - The Quest to End the Snowflake Problem | Jonathan Knowles

A CMO Confidential Interview with Jonathan Knowles, former CMO of Nupremis, Senior Strategist at Wolff Olins and Founder of Type 2 Consulting. Jonathan discusses ANA-sponsored research into why so many CMO's have to start from zero when defining their objectives and KPIs with the C-Suite. A categorization of over 500 marketing papers identified 6 approaches to marketing - Product, Brand, CLTV, ABM, Employee, and Performance - all with the objective of profitable growth. Key topics include: why i...

Jun 18, 202431 minEp. 71

What Your CFO Wants to Tell You But Won't | Scott Lindquist | CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Scott Lindquist, CFO for CNA Financial Corp, former CFO of Farmers Insurance and PwC Partner. Scott discusses the wide variety of CFO's, why insurance became a marketing hothouse, the importance of marketing math, and how to manage the Marketing CFO position. Key topics include: how investing in brands is a leap of faith; tips for presenting to boards, why he viewed himself as the "Chief Fun Officer;" and why he believes brands matter. Tune in to hear a great di...

Jun 11, 202432 minEp. 70

An Update From the the B2B Marketing Front Lines | Carilu Dietrich

CMO Confidential correspondent Carilu Deitrich, former CMO and hypergrowth advisor who helped take Atlassian public, joins us for the 4th time to talk about the ongoing challenge in the B2B space. Carilu discusses why business growth is slow for everything but AI and cybersecurity, and her belief that many players are fatigued after a long drive to improve efficiency during what she calls a "B2B Tech Recession." Key topics include: her obsession with sales; why "without a data strategy, you can'...

Jun 04, 202430 minEp. 69

A Consultant Turns Professor Discusses the B-School Curriculum | Lynne Segall |

A CMO Confidential Interview with Lynne Segall, Associate Dean at the Goizueta Business School at Emory University, formerly the Director of Talent and Organization Offering Development at Accenture. Lynne discusses the importance of students learning technical and theoretical skills along with the "harder to teach" softer skills like "how to get stuff done," the differences between Millennials and Gen Z, and why core conceptual classes still matter. Key topics include: why experiential learning...

May 21, 202436 minEp. 68

What Marketers Talk About Behind Closed Doors | The Artificial Intelligence Edition | Babs Rangaiah

In this episode, "What Marketers Talk About Behind Closed Doors | The Artificial Intelligence Edition," host Mike Linton, a five-time CMO, sits down with the illustrious Babs Rangaiah. Babs, the founder of CCBabs and a CMO Coach, delves deep into the pressing issues keeping today's marketers awake at night. Key topics include the impact of artificial intelligence on marketing strategies, the transformation of data and martech in a post-cookie world, and the evolving media landscape with platform...

May 14, 202438 minEp. 67

Is Artificial Intelligence An Extinction Event For Marketing Agencies | Paul Roetzer |

A CMO Confidential Interview with Paul Roetzer, Founder of the Marketing AI Institute and author of Marketing Artificial Intelligence. Paul discusses the rapid growth of the AI business, early impacts on agencies and marketing organizations, why you should be careful using AI with customer interactions, and how things will evolve to handle a "string of actions" versus specific tasks. Key topics include: why you should create an "AI Council" to stay on top of current and future innovations; why h...

May 07, 202435 minEp. 66

Are Business Schools Preparing Marketers for the Real World? | Mike Kitz | CMO Confidential |

A CMO Confidential interview with Mike Kitz, Notre Dame Professor, former CMO of Office Max and P&G Brand Manager. Mike discusses the best ways to optimize your in school experience, why the abundance of marketing data may be crowding out long-term thinking, and the importance of learning "integration skills." Key topics include: the value of leadership and influencing skills; why presentation skills matter; and why "curiosity" is one of the best predictors of success. Tune in to hear how he...

Apr 30, 202428 minEp. 65

Tales From the Marketing Crypt - A Recovering CMO Tells All | Maryam Banikaraim | CMO Confidential |

A CMO Confidential Interview with Maryam Banikarim, Managing Director of Most Powerful Women + Brainstorm Tech at Fortune, formerly the CMO of Hyatt Hotels, Nextdoor, Gannett, NBCU, and Univision. Maryam discusses what it's like to be a company's first chief marketing person, how to bring a boss who doesn't know marketing along, bridging the generational digital divide, and how tech really doesn't believe in marketing. Key topics include: why you should say yes to hard things; looking for "clues...

Apr 23, 202438 minEp. 64
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