Civic Cipher 070922 Police Take Mass Shooters Into Custody Alive (Part 2)

In fact, we're gonna delve into the history of the Fourth of July itself and talk a little bit about when it was a black holiday. How about that, Maggie b Knowing our show producer unearthed a little nugget for us here, So stick around for that way Black History factor. First, let's discuss Baba becoming a better ally? Shall we shall? This one is sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly Magazine. Shout out to them, They really look out for us here on this show, which By the way, a lot of

great things happening for the show. I want to make it a point to drop our cash app and our zell and our Patreon. It's all at Civic Cipher. You can support the show. Obviously, this is a lot of work to do the show, but we don't mind doing it. It's the growing the show part that is kind of challenging, and everyone that supports fiscally really helps us to take advantage of that. Now, Maggie this week wants us to becoming better ally by not just being an ally but

being an advocate. And being an advocate basically is kind of going above and beyond just kind of supporting, you know, with your words, but actually supporting with your actions, not just being empathetic, right, but actually creating the change. So, the way she explains is that you want to perform things or do things rather that can be performed in action across a wide spectrum and variety of channels. She asks us, can you provide mentoring, small business, consulting, graphic design,

where client service training, legal or advocacy assistance. Can you share some advice or time with someone with a group, with an organization that you normally wouldn't in efforts to collectively challenge the status quo and dismantle oppressive and harmful institutions and systems, some of which we identified earlier in the program. As she puts it, kind of like what you said to Please don't just empathize with us. Please don't just feel bad for us. Please help us create

lasting and meaningful change. So this week, that is how you can become a better ally. All right, back to the lecture at hand. All right, So let's talk a bit about the shooting over the weekend in Chicago at the parade suburb of Chicago. Suburb of Chicago. It wasn't like hyrax Chicago, right, You.

won't die. Black on black crime is not a thing. Crime happens with people that are close to you, and people that are close to you often look like you. Meaning of white people kill white people, which is often the case. There is no term called white on white crime that we can point to and say, see, this

is what white people always do. But that black on black crime thing allows these oppressive systems to continue to put the blame on us rather than to really identify and deal with the source of a lot of these systemic issues again the economic equality, inequality, etc. Sorry sidebar, but I felt like it was a teachable moment. Do you want to tell the story about what happened in Chicago? Should I?

the shots going off. Most people are not filming in classrooms, people aren't filming in the grocery stores, you know, but people are filming the parade, so you can kind of get a sense of how slow people are to respond to the shots.

with the fourth of July? Are those fireworks exactly exactly so? And then there's drums and all kinds. You know, that's sort of you know, guns. Your brain will tell you whatever fits the narrative, what your eyes are seeing, you know what I mean. But anyway, these folks hear these shots go off and then of course start running away. Suspect he wore a disguise, he was dressed as a woman,

got on a roof, shot everybody up left. And the thing that we need to talk about here is of course the fact that he was apprehended, which was also on video, stopped by police, a bunch of police behind the car. They found it. Well, great clean police. I need to say that, Yeah, he was fleeing the police. He was doing the same the other story that walker.

to say that story. And he's fleeing because he's terrified because maybe if he shot the gun accidentally or whatever, Now he's even more afraid. He puts on a ski mask to try to conceal his identity, books it into the night, trying his best to get away from what he believes to be an absolute certainty. These people are going to kill me. And initially I was just like kind of thinking that they might let me see if I conduct this. Now I know it for a fact.

