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Nightcap - Hour 1: Bengals franchise tag Tee Higgins again, 49ers trade Deebo Samuel & more!

Mar 05, 20251 hr 4 minEp. 361
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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Bengals franchise tagging Tee Higgins for a second consecutive season, the 49ers trading Deebo Samuel to the Commanders, and much more!

03:50 - Bengals add franchise tag to Tee Higgins
08:30 - Ja’Marr Chase leaves a cryptic tweet
15:17 - Eagles release Darius Slay
27:43 - Travis Hunter playing two positions
35:50 - Deebo Samuel to Commanders
40:55 - Will Howard off at NFL Combine
45:25 - Patrick Surtain II joins the show

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to negotiating a long term deal. Cincinnati has until July fifteenth to reach a new multi year deal with Higgins or he'll make a fully guaranteed twenty six point two million Since the second time he will get tagged, he will make one hundred and twenty percent of his now twenty twenty four salary, bringing him up to twenty six point two. If this is a deal going to get done or are they making sure they get something back

on an eventual trade? Do you believe? Do you believe they're going to sign T to a long term deal or they're going to try to sign him and then trade him and get compensation.

Speaker 4

You know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure even even at this point and understanding the value that that that T will get or what his value is right.

Speaker 5

Now on the on the open market. I think the Bengals understand that.

Speaker 4

I think T understands that as well now also on the on the on the on.

Speaker 5

The right side of things.

Speaker 4

As as a Bengal fan myself, true die hard Bengal fan, I would love to see them keep you know, keep the trio together. I would love to see them keep the band together.

Speaker 5

The sald cap went up on I think it's right, it's two seventy nine.

Speaker 4

But when I think about it, listen, Jamar Chase is getting ready to be the highest paid and reset the quarterback market as far as contractually, so I understand that. Then I'm not sure what they're gonna do with Joe bro Is he gonna restruction in some sort of way to make wiggle room not only for just t Higgins, but for Trey Henderson, for other for other us that.

Speaker 2

Want he see see the market. He got seventeen half sacks for the last two seasons.

Speaker 4

Yeah, youin't got to tell me, I know, I know, so boom, what's going what's going to happen? What's more important? Where are the needs that need to be met for us as a team. I know fans want to say bring T back. I love T, but I also understand what he can get. I understand its value on the open market. Now, obviously the franchise tag you did it,

you did it to me one year. Now when you do it to me one year, basically you're telling me, listen, we don't really see the value in you, and give me the contract long term.

Speaker 5

So we're gonna do is.

Speaker 2

That means they're betting against you. Yet if you thought of what if if you think of me what I think of me, you give me the deal.

Speaker 4

It wouldn't been no questions asked on the deal would have got done last year and now double back come this year again. T Higgins great year, big game stepped up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he only played twelve I think you only played twelve games, but he still had ten touchdowns, He averaged like seventy after like seventy five yards of game receiving. So if you extrapolate that over the full seventeen games, we know what type of season he would have even with Chase doing what he did. And that's the problem that you run into Ojo when you keep pushing the Cans down the road. Okay, you kicked Jamar Chase Can down the road. He gets the triple crowd. Okay, you

wouldn't do anything with Hendrickson. Now he led the league in the sacks back to back season, which he's had seventeen and a half. Okay, you franchise tag T Higgins. Now he follows that up, and he's like, y'all got to pay me because I see Jaylen Waddle with years left on his contract, got twenty eight. Y'all mean to tell me, I'm at the end of my contract and y'all think franchising me at twenty six is good. Now I need guaranteed money. I need like seventy five million

fully guaranteed the first year. Now we can talk.

Speaker 4

I'm curious. Normally, most of the time teams use a franchise tag to their advantage. Not only is the locker play up, but when you do it for a second year, I'm sure, by myself.

Speaker 2

I'm betting against you. I bet that you won't have another year like that, because what good is it for you? If he has another year like that? Maybe you want a Super Bowl and said, well, we got a Super Bowl out that we can let him go. That's that's because at some point in time, if you're drafting the type of player that you believe you are, you're gonna you're not gonna be able to keep them all with you. It's just, it's just it's impractical. You're not gonna be

able to keep Chase at forty. You're not gonna keep Joe at fifty five. You're not gonna be Hendrickson. He wants thirty. T Higgins wont thirty? Excuse me, Joe at that at that number. Now they got a little bit more cap space. They waved Alice Kappa h the guard. I guess he had a bad year. I mean, looking at it, he gave up the most sad, the most precious, most hurries. So it was, it was, it was pretty bad. Jamar Chase posted this cryptic treat of Joe Burrow on Instagram.

What at Ti Higgins? If you can see it on your screen?

Speaker 4

Like again, listen, even listen. Even the players as fas as fans, fans and Bengal fans, they always come to they don't understand the difference in how the players feel from the business side of things as opposed to how the fans feel. The fans think, oh, it's so easy. The cap is going up, They're gonna sign everybody. Listen, if you look at the reactions, you look at the reactions from T, you look at the reactions from Jamar Chase, it tells you that things aren't as sweet as you

think on the outside looking in. Regardless to how the cap numbers have gone up, do you have to think the Bengals have a franchise run this? Ain't they just not think about now? They think about the foresea of your future?

Speaker 2

Gane, I want long term guaranteed money.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well listen, they they got They got to July to get it done. They got to July. That gets done. Not me as much as I want you to stay. I love T. I love my bangles, I love the organization. Matter of fact, I love the fans that argue with me back and forth. Zim Houde, I know you're probably gonna see this. I love you too, and and and

everybody else, but I just don't see it happening. Based on what T is deserving of and what Chase is going to be going north to forty, it's oh he is, He's resetting the marketing up.

Speaker 2

He going north to forty.

Speaker 4

He's resetting the marketing for a simple fact. You made You made me.

Speaker 2

Wait, you said, I'll tell you what y'all like that twenty six point two. Give me that and guarantee money. Give me eighty million full of guarantee and then y'all can put it have you want to. But I need to make I need to make I need to make eighty million. I need to make eighty million in the first four year.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2

I need to make eighty million. Give me a eighty give me eighty million dollars signing bonus, and then I'll played. The first year I played for like one point two. Then I played for five million, and the next year I play for ten. Since since y'all say twenty six, everybody talk, okay, just go ahead and give me that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and give give me a nice lump sumthing.

Speaker 2

Give y'all give me, give me, give me seven, give me seventy millions Saturday bus.

