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We backed another episode of Club five twenty podcast, Season two. Shout out to the volume. We're on away game right now, but we're still at home. Shout out to all stars born grill got some special guests with a special special guest with us. But to my right, I got the dolls with me. I got Bishop Green leave my dog be hearing out the pear least.

How you what cool? And let's get to it.

You drinking and slushy today? You're acting different. We got company. I ain't never seen any man, I know.

I forgot them at bro Crib. It's all over. We're gonna have a good show with growlers, all right tomorrow? Right my dog young, not your young tig? How you what today? Man?

I'm good, bro. We got family in the building. I kept it class for the today.

By the door.

These one by the door, I had to bring them with me, but I kept it classic niggas on interesting. You got the biggest doll in the world because the very sure you got all your fucking garage.

I just got a messy house. I'm not gonna dive into that last not leave.

We got legends in the building, Legend legends in the building.

One of my favorite people to see.

On YouTube watching these dudes do their thing individually as a team. It's inspiring for people like us coming up in this industry to see real niggas get money together, to work together, to thrive together.

It's amazing.

To my left, you got DC young Fly, Dude, she cold Man, last, not least my dog Carlos are y'all living man, twenty man be here them.

We're nervous. I ain't gonna lie. Y'all was nervous the discount all.

The Mexican grocery store. I was like, this nigga, This is this nigga setting us up. I ain't in that fresh exactly. It ain't nowhere in the world. They got the beauty supply store next to the Mexican grocery store.

Said, y'all thought this was a two be moving for real.

We didn't even part.

I'd be down front center know team really there at all time. I say that team call right now. That's a nigga truck.

They wasn't at the Mexican grocery store all, but man, we appreciate y'all pulling up on this.

Man. Tell them. Why y're in the city. Man.

We got the eighty five South show tonight, man at the the what is it the field House Games game Bridge, Yeah, field House Man.

We in a naptown tonight man.

So you know, we're excited about being able to perform, you know, here, because I don't think we ever did an eighty five South show in Indianapolis before. Ever, we don't been here we have, Okay, well, well it's good to be back then. I don't remember when we came. But we love coming out here because it's so much love.

Man.

So we're excited about, you know, the show tonight and man with the people gonna give us when we get out there.

Well, honey, man, we appreciate you. Ill got to start off with the question. Man.

We had Mike EPs on and he sung y'all praises, and he started off the show talking about while the city he performed there for y'all, what was the craziest place ILL performed then or like one of your like wildest performances you had to deal with?

Shout out that, Mike, that's the O G Yeah, love Mike, Mike said them. Some young old niggas like Jim.

Niggasmell like Jen, it's just.

Stupid for me.

Was Minnesota, Oh Minnesota, Huh, you don't talk about can't go back.

That was in Minneapolis.

Yeah, been city or the state.

They gave me a lot of money and I talked a bunch of it about them. Oh for Reer. They changed my life though. But so you feel like you feel like y'all feel like Minnesota was the best one.

As eighty five.

Individual, Tyler hassee Florida, man men and Low's had a show and Tyler hassee Florida, and they had our food in the men in the men's bathroom, No bullshit. Our green room was in the men's bathroom and niggas was still using the bathroom. They got chicken wings and ship in the men's bathroom. We in the club, nigga, I don't even know what type of club this was. It was probably one of the places they had to male strip shows for the I'm telling you, it was the wildest ship ever.

And we were in there just looking around.

The nigga just kept coming in as we're doing the show, coming in and out of the bathroom with our wings and shit, like you know, nigga in a grocery bag. Like the nigga pulled up. He ain't had the money. At first, he was like, man, I be give me thirty minutes. I'd be right back. I swear to God, I'll be right back. Sitting there like this nigga ain't coming back. And they came back thirty minutes later with the money in the grocery.

Came back with the ugliest money.

The money was so ugly you can tell it had been pieced together because it wasn't like.

It wasn't nothing in the bag bigger than like a ten or.

One of them.

It looked like a whole hor was busting up down like some shirtbody really wasn't.

I said, It was just.

Sometimes it don't be the city that beware, it'd be the show. Like one of the craziest shows I ever had. I performed for about four hundred recovering addicts on New Year's Eve.

Oh man, stay on stage for about three hours, damn because they was it was like it was one of them things where they all get together and they was just so excited to be having fun doing drugs and drinking, and they're.

Just like, no, man, stay up there, stay up there.

Craziest outfit.

I have this old dude in there, you know, not motherfucker a mink coat. He had a mink coat, but it wasn't made a mink first.

It was made of mink skin.

No, it had minks, like a whole bunch of minks, like you could see the whole body. They was like it was they were just like hanging off full body minks.

And I was like, what you like it's a mink coat. And I was like, I don't know if this is a joke for unfinished.

When we had that show, remember we started off it was it's around here. We had that show. I just can't call it out. Remember when we first started, it was brought like one hundred and fifty people in. The promoter was sweat, Who is it like a Masonic?

Yeah? Nah, we did. I think that was when we was we was in Houston. We went in Houston.

Who was in the middle of nowhere around here? It's start with what's the show? People don't people come to.

But they go out for it.

What's the city? I'm sitting around here?

D see that's too vague.

No it ain't, man, it's only you got.

Garyayne Pour, Wayne Terror holl Terror, holl And.

What's the other one?

Not South Begas, go to Lafayette.

We ain't go to Lafier. Everybody skipping it.

Anderson Monthy Bloomington, the nigga that made y'all name every city, and.

It's in Indiana. We gotta do the Googles on that.

Remember the Masonic Temple show.

I remember was that one we was in Houston when the niggas was playing pool and watching TV and ship while we was performing at the same time. Remember we was in Houston, nigga, and we was performing. It wasn't nobody paying to in the whole night I did.

How about when we performed Nigga that.

It is?

Yeah, that is Richard was about.

To say, Look, was like, I'm gona get that motherfucking minute. I had to stay still, Nigga. We started off with two hundred people, bro, it.

