Raven Drum Foundation

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she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. I welcome to Cindy Stumpo tough his nails on WBS News Radio ten thirty and I'm here tonight with obviously my new brunette daughter, Samantha new brunette, new daughter now will give my new brunette daughter. And our topic tonight is Raven Drum Foundation. That I have that right? Yes? Okay? Good? And I guess star Rick Allen, Laura Monroe and Rick what do you do? Just in case people don't know who Rick Allen is, I played

drums with Deaf Leopard and hold on, let's play that down. We just played drums with def Leppard, right, there's like no big deal, there was no video. Well, I've been doing it for so long, you know, it's kind of second nature at this point. I mean, it's massive, massive blessing, as you can imagine. But some of the things that I do outside of that are really I'm really passionate about, and Raven Drum Foundation is one of them. Okay, so let's talk about that.

Why did a rock and roller from def Leppard back in the years you guys started? The band started in seventy seven, and I joined them round about my fifteenth birthday in nineteen seventy eight. So seventy eight, you're fifteen. I'm thirteen. So I just figured out your age and you just figured out my I'm fifty. What am I You're going to be sixty? Sam? Stop, don't go there gonna say age. You're not missing anything. I'm not missing thing. It's not that big deal. If I have to age,

you have to age? Yeah, I guess can you age? And I stopped. So basically, a fifteen year old boy is playing in a rock band that's already made it out there? Or were you still making it out there? No, that was early days of def Leppard. You know, we were still playing smaller, smaller shows, you know, small venues, clubs, and then we kind of we got a break in about nineteen seventy nine. We opened up for let's see, we opened up for Sammy

Hagar and then we ended up opening up for Sammy Hay. Wasn't he did he come later? He can't? It was No, Sammy's Samy. Sammy's been around for a long time. He was he was with a band called Montreal. And then yeah, this this was this was this was early day. So really Sammy gave us one of our first breaks. And then we opened for ac DC. I remember having my sixteenth birthday at the Hammersmith Odeon with ac DC. Now at that point, you're getting star struck. Now,

yeah, I was totally start. How many kids can say they've you know, they've played on the same stage as ac DC at that age, you know, so I just felt I felt really blessed. Yeah, so things have just gone up and out and def Leppert took off in what year?

When did they really get home? Probably probably? You know, our first record, our first LP was in man LP L days mean nineteen eighty No, kids don't even know what LP means, but it's okay, No, And then and then really I think I think our big break was nineteen eighty three with a record called Pyromania. Correct, Yeah, Pyromania. And then right after that what then? And we did a record called Hysteria That was a nineteen eighty seven big break between Pyromania and Hysteria. But that really

blew the doors off. That was that was a massive success for the band. And as you're hearing this music play in the radio, love Bites is my favorite, by the way. Yeah, it's beautiful song. I mean, I it still excites me. Of course. You know, you hear something that you were involved with, you know, you hear a song and yeah, I feel really good about it. And then you realize that, you know, tons of other people are hearing it as well. So that's

that's a gift. And you guys are still you still run tours. I see you've got a tour coming up, right, Yeah, we're going to be a Fenway. When was it fifth of August? Yeah? Fifth of August? Fifth? Yeah, they don't have a roof on that place, you know. No, no, we don't know. The Red Sox does not have a roof over that place. So you guys are still toring. Is everybody still in the band that started as of in the eighties still there?

Or three of us? The new guys been with us maybe? And Campbell he's been with us for what twenty five years and he's the new guy. Yeah, we've been together for a long time. All right, So now tell me now that people understand who you are, where you come from, they're listening. What makes this foundation, Raven Drum Foundation important to you and your lovely wife by the way, well, right, like, can

we introduce her? Do we even introduce her? I'm so sorry we didn't do we ladies, gentlemen, loaden and gentlemen, go ahead introduce yourself. What are you doing besides being his wife. You have your own business on the side. Go ahead, we're gonna hit on you for a minute. I'm Laura Monroe. I'm the co founder Raven Drum Foundation with my husband,

and I'm been a teacher of energy medicine for over twenty five years. And energy medicine is what is energy medicine sounds like it's something I need say,