Speaker 4

Give me some security. Now I need a little I need a nest egg in case something happened, just in case, because I ain't going to lords.

Speaker 2

Well, hey, if I if I'm Chase, Chase said y'all maybe take this ten million dollar in churance policy. I'm gonna factor that in when y'all negotiate, so y'all will give me that back on top if I have to take out another point in time.

Speaker 4

Hey, listen, this game is a game. This is the football, and this is why I wouldn't want I wouldn't want to be an owner.

Speaker 5

I wouldn't want to be a gym.

Speaker 4

I wouldn't want to be in a position of Katie Blackburn, Mike Brown, Troy Blackburn and the situation like this with a team this great, where players dis great and it's time to say.

Speaker 2

You have to be ahead of the curve? Do you believe t Higgett. Let me ask you a question. Do you believe Chase in the next three to five years will not be a top three receiver? If you don't be if you believe he will be a top three receiver, you signed him last year because you're paying him based on what you believe he's going to do moving forward, now what he's done in the past, because I've already

paid you for that. So if I give you thirty five thirty six million dollars, that's because I believe you're gonna be a top three receiver and in two years this wanna be obsolete. Now I got you for another two years, O Joe. At thirty six million, when to go a RaSE from probably be forty two to forty

three million. See, that's what you have to do. So you have, like a lot of times, O Joe, you have to buy something like man, look here, what people what if you do an investment people by goal, people buy commodity base don't believe they're going to go higher. So at this price, although it seems steep, I buy it for a little. When it moves up, Now I got it. And that's how you have to look at

these players. Michael Park, Dude, you okay, you saw Michael with defensive Rookie of the Year and he's been in the envy the defensive player in your discussion. Why we wait this man get all the way to the end of his contract before we think about doing it again a long term deal. All you did was let the price keep going up. Yesterday's price is not. Today's price.

Speaker 4

Is definitely not. It's definitely not. And listen, I want I want to get I want them to work things out, but I also understand how the inside of things work. Everybody yelling about the cap, the cap going up, the cap being hot. Have the Bengals ever had all the way up to the cap, So let's let let's start there. Have they you know we were screaming over the cap is going? Is this is that?

Speaker 5

I mean, listen, this is still a business that has to be run.

Speaker 4

This ain't this, ain't madden.

Speaker 2

You see what Howie Roseman does. You see what he did. You see what he did with Devonte. You see what he did with you aj. You see what he did with Hertz, got him early. And what he did is that he's like, Okay, Sa Kuan, we'll give you this. If you get these incentives, not only will you get him for this year, it'll automatically go onto your contract next year. So that one point five one point seven fifty me. So now sat Quan's gonna make almost fourteen

million dollars. He's those numbers next year. Guess what that third year of the contract. Now there's a chance he goes out and has another year. I'm not saying he's gonna go for two thousand, but has another good year. How we might say, you know what to keep that cap number down, Let's go ahead and get add a couple more years to it, give you.

Speaker 4

Nice signing bonus.

Speaker 2

That's that's how you have to do it, though, Joe. You have to have some forward thinking because if you wait till like I don't know, I don't know, by the time you realize the guy is good, it's going to be cost prohibitive for you to sign your players.

Speaker 4

Well, listen, the guys we talk about, there's nothing to realize, you know what they do because the film, the film don't lie. They did it in college, they got to the NFL, and they kept on doing it. They ain't missed the beat. And we're talking about Chase. I'm not sure why he didn'tay him last year. There was nothing

wrong with Tea. Understand that what you got, you know, for the Force Year of the Future, we took about two top one, one top three player, and we have another one that arguably could be in the top ten, you know as what I like to call it one be I don't. I don't see t as No. Two.

Speaker 5

That just me because anywhere else on any other team tags.

Speaker 4

Me a number one. But anyway that neither here nor there. I hope they get to do.

Speaker 2

I hope they The Eagles are going to release six time Pro Bowl corner Darrli your slave after five seasons with the teams the Eagles initially acquired slave Ville trade with Detroit in the twenty twenty immediately say the quarterback to a three year extension. Slay thirty four is coming off one of his best seasons of his career. He allowed a forty two percent completion rate, allowed five point four yards per target, had fifteen pass breakups, or all

his best marks since joining the Eagles. In twenty twenty four, the Eagles allowed a league low one hundred and seventy four yards passing per game, the lowest by franchise since the since two thousand. Who was at Tennessee since at least two thousand? I think Tennessee. I think they beat the Ravens that year because we allowed the Ravens allowed sixty like sixty something yards Russian, but I think the

average gave up two hundred sixty yard. Tennessee actually statistically had a better Huh, Oh, you're talking about that was the what do you call him? The Eagles franchise? Oh? I thought it was talking about the lowest since two thousand by any franchise. Okay, because I know Tennessee passed defense in two thousand. They only gave up two hundred and forty two yards a game. Can you see what Tennessee gave up that year? So oh Joe, But he always said that if he didn't finish his career in Philly,

he would love to go back to Detroit. Detroit was an original team. Obviously, he had some issues with Matt Patricia, who's now the defensive coordinator of Ohio State. Hey, he goes to Philly, has a great you know, go to two He went to a bunch of Pro Bowls. They went to two Super Bowls, they won this past one. So could you see him going back to Detroit?

Speaker 4

I think so. I think so why not? Especially with what happened from an injury standpoint to the Detroit Lions on the back half of the season. I like it. I like it, And I'm also trying to think about why not running back with as well as he played last year with the Eagles. But I can't even talk about Jeffrey Lewie and Harry Robins and when it comes to that decision making Mitchell, obviously they're now passing the.

Speaker 2

Toy on one side, that passing the keys to Cooper de John at rookie, he ready, He's ready to be a starter.

Speaker 4

Now listen, listen. Honestly, he played well, right, he played very well, but he played well based on everything else going on around him? Is he actually ready after his rookie season despite them winning the Super Bowl? That being that, in that spot like that, when you got to see the number one receiver at times you you have to see maybe the number two receiver.

Speaker 2

Is he Ricky can Keepoe? I mean, what you're gonna do with Braun, You're gonna pay him. He gonna want the Kings ransom? Okay, sweat? What about you got two d linemen that could potentially leave.

Speaker 4

You?

Speaker 2

Got Jayleen Carter coming up now, Hey, he gonna want the Kings ransom. Hey, and well, gonna be coming down the pipeline on Joe. He gonna want the Kings ransom.

