Libelous: Confessions of a Fake News Writer Presents: Master Communicator (Episode 1)

all those chords and wires and that stuff? You know what? It's so difficult because I learned it on the job, and then by the time I do the next movie, I've already flown out of mind. I hate that I am not production friendly. And it has to be hard to to ga a story you lived, you lived, you lived that story. Hey, uh, did you ask me to sell my life? Right? No? I guess I'll work on the electricity of the sad. It's so crazy to that

started Jessica. That started Jessica, Well, that's actually the correct pronunciation. Everyone miss pronounces it. But she stopped correcting people. She stopped. It's that thing where she even forgot out of her. Oh so you know the actress whatever, the actress Jessica chess Stain. What else has she been in? Mrs Sloan that it was a big hit, Mrs Sloan, I think she was. Was she in the House of card Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't need to bring you should have.

That was Kevin Kevin what you don't talk about Bruno type situation, We don't talk about him. Kevin is persona on garratta, which in Latin is what means get the hell out of here. Yeah, get the head out of dodge person and on grata is translated to don't don't talk. We don't talk. We don't talk about her, We don't talk about her. Will we have our performance review ready for you? Yeah? Listen, Okay, grab a shuger readable because you're gonna want it. You're gonna want to You're gonna

want to chill out for a second. See, Okay, this is perfect because there's already so much progress being made. He didn't have to like get the can from me. I think he might have been, like he's getting big for his bridge yourself from the mini fridge in the corner of Matt's office. So I think that is a step in the right direction. Matt might think it's step in the wrong direction because you're going into his fridge just saying we're halfway through the series now and it's

been a huge success. So I'm just saying, stay hungry and thirsty as it were. So I took the city bus into work today, Okay, like I always do this guy, eight out of the nine people on the bus recognized you. We get it. I want to get photo with me. Yeah, yeah, okay, and did you how did you treat him? It was great? But the other eight guys, eight out of the nine people brought up clown parade to me. Really yes, in a positive way? Oh I think I mean four out

of the eight positive, super positive. Well, it's saying the other four and then two out of the remaining four, you know, I wouldn't recommend it to a friend, but enjoyed it. Other two no, they didn't like it, did not like it. But you know what, it's good that they have a strong opinion. That makes our C rating high, that makes the Q rating high. But it also you know, the mean average, yes, reception is not going great. Yeah, the media response within a standard deviation of the positive

points of feedback. We'll then integrate into something that could suggest that we're not doing as well as we should and therefore you are not doing as well in your performance review as you should. So what that's I guess why this long walk is to say, our big note for you is great job, stay hungry. We're thirsty as it were, thirsty as it were. Now we're going into our sixth now, sixth person. I think that I think I have I think my performance evaluation will will pick

up slightly. Well, that's not for you to decide, you're right. I'm just I'm hopeful. Okay, Okay. Why is Matt always like he just watched this movie, just watched Tammy faye. I'm on edge, I'm emotion but I know that some people like you want to get yelled at by some people who truly love you. That's what this is. Hey, yeah, I love you now pitch Okay, Okay. So, after much deliberation, scouring for young new talent all over the country in parts of Canada, I've landed on someone that I think

you guys absolutely will flip for. Raphael Ing. Oh my god, we love I'm in a real chest stain place chess sang and what I was alluding to earlier, What is he got for us? Well, he's here's a character, Omari Broadwater, an eccentric billionaire. He believes he's being recorded for a documentary about the success of his fake news empire, but he's in for something way more. The truth libelous confessions of a fake news writer is what we have matched

on the docket. So this is us sort of going intomorrow. Hard news, hard news, heart fake news, Yes, yes, succession, um um succession, Kevin Spacey yes, actually okay, yes, House of Cards Cards Yes. And Raphael I mean he's been writing and performing sketch comedy all over Los Angeles. We we landed another. I had a lozenge and so because you had lost lost these l A theaters, Uh, he's

