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the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and welcome to Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and again, I'm winning the studio with come on, Angelina, you learn here Angelina, Chad Stump and and I am Jesse monockelm And who's Jesse? Well, first of all, thanks for having me. I am the executive we want to have you. I'm the executive director and CEO of Mass Golf, the State Golf Association. Okay. And for people that don't cough with the people up at
they don't cough anymore, we're trying to get them in the family. Get We'll bring them in. I don't know, bet, I was a golf widow mcolf mother. I've been at golf. I don't even I don't like golf. Okay, I've been the one making a living so big else can go golf. Okay, but tell me, Jesse, tell me what's going on out there? You how'd you take get into this position? Give me the background, and how do you end up here? Sure? Yeah, Well I grew up playing. My father introduced me to the game. I
was probably about four or five years old. Common story, right, I mean that happens, played a little bit competitively through high school and then in college was like anyone else, what am I going to do with my life? Pursued sports management and always knew there was some sports administration interest, knew there was an affinity for golf, and cold called a few organizations, the Mask Golf Association being one, and they brought me on as an intern my
first summer in school and since then I stuck around for three summers. They hired me when I graduated from school. So you started with them in college. I did, I did, and I haven't left. So and that's how many years later? This is? This is year eighteen all in, so it took you eighteen years to become president. Well, I've been in this world now eleven. So I ran our championships for about six years and so three years is an intern, about six years running events and now year
eleven as executive director. And Chow, when did you meet Chessie? How did you know Chesseay? On day one? He's noised since I was a little kid running around out there, what thirteen twelve years old, competing absolutely one event to the next, and you watch all these kids chasing the dream. Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting because we serve all levels of play, right, so you might have juniors that are looking to pursue,
you know, a competitive career in the game. But on the other end of it, you might have a mid am who just enjoys the game. They work for a living, but they have that competitive juice. Maybe they played in high school, they played in college, and they still keep that fire going where they can compete, you know, as a twenty five year old or even as a senior amateur a fifty five and up. We offer those events for everybody, and I think that was what your father wanted to
do. And don't remember it was called the Senior Tour. Yeah, you want to try out back. It is a forty fifty senior tour. So the Mascolf Association does all these type of tournaments. Yeah, it's one component of our services. We're an organization of member clubs. So the clubs in Massachusetts are a member of our organization. We service them whether it's through handicapping, course raiding. But then on the golfer side, one of our major
show cases is really our championships and our tournaments. So who who heads up like us AM is that you guys. So the USGA is the national governing body. We're a partner of the us GA. We're kind of their local affiliate if you will, and we conduct their local qualifying. So we'll host the USAM qualifier in Massachusetts, okay, and then also do the u S Open call. That's been Chad. Your only turn is that you always come in like, oh, I've had the USAM. I've had so many bad
stories on my home course, Blue Hill. It's mah, what's that kid? Something? Broom, Matt broom. We're going to playoff because I just go I went wild on the final nine. We go to one. He's in the back of the green. This it's straight downhill. I too put. I'm going to the us M. This thing hits a come from sixty feet, go straight up and then he takes my spot. Wow yep. And apparently his friend took my stys on the day of the night before. That was great and his friend he did. The kid popped the ball.
Yeah yeah, and at least if not it was off the green going into the friends, you had to chip up and unces, you made the chip. He's had some crazy like moments. Yeah, it's golf. Let me tell you're playing against mother nature, right, and sometimes those stars just have to line up and a your a lucky day. It's one of those crazy you're grinded for every shot out there. Let me tell you that you're working for every shot. So okay, so tell me about do you see these
kids that are getting younger and younger? You're how old? Now? I'm thirty seven, so you're young. But if you ask golfers that are in their fifties and sixties, they would tell you good golfers didn't hit the PGA till the late middle thirties. Is that correct? I think years ago that might have been the case. It's getting younger and younger. And how young are they? Well, several are not going to college, going right to the pros from high school. Really, yeah, we've seen that recently.