Speaker 5

M mm hmm.

Speaker 2

Hey, no, I understand you know the chance saying they're gonna keep the John at a nickel. Yeah, They're gonna put him at the corner and then and guess what, They're gonna start him at the corner and then when they go three, he's gonna bump inside the nickel.

Speaker 4

But then who who go whos gonna be the other? Whos gonna be the other corner? Hey listen, playing on the our side and playing a nickel. But that's a different ballgame, baby, that's draft.

Speaker 2

They found out that he's really good at the nickel, and so guess what they put him inside. They'll put him inside the situation and they'll bring somebody else. It'd be the same. You remember how what's the guy's name, O Joe? He ended up going to Tennessee. He ended up going to Tennessee from the Kansas City the dB.

Speaker 4

Oh Ladaria, yep, sneak.

Speaker 2

What did they do? They drafted a corner. Sneave was really good. They they put him, they put it inside. What did they do after the season? They ended up signing trading him. And now you got Washington and you got McDuffie. See, y'all just look at fans, y'all gotta stop looking at That's not how teams look at it. They drafted guy corner, okay, damn, and they got a slave is getting a little older, thirty four years of age. That's a little old for a corner. But he played

extremely well. Now maybe maybe it's a situation that you know, they come back. I would go test the market now if I couldn't find something suitable. If I go, if I gotta play for three million, I'll play for three million in Philly. Ain't gonna play for three me because I know we're gonna win. But at least let me go keep the tire somewhere else because somebody else might have some money. Fubby O with yo.

Speaker 4

Hey, that's that's that's t that's t un. Do you understand it? And I mean no disrespect to my fans in Cincinnati. I love you, every last one of you. Do you understand what he's gonna make it if you get on the open market. Come on, man, he's deserving it. That he worked too hard.

Speaker 2

You and me.

Speaker 4

Think about the sacrifices you just told me about that you went through to even touch the field. What you think he got a story, We got a story on how we want that sense of security. Allow him to see it because you didn't. You didn't believe in him here before you know what, I want you to fool with him. Were gonna tag you? We go tag you because we don't value giving you a long term contract.

We don't because if you did value me, and you thought of what you think of how I think about myself as a player and as a receiver, there would have been no issue paying me. Now you tag me again two years in a row.

Speaker 2

What does that, Tello? That's the players Association you agreed to that.

Speaker 4

Well, listen, you have to understand when it comes to the franchise tag, you got twenty one hundred some players. Let to stay with me real quick, now, chat y'all, stay with me real quick. You got twenty one hundred twenties, maybe twenty t one hundred players. When it comes to the franchise tag we talked about it only happens maybe to six eight players, six to eight no more eight, no,

no more eight. Now, actually going in to fight with something for such a small percentage of players that is required, that's where where it's used. You know, year, any year, any year out? Uh, do you really want to fight for something like that, because sometimes it's that advantage for the players and for the team as well, sometime buying you a little bit more time so we can get a deal done. Now in this case, when it comes

the tea. I don't like the way that take advantage of him, because if you don't want to want the band the first time, listen to me again.

Speaker 2

But that's for see, that's where you have to be unselfish, because a lot of time, for the very reason I remember when they first started talking about lifetime benefits, there were a lot of prominent guys and I'm not gonna call their name, give me a million dollars and I buy my own health insurance. How that work out for the same thing you just said. There are so few guys that say, man, I'm never gonna get the franchise tag until they get the franchise tag. And now look

at you. At some point, oh yo, Kurt Flood, he never benefited from free agency. He lost you, basically lost his career, so everybody else got free agency. Spencer Haywood, right, Sometimes you have to sacrifice. There are a lot of people that sacrifice for the greater good, even though they weren't there to reap the benefits. Doctor King A. Malcolm X, so many of the freedom fighters. A lot of people sacrifice that didn't get the benefit of the sacrifice. That's what sacrifice means.

Speaker 5

I like that I like the way you put that.

Speaker 2

So now, okay, I'll tell you what. Y'all want two franchise tags. We want lifetime health benefits ye, Or you get one franchise tag, but you can't franchise me again. I got I need. You know, I already gave you a bigger concession. Now you get a bigger piece of the power owners. I got to clowse something back, right right, lifetime health benefits, well, we got to do away with the franchise tag.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

On the other and or even if we don't get lifetime, I need at least ten fifteen years. What is oh joe? If the average NFL career is three is three years, so the average NFL player coming in at twenty two to twenty three, So that means a vested player with three years, he's done at twenty five, twenty six, Oh joe, he gets five years of health benefits. At thirty one, he's done. He only hopefully if like the average life expectancy, if someone is like seventy five years, so he got

another forty plus years. But the guys don't think like that, Oh Joe, that money coming in so good, and you're like, hey, I'm gonna be able. But when you don't have money coming in and you have it going out, and you get if you get a serious injury, you get a form of cancer, you get a treatment, it'll wipe your savings out, just like that, Just like that. And with the price the surgeries and the price of the medicine, some medicine costing you twin fifteen to twenty thousand a month.

Speaker 4

Especially not especially now. Hey, oh my god, yes, do you have how much? You say?

Speaker 2

Some of them is like ten, fifteen, twenty fours of a month. Some of them cancer drugs.

Speaker 4

Jesus, my goodness.

Speaker 2

I mean look at I mean insulin. Look at insulin? What's the insulin costs you? And people need two three injections a day, Travis Hunter says him playing both sides of the football is more difficult than show hell Tynan hitting and pitching and baseball. Let's take a listen to what Trav had to say.

Speaker 4

Probably mean what I do in football because it's a lot on your body. You know, Tunny, he's a great player.

Speaker 2

But you gotta do a lot of in football.

Speaker 4

Ain't not close, Hey, listen, completely different sides of the spectrum, boy, A trap, I know you're gonna see this until you can get in that cage. You hear me, just the bat cage. I don't even want no real picture, just the machine. Tell him to turn it up the ninety to ninety five miles power. Let me see you hit it. Just a fastball. I ain't talking about no slider. I ain't talking about no curve. I ain't talking about no sinker.

Speaker 2

Ain't talking no change up. He ain't talking about no fastball, just straight host.

Speaker 4

The most difficult thing to do in this world is hit a baseball coming at you. Just a fastball. That's it, Just a fastball. As difficult as a game of football is. And I love you. You're an exceptional talent, yes, but it's not even comparable.

