Civic Cipher 112721 Ahmaud Arbery Trial Verdict Reaction (Part B)

around for that as well. I think if you understand the origins of policing, then you understand how the systems began as oppressive and still maintained that oppressive culture about them. But first, let us talk about how to become a better ally. And so I want to talk about a story my sources from CNN. I read an article about

CNN about this. This is really cool. I thought. Some students at a Massachusetts high school held a walk out to protest a racist video made by a white student, to demand and to demand the change to the culture of racism in the school district. A top school official set, we heard them today, said Kevin W. Mulvey, who serves

as the super intendent of Quincy Public Schools. Speaking CNN, he described to walk out as a protest against quote racism, hate speech, and injustice end quote knowledge that beyond the recent video, students have made complaints in the past about racism within the school district, saying the district confronted another recent incident last week that included hate speech and sexual harassment.

A white freshman made a video over a year ago in which he used racist language, hate speech, and hate speech against black people, and it recently resurfaced on social media. According to the movie and a news release from school district, a black student approached the white student about the video and a physical altercation occurred on Tuesday. The white student was injured and needed to be treated for head injuries.

Moby said. Students in the walkout called her disciplinary actions against the white student no disciplination, this disciplinary actions against the black student and immediate change as to how the administration handles racism. This student and it handles racism, I say, And so just a neat example of some folks coming together and saying, you know what, this is not right, not just a student, but the way that the system

is dealing with this student and folks getting together. This is a young folks getting together using their privilege to try to bring about some publicity to you know, the changes that they want to see in the world. And so I want to salute them as our better allies and suggest that you, our listener, should aspire to become more like them. Now a mod Aubrey. So, just like with the first part of the show, Q, what are your thoughts about the verdict the verdicts on that trial?

an investigation to figure out if these things happened or not. No, the trials are about whether or not they're going to be held accountable, and we're in a position where we kind of always know that they won't be and in the event that we are, we celebrate as if there's some victory that happened. These people murdered a person on video,

Like what are we even waiting to see that? The judge is going to say, I don't even understand, Like, we wait in anticipation to see if these people who we saw murder someone will be held accountable for that murder. And in this instance they were, and there's some relief, but there's no satisfaction. And I know people will be listening like, well, hey, when Rittenhouse got off, you were so upset, and now these guys are being held accountable. Yeah,

they're supposed to be held accountable. It's not like I'm not asking that people get some type of excessive punishment for what they do, and not asking that people be

punished more than they should be. But the absolute minimum that we should expect when we watch three people murderer person on video is that those three people are found guilty of murder because we know they did it and listening to their defense attorney paint a picture of a person that was beneath being held accountable for murdering, describing him as dirty, reinforcing the idea that you know, they're not even really people, they're not even really worth us

being so upset over and they've gotten She leaned into it to a point where it was, where's blatant, It's not even subliminal anymore? Right, You guys shouldn't punish these men for hunting this man down and murdering him. What was he even doing in that neighborhood? How dare he feel like he should even be able to exist in the same space as these people.

first part of the show. There's a lot of inconsistencies with the criminal justice system, and with the court system was sentencing and so forth. And this is why we

say we look at trends. You know, I have a good friend, her name is Alyssa, works in DC and she follows trends right, And we had a conversation on airplane one time where you know, when you take a step back and you look at overall what's happening, then you see how the system disproportionately affects black and brown people and provides an advantage or you know, it provides

an advantage to folks who are less mellanated. We'll say, but these incidents, these these instances, rather what we're looking at is, especially with the Amaud Aubrey, we have a judge who I feel is a little bit more judge like when compared to the Written House trial, the prosecutor was a little bit more on top of the game than the defense attorney. What was at the I'm sorry, and then the prosecutor was in the in the written

House trial. And that's just a personal opinion. You know that the prosecuting the Written House trial was talking about like video games and do you play video games and things like that really didn't have a really translated into results, you know, and they wouldn't. But you know, you, you're you made an excellent point. None of that should matter

because it's literally on video. Okay, And and I'll say it and and this is the one thing that I loved about this trial is because you know, folks with a little bit of sense could breathe a sigh of relief, you know when this verdict was read. If you show up with the gun, you're the threat. That that is. That is a blanket statement across the board. You know, I mentioned all the time we've we've been very critical of the way policing has been done in this country.