But you've also got college has a good development option. You know, a kid like Michael thorp Jornson, he's he's at Stanford right now and he has an opportunity to get to the PGA Tour just by way of his collegiate finishes. So no more C school for something like that, or there is still Q school, but there's other avenues through the sponsors, exemptions and stuff like that. Oh yeah, that you don't have to go. And this this kid, Michael, he's he's a stick. He's the real deal. One
thing I would share to just locally. I think the junior golf scene has changed dramatically. You grew up with it, but it's changed even since him. It has. Yeah, there's more players number one, and there's more talent. You can play year round, right, you can go through simulate. You know, there's there's different programs, clinics. But here here's my question to you. If you're living in Florida, why did you get to
come to mass and sign up here? Easier competition sometimes because they've been playing all your in Florida, but that come back here. Well, given the kids actually working, we're kind of in that snowbird scenario where you might have families that go down south over the winter come back for the summer. So but it is aren't they working the system? A bit? A little bit?
But you can't stop that? No. I mean, for us, if if you're a member of Mask Golf, if you have an affiliation, a handicap or membership at one of our clubs, you're eligible to Oh you are, so you have to have some ties to Mask, you do, but that's easy to get. No, relatively speaking, Yeah, okay, all right, well let's go off to other questions. Are you happy who you are? Extremely Yeah, this has been an incredible ride and seeing a
lot of change over eighteen years. Scotty still over there, No, Scottie is. He's worked at actually a few clubs in the South Shore area. So basically Start is an intern and ended up as present eighteen years. So you ways stuck it out. I did not your typical millennial right, No, not at all. Well, you have the attentions of being a fe I like that. I okay, I'm the worst person talk golf, Chad. You got questions there? This is joshtick, not mine. There you
go, all right? Did was worth to support it? All? Okay? There you go? What it takes. So in your opinion, how is the Masters's Golf Association evolves since its inception? Yeah, it's I'd say we've professionalized. We've grown tremendously. You know. I even for my time within the organization, I feel we were this mom and pop organization. Yeah,
you know a little bit I'm gonna say fraternal in a way. But now I feel we're a community based organization that serves any golfer, no matter how they want to engage a lot of that speaks to a merger that we UH successfully accomplished back in twenty eighteen, So the Massachusetts Golf Association and the Women's Golf Association Massachusetts. We merged both organizations, two one hundred year old organizations into one with the intent to be of service to any again, any
golferline operation. And that's also doing because in the golf world that really didn't happen before. No, no, there was. It was a bit segmentary, and you know, call it territorial, but you know, six years in, it's it's made us a strong organization and I think more visible. Yeah, I'm stay stumble. You listen to w BZ News Radio ten thirty and we'll be right back. Sponsored by Flora Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank. Wo and welcome back to Tough His Nails on w BZ News Radio
ten thirty. And I'm here with Angelina and the Star Child Chad, the Star Chad go ahead, and Jesse MONOCKELM all right, So Jesse knows Chad. Chad knows Jesse. Chad played golf amateur, went to Europe, you played for the European Tour, left Massachusetts, went moved to Florida and still played the mass events up until COVID. Yep. And I'm coming back and hopefully we have a great summer because I know the events are awesome. But now let's get back to this. You will not see me out there for
dinner. No, no, no, because last year up there, hold on, hold on, you forget. I was leaving. The friends that we met with us was the sixty six. Did you hear she had got kicked out the termin almost she had to write a letter to you guys. Did you know what happened the going out this this Charles River? Oh, I was so pissed them. I had the woman that helped me raise Chad and she had cancer in the cart and this kid made such a big deal about it, and I asked for permission pro but there was a kid and
then he went to the head. I don't I don't care. So they found us out there and they said you can't have a cart, and I'm like, this is like the closest thing to Chad besides me being his mom, is the second mom. It wasn't there and it was nice, came out. I was nice until they said she still can't be here and I'm like, wow, this is this is like terrible, right. So I knew the kid said, Jesse, SI you out there. He's actually told
you put your phone down a couple of times. So I pulled up into the ghost shop and I said, you had to start this, didn't you. I said, well, let me tell you something. You started with the wrong woman. And then all of a sudden, that night, I'm getting finned. I walk off the eighteenth Green just happy as hell. I just shot six under. I'm going at it with Herbie and my dad calls me. He goes, cheat, I don't think you play tomorrow. I go, what do you mean? I go, I go ahead, didn't
do anything. I'm thinking, like, did I dismiss a dibbit or something like? What's going on? He goes your mother? I go, what the hell did she do? And then I heard the story. I go, oh God, I go, she's not gonna write the letter. I'm gonna have to write this. I end writing a letter that I know. I wrote a letter and I sent it and I think FITZI wrote the letter and then I signed it and sent it. I'm like, I'm not apologizing. I keep everything. You have to apologize to challenge. I apologize.
