Kawhi Out Indefinitely

And it's this sham Sharania now of ESPN, O my young Masuk of ESPN, who's been on the show here on Clippers Talk our reporting that star Kawhi Leonard is expected to miss indefinite time to start the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA season as he and the team rehab his right knee for sustainability on the court. Anything shocking about this? Did you guys think you was playing next Wednesday? Did you think he was playing the first couple of weeks. I don't know how I could

have prepared you any better for this. I just did a deep dive on Kawhi, like I don't know, probably less than a week ago, talking about everything. We've heard, all the quotes we had from March thirty first on throughout this right knee swelling going on. I don't know how I could have prepared you more for this. Alex Webbin said, not sure this is breaking news. We've known this for the most part, I understand this sentiment. Old

man Yen says, not surprised, but still bumped. Now that it's more official, I understand that completely him as he said, why are people surprised he didn't do any basketball contact? He hadn't been practicing with the team. I have been telling you that in order to get back out on the court. It would have been big if you could have played in a preseason game, because that means he would have already practiced and done some contact drills, the

proper ramp up and build up to playing. I had played you audio from Kawhi talking about that very thing in Honolulu. I just did a show on this check the live section. I just did it, like I don't know how many shows. It wasn't go now because I'm doing so many, but I tried. I did my best to prepare you. I don't know what else I could have done. Deca Fantastic said, what I love is Clipper's talk is becoming something I can always depend on when

something happens. Adam is always ready. That was the goal. That was my aim here. I appreciate you, Ha, Deca Fantastic. Jordan said, this was pretty known. Even Tyleru went out with the starting lineup not too long ago. I mean Brad Turner just asked him Monday night after the game, do you have a starting lineup without Kawhi Leonard said, yeah, the one I went with tonight. We've known. Hanta Hans said,

Kawhi Leonard always doing this after getting the bag. I hope he gets well, plays well, and then we trade and gets assets back. Yeah. This is totally intentional on his part. He's not a Hall of Fame player. He doesn't love basketball. He doesn't have a passion for the game. He didn't try to play on one leg in Game three last season against the Dallas Mavericks and hang on the rim because he was scared to fall to the floor after an Alu dunk. Shut up man Deca Fantastic said.

Week to week is indefinitely no setbacks. Is the key fact. I'll read you more from the article, which really makes this seem like non news. It starts like this. LA Clippers star Kawhi Leonard will be sidelined indefinitely to begin the NBA season as he really rehabilitates from inflammation in

his right knee, sources told ESPN on Thursday. The Clippers in Kawhi are in the midst of a rehab process for the two time NBA Finals MVP that is aimed to bring sustainability for him on the court through the season, and the franchise will be diligent and cautious to ensure

his fitness long term. I'll read that again. The Clippers and Kawhi Leonard are in the midst of a rehab process for the two time NBA Finals MVP that is aimed to bring sustainability for him on the court through the season, and the franchise will be diligent and cautious to ensure his fitness long term. I have been telling you for some time now that I believe they're being overly cautious. Rightfully, so, considering everything that has happened, it

is the correct move. They don't want to set back like they had in twenty twenty two when he first came back from the ACL where he played a couple of games coming off the bench, and then there was stiffness in the knee in a game in Okac and then we didn't see him for about three weeks or a month. Don't want that, am I thirteen twenty four said, indefinite can mean a lot of things, which is the sad part. It could because why because of what I've been telling you, no one knows how his knee is

going to respond. He has to go through the rehabilitation process, strengthen the knee. Then see, Okay, as I'm doing these exercises, is it being inflamed? Is it swelling back up? No? Check mark, Move on to the next thing. Then eventually get to the point where he can get back onto the court, but that still includes practicing five on five and then see how he responds with his need the next day after that. I told you back in the playoff series, Yeah, I expect him to try to play

on it. It's how he responds to that. And he didn't respond well after Game two. He looked much better in Game two that he did Game three. The Nie well back up. I have told you my concern all along is that the only reason the swelling has gone down is because he hasn't played high level basketball. What happens when he gets back to playing five on five NBA level basketball. Does the swelling go back up? We

don't know. I don't know how I could have laid this out any more cleanly for you guys to understand, Alex Webb said. Sham said, they have a handle on it and have a better sense of how to manage the swelling. Hopefully it works out for Kawhi this time around. He's quoting stuff for media Day. That part of it that's not new information, like most of this article, and it's pretty damn short, is pulling stuff from what Lawrence

Frank has said already. Leonard and the Clippers have gone through a variety of medical treatments to control the inflammation since the end of last season. We know Lawrence Frank, president of Basketball Operation, is said at the start of t in camp that the inflammation had gone down significantly since last postseason. Yes, but that the team wanted to get the franchise's start need to one hundred percent and

would take every precaution. This is not new information. When asked if he could have to deal with information coming up for the rest of his career, that was asked at media Day by om Yam Maasouf to Kawhi Leonard, Leonard said that it is a possibility, but that the medical staff has got a better handle on it and is trying to ensure that isn't the case, So Alex Web that was for media day. That's nothing new. We already knew that. Tim Ay said, not shocked at all.