Speaker 2

But if you think about it, oh yo, man, we can only track two players in Major League history. Yeah, actually know to play baseball, pitch and hit. We're talking about Babe Ruth and we're talking about Sho Tane.

Speaker 4

Yes, Troy Brown.

Speaker 2

We saw Troy We saw Troy Brown do that with the Patriots defense. Brian Jordan did it time? Did it? Do you see the level show? Hell? Tany is the best player in baseball different he could be a number one starter on you for your pitching staff. And here the best hitting baseball. He can hit an average hit for power, he can run the base time. I love you, Bro, but the hardest thing to do. And I've talked to

a lot of guys that didth. I talked to Boat. Yeah, both say the hardest thing to do here to baseball. I talked to Time. Now we're talking about two of the greatest athletes to have ever played. You name a sport boat in Time or the two or two of the top five. Okay, if you want Jim Thorp for whoever else you want to put into this equation. But I tell you this, Bo Jackson and Time are two

are the top five athletes that we've ever seen. And both of those guys told me say, hitting the baseball is the hardest thing to do.

Speaker 5

Very difficult, very difficulty.

Speaker 2

And to do it at that level. Now we're gonna have to We're gonna see you, Tramp come in now, oh Joe. We've seen Choeyl Tarni at the highest level do it. Yeah, huh and being an All Star and be an MVP. Now, Tramp, you're gonna have to get one of them. All stars. You gonna have to get to the Pro Bowl now, yeah to match.

Speaker 4

This and a chance he could do it, then, a chance he could do it is rookie year, especially the last listen, the last rookie, the.

Speaker 2

Last as a DV or a wide receiver.

Speaker 4

He last wide receiver I came. I heard come out with this kind of confidence and say some of the things he's saying and live up to everything he's saying. With Jamar Chase, you know it wasn't out Atlantish or something like this, but I'm just saying confidence, the confidence that Travis Hunter has when hell, Jamar Chase said, I'm coming into the league and I've got drafted by the Bengals and We're coming there and I'm breaking every record,

every record he line and he ain't lying. He's still on business about everything he said and mint it and Travis Hunters had that same type of cashe he and same type of confidence. That's why I believe there's a chance he can do it. He can do it because now now.

Speaker 2

I'm not saying he can't. I'm not saying that he can. He can't. He can't do both. He's not gonna do the He's not going to put the number of plays in in that he did in college.

Speaker 4

That's difficult. That's difficult, and he'd have to have the condition of of a fifteen thousand. I'm trying to think, what's that. What's the longest longest distance race at the Olympics and the kind of the marathon?

Speaker 5

Yeah, the kind of win and lunker passy. You need to do something.

Speaker 4

Like that at at that streame extreme level. That's it's too much. Yeah, I'm just thinking about exerting that kind of energy, messing around with with with with with with Ike Taylor and and Red and just and then being tired and think about a twelve thirteen play drive. Yeah, and now we kick a field goal.

Speaker 1

Now we come back.

Speaker 4

Now I'm on defense, man, man, stop.

Speaker 2

It's different, and he's gonna find out there are guys that are closer to his skill set that he previously thought. That's the thing about the nfl O show. You find guys that hold on, man, I used to be able to do this. I get, but wait a minute, damn, why are still here? Yeah?

Speaker 4

At that point, the only thing that separates you is your technique.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting to see because you know, even no matter who you think is not a really good receiver, right, they were probably better than the receiver that he went against. That's the thing about that. People don't realize, like how good the guy you say that's a bum or you don't think he's good. People don't realize how good they actually are.

Speaker 4

Yo, all right, yeah, yeah, look who they're playing against.

Speaker 2

They play against guys that make him look like that. It's just like those guys that you see that guy on the bitch you don't never get in the game. Okay, go down to the y and play one on one and watch what he do to you. Go to lifetime and watch what you do to you.

Speaker 4

Put you in a blender, put you and put you in a blender.

Speaker 2

People don't realize, like pros, like guys that that they get paid to do this. Man, please, you un't estimate their joggers. Man, you can't do that just because because the level. I mean, you look at a lebron and the guy might be the thirteenth and fourteenth guy. You're like, but that guy and this is what I was telling somebody, the guy that you think is the thirteenth or the fourteenth gallon the bench. That guy is closer to Lebron than you are to the thirteenth or the fourteenth gallon

the bench. Think him back there. What I just said on Joe, the thirteenth or fourteenth guy on the bench is closer to Lebron. What the guy said that whole talking issues to the thirteenth fourteenth guy on the bench.

Speaker 4

I got I got you. I got you simply because the guy the fact that he's on the bench. I mean we'll leave it at that, he's.

Speaker 2

Actually on Oh, because you're on the bench. Okay, okay, but I'll make you to see. Look I said this, I thought dB because I think he's more sound as a dB than he is as a wide receiver. I think he out athletic. His athleticism and gets him about a lot of stuff. Now, not to say that he can't fine tune and get some nuances of the receiver, but I think right now you can just drop him in right now, O Joe at dB and he understands.

Having been coached by time, I think he has a great his timing, his ball skills are really really good. And for him to be like long legged, you can transition really well, he can get in and out of breaks really well. He tracks the ball exceptional, great hands. You know, he got great hands on your because he's a wide receiver, so you know, he got great hands. And for him, it's just not good enough for him to knock the ball down. He's trying to take the ball.

Speaker 4

Away and take it and go the other way with it at that dance.

Speaker 2

The big news of the weekend Ojoe. The forty nine Ers have dealt Deebo Samuels to the Commanders in exchange for a fifth round pick. As a part of the trade, Washington is taking on the remainder of Samuel's contract, paying his full seventeen point five to five million salary in twenty twenty five to do The Commanders not have the most dangerous offensive corps. They have Je Dames at quarterback who was offensive Rookie the year, Brian Robinson junior running back,

Terry Scary, Terry McLaurin. They have Deebo Samuels and Zach Ertz. They also have a Dynamic Brownaomi Brown.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Listen, they've improved. They've improved tremendously. I mean, hell, they were an NFC championship huh. Yeah, they were in the NFC Championship last year. And then you bring a dynamic playmaker like Deebo Samuels over to your offense again, and what does it do for your quarterback? It takes pressure off your quarterback again, even more pressure. I don't have to do more. What do you mean we got Deebo Samuels. You know how many things he can do.

