Took'd Presents: WAS IT A KIDNAPPING? (Episode 2)

know what's going to trigger you. For example, I had to renew my license today, and that's when it hit me. I remember when Greg was stuck in a D n B waiting room and he was there for so long. He was so miserable. He's he got really really cold, and he just screamed at every employee there, and then he bumped his way to the front of the line just from screaming. And sometimes I think about that store

and I just I just missed him. So, you know, I hope wherever he is he's close to escaping coming home to me, because you know, I know, I know when my baby gets a temper, he can make a rash decision that affects everybody around him. And that's what I think is going to lead him to escape his his captors. So just talking about my husband makes me so emotional. But I'm actually really lucky here today to have an expert with me to talk about my husband's

vicious probably kidnapping. Um a real doctor, your doctor, right? Yes? I am a doctor. Yes, okay, forensic doctor that's like fingerprints and stuff. Dr Pat Newberry? Um, pat, Dr Pat? Uh? Yeah, what's your whole deal? Thank you for having me on. I've been a forensic scientists for fifteen years. I went to the University of Chicago to get my PhD in forensics. Oh, thank you. Yes, and I had a specification in hair follicles. Um, well, I have a book coming out next fall. These crimes

are solved because I do selve almost all the crimes. Okay, that is freaking incredible. I have some of my husband's hair, But do I have to break it out now that I keep sort of privately and like a little vile. If the hair was pulled or fallen out in or around the time that your husband disappeared, then yes, it would be very important to look at these hair follows from prior stuff like a day prior, because even then that could have some relevance to the case, or even

two days sometimes. No, this is just from other stuff like the shower and whatever. I'll just like put it in a little old because that's not helpful. Um no, not unless we're, you know, comparing DNA samples. Okay, Well, I got I got other ship here. Um, I do have this pen. Okay, I'm not going to touch it. I'm gonna kinda elbow it towards you. Okay, Well you don't have to do Okay, loves would be kidnapped preferable, but this is fine. Should I drop that? Should I

drop that? Okay? Oh gosh, sorry, okay, well I have other stuff. I have other stuff. I mean, we can take a look at the pen. We can see what Yeah, check it out. Yeah, okay, it looks like a professional pen. It has a hotel name on it. Yeah, he loves going here? Oh okay, well did you call the hotel? This? This could be a first clue. This is l park. I called this hotel and I asked him is my husband staying here? And they were like yes, And then I got scared and I hung up because that I thought,

maybe that's the kidnapper. But then when I called again, it really did sound like a hotel, and I was like, that's crazy. My husband wouldn't be staying at a hotel. He's been kidnapped, you know what I mean. I didn't think that was anything. Okay, I well, let me let me just stop you there, because it sounds like your husband is at this hotel and not in fact missing as you first told me. Why would my husband be at a hotel without me? Is he taking a vacation

to surprise me? Well, I can't speak to what a person. Why a person goes to a hotel. The motivation is specific to each person. I thought you were a forensic expert and you could tell of a bunch of stuff. So WHI my husband be at a hotel with him? While I look at the clues and I derive conclusions based on the clues, and right now, the conclusion that I'm deriving from this clue, which, to be fair, is the first clue, right, but a pretty strong one. Okay,

I see what you say. It's a first clue. It's leading us in a direction we don't know where we have. We have our B on the Bengo card, we don't have ango yet. Sure, and looking at this first clue as it is, it does seem like your husband is at this hotel and not in fact kidnapped. Okay, well, ms the doctor smarty pants, let me ask you this. Okay. So, for instance, I've been, you know, monitoring our credit cards. Right, so we we each had our own individual credit cards.

But I once I snuck a little glance at his passwords, so I know what it is. It's awesome. So I logged into his credit card and right now, you know, normally, when he's not fucking fighting for his life, his credit card, he only uses it first off, like groceries and electronics and healthcare and you know, random coffee purchases, food desserts, you know, bus fare or whatever uber stuff like that.