This has to be part of the load management strategy. No back to backs and cut at least the first month of the season to save his legs conjecture. Mo Hassen said. Any true Clippers fans have been aware of this for at least a month. This press release was for the rest of the NBA and casual fans. You're probably right about that, the guy who I almost put in time out earlier, HANSA. Hans said, just an emotional

sad fan here. History repeating itself helpe the rest of the squad kept us afloat, or can keep us afloat while we wait for Kawhi to be back. That's fine, I understand, it's frustrating. I get it. I just I don't know if you have been listening to me since the end of March when this first went down. I told everybody then, guys, this swelling him missing that game against Denver, which have playoff consequences. At the time, it was a real injury. Everybody kept telling me, no, they're

just saving him for the postseason. They wouldn't give him a break right before a long postseason. It's not serious. He's playing Game one. All that stuff was misinformation. I tried to alert you about this. Deuce Time said, I'm not surprised. James Hardens, Zoo, Norm and Sky Jones gonna do it. Grant Mona in here said, I don't think any of this is new or new news to me and Adam. Everyone around the team kind of knew this. I'm reading stuff from the article that we already do.

None of this is new. This is just I don't know. ESPN wants to take credit for obvious information here. I get it. I guess it's a little bit more official now, but I don't think anyone thought he was playing next week. Jordan said, I think as Clippers fans should be happy we are not throwing him out there in Game one of eighty two. We need him later in the year. Hope we get to see him in about fifty to fifty five games this year. The West is tough. I'd sign up for that right now. I would sign up

for fifty games with Kawhi. That's where I'm at with it. Fifty games of high level play from Kawhi Leonard, I would love that, but again, you have to put yourself in a position to actually be able to make the playoffs. Try to stay out of the play in and if you don't have him enough, you could be flirting with being on the outside of the plan. We'll see a lot of unknowns AFG prints eight one to eight said, hate to say it, but a degenerative knee will not

get better, It will only gradually get worse. Thanks for the definition of what the generative means. I think the tenure is done. Heartbreak xs xx Sick Angel says, what's the odds he doesn't play this year? No idea, guys, Kowhi can't know how his knee response to the treatments yet, so how can any of us know? How can the team know? Nobody knows it's how his knee responds. Frank Jay said, why was he even in the Olympic initial roster? That's fair. Did he not know his knee as inflammation

or did Olympics practice just make it worse? We don't know that. At media day, it sounded like he was doing his usual workload build up off season workout stuff before and out after the Olympics, but he said just two weeks before reporting to the training camp in Vegas. I think it was for Tmusa. He initially said that he had had a turnaround just two weeks before. Then we find out after that Lawrence Frank press conference about a week before Media Day that he had a procedure

in May. So I'm guessing he felt good after the procedure, whatever it was clean up. People say want to sound smart. Nobody can actually tell me what that means. But I guess he felt like he was healthy enough and it was a bucket list thing for him. And then he said the knee was in a neutral state while he

was practicing and doing some five on five. But when Lawrence Frank said, and I pointed this out a million times here, that the swelling is almost gone, and that was in early October, late September he said that, and May is five months before that when he had the procedure. Apparently, I said, oh, that's a little bit concerning commits me ow, I'll just say it meew. Mio said, should kawaj just sit the whole season? This is a wash season anyways. Let him sit for an entire year and do whatever

he needs to do. I think you're missing something very key here, very key that surprised me. O. The Clippers need to stay in front of the Houston Rockets so that they don't have their pick taken away again by Okasee. They have a pick swap with either the Clippers or the Houston Rockets. They are going to take the better positioned pick the team with the worst record. The Clippers have zero incentive to just give in and get a better pick this season when Okac is gonna take it.

Whatever the best pick between them and the Houston Rockets is, they're getting, So that makes zero since so maybe a mute come in or maybe a timeout. Deuce Time says, our defense is going to surprise people. Optimism finally got some. Grant Mona says, see you tonight, Adam much to discuss. Have a great show, thanks Grant. I think he's coming on the pregame show with me Clipper's countdown starting at six thirty. Deca fantastic says until I hear the word setback,

it's same old, same old. We haven't heard that yet. Alex Webb saying, Harden got us. We are good for the first half of the season, We'll see my guy. The West is dark and full of terror. Jesse Beer said. Adam Law has been hinting at this. It isn't new news. Law keeps saying first week in November. First week in November might be aspirational. My friend, he's out indefinitely. Nobody knows. Law also thought he was coming back in Game one

and then changed his opinion on that. Nobody knows it's Kawhi. I'd been telling people that what the situation is if he plays high level basketball? Uh? Is this swelling just gonna go back up? I told you guys this back in April. I don't know. I feel like I've been kind of on top of this. One. Deuce Time said James Harden has approven one v one player in the late game, especially in the regular season. Facts he's also thirty five. A lot is going to be demanded of him.

Asian Domination fifteen said, do you think Kawhi cries at night? This is a timeout? I think Kawhi is frustrated. Uh, Deuce Time says one hundred to Alex Webb, Holo Dolo says Hardens Zoo and the boys, it's all up to you now. It truly sucks that our opening schedule is so tough. It's a good point. The schedule is very difficult early on on Phoenix coming up less than a week from today at Into It Dome JJJ Triple J Jared Jackson Junior is who when you respond to comments?