So that that's my crazy story. I maybe had a couple more crazy stories out there. Oh in the US opened a couple of times. Your phone's just ringing, and it's always on the par fourards at whole number three with where the bunker in the front at Pine Hills, and then it goes down to part four of the water on the right. Meanwhile there's ten of us with shat a Pine Hills. Her phone's going. I do remember there's always
like, yeah, always there was a pretty good group. Always not because it would be it would be my caddie Mic and my dad does she had to come. She can't drive alone. So be three people, four people and they just don't know any golf edit, you know. And then Steve and all your buddies show up like you always had like ten twelve people up there. But go ahead, but they're not stressful to have out there. But all right, let's go back to the Mask Association. How's it evolved?
Yeah, so I would evolve from where from where you were a kid to now from actually let's go from your start from when you started with the mask off today. Well, again, I would say we've grown in stature. We've grown, you know, from a volunteer based organization now with a staff of about twenty seven. You know, when I started, we had a staff of about eight, very reliant on our volunteer network to you know,
really run the organization and be the front face of the organization. You know, as technologies evolved, as the games evolved, services, et cetera. You know, we need to support our golfers and our clubs in a different way. So we still very much rely on volunteers, but there's a machine now behind the operation. We're over one hundred year old organization, so we were established in nineteen hundred. You know, early on, right,
the likes of Donald Ross Francis we met. I mean, these are the legends within the game, not just here in Massachusetts but beyond, and you know they're kind of the foundation of golf here in the state. Then you go to the likes of Pat Bradley and moving on to the Frank Vanas and Marie Tobns, Harry McCracken. Right, Ryah, another ambassador of the game. So it's important that wed I mess him. He was a legend, he was a good friend and to me, oh yeah, good role model
all that. But you know, it's important for us that we you know, honor respect the traditions of it. But how do we continue to evolve as an organization and making sure that we sustain this game long term? Well, keep the tradition. I like that. And now so with evolving, Now, you said you joined with the Women's League and all that. Are there any co ed events for the listeners out there where you know, say a boyfriend and girlfriend, husband and wife are two good golfers, they want
to link up and play a tournament. Do you guys offer that? Yeah, absolutely, we have a handful of them, and actually one of them has become a mixed four ball championship. So this was something new for the organization. Once we merged, we felt, is there an opportunity to bring our top players from the male side the female side and have them merge together.
