051323 The Two Parties are Not the Same…Where is Right-Wing Accountability? (Part 2)

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that's that's definitely rare. We try to highlight, you know, black folks for that, but this one is worth it, I promise. So first and foremost, we're going to discuss ba BA becoming a better ally baba. So Today's Baba sponsored by Union Sorry Unknown Union Fashion House situated at the intersection of meaning, innovation, and culture. For more info, check out Unknown Union dot com. Got out to those guys. We love them all right. I'm just going to read

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them toward this end. And I do believe that they've organized something for the little boy that was left behind, if you feel so inclined as to help this child who now has lost his entire family. Okay, the two parties are not the same. So now we're going to talk about right wing accountability. Excuse me exactly, I'll begin. I didn't know we were making things up for the show. So the title is where is right that makes a lom So that's why we're talking about it, or it's

a right wing accountability or the lack thereof all. Right, this past week, former president, former president was found liable for sexual abuse. Okay, this means to civil suit, which I'll see it in entirely that it doesn't have as much weight as a criminal suit. The burden of proof is lower all those things, right, But again, let's talk accountability.

There's a pattern of behavior here, indeed that was started by him himself in my mind, when he was on that tour bus being recorded in his own voice, and then subsequently admitted to saying that it's okay to walk up to women, and not just his own voice. Though this is a video, so you can see him saying this.

First off, the jury has to be unanimous. That means everybody who heard what should have been both sides of the story. Donald Trump didn't himself show up. He committed to testify and decided he wasn't going to do it at the last minute, and then but he had his lawyer's present. They presented what evidence they had. A unanimous panel of jurors decided that Donald Trump was liable for

sexual abuse, not liable for rape. Okay, So when he says later on in the story, when he says, oh, it's politically motivated, it's a witch hunt, I would think that, you know, if they're going to take him down, they're going to tie a word to his name, that would probably be the one they would do. So any reasonable thinking individual would see this and say, it's not like people to split the difference if they're really politically motivated

and trying to sink somebody somebody's ship. Right. But again, that that that shred of doubt, that that little bit of deniability that's introduced into these conversations frequently, these right wing conversations, is enough to keep everybody who subscribes to that party. I don't want to say the philosophies, but that particular party. It allows them to live in a

shared delusion among other folks who subscribe. You know, the part that's even more discouraging is that some of them don't even need a delusion in the wake of that story breaking while he was campaigning, which is insane, And this happened while he was campaigning and he was still elected. That's a good point. There was a young lady on the news with her two daughters letting them know that sometimes you're just gonna get groped, like, yes, that is okay. Sometimes that just happened.

could find that video. It was just a random supporter, you know, make America great.

Everybody else is out to get him. Doesn't matter that a jury voted unanimously to h to find him liable for this and not liable for rape. That doesn't matter as long as what he says. It's almost like he's like a deity. It's like a cult, right. I think you've said that before, but I'll add to that. He plans to appeal this jury's decision, which further puts distance, put puts more distance rather between him and accountability. Right,

And that's his right. You know, that's everybody's right. If you've got a decision that you feel the trial wasn't right or whatever, you can't appeal it. I don't see how he's going to approach this and get that, but you know it is it is. You're right if you can figure out a way to do it. And he's got a team of lawyers still somehow after firing and people quitting and whatever. But I expected to definitely see that. And so the impact of this story is weakened because

he says, I don't know her. Well, first off, it's a civil suit. I've never been he says, good. Oh yeah, so it's just insane. Yeah yeah. And there's photos of them together. There's photos of them. So so anyway, so this is a person that we already know, is he There's no accountability for this person. He claimed that the election was stolen from him, right, and then really messed up the whole country further divided of extremely divided country over that one issue. Where we are in Arizona, we

had our fair grounds out here. We have a place called the Arizona Fairgrounds. It's this huge like place where everyone goes. The Arizona State Fair is a big deal for folks that don't come to Arizona. Forgive us. It's just like that here. They occupied the fairgrounds to recount the election. You guys, remember this, the election recounts, You know what I mean? Because this guy couldn't take that

l the way that he should have. We heard him trying to get up the votes and trying to you know, had court cases across the country, wasted everybody's time, wasted, millions of dollars, duped money out of his supporters, millions

from people who are very poor, no accountability. And then after every single court case resulted in a loss for his administration, everyone or the case just being thrown out, exactly, every single one in every state that he challenged in across everything, they could not substantial one claim, could not prove one claim. Oh it's a mass conspiracy. Indeed, including judges. They reappointed everyone, right, not just people that are on

the left, but people in his own party. He has a name for them, are called Rhinos Republicans in name only. It's an acronym. So no accountability for that. Let's take it a step further. Every single suit brought against him is politically motivated. It's a witch hunt. Mar A Lago documents, all that stuff in Georgia, indeed, the the Stormy Daniels stuff.