Looked like one.

Nobody finished show up. I ain't never seen this ship in my life, nigga.

Like you do.

That was in Indianapolis.

That was the show we did in Indianapolis, nigga, when we had the baseball jerseys on. Yeah, you're talking about ninety five. That was the time we That was the last time and the first time we came, and that like two.

Hundred people show up in the beginning cause were raining and the promoter wild swim because you had to pay me. You had to pay you and it was like another comedian Nigga, I'd be down.

By twenty minutes later. Nigga, it's a line. It was about a thousand people said. It was about a thousand in ten minutes, and Nigga had to pull more chairs up. Nigga had a stupid show.

It was it was people wrapped all the way around people.

He was like, y'all just hold off, like minute, ship just got cood, was gonna say.

When we had this show in Houston, they got a comedy club down there in the daytime.

Miss do you r you? Our driving school.

Got them crazy?

Yeah, yeah, all the way out here. Ball. We had a show and car at a college, Like who.

Call you and you don't want to holler?

Let him?

They be like, man, just come fuck with me. I got I got what you want.

We did a show and Memphis at a college and we went to do the show with nobody in that bitch Nigga. The Nigga put us on a golf cart and took us to all the dorms in the on the college. We was going through the dorms, knocking on doors. Niggas like, oh they really came make they didn't believe. They didn't believe nigga. By the time we got back to the auditorium the show that bitch Pat Damn.

When y'all knew y'all was gonna start doing arena stuff.

When we started having to do three shows in one night.

We had four nice to really be like. I was the one that be like, Bro.

How the fuck are we gonna come up with new ship four times a day and give what these nigga do, We'll figure it out.

I'm like, man, God, yeah, we started having shows like four o'clock on Sunday.

What was that feeling like? Though, Like we made it to a ringing.

So y'all doing four, six, eight, ten, Yeah, God damns to.

The point where it were like we having fun.

But then like we gotta be strategic now you know what I'm saying, We left we had to.

I like to It's is a free game.

I like to go in spaces where we pack out versus going to spaces where it's empty seats that's marketing. Tocognized, like you you need more room. So once we realized we needed more room, we were like, all right, we grew with our fans. Once our fans were like, bron we came out here two years ago, we did one show. Next year, we're doing three folk shows.

All right.

We like to come to the club, but we can't come here and do this shit full time. We got to go into the theaters. Okay, we did two theaters. Today's bigger than the theater.

I think the first one we realized was Jacksonville. When we did Jacksonville, I think that was the first real like arena setting that we did because we had went to Jacksonville the year before and did like four shows in the day at the Comedy Club, and then we came back that next year and we kind of always like, man, big ass spot.

We great dude. And when we walked in that.

Bitch and seen that motherfucker full we was like, oh, nigga, this shit different. Like to see all of those people and you know they there to see us like that was just a different feeling, Like you know, when you fill up an arena like that, it's a different type of energy because you know, when you're in the.

Comedy club, it's more intimate.

You can you know, kind of hear the response of you know, kind of see how the shit is working directly with the people communicat.

But when you in that arena like that, it.

Might take three four seconds for the laugh to even get all the way back to you.

It's so many bull in it's.

And that's why.

And one thing I admire about y'alls y'all work ethic because y'all do a podcast and the show every single week on top of y'all collective eighty five self and then y'all individual, how do y'all like prioritize what comes first? Like how do you manage all that man with the plan? That makes sense because it's just so like for me, like we you know what I'm saying, shout the volume and they asking us for a little bit more.

Now we're in the situation how we're gonna figure that out?

But I see y'all ship y'all own the road every day is still delivering content. Does it help overall with the show or does it like damn, I gotta make most shit to do this shit?

No, it's because it's it's organic.

It's in the moment.

You can tell, like.

We just have the type of talent and the gift where it's like we can express ourselves in anger and it's still be funny. Or we can come in and be in the best mood and just take this ship to all another level. Or we can walk in, like you said, in these places that we describing and be like this ain't shit.

We gotta make it something though it's fucked up.

Were about to act like it ain't fucked up, Like we get to choose our own narrative.

But that crowd changes the whole, changes.

Us the feeling, like we can tell when this is a crowd that fucked with us, and we can tell when it's a crowd that all right, they won't they want us to prove ourself for five minutes.

Oh they want some. They came straight to okay.

Now they loose, Like you can feel that shift when they say, okay, I just wanted to make sure I was at the right shit, Like you feel what the crowd want to hear?

Like how you said that too? Like do y'all get the DJ going to get the crowd loose? Like what do you do to get the crowd loose to.

I mean, go ahead, we just we just you know, it's like like you said, it's organic, like when you just the question you asked. Loos is our big brother, he's our elder. He's been doing this shit longer than

You know what I mean, It's kind of like what I would think that.

And one is like if you playing and one versus the league, like the league is you know, you got to play under the whistle, and one you get to come out there and show it what you can do. So this is kind of like and one in regards to the way the destructure game is. We on both sides of it. But when we come and do this, it's just the fact that we can come out. Sometimes we don't see each other till we at the place we gread performed because we all coming from three different places.

When we show up and do these shows.

That's because I feel like we interpret, Like we get to go out and we get to hear all the shit that other people can't say, and we just have to interpret it for our crap, Like we know the shit like you got a job, you can't afford to save shit and lose your job. Nigga, I come to your job and say that shit.

You know what I'm saying.

So it's like we have to kind of be the voice of the people, and they don't even know how much of an influence of our style of comedy that they are. Like sometimes we get off stage and we're like, Bro, did you see this shit?

Man?

You gotta talk about this shit, not as not like don't talk about it from the eighty five South perspective, talk about it how you would talk about it at your show, like you telling your crowds.

Because we all.

Got individual crowds and they all come to our individual shows and they let us know, Man, I called Chico, call DC, I had to come see you or you know what I'm saying, vice versa. So these people tell us exactly what to say, what to do, what type of show they want to see, because we put these shows out every week and we're seeing what they respond to. Like we could easily go out there and do our sets or do a set or give them stand up comedy, but they want to see us be stand up comedians.