You see combinations of Matt parzy Ally and Shannon Johnson, two of our best players nationally pairing up as a team, Herbie Aikins and Megan b Sue curtain Frank Vanna. You know, in a very natural way, this became really a stable calendar and it just took off. So it's partnering up a
female and the male. Yeah, which has never really never happened because honestly, female weren't really a lot of golf courses to when it probably depends what part of the country or the mass mass was late late, yeah, relatively. Yeah, mass is real old traditional golf coy. I remember even at Spring Valua when we first longed to Spring Valley, I was in my early twenties. I was twenty three. Dad could go out there early. We got to look four o'clock. No, no, no, like twelve one
o'clock after lunch. The women could go out there and play. I think you'll find a lot of that type of policy is still there. No, it's gone six that is faded, and there were some clubs that you couldn't even bring your kids to the country club. I mean, you want to talk about down south, they still have some of their ways with their clubs and stuff. Oh no, we're in Massachusetts. Yeah, even we're airing in thirty seven states, we're in Massachusetts. So we'll stay with the mask
because yeah we do. But and specifically stand this show right now, we're able to champion, you know, the women's game and having events like this So I have a question like who would Lexi Thompson, Lexi and Chad go back to kids? Very close to no, but who would they partner her up with if she wanted to play? You choose? So I would play with Lexi, but I can't because she's a professional. There's actually on the professional tours, there's some I think behind the scenes discussion as to a mixed,
a potential mixed. It hasn't got to that level yet. Didn't they just do some small event where they said two and two? They did? Lexi played with uh yeah, down in Florida. Yeah, yeah, the match, yeah, the master happened. Yeah. But isn't she playing on the PGA Men's No, she played one event I think most recently. That's right. Yeah, she's exclusively on the LPGA tour. But I think she had a sponsor exemption to a PGA tour. And let me tell you,
she kept up. Have you met many women that can play absolutely better than put In on the same tea, Well, let me give you an example. I mentioned Shannon Johnson a few minutes ago. So Shannon won the US Women's mid Am just a couple of years ago, and she has signed up and played in several predominantly male events of ours, call it our mid Am Championship. Successfully competed in that event. She qualified for it. You had Mollie Smith compete in the Mass Amateur last year, which and howl. So
Molly's in college now she's a freshman in college. Shannon is, Uh, she's a mid am probably late thirties. So they're there are They're out there, and they can definitely compete, but they can't play on the PGA Men's They have to again Lexi, Lexi did play, so there's the ability to play. Is she the first one to play on the men's I don't know. I don't think she is. Then we shall we play the male event. Yeah, I can't remember off hand, but I know I mean we
played in the women's amateur public links. Yeah. Right, Well, then I have a female question here. I'm gonna ask the hard questions. I always ask the hard questions, Right, why do male golfers make more money than female golfers? In your opinion or you don't have an opinion, that's a good one. Now that's well, I think you're starting to see that shift a bit. You know, you're seeing the US Women's opens perse increase. I think it's getting up to twelve million dollars. And what's the men's
uh, I can't remember off the top of my head. It might be it might be in the around twenty thereabouts. Yeah, you know. Then I guess the argument might be eyeballs and awareness and and they like to watch the men's better. I mean, that's it. It comes down to. It comes down to sponsorship, pay advertise. That's what it comes down. So, yep, it's okay women, you can't complain. We've come a long way. But actually no, but it's it's upcoming. I think things
are changing quite rapidly. Rapid Yeah, and now do you see any and that's kind of hard, but actually we come back to that. All right, we'll hold that thought. We're going to break chat and we'll let you take back. Go with chet, I'm Citty stumbling you Listen Tough His Nails on w b Z News Radio ten thirty right sponsored by Pellow Windows of Boston, Next Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet Came, One City King Came Back the World. Listen and welcome back to Toughest Nails on wbc Who's Radio ten thirty
and I'm City Stumple and I'm here with Angelina quiet one. Chad Stumpo. Chad's got a lot to say today. I'm not Okay, there you go. I'm backing off of this one because these are the golfers, right. I know when it's my lane. I know when I'm off I ninety five. I'm not on I ninety five. I'm not on driver, I'm on he sed I'm I'm in the cast seat. Okay, go ahead, boys. She's like happy Gilmore comes. I'm happy Gilmore comes to golf. Just
destructive. That's a good thing, all right, Jesse. So another question I have. What initiatives or programs has a Masschosists Golf Association undertaken to promote the sport and foster community engagement. Yeah, we are a five and one C three charity and we've been and what's the five O one C. I mean, we're a nonprofit organization and our development arm is ultimately around junior golf and we've been a champion of first t National program under the PGA Tours umbrella.
