What is going on, everybody? Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Roundtable or Thursday lunch with the Clydesdale crew, whatever you want to call it. But it's Mamie and I today. Hopefully, we'll have the full crew back next week. But what's going on, Mamie? Not much. It's my off day for work and my off day for the gym. And I just had a massage. So, I mean, I do maintenance, body work, massages. But it was timely because yesterday I had a hell of a workout where I met Pukie.
Ooh. You don't usually puke. No, and it wasn't like I puked because I was working out so hard. It was that I got framlung from the workout, and then that made me, the coughing made me bleh. God. God. so yeah I uh I was kind of leafing through instagram and becky harsh who we know works crossfit hq did yesterday's crossfit.com workout and I was like that is an amy workout what was it and I will do it so it starts with you take your rucksack okay and you do uh forty shoulder to overhead No.
Ground overhead. Okay. Ground overhead. Okay. Your rucksack. Yeah. You rock a mile. Okay. Then you do it. Do you take the rucksack off and you do thirty ground overhead? Okay. Rock another mile. Do twenty ground overhead and finish with a mile. Yeah. She did it. She lives in Colorado. She did it as a hike. Yeah. Yeah. So she hiked through the mountains, came across deer. She filmed the whole thing. That's cool. You got to go watch it on Instagram.
And I was like, that is so Amy to go out into the woods and do like a rock with some shouldered overhead every mile. I love that. Yeah. I bet your shoulders were like, I bet they fire fire shoulders. Yeah. I just, I just thought it was like, I've got to tell her cause that is right up her alley. You're always looking for something to get outside. Literally in my car that I drive around with all the time is my weighted vest and my hiking shoes. They're already in the car.
Cause you never know when you just need to pop over and find a trail. And Murph can stare at you and no rep you. Oh my gosh. Seriously. Did you see his eyes in that video? Like, Lex is in the chat. She has two doodles that know rep her all the time. Yeah. I mean, they're so judgy. Yeah. Crazy. So if you do it this week, you'll have to tell us next week how it went. Okay. Yeah. But go check out Becky's post. Cause you'll, you'll love it. Like she's probably. Ten feet from deer. Yeah. I love that.
So. Yeah, that's pretty cool. nice well this weekend um one of our teammates carolyn prevo is going to be competing at crash crucible in spartanburg south carolina so we are rooting for carolyn that's quite a far travel it is yeah but it's such a well put together competition and the way jr howell um He uses so many different odd objects and so many different things that you don't get to see unless you're at the games.
So they have a sandbag pill, which is a very taut sandbag and no handles, and it's kind of rubberized. They have to do like a hundred thrusters with that. At what weight? I don't know exactly. I know you asked the details. Let me, I'll pull it up real quick. Wow. The workouts, where are the workouts? Okay. Let me share my Instagram screen. Carolyn just did high rocks. She did. Which one is, I think it's midline sadness. Maybe midline sadness. Of course. Nope, not that one.
They have all these like fancy schmancy. I don't know which event it is now. Let me go the other direction. I don't know what I'm doing. Okay, well. If Lex knows what that one is. Pilgatory. That's it. Duh. So it's fifty pill thrusters at a hundred and seventy. So a hundred for men. Yeah. Fifty chest of bars. Then a fifty meter pill lunge. Anyhow. Then fifty pill thrusters. So a hundred pill thrusters. Barf. Barf. What's the time cap there? I can't. Eighteen. Eighteen minutes.
Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of people have previewed this. We don't need to preview the event, but there's a lot of big names there. It's what I consider to be probably the top tier mid-major in the sport now. You know, if you're not Rogue or Waterpalooza or the games, like Crash Crucible is right there. is there, do you have to qualify to compete So if you are a games athlete, you may get an invite, but there is a qualifier.
And so there's a lot of the semifinalists that we have interviewed over the years are competing there, as well as Colton Mertens, Fisa Goffey, Carolyn Prevost, Sam Stewart, Chris Ibarra, Nick Matthew, Olivia Kerstetter, tons, tons of people. and it's going to be fun. Caroline Stanley, yeah, a lot of games athletes as well as a lot of, but they do the P scoring, or not P scoring, Z scoring, which is where in traditional scoring, you finish first, you get a hundred, second, ninety-four, whatever.