Is it you from YouTube or a different live stream? It's me Adam A Jay says minus two Jays. He will get fine for load management, but technically can't get fined if he's not playing because he's hurt. But we are really saving him for the middle of the season towards the playoffs. Watch. This level of delusion is problematic. This whole Oh Clippers are playing the long game and this is a tactic so they don't get fined for load management. Guys, the NBA doctors can clear someone for

load management. That's what we saw in the nineteen twenty season, and the Clippers did not get in trouble. Then. I know the player participation player pernticipation policy has changed a little bit, but I think it's the same thing. I think everyone knows nobody's faking anything. Kawhi's injury prone the right knee. Unfortunately, last three seasons same type of issues flaring up, popping up. Rene Ze said, our defense is going to keep us afloat hope. So Louis Lemmis says,

Rockets look solid. Whit More a huper a hooper. I thanks, yeah, I didn't need to hear that name. Can whit Moore. Uh Louis Lemmis, if you know, you know, give Kawhi more money. Uh Mio said the pick is gone. We lost the trade. The pick is not gone. You're casual, you're out time out, time out. I tried to explain it to you. You didn't want to listen. That's a clear cut time out. The pick is not gone this season yet. If they stay ahead of the Houston Rockets, okay,

C will pick swap with them. That's very important. So your little oh, what does it matter give up on this season? No, it matters. You can keep your first round pick him with you said it is four to eight weeks. Who's saying is four to eight weeks. That's not what indefinite means. That means there's no timeline. Clipsher Die says, I'm just excited for Clippers basketball. Thank you. I'm gonna be into it. On the twenty third let's go, and honestly had no expectations for Kawhi playing when I

got the tickets. This is the way. This is gonna be a fun team to watch. I like it. I like it. Jam I thirteen twenty four said, wtf type of question is that? Does a girln man cry at night? Think before you type. You're right, he's still in timeout. C has said, and definitely for the start of the season, we knew this, Yeah we did. Uh triple J. No.

My comment was if you respond to comments from YouTube or a different live stream, but you answered my question, big fan, I appreciate you, triple J. I hope I answered it. Uh double X. Sick Angel said, I think we just got to have fun with this team for the next three years. Last year was our last year for competing for a championship until our next era of Clippers basketball. I'm calling it right now the into a domera. I don't know if this is post two, one three,

the James Harden era, the James Kawhi era. Until Kawhi plays, that's hard to say into a domera. Tim Ay said, I'm glad we have hardened over PG since he's more able to carry a team. If it were the opposite, I think I feel more down. Okay, I see the logic there. He's the engine to the offense. Duce Time said they bringing back hand checking and defense will be of value in the NBA. No more carries and traveling buckets will be tough this year. Not sure what you

read with the rules committee, but none of that is true. Yes, they are letting them play more physical. Hand checking is a judgment call. It's like holding from an offensive line in the NFL, it's how much do you let someone get away with? It still happens all the time. It is the most overused terminology by old heads that say

no hand checking. It would be totally different now. It's like, actually, hand checking has been illegal since like the late seventies, but it's just how much you let them get away with. And you can go back and watch games where Jordan was getting all kinds of hand checking calls on the opposition. They were calling tiki tak stuff back then too. Hello,

Dello says, in all honesty, this is nothing new. We all knew this was the route, the routes they were going with with this report, now everyone can stop asking the same damn questions about Kauai every time. I think that's part of the reason they're getting this out now, and maybe it takes some of the sting out because you still have five more days or six more days till opening night. Jordan said, I think we were made at five hundred or just slightly above in all games

without Kawhi. I have real faith in our roster, and in a few games Kawhi does play, we will have a winning record. We are making the playoffs, playoffs or play in Jordan playoffs or play in that is the question. Caesar Ramirez says, big chance for Terrence Man to show more. Him and Norm have to step up to keep us afloat Nothing inaccurate there him if he said Adam isn't Rockets picked to okay see top ten protected? Yeah, so the Rockets can't be too bad. I don't think they

should be bottom ten. The Rockets I think are playing team health permitting that goes for everyone. Jay says, not a wash season. All this talk and uncertainty about my Clippers has me feeling like the good old days when there was no expectations on us. We will shock many. Hashtag same old underdog, hashtag new dog house Hey, dogs in the house. Uh says he'll be back after the NBA Cup. Pointless conjecture. You have no information, Hunt a Hand says, I got Powell in my fantasy league, so

more playing time for him. What's the condition on Kai's contract? How can he make it guaranteed? I think with Kai Jones, is he's eligible for a two way, they have one more two way to give away. It's going to go to him. By all accounts, they need a backup center right now. Mobamba is out and he's played very well the last four games in the preseason. Game one was very shaky after that. As I always say, progress isn't linear,

except with Kai Jones. So they'd have to open up a roster spot for him to get a standard contract. Do they trade PJ and someone else a two for one so then they have that possibility for Kai someone else. I don't know. Se said that makes my decision easy. Read Uno d it is. When those red jerseys come, it is gonna be something. Triple J says, hope I get to see into it in person. I became a Clippers fan from Columbus because the Columbus NHL team shares

the Clippers name. And as a kid, I confuse them. That's funny. I like that. I like fan history, like that Triple j MHL NHL Minor League Hockey j said, hit the like button and subscribe boys Clipper Nation. I second that. Jason Chavez said, when will the pain end for us? I don't know. I'm thinking about Kawhi right now, then the Clippers organization front office, and then us. But I understand as fans this is so frustrating. I completely understand, guys, And if you want to lash out a little bit,