But this is something I wish every officer knew, you know, as a constant, they should like put it as a sticker in the car before they get out. If you show up with the gun, you are the threat.

saw the video and we saw what happened. This guy is doing his thing and you showed up with the gun, and he was trying to defend himself from you, because if you're just driven down the street, he wouldn't have attacked you. You know, the same thing with the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. But again we're coming to terms with Wow. You know, there's a lot of strange things going on, a lot of inconsistencies going on, you know, and and you know I watched him read that verdict, and you're right,

there is no real satisfaction. You know. Relief is a great word, because it's a very scary thing to feel like despite these courtrooms all being different in different states, with different laws and different on stand your ground over here and you know whatever over there, different judges with different you know, different juries, with different outlooks, whatever. But to feel like you're gonna get a second gut punch in the in the verdict of this Amad Aubrey trial,

that's a very scary feeling. So when they read the guilty verdict, you know, I know that that sense of relief, but You're right, there is no satisfaction there because immediately after that, what they do they penned to his mother crying, and then it hits you her son is gone. And we're dealing with a court. We're not even dealing with the fact. Okay, why are we mistreated each other? Why are we so afraid of each other? Why do we hate each other so much? Why are we not listening

to each other? You know, we're so far on on on opposite ends of ideas, and and you know whatever, we ask the question all the time, like why in the world would people vote against their own interest? You know, it's a it's a valid question, it makes a lot of sense. But you know, as long as they can vote for something that's not us, you know, then that

that's all that it is, you know. And and I can appreciate that because I've cast my vote in that same fashion before, because I'll vote for anything as long as it's not Donald Trump that represents a threat to my life. And you know, I could, I could make an argument for that. And you know, so there's a much bigger system that is causing issues like this to happen in the first place. Before we even get to

the courts you got to go. It's it's a lot of steps you got to get through to get to a court deciding whether or not the person who killed a person was guilty or innocent. You got the whole systemic. First, you have the outlook, how do we view each other, how do we interact with each other? Then you've got a society, like a framework that reinforces subjugation. You know, where people think, well, black people just go to jail

more because they're bad. There's people that really think that they don't wrap their heads around it beyond that point because they're not black. It's not their problem.

And so yeah, to know that we got all the way to the end, and there was a sense of relief. I think you nailed that one. You hit that right on the head. But let us not forget that. Okay, So how about this, que You remember how long it took those two guys to get arrested, the two guys that actually killed a mad Aubrey.

They chased him down in a truck and killed them. That's the most lynching, Like, that's like the epitome of a lynching. And these guys are still at home. They got in a truck with guns and chased them down and murdered him in the street, died on the sidewalk. That's crazy, and so we can see that. Yes, initially this was set up for these three men to go go on about their lives. You know, they could say

whatever they wanted to say, you know whatever. But you know, when you put all the videos together, it was a video of him walking into the house house and then walking out, you know, maybe a minute later. It was an abandoned house or construction zone or whatever. Just went in to check it out, didn't take anything from the house.

And again it's well, I can't say it's impossible to claim self defense when you're the person with the gun. You know you're there.

in which that prosecutor could work. So again, I'm not knocking anybody who's trying to help us, you know, away.

get your thoughts on it. I kind of know what they are, but good.

to purposely not subscribe to very straightforward logic. I'm looking at this video of a man running away being cornered, trying to not be murdered, being murdered, But somehow I think he's still the reason why he got murdered. It's his fault. He shouldn't have been there, He shouldn't have been black, he shouldn't have been at at the property, shouldn't have dirty Yeah, he shouldn't have had dirty toe nails. Like,

what are we talking about, ma'am? His dirty toe nails were somehow the reason why he deserved to be murdered that day. And no, she didn't say that, but why else described that? Why else tried to make this person out to be somehow less than less than clean, less than good less than deserving to not be murdered that day for simply being outside at the same time as

the men that murdered him. They murdered him because they felt like it, and because they felt like they could, and because they felt like they could and get away with it, and they almost did. And it's a shame.

country after the written House verdict. And then on the other hand, which I know it's not quite as high a profile, but it's in the same time, on the other hand, it says, well, wait a minute, hold on, if you're going to do that, you got to make sure that you know, blah blah blah. Is that in the third you know, And so it's a mixed bag, you know. And if anything, I wouldn't say that the world is a little bit better. If I had to say something, I would say the world's a little bit worse.