This is an opportunity for us to bring young kids into the game, but teach them core values of life. And skills and really to be great people long term, and we get them on the golf course through instruction, through coaching, and what have you. And we're twenty years in. We
are hugely proud of this program serving all of Massachusetts. And on top of that, another program that's a little bit newer for us, it's called Youth on Course, and we feel this program complements the first t as it's an opportunity to get kids on the golf course where they pay no more than five dollars per round and we subsidize the balance of that round at any facility that they participate at. So it's a way to get these kids on the golf
course, to make it accessible, yep, and affordable. One of the big challenges that we face as an industry. Golf can be expensive in certain markets, right, and we want to make sure that we're getting more kids in a game, that it's affordable to them their families, and that there's
no barrier to entry. And now do you think with all that, do you think with bringing these kids in a young age teach them, they're also learning life lessons through this game and morals that which kind of our country is kind of lacking right now, we do you think the game of golf teaches that, you know, that's that's really the foundation of first tea, right,
But think about it. You know, whether you're you're playing caddying the people that you're with, the etiquette that you're learning on the golf course. You know, respect, integrity, honesty, perseverance, all these values right that are going to help you in your career. Accountability, No, I have. Let me tell you, it comes back to you. One thing. I would one thing about Chad. He would never lie on his and I'd say to his father, everybody else is lying, why isn't he?
And Joe would say that's not a gentleman sport, that's right. And I remember Joe saying that accountable if he ever threw his club, Oh my god, Oh no, Joe is going to go like, I'm walking your club, and don't you ever cheat on your score like they played for my bank, Village bank, like they use those guys just like all the time. Completely a completely different world. He completely different. I'm talking about that world.
I want to tell all you male golfers that get up there and lie and you put those scores that you really didn't hit those scores, you're liars. You collect the gifts, and you should feel guilty because that's like not even impossible. That comes out when you play with the actual person about this one. They're playing and chat shoots a hole in one right, like like they brought a score that was crazy, and I'm like the president my bank, I'm like, how how did they? I shot sixty two that day
and we lost? Because how can these kids? I have my stupid question. It's like only asked stupid questions that comes off. Can these kids cheat without you guys knowing it? Hot? Well, let's let's so so Chad knows, right, he's played, I played numerous events. You know, yes, yes she can, and I've seen it done firsthand. But then I've also seen it catch up to you. But let's talk about why. It's a little easier than the pros. So, yes, you have a
marker at the amateur level, but you only have one you got. It's an honor system, it really is. You got to be truthful and you know you play the same ball. You can't change. You have to say the same market. You have to find that ball. There's kids out here. You go in the woods and it takes two seconds to you know,
drop a ball. Some kids maybe get a little foot edge just to get a little fluffly and then the catch it or you don't, I mean, you kind of don't want to be, you know, that person to catch
them because then the conversation will happen. But yes, there's cheating that goes on at a lower level of golf, right chesse professional And when you catch these kids, what happens like do you say, like, well, hey, we're we're you know, a rules governing body, right, we've got to run an equitable competition or event for all the players that are in the field. It's likely that we're going to have a conversation with that player, maybe a parent, if they're a guardian, if they're around, and you
know, at times maybe it's an education opportunity. But if you're in an amateur championship or you know, a mid am, it's a different different scenario. You know, if that were to happen, it's going to come to light. Oh let me tell you shape in the golf world, you'll be known and you don't want that name? Is that true, Chad? You just say that in the golf world, you don't want to be known as a cheater. Well, I mean in any in any way of life,
in anyway that way. But it's a game of life, it really is. So when you guys go out there and you play these amateur events, isn't something in the golf cut with you most of the time you walk in. No, but you have one marker, you have officials out there, but it's you have trees. You catch one little thing. The guy times a right. Like you say, if I'm walking right behind you can't go behind, then you can't hear you. If you're away from the mic,
Chad, we're not on TV anymore, one radio. If I just walked right behind him real quick, right, No, you can see you walking home. So if I walked right behind him for two seconds, like a second, I could drop a ball so fast you wouldn't even see it because the tree is covering you. Got it. So say he's a tree, I walked by him, you couldn't even see it. So it's the honest system being kept with the next generation kids, I would say it is. Yeah, we're doing as much as we can to educate it, to preach
it. Hey, it's a part of the game. A father's out there as much as they used to be. Yes, I would say parents are out there quite a bit. We don't run a ton of junior events, but for those that we do, the parents are paying the club. We've got certain policies that keep would be us. Just your famous in the MGA, Thank you. I got to be famous for Rego. Okay, all right? So do you think the kids and again I'm gonna ask the dumb questions, not the hard questions, right because I'm a dummy in this game.