I'll take some of it. I didn't like what the guy said earlier. I won't even repeat it. There's some stuff that crosses the line. But because I know Kawhi wants to play, and I know how frustrated he is, and it's crazy that they're still dealing with swelling, and I you know, I have I have wondered before Ulma asked the question. I've told people this is behind the scenes. I've been like, you know, is his body just saying no more when they're swelling like this from playing and

doing things he used to be able to do. Is his body just saying that's enough? I don't know. I hope not. I hope they're figuring this thing out. But if he had surgery in May and it's almost gone five months later, I told you after we heard that from Lawrence Frake, that didn't make me or give me a vote of confidence. I try to be as honest as possible. I told you back in April what I thought the deal was with Swelling and how concerning that is.

But y'all didn't want to listen to me. He's playing game one, an'm you don't know, Jordan said, I have us anywhere from five to eight, So play an advantage play in advantage seeding where we have two chances to get the win either way. I'm sure we make it. In we would have the nine or ten seed shaking to play us in the play in Oh, they'd be shook. Jordan question, how many games do you have Kawi playing? Is that what's determining whether they're a five seed or

an eighth seed? Jm I thirteen twenty four said that December to end of season schedule gets dark for real. The night is dark and full of terror. I hope he gets back as soon as possible, and don't we all, and that he can stay on the court and it not be an in and out thing. That has always been my concern. See said, where are the real Clippers fans at Let's go Clippers? Wall needs to step up? Hey, it's been one game and I was damn impressed with

everybody at the wall and the supporter section. They were an incredible game one Monday night. Do you guys deserve a tip of the cap, a pat on the back. Well done, just rallying each other with a chance over and over again. It was loud and clear from the section we were at. I think in twenty five up there a little bit broadcasting row, Shakim Samuel said, how many wins do you think the team without Kawhi could win if Kawai plays zero games? Do you guys want

to talk about that? Is that gonna induce panic? If Kawhi plays zero games? How many can they win? I will go with forty forty and forty two. Maybe forty two and forty all right, I'll say forty two, just because they did do that without Kawhi in the twenty one twenty two season with only thirty one games from Paul George. Richard LW said, six months since the last game he tried to play, and all the club told the fans is managing inflamation, because that's probably all they know.

What else, what other information do you think they're holding back? Like, honestly, it's inflammation. Now, the root of that, the source cause of that is my concern. Triple J said, So is KPJ getting a guaranteed spot that means bones chances are slim to none? Huh, Well, guaranteed what do you mean by that weird terminology? He's signed through next season? He has two years on his contract, so yeah, we still don't know if he's gonna get suspended. We still don't

know his availability. And maybe that's one of the reasons they haven't traded Bones because I know in the past they have looked for a better situation for Bones to play. You're bringing Chris down and KPJ sure seems like Bones Highland. His plans aren't long for the Clippers or with the Clippers. Sergio Gutier says, will Kawhi ever wear the new Clippers jersey in an actual game? I hope so. Richard Heacock says,

I'm just jumping on not sure what's been said. I'm normally an optimist, but I think we need to be prepared for his career being over. I hate it for him more than anything. It's his career. Sergio Gutierrez says, Kawhi for Levine straight up. I don't know if the Bulls are doing that right now. I mean, Levine's pretty injury prone. I wouldn't do that. The Clippers are not gonna do that. Like Levin healthy, it still doesn't make you a contender or something like that. You get an

actual healthy Kawhi. I know it seems like a long shot right now, but an actual healthy Kawhi in a playoff series, you feel like you got a shot against anybody. Anthony Armstrong said, is KPJ going to be suspended to start the season. I don't know, Sir Jeremy Mormon. Anything as possible. Clippers could be really good without Kawhi and really bad without Kawhi. I don't know about really good without Kawhi. I think treading water without him is best

case scenario that Mexican nar is in here. One of the usuals. Wait, I'm late. What happened with Kawhi? All right? Little reset, It's much ado about nothing in some ways from anyone in the know or anyone that has listened to this show for weeks. Here, Jesse Beard tried to come in here and be like, don't you know this is what Lot Murray's been saying. Yeah, I've had him

on the show. I've been saying all this stuff. Thanks bro Cham Shradia reported this along with our friend Oum Young Masuk of ESPN, who has been on the show. Said Clipper star Kawhi Leonard expected to miss indefinite time to start the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA season as he and the team rehab his right knee for sustainability on the court. And then they reference stuff that is coming from past press conferences. That is all

information that's been out there. And I literally just did a deep dive like a week ago or maybe less than that here in this channel, a kind of Kawhi investigation based upon all the quotes we have heard that's way more in depth than actually anything we got in this I don't know, seven hundred word maybe article, maybe five hundred. It's it's nothing. Anybody who's surprised by this hasn't been paying attention. Triple Jay says Adam might have to lace him up and carry this team to forty wins.