But it has a lot to do with that written House verdict. You know. The people on the right are so charged by that, they're so happy with that, they're so elated with that, And that's the point, right, Yeah, it's really sad. It's not that justice has been served. It's celebratory in a way that's like blatant vigilante, blatant white supremacis. And I heard somebody or saw somebody argue it can't be white supremacy because the people he killed

were white and they're completely missing the point. The people that he killed were white, but they were in the streets in support of black people. Boom, right, did you guys not read anything about slavery white people? Well, that freed slaves were considered criminal and shot too. White people that housed and helped free and fed and taught non free black slaves were considered on the same side of

the tracks as those black slaves. So the fact that this guy murdered people because they were in the streets protesting the mistreatment by black people by law enforcement made them somehow worthy of justice, less worthy of their lives being worth more than being shot down by this kid who couldn't wait to get into the street and shoot people. Like,

let's start. The kid got into a car, drove to another state with an assault rifle to shoot people, and then shot them, and then went home and then went to bars and took pictures and posed with people and had celebrities raise money for him. And now he's being lauded as some type of hero. Oh and our former president's son posted a meme of his dad awarding this

kid the Medal of Freedom. I'm not making this up, people, Well again, a mixed bag, and you know, we're here to talk about it, and we're here to get through it together. That's what we do on Civic Cipher. We recognized that black people are more than just the songs and the dances that you hear on the radio. And you know, we were actual people with actual lives and

hopes and dreams. And we appreciate those of you who are standing with us and marching with us and protesting with us and trying to fight for a world that's fair for all of us. And as long as you keep that energy, we'll keep it too. Moving on the way. Black history fact. So in case you didn't know, policing started as slave patrols. So my source this week I borrowed heavily from the New Yorker magazine, so I'll read through this. The origins of modern day policing can be

traced back to the quote slave patrol quote. The earliest formal slave patrol was created in the Carolinas in the early seventeen hundreds, with one mission to establish a system of terror and squashed slave uprising with the capacity to pursue, apprehend, and return runaway slaves to their owners. Included the use of excessive force to control and produce desired slave behavior. I. So this is a quote from their like when they

get sworn in their oath. So quote I in the patroller's name, do swear that I will as searcher for guns, swords, and other weapons among the slaves in my district, faithfully and as privately as I can discharge the trust reposed in me, as the law directs, to the best of my power. So help me, God can quote. So that's the Yeah, that's the North Carolina slave patrol oath. Slave patrols continued until the end of the Civil War and

the passage of Thirteenth Amendment. Following the Civil War, during reconstruction, slave patrols were replaced by malicious style groups who were empowered to control and deny access to equal rights to freed slaves. Basically, we're going to change the title of your job to make it compliant. But you know, don't go nowhere. They relentlessly and systematically enforced black codes. If you don't know what black codes are, we want to make a note. We're going to talk about black codes

one day. The strict local and state laws that regulated and restricted access to labor wages, voting rights, and general freedoms for formerly enslaved people. In eighteen sixty eight, ratification of the fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution technically granted equal protections to African Americans, essentially abolishing black codes. Jim Crow laws, and state local statutes that legalized racial segregation

swiftly took their place. By the nineteen hundreds, local municipalities began to establish police departments to enforce local laws in the East and Midwest, including Jim Crow laws. Local municipalities leaned on police to enforce and exert excessive brutality on African Americans who violated any Jim Crow law. Jim Crow laws continued through the end of the nineteen sixties. Remember this is from the New Yorker. This isn't from Ramsay, this isn't from black people dot com. Like this is

the New Yorker, right, So I'll read a quote. The quote, the crisis in policing is the culmination of a thousand other failures, failures of education, social services, public health, gun regulation, criminal justice, and economic development. In eighteen sixty eight, ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution technically granted equal protections to African Americans, essentially abolishing black codes and Jim Crow laws. Yeah, the gym Crow laws continued through

the nineteen sixties. Okay, perfect, all right, So your first reaction to that, your initial reaction to policing as a form of keeping slaves, subdued.

they got this lynching your lady. You're trying to go, call them picnics or you know what I mean, y'are trying to go because just get the kids and just meet us over there, because they're they're like they got the hang in today, So you guys want to grab a couple of beers and just go that.

They're smiling, having a good time. Nobody felt like anything was wrong. None of those laws and none of the things that were put into place from that time have done a lot of changing since then. Right, the profit centers have changed, the way that the capitalist society makes money has changed, and that's afforded us a few more freedoms. But this massive amount of progress that we feel like we've made, we haven't. And the police, the slave patroths,

still operate rate the same way. And you can tail this from something as simple as a traffic stop. Okay, when we get pulled over for not doing anything. Drug dogs are called when they get pulled over for actually committing crimes or picked up or arrested for actually committing crimes. They get taken to get something to eat and or help down the steps. So if you want to know how I feel, I can't really express all of that. Well, but it's not good.

to divorce themselves from the history of this country. And you can't really do that because the history, the legacy,

and the framework. We have to examine the history to understand what it's doing, how it's actively harming people, and how it has harmed people for such a long time and gives us a sense of scale and the snowball effect and so forth, And so it's important for us to talk about these things, and that's why we have the show and that's why we do this, and because you're listening, we want to take a moment to say thank you for listening to us and hopefully we've said

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