in all of them. You should be the Second City, the Second City, Hollywood and the pack did joined the cast of College Humor in ten, left, only return in twenty nineteen, only to leave again the back end of to return during Some People Can't Get Enough. Other acting credits include Adam Ruins Everything food fact or fiction. I think foods fake. Yeah, that's actually, that's that's a big topic. But I think this is perfect because Rafael is dealing

with fake news, dealing with fake news with his character Broadwater. Okay, will this might be and so I just put it out there. Well, let's talk about you guys think great. Shall we take a listen. Let's put it out there for the listener. This is libelous confessions of a fake news writer. Fake news doesn't have to be just one thing. I don't have to stick to just one thing. I'm a once in a genner raction, creative genius. Who wrote the headline Joe Biden only eats the great part of

the Sammons? Huh? Who whoo? Who wrote that? Who? I wouldn't know who that was? Me? I'm the one who where I'm Steve Jobs. I'm not Disney, Benjamin Franklin. That motherfucker invented electricity. Before that, nobody had nowhere to plug the ship hit it. I'm all of them. I'm saying, if it wasn't for Benjamin Franklin, we'd all just be walking around with cell phones. You buy them and as soon as the battery dies, you just gotta throw that ship away. You want to live in that kind of

like I'm the person. What are you doing? What are you doing? Are you on your laptop right now? Are you fact checking me? Right now? Are you fact checking? Ain't no fact checking happening, and this motherfucker because this is a fake news motherfucker. No fact checking going on in here. That's the only thing that won't be happening. But we're gonna do a whole lot of ship, Okay, a whole lot of ship because I and the Kanye West of fake news writing. So you can't tell me

to just stick to just one thing. Everybody else does just one thing that is basic. That's basic ship. That ship is for mere motherfucking mortals. But I'm trying to take Yoto to supreme thing. I'm trying to take you higher on the old other motherfucking love. That's just the truth, man, that's just the truth. I'm all about the truth, except when I'm when I'm writing the fake news, which is what I do all the time because I'm the greatest status.

But when I'm not doing that all the time, the other part is, look, man, I don't have to do just one thing. Look at yama alright. Yamaha is a multi hyping it company it's an electronics slash musical instruments slash motor company. Yo man, I like my Yamaha piano. Why the funk would that make them think that you

start building motorcycles cycles accurate as her party? Biden doesn't. White, the Christian psychologist from Maria Cristins claims and reason increase in earthquake is being directly caused by an increase of rock and roll he was at eleven. In a new interview with o'mriac your news, Dr Fauci refuses to take responsibility for nine eleven. He says it's because he had

nothing to do with it. Will let you decide. Uh. Hello, I'm radio journalist Connor Walbatch, and for the past year and a half or so, I've been following the world's first billionaire fake newswriter, Amar Broadwater. I had been trying to get just an interview with a mari for years, but he always turned me down. Then one day, out of the blue, he called me up to do a

full documentary series, and I jumped at the chance. The reason I had pursued him for so long is because, at just thirty six years old, this truly self made billionaire has constructed a multi media empire off the back of headlines like have you lost your remote control? Question mark, Ten ways it could have been stolen by Joe Biden and this all time classic Barack kills Osama bin laden dot dot dot to cover up BFF relationship question mark.

While many would disagree, Omari insists that what he does is art, arguing that fake news is just his form of expression. But when I asked what about the readers who believe his articles, Amari seemed to reject that premise altogether. Why would anyone believe it? I mean, it's fake news. I'd like to note that when Amari refers to his work as fake news, he doesn't mean it as satirical

like the Onion. No, No, it's just fake. But seeing is how there are undeniably people who believe Amari's articles, I had to question whether Amari was in fact an effective communicator, despite connecting with millions of readers on a deep level. What even is an effective communicator? And it's truly accurate communication even possible? How do you know for sure that the words that you're trying to get across

our landing exactly as they should. People have different points of views and different perspectives and can interpret things in different ways. All right here I am. We are in the car now we are driving up two Amari's estate and so be our first time here. I'm just gonna describe. So right now we're on a bumpy, bumpy gravelly road. We are now entering the gates. We're on a of the private property. This is a very a very large