Gregory says, people flipping out already as if why going to be out for the entire season. If he has to miss a third or half the season to play more in the postseason, so be it. I'm confident in the team without him. I'm glad you are. But if he misses half the season, it's gonna be really hard to get anything above the ninth or tenth spot. Jordan said, it would be great if Kawhi plays fifty to fifty five. I think that's the best of both worlds of load

management and staying competitive. Fifty to fifty to five sixty is five or six seed around forty five conjecture great great estimates. I'm glad. I'm glad you got all figured out, Jordan. As usual, Sure, Frank j said, Kawhi is a bona fide top top player, but at some point we got to cut our losses. We just resigned him. So isn't he locked in? Yes, we can't move him, even if we want to. You could. I don't know what you're

getting for him. I don't think the trade offers are coming in right now for Kawhi Leonard based upon his health. I don't think the Clippers necessarily want to trade him because he signified a transformational move by the team being a destination franchise for the first time ever. Kawhi chose them in twenty nineteen. Everybody won them first time the Clippers were able to land a guy like that. Soggy Cereal said we'll have a twenty twenty three Miami run

to the finals. I'm optimistically delusional. I agree with the last part this. Morgan Freemas said in seven Gregory he said, we'll be competitive and they'll be better than people expect. We gonna be all right. Just watch, okay and well if Gregory with two why says so, then wow? Why be concerned? Guys? Hansa Han says, any update on PGA trade on a PJ. Tucker trade, Nope, don't have one

for you. Probably just gonna have to wave them. Richard Heacock says, I like this roster is not a championship roster, but they're going to be fun this season. Go Clippers agree. I think this is a team that is very similar to the types that Clipper Nation has come to love and adore. JM I thirteen twenty four, says you all talking about trading Kawhi WQF are you gonna get for him? You might not even get a first round pick. Probably

not currently, I don't know. David Stegner said, greetings from Germany, Clipper family. What's up, David Stagner. I think it's nothing that we didn't expect already. I am hype for an underdog season. Let's make the best out of it. I like this. Oh no, siste one says hi Adam A. He was in time out at one point last night. Did Clippers talk after dark? Late last night? Before that, we had Darian Vagierion from Locked on Clippers If you want to check that out, Hellodollo said. Also, indefinite can

mean one week or months. Yes, indefinite just another way to say nobody knows right now? Is that not what I've been telling you? Nobody can know because they don't know how he is going to respond. Definition of indefinite if I read it off of Google lasting for an unknown or unstated length of time. Synonyms unknown, indeterminate, unspecified, unlimited, unrestricted. Somebody's like that means four to six weeks indefinite. Like, no, that's not what it definite means. I think they got

time out. Gregory said, last message for everyone not directed towards you, Adam, by the way well you set it in here, Jordan said, I disagree with your take that without Kawhi we are cooked. I believe without Kawhi we will be a five hundred team. A five hundred team. Did you check the standings last year, Jordan? In the Western Conference? Let me give it to you, uh NBA standings. Let me tell you what a five hundred team gets

you in the West. Because you keep talking about, oh, they'll be all right, they'll be fine, they'll be good enough without Kawhi to still be okay, to tread water and all these things overly optimistic. And I like the optimism, but I'm bringing realism here. The Houston Rockets were five hundred and forty one and forty one. They finished five games behind the Golden State Warriors, who were the tenth seed,

So five games away from being in the plan. The more you know, maybe do a little bit of research. Uh double X sick Angel said, what would it take, hypothetically for the Clippers to make the play in if Kawhi can't play this season? Hypothetically forty five to forty six wins somewhere in that range to make the low end of the play in probably Oscar Hemanez said, all you could hope is that the Clippers use this chance to develop younger players. We do not have draft picks,

so win with what you have. Yeah, there is no reason to bottom out right now, there's no incentive to do so. It doesn't make any sense. Someone tried to say, just lose this season. They were putting time out. Rafa meant to a a man after my own heart cut from the same cloth, said, keeping the receipts me too. Coffee and Ball said, I really wanted the Clippers to trade for zach Lavine, the second peg left when the Bulls would have loved to get off him right now

will be harder to get there. I have been telling you, before you try to trade for that replacement for Paul George, maybe just maybe see where Kawhi Leonard's health is at, because if he can't sustain play, it doesn't matter who you trade for. You're still not a contender without Kawhi. Well, this is dumb. Rafa, Mentue said. Addition, by subtraction, not having Kawhi insane. That might be a timeout. Sergio Gutierrez said, I'm not too impressed with Kobe Brown this preseason. Hopefully

he can show something tonight. He's my player to watch. I think he's going to get minutes. Jordan said he wants to walk back something he said earlier that sounded dumb, and now he wants to correct himself. Maybe. Jordan said, I'm saying without Kawhi we would be five hundred. Kawai will play in some games, so if we stay in five hundred without him, we will boost to a higher winning record, adding the games he does play well, He's out and definitely right now, so let's see what happens.