Do you think having the parents out there cause more pressure on these kids than the kids were just out there having a good time playing In many cases, yes, I think it depends on on their presence, on you know, what they're doing. Are they being encouraging or relationship and the relationship right? And then what happens off the golf course? Right? Is it going blow by blow? This is what you did? Well? This is what you didn't or was it did you have fun out there? Sport? Right?
Then? But there are kids that a father is that he had a father that was a scratch golfer. Sure, so it's not like he had a father that's was a country club golfer, you know, or no golfer. So of course his dad was going to give him honesty, but as had Timmy Tarney, who's like an older brother to me my whole life. And so he put a club in my hand three years old. There's a mentor there, right, Yeah, mentor your dad put the club in Timmy's here and you see how it went. Yeah, he was working for your
dad as a lot boy. He came out of his HackMaster we used to call him, and Joe put the club in his hand. That's when he found in love of golf. And that's the beauty of the game. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that was just my dumb question at all. You can go back to your smarty pant questions. Well, let me let me jump on the smarty pant question again. I mentioned first T and youth on course, but we're seeing another new initiative coming from the USGA. This
is something from Mike wand the new CEO there. He was the former LPGA commissioner for about eleven years, but he recognized in his role as commission of the LPGA that there weren't a lot of Americans at the top of the leader board for LPGA events. That is true reason being we don't have a formal junior development program for golf. We have it for all other sports, right hockey, baseball, soccer. We have all these other countries that have a
formalized program for golf. They have houses in Florida, Arizona where they bring and kind of raise these kids, teach them, develop them, provide different services that they might need to improve their game and develop in their game. So we are actually launching, We're one of seven pilot programs across the country to create Team Massachusetts, So a junior golf development initiative that we hope will bear fruit down the line. And perhaps you see a young girl from Massachusetts
at the top of the or boy at the top of the leaderboard. And what do you think do you think you'll see in the female World's go to LPGA? Do you think you'll see more female American golfers out there? I do think after ten years, this is going to create a pipeline, you know, whether it's through high school golf, a j G, a USGA competition's college golf, and then hopefully at some time, you know, the
tours. If things are successful, I would love to see it. Even though I played for Italy, I still love to see the United States too good. My producer is knocking me on the shoulders. That means I got to get off my phone because I can't keep it with a conversation and go off to break. Thank you. I'm Sinny Stompany. Listens WBZ News Radio ten thirty and We'll be right back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group,
Boston, would Smaller Insurance World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto Body. You made and welcome back to Toughest Nails on w b Z News Radio ten thirty And I'm City Stumpo and I'm here with Angelina, Chad and Jesse Monocle. Chad. You your last name? Yeah, your son usually what's your last name again? Grilla? No, it wasn't it was, It's stump She's not feisty anymore. Would you say it's going to be what would you say it's going to be Stumpo? Yes? Oh you sure about that? Very
sure? Okay, I'll be the golf widow taker, you'll be the golfer. I'll be the golf widow, the golf widow. Ye, yes, I'll be divorced. You need to understand that, Yes, maybe it'll be a team. Yeah, I want to caddy for me, right, she's have We've seen that out in the PG to just watch. So let's get back to this listeners out there. I hope everyone's having a wonderful night.
