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Cloud Unplugged

Jon Shanks, Lewis Marshall
Each week, Jon Shanks, CEO of cloud-native consultancy and product business Appvia, and tech evangelist Lewis Marshall, senior developer and AI enthusiast, analyse the biggest news stories that week, that are shaping Cloud, Data and AI. Alongside their insight, they invite frontline leaders, Chief Technology Officers and engineering heads from established, cloud-powered organisations to share candid lessons from running real-world workloads at scale. Together, they take the headlines and get to the facts, helping you keep track of the fast-paced Cloud market. Expect straight-talking conversation, sharp analysis as they explore how emerging technology reshapes business and society. Tune in each week to stay a step ahead of the future of tech.
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Episodes

AI Moves Off the Cloud, Google Breaks the Internet, Google-Wiz Deal Under Fire

This week on Cloud Unplugged: AI goes local, Google Cloud breaks the internet, and the DOJ turns up the heat on Google’s $32B Wiz acquisition. We’re breaking down the biggest stories in cloud and AI: Context & Qualcomm are teaming up to move AI agents off the cloud and onto your device. What does this mean for the future of local-first AI? A major Google Cloud outage caused chaos across Cloudflare, Shopify, and Discord. We explain what went wrong and what it tells us about the risks of centr...

Jun 27, 202539 minEp. 49

UK’s £1B AI Push, China’s 631GB Data Leak, and Robotic Exoskeletons

This week, we delve into the UK government’s substantial investment in AI infrastructure and its implications for cloud sovereignty; Is it related to the trump administration, the economy or the AI arms race? We discuss China’s unprecedented 631 GB personal data leak and whether it is a honeytrap or negligence. Plus, Wandercraft’s latest advancements in robotic exoskeletons and how technology is transforming mobility and rehabilitation. Whether you're deep in tech, cloud services, AI innovation,...

Jun 15, 202535 minEp. 48

From AI Labs to Warzones: Proteins, Drones & Dog Tech

In this episode, Jon and Lewis cover four wildly different stories, from Warfare to the impact of Trump conspiracies on Datacentres. First up, Microsoft is investing $400 million to turn Switzerland into the next cloud capital. Is it for neutrality, Trump instability syndrome or just demand? Then, we meet a glow-in-the-dark protein made by an AI called ESM3, because why not let machines start designing life? Next, we detour into wartime sci-fi: Ukraine’s drone swarm attack: trucks, remote lids, ...

Jun 05, 202542 minEp. 47

Design Meets AI: OpenAI and Jony Ives, VEO AI film creation, and how to predict the weather with M.S

This week, we dive into OpenAI’s $6.5B acquisition of Jony Ive’s ‘io’ and what it means for the future of AI-native devices. We explore Google’s VEO 3 and the deepfake dilemmas it raises, along with Microsoft’s Aurora AI and its ability to predict the weather. Plus, Google’s new try-on AI lets you see how clothes fit without leaving your house, and in a more random story, it turns out some plants can hear bees to protect their nectar. Whether you're deep in tech, cloud services, AI innovation, o...

May 28, 202540 minEp. 46

AI Infrastructure Boom: CoreWeave's IPO, AWS Transform, and Quantum Computings Next Leap

In this episode, we dissect industry-shaping stories, debating CoreWeave's $35 billion IPO, AWS Transform: AI for legacy app modernisation, and the exciting intersection of quantum computing and AI and how much Nvidia is investing in the Market - are they becoming the new Microsoft, Apple or Google? Whether you're deep in tech, cloud services, AI innovation, or market dynamics, this episode delivers sharp analysis, insightful predictions, and essential context to stay ahead in a rapidly evolving...

May 22, 202544 minEp. 45

Saudi’s AI Empire, Nvidia’s Robot Plans, and talking Dolphins

In this, almost, but never quite, 30-minute episode, we investigate how Saudi Arabia is set to become the world’s next AI hub. Unravelling the state-backed initiative, HUMAIN, and the billions being channelled into local data-centre capacity with Nvidia and AWS. We also uncover Nvidia’s newly open-sourced Isaac GR00T N1 foundation model, trained on vast libraries of human motion-capture, and the impact that is going to have on the robotics industry. When will they be coming for our jobs? Finally...