Sist A one said Adam a. In your opinion, which teams in the West got better? Most of them? I'll run it down for you. I've talked about it plenty. The Clippers are the one team that most people are saying, oh, clearly got worse last season losing Paul George. I'll give it to you here. The Oklahoma City Thunder better and they won fifty seven games over the number one seed. You get Isaiah Hartenstein, you get Alex Gruso, You're better They're gonna win sixty games if they stay healthy. The

Denver Nuggets, you can say they got slightly worse. They lost KCP Jamal Murray. I'm a little bit concerned about his health right now. He hasn't looked right. Minnesota Timberwolves depends on who you ask. I think they may have gotten a little bit better, but I think they are in contention for a top four seed once again in the Western Conference at worse by trading Karl Anthony Towns they bring in Devincenzo. Depends on they make Julius Randall fit.

The Dallas Mavericks. I don't think they're making the NBA Finals, but they can have a better regular season where they finished better than fifth. I could see that happening, just because think about it this way. They didn't pick up Daniel Gafford and PJ. Washington until late in the season when there were thirty games left. Now they have them for an entire year and that defense. Now they lost Derrick Jones Junior to the Clippers. They brought in Klay Thompson,

who's slicking a little bit on the wash side. I hope not because I love Klay Thompson, but what do you go oh of eight or oh of nine the other night against the Clippers? That into it dumb. They're in contention for a top five seed, Top four, May, top three Phoenix. I don't see how they can get much worse than last season. Just won forty nine games, stayed out of the plan. We're the sixth seed health permitting.

They do have issues there. Katie's older Devin Bookers have been a little bit banged up, Bradley Beal has health issues. If they're healthy, they could be higher than the sixth spot. The Lakers. I don't know if they're getting seventy games out of Anthony Davis and Lebron James this season, But I think JJ Reddick will be a much better coach than Darvin Ham and actually can optimize lineups and put the best five out there, which is kind of critical

to coaching. They have a possibility to be better. New Orleans Pelicans de Jontay Murray's there. They still have Brandon Ingram. What's gonna happen with that? But if they get more games and a Zion Williamson can be better. Sacramento Kings get Tomar de Rosen. They lost two less games last season, then the year before and they dropped from the three seed to the ninth seed. Brutal. That's the West. They can be better. Golden State. I don't know. They could

be right around the same forty six wins. They need good health too with Steph Curry. But I see the Houston Rockets being better. They won forty one games, and remember they petered out at the very end. They were in a race with Golden State for that final playing spot and they faded. I like Emo O'dukah's Odoka is a really good coach, and they have a lot of young talent, and they should be better. They should. They could be competing with the Clippers all season long. They

play each other four times. Utah has less incentive to tank. They could still get the draft pick, but they can't trade Laurie markin it. He's there the entire year. So they could be better than thirty one wins the Memphis Grizzlies. The last two times they were healthy, they were a top three seat in the West. Last year they weren't healthy. They had twenty seven wins. They should be a lot better. San Antonio. They're better than twenty two win team. They're

better just by playing when Byama more minutes. They babied him last year. They won't be doing that as much. They have CP three, they have some other young guys. If Devin Vessel can get healthy, and I know he's already banged up Portland twenty one wins last year, I don't know. They could be worse. Who knows. Triple J says, I got about fifteen more minutes here. Triple J says, you and other Clippers media defend the front office, but I just don't get why they keep the fans out

of the loop. Same with PG injury before the Suns Round one series, like it was a competitive advantage, not to say a guy's out for the series to make the other team still have to game plan for them. You're not going to do that. Other teams wouldn't do that necessarily either. If you look at any team star players and how murky and vague injury reports can be, it's not that unusual. I'm sorry, I think it's a little bit my opic. You're just looking at it through

the lens of a Clippers fan. Rafam mentwo As said Westbrook. That's it. Yeah, they can be better without Russ. I think Jordan said, we aren't going the whole season without Kawhi, so bringing up a straight up five hundred season doesn't compute. We don't know anything. He's out indefinitely, hope not. But when he's back, is he playing at that high of a level. Remember it took a while. Go look at the numbers when he first came back from the ACL

before he was Kawhi again. Evil Bot said Kendrick Perkins saying he's retire. He and Stephen A. King f off. Mo Hassen said if the front office wave PJ, could they sign Kai to a regular contract in Williams to the two way while staying under the cap. I am not sure about that, so I don't want to guess. Rafam Mentue said, Minnesota not better. They ain't much worse. Uh more minutes for nas reed is a good thing. They are not much worse, if at all. I don't

think you understand. Anthony Edwards is like twenty three. He is going to get better. Dallas isn't better. They can be better seating wise. I don't think they're gonna make the finals regular season, though they could be. Hullo Dollo said, the people that keep saying lose this season or trade him right now. Either aren't Clippers fans or have absolutely zero clue about the state of the franchise with the picks and how trades actually work. Agree those people have

been putting time out often. Timothy said, I think it's time for l Frank to go. He can't come out being disappointed at the Team USA decision than three months later Kawhi is out in definite. A lot of politician or politics happening, and we don't need a politician. Yeah, welcome to big business. Like you think this is unusual for just the Clippers, Like if he felt good during Team USA, then he should have had an opportunity to play, period. I get it's weird, and I don't know if anybody's

ever asked that question. So you were ready to play five on five for Team USA, but now the season is starting and you're out, and definitely that doesn't seem to line up. I understand that disconnect there. I have asked that question. I asked lat Murray. He put it as he's trying to play eighty two games versus ten games in team with Team USA. I don't know. Rafa mentu A, said Brian James and Reddick are a joke.