That's what we'll use it for. And I'm noticing something crazy, which is that the cards being used on the same exact things groceries, electronics, bus fair stuff on Amazon that my husband uses his credit card for. And he's mimicking all the purchases. He's stealing this freak of stealing his identity. Okay, I just listen. I have a lot of experience dealing with many different kinds of criminals, you know, throughout my storied career, not to mention all of the ones I've

studied in my academic career. And I have to say, having someone's credit card information and the re purchases is huge, a huge clue. But the way you're describing it to me tells me that your husband is living his life separate from you, probably in this hotel by accident because he was taken. Um. I mean, to me as an expert right now, it does seem like perhaps he did this on purpose, only because it is so obvious. And I don't say that to hurt you. I know this

is a very difficult time. Separation can be hugely, hugely chaplenging. Who said the S word? Who said the ask we're here? You said that was word? I didn't say that sword and you know your perhaps your husband feels that just like a i'll separation. I don't know another word for it. I can't think of one at the moment. But perhaps he felt that he needed to be away from you.

I don't I'm not a psychologist. I won't delve into whatever Your interpersonal relationship maybe, but it's a personal relationship is perfect, it's perfect. We communicate like this that you know it's so good. Again, not a psychologist, but I don't know that I've ever heard a person in a healthy relationship describe said relationship as perfect. Okay, this is the first thing you said that makes sense. You see, what we have is unique. You've never seen it before.

So that's why you know that this is some crazy act of God, this is some crime. Right. Well, I'm not saying the same thing, okay, because I feel that we're saying very different things. And I'm saying that I don't think your husband was taken, and I'm trying to say that as lightly as I can while still getting the message across. Okay, there's a reason I don't go to doctors. And this is it. You guys speak in mumbo jumble all the time. Spit it out. What are

you trying to set You're dancing around it. I do feel like I was very clear that your husband was not kidnapped. There is no crime here other than, perhaps you know, a sociological crime that he did not tell you he was leaving. You're saying, my husband got out of our bed, packed his own things in the suitcases that are now gone with the cloads of his that are now gone, and on his own accord, took his car which is now gone, and left somewhere on purpose.

That does same very reasonable to me. But why don't you tell me what you think happened? This is classic doctor stuff, so like I got the big fancy degree. But what do you think is wrong? Let me tell you a dog, Here's what I think is wrong. I think he was fucking kidnapped by somebody who's following his every move, who's ordering the same things he orders from Amazon,

the Sara VSPF fifteen. How could they possibly know? You're You're suggesting implies that my husband and I have an issue that just because we got into some gigantic fight on the night that has happened, that that means he left me. I mean, what are you talking? You sound crazy right now? Doc? Okay, you just pointed out that you had a gigantic fight. This, to me, as a forensic expert, is a very big red flag. Okay, tell

me why why? It provides motivation? And granted I usually delve into the hair follicles, the bone fragments, the blood splattered those are my expertise. But I think this is very textbook your husband left you with the motivation that you guys got into a huge fight prior, and his things are missing. There is no sign of foul play, and he seems to have been confirmed to be at this hotel. So I to me, this is a very cut and dry case, if you could even call it

a case. She didn't even look at the fingerprints in the pen or my teeth marks on it. You didn't even look and your teeth marks on it. I got so nervous because my husband was kidnapped. I was biting the pen. Is that okay? Oh no, you disturbed the evidence. You can't bite on evidence. Well, maybe you guys should all can say that at the store when you buy the pet, you can't bite this. Who could be evidence? You stay at the store. I don't work at the store.

