What is going on, everybody? Welcome to Thursday Night CrossFit Talk with Scott and Jamie. As you can see, brand new opening, same old song because we're never getting rid of the theme song. I couldn't see it. Oh, my gosh. I know. I'm so mad. I was trying to find the play. Nothing. Nothing was available. I kept my mouth shut. Jamie and her technical issues. I'm going back to the phone, dang it. That worked better.
what is up kenneth holly jody lex sarah great to have you all here tonight um kenneth says new intro is popping and attention grabbing acr just jumped in the chat I got to tell you acr this is just for you um I've learned today that live from daryl's house if you don't know what that is it's daryl hall from hollow notes has a show where he has a barn, invites musicians out, and I watched the whole Johnny Resnick episode again today. They're now available on YouTube, so you can check those out.
And I was thinking of you, ACR, since you and I did that Goo Goo Dolls top five, and it is freaking awesome. You should check it out. So we always start with some goofy TV stuff because we're in the off season before shit gets real. So right now, we were just about to finish season two of Reacher last week. Did you? Oh my gosh, Kenneth. I know. What the heck, Kenneth? The greatest duo in the history of rock and roll. That's what that is. So we were about to finish Reacher season two.
Did you, did you, did you finish it? I finished it. We watched it yesterday, Tuesday night. Finally. Um, I, it was good and I am like, they wrapped it up good, but I still think I like season one better. I've come to the realization they're just two different, they're just two different entities. They both have a different vibe and I like the vibe in both at different times. Um, And so I'm excited to see where they go with season three because there is going to be one apparently.
But yeah, this one was total, and even the first one, total 80s action movie hero throwback. And I loved every bit of the ending. Yeah. Yeah, the ending was good. They wrapped it up really good. I was really happy with it. Yeah, so season three has been confirmed. They're already filming it. They're filming in Maine.
and um it's off of book seven of lee child persuader so I actually think I'm gonna get it and read it because I haven't I didn't read the other books I don't know if you did I did not yeah I love I love reading and I i always prefer books over movies whatnot so I think I'm gonna get this book soon and read it and have an idea have an idea so I love books over movies too and so generally if I know I'm gonna watch the movie I don't read the book because it'll just ruin it for me It probably will.
It's all right. I cannot stand the Harry Potter movies. Cannot stand them. Yeah. Yeah. Cause the books are so much better. Yeah. Agreed. Grisham stuff. The books are so much better. Um, yeah. Yeah. So, and they've confirmed, obviously Reacher's in it and Neely is in it and that's it. We, we, if we're lucky we'll get a cameo kind of like we did with the one officer. I always call him the tweet tornado. Yes. Yes. But, and I, cause I can't remember his last name. I know.
I can't think of it right now either. Yeah. So I wanted, so last week I got you turned on to welcome to Rexham. And you told me before we went on the air that you have binge watched both season and Yes. And you were done with Welcome to Wrexham. Yeah, we got through the whole darn thing. It does not help anything that Aaron is still off work because of his heel. Because I feel like that's what we do is like sit here and binge TV if I'm not at the gym.
So yeah, we got through all two seasons of Welcome to Wrexham. All 36 episodes. Yeah, a ton. I was like, this needs to hurry up. This needs to hurry up. But yeah, I was like addicted. It was incredible.
And you're in... if you are at all a fan of ryan reynolds like you're gonna love it his yeah his humor throughout is just awesome yeah and if you if you like a good underdog story like unreal so Lex is asking is anyone watching True Detective so I watched the first season of True Detective and it was weird and wacky and I loved it I could not get through season two so I stopped watching them but I've heard that this season is really really good and every season is a completely different story
with completely different characters so my wife just started it So now it's like, do I want to watch it alone or let her like have me catch up? Yeah. So we got to figure that out. Oh boy. Don't get me turned on to another one. I don't need any other shows to binge. Yeah. Andrew says it's funny that Ryan and Rob were not really close friends before buying that team. Yeah. They had never met. It sounds like Rob just kind of like DM dry in and they're like so close now and it's so cute. It is.
And that both families are all involved and that both are married to stars in their own right. Yeah, for me, I honestly found it. I know you have this at the end, but like for me watching Welcome to Wrexham, everything going on with the Lions right now, I like I felt like it was like. a synchro story.
Like, like you, you feel as the way they're talking about the town and the way that team has been knocked out, like bottle, you know, a little bit different, obviously like lines were never going to get knocked out of the NFL. So you're safe there, but like, yeah, we were like the worst team in the league for years. I mean, it's been 30 years since we've even had a shot. So like, In seeing grown men cry in the stands, which happened at both the last two games for the Lions, it's like milestones.
I just had that feeling that whole time. It's just like our town. It's just like watching my team. There's also history lessons, like the mining accident that happened in Wrexham. Like that, that episode blew me away and how the aristocrats kind of just let it be. Yeah. So, um, yeah. I'm very excited to see the remodel that they do on that stadium and how they, like, they just, they're doing such a wonderful job.