The guys they know and the guys they sent on the internet.

They want us to all right, fuck them jokes, do something, man, she go make up a song, my nigga. I bought this ticket just to see y'all. Wrap y'all all your laughing and joking. We came to this song talk about talking about them hole, you don't see the point out like hey, up for y'all got out here like this the type of ship they want to see. So we're just doing a great job of interpreting that.

That's a good way you said it, man, like y'all legitimate entertainers like sorry, y'all being like y'all, you can tell us organic like the what is y'all be starting them songs off? You would think that ship been written, but I could tell you get the freestyle all but like that ship's crazy nigga styling.

You call the freestyle this nigga music, I Q is fucking I was just about all the charge.

How the fuck do you be remembering all those fucking songs?

I thought I was a historian nigga. You different.

Yeah, it's you know, I don't know, to be honest with you, might be a slight form of autism, to be honest.

Dogs gotta be.

Like, if we had to write a classical music song, I'm going to get Chico. If you written a country record, a pop record, jazz. This man fucked with every genres. Yeah, I mean that's that's you know, just growing up. That was something that was given to me from the dudes

You know.

It was kind of like looking for validation from the people I wanted to give me, you know, the love that I wasn't getting from, you know, not having my pops around, and that kind of what created the love.

For the music.

And my uncle Ricky of DJ, so I would go down to his room in the basement, and this nigga would just sitting and just play me records all day long, like and he would mix and scratches record. So that's and then my aunt Mary had a big record collection, and when she cleaned up on the weekend, she would let me sit down and go through the record collection and I would just pick what I wanted to hear based off of what the cover of the album looked like.

So it was just all the way.

And that's like that musical inclination, because like this nigga, can't nobody freestyle better than this nigga, like me with the musical inclination of being able to coming up with it. And this nigga is one of the most talented niggas in the world. When it comes to put this, he's like a Swiss Army knife. This nigga know how to do a little bit of everything. Good, play the drums, skateboard, cut here, you know what I mean, all types of shit.

But this is happening right in front of your eyes. You know what.

This nigga do when that nigga was skiing down the bigg That's so what I'm sayingthing.

Man, I'm talking about down some hills. Well listen, before you go down the slope. I'm like, I'm tripping. Fuck it, mile per hour's stroking that. But that's for me to get them know the mountain. Once I know the mountain, I'm like, man, I'm finna.

Come back up here the mountain. Oh you got to cause you nature, you got to respect it.

If I'm finna come down this mountain, I ain't finna come down this mountain like, Oh, I'm a nigga that ski No, I'm a nigga that escaped first off, so that may I know how to hold my balance. These ain't number some long as roller blades. So what I gotta do is adjust to what this is. So once I started adjusting, and I was like, oh, okay, can you how I am? Ma Mama put me in everything. But I always thought, like I don't want to be here.

What made you start taking music so serious?

I mean because I grew up in music since since I grew up in church choir. I grew up and I played all type of instruments. I played all the percussion. I'm a percussionist to me, So you played percussion. We're from the same lend you you play.

And my mama older the motherfucker, and I'm the youngest side of ten kids. So you know what time it is on the same type of time's younger.

My mama coat, you're hanging off the side of ear leg.

I stopped talking about your mama.

Hey mama, I'm sorry.

Right there, my.

Disrespectful what it really is, and she just sitting there like that's my baby.

Talk about your oldest sibling is sixty.

Your oldest brothers my baby oldest brother. Yeah you you are you man? What you say you're a grand brother. Yeah, I got a grand brother, older brother. No, no, but I come from that man. You gotta watch out from church drummers.

Mama.

Yeah, Well, I'm a dumb a drummer.

Too, but yeah, we have a battle every week to go And I say, jay Z, to goat you the music man.

I love, I would love enough because Kurt how you here man.

Sixty this thing is talking about future in jay Z. What I'm saying is that's just who I prefer. I respect Jason.

He said we had a show one time. He was like future to goat man. I was like he better than jay He was like.

Hell yeah that to me and I love I respect music for sure, jay Z. So far as lyricists give me jay Z, I'm just talking about the hold.

On know to me future, help that whole.

Hands you know what I'm saying, Future to me, help that whole.

Like now, it's more niggas like future than it is niggas like, oh, you don't.

Believe that retweet rapping. You don't even believe it.

Believe I'm not he's making it, and you explain the other set.

You know what I'm saying. Are you saying best in to me?

Agree? Because why do we as a community we have to put somebody better than I'm not.

I don't come. Why do we do that?

We don't have to what I'm telling y'all niggas personally, who I prefer. I'm listening to the future before.

Your preference.

That's my preference.

You got a preface that because you can have right.

Like musically, I got a personal top five and then I got a top five that is, you know, the top five based on statistical categories and the way everything, So that top five is a little different than my personal top five, you know what I mean. But as far as like, if you're comparing the two, that's unfair.

The future and absolutely you tell me I gas future too much. I don't imagine my favorite.

I just named five of the most opposite as things that they said just to piss some mo.

They be dead just like them.

No, me and him got a beef when it comes to my top.

My top five, that's here, my top five for sure.

I'm from the South, so I understand where you may be coming from. I'm a t I for my top five shut out to tip Paul, Yeah all day.

I know almost every word song like song worth work, Uh, her relations with top five album.

Feel mob.

Field mat Cast and Uh that's a nasty ass is crazy.

It's between this between Joe the breeze or a little boost for the last for the last spot.

Yeah, that's a wild wow.

It's a personal respect my musical talent. Why I'm like, like.

Why you're jabb walking another ship. I understand, but I'm saying, like, you're not gonna judge here STARp five.

I don't listen to nothing. No, that's what I'm trying to day. But that's what we gotta. We gotta say preference or game because he always let me hear your playlist, jay Z, Biggie, Uh Drake and Little Wayne. That's his top five. That's about his playlist?

Is it?