expansive a state. I'd say at least fifty fifty acres that you can see a house, uh, very large mansion in in in the distance we're gaining us. It seems to be the exact replica of the White House. Oh oh wow, oh look at these fountains and we have we have uh we're passing under a two water uh spouting uh statue. Oh my, oh my. They no, they're not statues at all. These are real people spitting out water into the I should note that this, uh well that was well we're passing it now, but the scene

behind me was pretty remarkable. Uh. I should note that this, uh, the working conditions are are different on this estate as uh Omari actually bought uh this p pretty from the government to be its own nation state UH called o Marty. Uh, not to be confused with oh Merita, which I am definitely not saying out loud for the first time. But uh, you know, O Merita, which I'm sure I'm pronouncing correctly, is a mob thing or something, as we all know. But this is a totally different thing. Oh oh, here

we go. Okay, all right, we are at the house and let me just get out here. And oh oh no, oh no, oh these are big dogs. Okay, okay, Oh that's a friendly Oh yeah, well okay, that's okay. You like to nip, you really like the nip. You are too big, too big for that. But that's okay, okay, okay, if someone could just someone's gotta be Fazo Faso. Stop sniffing the reporters. Put hey, quiet, Eln, it's get get over here, Get over here, Elon down down, Ellen, Bazos

back off. H thank you. You're Your dogs names are Bezos and and Elen. Yeah I named him after my heroes. Yeah. Ellen just took a huge ship on the carpet. That must have scared the camera guys away. It's safe to bring him out. Now, come on, camera crew, camera crew, make up, everybody, lights, everybody, come on out, Come on. It's okay, the dogs are fine now now that uh, there's there's actually there's no film. Curl here. This is

a documentary podcast. It's a it's a podcast, but it's a it's a documentary, right, yeah, right, it's a it's a documentary. So just tell the camera people and come on out now. Now I'm I'm a radio reporter, so I don't have a camera. I know you don't have a camera. I'm saying, look, man, whosever job it is to hold the camera, Come on it out. We're ready to shoot. Now, we're ready for you the dog to find you know what. Uh, I'll just shoot it on

my phone. How about that? Okay, all right, it's cheaper. Let's overhead, bigger, private margins. No. I like that. Yeah, I like that a lot. So you're just gonna fire your staff like that, just on the spot like that. God damn, I'm inspired. I'm I'm so I might find somebody today because of you. No, I don't don't do that. Already dialing hey, Cheryl, Yeah you're fired, Yep, pick up

your stuff. I don't care I do. Hey, do what you gotta do, Cheryl, Do what you gotta do, just as long as you're out of the office by the end of the day. How how did that go? Very bad? Very bad. She's gonna sue for wrongful termination and uh yeah, I think she's got a case. All right, let's go bowl. Okay, Well, uh, I guess the first question I have is, I know you don't think anyone believes the headlines you produced, but let's just imagine if someone did. How would you feel

about that? Why would anyone believe it? There's obviously no secondary sources. It's it's it's not an API and Reuters. That's all I read you. Uh, you only get your news from APN writers. Yeah, I'm not a genius. Semi. No, No, you're not. Um. Also, those are interesting. Um. Those aren't bowling balls, are they? Nah? They're in the end of thal skulls. Yeah. The eyes and nose holes are way better fit for my fingers. I think I was like a warrior some ship in another life. What did you

start out wanting to be an international human rights advocate? Yeah? I went to school to study law and how it relates to refugees and asylum seekers. But I had a professor tell me to work on my public speaking, yeah, and that improv class might be helpful with that, which, of course I didn't want to do it first, like I wasn't really into it. But man, when I finally went yo, I loved that ship almost instantly. I fell

in love with that ship. And why was that? Why was it that she felt such a connection you think? Uh so early on? Two words, yes and no matter what I said, my scene partner has gotta believe that ship. Imri Improv class allowed students to record their improv classes. First, we were able to contact one of them, Ari's former classmates for a recording. Can I get two people to start a scene where one of you initiates and the other one yes as the initiation? Thank you? Yeah? Yeah?