I'm out, boom gone dead. Back to the Chicago shooter. We don't try to Illinois to keep saying Chicago guys, Illinois, thank you, park Illinois. But we don't say the mass shooter's name is because we work in media and we're doing our part to not turn these guys into heroes. So this scumbag. We'll call him scumbag. How about that? You know the police get behind him. Of course he's trying to get away. They get behind him, he gets out of his car. Is the police approach the car,

take him without incident, without further incident. They know he's armed, they know he's dangerous, they know he's a killer. And he just killed somebody, right, they knew exactly what they were looking for.

reference him a lot. He's a person that shot up a church and theyre took him to Burger King after they arrested him.

same way they treat black people. There's some people that say police should treat everyone the same way they treat white people. But in either case, the police should treat everyone the same. Right, I think every the police should treat everyone in the way they treat white folks. That's what I think, you know what I mean, because I believe that the police often overstep and we see some of our white brothers and sisters become victims of police brutality.

Remember we did that story about the handicap man was he was deaf and I think it was in a wheelchair too, and he couldn't hear and couldn't move or something. It was the story maybe a year and a half ago, something like that. But you know, he was not a black man, but the police just beat him up and put him in a jail for how many months before he even got a chance to talk to the judge.

This doesn't happen to just us, but it happens to us more frequently, and we cant to systemic issues and so we don't want to.

a threat. We still need to handcuff this guy so that it's clear that he's a criminal and a bad person. And like, it has to take something beyond fearing for your life to place handcuffs on a course that you just murdered.

Mass shooters that actually killed me. We know that it happened, eye witnesses everything, They know exactly what they're looking for it. I got the a be out with the photo. This is who this is our person of interest blah blah blah versus a traffic stop. Every black person knows what we just talked about. You know, how do black people feel when this is our reality? How do we feel? What do we think our lives are worth to this country? To the police. You know, there's why don't black people

ever talk to the police? You know, it's a real thing. Why don't black people trust me? Why? You know, the police are trying to engage with this impoverished community, but you know they're not getting a lot of help. Only a couple of pastors, but the well, the police have a lot of rebuilding to do because our reality suggests to us that outcomes are often worse for you if you are melanated. And when the news blows this stuff up.

You said it happens daily, the mass shootings, right, I mean, I don't know more than daily.

targets black men. That doesn't mean if they if they catch you slipping, you know, no, they will invent it. We've seen it happen some of our friends who protest and some activists. As soon as they get on the streets, they are targeted specifically, they know who they are. They get them over something and they trump up all the charges and then they're in the system. Right, But this is a thing that happens, you know what I mean. The police will grab you, try their best to find

something wrong. They start with the assumption you're doing something wrong, and if they can't find anything, sometimes they actually make it up. You know, I'm not saying they make it up, but they make it up. Right where if you had not been a black man, then obviously that jaywalking is

you know what I mean. Come on. So the crazy thing is that now we've done hundreds of these stories, literally hundreds of them, and so no one can come here and tell me that I'm not wrong, because now we have our own system here, we have our own database here. Right. But it's very telling that we see week in and week out, the way we are engaged as black people relative to non black people, we see outcomes that are very different. You know, we had our

conversation with doctor Westernberg recently. We recognize that the abortion, the overturning of Roe v. Way by the Supreme Court has at least a leg in racist belief in ideology, and it disproportionately affects black women because equomen get abortions at higher rates. And there's reasons for that, you know. But the fact is is that almost it's blows my mind.

It blows my mind because I grew up thinking, Okay, racism exists, you got to keep a lookout for it, you know what I mean, and when you see it, you have to be prepared to deal with it. That's what I grew up thinking. When I became an adult, I realized that everything, everything is rooted in racism, like the whole sum total of it all. How in the world did they get this off for so long and bury it well because there was no need to, because because it's not just based in racism, it's based in

white supremacy. There it is so.

the system that not only holds us down but themselves. Right, we're the only nation where our champions, our Olympians, our people that represent our country are booed in our country as people cheer the champions and athletes from other countries because they're also white We don't care that you're an American like us, you're not white like us. We don't care that you're poor like us, you're not white like us. We don't care that you have all these disadvantages like us.

let me share something. Just so you know, it might have been twenty thirteen, twenty twelve, somewhere in there you and I wanted to do a show together on the radio about relationships. Yeah, we did. That would have been the coolest showld have been so fun. We would have had so many jokes.