Well maybe you should work at the store because you're not do it no business being a doctor. Okay, just for my peace of mind, I brought a few more items I want you to check out. Is that okay? I at this point I want to see where this goes. Okay, So this this is a an old receipt. This is a receipt piece of paper. Can you find anything on a piece of paper. Yeah, you could find fingerprints, you can find DNA evidence. In some cases. The way that

it's crumpled could be a clue. The length of it, And that's not even getting into what is on the receipt, where the receipt came from, at what time it can place our victims, it can it can really solidify the timeline of our victims and our perpetrators. Okay, um, well, I don't want to eat the evidence or whatever you said, so maybe you want to handle it. I think it was a train ticket or something, a train ticker receipt,

but I don't I don't want to eat the evidence. Yes, I'm seeing this is a train ticket for the night of his disappearance in the evening. So what do we think he is trying to escape and he bought a train ticket? You know, I don't see any evidence here. There's no perforation where a return ticket might be. So it does suggest that your husband, whose name is on this train ticket receipt, went to a place with the intention of staying there for a good deal of time.

Are you saying like a grave, like a kidnapper, bought a one way too? Is this a metaphor like or something. No, I'm being very very sincere in saying that I think your husband used this train ticket to skip town. And actually, if you look very closely, if you see the right hand corner right here where I'm indicating, there seems to be some kind of faint lipstick print, it would be

very strange to kiss a receipt. I don't know that that's what happened, but perhaps you know when someone puts a receipt in their mouth to hold onto it while they check their pockets or something. Oh my god, I see what you're saying. Great, the kidnapper, where's makeup? Oh? Um? Or I mean, yes, a supermodel, a clown, somebody, while the clues point to the receipt being fully intact, again suggesting there was no foul play, again suggest there is

a reason they gave you a doctor certificate. Okay, we're gonna take this to some pros too, because I think this is actually a huge crack in the case. It's like I am a proper. No, no, you're a pro, but you know you've had a couple of fumbles tonight, so I don't know how much I trust you. But I've got a guy who is all over this case too, And I think he's going to really appreciate um us bringing some new evidence because he's been up my fucking ask if I get new evidence, give him a call.

Sometimes he plays a game where he doesn't want to pick off. So this is Mullins, Mullins, Mullins, it's bow Brimley. Don't hang up. If you hang up, I'll die Mullets. Okay, I'm with a doctor. Good because you need help in your brain. No, I don't need help in my brain. If you tell me that one more time, I'll drive myself into the ocean. I am with a doctor right now, and she has a clue to tell you once and for all that my husband was freaking kidnapped. Okay, miss Bremlyn,

you waste so much of my time. I talked to you more than I talked to my son. All right, you waste so much of my time. Okay, you want to talk about an inter personal relationship that needs the hell Well, I have to say this was a misrepresentation of what I was pointing out because what I point out it was not evidence towards the kidnapping. It was evidence towards an affair an affair to remember Cole and

a kidnapping. You see the smart This is more open and shut than a pizza box with an anchovie pizza in it. All right, no one wants it. All right, They look at it, They opened the pizza and they say, no, this is over See. This is why I don't trust the texts. You doctors are talking about lingo bingo, you're talking mumbo jumbo. Detective legally is that I can't freaking understand. What's the brass talk? Huh bears taxes? Your husband left you, all right, he left you for another woman and that's

the end of it. Okay, here's what's crazy. You guys are both saying that he left with a woman, so that a woman is the kidnapper. So you guys both agree with me. The only thing if if there's a kidnapping that's happening, the only thing that was kidnapped was probably your husband's heart or his penis. Dr Newberry m hmm. According to Detective Mullins, this fucking kidnapper might have taken out my husband's heart for his penis. What do you

need to find those? Yeah, I'm not sure that he meant that literally and At this point, I really have to agree with Detective Mullins. It does seem like your husband left on his own volition for a woman or a person who wears lipstick. Thank you, this doctor smart? What the fund do you know about relationships? Mullins? Who's the customer here? Who's the customer? You haven't paid me in months? I I don't. I won't take your money anymore because it's over. Oh I haven't paid you in months,