Now I'm tied into a soccer team that I never thought, and I'm not a big soccer fan, but I'm very, very like wrapped into this team and seeing how they do and continue on. Lex is asking, what am I drinking? It is actually a nitro cold brew. So yeah. That is what I am drinking. Frost? Paper Street? I'm out of frost. So I had to go with a local store variety, but it's a zero sugar flavored one. Oh, nice. So it is actually Mackinaw Fudge Nitro Cold Brew, zero calories. That sounds amazing.
It's really good. And it does taste like chocolate milk. What's up, Corey? A little bit. Not fully chocolate milk. It has a coffee flavor to it still. But, yeah. Well, good. You want that. All right. I was going to say that I was watching a couple goofy shows recently. If you, this is the dumbest show in the world, but I got hooked. It's called the spicy, super hot, the spicy world of pepper people. Okay. And it's about the mission to make the world's hottest pepper. It is crazy. It is stupid.
It is what these people do to their bodies is insane. So they grow peppers and then they eat them? So it's the whole gambit of these pepper people. Some are growers. Some compete in eating challenges. Yeah. So they have like a league where round one, everybody has to eat a pepper. And if you don't throw up or drink milk, you move on to round two. And then it keeps going up 10 rounds. And the 10th round is speed. You have to eat like six peppers the fastest.
it is so and there there's a guy named joey scoville who goes around like tasting all these peppers to determine if it's in the running for the hottest so he's going to like pittsburgh and texas and louisiana and all this crazy stuff tasting peppers so uh it was it it's so stupid but julie and I are like five episodes in Yeah, that's crazy. I'll have to have my cousin check that out. He that he will eat the spiciest things. I just don't understand it. Yeah, crazy. So we'll move on to.
I pretended to like peppers when I first started dating Lex and she would make me meals. I am a no for peppers now. Yeah. That's a, you gotta just speak up from the get go. I, my brother-in-law did the same thing when he was dating my sister, they went out and he's too nice. And so he like said he liked mush. They had gotten, somebody had gotten pizza. He said he didn't mind mushrooms or liked them.
So everyone gave him their mushrooms and now, and then for like a while year, he got stuck eating mushrooms all the time. People would like order them extra.
it took a while for him to speak up and be like no I actually don't like mushrooms I just was being kind um so yeah lesson learned so sarah asks am I still going to christie's gym yes yes I am was just talking about that we were um alexis carolyn is a phony she doesn't like veggies All right, let's get into a little bit of CrossFit talk now that we have started the show off with our goofy TV talk and randomness.
The CrossFit HQ announced they have appointed a CrossFit affiliate council this week. And I'm going to share the post so you can see that. So there's the new affiliate council. I'm gonna go through the names. It starts with Austin giving like an explanation of it all. And then these are the people that have been selected. Zia Rorbaugh. She is from Encitas, California, CrossFit Counterculture. Miquel Boutillion. But tell him something like that. It is France names France with CrossFit names.
Trying to do my best French accent. Craig Howard Diablo CrossFit Pleasant Hill, California. Gavin Heselton CrossFit Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom. Ian Barbour CrossFit Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom. Joshua Plusker, CrossFit Invictus Back Bay, Boston, Massachusetts, Jason Kalipa, NC CrossFit, and NorCal CrossFit, Bay Area, California. And that is the group. That is the group. So already Carolyn says, why two from the same affiliate? Well, I have a question. Why three from California?
Yeah, that too. So you have Kalipa Howard and the first one, a roar bar, all from California. You have Boston represented. So some East coast three from the West.
two from the same in the uk we have none from australia none from south america south america is where we're growing the most australia is a major player in crossfit affiliates and they have none and none from the midwest so and this this in no way changes the regional representatives that are throughout the country that are holding these um affiliate summits and things like that those were still and those are still in play okay so I don't understand what all this is about that's what I'm yeah
it's like yeah I mean I guess we could listen to austin you want to listen to austin yeah what does he got to say that are organically receiving inbound, that are doing strong work within our community, that have a strong voice, that are able to hold us accountable, that are interested and invested in the growth of CrossFit, but will give us a perspective that we may not have internally.
and a really important voice for us when we do things, for one, for them to hold us honest, to give us feedback, but also to help the community as well. Communication's been a struggle for us, but we also know that our affiliates listen to each other really well. Sometimes, you gotta look to your left, look to your right, and say, we got this. If there's an opportunity to learn, we want to take it. And we look at that.
The affiliate council is an opportunity to learn, to listen and to make sure that we measure twice before we cut. We need a group of affiliate owners. Okay. So what, what was the affiliate reps that we already have? Is that not what this is? I'm confused. So this is a committee that will just be, um, in, uh, Let me get this. This is a committee that would like just be kind of hanging out at HQ, I guess. Getting input about or I don't know. I don't know.
It seems duplicative from the regional affiliate. Yeah. And I don't think while I liked Austin saying communication has been a problem for us. Some of the shortcomings, it just doesn't, it seems duplicative to me. We already have a group of affiliate owners who are representing CrossFit as middlemen, middlewomen. And I don't get why this is needed. So Andrew says the affiliate reps work for CrossFit and these are just affiliate owners. Yes. I can maybe get behind that.