This one, if you finish way behind first place, you may get seventy-five points instead of ninety-four. they look at the gap between. Okay. Yeah. And so if you dominate an event, you can really get a lead. Nice. Um, I didn't like how it played out last year, but we'll give it another try this year. See if they need some tweaks and see what that looks like. And this year they've said they're going into the negative.
So if you are way back, you could actually get negative points for, um, for an event. Corey Leonard says it's pronounced like Pez. He just made that up, but tell everybody else what started as P scoring, it went to Z scoring. And so I get confused sometimes. Yeah. Oh, shoot. Yeah. I just heard on the TTT podcast from Max that they are going negative this year from Lydia Fish and Sam Stewart. But Lex says no. Maybe that, maybe not. Okay. So that was my source for the negative.
How about our boy, James Townsend? Yeah, so bad. So was he in a comp? Did that happen at a comp? Yeah. And he was away from home. Yeah. I knew that part, but I was like, I didn't know if he was just training with some people or if it was a comp. Yeah. So we had to get on a plane and come home, then have the surgery. I reached out to him yesterday, just sending him a message. And he responded back and just said, it's been a cloudy last couple of days, but thanks for the perspective.
And And that sort of thing. So he's such a good guy. I know his post was so sad. I know. That's why I was like, I need to, I want to send him some little love. I know I'm nobody to him, but I would want him to descend. And he, every time I message him about something, he always responds. Yeah. He's, he's really good. Yeah. When I interviewed him, he said he viewed himself as the people's coach. People had questions about how to do a lift. He would answer them.
He believed it was such a gift for him to be able to coach. He would coach anybody who asked. Yeah. Online or whatever. And so, yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. Sucks. I hated it. Well, with Corey in the chat, we've got to say he got an invite to Legends. Ooh! It's official. I guess those video reviewers agreed that his reps were legit. So he now has to learn how to swim. Okay. He did a swimming event at MFC last year. Not his best performance.
Hmm. So now he said he's getting a month's whatever membership to the YMCA so he can start working on his swimming. Yep. Maybe you should coach him up on swimming. I told him I wish I lived closer because I would. It's just tough when you can't see the person. Right. And videoing in a swimming pool isn't the best. Yeah. It's an odd idea. Yeah. So, but super happy for him. He put in so much work this year. Uh, it was good to see him make it to legends. So that's pretty awesome.
I mean, to get older and get better, that's pretty, it's pretty sweet. So props to you, Corey. Uh, I did want to highlight something Chad Schroeder did. I thought this was super cool. He put together top performances from the Masters and teens at the twenty twenty four CrossFit Games. And he also did it for the adaptive division too. And you can go to his LinkedIn account or not LinkedIn. It's on his LinkedIn. Yeah. Instagram. Go to the bio.
He has a link tree where it has all the different things that he's done. but he, um, and there's just an example. This is a list of the all first timers, all first timers to the games. Okay. And then like, he does a thing on Jason grub consecutive gold medal tied for second overall for most masters championships. The most to Susan Clark was six. And he just kind of explains everything down. Uh, Andrea Nistler being one of four CrossFit athletes with multiple division championships.
Rich Froning, Samantha Briggs, Lisa Mickelson, and Andrea Nistler are the only four to win in two different. So they've won team and Masters. Rich won individual team and Sam won individual Masters. So stuff like that. It's really interesting. I really appreciated everything he put in to this and really enjoyed reading it because like Will Morad, greatest margin of victory with eighty eight points ever in a Masters competition. So pretty good. Yeah, I love it.
But yeah, really fun to kind of read and wanted to highlight him because he put a lot of work into that and people should go check it out. So check out Chad Schroeder's Instagram account. It's in his link tree and he has adaptive teens and masters all listed. So cool. We got cat in the chat. So here's my question for you. So Rich Froning put out there that he thought the coolest idea for an in-house comp was to take the five best people from every class time.
And then on a Saturday, have an in-house comp because you never see each other. Yeah, yeah. So it's a way for everybody to kind of come together in a comp and cheer for your six a.m. class or your five a.m. class or your four thirty p.m. class and kind of cheer on the best athletes from each class. Thoughts? I like that idea. I like that it's a community event. And doing that, um, how are you measuring the fittest once just by what their scores are on beyond the whiteboard?