He's a little Swiss army kni If you can play in a scle outside, you can put him in motion, you can put him in the backfield. You can do so much with him, as long as the creativity is there. I'm not sure who the office the coordinator is for the Kingsbury. Oh it's Cliff oh Man, oh Man. They straight they straight listen. Clingberry ain't no different than McVeigh McVay. Klingberry ain't no different than Andy Reid. I'm just saying from a creative standpoint and knowing what to do and

using your players to their strengths. So they gonna be fine. Oh, they definitely gonna be fine. I mean, but what the forty nine is gonna do now? They talking about letting trading Brandon n You too?

Speaker 2

Uh? Seventeen point five seventeen million, So they traded the fifth ROUNDE for him, and the Cowboys traded the fourth rounder f Mingo. Mm hmm, oh my bad. Where'd you thinking out, Joe, Jerry Jones. No, they do not have Ojo. Do the Commandants have the most dangerous? No?

Speaker 4

Did they? No? No, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 2

Did Saint Quad retire? They still got a j They they still got Davante and they still got a Goddard.

Speaker 4

No, they don't have the more danger but they improved tremendously. I'll tell you that for sure. They improved tremendously a lot.

Speaker 2

Now are they Are they better than Detroit?

Speaker 4

Oh that's a good one.

Speaker 5

Held on with Jameson, Williams, mon Ross, Saint Brown and I don't know.

Speaker 2

And Montgomery sure.

Speaker 4

No, no, no, no, that's crazy.

Speaker 2

Uh you throw Minnesota in there, Addison, Jenna, Jones, Hawkinson.

Speaker 4

Minnesolt Wait, hold on, hold on, Holo, hold on, hold on, hold.

Speaker 5

On, green Bay, Wicks, Reed, Dobbs, Watson.

Speaker 2

Oh you check this out, Jacobs, Deebo, Samuel, Terry, McLaurin, Marshawn Lattimore has a sixty one million dollar cap hit. Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, sa Kwan Barkley, Dallas Arter has a sixty six million dollar cap hit. How we teed off Howard works the magic.

Speaker 4

Hey listen, you know who need to work some magic Woo America's team.

Speaker 2

They ain't got nothing to work. And they about the U they said, the reports are they about the franchise a Diggie Zua. So that's gonna be twenty five million hard cap. You can't spread it. DAK is about to be what night million against the cap CD probably you haven't even signed. You haven't even signed Micah, right, I think.

Speaker 4

But they give them a little breathing room, you know. Uh, they'll restructure DAK. They give him a lump sum on the front end and the signing bonus. Their freedom freedom up, you know some of that cap. And that's their that's their fault. They want to wait till the last minute to do that.

Speaker 2

They do.

Speaker 4

They did that.

Speaker 2

That's what they always do. That's why, Uh you wait till the last minute. Now you got a franchise of Diggie to a Now if you don't sign him, guess what he gone?

Speaker 4

Yeah, but you.

Speaker 2

Mess your cap up. You gotta you gotta have some foresight in order to see, like, you know what this guy's a player for. I know, a go to him side of a little early, and then a year from now you're like, damn they got him for that. Yeah, Oh, Joe. Will Howard has had an offcom He's one of the quarterbacks that opted to throw the NFL Scout and Combine over the weekend, and his performance brought mixed reviews and was deemed inconsistent. He missed multiple passes, including a couple

of deep balls down the field. She Door came to his defense. I don't understand why y'all hating on at Will Howard. He just wasn't an it. It's hard to throw the receiver that you don't know. Everyone want everyone runs wero out differently, and y'all walked to QBS to come to the combine and throw.

Speaker 4

I mean, listen, we talk about quarterbacks that just coming off seasons. We could turn on the film. What are you judging in someone in shirts and shorts? It does nothing. Everybody looks great, all American and shirts and shorts. What do you do once you put the helmet and shoulder pads on and your cleats? How do you perform, then how did well Howard perform? Then you throw Themi Smith?

Speaker 2

Yep?

Speaker 4

Come on, man, what do we talk What do we talk about?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 4

I want to make sure you look good. I want to make sure you pass the eye tests in your shorts and you hit every receiver that you've never thrown to before and complete every pass. Yeah, get out of here.

Speaker 2

Yeah it's tough. I mean sometimes you get nerves sometimes a man. I ain't used to run.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 2

First of all, I used to have my ankles tape. I ain't have no ankles tape. Man, bad, bad on you. I mean I had never been on turf before in my life. Like, it is what it is. Somebody gonna give me a chance?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2

I was like, I sure hope somebody that that take me. They don't play on turf. You know who I thought was gonna take me on? Joe the team that I had the most contact with when I talked to the most who that Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 4

Hey, hey, what you could have could you could have been over there with you? Boy?

Speaker 2

I figured the Cincinnati Seattle because they had called asked where I was gonna be, and uh, Cincinnati Seattle. Who else. I really I didn't hear from Denver. Maybe the Patriots, because the guy came several times and worked me out. Yeah, oh, Philly, Philly. I talked to Butdy. I talked the buddy Ryan rested Soul. I talked to him a lot. So I was like,

I just knew. I say, Philly, Cincinnati, Seattle. I was like, damn Seattle player, I say, Cincinnati play on turf, Seattle play on turf, and Philly play on turf because you know, the vent was terrible. The event was every year was voted the worst worst field condition. Yes, Seattle was on turf because they played back then Ojo, they played in the Kingdome. I don't know if you remember the Kingdome. And then Cincinnati and Cincinnati don't.

Speaker 4

Win is though, that's not necessary.

Speaker 2

And then Lloyd behold Bronco Country.

Speaker 6

There you go, there you go, yeah, yeah, you use a right, you was all right? He was right, he was that boy.

Speaker 2

But hey, well, hey, bro, don't worry about that. They know what you can do. Hey, when you have your pro when you have your pro date and you throw it to your receivers at Ohio State.

Speaker 4

As all that matter.

Speaker 5

And again even even at the Pro Day.

Speaker 4

Again, are they drafting you based on what you're doing at the combine? Yes, a little bit of it comes into play. But those where you have that much film, like a Will Howard, What are you talking about? You not throwing well at the combine is why you're stocking. Your stock is gonna drive. Huh. Anybody saying that is why certain scouts don't need to be in position to make calls for certain teams. Turn on the film. Man. There's a lot of film on Will Howard and what

he did at Ohio State. What are we talking about? Oh, he didn't throw well. We talked about shorts and shirt.