I can see that a little bit. Okay, I see that too. But they are affiliate owners as well. Yeah, right. Well, Andrew Charles is an owner. Yes, he is an owner. Yeah. Yeah. I would think most of them are. I really can't imagine that there's any. Chase Ingram is an affiliate owner. Yep. Well, I think he still owns CrossFit. Isn't it CrossFit? Big D or whatever. He's in Dallas, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, unless things have changed. I thought that they were.
Because our affiliate rep used to be Dale King. He is definitely an affiliate owner. And then it turned into Andrew Charlesworth. Andrew says Chase sold it last year. I do think I remember Chase selling his gym. But he was. So yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I guess you do want current box owners who aren't necessarily in CrossFit's back pocket speaking up, maybe getting different communication so yeah okay all right I stand corrected that's why we have a great chat that can help us fill in the spaces and help us understand better that's why you guys are the best So I talked about this a little bit on the Monday show, but this is something you and I have talked about a ton.
So I wanted to bring it up here and get your, uh, and Corey really wanted to be picked. I guess. Corey, do you own an affiliate? No. I think that's the key qualification that you're missing here, buddy. um so the online judging team yes there was an announcement uh barbell spin broke the news that there you could become an online judge duplicative is a word jody it is I feel like I think you're thinking duplicitous no I don't know okay It's all in legal stuff when I was doing research.
He goes to an affiliate. He's overqualified. So anyway, judging. They are putting together a team to do online judging of team quarterfinals, individual quarterfinals, age group quarterfinals, age group semifinals. Those are all the things that we wanted online judging to help with. Yeah. And they're going to pay these judges to help them do some of the online judging. The only requirement is that you pass the 2024 CrossFit Judges course.
However, having a current CrossFit Level 1 certificate is highly recommended. Okay. Those who are accepted into online review team will be asked to review the video submissions from April 5th all the way through May 19th. Sorry, I had to sneeze. So your thoughts? I mean... I still don't understand why they don't just have it open sourced. It's a step. Sure. But like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't, Are you going to read us the definition? I was just putting it up there for everybody to see.
Duplicative. Adjective. Involving duplication, especially unnecessary repetition of effort or resources. Done the same way more than once. Effectively identical. Duplicative. Makes sense. Like duplicating. Got it. Andrew, they did not mention the open or quarters. Yes, quarters. They did mention quarters. Yeah. Not the open. I don't think they're going to do anything about the open. They're just going to let the chips fall where they may. Love you too, Jody. Always keeping me in check.
I would bet... Pretty good money that they probably won't pick Hiller. Oh, they will not pick Hiller. I mean, really? I wonder how many people they didn't even say. So my question to you is, will they be able to say, we have staffing issues and can't get to them? Right, right. That excuse should be out the window now, right? It should be. Andrew, that's what I, you can't open source quarters and summits. They should allow the public to thumbs up or down open videos. That, yes.
I think they should allow the public to thumbs up or thumbs down all videos, all stages. It's a blind leaderboard is what he's getting at. And if you put the videos out there, it's no longer blind. Yeah, but they're not finalizing the leaderboard the day it unlocks anyway. Right, but if I'm athlete A, I can go out and search B, C, D, and E and see how they did. Yeah, sure. And then I can redo the workout if I want to.
Yeah, if you want to spend that much time and that much obsessing over trying to think about everyone in your bracket and search videos forums, I guess, spend that energy. I mean, my videos have, people could have done that to me all along. My videos are always up. Right. But that's your choice. It's a blind leaderboard. Right. I know. Choose that. They don't want that. Then you would make them that choice.
Who is going to seriously take the time to go search every athlete's name and see if they have videos out? Come on. Then they probably won't post it or they'll post it private or whatever until the day. If you cared that much, you would keep your video private. It can stay a blind until, until the final day and then open it up. And that's when videos are there for review. And everyone will just realize that it's going to take an extra week.
This is a quote from Andrew Hiller, according to WAD Zombie. I'm just kidding. I don't know. This is true. Hopin and Brian Friend would. Yeah. Power the videos and put together their own leaderboard. Yeah, they probably would. Yeah. So, or our own Holly, I'm sure she would do that in her spare time. You keep her busy enough. I don't know if she'd have spare time to search for all kinds of people's later videos. It's at least a step. It's a step in the right direction.
And that the judges get paid is really cool. Yeah, that's awesome. They're going to get so many requests. I mean. Did our guy get selected? I think he's just. Oh, yeah. Do you already know you're selected? How quickly are they coming that up? uh holly says don't tempt me with a good time and her definition of a good time in mind are very different uh andrew says yes he's been selected I would I would think almost all of like the regular judging people would just be in if they applied.
And that's where, that's where I'm wondering how many, how many people are they even taking? Like they should have just said, we, you know, we only need a handful more. They're going to get thousands of applicants and they're going to take like 10. So Sarah, I agree with you. The open doesn't matter. Hiding a video in the open is stupid. That should be open sourced. It does matter in quarterfinals this year.