I mean, like I would have, or whatever their, their logging is and like over what period of time, like, how are you coming up with these five people? Leave it to you to, to go all into the details. I like details. I like the idea. I'm just saying that brings up questions for me. That's all. Um, yeah, I think, I don't know. Yeah. Because part of who I am, like in figuring out the details is I also, okay, sorry.
Um, part of the, that is, I also look at like, wow, I wonder if there's other people that will feel like, like borderline athletes that want to participate, but aren't yet. So I just, yeah, that's all. Yeah. And you know, if it's a lift, you may have a stronger athlete. If it's a gymnastics event, you may have, that may be a different group.
Like it would, it could be different throughout and you could even like have a team where you pick like the strongest person, the most gymnastics person, whatever. and hell you can make it whatever you want. You could have like the best scaled athlete, the best, whatever, and have different. So, but each class would have the same opportunity to, to fill that team. I don't know. I just, I thought it was an interesting concept because he's so right.
Like when you go to the four thirty PM class, you don't know the six PM class. You don't know the six AM class. You don't know the ten AM mother's class, right? Like, Yeah. But I guess I feel like that we kind of do that in the open. Yeah, I guess. But even that you can schedule times on Saturday morning or Friday night or right. This is like a one event. Yeah. One day everybody has to come at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is fun for sure. So, okay.
Yeah. Well, the only thing I've left is, um, talking elite fitness did a, an interview with Mitch Bragg from the PFAA. And you know, that's my favorite subject to talk about. I know. Um, And what's, I don't know why they do this. So they do. Pause for a second, pause for a second, because I would like to speak on what Elise just said here. Rich isn't worried about details. He'll have his crew work those out for him. Yes, I agree with you.
But what I would like to work on with that is I also feel like I'm going to say, I'm going to say it right here. And this it's about their programming because we've been using their programming. And while I like their programming, there are a number of, clerical and errors constantly that I feel like impact and that they send out a lot of their information and it's in all these different spaces and it's not like a streamlined way to send out those details.
So I wish they had a better system of communication and they were more concerned about the details because it does affect my daily life. So, sorry. I hear you. Yes. I value your input, but I think that that is not exclusive to mayhem. I don't disagree with you on that, but I think that if sometimes I wonder if Rich really knew as much as there are those challenges, if he could get things to tighten up or make some tweaks.
I just feel like, again, errors happen and things like that, but I think there's a level of professionalism and there's a level of when you are purchasing a product that if you're constantly having to remark on and point out where these errors are and challenges, that that's really frustrating. Jay Burch says, headed to Amarillo to judge it to eight Oh six classic. Rich is supposed to be there. Would you like for me to tell him?
I would like to talk to Darren myself sometimes just to be honest, just to be like, let's work on communication styles and see if we can tighten up how to clearly and effectively communicate. Elise says, please Jeff and record it. Okay. So back to the PFAA, my favorite subject. Okay. Sorry. So He was there at the tier cup. This was done at the tier cup. One of my frustrations with Talking Leaf Fitness is they release everything audio first. So this is on YouTube, but it's audio only.
So you can't see anything. And I don't know why that bothers me because usually I just let it play in the background anyway. But for some reason, a black screen bothers me. But they asked what their role was at the tier cup. And he said that they, that he and grace, their chief operating officer and some athletes not competing reviewed the programming and gave input on like positioning of kettlebells gave. And he gave a couple examples.
I find that that gets a little murky when you have athletes, even if they're not competing, looking at programming because of camps and friends and that it just gets to be like a weird line, but I'm not going to dwell on it. I think that whatever, that's fine.
He also did say that they had talked to about what their positionings were going forward, that they had talked to the top-thirty athletes, and they learned that not everybody is prepared to talk about what their wants and needs are publicly at this point. And one thing that just caught me is they've talked to the top-thirty athletes. Why just the top thirty? You've said on Brent and Pat have said on other shows there's a hundred and some members but only ninety voting members.
Now you're talking top thirty which if it's men and women you're talking sixty. But there were people that that didn't want to talk publicly. And I think what's happening though, is the more that they're ambiguous about all of this and the more the athletes keep coming out and saying they, they don't agree with what they're saying, like Saxon, like Ariel, then Chris Ibarra last night on the spin said that he was a rookie. He didn't really have much say in what they were doing.