nothing to that end. So watch this, no bolder wall. And he had a Republican Senate and a Republican House, I believe at a point in his presidency and could not get that across the line. I suspect because it was an empty promise among many no accountability. Let's move it on because we can pick on that guy all day. We're not talking about where's the accountability for the former president. We're talking about right wing accountability. So let's talk about

another guy, George Santos. I know George Santos. Now you may not know who this guy is if you don't follow the news very closely, your politics very closely. But I'll give you a little bit about him. I'm gonna read from CNN the Justice Department on Wednesday unsealed federal charges against Representative George Santos and the New York republic

and the New York Republican is in custody. Okay, Santos, who's astonishing pattern of lies and fabrications stunned even hard Politicos has been charged on a thirteen count indictment, including seven counts of wirefraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of making materially false statements to the House of Representatives. You can be charged for that. So here's here's where I'm

going with this. I know that you know, if you're listening to us, you may not know who this is. Maybe you don't know this story, but belong. The short of it is, this guy basically lied his way into

the House of Representatives. He lied about where he went to school, He lied about everything, who his parents were, how he got his money, what connections he everything of this stuff, you know what I'm saying, that he could use to embellish and then, after being pressured four months after the election, admitted that he made some embellishments and that he was sorry, but he really intended to serve

the people of where's this place Staten Island in New York? Right, He made some embellishments on his resume, and he tried to like downplay. Sure. Now, the House of Representatives has

a Republican the way there's a long Island. So the House of Representatives has a Republican majority, okay, And this Republican majority has the capacity to hold this man accountable, to expel him from the House, to maintain some semblance of integrity among their ranks, and to ensure that the people who put their trust in them know that that trust is well placed. Have the House of Representatives done anything whatsoever to move to make this right? I would

say no. And what they have done real quickly. What they have done is they've removed him from like a committee assignment or something like that. Why because he was a distraction. My question she's still a sitting member, though. My question question to you is why would they There's no accountability, there's no consequences if they don't.

in there and do Republican bidding. He's our guy. It does not matter that Rafael Warnock is a minister, that he's actually you know, none of that stuff matters. Preaches that I think it was doctor King's church, doctor Martin Luther King's church, all this stuff out the window, Warnock, is it okay? So this is the party of you know, God and Christian values and so forth, and you're not going to vote for the minister in labor.

Nazi shooter. So rather than accept that this one is on us, indeed, many of these mass shootings, the majority of these mass shootings is on us instead of instead of some right, instead of some accountability. What have we done that has birthed this? What has what connections is this person making to what it is I believe should be our principles and values instead of doing some soul searching and figuring out what the what is, what we end up with is what I believe to be more

toward the opposite. So, first off, this guy posted on Russian message boards, where you know, it's not moderated for hatred and racism, that sort of stuff. But people are trying to cast out because they're like, this dude doesn't even speak Russian, why is he posting on Russian message boards without you know, trying to find the real truth of the matter. The fact is that their English forum or English pages on this Russian Russian website or whatever.

English is the international language. So if you speak Russian and the other person speaks Spanish, more than likely you'll communicate in English because it's the English. It's the language most folks know, so most foreign websites have a place to interface with other English speakers, like this I found. And indeed the Russian message board that this guy was

on does have that. But if they on the right, if the reporters and pundits and folks say, well, how was he on a Russian message boards if he's a Mexican and he doesn't speak Russian, again, to cast doubt rather than accept some sort of accountability or trying to do some soul searching. Like I mentioned, now, this guy also has the same name. This mass shooter has the same name as a known drug cartel gang member, and folks are trying to say that he was a drug

a cartel gang member rather than a far right Nazi shooter. Right, again, trying to cast out just has the same name as the guy. You know, a lot of times people have the same names, and again the idea is to cast doubt on this person's Nazi ties. So Elon Musk even weighed in on this like, well, I don't know, I'm just asking questions this type of post, right, And this is why Q and I don't have Twitter anymore. We deactivated our Twitter. We are not going to be party

to that guy. That guy there. Yeah, and I implore you, if you're a listener, I know there's information shared there, but I don't know that the good outweighs the bad. There, we invite you to come over to our side, delete it, join fan base. Let's roll, all right, I want to say real quick, the BBC confirmed independently that this shooter was behind his post on Facebook, even though folks tried to cast out on the authenticity of his Facebook account as well. And of course this list goes on beyond

these three. Clarence Thomas, you know that list is very long. So where's right being a right wing accountability knows. But for now it's time for the Way Black History Fact. Today's Way Black History Fact is sponsored by Underground Beach Club From the beach, from the streets to the beach, the finest in Beachware. Visit Underground Beach Clubs dot com. All right, today we are talking about the man John Brown. He was born May ninth, eighteen hundred and he lived

until December second, eighteen fifty nine. He was an American abolitionist leader. This is from Wikipedia. By the way, he first reached national prominence for his radical abolitionism and fighting in Bleeding Kansas was eventually captured and executed for a failed incitement of a slave rebellion at Harper's Ferry preceding the American Civil War. An evangelical Christian of strong religious convictions, Brown was profoundly influenced by the Puritan faith of his upbringing.