I think you do well. That's an umbrella term for a lot of different momentsties you probably know of, like acupuncture and reiki, breath work, mindfulness as an element of energy medicine, anything that's not considered allopathic Western medicine that has ancient roots and also new roots because there are a lot of things in neuroscience that are becoming very very popular and very evidence based around how we can use our mind to heal. And I've been teaching this for quite a long

time and that's what we bring to the foundation along with drumming. Okay, I'm here for that. And then you also playing your own band I do. I'm a singer songwriter and I tour and you too. You guys must live a pretty exciting life. We're busy, busy. We're really good thing busy keeps you young. Yeah. And one of the reasons for Raven Drum Foundation, or the reason I'm so passionate about it, is if it wasn't

for first responders, I probably wouldn't be here. So I think that's why I want to get into why Raven Drum Foundation is so important to you. And I think we should take this from the beginning. So go ahead. I'm gonna let Lauren explain. Okay, laurens off, this is what this is what every wife does. Okay, go ahead, we speak for them. Okay, I don't want to take the training wheels off yet. All

right, We're good. You go ahead, Loine. Well, in two thousand and one, right after Rick and I met, we realized that we both bringing our gifts together and our knowledge of trauma. His you know, I'm not sure if you mentioned it in this interview, but everybody who knows him well knows he lost his arm in a car accident when he was twenty one years old. That was at the height of his career. So he

has a history of trauma and my background is healing trauma. And so when we came together, we realized that not only drumming, because I'm a drummer, I'm percussionist myself. That when we started drumming together and I started giving him some guidance in how to use his breath, how to ground himself, what to do with when he's feeling anxious on stage, all these little tools he would be using on stage, and then we would be practicing together.

We thought, you know what, other people can really use this information and we can help people. So we started this foundation. Our first populations of

people were in the public school system, special needs. We went into a juvenile detention center, work with gang kids, safe houses, cancer care centers, and then Rick took a trip to well to Read Medical Center in Washington, d C. And that was in two thousand and six, and he was deeply moved by some of the veterans there, the military there that have lost limbs and immediately created a bond with them, and we decided that's our

mission. Now, we need to really focus on veterans. And now we're moving into first responders who are very underserved and a lot of them have deep trauma from their work. Thank you for that. That was very concise. That was perfect. Okay, that was an awesome elevator page Okay, So I like this all right, So I get it. I like this foundation to stand. We're going to go off to break, and I want to just ask you this question. When we come back from break, can you

tell the audience how you lost your arm? Are we going to go there? You don't want to go there with you? Tell me? I can? I can go in a in a brief way. You want me to tell you now or after we're going to go to break. How's that cool? Okay? You're listening to Cidey Stumpo and we'll be right back. It's the WBC News Radio Tenther sponsored by Flooren Decor, National Lumber, and Village

Bang and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty. And I'm Sidney Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha and Lauren, Lauren, Lauren and Ray Allen. Okay remember their names? Yeah, you're sure? Okay, moving along fast? Okay, seriously, you might forget well, I'm always forgetting my own name. No, I remember my name, I just can't remember like little like what's that for? Breakfast? My mother? Your cousins before your name? So you mentioned before the break about how I lost my

arm. Let's go, it was a shark attack. A shark had me on that one, Okay, that's what I tell the kids. Or a shaving accident, a shavy accident, you took your arm off, Yeah,

and that that normally breaks the ice with the kids. But the reality was it was a terrible car accident and I I was driving a left hand drive car in England and I put my foot down to pass this car that wouldn't let me pass miles and then I lost control of the car, rolled the car and as I rolled the car, the seat belt that I was wearing came undone came across my chest and that took my arm. And as the car was rolling, I actually left through the south roof and I guess I

bang my head really bad in the in the in that particular accent. So I long story short, I did a lot of damage to myself and through the help of you know, the the health system in England, they took care of my physical wounds. You know, obviously I ended up losing my arm, which is devastating for a drama, but there were a lot of invisible wounds that I didn't necessarily take care of the time. So I always say I'm a I'm a work in progress, and I'm still working in progress.