Speaker 2

I get it. Got playing man joining US, three time Pro bowler, two time All Pro Defensive Player of the Year. He's one of six now he's one of seven dvs to have won that award. Mail Blood went it first, Lester Hayes, Rod Woodson, Deon Sanders, Charles Woodson, Stefan Gilmore and now representing Bronco Country, Pat Sir Tanda second ps D. What do you do, yo?

Speaker 1

What's good? What's happening?

Speaker 2

Bro bron proud man? You represent Bronco Country extremely well. Man. You're the first defensive Player of the Year since Randy Gratishaw and I think seventy seven or seventy eight, So it's been damning the fifty years since we've had a defensive Player of the Year. But I can't think of someone that's more worthy. With the work that you put in.

Oh yeah, the way you prepare you know, hey, I get, I get, I get intel, the way the professionalism that what you display, how you go about your business, how you try to get better and better every day, the attention to detail that you put in. Man, I want to take my hat off and say congratulations, and I'm proud of your Bronco bro.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4

But you know, I've been watching you since high school boy man, obviously having you know, having the battles which with your pops Man we was in the league, and that there now watching you dominate at the position and being the number one defensive back in the league. I want to know my first and what's your mindset?

Speaker 2

Man?

Speaker 4

When you line up against some of the best receivers in the league with a great understanding, as technically sound as you are and as savvy as you are, how important is you to be able to keep your composure in most situations with DB's panic, which makes you probably the best in the league on that on that trade alone, outside of balls, skills and other stuff.

Speaker 2

Ps. Somebody did we might get you a boost Mobile contract, bro, so you will stop freezing up on us.

Speaker 7

Nah, this is wildfire tripping man pee where you at?

Speaker 4

You're at the crib?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong for Wi Fi.

Speaker 2

Was asking you, is that? What's your mindset when you go into a game and you know you're gonna have to take You're gonna have to travel. You got a lot of frequent flyers miles because you go left right. Sometimes you jump in the slot, but mainly you're outside, but you're taking the opposing team's best receiver. What is your mindset? How do you get locked in on a given Sunday?

Speaker 7

Yeah, I think it all starts with preparation, knowing your opponent, knowing who you're going up against. You know, because the NFL each and every week, you know you're going up against a top top line receiver each in every week, so you know you gotta have that mindset going in like you're gonna win every rep.

Speaker 1

At the end of the day.

Speaker 7

So now every time I go and play every Sunday, I look at it as a blessing because you know, I get to go up against the best, you know, and perform at a high level.

Speaker 4

So hey, growing up, listen, did you always know you wanted Did you always know you wanted to follow in your father's footsteps as a cornerback or was there another position you wanted to play? Or was it always defensive back?

Speaker 1

No, I wasn't always dB. Uh. You know, I've always wanted to be a running back growing up. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know I play that p PO.

Speaker 2

When you was at p PO.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah, Hey, y'all be cheating out there, man, Yeah I was.

Speaker 1

I was showing up that running back.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

I always want to be.

Speaker 7

But then, like you know, I played offense, you know, and then when I went to dB, it's sort of translated naturally, right, and I sort of got the feel for.

Speaker 1

You know, the instincts uh press.

Speaker 7

You know, I had the PRESS game already, so I was like, I'm just gonna carry it over to dB, and uh, you know, the game went off from there.

Speaker 2

So yeah, yeah, when people describe you, the one thing they say technically sound always on balance a team doesn't. He doesn't get lazy, he doesn't get lazy with his footwork, he doesn't get lazy with his hand placement, he doesn't get lazy with his head. Head, What are you thinking? Like when you go up there and you're like, okay, I got X Y, I got whoever the receiver is. When you lock in, you was like, I got this guy? What are you thinking? Ps?

Speaker 1

Shoot? The first thing I'm thinking of being sound, you know, uh, you.

Speaker 7

Know, like you said, technically sound like it stolen my eyes, you know, making sure my eyes at the right spot, you know, not guessing, you know, you know, being sound with that, you know, and put in making sure my my feet mastered receiver's feet.

Speaker 1

And then okay, you know.

Speaker 7

The receivers, you know, Chad, y'all get in. The breaks down and you know, y'all y'all so quick, so we got to react. And that's the main making sure I'm able to react, you know, a couple of seconds you know later with the receiver's timing at the end of the day. So you know, I make sure i'm that and hand placements right, you know, when I'm pressing, you know, feed a line with my eyes at the end of the day.

Speaker 1

So you know that's the main thing.

Speaker 2

Right, Let me get I got a good one. Are you a pattern read guy or you a down in distance guy? Because me, I'm looking at guys how guys played me. I'm looking at down in distance, how they play. I'm looking at when we're in a certain formation, how they play. So are you a pattern read guy or you're a down in distance guy?

Speaker 7

I think that's a good question. I think it ties in both ways. I think like when you when you realize down the distance, right, like you realize what patterns about to come, like you know, like if it's third and short, you know you you four by one backside you you're expecting, you know. I mean, So like when you when you when you tie in those little things, you know you understand the game. Like I read like two by two sets and be like, okay, two out to the flat. No one got n breaker, you know

what I mean. It's just like rock concepts have different levels to it. You know, when you're dB and you look at the first hand, but you know it comes with experience, you know what I mean. I want to say necessarily saying when I was a rookie. I knew that, you know, So the more and more time I had in the league and understanding offenses and how they process

it slowed the game down for me for sure. So I think when you go in easter and every week and you know you got the right film preparation, I think all that ties in together.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Hey, this is what I wanted to ask you too, because I had a lot of freedom to be able to do what I want to do as long as I stayed within the timement of the offense. And I'm curious on the defensive side of the ball, being that you're so good, how much freedom do you have and rain to be able to do what you want to do within the defensive scheme based on the based on

the receivers that you're playing each week. Now each week you playing Team number one, you traveling with them, and every receiver is different, do you change your game a little bit and your approach to that specific player each week being at there different? And do they allow you the freedom to do that?

Speaker 2

In it?

Speaker 4

And and uh and in the secondary I'm not sure how how strict your coach is, just I'm just curious.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, there's definitely some freedom.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 7

It's it depends on the call. You know, we have different variations of calls.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 7

It allowed you to be free like man a man like you can switch it up your leverage and stuff. Like when I'm when I'm playing in the defensive scheme, I'm sort of like if I'm a zone, I'm trying to I'm more solely focused on the quarterback sometimes you see, like trying to bake the quarterback or give the quarterback this look and think into something else at the same time. But yeah, you know, you get a lot of lead way out there, you know. But it's all about you know,

playing confident. You know, it's all starts with your confidence and your ability at the end.