So the title is Parades Recitals in More when July fourth was a Black holiday. Wow, I know July fourth is past. But the way the show works, you know, we have to talk about certain things in a certain order. We have to get to stuff this pressing. So I know our timeline isn't always the way we want it to be, but there's a reason for it. We're trying to prioritize what we need to prioritize. It was also never a wrong time to talk about history. Very good, Okay,

I'll take that now, I'll read. July fourth, or Independence Day, is usually marked with cookouts, barbecues, fireworks, and all types of celebrations. As the day Americans formally claimed their independence after a war with Great Britain, it is considered the best time for US citizens to show off their patriotism. For Black Americans, it can bring mixed feelings reminders of how some of the United States's early successes was built

off the backs of their enslaved ancestors. As a result, some Black Americans choose to celebrate June teenth, a now federal holiday that highlights the emancipation of black slaves. It was a time in American history, however, where the fourth of July was a time where it was considered a black holiday and a time to celebrate black freedom following the Civil War. To understand this, we need to take

a walk back into history. On July fifth, eighteen fifty two, renowned abolitionist Frederick Douglass spoke to a mostly white crowd in Rochester, New York. Shout out to our affiliate in Rochester, New York, which is called oh WXR one hundred point nine FM. I didn't want to get that wrong anyway. In a speech, he talked about how black people were excluded from basic services, amenities, and even the Declaration of Independence and various laws in the country. Therefore, a black

person is excluded from the celebration of Independence day. Quote what to the American slave is your fourth of July? A day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim In quote, Douglas explained, adding that he felt much the same quote, I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary. This

fourth of July is yours, not mine. Quote. This would this would consolidate the feelings of both enslaved and freed black people before the Civil War, culminating in a new sentiment after the bloody conflict. When the four year war ended in eighteen sixty five, things began to look more hopeful for black people. The emancipation proclamation was signed by President Abraham Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln, newly freed slaves embraced

this new reality. Not only that, but defeated Confederates weren't in the mood to take part in July four celebrations for years. As a result, black people decided to ascribe new meaning to the Independence Day, a celebration of freedom from slave. Parades, feasts, and martial displays by black militia groups would mark these celebrations, drawing thousands together. Black people were also encouraged to contribute to their communities, such as

building schools and churches quote mutual aid. Groups like the Sons of Ham and the Daughters of Zion organized events featuring long standing Black American traditions like barbecue and late night dancing. According to Jay Store, black people would have big gatherings in various cities, from Mobile, Alabama, in Miami, Florida, to Charleston, South Carolina, and Washington, d c. They were so popular and momentous it began to grate the nerves

of disgruntled white Southerners. For decades, white Southern politician worked to quash these Black celebrations of liberty through segregation laws. And even violence. Some cities would gradually push out traditional celebration locations, while others published statements delegitimizing black people's claim

to the holiday. Quote. African American families and friends continued to meet in more informal gatherings in the city, but by the early nineteen hundreds, both Charleston and Atlanta had forbidden vendors from setting up foodstalls along the streets where black residents had long congregated on the fourth, The Atlantic wrote. Eventually, the commemoration of July fourth as a day for black

liberty mostly faded across black generations. Today, some black people celebrate the holiday as most Americans do, or they celebrate Juneteenth. Others take the holiday to reflect on America's history, have discussions, or even participate in demonstrations against racial disparities. Since Juneteenth has garnered more traction. Who knows if July fourth will go back to beating both a day for American patriotism

and Black liberty. Oh yeah, there's our way black history fact certainly something I knew nothing about.

I think it should shoot out into the atmosphere and be celebrated vigorously.

celebrating even before Juneteenth. We've been celebrating since the end of the Civil War. And we know that a lot of those Southerners early on didn't even really appreciate the Fourth of July, and US black folks did so a lot. To keep in mind there, I love your point about taking Juneteenth and running it all the way up.

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