Oh god, Triple J said, Brian Shaw had the most authentic response I have seen from someone in the Clippers organization since two and three started shaking my head. Rafaman two, I gotta stop going to him. Richard Heacock said, Triple J. What did Shall say? No? Actually this is good? What did Brian Shall say? Check out Clippers Talk after Dark from last night in the live section here on YouTube. Richard Heacock said, I understand the strength of the West.

I think because of it, there might not be a sixty win team. Everyone rest players has injuries and tries hard to beat one another. Two maybe that can help us. Yeah, they can beat each other up, which drives down records. That could happen. I just think of o Case he's healthy. Because of how young they are, they are actually a team that could win sixty games. They have guys who are young getting better, and typically younger guys stay healthier,

and they're loaded with everything you can want. Coffee and Ball said, regarding the Levine comment, I disagree with or without Leonard having Levin at the very least doesn't gif rap picks to the teams. We owe them to plus his contract runs concurrent to Kawha's. That's part of the problem. Coffee and Ball. They want money opened up in twenty twenty six. If they have Levine under contract, who has an opt in for fifty million during that summer, that

does not help them get other free agents. So you're missing part of the equation a little bit. I understand your point about staying afloat and above the Houston Rockets. That's not a bad one. Lay Low Concer said, what's up, Adam? What's up? La Lo Lo Loo from better Coole Saul? I love them, man, hear me out. What if we trade Kawhi straight up for lebron Uh? That's hear me out?

Time out. Triple J said that the corporate response is basically to be patient with Kawhi, basically saying we have to hold Kawhi's hands, maybe insinuating him and others or over it. You're reading into way too much there. Nicholas I said, quit pairing up Kawhi with another crutch. The dude is done La la before he was hitting for timeouts that I love Kawhi, but man, this game so old. I can understand the frustration. I try to think of it from his perspective, though, My god, he's one of

the greatest players ever. Guys, there is a scenario on Earth too where Kawhi has a healthy career and is in the damn Goat conversation. Legit, that's how good he is when he's healthy. Jackson Snow said, Minnesota spacing got much worse, and that's a huge lost for them. You think their spacing got much worse because Julius Randall and Kat You're forgetting Devincenzo is there. You're forgetting nas Reed's gonna play more and he can shoot. I don't think you, guys,

this is wishful thinking. Oh no, Minnesota got worse. Dell's got so much worse. This is wishful thinking. I'm sorry they did not get significantly worse. Evil Bot said Memphis is better this season, no kidding, man. I brought it up. The last two times they were healthy, they were a top three seed in the West. Now they've had some health concerns already in the preseason. But Deka Fantastic said being a good GM isn't managing fans, it's managing players.

Saggy Cereal said it's constructing a team. Actually that can compete, and the Clippers, if they were ever healthy, they could have. They can't account the front office for Kawhi doing his acl in the middle of a run where we all thought they were gonna win the championship. That's not their fault. They can't account for them. And he misses a year, then he comes back, does his meniscus. Now he has swelling.

I'm sorry. Every GM in the history of basketball would have made the trade, So don't tell me this is on Laurence Frank Saggy Cereal said out in definitely means nothing changed. I like our team now. If Kawhi returns, that's cherry on top. Season hasn't even started, so we can't be doomers yet. Good. I like that, Baha, Sharif said, DeMarcus Cousins and Lou Williams just said in affirm that l Frank is the problem. Well, I didn't hear that. I gotta hear the context, Timmy, he said, Adam, are

you going live for today's game? Of course, I'll be it into a Dome pregame of six thirty. We'll be live on here and on the postgame show. Jay says. Starting the season eight and two. Can't wait for the Clippers' top post game. Let's go Clippers. Yeah, I'd sign up for five and five in the first ten games after Active Sports tv LA Clippers News says, so Frank was upset with Team USA for Kawhi being sent home, but the whole time Kuhi was really injured. We don't

know exactly what was going on there. SS said, Hey, Adam, I could find you on the AM after last preseason game, or I couldn't find you on the AM. You were only online last preseason game. We were on a five to seventy. We were on there, but not for Clippers after Dark. I'm doing a lot of stuff here that's just YouTube exclusive. Now if you're just signed up for the podcast side on Spotify or iTunes or iHeart sorry, but I'm posting a lot of exclusive content on YouTube here.