With the cut down to 80 athletes in North America and 40 athletes in Europe, it is a huge deal. And there are people that are going to try to game it and people that will want to block the gaming at the quarterfinal level. I did not. I have hung up my judging stopwatch for good. I'm too busy with media. That's true. Ain't got time for that. Nope. But I applaud all those who, who, uh, It was an open invitation. There was a link. I like, I could have signed up Andrew. It was an open invitation.
So I wanted to briefly talk about mic'd up athletes. Okay. So yesterday Savon released, uh, the mic'd up athletes from the team, part of water Palooza. Okay. I think there is something there. Oh, it's going to be great. I'm so excited to see that. The disappointing part is the weather affected it too, right? Okay. You're not going to wear mics in a torrential downpour or a swim event. Right. So it limits how much it could actually be used.
But there is at this point an authenticity that you don't get – There's nothing just you get because nobody's asking them the questions. They're just talking. Yeah. Right. And they're talking with other athletes and they're talking with other coaches. And so it made it. very genuine. And there is a part where they might Mike, the popper on the 5k run. And they just kind of animated the run, like where they were on the spot.
And you would hear, you didn't see him say anything, but you heard what he said and where he kind of was at on the trail. Okay. And they would put like a head, like he kept saying, I got to, I got to track down Noah. I got to track down Noah. And they'd have like a little Noah head ahead of him on the track. Right. Like I just passed Tola and he would pass. And I thought that was like freaking amazing. That's awesome. Shoot. That's the only coverage we have from that event. Right.
The animated heads running on the trail. Um, and I do think that there is definitely something to this that needs to be captured more. Yeah. It's just a shame that it rains so much. Um, So like in the rain one, they did get some commentary after and then went and as they were commentating on it afterwards, showed clips of how it was happening on the floor. Like Ricky having no grip on the doll, dollamer mat and slipping and sliding on the wall walks. Like it was, it's really good.
It's really good. I would almost put it above behind the scenes because I could see that. When do us normies get to see it? One week? One week out? Not a clue. All right. I'll stand by. But it does appear that it took the place of a behind-the-scenes release yesterday. I'm excited to hear the cold one. Yeah, that one will be good. Well, maybe. I don't know. He's not a talker. So how much is he going to talk? I don't know. He seems to be talking a whole lot more now than he ever did. One week.
One week for normies, Jamie. Okay. I'll sit and wait. I'll patiently wait for it. Well, speaking of Colton, we talked about him joining Proven. But I found out his coach is Joey Tutoro. Yeah. That's not what I thought he was going there. I mean, I thought he was going there because he liked Taylor's husband. Yeah, I thought so too. Carolyn says, yeah, he seems way more outspoken than he used to be. Joey Tutoro is from Columbus, Ohio. Okay.
He owned CrossFit Grandview, which was Bill Henniger's gym, original gym that he sold to Joey and Graham Holmberg. And then Graham split off and Joey owned it for a while. He then, his wife is a doctor, so he moved to Philadelphia for her and was on Team OBX the last couple seasons with Kelsey Keel and Amia Lumberg, Ashley Wozni the year before that. So I think it's a great fit. He is... He was a smaller athlete his entire career. Not like short, like Colton.
Not that Joey's tall, but not short, but he was like smaller, like you. Like a spieler? No, gosh. Just slighter built. Like strength is not his strength. Yeah, so kind of like spieler or just not that small. Not that small. Okay. No. Um, but he had to overcome a lot to get to where he got to. So I think he understands Colton and I think it's going to be a great fit and I'm super excited for it. Yeah. I mean, I will be curious to see, I don't know Colton like well at all.
So I've not like no ideas. He had type a personality. Is he, is he super like controlling like, I'm curious. And when you've done this for so long yourself, it's going to be really hard to hand over that control and trust in somebody else that they're going to get it right. And like, I mean, is he going to train and then go out with pigs all day and then be like in his mind, just like, I didn't do this. I should have done this. I need to go.
Like, is he going to, is he going to be able to just let it go and trust somebody? And, and cause that's the whole point is to take his mind off of some of that stuff and stress and, and, So I think that knowing Joey, that it'll be more collaborative. Okay. Like, I don't, I don't view Joey as a, this is your, what you're doing and you better do it. Yeah. It's going to be more of a collaborative kind of build. I mean, and Colton's been doing something right. Right. Like, right.
I'm very curious to see. Sometimes it's helpful to have somebody, someone's outside perspective and be like, you know, let's focus on this for a bit or try this. Maybe something different that you don't necessarily think of. Well, he said he's been doing Kilo 2 programming. I know. And it's just not at a level that he needs right now. Right. So I think it's more than just... I don't, yeah.
I think he just needs someone helping him with some of the light lifting of like programming the week out, doing those types of things and taking that off his shoulders. Yeah. Well, good for him. Does this Joey guy have other athletes? So he competed last year at the games. Okay. On OBX. So I think he just moved to Proven.
Now, he was an individual athlete, like early teams, and then has been primarily a team competitor since then with CrossFit Grandview for many years, and then OBX when he moved to Philly. But he's always been the captain of the teams. And my guess is he's been the one doing the programming for the team. So I think that got his feet wet. Plus he owned an affiliate free ever. Yeah. So, um, but yeah, I didn't even know he moved to proven.