Let's call there dramas. Use two arps for everything, right, most of them. Okay, you're righting, yeah, left arm right? Yeah I was. I was very right handed, you know, right for kicking a soccer ball around. That's called that football over there. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, So in that respect, guys are weird football. You throw the sockey kick with your foot, but it's okay, you guys can call it football. But here's my question to you, what made you decide?

I'm sure after all this, you're in your own depression, You're in your own world. What made you go back behind those drums and say I can do this with the band members? There were they there to help you or they there to lift you up? Was it family? Was it yourself? How did you get behind those drums again with one arm? My brother was very instrumental. He stayed with me for the whole month. It doesn't sound like very long, but he stayed with me in the hospital, and

he lifted me up. He brought all the music in that inspired me growing up, and I started tapping out rhythms with my feet, which really helped me to realize that I could express myself in a new way. My family, they were really supportive at twenty one years old. Now, remember that you're a kid, I know, I know. Yeah, I had to do quite a bit of growing up in a very short short amount of time. I could never have envisioned, you know, something this terrible was going

to happen. But there were a few people. Matt Lang was a producer at the time. He was very supportive, and he started talking about things that I could do, whereas I was dwelling on the things that I couldn't do, and that sort of plant a seed and then I really discovered the

power of the human spirit and how I could move forward. And I think an AHA moment for me was when I stopped comparing myself to how I used to be, and stop comparing my you know, how I used to play, and stop comparing myself the guy you were prior to losing it up.

Yeah, I think we all do that in our wrong way. Like I still compare myself to be in twenty five when I'm not twenty five anymore, right, So, like you know, it's like, remember, remember like remember these and remember so you had to do a whole I hate this word. Everybody knows this word, but you did a complete mindset. I use the words you did a complete, a complete brain reset. But the world the new word is mindset. So I'll go with it. I suppose.

I suppose in many ways yes, And I'm still doing that to this day. You know, there's always something new, and it's been it's been good and bad along the way. But meets the first time you get back on stage one arm, not in your home, not playing around yourself, not playing with family, You're on that stage, people looking at you, and you have one arm. Did you feel like you crushed it that night?

I did. I was very conservative. I kept I kept thinking simple, and as a bit of a safety net, I actually took out another drama with me, a guy called Jeff Rich who I'm really grateful that he was there with me. So they brought back up just in case, what in

case you was in case went wrong. You know, electronic drums in those days, because I remember I'm using my feet on these electronic foot pedals, and you know, it was it was different, and it was it was a newer sort of technology, you know, being able to play electronic drums as opposed to acoustic drums. So it was nice to have somebody next to me that was playing an acoustic drum kit in case something went wrong. And

this was a small tour. We did a warm up tour for a bigger show that we were going to be playing in you know, in about a week or so. That ended up we ended up actually playing a venue called Donnington in England, and that was this giant festival. So we did a few warm up shows and remember the first night was great, you know, myself and Jeff, we'd rehearsed really well, We practiced these songs really really

well together. And then the second night I ended up playing part of the show on my own and then he would come and join me on stage. And then the third night he'd gone home because we had a day off in between, and he missed this flight on the way back. The flight was Cancler. Yeah, security blanket's gone. Now, yeah, my security blanket's gone. So I ended up playing most of the show on my own, and then when he came and sat down next to me because he finally got

a fly. The rest of the guys in the band said well, we didn't really notice any different, so I was like, well that was good, you know. And then we ended up playing this show in Waterford and it was more like it. It was more like a bar, very small, very small stage, and one of the crew called me and said, well, the place isn't big enough to get two dram kits on the stage. Do you want to have a playing on your own? And I said,

yeah, I'd love to. So I played the show that night on my own and after the show, Jeff Rich came up to me and it was beautiful the way he did it. He just said, I guess I'm going home tomorrow and that's it, and that was it. That was the beginning of me doing this on my own and having the confidence to drive a band, you know, like like def Leopard. You know, it's crazy because you look at this generation. They don't know music, Like they listen

to whatever they're spinning. I can hear it next door, right, they're spinning. But to me, going to watch a band back in the day, or even MTV VH one back in the day when they just played videos after videos, right, I always thought the drummer was the sexy guy, right, that's as a young girl. That's why I saw not the bass play, not the guitar. So you married the sexy drummer, right, So that was just my take, the drummer like he made the band.