Don't pass two thousand and eight. I don't listen to nothing Heavy Webby. Yeah, you come to my house and it's a party. I'm stuck in two thousand and seven below music.

We gotta say, Okay, your top five that you like, and then you got a playlist that you listen to. I'm gonna be one honer. I don't even listen to none of them. I just name unless I'm just on that type of time. My every day I'm r and bad out the g.

Oh, y'all gotta listen for you when we leave eighteen hours, I got.

You r and bad out eighteen hours and motivational speeches.

I got a little bit of that too. Your motivational speech, I love it. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Chico, who you who? Your top three? We do your top three?

Top three? What my personal top three rappers?

Rappers?

Top three?

You don't get fat? Yeah, I don't even get five. Niggas said, you can do your five. Don't do your five.

You know my personal top five rapp was pop mm hmm, pimpsy mm hmm, Scarface, twist, the master, p.

Get started on. Man got a whole different top five crazy. The line is just so different.

And one thing I gotta say too, I saw the you on PA podcast. Y'all, dude, you're doing that performance. It's crazy to me, Like going back to you.

Just remember that was my mama's favorite song like that. That's how I would always know when the nigga woul break up with my mama, like she would she would play that song in the morning, mad that whatever the situation she had going on, and that's the song she would play Superwoman, you know what I'm saying.

So I played that at my mother's funeral. But It's like as.

Far as me, like remembering music, it only takes me two or three times and listening to a song at least be able to get the first to where if I'm listening to it, you wouldn't think that I only listened to it three times, just the way that ship registered in my mind, you know. But as far as as far as like what I listened to every day as man, you wouldn't know who the phone belonged to if you looked at my playlist, Like I listened to listen to all types, and it's crazy because I never won.

That's his music.

Got to be with Christians, fuck to like that got to be man like for real, like like that, what do thetisode about that? Like they have? Yeah, like you gotta this, you know what I mean? So so you might catch me. You might catch me listening to niggas I'm.

Trying to someone Rob.

I'm just not.

Over there.

But you know, just the I think that the musical influence of all of us, like we all like this nigga didn't put me on the ship. This nigga and put me on the ship. We didn't all put each other like this nigga put me onto a song by a nigga named me Throne called Loving each Other for Life. My listening to this ship for two and a half hours straight, no stop, back.

To back the guy.

It's just that's the beauty of music to me, Like you no matter.

If you ain't never heard.

You don't know, you don't even know a third of it, Like you know what I mean, it's so much that you ain't never heard before.

So I got a question. I know y'all DC said we shouldn't compare. Just what y'all prefer? Cash money or no limit?

Nah, strick question.

That's a trick question in the era. And what what both got?

Understand because not only just for New Orleans, because no Limit did a lot for snoop shout outs to the lineage you feel shouldn't have to pick.

You really respectful as a motherfucker for asking us this question, some disrespect because.

I said, who you prefer?

It depends on what day it is. You can't pick between no Limited, can you? I'm gonna give you.

It depends on your age limit.

If you are your nigga, you are a cash money nigga. But if you're an older nigga, you gonna pick no Limit because cash money is a younger version of a no limit That's the fact.

That's all you know.

I ain't rolling, but I'm letting you know as a forty year old black man, Yes, sir, when cash money records took over for the nine to nine in the two thousand, I was the niggas he was talking to Freeze.

My generation made them babies off them songs.

Do you know that there are twenty three, twenty four, twenty five year old people walking around right now because of my generations responsibility during the summer up the nine nine in the two thousand, speakers them my homeboys, kids from my classmates, off springs, the girls who.

Was bringing the game cash money. Because he was back in that ass up that whole look heard, look at you. But I also was there with all the bad business in the club.

Had a no limit tattoo right there on that coaching.

Come on, I remember being still remember the first time I heard swamp Niggas. We was in my man Matt basement. Was in Matt basement, Man, I heard when it was new Matt Brother.

They had no commercial, no promo for that ship.

You just had to listen to the whole album because Swamp Nigga wanted to.

Laugh one of the last song on All You album, but Matt Brother tapes. He was in the streets.

He had all that, he had all of the different music, and so we used to sneak downstairs and listen to all the music. When that Swamp niggas came on, I was like, Nigga, what the fuck is this nigga? Man masterpiece that you couldn't tell us that nigga wasn't an ice cream man was?

There was a moment.

The world stop and it was a lyric who when that nigga missed the sid hum.

The lightning in bad weather?

I'm that nigga on that picture on your girlfriend dressing.

That was hard. That was hard. That's a classic one.

So Nigga, when you would buy a No Limit c D, you would look in the book and see all of them albums that's coming out. You don't know who, none of them niggas was, but you was buying that ship. Remember, tried to get buy me schull Douggery. Nigga know what the cagg was, but I wanted that because that's why No Limit Bro's called douggery.

My nigga called and on the bottom when they said, oh no way, they listen eighty five.

Never heard of But because people believe the exactly so you can't.

You can't, man, you can't make that choice.

Man.

That's a that's a that's hard.

Yeah, that's because about cash money. But I know no limit was se No no.

Limit gave us hope.

Cash money made us feel like we already had money. We felt like we had money with them. Yeah, but Master P reminded us that we hood niggas. I'm from the Project. I grew up on eggs and lunching me. This ship is forever. That's fire. Many good nigga. Every word you can't me. I feel like murder is my brother too.

That's how.

Cash money hot boy too about getting out come on man, I almost said free bg.

I'm glad you're Yeah.

Welcome home, Jose home stress free questions you asked it. I gotta ask you as an as an ex NBA player, as somebody that played on the highest level. With your opinion on the Jordan Lebron debate matter, you know what I mean.

Jordan Lebron, Jordan's like over there ship he don't he don't exists really to me, like he like unbelievable. He can't even be talked about, Like it's like Lebron. Then you start talking about everybody, but like Jordan's.

His own work, like Jordan's like Michael Jess talking about compare him You can always compare Lebron to Jordan because he's the greatest. But Jordan is like a right usher Chris Brown, like over here.