He believed that he was an instrument of God, raised up to strike the death blow to American slavery, a sacred obligation. Brown was the leading exponent of violence in the American abolitionist movement, believing it was necessary to end American slavery after decades of peaceful effort had failed. I want to remind you one more time, this dude is white.

Brown said repeatedly that in working to free the enslaved, he was following Christian ethics, including the Golden Rule, as well as the U s Declaration of Independence, which states that all men were created equal. He stated repeatedly that in his view, the two principles meant the same thing. Brown first gained national attention when he led anti slavery volunteers and his own sons during the Bleeding Kansas Crisis

of the late eighteen fifties. A state level civil war over whether Kansas would enter the Union as a slave state or a free state. He was dissatisfied with the abolitionist pacifism, saying of the pacifist pacifists sorry quote, these men are all taught. What we need is action, action unquote. In May eighteen fifty six, Brown and his sons killed five supporters of slavery in the Pottowatomi Massacre, a response

to the sacking of Lawrence by pro slavery forces. Brown then commanded anti slavery forces at the Battle of Blackjack and the Battle of Ohsowatomi. I want to make sure that you know that these were battles. It wasn't just like sneaking in people's houses and murdering people. You come with your weapons, I come with my weapons, and I win. That's a battle. We went to war. We both know

what it was. Right. In October eighteen fifty nine, Brown led a raid on the Federal armory at Harper's Ferry, Virginia today West Virginia, intending to start a slave liberation movement that would spread south. He had prepared a provisional constitution for the revised slavery free United States that he hoped to bring about he sees the armory, but seven people were killed and ten more were injured. Brown intended to arm slaves with weapons from the armory, but only

a few slaves joined his revolt. Those of Brown's men who had not fled were killed or captured by local militia and US marines, the latter led by Robert E. Lee. Brown was tried for treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia, the murder of five men, and inciting a slave insurrection. He was found guilty of all charges and was hanged on December second, eighteen fifty nine, the first person executed for treason in the history of the United States. That feels, man,

I don't man. If heaven exists and I go there, I better see this guy. The Harper's Ferry raid and Brown's trial, both covered extensively in national newspapers, escalated tensions that led a year later to the South's long threatening secession in the American Civil War. Southerners feared that others would soon follow in Brown's footsteps, encouraging an arming slave rebellions. He was a hero and an icon in the North. Union soldiers marched to the new song John Brown's body

that portrayed him as a heroic martyr. Brown has been variously described as a heroic martyr and visionary, and as a madman and a terrorist. Brown was well read and knew that the last words of a prominent person would be valued. On the morning of December second, eighteen fifty nine, Brown wrote and gave to his jailor ABIs the words

he wanted to be remembered by. I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood I had, as I now think vainly flattered myself that without very

much bloodshed, it might be done. Now you may wonder why we decided to honor John Brown with our way Black history fact, and it's because of a post that Q sent over to me from Sean King, a person on social media who's very involved with politics but also with furthering a decidedly black agenda in this country, forward equality and equity. Shaan King wrote, excuse me, Happy birthday to John Brown again. He was born on May nine,

so at the time it was his birthday. Happy birthday to John Brown, the best white man America has ever produced, He says, I always laughed when our dear brother Malcolm X said John Brown was his favorite white man in

American history. But he was right a full two hundred and twenty three years ago, in the year eighteen hundred, John Brown was born, and in the two hundred and twenty three years since, I don't think that a single white man in all of American history has had his courage and tenacity at confronting the sins of slavery and racial injustice in this place. A whole lot of people

talk it, he lived it. Now. I want to make sure that I say this, This in no way diminishes the value of allies, certainly not white men allies, because that's relatively speaking, a rarity in the space of those of us who really see each other as brothers and sisters and want to push toward a more equitable America.

But you have to bear in mind that no matter which ally you're looking at now, you cannot hold them to the same standard as a John Brown, who lived in a country where slavery was the law and fought actively against that, and we're speaking against it was treason, yeah, exactly, punishable by death, which he suffered. So until such a time as we as a country are have devolved back to that point and a person gives their life for

that cause. We're a little further along with slavery man, We're not as far along as we pretend to be. That's fair, I'll that's fair, But I mean in terms of in terms of folks who might think that this is a condemnation of white male allies, it is not. It's just celebration of this man in the time that he lived, giving his life for a cause that he didn't need to. We know that, and so we don't want people to compare him to anybody else who is

a white male. Ally, we love everybody. We think you're doing great, but obviously he comes from a different time where he can be celebrated in this way. So well, that said, that's about it for us here on Civic Cipher. So thank you for listening. Once again. I'm your host, Ramsy's job jah, I am q Ward and yeah, do us a favor. At the website Civic Cipher dot com download this and any previous episodes. You can also submit any questions any topics that you want us to cover.

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