May 15, 202544 minEp. 44

Big Retail Cyber Attack: Amazon’s AI Offensive & the Google AI Opt‑Out Illusion

In this 30‑minute episode, Jon and Lewis unpick the coordinated ransomware wave that struck Britain’s high‑street giants. They trace the attack chain that emptied Co‑op shelves, froze M&S online orders and attempted, but failed, to extort Harrods. Lewis takes a look at Amazon’s latest generative‑AI arsenal: Amazon Q’s new developer‑first agents, the multimodal Nova Premier family running on Bedrock, and AWS’s landmark decision to let any SaaS vendor list in Marketplace regardless of where th...

May 07, 202533 minEp. 43

Europe in the Dark: Cyber-attack Suspicions, Meta’s New AI, Qwen 3 & Earths rotation changes

In this 30-minute episode, Jon and Lewis delve into the root causes of Europe’s recent Spain, France and Portugal blackouts, scrutinising grid-failure reports and probing whether a sophisticated cyber-attack might have been to blame. They then analyse Meta’s newly unveiled AI alongside the arrival of Qwen 3 and Google's AgentSpace update, and how Jon progressed with integrating it into Google Drive to streamline internal teams. Next, they unpack NASA’s groundbreaking study showing how three mass...

May 01, 202538 minEp. 42

Google AI Agentspace Workflows, Oracle Cloud Breach and OpenAI’s New Features

In this fact-busting 30-minute episode, Jon and Lewis explore Google’s AI AgentSpace technology and how it could let business teams run complete workflows without ever leaving the agent environment. They then test the marketing claims behind Openai’s latest model features, before dissecting Oracle’s cloud data breach. Finally, they map out the potential impact of the proposed Clean Cloud Act on the energy footprint. Hosts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/l...

Apr 27, 202536 minEp. 41

CTO/Co-founder Thomas Boltze: Why Your Engineering Team is Slow - and How to Fix It | Episode 40

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Jon talks with Thomas Boltze—CTO at Santander’s PagoNxt, former CTO of Funding Circle, Agile Coach, and cloud/fintech leader with 15+ years experience—about fixing broken tech teams. They cover rebuilding systems from scratch, cutting through technical debt, and why culture trumps code every time. Lessons from fintech, startups and hard-won engineering battles. Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasboltze/ Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged ...

Apr 16, 20251 hr 10 minEp. 40

AI Monopoly Madness: Microsoft’s Moves and the Future of ChatGPT! | Episode 39

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Lewis and Jon explore the latest in AI and cloud computing, discussing Microsoft's board changes and the evolving AI landscape. They also examine the practical applications of ChatGPT and its impact. Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.i...

Aug 07, 202458 minEp. 39

CIO of Sportradar, Ian Poland: How to manage your cloud spend well, career journey to CIO | Episode 38

Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io Welcome to The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, hosted by Jon Shanks (CEO) and Jay Keshur (C...

Jun 26, 20241 hr 10 minEp. 38

GitOps: The gaps it has and what can be done about it! | Episode 37

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon to discuss the challenges of the Gitops model, what's good about it and where it is lacking! Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's start-up: https://www.appvia.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshu...

Jun 12, 202444 minEp. 37

Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines with Lewis Marshall and Mark Hughes Open Source: Tesla car takeovers and rogue washing machines | Episode 36

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Mark and Lewis join Jon in the unknown of Open Source, Cyber Security and the takeover of cars and rogue washing machines! Is Open source a risk for companies to adopt? What assurances are there around it? And What are we doing collectively to help support the maintenance of open-source projects that don't have enough maintainers? Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged List...

May 30, 202440 minEp. 36

Head of Engineering of Moonpig, Richard Pearson: Career Progression, Leadership and Enablement teams | Episode 35

Richard Pearson joins The Cloud Unplugged podcast to talk discuss his career journey to become Head of Engineering at Moonpig. We take a look at how he began his career, from studying AI to working for an ISP and now heading up Engineering at Moonpig. We also discuss what the engineering function at Moonpig looks like, how the teams are structured and what technologies are being adopted in AWS. Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged https://www.tiktok.com/@UCkCxcw9tJHd_sPtDveunGsQ https://twi...

May 15, 202458 minEp. 35

Product vs. Program, what's the difference and do you really need them? | Episode 34

Jon and Jay sit down to discuss what a program is, what a product is and what the difference between the two is. Are they company-specific and completely unrelated, or, are they reliant on each other? This light-hearted episode covers the ins and outs of products and programs. Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djX...