I think like the more that that happens, the less impact they have as a representative of all athletes. They also said that they pressure test some of their ideas with sponsors. So if they have an idea of something they want to do, they're running it past some of the major sponsors to see if there will be kickback from them before they say it, which I'm going back and forth whether I think that's a good idea or a weird idea.
So I think I need to think on that a little bit more because I just listened to this maybe two hours ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I need to digest that more. He also said that they were called out by the organizers of NorCal for putting out the three demands. because they had made an agreement to partner with them on their swim event. And the organizer said to them, when you guys put out a statement like that, and we have published you as a partner, all of that then comes on to us.
It reflects on them. Yeah. And he admitted that they did not think about how that might affect people they partner with. Well, okay. That's kind of a big deal. Yeah. Um, he also kept bringing up all this, like a storyline season. So like week one, you have this and then week two, you have this and it just, it moves systematically.
And he doesn't mean like it has to happen every week, but like event one to event two to event three in a storyline fashion, um, And Tommy actually did a really good follow-up saying like, we all want a storyline season and that's been said for years, but saying it and doing it are two drastically different things. Right.
And he said, well, we're just trying to get things in motion so that if we can't go down this, we need And then it became a word salad where I just – I don't – I just jumbled words where I – he was saying stuff without saying anything. Yeah, yeah. But then the final thing I'm going to bring up from this is he said that they're actually in talks with events for next season. That if CrossFit does not make any move – by a certain time. And then they asked him about a timeline.
He didn't have one, but by, by a needed time that they, they will have an alternative season for athletes to go through. Okay. These other events. Alternative season. Okay. So. And season in, in quotes, because. Like, I don't think it would be a, hey, you qualify here to go to here. It would be events they could participate in to fill the season. Sure, sure. But the more they talk, the less I am encouraged that they're truly representing all the athletes. Mm-hmm.
And not that they don't have, not that some of these ideas aren't good, but like when, when Lauren and Tommy were asking follow-ups, they didn't have any more to the idea. It's, it's one thing to come up with the idea, but then there has to be a solution to get you to implementation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so right now they're just ideas, but there's not solutions to back that up. Yeah. And we had heard rumor last week that there would be the investigation completed and nothing this week so far.
No, and I just saw something that Carolyn Lambry posted, but I didn't read all the way through it. But just, I think she was part of, was she part of the, she contributed to part of the investigation or was that a different thing? So she's one of the coaches that work with the PFAA. Okay, yeah. So her and I know Justin Kotler are big in the PFAA. Mm-hmm. So I don't I didn't see what she posted. I can pull it up if you Yeah, let's do it. Let's pull it up. Right. Do you know which one it is?
It says time and it says October eighth mark the two month anniversary. of Lazar's death. Okay. This one? Yep. The day before that, I was speaking with Controlled Strategies, the company hired by CrossFit to investigate Event One. It took me three to four weeks to set up that meeting after receiving their contact information. I know everybody wants answers now. I do too. But I also understand that everyone is living with this and will be ready to speak at different times.
The meeting went well, but I was nervous about reliving and discussing that fatal morning. To my fellow coaches that were there August eighth, your insight will be invaluable. If you were on the fence like I was about sharing your experience of event one with them, DM if you want to know more about mine. P.S. to all the fans, please remain patient and respectful. We all love the sport. No one wants to see it go away.
So that just made me think like, it's not as right around the corner as we think, you know? Yeah. If they're still trying to get eyewitness accounts and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That was very well written. Yeah. I mean, again, I think we're all just like, we just want to know. And it's because I think we, a lot, so many people need that to move forward and move on. Because there's so many unresolved thoughts and feelings about it that people are looking for that to move on.
But I think, you know, we've been talking about it takes time for it to be done thoroughly. And it's hard when you're not getting to see all the steps and processes of how that happens to kind of understand more about it. You know, you're just like, what the heck is taking so long? Yeah. And we actually talked about this Sunday, like when it comes out, then we all have to relive it as well. Right.