I'm reaching out to some of the people there to kind of get an update as to what's going on, have them on the show, talk about their new facility. That would be awesome. Yeah. Speaking of guests coming up, just checking real quick, see if I got... It looks like we're going to have Adrian Bosman on Monday morning. Don't quote me yet. look for it. We're, we're just trying to iron out a time. I think we have it.
I just need Adrian's thumbs up and then I'll get the thumbnail made and put up, but we should have Boz on the show Monday morning ish. So I want you to talk about, and you, you can do it in a, in a way that doesn't disclose the competition, but you, um, but you reached out to a competition and asked them the prize purse question, because we talked about legends forever that, well, they didn't say there was a prize purse. And then, so you, before signing up for this competition, ask the question.
Yeah. I mean, that, that is my biggest thing. Like, I was really frustrated with some of the commentary back about the legends, people saying, well, they never said there was a prize purse. So that got me thinking, how often is it published? I feel like other than like Wadapalooza and the games, you don't really see the number. You just know that they pay because they've always paid.
And so I'm like, well, what is the... what, I mean, especially when there's a lot of different divisions, you know, when you have an RX masters, team, team masters, you know, like literally like 10 different categories, like I, I can't imagine you're paying for every category. Um, so like, is there really any prizes?
Um, and like just browsing, looking for any type of hint at like what the podium prizes might be or what divisions are even gonna get anything um and there was like literally nothing I could find anywhere um you look at like last pic last year's pictures you see some stuff um like you see a barbell in people's hands cool like that's not nothing I mean and and I totally get it they may not these comps may not always have stuff ironed out but like I just feel like You can't tell us that they
didn't say that there was a prize purse, so you shouldn't have expected one. And then, on the other hand, these comps also can't
drill down their... They're waiting probably for... people to sign up see who's coming then maybe they get other sponsors and or maybe more money because so-and-so is coming um and so like they don't want to put in writing exactly what it is because and this kind of it sounds like they want to do as much as they can and so they're they're trying their hardest to keep growing it and keep getting more money and making the prize purse bigger um but you know they were really they were like
basically to me it sounds like just elite which is totally fine I just wish that that was published somewhere just say elite gets paid t tbd whatever it is elite will be paid amount to be determined closer to the bracket um and then that way like masters know that there's no prize purse t and I'm I'm actually curious at this one if teams get paid like I have no idea on that either um but I just feel like if you if you think you're going to put together a prize purse if there's going to
be some swag like You've got a Yeti cooler bag and shoes or a barbell or, like, write that stuff. Like, some of that stuff, like, my gym could use a barbell if I have a shot at something like that. It could be enticing if it's a close enough comp. So, yeah, it's just – it's super – Yes, Denise. We've always gotten paid at Legends. It's never been advertised. It was obviously assumed from all of us athletes who have been going to Legends that there would continue to be a prize purse.
And so, yeah, I don't know. Well, one thing I just want to clear up. You reached out to a competition, asked if there was a prize purse. They said yes, depending on the division. Yep. That's what I said. Yes. Yes. Depending on the division, I think was their response, but they never confirmed what it was or what divisions. Correct. Correct. So they did respond. And I don't know if you've seen it.
They did respond back when I, when I said, I basically wrote back and was just like, I didn't say, you know, masters have been screwed in the past. I'm just trying to make a clarification. They knew who I was clear, like clearly with their response. Um, And they were like, I get it. I get you want to know. We don't know, basically, is what they said. And they made it clear that the master's prize is the entry fee to Legends. And I get that. And that's fine.
And I'm sure there's people that want to go to this comp to get that place. and paid for that's, that's a good price. Um, I don't, at this point, I don't want to go back to, like, I don't want to go there and earn a spot to legends to probably not get paid again. Like, you know, like that's not even, that's, that's just not where I'm at. Like, um, so yeah, But they did. They responded to me very kindly, very, very thorough. It was probably like a three-paragraph response.
It was a great response. I totally got where they're coming from. They totally got where I'm coming from. I just think there should be some level of communication. Just say that in your communication. Masters are getting the entry fee. Elites will be paid TBD and general swag for all of our other Or, or, or intermediate gets nothing or whatever it is. I mean, just make it clear. Denise Moore says, I was quite surprised that last year's legends, that individuals got nothing yet.
The teams in our X divisions got backpacks. That's Denise. That's what had me like thinking for sure we were getting something is because I did know that teams and scaled or whoever was there got some stuff, like got a bag, got some swag stuff. Like, and I was like, oh, well they got something. And so I was like, well, we'll for sure get something. We're not going to be like the empty handed ones. So I don't know. I was, I was very, very surprised.
So still two TBD on the prizes for masters at different comps. We'll have to see how that plays out over the upcoming season. I just don't know how any athletes are deciding where, where to go if they don't know like what they're going for, like what they're aiming for. I'm with you. I'm in your corner. So yesterday, yeah, on Coffee Pods and Wads game show around the whiteboard, John Young was a contestant. He said something on there that blew me away as a way for events to make money.