You got like this, it's like Michael Jackson from Indiana. So Michael Jackson definitely over there.

That's how good Michael Jordan is. We all grown man's men and we still know that. Like you wouldn't say the wrong this podcast is let Mike hear it. I see that, nigga, you believe Mike and hoop today.

But this is I had to respect with Lebron.

When you look at stats, this motherfucker's in top three everything everything.

He got the most fuckers ever, you cannot you you cannot.

Say he's not the greatest. He may not be the most entertaining.

Lebron.

No, it's cool, but when I say entertainer, I'm a dog bro like I'm one of the ones that got that, like the Russell Westbrook and.

All that job.

Like that's me, Like you got control the own this andire.

What Lebron did was he took it by storm of business. I'm know how to control this as a business, but you know how to control it as a business, use it as a marketing to to be like, Okay, let me go get all the dollars. I'm not gonna get all the dollars because of I play good. I'm gonna get all the dollars because one of you niggas is gonna get on the post card today.

We're gonna make that everything.

Top three everything, everything.

But I like Electricity unbelievable because the role he had to take, it's different.

Like man, that's what I'm saying, Like, I look, I respect Jordan's you know, watch you know, I mean, Jordan is, like you said, he's a godlike figure. But that nigga ain't had to do what bron had to do. They watching bronsin is this nigga was in the sixth grade. This nigga had been tired to be the next greatest sense the sixth grade and held that up for thirty years.

My time.

You got to think Brown look up at Jordan like he looked at Jordan's.

Like everybody does. That's why, yeah, but everybody does.

Came back and showed y'all niggas. That's why I just put him over there because it's like we.

All look everybody, did you know what I mean?

I guess It's a little different for me because Iverson is my personal goat, Like that's my personal goat. Like when Iverson had more of an impact on me as a basketball player, any athlete him as an athlete had more impact on not just me and my community. Like niggas wanted to be like Ai. Niggas wanted to be like Mike, and that's true, but not the way we wanted to be Wizards. We wanted to be like Ai.

Yeah, it's different, y'all talking about off the course ship.

That's not in compass.

That's that not in consience the debate and that's that's that not encompassed. Why you know you got to put that because we never got to see Mike in this era because you imagine, you know how they say Mike be carrying niggas.

I don't know if you ever met Mike before, but I be talking to niggas because.

A bitch as niggas.

Kevin Harverson changed the game, though, like to talk bad to Mike talk band what you might be talking about Michael.

Call you a whole ass nigga walk off. They call you a whole walk off. You're gonna take it because you know that she.

I mean, see how you did when you said, the first time you met him, what's up.

A little bit?

Yeah, that's a true story, and said might join people from New Orleans and that's just how they talk.

What's up a little bit?

That's what Kevin said. That's how you just talked to me. I would say that.

You don't act like y'all.

Don't know niggas from Florida and Louisian. All right. So he told me to take off his shoes one game.

I have put on some Bordo sevens to hoop in the game, trying to impress him, Like, damn if I hooping some George, I get a Jordans deal. No, he like, hey, motherfucker, who told you can wear them?

Hey? Can you get my other shoes off the bat? Testing this game? I'm saying, NBA, how did that feel when I told you? Who told your bitch to put them shoes? I got nervous. I'm like, get my other shoes off the back?

Got them on there?

Yes, I was just playing he did. After a while, he was like, why you take him off? I was like, shaid take him off.

He was like, I wouldn't be able to take it. I was like, I respect y'all.

I'm gonna have to say, bitch ass nigga, nigga, fuck your jeans, nigga, wind, don't blow, You're gonna fly away for real.

Nick, he loved Jordan Fat Jean.

But then what I'm saying though, Lebron is the goat of today's era.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't see nobody beating him.

All right, But was the niggas your favorite players or did y'all like low key niggas growing up? You know how some niggas like man I with.

Man Oh yeah, one of my one of my favorite players, you know what I'm saying, that was one of my favorite because I you know, I played ball, so like that was like watching those what's my man name that played for Indiana? Uh men, Brevin Knight for.

The Pacers night last night, last night place, I'm.

Thinking, that's my that's a filthy niggas, Yeah, boy, you know what I mean, Like it's a bunch of players with Steve Jackson, he goes stupid.

Yeah.

I got a question about Steve Jackson, so.

He said, you really have fifty million in the championship, okay instead of a one hundred million.

And I won a championship.

But I had a saying when we first started the show, I was like, fuck a championship, give me a max deal.

He rebutted with the fifty million ring. Whatever. How y'all feel about that?

I feel like you take away from the from the from the dog like. See, I'm a I'm a guy who liked to see dog fight. That's why I feel like the older era was more such of a a tougher error because they was dog fighting to win them championship. The people who Michael Jordan had done stopped like a charge barclet.

They was some elite players.

They was everybody can kind of take a turn down to get a championship because niggas ain't dogs. They trying to go to this team to win the championship and go to that team, and all right, fuck it, since I ain't gonna win the championship, give me the money and then I play barely because I'm already paid.

Nah, they ain't true, hold on, we want to win, but nigga. It's a time situation. You know, like you ain't gonna like you know your team.

I ain't saying not gonna gets right now Tray Young and did John tell you look at me like we we can win, but we probably ain't gonna be. They gotta gotta build a team around them, put two people over there.

So do you not take your money? No, I ain't say take my money.

Eventually the fight for the championship is gonna rub off. And that's all you're gonna care about three four, six years. You don't win on championship, I'm gonna just be good enough to get it back cool. It's like, damn, bro, you don't want to take it.

To money first, then I go get the championship.

I'm taking the money and I'm gonna just buy me a ring for every time this conversation.

Up because a lot of these niggas is to get.

There one of them fund up situations where you the best player on the worst team. No matter what the fuck you do, they never gonna win the championship. You don't have You don't have the ship you need to be a championship team.

Like you dog a dog, he's dog gonna.