I don't know why. You know, all my favorite bands today it's always the drummer, right. Is that it's just that me? Or is that a lot of people that watch bands back in the day. I think everyone has their own favorite personal connections. What do you like to watch when you're watching? I watch everyone I do. I watch when I watch him, I watch him the most because I know when that starts slipping those you know, but fine, and then they're they're doing there what's that called? Oh,

stick twirling? You know what I think it is? Down left right? You know what I think is I think there's something primal about drumming. It's probably the most ancient form there is in any band. You know, drumming has been around in every culture most thousands of years. I thought we're

going to break up the city stumbling Nails. I'm w BZ news Radio ten three, will be Right Bad sponsored by Pellow, Windows of Boston, Next Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet and welcome acted Toughest Nails on Wvzena's Radio ten thirty. And I'm here with the beautiful Samantha and the beautiful Lauren and the unbelievable, amazing, handsome what's my name again? Rick Allen? I'm used to

doing this for her all the time? What's my name again? No, you said pick it up where we left off, and I forgot what I was saying. Oh, that's normal. It happens to me all the time. I think it was the bang on the head that did it. We can use that as an excuse, all right, he says, menopause. No, he would be low test Australia. I would be metopause. Okay, So does the remember what we were just talking about. No, So

that's it. We're going to clear that road. Okay. You were talking about how the second the second guy said to him, I guess I'm going home now respectfully said it to him nicely that he could do it on his own now. And then we started talking about why everybody thinks, well not everybody, why some people think the Dramma is the most sexy guy in the band, and then I started and then I started talking about well because it's the most ancient form. You know, you said it was crimal. It

happens back to you know, dancing around in loin cloths or less. You know, so I don't remember those days. I just say the drama is a sexy guy out there. I don't know why. It's the alms, it's the whole thing. The drumstake's going everywhere. Okay, can you both of you sure a memoral experience from your charity work that deeply impacted both of you together, not as one. There are so many I think most recently last year and this year. This happened at two different events, and you

couldn't plan this, So this wasn't something that we created per se. But we work with various people that go through trauma. On On two different occasions, we had people that have lost children come and we had this one incident.

We had eight people come to this event that lost children, and one of these people recognized a first responder there that was the one that came to the scene, uh and found her daughter in a car accident and was the one that lifted her out of the car, and she was what she she came to her daughter. She came to the drum circle for healing, this drum event for healing, and so did this first responder. They did not know each other, but then they realized that they were together at the scene

of her daughter's death at the accident. He was one of the first responders that came and she recognized him, and there was this moment really deep healing where the two of them, you know, remembered this event and reconnected and we have This happened quite a bit because we mix our events with first responders, veterans, people in crisis, and there's such a synergy with a lot of them, and this one was something we couldn't plan uh, And that

happened quite a few times, just recently, where it was just created by something bigger than us. But what happens during during these events and during these circles that people begin to experience their trauma in a more intimate way. Because most of the time we're managing trauma, we're managing our thoughts were either in

the past or in the future. Being in the moment is too painful, and so when we bring people together with the rhythms and with the cues and how to breathe and how to be with our pain together as a group, the walls start coming down. We're able to access We're able to see each other in ways that we don't normally see strangers in a room, and we

all become this have this family connection. And I know that's not a specific uh uh incident that I'm speaking about, but every single event uh is very profound for people, and all we're doing is guiding them to a place to feel their pain in a way that's safe and musical. I have a question, does everybody walk around with trauma or is it just a generation that we