Dec 13, 202334 minEp. 34

The importance of consistency in cloud infrastructure: Cloud Landing Zones | Episode 33

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Nov 29, 202327 minEp. 33

Rafe Colburn, Depop (owned by Etsy). Pitfalls of measuring engineering productivity | Episode 32

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Nov 15, 202352 minEp. 32

Dean Bryen, CTO of Cloud UBS maintaining innovation with new technologies | Episode 31

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Nov 01, 202359 minEp. 31

Idriss Selhoum, Marks & Spencer's cloud adoption journey | Episode 30

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Oct 18, 202342 minEp. 30

David Heinemeier Hansson, 37 Signals & Ruby on Rails. Rent vs buy: do cloud providers really save companies money? | Episode 29

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Oct 04, 202340 minEp. 29

Matthew Skelton, Team Topologies, the complexities of managing team in the modern workplace | Episode 28

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Sep 20, 202352 minEp. 28

What is Culture in the Modern Workplace? | Episode 27

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Sep 06, 202331 minEp. 27

Viktor Farcic, Upbound. Platform Engineering, Role Evolution and Optimisation | Episode 26

CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged Twitter: https://twitter.com/cloud_unplugged Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cloudunplugged Listen on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3y2djXa Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3mosSFT Jon & Jay's company: https://www.appvia.io/ Jon Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanshanks/ Jay Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaykeshur/ Podcast sponsor inquires, topic requests: Hello@cloudunplugged.io...

Aug 23, 202344 minEp. 26

Product Manager vs. Product Owner, is there a difference and do you need one? | Episode 25

Product management versus delivery management... two distinct but complementary roles within a company, each serving essential purposes. Understanding their significance can shed light on their importance to an organisation. Some may argue that both are essential, while others might contend that product management alone is enough. Let's explore and determine their significance. In this episode of the Cloud Unplugged podcast, Jon Shanks and Jay Keshur share their thoughts on product management an...

Aug 09, 202333 minEp. 25

Nicholas Chang & Steve Nicholl, Kainos. Navigating Cloud Adoption | Episode 24

In this episode of The Cloud Unplugged Podcast, Nicholas Chang, and Steve Nicholl, from Kainos, join Jon to share insights on the challenges of navigating cloud adoption framework, platform engineering, and the significance of collaboration in the industry. They cover keeping up with the rapidly evolving cloud technologies through social networking, choosing the right platform and service for creating applications, and giving autonomy to developers while implementing the necessary guardrails to ...

Jul 27, 202333 minEp. 24

Chris Stura, PwC UK. Platform Engineering & Business Success | Episode 23

Jon sits down with Chris Stura, Director of Financial Services at PwC. Together, Jon and Chris delve into the realm of cloud computing and software development, highlighting the challenges that businesses in the technology sector face. Gain valuable insights on leveraging technology for business success and the crucial role of integrating technology into effective business strategies. Chris Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-humphreys-80691322/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudu...

Jul 12, 202347 minEp. 23

Colin Humphreys, Syntasso. Anti-Patterns Exposed: Building Platforms the Right Way | Episode 22

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, Jon sits down with Colin Humphreys, CEO & Co-Founder of Syntasso. The two tackle the confusing jargon prevalent in the cloud industry and its impact on effective communication, they delve into the significance of product management and design as crucial elements of platform engineering, and they relive the challenging times when Dev and Ops used to be separate entities. Haseeb Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/budhani/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.co...

Jun 28, 202351 minEp. 22

Haseeb Budhani, Rafay Systems. Bridging the Gap: Development and Developer Experience | Episode 21

In this episode of Cloud Unplugged, host Jon is joined by Haseeb Budhani, the Co-founder and CEO of Rafay Systems. Rafay Systems is at the forefront of delivering cloud-native Kubernetes management and operation solutions to corporations and managed services. Jon and Haseeb explore the thought-provoking topic of build vs. buy in the platform engineering world, shedding light on the advantages and challenges associated with this approach. CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow ...

Jun 14, 202334 minEp. 21

Richard Simon, T-Systems. Every Cloud Migration Has a Silver Lining | Episode 20

Jay is joined by Richard Simon, CTO at T-Systems, a business that drives digital transformation for companies by offering integrated end-to-end IT solutions. Jay and Richard discuss the four stages of cloud migration, how to establish a Cloud Centre of Excellence, what polycloud is, and why you need more than a hammer to build a house. Richard Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-simon-0272768a/ CU Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@cloudunplugged Follow us on social media @cloudunplugged...

May 31, 202334 minEp. 20
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