Be plenty of dogs that never win a championship.

Charles Berkley one of the best players that never won a championship, and you can't deny that ship.

He did bring me somebody, what's the reality. He probably ain't gonna win a championship. He's stay in Portland. But I wouldn't say he win a dog or he ain't.

So what you're saying, take less money to go win the championship over here.

I wouldn't do first of him staying over here.

But like no, cause Nigga, I built the franchise, I run this gym. You agree with us, I'm taking comfortability.

This is my gym when you're up.

No.

No, people that nobody gives a funk about Sweet Listen said they don't want a championship, gives the fucking It's going to be like you want to champion ship.

As When I said that, that's clubs say Nigga's name, but niggas really don't fucking this ship to them. Y'all was a great players, but you don't even remember the niggas that wanted to chance.

You have a great name, but until the champions say, shut the funk up, you got shut the funk.

When I'm up one hundred million, caw about you up? You're still chipping playing in the same league.

You just got luck.

You would never be chill. You probably wasn't even the reason why y'all won. You got in the world.

Never be a tim You don't know what that feel like.

They ain't never had a fit.

That's that's my that's my like.

I just I think that the numbers is funny in the in that argument when the niggas say I take fifty million over one hundred million, so that ring.

I got fifty million extra dollars talking about the man if you clean, you ain't even saying they go to another team and they offer it.

You talked about a nigga who was the franchise of Somewhere no Here.

You missing the point what you say nigga said in general? Are you wanting to brother?

You gotta sitting on You have to send up the circumstance. This is about business.

He told you. Didn't say that. He only gave me the deal.

He never said what team I played for my circumstance because it's business.

What business?

Did you take fifty dollars over a hundred.

Speaking of dang Dame terms, take fifty over that when I'm the man here, give me a hunch here and we'll build.

Us and people who win.

Fu you man for fifty what you've been doing?

Or go fast? Did he not take the trail Blazers? How far do they go?

Because don't come final his levels to range this Chile get it.

Around as as levels to rings, like it's level of rings.

So if you take fifty, you know what I'm saying, If you take fifty million dollars, if you take fifty million dollars to win a ring, and.

You could have got a hundred million.

Dollars to play in a market where after your career, you're gonna be able to flourish in that market after you leave the market. But you went and took fifty million to win a championship in Milwaukee, Nigga. Like it's like it's a difference in regards to the way that you win championships and the way that you get money in the NBA. From my perspective, I ain't never been before, but you can attest to this, like.

That's what I'm saying. If the Boston win the Championshie hundred million dollars.

Team just got fifty way got to fifty to.

Say, what if that two fifty ain't got shit to do with basketball after game, That's what I'm saying.

Champagne showers and ship.

Well, at the end of the day, when y'allniggas retired, mother fucker gonna say brode.

Right, I take fifty over one hundred to win a ring.

That's gonna be one of them rings that nigga's gonna talk about in twenty years. Like I'm not doing We didn't we are we dealing with cap space, But I'm gonna tell it, with cap space, we're doing this.

I'm speaking busy, We're doing this ship all wrong.

Why don't we just say gym, I'm telling you, I'll tell you he already never turned down money for a ring like that's what the board down to. It don't matter like at the end of the day, not to shout him out like that, but Antoine Walker, he won a ring. But when we talk about him, we talk about he lost his money or whatever.

So I'm never.

Gonna because he didn't win a ring in one of them places death want Miami.

But when with on what team with Jack and that's what I'm saying, like to be able to take fifty million to get one of those rings. If I'm a nigga like a Antoine Walker, i take the fifty million because I'd have already made one. But I'm not taking so I'm not I'm not making fifty doing circumstanceship.

We're talking about nigga fifty years all you get.

That, don't yeah like that?

Okay, I'm thinking that's what the argument was.

You may tell me I got make fifty with a ring or one hundred with no ring.

No, that's because I'm because I'm the nigga that's gonna make money off my fifty. Now this was affect people don't all that money cause they blowing that ship anyway.

Now we're gonna text yo yo yo.

Your situation, for example, went to the Hawks, It paid you good, went everywhere with the they played you good, went and got your ring with the Bucks. You settled for what you wanted. That was a great team. You know what it feels like to be a chippie.

Yeah, but that somewhere else there you go, we gave it up. That's the fucking game.

Don't get distracted by the fucking deprisess. Like he said, he told the story like these motherfuckers to say, hey, tomorrow your ass out of here.

And you got a minimum window to make as much money as you can. So how about this.

You got a minimum winner though, right, but they only giving out these contracts maybe like three four years. You're not getting eight year country like baseball. All right, I'm gonna give you three three year fifty mil. Right, you go over here and win this. I'm gonna do this to set up for the one fifty for the next four.

We gotta get there though, win, We gotta win. That's what I'm saying.

If I took the fifty and we wanted if we win, you now we're still speaking hypothetically.

Just keep speaking. We want a champion. I got at before I'm going to another team to get my money.

The year that they want to Chip, they played the nets, right Kyrie and KD. If it wasn't for that little sending me their KD hitting that shot.

The nigga don't know we're talking about it. Championship, that's what you're saying. No, I think they beat this about fifty one guys.

There was no probably with the Chip okay, but you can't gauge that, right, shit happens.

In the NBA. That's some injury ship, right. You can guarantee that money though, And.

Then the thing is you went ring.

That's a perfect example.

Like Katie my Nigga.

I love Katie, like that's my favorite player in the NBA now, and that Nigga win and running rings and everybody is like, Nigga, where you went and cheated for two years to win the ring. Nigga, you went over there and cheated, And it's like, what difference do it make if they gonna chastise the ring.

They can't chanstise the hundred million. They can never.

That's the only money they they can't never chastise the money. But when you win that ring, Nigga, they gonna immediately chastise the ring. Once you win the ring, they were like, well, if it wasn't for this, then if it wasn't for that, But if it wasn't for this, But when I go to the bank, the one hundred million is a hundred million. Whether I got a ring, if I ain't got no fingers.