So you're bringing up the other ship I call you about. Wow, your professional, Mullens, your professional. You see this doctor? You see this? You know now it's thought it's a husband. But I ken't tell you how many times this lady's been trying to hire me to do stuff and find stuff for. Oh, what was you? I'm trying to hire you, my god, and this is to me you should be

so lucky. Just I think this is a case of needing to take accountability for maybe your actions and your actually, Mullins, this doctor said, you need to take accountability for your fucking inaction. Again a misrepresentation of what I was trying to say. I was clearly gesticulating towards you. Bo. I do hope you you yeah, you need to look. We we went through all the clues. We went through everything we could. We detailed it, even though it was so

clear from the beginning that your husband was not kidnapped. Yeah, he bought a train ticket, he went to a hotel with a lady. And now they're off Galliphanton. They're probably in, uh the Bahamas or something. That's where I go, the Bahamas. Oh my god, Mullins, is the first small thing you said in your whole fucking life. My husband loves the Bahamas. I need to check the Bahamas. Yeah, well listen, brim, will you have you book your flight to the Bahamas

and then plush your cellphone in the ocean? Okay, because don't call me anymore. I'm not talking myself phone in the ocean. I'm talking myself in the ocean if I can't find myself the husband. Yeah, I got a question. What is bow? What's that stand for Boa? Did you say your birth name is just bo? Yeah? What? Your parents never got tired right in the rest of your name on the birth certificate. No, they gave me a real long name. What's your name Agamemnon like the King

of the Archives. Yeah, his wife Clytemnestra killed him. I cannot believe you're the only private eye I found in the one page of the Yellow Pages that is still left in my house. Get the Internet. The Yellow Pages are dead. The Yellow Pages are not that are dead, not dead. Don't say that. Listen. If there anything, I have just further proven how little faith I have in the legal system. Okay, so I'm just gonna to continue

the search on my own. No thanks to the likes of you, Detective Agga Popop and freaking Dr Newberry over here. Absolutely useless. Well fucking thanks for nothing. Mullins. Oh, I'm getting your Philly acs and just talking to you. Get the hell off the phone. Stop calling me that you called me. Stop finding me up off a mountain. I will I care find my husband. Doc. I'm sorry you had to see those. It was very aggressive, I have to say on both ends, but mostly yours. Thank you,

Thank you. Us women have to stand up for ourselves. We gotta lean in. No, I don't think that's what that means. Yeah, Lenan, so you can spit len In. Oh um. I think it's more about you know, like salary talks and yeah, the corporate ladder. I thought you said the seller than what Yeah, that would be that's not what I said, but crazy, that would be the whole book. My god, all good thing it's not about that, because that would it would be boring. Yeah, it would

be boring. I'm glad we could agree on something. At least there's that. At loose, there's that. I hate to tell you this, Doc, but I'm going to have to write you a bad review on your website. I don't think you took my case too seriously, and it looks like I'm going to have to venture out on my own to find my husband. There's no one who will take your case more seriously than I just did, and

more compassionately as well. But if you want to waste your time, if you want to waste your energy and money, go for it. You know what. Love is freaking worth it, Doc, And I'm sorry that you don't see that. Is there anyone in your life? Yeah? Yeah, you don't get it. See it's I just said. Yes, I said, it's so obvious you were lying. Is so freaking obvious you were lying? And what's your partners say? You give two seconds? Absolutely fake? That's so fucking fake. What are you talking about you

have no idea. You could look who are on my website to leave a review. You could see there's a picture of Joe on my website. Okay, anybody could photoshop theirselves next to a guy. It's fucking fake. Listen, once you fall in love, freaking call me and tell me if you want to waste your time and energy finding the love of your absolute life when he was taken by a vicious criminal wearing lipstick. Well, thank you, guys

for tuning into another episode of Took. I'm sorry that there's no news to report on my beautiful missing husband Greg. But I'm putting a c T a call to action out there to you, Dr Newberry and to everybody listening to please help me find my husband and help me bring my baby home. It help you help you? At Hey, Doc, you so didn't help me. I'm giving you zero stars. I might even report you somewhere. You can't. I can't report a scientist. You literally cannot report you to a

church or something. I'll get you taken out if you want. I do want until next week. H