Okay you you kid? All right, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do a scene together. Awesome, okay, col you're me alright, alright, okay, okay, okay. So I'm gonna initiate, okay, right, yeah it sounds good, and then I'll receive yeah. Yeah. So so I'll be the one and then you say you say yes day okay, yeah, yeah, totally alright, I can inotiate if you everybody else sit down. Actually, everybody

else sit down, We're gonna do this scene. Okay, all right, okay, So here's me initiating, totally improvised, straight off the dome. Sorry what I was I was gonna say spell you were taking a second. I have an initiation. If you want me to you can go. Sorry. No, okay, I definitely don't want you to go. I'm okay, thank you. Yeah, I am the most brilliant artist of all time. Yes, and that's right. Uh. You are a millionaire yeah, yes, And I turned my millions into billions of dollars. And

I'm also the greatest at basketball. Yes, you're very good at basketball. And I am a baker. Know what. We're sticking with me. Hold on, we're sticking with me. Okay. So you are a baker for me because of how great I am, and you baked for me for free, yes, yes. And and I live in your mansion. That's yes, you live in one of the many rooms in my mansion that has so many rooms where I make love to so many women, and the lovemaking is so great that it makes dolphins cry. Yes, and everyone loves you in

the whole world. Ah man, that was great. That was a very good saing, can I can I ask a question? So? Um, so, when you're doing a scene with someone and they don't kind of give you anything, what are you supposed to do? Um? Yeah, let's talk about kind of two handed, like two way street kind of stuff. A Maori, how does that sound to two way streets? You know, like he yes, ended you,

so why don't you yes? Hand him a little bit? Yeah, what you said, I was initiating and then they yes, And so that's where you know, that's what I'm getting. That's what I'm getting confused here. I mean, Mary is supposed to be initiating. I initiate, then the yes and it comes from the other side. So they say, you know exactly what I say, except more of it. Okay, yeah, well let's let's so let's try that again. And Kevin, if you want to just initiate, you know, support omar

fully um, because it sounded like he that's what he wants. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like you sucked up all right, Well I don't know. Okay, well you get another chance. It was okay, thank you so much. I yes, I am the creator of the whole universe. Yes, And and you gotta go bigger you gotta go bigger with that. I'm trying to get there. Yes, and you created multiple universes. Hey, that's good. That was good heightening. All right, so you're getting better

at it, all right? Thanks? Okay, Yes, I created multiple universes and everything within them, and they all everything that I created loves me and recognizes my greatness. Yes, and you are God. Yeah, I am got Now. That was a twist. I didn't see that coming. I I hadn't even thought of that. That wasn't even something I thought of you. Yeah, I like you. I like you. I think we should I think we should improvide more together. Oh it's a seat over okay, yeah cool, Yeah, I

guess yeah, sure, yeah. I've been trying to get on practice groups, but everybody says that I'm just just yeah, practice, you know, practice makes perfect. I have a practice group that I'm actually running right now over at my my house in Silver Lake. If you want to come by it. We have a really cool coach on Tuesday's at six pm. Oh hell yeah, it's hell motherfucking yeah. Because I know you need me. I know you need amor. I like your confidence. It's fun to be around someone who's confident.

Not a lot of us are confident. So yeah that's me. If I got one thing, it's confident. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah, I mean a state in college after that. But yo, I was pretty much just living in the dorms, you know what I mean, Like I stopped going to classes and it was just basically just pursuing improv full time. They get more of a full perspective on Amari. Uh. We spoke to a mental health expert, Dr Lance kill Bassa for his analysis. Ah, Doctor kill Basa, thank you

so much. First of all for joining us. I know you have a busy schedule and we, uh, we're very grateful to have you here with us. Thank you for having me having to make good time. Um. First, I just want to ask, have you encountered anyone like Omari before in your practice? Well? I have not. Omari is a singular figure in my study, because when I have worked with other people, I've been able to pinpoint their