Like those of us who were there, like that means if I'm going to read this report redacted or not, like I have to relive that moment again. And it was not easy to get over. Right. And, and, and I wasn't even a major player in it. Like she was, the athletes were, I can't even imagine. I mean, I talked to Boz a few times that weekend. He was devastated. I was hurt and I was sad. Boz was wrecked. I can't even imagine what they went through. And now they're having to go back through it.
Yeah. It's retraumatized testimony giving, and then it's going to be released and that's going to open in the wound again. And then there's going to be chatter and opinions. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like we've, although there has been some differing opinions, I feel like, you know, CrossFit has kind of come back together again, kind of, you know, like being supportive with each other. And I feel like it's going to open that wound up to where people are going to separate again.
Yeah. Because whatever you feel, I think you're going to be able to read that in this document. Yeah. Right. So you just only, it's just going to strengthen your opinion. Yeah. Right. So. Cause usually these things don't come out like super definitive. Unless you watch the McMahon documentary and then some of that stuff was super definitive. Yeah. I haven't gotten to that one yet because I'm still working my way through the Menendez brothers. Listen, I have to consume the content.
Yeah. Okay. Then that like, thirty years old now. It is. Yeah. Yeah. At least I completely agree with you. Yeah. Completely. Yep. Can't say it better. Going to Pennsylvania this weekend. Visit your mom? Daughter. Oh, okay. Yeah. She got a new job, so we're going to celebrate. She got a job in a private studio. Awesome. I'm driving to Athens today to pick up my daughter for fall break. But my only agreement into doing this was that I will drive there, but she has to drive home.
I'm not spending three hours of my day driving. I will go get her and then she can drive. You can make it there in an hour and a half. Yeah. I'm not speeding either. It literally go look up on Waze right now. I'll tell you. One hour, thirty minutes. How long did it take you? Two hours. What the heck are you doing? I'm just kidding. Okay. Been watching MLB, Scott? I am. I've been a closet Mets fan for a long time.
And the fact that they're actually doing really well and last night clinched their spot in the NL DS CS and LCS champion, the nationally championship series. Super stoked. Francisco Lindor with the grand slam last night was awesome. My Pirates are still number one in my heart, but they are never going to make the playoffs run by that clown that owns them. So I am just adopting the Mets because Bobby Bonilla used to play for them and he was my favorite player ever. NLDS.
Yes. Yes. Well, that's what they just won, Elyse. They won the National League Division Series. Now they're in the National League Championship Series, which is the NLCS. And they will play either the Dodgers or the Padres, whoever wins game five. She dreams of a day when her Reds make it. Just like us Pirates fans, Elise, you'll be waiting a very, very long time. That was an echo. All right. Well, with that, I think that's all we have today. Yeah, get outside and enjoy the beautiful weather.
Yeah, do your rucking ground overhead. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to ruck and mow the lawn. Not kidding. So I got that new mattress a couple weeks ago? Yes, Elise, every Saturday. Yeah. I'm going to lie to you, Elise. She starts to watch it and then gets nervous and then just starts walking around doing other things to get out her nerves. Okay. Scott is a hundred percent right. A hundred percent right.
And then her husband and son yell so loud she can tell what's happening in the game and doesn't even need to be inside the house. That's a hundred percent also accurate. Correct. And just some cleanup items. Episode five is out for the behind the scenes of the Masters. Episode six is just about ready to go for Monday release. And it's a good one. These get better as we go. And I'm so pumped for you guys to see that one because the conversations get longer and more detailed and more fun.
um so yeah that's gonna be fun and if you are fans of haley mario and her husband josh they're a big part of episode six but also they've both been asked to participate in the masters division of crash crucible and I don't know if I've ever seen josh compete he's only ever coached haley or haley adams and so it'll be interesting to see him out on the competition floor Uh, yeah, everybody was making fun of me trying to get the guy that didn't speak English to talk to me. Five. Sorry.
He was warming up and I'm like, what are you trying to loosen up? And he didn't understand. And he just pointed. That was it. That was my whole. Love it. Yeah. So, yeah. So that's coming out. Um, Good luck to Carolyn this weekend. Kill it. Yeah. We love you. We want you to crush it. And other than that, jump on with us for, it was great content. Like and subscribe. Yeah. Like and subscribe. With that, we'll see everybody next time, guys. This has been fun. Talk to you soon.