Actually my list is like to listen to see who my kids are dating and then they try to picture like what they We'll come back with the reality show you all back to TV. Never had it up. Honestly, I think I need one. But let's talk about how the game's evolving. And in my opinion, because I worked with First Team Miami Dade for a little while and I did a lot of work within the city kids, I brought my own clubs for them and stuff like that taught them. Do you see a
lot more of that mass? Now? Still? Are you guys developing a program for that here? Do you guys have that? Yeah? Great question? And you know, again, as I spoke earlier with our first TEA program, that's where I'll put some focus and energy because the intent there is underserved communities. You know, where can we bring golf to those that need it that can't afford it too? First and foremost City of Boston has been a champion location for us. We've had our first tea program at Franklin Park
since twenty fifteen and it's been hugely successful. You know, it's tied into parks and rec. Kids have an opportunity to participate in the program for free three seasons out of the year. On top of that, we're down in Brockton, We're at dw Field, which has been another home run. We're out in Springfield as well. So trying to put some like I said, some energy and focus in these parts of the states that really we want to
see golf thrive. And you know, the municipalities, the parks and rec departments, they've all been hugely supportive and it's allowed our game to grow and thrive. And we're seeing these kids kind of graduate on become members of you know, our organization, competitors and certain events and seeing a ton of success from that. Yeah. Well, also one of my friends actually in Boston. Have you ever heard of urban Golf? I have, So that's one
of my really good friends, pretty good. I did a little lesson last year with him in Franklin Park. Just love to see like all those inner city because they like it. But it's hard to focus them real quick, but once they get it, they all in love with it. And I mean, I don't know if you guys ever met, but i'd love to introduce you guys. Maybe I think you're speaking about Marcos. Yeah, Marcos, well, yeah, absolutely, Jesse. Where can parents find these programs?
So you can start with our website at massolf dot org. You can also go to first Team mass and through those websites you can check out the programming, the scheduling. I mentioned three seasons out of the year. We also do have off season programming, so indoor clinics at boys and girls clubs, you know, gymnasiums, virtual golf as well. Right, so there's a ton of different options for them. That's awesome, all right. And with all that, with all the you know, the technology coming up.
Yeah, can you how can you say, like has the technology impacted like the golf world it dramatically? You know, let's talk about question. That's okay, I got the interviewed. All my clients want golf simulas in the house. Everyone, it's it's hey, it's a way to keep the golf clib in your hand. Twelve months out of the technology get out of a
golf simulator. You can, you absolutely can. And not only that, but you can get data right and it can you can analyze your swing and get feedback from coaches through video technology and you can see all your all your angles, you know, swing speeds, everything. So it's becoming tool. Even if you just have a net, you get a track, you can see everything on the computer. Come on these golf simulas I'm putting in houses Like yeah, I'm saying, if you want to got that putting green and
the little cheaper side. I guess if you want a golf in the winter time? Do you think they're simulating golf? They're blowing up. I see them opening them up everywhere. Now we have we've seen league play you know where folks. You know it's there's also the social element too, right, whether it's your your top golf experience or uh is there the top golf is or are you outside playing on top of it? Why you're indoor lire heated base tape but you're hitting out indoor out door. And my last question,
and I have no more, the rest is on you in chat. If one more person tells me. In my twenty year career with chat that golf is not a sport. Can I punch them in the eyeballs and like hold them? Yes? And then can I put my pants in your ears? Because to this day they still say it's not a sport. There's athletes the hardest. It's one of the hardest games. I think it's hardest. Is golf considered a sport? But thank you? I think that can be answered