I've got like six episodes here that are not there. Just in the past week, Jordan said, I'm confident on a night to night basis only teams I can see out matching as straight up as four teams thunder t Wolve, Celtics and Knicks. I'm sorry, man, you're out to lunch. You're crazy. I don't know. I don't think you understand

how much top end talent means in the NBA. I don't know if you heard this, but it's a superstar diverer league, and a lot of teams on paper, based upon the Clippers' health, are going to have the talent advantage most nights couldn't. I don't know that means. Active Sports tv LA Clippers News says Laurence Frank can't be trusted. I'm done with that stuff. Jordan's said, Philly and regular season walls to be a load managing cool story bro Active Sports tv LA Clippers News said our organization is

looking like a joke. Okay, we got another Doomer here. Hello Dolo said, Yeah, they're looking like such a joke. With the best arena in the history of the world. Hello Dolo said, Okay, see lost iHeart for Isaiah Hartenstein for about two months with an injury. They might have a rough time without a center. Wait, what's the Isaiah Hartenstein injury? Out for two months? Am I the casual here? I know he has a hand injury. Oh that just came out earlier today, miss five to six weeks. Yeah,

they'll still be fine. Uh, sucks for Hartenstein. Okay, see though I love Isaiah Hartenstein, get better, speedy recovery. Coffee and Ball said, good point twenty twenty six free agent classes loaded anyways, doing a great job at him. Enjoy the rest of your day. Appreciate you, Coffee and Ball raphe L Romo said, just joined Kawhi out and definitely yeah, that's that's what the header says here too. Triple J said never seeing Kawhi pass the second round in a

Clippers UNI is depressing. Deca fantastic said. Tyleru said, we may have to piss off Kauwhi. Yes, I brought that up this quote multiple times. If you check out the Kawhi investigation I just did about his right knee swelling in the episode section, in the live section, just within last week, you would not have been surprised, surprised at all by anything that occurred. Yet today. He also said it seems like Kawhi voice he wanted to play opening day,

but the Clippers clearly are protecting him. I agree with that they should be. Triple X Sick Angel said, I got ten minutes left. Maybe need some more Jordan Miller in my life and love the content you've been pushing out, you've been grinding. Thank you, appreciate you for noticing. Mk x LNT said, this is a fantastic opportun you need to accomplish the unexpected. Let's see what our guys can do. No woman, no kawhi uh we Marley h. Nicholas I said, I'm going to the game tonight, see the new stadium

and Lop City too. Kai Jones, well, no doubt I would expect him to be playing. I know there's gonna be some starters likely out, but just more room for Kai Jones KPJ to get some more run I'm expecting, and then Jordan Miller Kobe Brown. Need to see them be at their best tonight. Here. In the last preseason game, Jackson Snow said, people don't guard Nas the same way

they guard Cat Biggs. Are more willing to let to let to let the ten points per game score shooters of the twenty two point per dude they guard nasried, you don't know what you're talking about. If you think they are significantly worse the Minnesota Timberwolves, you don't you know. I'm sorry you haven't watched how they have played already. As Nasrie is the sixth Man of the Year winner, and I thought he should have won it last season, even though I love Norm. He should have been top three.

But I thought nas Reed should have won it. He just got forty one percent from the outside. They weren't all open shots. If you think Minnesota is significantly worse with one of the best players in the league, Anthony Edwards, who is getting better better, He's twenty three, guys, He's not gonna be worse. Jamal Murray posted it, posted what I'm gonna check it out a lot? Murray, then you love him? Uh? I don't know what'd he post? Something

Kawhi related, not seeing it being derailed. Andy Ate one two nine three said, I just hate all the Clippers go about it, acting like fans wanting to know Kawhi's health is none of our business, but then asking us to pay top dollar to watch this team. Can't have it both ways. What would you like to know about his health? What can they tell you other than the inflammation? And I have to see How's new response? Who can know more than that? Sergio Gutierrez said, Adam, I've been

waiting for the Clippers content like yours for years. I just hope you don't get burnt out. Not gonna happen. Keep up the fantastic work. Also, Fred Rogan is a boob. I love Fred. It's a love hate relationships sometimes, but mostly love red and blue, mostly blue. Old Dirty Dashers said, stick a fork and us were cooked. Old dirty Dashers and old dumer on here Jackson snow said, never said they were much worse. Then stop. There's still a top four team in the West, So what is your point?

Nas had the benefit of Cat being with him on the Floorida help space. He played a lot without Cat. Your nuts, man, you didn't watch Minnesota. I don't think you guys understand Minnesota's defense being the number one defense by a wide margin. That's not gonna fall off because they lost Carl Anthony Towns. They're not going to be outside of a top five defense, Evil Bot said, Johnston and and Koompo will be a Clipper. Thanks or nothing? Easy Oh said, what does this Kawhi injury mean for

this season? Less competitive trade for someone? Rewind all right, I'm out. Maybe I'll have something even before the game, even before six point thirty, even before a pregame, depending on how early I get to into it DOM. I might do a live stream from the parking lot for the doors open for media. I love y'all. Try to stay as positive as possible. Again, this is a lot of a non story with Kawhi letter today. I appreciate you guys being in here. This is the norm for me.

There's breaking news. I'll do my best to go live for you until next time. At worst, you'll see me at six point thirty pregame show Clippers Countdown, Clippers taken on the Sacramento Kings some preseason game number five. I met Amslin and we will talk to you then