just tell everybody our trauma now? Because God knows, our grandparents and our parents didn't talk about trauma, right, they did not talk about it. But you know, if you ask the veterans from the I call them the secret generation. By the way, an ancestry is bringing everything out now. People have had kids that they didn't had kids, thought their mothers were their fathers and their father So that secret generation, all the secrets are coming out

now. Well we have this something called generational trauma too. What is okay? So look it. I know it's kind of funny and I'll use me as an excuse. Since twenty six years old, I've had crippling panic disorder. Right, I don't know when my trauma is, like I've went, I've talked like literally, I can't find the trauma that gives me these panic attacks. Right. So, after at twenty six years old they first hit up, I literally said to doctor, could these be genetic? Nope,

Cindy, panic attacks or trauma? Could they be hormonal? No? No, no no. Twenty years later, after twenty years of dealing with them, we find out they are genetic and they could be hormonal. Right. But twenty years that I walked around them, I can't find anything in my life that should cause me from thinking I'm dying at the moment, right. So, and I don't really see where I have had trauma, but it be around me has had trauma. So I'm trying to figure out where's my

trauma right Right. That is such a brilliant thing to bring up because it's not about the story of the trauma, because the trauma is in the body. And I work with a really beautiful man, a scientist. His name is doctor Bruce Slipton, and he wrote the book The Biology of Belief and in our cellular memory, we hold trauma and and we can you know, we can be perceiving trauma as ours and have panic attacks and have these moments

where we're built out of control and don't remember what caused it. That's it's a normal thing, just being you know, trauma can happen in the womb even before you end. Okay, it is true that trauma can carry on from generations and be passed down one hundred really ancestral baggage is what I call it. Anyway, So I could be carried my great great great great grandmother's boy. Yeah, And I think that's the beautiful thing about learning how to

be with your body and being able to it doesn't matter. The story of the trauma doesn't matter because it's a story. What happened to your body is the thing that you want to connect with and clear and learn how to regulate your nervous system and be aware. You know, when that panic attack, when that's diet. You can't reason with me for twenty minutes, right, that's it. I'm dying, but I've been dying since twenty six. Eventually I want to die, right, Eventually it's going to happen. That's really

going to die. But no, they're very they're very scary, and I keep looking for the trauma. But like you're saying, it could be my mother's trauma or my grandmother's trauma. Mom, you say all the time that you're very empathic, so maybe you're feeling everybody else's trauma that very umpthing too.

Yes, I think you know empathic sensitive people. I think the most important thing is to learn what is someone else's energy and emotions and what your own is, because then it becomes this mixed bag of energy and emotions and you don't know who's who's. And I think that's so important. I've noticed people born under certain signs, like I'm a cancer one on that cancer sign. It seems like we have the most empathetic and EmPATH people ever. Like

you tell me something, I feel it. If I watch a video somebody getting beat up in the video which all these crazy videos, my algorithm has changed on my Twitter, so it's one bad video of and I get like I can feel it. It's a horrible, it's a curse in the blessing. But to go back, my question too, is when you're dealing with

all this and this foundation, how do you leave it behind you? And go home and have a normal life with your husband and you with your wife, Like, how do you not take this type of work home with you? I learned at an early age how to protect myself and everything we do and what we create comes from really being very very conscious and learning where to put our mind and our intention and being very familiar with our own heart.

And you have to set boundaries psychically and with your mind to be able to hold the space. And also for me, it's believing in a higher power, like everything that happened in someone else's life and I'm a witness to that moment when they're sharing their pain. I'm not saving them. There's a higher power that's guiding them. And in that moment, I hold the space and someone has a moment of healing, and I know that that will continue for

them. And I learned the hard way. I was I'm an empathic healer similar to you, but I'm also a physical impath. So I started working with cancer care patients, patients in the oncology ward. Back when I first started doing this work, I would start experiencing the side effects of chemo when I went home, and it wasn't me. I wasn't getting the I'm a