And what it was was that you sell merchandise for the event that people might want to have. So do like other sports do like the NFL, how, like if you're not playing and you're on the sidelines, you're outfitted in different gear from that team that you can is available for sale on the website to get immediately. Make it so that when you check in, you have to be wearing the shirt. From the competition. So that all those videos going out shows that merchandise being worn by the athletes.
And then it will make it a hotter item that people will want to have because they saw Emily Roth wear it or they saw Jeff Adler wear it or whatever. And I thought it was brilliant. So lightweight. Kind of like if Rogue were to put their baseball jerseys on sale or their Crocs. Well, they did put their Crocs on sale, right? But put them on sale beforehand so you can also show up with the same gear. Yeah, exactly. And maybe market it a little bit before the event. Be prepared for it. Yeah. Right?
So market it like, hey, if you're coming to Wadapalooza, here's our official Wadapalooza shirt. Get it now to So you could be sporting the official water Palooza shirt as you're walking in. I think the Jersey sales they tried to do last year would have been really cool. Except for like when I, the two I ordered, I got four months after water Palooza. Ooh, that's not good. So I think rogue is a great example.
Those baseball jerseys just, you know, the, the athletes get them with their names on the back, but you get it to just says rogue on the back. Like they do that in college football where like, I don't know, Kirk Cousins is playing for Michigan state and you're a big Kirk Cousins fan and he's number eight. I don't even know what his number was up there. Um, but you got one that said Michigan state on the back with a number eight. Yeah. Right. But the same Jersey. So trying to make it relatable.
Um, so anyway, I thought that was really cool, but then the owner of go wad and Vicky from Australia kind of poo pooed his idea. And while it may not be the game changer that saves the world, it's thinking outside the box from what we've been doing. And I think he deserves credit for that. What didn't they like about the idea? I think they just didn't think it was make would make enough money. Kenneth, the tier jerseys that you're referencing, that's what I got four months after the event.
So tier was the title sponsor last year at Wadapalooza too? So see the Emily Rolfe jersey? Yeah. That's the tier Wadapalooza jersey. I just got it four months after Wadapalooza. Yeah, that sucks.
so I i just wanted to give john young credit I thought that was very out of the box thinking for how to like make some money with merchandise for an event I see carolyn carolyn saying the question on the show was whether crossfit could do it without sponsors it was a crossfit events CrossFit putting an event on and not get in that, like not CrossFit the entity, but it could be what a Palooza rogue. Okay. Could events survive without sponsorships, but it dove off a little bit in the answers.
And regardless of this was to make it survive, it was a great idea to make a little more money on merchandise than you typically would. The other thing though, I don't know is if tears are kind of sponsored, do they get all the money? Right. I don't know, but maybe that can be negotiated in.
I mean, I would assume that if tear bet, put up a number, if they want to donate 500,000 and they, sell a hundred thousand dollars worth of shirts then they really only have to put up four hundred thousand I guess I don't know how that would look I think holly sums it up for me it would make some money and get some extra attention at least yeah not you know because you're gonna sell them out so it's not like any extra cost to you you put up in a couple of IG ads saying,
Hey, check out these shirts. They're going to be at the event. Yeah. I mean, you could almost do it as a presale only essentially. And whatever gets, whatever gets sold gets made and that's it. And then you don't make, you don't make a bunch and you don't bring them to the event. You don't have to have a vendor there. You don't have to have all those supplies there. Like, Do it. Just put it out there. Sell what you can. And sometimes that... Okay. We're going to dive into an ugly hole.
Okay. So Carolyn says, I still don't know why T or CrossFit Noble don't have shirts with athletes' names on them on their site. Athletes get a kickback too. What really baffles my mind is when you go to the Rogue Invitational, Rogue... doesn't have all their shirts made and out on display you can get them made fresh right there they have a press that makes the shirt at Rogue it's done in like 30 seconds you get your shirt and you get to move on.
Why can't you have the prints of, of athletes and you're only putting it on the shirt that someone wants. You're making it right then and there 30 seconds done, boom, hand it to him, sell it. And you're only using up the shirts that are being sold. Right. And the only thing you might be out of is a couple of screen prints that That didn't get used. So I don't know why that doesn't happen. Why it took four months for me to get shirts after Waterpalooza when I ordered them two months before.
It should not take six months to get a shirt. It should not. We are well aware we've got people in this game, in the shirt game, that will do shirts and on time and I don't know. Everybody wears, if you follow sports, you wear jerseys. I agree with Carolyn. They should be on the game site all year round with athletes' name on them. I agree. Maybe Go Ruck will, I don't know, maybe Go Ruck will pick up on something like that. I don't, that never seemed to be Noble's thing.
Like, they had their eight athletes that they wanted to showcase and that was it. I don't think they were ever going to pick up other athletes. I think you probably could get their, their eight athletes stuff all the time. Rad had a handheld printer at Wadapalooza to do your own tote bag with. Yeah. It's not hard people. It sounds like it makes too much sense. Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to, you know, keep pushing it on a go rock, maybe come up with something like that.