personality disorders. Every time I tried to figure out what exactly made Omari tick, what it was that caused him to see an altered reality that everybody else, I always found a hiccup. There is no personality disorder. In any cluster of personality disorder groups that fits Omari, he always kind of jumps his way around it. He can't be histrionic because he seems to have empathy. He can't be

anti social because he seems to command a room. Long story short, I don't think there's anything mentally wrong with Omari. I think he's just well, kind of an asshole. And so that's your that's your diagnosis. Yeah, I'm gonna say asshole. Um, he's putting something on. He's choosing to be who he is. And there's no therapy, there's no medicine, there's no treatment I can prescribe to that. He knows what he's doing

is wrong and he likes it interesting. So there's nothing that you could prescribe or there's nothing at all interesting. And I had O Maria one of my retreats in the Sonoran Desert. I take a couple of my patients, some people that I liked to study, some people that i've been working with out for thirty days to work with other people to see if we can make breakthroughs.

By the end of the retreat, Omari had had everyone so scared of what he was going to post about them online that uh, no one spoke to him, but at the end of the retreat everyone still wanted his phone number. People love him, people fear him, people hate him interesting, and people want to be him. It's confounding. And what what about the um So for a different subject, you might call his uh grandiose proclamations, uh delusions of grandeur?

What what exactly when he says things like he's the greatest of all time, that's just him being an asshole. You said it yourself, It's it's deaf. Only is the delusion of grandeur. It definitely is him looking for an alternate reality than what exists. But I can't quite pin down if it isn't a mental fixation, if it is an obsession, if it is any sort of neurological dissonance with what we have in the world, or if he

just kind of wants to go this way. There is a lot of debate in the mental health community upon when you can decide to call someone an asshole. It's a hard place to settle on and I get a lot of flak for it, and I've never called one of my clients an asshole. The thing about it is that he's never been one of my clients. He calls me on the phone. He talks to me for a long time. I say, hey, you want to come, and he says, no, I'm all better. I need to hand

He hangs up. And then I see him quote me as a mental health expert in some sort of article talking about how Miley Cyrus is you know, uh, split personality disorder. You know, I see him quoting me. Yeah, Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are two different people. Uh it is uh, you know, Disney Channel started Hannah Montana to uh to cover up her dissociative identity disorder. That article obviously millions of clicks, and it gets me clients

to this day. What I can say is that I don't want to call Himri an asshole, but calling him any sort of mentally ill is insulting to anyone who is mentally ill. It's not fair to the people who are actually suffering. Okay, it's not right, And there you have it. I also tracked down Kevin Amri saying partner from that earlier recording, Yeah, um, Kevin, hey, can you are you able to first of all, thank you so much for being here with us, of course, happy, happy

to make the time, Yeah, happy to um. Can you kind of describe for us what the what it was like meeting Amri for the first time. From from your perspective, Yeah, I met Omar and inprov one oh one, I was taking it with a bunch of my friends because I, you know, came out to l A wanting to be the next I don't know, Fred Armison or somebody fun like that. And uh, I met Omar and I never

never felt an energy quite like that, you know. I I grew up in a place where, you know, an Irish Catholic family, where I was always told to minimize myself, be smaller. You know, you're you're nothing, You're nothing. You know. I grew up in a very very critical household. So to be around someone who is so so unabashedly aware that they are one of the greatest people in the world, it was intoxicating. It was nice to be around that.

It was it was It was fun for me because I was like, wow, you know, if if he's giving me attention, that makes me feel like I might not be some worthless sack of potato ship, you know what I mean, Like it makes me feel like I could be something else. So it was really fun to be his friend and to have him around because when we would go to restaurants, he would only order the nicest things.