That still.

Give me Carmelo Anthony career and off the court, have a great that one. I'll go about one. They sell rings and they said the weekends screen jackets.

Nigga, you can probably money ring and the jackets because they ain't financially. They didn't do what they're supposed to do, what a lot of niggas do.

So now we're in the n b A. I just got got one hundred million and fifty min exactly.

So right now we're in the NBA because we're in the highest this is the highest level.

Win the NBA just for the money. Now, no money gonna come now. The niggas compete. They want to win, but that's where the compete come from. For the you know, compete.

I'm trying to get boxing, bro, you got it, not boxing.

The niggas you gotta play with if.

You ain't doing your job.

But I'm doing mine, like one hundred from the nigga that's on the outside looking at it.

I can't mad when y'all need to get paid all that money. No, it don't show the fuck up. I got niggagain.

I want to pay a thousand names.

Nick can't go to a point I slept because you don't even know he like this nigga making the million, give him the ball.

Yeah, that's that's what I was just about to say. You you've been around long enough to understand niggas something. A lot of niggas bro is out here really playing for individual contracts. My team is sad, nigga. I'm trying to average twenty five because I know me average twenty five is gonna guarantee me a MAX deal.

I'm trying to tell you, So why would I get mad at the nigga making more money than me?

Ain't sure get you know what I'm going to do?

Ball?

Take my team to the chip to show you. Hey, man, renegotiate at what they're paying you.

For what.

You gotta know you're telling me my content.

I'm only making money to do a specific thing. They brought that nigga here to do one thing that thirty points, bitch, we brought you. Rebound you saying you sad, you want.

To shoot you like Nona.

That was real life, like they like, get the ball to Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Horford, Marvin Williams.

Run to the you know, I mean picking rocks the snigger, n this niggas a dog and get your shoot. I was in.

The NBA at some point. I got to learn how to play out of the whistle like.

You had thirty.

I had a game in Minnesota one time I was killing and I shot a mid range jumper one time.

I tell that story. I shot it like a midy and made it. I made it to go into the half and they was like put me to the soud was like, you don't want to be here no more?

Do you?

Hu?

I was like the Fu'm like yeah, Like if you shoot another mill range jumping, you won't play no more for a templewar. And he's like what the fuck? He's like, want threes and layups. I'm like, damn, I might be out the loop in the league because I ain't know. I couldn't shoot right there. But that ship you gotta go through. You don't know that.

Everybody this niggas think the NBA is you team. They got motherfuckers they want doing. But that's the point.

When I'm in the ANU team, I want to be a don but.

You can't do that when you play for an organizer. But don't train the kids like that. My nigga training put saying on the rebound. But my nigga, they gonna do it. When you get the NBA. He was the first option on.

The team, but he had to learn how to play a role once he got around other stars.

Give Joe the motherfucker ball, nigga, wi't give a fuck what you did. That way a bad game. It ain't Josh. We lost.

Always wanted to Josh the first Josh Marvin A. You gotta get these motherfucker ball get to the corner.

Thing that's coming in and play.

When I was in, I went to Winston tell them state, okay, yeah, so I can't see you ball that way forward.

And I got to shoot there. Yeah. Yeah.

He was no NBA jail that nigga was. I mean, did you go to.

The n b A like the don the NBA. This nigga after like this, come on xst come, come come on, come on to.

Know the niggas. You niggas ain't never did that in the n b A. And you have you can have a great game and they like, I mean, what the fuck is you doing.

A good game?

But they'd be like, all right, good game. So how do you become a great? How do you become one of them? They have to you have to be hand picked, get lucky.

You gotta be like in the right situation, like when join them left, it was my chance to like flourish right right, But like I keep using Trey Young, like the Hawks, he came in, they like team here, you go do your thing.

Right, I don't have for everybody.

Yeah, it's you probably think about college.

That's why can you feel for where Dame coming from? If I came into a situation, I know how that ship go. Why the funk would I leave the trail Blazer and go over and put myself in an uncomfortable situation. Well, I don't even like how the Lakers trying to make uh Rush look like he just Westbrook.

Was a dog.

Situation.

I know that, But I'm like, it's crazy when you know Russell.

Lakers.

But then it's and then it's and then you have in the NBA.

You have to guarantee situational situations that happened in the NBA where you have like a nigga like Jeremy Lynn, who you know what I mean that come off the bench.

And have a run of eight nine games and get fifty million dollars. So you can have ship like that happened.

But it's uncommon because the structure of the NBA game is this is it is entertainment. It's entertainment. At the end of the day, that ship is entertainment. We put all of the on this on. Oh man, I don't know them niggas got a ball and man, I watched that ship the same way I watched wrestling.

Nigga niggas watching the game.

Like see they just get this nigga a hundred dollars at the Steam game because not knowing this literally fucked because he gotta switch his whole game up and learn the system. If Dame was in his position, vice versa. My nigga gonna do the same thing in Portland.

The Dame.

When when when?

When? When?

When?

When Westbrook was at the he was the double double Trip and double King.

Was he not.

Bakers?

And they was like, look who he's playing with on the list? You gotta switch your game up. You just proved my poor he played with a b and Lebron Bro is different. Yeah, you can't just be out there being it's different.

Man.

That should have made me, I'm sorry, I got You're going to the officer for some church whoever. Niggas, Man, you don't like me, beat me up to get me out of here.

Ship right after the game, they're gonna pay seventeen million dollars.

Oh god, that can't take off.

You shouldn't have said that ship, you said.

And then when you hear I'm right there on the car, I was in here already gonna call you.

That.

Another question for you always like the ass NBA players, is who the best player you ever played with that w ain't ever heard of?

That's plays you probably never heard of.

Y'all probably heard of him though, But Jordan Crawford craw he played in the Big Three this past season, but.

He went to examer name Jordan Crawford.

Call so, in your opinion, what stops niggas like that from getting to the next level and succeed.