So now that I've praised John Young for his great idea, we're going to talk about what else he did last night. Just briefly. Okay. And that is his infatuation with topography. Okay. And if you're going to challenge me on that word, No, I got the word. Okay. Talking to Judy or whoever's going to try to call me out. So he loves his mountains. He loves his base camps. He loves his canyons. He loves his cliffs. So we're going to talk briefly about Comeback Canyon.
Okay. And I'm going to try to share my screen. And I don't want to, it was a great idea. He generates so much interest on this. Yeah. You know, I applaud him for that. And it gives us something to talk about. So I screenshot come back Canyon. It's beautiful. So what this is supposed to represent is. It's people who can climb their way up out of the canyon. The further down the canyon they are, the higher, the harder the climb is supposed to be. I don't know.
I'm not even going to talk about Luka Jukic because I didn't understand what he was talking about him being up there. I don't understand why he's on this thing. And his explanation made no sense to me about that. But I did want to point out, he said that Ricky Garrard was the tallest because he got hurt last year, didn't make the games, and he's going to go from not making it to possibly podiuming or winning the CrossFit Games. So that's the biggest comeback.
That's why he's at the bottom of the canyon, and it would be the biggest comeback. His definition, just telling you what he said. Okay. Okay. But my immediate point was, well, why wouldn't Tia be right there beside him? Totally agree. She didn't make the games last year. She sure as hell has as much a chance to win the CrossFit Games as Ricky Garrard does. And to me, that's just as big a comeback. Yes. She should be number one.
My other point to this is there needs to be a place for Saxon Pancheck. If Brooks on their Saxon should be on there. He got hurt at semifinals. Yeah. And did not make it back to the games last year. He is a perennial top 10 athlete. There is no reason to think he, he's still mid twenties. There's no reason to think he can't climb up out of that and be back in a top 10 position next year. I agree. So I, Two big misses on my opinion. The other one is Jacqueline Dahlstrom.
She has shown nothing that tells me she's going to make it back to the games. Her off-season comps, and I love Jacqueline. She's been on the show like two or three times. She's awesome. Always talk to her at events, but her performance at Dubai was not great. She did not just barely miss going to the games at the European semifinals. She was like 18th. Yeah. So for her to be up there that it's just a small comeback, not sure about that. Yeah, there's a few on here.
I agree with Luca. We talked about that a little bit. And Ken says swap out Luca for Fusile. I could see that. I'd like that swap. If you put Fusil, yeah. I'd like to see Annika somewhere on here. Well, she's not coming back from anything because she never made it. Gotcha. Oh, he's trying. Okay, he's saying past games athletes. Gotcha. But I would swap out Rebecca for Dahlstrom. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know. There's some interesting picks here. So there's that.
I then wanted to go to his cliff. There we go. How is Spiegel in the canyon and on the cliff? I don't get it. So his explanation was that he could easily see her make it back to the games and be on the comeback Canyon. He could just as easily see her not make the games and then decide that her CrossFit career is over. Okay. So, and so the Canyon is you're done. You're out and can't be, I mean, there's people are not done. And is that you're going to come back. The cliff is your careers.
You're going to drop. And again, John's explanation. So it's his picks. It doesn't make sense. Okay, so he thinks Ariel is going to drop from her position, not be out of the games, but he's saying Spiegel's down here because she's done and her career is just over. Those are two very separate levels of... Very much. And I think he separated them as like, The three on the left. But he said, I think he even said Kerstetter wouldn't make the games.
Okay. That he was not impressed with her Wadapalooza performance. It's the offseason. Yeah. A lot can change in three months. Ariel won't get third again. I'm not going to counter out on anything. You just never know with programming what it's going to be. Right. So, but just dropping a place, I don't think should put you on a cliff. Yeah. Even dropping like five, six places. Like, I mean, I don't, yeah, that's not a, that's not a cliff.
Like you aren't just dropping off the face of this mountain. A clock says, didn't he say that a Spiegel misses this year? She's never getting back. She fell off the cliff and is done. I think he said that in a way that also said that she would make that choice not to compete again. Like, that she didn't need all this mess. She'll go do her other stuff and leave this behind. Ariel is very well-rounded. I agree. I don't think Ariel should be on this list.
I will tell you who should be on this list. And I hate being negative, but Jamie Simmons... She can't get through an event anymore. Right. She just keeps getting hurt. And it's not that she's not a great athlete or wasn't a great athlete. Her body is just compromised now. She tried to do an event this weekend and could not finish. Yep. So I would substitute Jamie for Ariel. The other one is Alex Caron, I think should be on this list more than Alex Vigneault.
Agree. Alex Vigneault always comes up with what he needs to come up with to just be the perennial games athlete. I don't see him falling off from that. I don't see him getting worse than that. Caron's peck is not going to let him compete. Yeah, I think he's done. And he's at a spot in his career where it is probably the end until he would decide to go to Masters or something. So I would replace Alex Vigneault with Alex Caron.
The only explanation I could see from John is that maybe Caron is already off the cliff. I could see that. Nick Matthew, everybody's picking on him right now because he's just posting heavyweights. But it's the offseason. Like, people aren't dialed in yet. Yeah. Let's see what he looks like. I looked at a video of either you or I interviewing him at semis. Like, dude's ripped. Yeah. This is January. It doesn't matter till May. Yeah. I mean, you don't want them peaked now.