He's that for I. He's being with them. Mari was the first time I ever had verve click, a really nice champagn I'd only had Brute before that, you know, I'd only had Andre. He lived nice, he lived good, he lived fun um, and then then I started feeling invisible. That's kind of slowly when I started realizing like, oh,

I could be anyone. You know, it was a copy paste because I started seeing him talk to other people and then they'd be excited, and then he started slowly forgetting my name, and that kind of made me feel bad. That was the other side where I was like, oh, I was just kind of a dumping ground for his

ego for a little bit. If And that's the stuff I've been kind of dealing with for the past five ten years in therapy and just being like what happened, you know, like I felt like I got thrown into an office chair and spun around fifty times and then pushed out. It's really kind of what I'm dealing with for myself. What happened? What was what was that? Right? Yeah? But he's fun? Man? Is he listening to this? He's not gonna listen. Is he involved? He's I'm trying to

give him. I love him, but he not listening right now. And if he were to come around, I would be so happy to see him. And but sure, it's just hard. It's just I see his stuff. I see his stuff. Um, I don't I don't love it. I'm scared of him. It's taken a long time for me to say that, but I'm sure I'm scared of what he'll do to me if he gets close to me again. And how how so do you mean physically or just through his power? He has a way of making you forget everything you

know is right. He has a way of making you realize the way you've been thinking is wrong, and the way he sees something is true even if the facts aren't there. He Um, he's a bit of a magician and he's a bit of a world shower. He opens the curtain to what something could be. And that's intoxicating, that's exciting, but it's also wrong. I would go home to Thanksgiving dinners and I would say some of this stuff that he said to me, and I would get

laughed off the table. You know. He would say, did you hear that New Gingridge owns a firm in New Hampshire where he makes human fall grot, where he forces people to eat things and make fatty livers and then he serves human human livered people, And um, my family wouldn't like that, you know. And it wasn't a conservative liberal thing. It was a this is just the kind of thing that doesn't make sense and it's upsetting you

believed it. And I think he kind of used me as a kind of training ground to figure out the lies that people would be susceptible to. Yeah, and I feel used. Yeah, exactly interesting. Yeah, it's okay, Well, I'm very sorry. It's okay, I'm very sorry. It's okay. I'm I'm I'm good. Now. If he asks, I'm good, I'm really good. Okay, I did ask. He did ask. That's awesome. And he said Kevin, he said my name. He did not remember your name, but but he he remembered the guy that he had to lift up in uh in

improv scenes, lift up metaphorically. Yeah, because yeah, that's yeah, because he didn't physically lift me up. We had this thing where I would always try to do kind of physical scene work and he'd stopped this. He need to do not touch me. So when you said lift up, I was like, that doesn't sound like Omari. But yes, yeah, he he did always kind of actively tell me I was the dead weight. And that took a lot to unpack too. That took a lot for me to deal

with as well. Yes, I'm good now though, I'm I'm I'm a business owner, so I'm good. That's wonderful. What and what what business is this that you're running. I run a natty shop where I write office quotes on old pieces of driftwood from the ocean. So if you you can go to uh, Kevin's Chili Pot. It's a little office on because my name is Kevin and there's

a chili pot in an episode of the Office. You go there and there's all sorts of you know, just really nice quotes from all your favorite seasons on Jeff Wood. Because I live in a I live in a beautiful, beautiful ocean home in ox Nerd, California. So okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we call it ox Nerd. We call it oxrd locals do locals call it ox nerd um and you can tell Omari that if you want but beautiful than beautiful, we will we will do, we will do just there. Awesome. Thanks,

thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Now, no, thank you. Honestly, if you use I'll go to go to my anti shop. You can get ten percent off if you if you use the code um Angela, just a character from the office. We will absolutely let the

listeners know. Thanks. We learned that um am I eventually got himself kicked out of his improv group for steam rolling scenes um, which maybe no surprise to anyone who's been listening this long, but uh, we also have audio from one of their shows that the team was allowed to record for a small fate. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Omari players. And uh, I know that wasn't on the flyers, but I improvised that the name up right now, that team name. Uh, that's how good

I am an improv. Anyway, We're just gonna need one word suggestion from anybody in the audience, just one word. Shout it out, carrot. No, can I get a funny suggestion? Uh, something that's funny so that we could do some comedy here. Okay, one word but what what was it? What? But? But? But? But very funny word? All right, Now we're gonna improvise off of the word but. Hey, Kevin, get out here.