Opportunity, I mean he had some good years. He had a year where I think it's rookie year. He had like thirty eight on Lebron. But like opportunity for real, because you think about how you say, like with Jeremy Lynn, right, Jaman went crazy and that next year they went to Carmelo like what you're gonna do and they was like, yeah, go ahead and sign back if you want to. Now, Jams Lennard Houston he ain't care about none that shit you was just doing. Whoever that big gone, Hey, that's cool.

Like Jordan Poole, Look at Jordan Poole.

Yeah, that ship that man crossed the nation. Got know how Big Lynn sanity was snaking New York.

Yeah, I remember, I remember that.

Ship going crazy.

They got nigga right the because motherfucking mellow like, no, this t Bow season is over, with this done, docar Dang, it's a pecking order broke real ship.

That's why you see niggas on the podcast mad As.

I don't know why, mother I saw when I realized that ship was just business and the players was out there playing and just doing what the fuck they do, whether they succeed or fail. Like you said, people who in charge of this ship just have a bad day and say, man, get him the funk out of here.

Happened in the gym.

Fuck.

You don't want to say you want to be You want to have a good product. You want to go out there and show will so you can get paid. Never shooting job. Really, if you come later, you get fine.

Open.

Yeah, but you look at somebody like Dennis rob Dennis Robbins laying the NBA and rebounds for like eight years straight and the it's all that Nigga had forty five rebounds.

Roll, don't you shoot ship. I didn't even go up there and be a dog. He was cool with that, but he was the best that he was. That's a lot of people.

That do that.

Be good that I'm saying, have to find a way for me to be great.

Be good at your role. Listening ye bad. Pat Allen is a perfect example. That's why he's still in the league. Bro. He mastered his role. That Nigga used to average thirty in height.

You know the best way to compare it, it's like wilding out, Bro, It's just like wilding out when we show up on a wild like it's.

Just like that you're talking about the road.

Food exactly.

That's what I'm saying.

Exactly when we show when certain motherfuckers show up, they don't.

Even talk to us. They be like, all right, the rest of you niggas sit around in the circle and sing niggas.

You know what I mean like, it's just that I would assume that that's the type of environment you got motherfuckers that can show up and do what they want to do, because you know that when the when the lights come on and when the they throw that ball up in the here, Niggas know what you're gonna do. Niggas know what you're gonna.

Get that ship that hundred million not by a great passer. Yeah, you look at Mike comes you just want me to three Mike averaging eleven.

Nigga up, niggaty. Especially if you don't shoot, you're gonna do something.

They don't want you to shoot. They gonna put the mother fuckers out there they want to shoot. Your job is to get the brother, Nigga. You gotta do whether we win back one hundred or we lose that if you do the ship that they tell you to.

Do, you you can elevate its opportunity.

But nigga's opportunity for you.

It's an opportunity for you and motherfucking Houston right now. You can go down to Houston right now and play all the shooting guards you want to play and go twenty two and sixty one.

Nigga. That's gonna be your record or go to.

The Big three called Cuba. LA's up with the Big Three. If you can't follow these orders that we got here.

You go to Europe.

Shot.

I'm grabbing these young niggas too now where you can't eat nothing over there, and you're gonna ship the.

Call if you want to no bus all the dogs.

We have to show who played overseason like the like they're doing a bed like ship.

Gonna have a week TV that ship. He had a guid over there. He was a China over the week.

That Nigga was working out the work about.

The magic playing in Puerto Rico. Nigga, what about it.

Saying he might be over that, not even in the in the international league.

He on the league.

Imagine, imagine niggas like I said in jail niggas and I'm talking about this some niggas that's in motherfucker century that could have went live, but you'll never see them.

SIGs ain't like that. I understand the shot paying the nigga ain't shoot ship. We got the school, no, but you shoot his shots and your ass on the bitch.

So how do we know if he's his shots and he's like he like like look at.

It, like why let's say you go out and do some ship right and just the nigga just run out and be like move DC.

I got it.

I ain't gonna like imagine somebody else about to get paid. Show term you a free agent. So niggas doing that on wilding out.

Niggas go for what they know. Everybody get a shot.

But it's just it's really.

Go ahead, go ahead.

But but the thing about it is if you if you give a nigga that shot and he got that type of ambition, but don't got the talent to go with it, and you it's only gonna be so many times you let this nigga try and shoot a brick nigga like he don't shoot that ship no more.

My, you just never dream shout to the dream he used to sit. Course, out of all the.

Games, dream came a lodge one the singers.

He was, you told myself you never let a nigga that sing bro, no telling clean.

I was.

I'm like my second year. He like, t keep working, baby, keep working.

I'm like, yeah, Jamal Cropper was on my team. I faked the balls all shot. He said, nigga, don't you ever do that ship, It was like, fuck you, the game talked to me since that day.

No, when I came back to the what's so, I think it's.

Been too much fun. We gotta get then up out of here because you get to work, get the night games. It's gonna be the only championship better than motherfucker man we are.

Got Before I go, I gotta NBA question. You know what I mean, y'all?

You know you make so much money in the league, and you know what I mean, just understand the bread. What's the most money you ever blew nigga that you like? Nigg What the fuck did I just do? Like tripping, tripping like the one where you look back on now and be like, man, I was tripping.

I'm pretty cheap.

So I'll probably be like I went to the club one time and blewe like twenty five thousand on what.

Pretty cheap nigga?

You about to say?

Wrong with you? That was just a.

Team?

Clear, I just I went to one OA in New York, New York.

If I'm just.

Disappointed that story.

When ship you riches, fucking you're gonna tell me about the team you spent twenty five thousand dollars, A lot of funny to be out of you. I blew that last weekend trip. You tripping to Nigga. Y'all know what can you twenty five on?

What?

That's why?

It's all on you, motherfucker. Oh, ain't we about to be done and that we will get up out of here?

Appreciate eighty five south Man Love many appreciate, Thank y'd for having us. Man absolutely keep teaching the ball. We'd be back next week. Shout to the patriarch game.

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I saw them too, They threw up so