Virgo, but I'm a Scorpio moon. And there's a lot about astrology that I would break down because it's not just about your son's sign but h so, and it's about how your brain is wired too, and and and my brain was wired to feel everybody all the time. And so if someone was having a panic attack, I would feel it, uh and physically I would start feeling it. And so I learned very quickly that you have to create these these these boundaries. Yeah. And if I don't, I don't know

that word. By the way, it's essential because if you don't, your life will You'll suffer more, especially when you're trying to help people. Well that thought, I'm sinny standpoint. Listen to Toughest Nails on w BS Oh my God, she's a w BZ News Radio ten thirty, will be right back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston, would Smaller Insurance World, Auto Body and Tosca drive Auto Body Loud with Me and Welcome to the

City. Stumpo Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty and I'm we're actually laughing every time we go to break the best questions are asked it's always the best questions when we go to break Samantha, Yes, can you introduce every morning? Rick? Okay, perfect, because some people come in halfway through, right, So I just ad laurens and virgos. So I said to Rick, when's the last time you want to fight on an argument? And would you say Rick every day? And I said, no, I think

I win the fight, but in reality, I I I don't. Rco always wins. Yeah, I know, you know they say the way you being a water sign and her being earthed, she probably levels you out a lot. She does well, I'm an Italian virgo. She has five votes. I know, well, well, I win, but he thinks he does and that makes it all good. No, she makes me think I win. Yeah, she makes you think that's it. But the thinkin what's your rising scorpio, oh rising capricorn, it doesn't matter. The Virgo's loyal

and that's all that matters. And the virgo's got a big hot too. I know. I got a virgo as a son and I got there's daughter. So tell me about what is coming? What what do you see for this mission that you're on? Like where we go in here with this mission what's going to finally make you guys feel like you've you've hit the home run, Like, okay, we've we've made this successful. We feel good because see you start talking trauma. Now we can start talking about other trauma.

Like we got kids. I don't know if you're following in every eleven minutes somebody's diameter of a fatanyl overdose right between the age of I think eleven twelve to twenty eight, right, you were in the scene of you know, rock and roll sex, rock and roll drugs. That was the error of the eighties. You know, we didn't really have people dying of snow and coke back in nineteen you know, eighty two. It just kind of was unheard of. And now we get kids dying every eleven minutes, right,

and I've been following that. That's more trauma coming like wee do you guys stop? Weir? Do you cross the boundaries? Like we can't take everybody into our foundation because now you get parents that are losing children to one pill right that they might buy at school an adderall or when you look around what's

going on in our country? I don't know. For some reason, on my Twitter, my algorithm I've trained it in three days to watch all the most terrific videos, right kids beating each other up to death, putting them in seizes, putting them in combers, dying parents trying to figure out how to lose my kids, setting my kids school. So there's so much. This world's got so much, even crazy. It's just not the veterans, everything you've been paying attention to. It's the reality of what's coming down the

road to us. Absolutely, and I think I'm gonna just just absolutely because the goal is collaboration and bringing in people. We have a platform, and I think we can't heal every single person it just the two of us and and take care of them and educate them. But as a team, we

can't like people like you talking about this issue. We have a group we started a couple of years ago called twelve Drummers Drumming as part of our organization, and it's a list of legendary drummers who come forward and that we do auctions. Right now, we have an auctions Rocksteady do give smart dot Com and they sign memorabilia and they also speak out around the problems that we have

around trauma and general that come to events. We have folks like Joey Kramer for em Rassman, and there's Joey and Wally Ingram from Sheryl Crow and Todd Trushaman from Styx, and the list goes on, and they're all showing up because they understand trauma and and they're speaking about it as well. I think we need to be champions of healing. There's a lot of people that have been through a lot of things and they're overcome it, and we have to

share how we did it. Not only not only musicians, but also now we're collaborating with teachers, teachers that are our consciousness teachers and scientists to teach of what's going on in our brain when we have a we have a disconnect, a serious disconnect in our In our younger generation, you think, yeah, well, the thing is, they don't they not even know what it's head and mind disconnect and mind disconnect. We're in a crazy world right now,