We're gonna improvise right now. No, everybody else get back, No, no, get back, Stacy get back on the alright, this is gonna be arsting. We're gonna do the first scene, then Stacy does the second scene. Then ron h you could do the fourth scene with you know whoever you want. But okay, all right, I got the nicest butt in the world. Yes, you do have the nicest butt in the world, thank you. And your but won't quit. Yeah, my but won't quit. But but won't quit. And it's

it's hardest, the hardest working but in show business. Way better than your butt. Yes, your butt is way much better than my butt. And we're we're at the pants store. Way better. We're at to wear Yeah, way better. Well, we're at the shoe store now because yeah, we're at the shoe store because the pants store we couldn't find

no pants that was good enough in my butt. So now we're making Now we're going to the shoe store because you know, sometimes they got shoes where the way that it makes your foot and an angle, it will make your butt look bigger because it like exercises the muscles in the butt. So that's what we're gonna do now, because I also have the prettiest feet in the world. Okay, yeah, you have the prettiest feet in the world. And your feet are amazing. Yeah, well I wouldn't say amazing. I

would say that they're like glorious. Okay again then, uh well you have your feet are glorious, yeah my feet? Yeah, all right, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah glorious. Whoa are those feet made of gold? No? They actually made Wow, those feet are made of rubies. And there's someone here to try to steal your feet still, uh no, this guy is actually here. That's actually that's not a man. That's my mother. So sorry that you called, so you should apologize for calling them a man. And they're not

stealing my feet. They're actually coming in to clean my feet. They're cleming in to clean my feet up. Okay, And I'm gonna leave, but you can stay here. Yeah, yeah, you get out. I'm gonna stay. Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, looking back on it, I can get why they didn't want to play with me, but at the time getting kicked off the team wasn't something I was

willing to accept. Yeah, man, I mean my girlfriend at the time was was writing for the school paper and let me publish a story about how the group was actually a sex goal. So that was your first fake news story? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wrote. I wrote that, you know, the improv group was actually a sex call. This kind of like blackmail, Like, you know, if you let me back on the team, I'll tell everybody this

was a lie. But that didn't work because they didn't want anything to do with me, you know what I mean, and uh neither did any other team. But uh, you know what the article, The article did mad numbers. I mean, people loved it. They ate it up. They knew it was a lie. That's why the blackmail part didn't work, but they ate it up. So I said, Yo, I'm sticking at this ship man. That article reached a way bigger audience than any improv show, So that was it.

I was hooked. I figured if I could get this much attention for something I wrote about this little improv indie group, and I could get way more attention for writing bigger stories with wider interests about different ships. So I started writing up fake ship about the president, and then you know fucking Will and Grace and and it

really roused people up. I'm talking about like i'd even write I didn't even write fake news stories about celebrities, then tweeted at them and you know, tweeted at them from different accounts. So so I'd be like, hey, I saw this thing, Uh, it's true, And I tweeted as so many celebrities and politicians that they started responding to it, like going out in public and denying the ship. So then that brought more eyeballs to it, made that ship go viral, That brought more people to the site. Now

you've got cable news picking it up. I mean we was everywhere. We were everywhere off of that ship, Russia, Turkey, Nigeria, We're all over the place. I mean, it was huge. It was fucking huge, you understand me. It was like it was the wait, why are you opening up about your story now? Because I'm gonna us as documentary helped me win a Peabody, and here's some luck at what happens next time? What the fuck yo. The onion just want to be body. The onion just want to be

body cool on man. I sat down with Amari News Corpse lawyer to begin with, how did you get here? Do you know what student loans are? Student loans they charge you for going to school, lots of money that you can't pay. You pay them back late. What is your relationship exactly to Mr broad Water? Uh? Yeah, well, uh I'm his right hand man kind of like brutus man. They can't they can't do this to us man,