Speaker 4

Of the day.

Speaker 7

So I think with all defensive scheme, you know, advanced Joseph, he allows us to you know, excel and all skill set, you know what I mean, play free.

Speaker 2

I'm looking at you and like you play a DK Medcalf or Mike Evans. Those are more big body receivers that want to get physical. You play a smaller receiver that's quick. Now, I don't know if people know this. Your rangey guy, I mean you got you got long arms and your long I mean you six too. You are legit six two and a half. I ain't no, they no, well with yous on you're a legit six

two and a half. So when you go up against say a DK medcalf On once played and now you got Jackson Smith and jigbit or you got locked on the next plate, how different? How difficult is it for you to get in out? Like Okay, this guy's more physical, Okay, I know I got to be I got to be able to be strong at my initial point versus a guy that got fast twist just looking to get up out of there to hurry.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's the thing, man.

Speaker 7

Like you know people people have this like notion on Taro d B saying, you know they can't.

Speaker 1

Get any out of breaks, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7

I mean obviously they know tar DB's may be physical, but that's the thing. Like as dB, you gotta have quick feet, you know what I mean? Yes, you got to be sudden as well too. So when I go against bigger receivers, I'm like, okay, we match it up pretty well. Like that's my game being physical, but like them quicker, smaller shift and quick. It's like, Okay, I got I got to tie into my game a little bit more. No, now, it's not physicality, you know, it's

all about the feet being aware of being sudden. But you know that just goes in, you know, towards the work in the off season, like making sure.

Speaker 1

My short area quickness up the par you know what I mean.

Speaker 7

All that ties in together because you know them receivers stop on a dime, then I gotta translate that you not to break and finishing on the place. So I think every week has its own challenge because you know, sometimes I go against a new receiver, I don't know any experience against them, but it got quick. You know, you gotta just read and react at the end of the day.

Speaker 4

So listen for me. My toughest challenges, you know, during during my tenure during my career, obviously you know, playing within the vision, having to deal with the Ike Taylors, the Lee Boden's obviously, Drell Reavers being the best dB I've ever gone against doing my tenure in the league. Who would your top three receivers be that you feel are the most difficult to cover or you would give

you issues? You know, I'm trying to find a way where you can you can you can give them, you know, their flowers without.

Speaker 1

Saying that they can beat you.

Speaker 4

You know what it is always somebody.

Speaker 7

Yeah, you know there's it's crazy because the receivers, it seemed like every year like another receiver pops up, like like people had under the radars. So it's like if you go through the through the lineage of receivers that I can see pop up like you're in the year out because I look at sister c as well too, so right right, you know, so like Ozzie Jamal he up there, he had a great year.

Speaker 1

You know I wouldst you know, it's a good.

Speaker 7

Match up between me and him, a good battle. Then we have like Davonte Adams. Yeah, we have the battles like I look at is that I battle against? You know what I mean? You know we have our good matchups. And let me see I say, Tyreek Hill, Oh he's been like he was.

Speaker 1

That dude for Shure, he's that dude. So some goods.

Speaker 2

Pat your dad Senior all Pro. How much time did he spend with you once you decided you're gonna play dB? How much time did he spend with you? Did you guys watch film. Did he say, okay, look for this. Did he work with your certain things? So, what what's been some of the lessons that your dad, having a dad play in the NFL play at a high level. What's some of the things that he's taught you.

Speaker 7

Yeah, I think it's an honor, you know, being able to you know sort of you know, have that you know, person you like that played at a high level, you know what I mean, you know, just learning from him, learning what he's seeing from the game. I'm just I just you know, I'm just a sponge, you know, I'm soaking in everything he taught me, you know, from day one, so, you know, being able to translate to the game now, it's honestly a blessing.

Speaker 1

But you know, I learned a lot.

Speaker 7

I mean, he just knows the game, the ins and outs of the game, you know what I mean. He's played in the league for you know, a long time. So being able to have that on my side, with his experience, it helps a lot, you know, just from when I was in the backyard just doing drills with him, now just watching film and stuff whenever he had the chance to.

Speaker 1

I think it's honestly a privilege for sure.

Speaker 2

Let me ask you this. At Alabama, coach Saban spent a lot of time with the DB's. He was very very hands on coaching eyes, eyes, this, feet, this, this, and this. Tell me about about Coach Saban and his approach to coaching DB's and some of the lessons that he taught to because it seemed like Coach Slable was hard. I told you to do it like that.

Speaker 7

Yeah, yeah, that's that's him, man, Like he the thing is about saving Like obviously he's very hands on, but it's with a purpose, like it's with a result that comes with it. Like you know, the things he teach you, you know, you just can't hear it one year and not the other. You got to really lock in and understand it, because he'll come back with you and challenge

you with the same question each and every day. And then if you don't lock in, that's when you're like, man, I can't trust you, you know what I mean, I can't put you on that field.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 7

So I think a lot of a lot of things he says was very you know, prevalent, you know to what he teaches, and uh, you know, it was a pleasure because you know, every once in a while you need it. You needed that, you know what I mean, You needed somebody to get on your ass and.

Speaker 1

Here and there.

Speaker 7

I mean, I think I think it was definitely a learning experience for me. But it was well worth it, you know, being coached by the greatest college football coach to ever do it, you know at the end of the day, so you know, my.

Speaker 1

Time's they're spending with him. I learned a lot, you know.

Speaker 7

And just when I take some of the lessons that he taught me, I sort of translated to the league.

Speaker 2

Now, So what were those practices? Like you got Hendry Ruggs, you got Dvade Tasmil, you got Duty, you got I mean you you, you got Wattle, you got those guys for It's not like you're like, okay, man, let me go on over here. I will take you. Hold on. He's the Blitt, the Cup Award winner, and I got Davonte Smill. He caught the game winning Chuck y'all in the National Championship Game of the True Freshman. He's the Hobsman Trophy winner, He's the Blit, the Copp every award

that he he did that. He's like, nah, let me let me go on and jump on Wattle. You got a guy that's running for too Boom got you. You got a guy Rugs running for two by you. I mean, what was practices like, because I know they had to be talking going on fans for sure. It was.

Speaker 1

It was competitive. It was like through my college career, I wasn't.