If they look too good now, we may have a problem. Yeah. So just wanted to kind of go over that. I do think what John is doing is fun. The, it gives us something to talk about, right? Yeah. Um, so I thank him for that. Uh, it's a very creative way of looking at it too. And my mouse is, there we go. So the last thing I had on my list was you're going into the weekend with a chance for your football team to go to the super bowl. I know a team.
the only nfc team to never go to a super bowl and how old are the lions old old yeah they've been around for all of the super bowls yep yes and they've made none of them yeah I know and now they're standing on the doorstep carolyn that's so mean So what do you think your chances are this weekend? I'd like to think good. Like, I mean, they, I don't know. Like, I know you just can't get your hopes up too high as a Lions fan. You just can't. Like, is it what? Oh, he is. Aaron saying Laporte is out.
Like that's not good. Breaking news from Aaron Latimer. I thought he would. I thought, I mean, everything I keep reading is like it hit the bone. Bruce feels better each day. He can pivot. So I don't know. I'll have to look for news on that. They picked the, one of the refs that they picked is not good. 4-0. It's not about the refs. Yes, it is. 4-0 for the Niners. 1-5 for the Lions. So, not good. And we have a history with refs just not in our favor. But, yeah.
I think more importantly is if Debo plays this weekend for the Niners. If not, I think you have a great chance. Yeah. When you bring up the refs, I mean, if anyone watched that reporting call and you weren't a bit miffed, I don't know what game you were watching. Okay. X's and O's. I actually think the Lions have a shot. I think they have a good shot. I actually probably will pick them to win. Yeah, throw 20 bucks on them. But speaking of that and your excuses, I brought this up on Monday.
You know, we always rip the judges at different events and I am a really bad culprit about all that. And after watching the NFL this last weekend, those refs get paid and they're terrible. Yeah. When I watch hockey, I'm yelling at the TV. Yeah. When I'm watching baseball, there's bad calls. They have instant replay. They get paid. They are professionals. The Andrew Stens of the world are out there volunteering their ass off, and they're doing a pretty damn good job. I agree.
So I think we should cheers to the CrossFit judges for what you do out there Yeah. And you're just as good as every other professional sports league. Yeah. I saw a funny meme that was basically said it's Eminem versus Taylor Swift. Well, not yet. Well, if, if we get there, but yeah. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think the, uh, I don't think the chiefs are making it. You don't know. Interesting. I think, I think, you know, some seasons you just have these stories that line up.
Yeah. And I think that it's one Lamar Jackson gets to a super bowl. to kind of show that he is really a great quarterback and to the lions make a run. And maybe I watched way too much. Welcome to Rexham, but like, it just feels like the it's the lines here. It does feel that way. Um, I don't know who they have time. Show us. Oh, sure. Oh, interesting. I can get down. Yeah, it is. It is their time. It's much needed.
So, and you can tell they're like fighting for more than just themselves and their team, even like they're fighting for the city. They're like, they clearly, it's amazing to me. Like they post the decibel meter in the stands and, and the other teams have said that it's the loudest state. Like they can't, the other teams can't hear because our stadium is so loud. It's just incredible. It really is. And they're in my favorite team's division, so I'm supposed to hate them.
But I just feel like it's lining up for them. Fingers crossed. So, well, that's all I think I have. Do you have anything else to add for the week? Nope. I've got an in-house camp Saturday. In-house? In-house. Running an in-house camp just for our members. How many events? It'll be five events, six scores. One of them is like a double lift. Damn. A lift. I know. They got to go like every hour and 10 minutes. That's a long day.
Yeah. It's like they'll start at 10 and they'll be done by 3.30 if we run on time. Will any of them be able to walk on Sunday? Yeah. So myself, Veronica, Jim – and Haley, our new member, um, all tested and actually Lucas, my son tested them on Sunday. Oh, we tested all but one. So we, and we went like back, back, back, maybe 15, 20 minutes in between. Um, and we were all pretty fine on Monday.
Um, and Haley and I even like scale up the workouts and the heavier weight than the members will do and, or more reps. So Yeah, I think they'll be okay. It's not a ton of squatting. None of them know, so if any of them are watching, which I know some of them do tune in. Yeah, I don't know. We got like a cardio one, rowing and shuttles. That's the first one, just a little warm-up event. And then they'll lift, do some snatches, and a one-rep max clean.
And then a wall walk and jump rope one, like a progressive jump rope.
They'll go from single-unders to... double unders to crossovers a lot of our members can't really do the crossovers very well so they're nervous about that but it'll be fun just you know progressive move along see how far you can get yeah sounds great yeah we'll see how it goes they've been asking for something hopefully just get some keyed up for the open get a few of them we've got like 19 people doing it and seven more coming in and helping judging so it should be a good day yeah sounds fun
I hope you enjoy that. I'll take some video, put together a little reel, throw some clips up. Cool. Well, with that, everybody, thank you so much for being with us tonight. And we will be back next week for Thursday Night CrossFit Talk. You guys are the best. Thank you for being there. Bye, guys.