so we have to emulate what is healed ourselves. The way to help another person is to heal yourself and teach someone how you did it. And that's why they see heal people, heal people and hurt people. Hurt people one percent. It starts from us. It starts from us, and once we heal us, we work with our own families, we work with our community, and then it's a ripple effect and then we come on and shows like this and we talk to you, and then the people that are listening

can go, how can I change things? Can I? How can I change things in my family? How can I change things for myself? But here in lies the problem that I see is that Rick, if you could talk to Rick at fifteen or how old you were and you got on the accident twenty one, twenty, if Rick today could talk to a twenty one year old Rick, he would give him good advice. But twenty one year old talking to twenty one year old Rick, you thought what you're twenty one?

Like, life has no meaning. I'm just gonna go and enjoy my life like we can't get If we could get younger people to think a little bit more maturely and look at life like, what would you say to yourself today at twenty one and twenty one? Yeah, I'm gonna get a roll this car. I'm gonna do what I want to do. And it's a cocky attitude that we all have at that age, and some of the more punky than others. I know I was kind of punky. I didn't take

any from nobody, right, that was nothing happened. If I wasn't so full of myself, I may be sitting here with two arms. But there again, if I was, if I had two arms, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation to start with. So in many ways, you know, people have said, well, you know, what would you do differently?

And the first time you Rick talking to twenty one year Rick, Yeah, well, just having a five minute if you go back five minutes in time that day, what would you say, Just have the patients and stay behind the car. I think I think that, Yeah, you know, the tendency to be hot headed or you know, to to have a short fuse. You know, if if somebody was in my way, if there was a car are in my way that wouldn't let me pass, then the

lesson would have been patience. Isn't it funny? You know you're in a hurry and you're always sitting behind the slowest driver on the pope, always on my way here tonight, yes, yeah, so, and the idiot doesn't want to move. But it's that you go like, well, maybe I'm sitting behind this car or this truck or this railway crossing. I'm sitting here for a reason. Maybe just that little bit of time difference is going to save me from something far worse. But we don't think that way. We

don't think. So when you're doing what you do, can you get into kids' heads? Like, can you get into these kids that thought the way? He thought the way look at everybody in this room at twenty one, two, twenty five, twenty eight, at a younger age, like life is precious. We don't know life is. I knew life was precious when I had gave birth to Samantha. That was a game changer for me. Right, you hold this baby and you go, oh my god, my holy, oh my god. My whole life changed. So if we can

get into young kids' heads, that's what I try to do. That's where I donate my time trying to talk to these kids. Teach them the skill gap, teach them the trades. Get into the trades. Not every kid's made for college. Calm down the cockiness, calm down that behavior. Life is precious. I just want my son all the time, right, He thinks life's been whatever. You I'll just go out and be a thirteen year

old daughter. You understand that mindset, and I think you're doing everything you say is the most essential is to give them a voice, let them know they're significant, that there, that their their opinions matter, and teach them how to listen to their intuition and be able to vocalize it and validate them and teach them. They think a little weird this generation. They're very weird. I see, I'm very little bit acial. I see a very food,

superficial mindset. And because of social media, I think, and you know, even if you come from the most holistic home with a lot of integrity, uh, they're still exposed to that mindset as being better and you know, more innovative and cool and and that's okay, that's how they're going to think. But in the end, your roots kind of will steer you at some point in your life because you have to make a decision on what

kind of person you want to be. Can we just bring back some old school values, some old some of the I did that with my kids. I did, and having them around the grandparents and having that's been important to me. Right, they seem pretty normal. Yeah, she seems pretty normal. She's my cuckoo eries right, and then I get a cuckoo she. You know, it's one thing to love your children, but when you can honestly say I like you, I like her like I love my children,

but I like her. There are days I don't like her, but I always love her, right, But there's more days I like her, and then I get the virgo. I love him, and then there are days I don't like him, And you don't you want to like your child. Once you like your children, you know you're going down to good path. Although I thought we're going to break. I'm Sidy Stump when you listened to w BZ News Radio ten thirty and we'll be right back and welcome back to

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