Speaker 7

Even like the games. Was the games like the games were so easy because you know, you went up. I was so much worried about Hama performing practice right in the game, you know what I mean, because they say you got Jude, he ain't got Waddle, he ain't got

Smitty and Rugs. It's like those who are right there like you see in the game live in action, and you're like, man, anyone of these boys scoed for like two hundred three Tugsy, you know if they want so, then you got two at quarterback, Mac Jones, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts, and you're back there like man, like yeah,

these some dudes, the some dogs. Yeah, there's a lot of shit talking though, Like he had competitive periods and like boom, like the defense will win and uh officers get mad, get frustrated and saving you know, he a defensive coach. So you know we in practice on a good note, you know, good speech, good practice, but boy, the offense come back the next day, like y'all up, we have a tough day. Through them competitive periods and saving he'd be like, break it down the boom, We'll just run gasses.

Speaker 1

Just because the defense is bad.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

He hate to see the defense lose.

Speaker 7

But like, yeah, by them practices, man, like I can vividly remember, like us is like getting better like each and every day, like the hot summer days, through them grueling days, like it was well worth it because in the game it was like piece of kate boom. I know, I need a up like he do a release boom. Hoh, it's easy like I'm on the hip. But in practice it's like I need to lock in in my age, you know what I mean. So yeah, it was definitely memorable for sure.

Speaker 2

That's you.

Speaker 4

You've had some incredible plays, bro, you know, obviously I've watched the highlights numerous times. Being that I am, I'm a huge, huge advocate for excellent dB play. You've had some incredible plays in your early career. Earlier in your early career, in the early stage of your career, what's been your favorite moment, you know, in the NFL so far outside of getting drafted? I know, getting drafted is

that that you can't replicate or replace that moment. But outside of that, what's been your favorite moment so far?

Speaker 1

Shoot, I think I think it just happened winning that depot. Man. Yeah, that's pretty that was a pretty surreal feeling.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 7

I just think, you know, that just ties in all the work I put in the off season, you know, and just setting my goals aside, you know, and put into fruition.

Speaker 1

I think that was my favorite moment so far. But I say, I.

Speaker 7

Say another thing is that's very underrated, is you know, building relationships, you know, across the lead. You know what I mean, you know, building building bonds that you know around the league that you know you would you were chaish for a lifetime. And that's one of the things that you know, I've been able to get exposed to, you know, meaning great vets, you know, I mean being around great locker rooms, great presence like that. I think

that's very cool. That's part of the NFL brotherhood. But yeah, man, I know I got a lot more years ago, so I know they keep rolling experience is gonna keep coming.

Speaker 1

So now I'm very excited. You know, I'm enjoined it so far.

Speaker 2

How does your young man stay hungry? You had such great accomplishments early in your career. You've been an off, you've been an All Pro, You've gone to the Pro Bowl. You just one Defensive Player of the Year in your third year. What does pats are taying do to stay hungry? Because a lot of times when people are achieving accomplishment, you climb a mountain, You're like, yes, but the really great one find another summit to scale. What does paths are paying to do for an encore man?

Speaker 7

I just realized at this point, man, you know, you've done everything you know at some point, but there's always room to get better. Like sometimes I'd be like, like on this play, like dang, I could have did something different here, like boom, Like what's that next step in order for me to get there?

Speaker 1

You know what I mean?

Speaker 7

Like I'm still a work in progress, you know what I mean. I still haven't reached my ceiling at the end of the day. So I feel like there's more work to be done. And I feel like right now, you know what I mean, People get into that. You know, I'm getting to that point where you know, you know, people gonna bring an a game. You know, each and every week. You know what I mean, you know have their best game against me. You know, have their best

numb against me. So I know, like you know what I mean, I still I'm still hungry, you know what I mean. I'm still working. I'm still the same dude each and every week, preparing the right way fundamentally, and you know, making sure I keep on shopping in my two box. So you know, this off season, I'll put the work in and get better at the end of the day.

Speaker 2

So you guys have a great season.

Speaker 4

Speaking speaking of speaking off season, you know I got inclease with me too.

Speaker 1

Now line them up. You know, you know we can line them up. I'm being as you are you may in Arizona. Yeah, I'm being as man.

Speaker 2

That dude, man, a pat man you ain't see last year. Oh you're tried to get off a dude. Man. Dude shoved him under the sideline. He put both hands in the chests. Not well, he didn't stab left or right, right, left, yes, breath listen list right here to him. He squeezed it, said, man, get out of here.

Speaker 4

Hey, listen what you got down to? Pat? You?

Speaker 2

Pat?

Speaker 4

You got to understand that I hadn't done happened that man in twelve years?

Speaker 2

The man asked, you did that happen? No, it ain't happened this man.

Speaker 1

Shall he lie?

Speaker 2

Yes, said.

Speaker 1

Listen, you don't have a chance.

Speaker 4

Man, come again, come again in press place head and when the time.

Speaker 1

You won't have a chance, stand up.

Speaker 2

That's what we do. We're gonna get you here on this one. You guys made the playoffs. Your first couple of years didn't have a whole lot of success. This year you seem to found the quarterback in bow Knicks, who was a rookie, played extremely well. What are the expectations moving forward next year and beyond?

Speaker 7

Yeah, we got great expectations. I think this was just the start, you know what I mean of a long journey ahead. I mean, like you said, Bo, you know, we got a great young core, you know what I mean, And we also got some veterans as well too.

Speaker 1

So now I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 7

I feel like we ended the season on a good note, but not the note that we wanted to because obviously we was, you know, going into that playoff run looking for more, but you know it comes with it. But now since we know how to get there, it's all about sustaining, you know, and finishing the right way and get into that next step. So I think that's a main goal man. It is just you know, building the

right pieces together, you know what I mean. I think with our team right now, I think we're gonna bring everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1

Back together as we should. So I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 7

I think we're gonna even be more homegry just because, uh, you know, we we went to the playoffs and not only that, we got a lot more left in the tank.

Speaker 1

So yeah, it's gonna be I'm excited.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Back shirts, hoodies, beanies, everything you need? Limited edition?

Speaker 2

There it is your po limited edition Randing Defensive Player of the Year, Bronco Country number two pants are ten the second. Congratulations, tell your pops, I said, what's up? Go black? All well with the family, continue success, bro, and you reper you rep in a Bronco country quite well, Bro, myle high salute, all right, yell all right.

Speaker 4

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