differently by how you engage with the game. Is it a sport or not? Absolutely? And how long have people been saying that it's not a sport until COVID, I think, well, I mean, just look at these athletes right on the LPGA or PGA. No, look at the athletes at all. One of the NBA players based you know, baseball basketball think they could hit the ball, couldn't hit the easy. He couldn't even touch it. And I finally got him hit it. He was hit a seven,
nine, one fifty. But all my addicted, all my athletes that live in my homes, they always say, can chat teach me? Can chatt teach me? Because they think it's a sport. Thinks it's a sport. I think about it too post post career. If they're an NBA player or NFL player. Right, they're not playing these sports until they're fifty years old. They need a competitive atmosphere. How do they get that competitive outlet? And golf becomes for a lot of them. Yeah, Like I played with
Lawrence all the time in Florida. Man, he just loves competing. He just came out that mental state. They just love to compete. You know a couple of NBA players that were in the bubble back in the pandemic right Orlando. They had a lot of time in between their games. They were this this fraternity where they really couldn't go anywhere. They were eating together. There were golf courses in that facility Gate. All they would do is play
golfer. And the guys are young. But when the Ryder Cup came to the country club, Michael Jordan was in town, cam they that was with all of them hanging out like they were playing, they were watching. Then they would play their own games and they were having a ball. Yeah. Who fell off the balcony that year because he got so drunk. I will not say I keep that one. There's certain things I can't discuss, But I just want to say this because a lot of people say this, golf
is not a sport. Have we said now, golf is a sport? Yes, okay, RD Golf's a sport. If anyone wants to argue that, go pick up a golf club, yeah and go shoot. Yeah, let me know if you can make a bird or a par I just I think you got to look at you know, the best players in the world and how they train and how they prepare themselves to be the best in the world. Right, it looks a lot different than it did years ago. Oh yeah, now everyone's at shay. It's a full times it's a full
time job, it is. I have another dumb question. Sorry, this will be my last dumb work, I promised, Like, I'm sorry. We're out here hitting balls to our hands are bleeding. That's how much you have to practice. Did Tiger Woods change this game forever being one of the youngest guys to come out there and play the way he played. Yeah, you know at that time, he made it relevant for the next generation. Yep, no one worked out he started that. Okay, I'm done with
my dumb questions. You know the pandemic, right, it was an unfortunate time, but great time for the golf. Well, it was a boon for the industry. It absolutely was, and I think it became relevant once again. I think there's been some changes, and I think this is why people don't want to go They want to do this. Don't go to work, go to work thing. Don't want to go to the office because they go to play golf. Okay, yeah, they' bring to laptops so there
they do zoom calls. Yeah, I think you're seeing more rounds early in the morning and then more rounds at four o'clock in the afternoon than I agree. They're getting their licks in right, all right, So let's get back to this. What are some unique characteristics or features? A little dumb question? No, stupid question. Good, I have another one. I'll play
it. No, I'm all done with my dumb questions to payroll. What are some unique characteristics or features of golf culture in Massachusetts compared to the other regions. So a couple things. Uh. One, I would start that two thirds of the facilities in Massachusetts are publicly accessible. So I think that's that's something we should champion, right, anyone can get on these facilities and enjoy the game. On top of that, let's talk about the territory of
the state. Right, you go from Cape Cod, you know some tourists type attractions all the way to Western mass You've got two very different experiences. Exactly in between, we've got a plethora of nine hole venues. And to me, I think a nine hole venue allows for, you know, an easy way for folks to bake golf into their lifestyle. Right. It's a
shorter experience, a little less intimidating in some respects. You can fit into your schedule whether you're you know, a working parent, right, You've you've got to juggle kids activities. Yet an hour and a half, an hour and a half go play night holes right now? For the listeners out there, where are a lot of these night whole courses? How about this? I gotta step in hold. I thought we're going to break on Cidney Stump and he listens to WBZ News Radio ten thirty. It'll be right back to
you. Yeah, it's me again, would you know? And welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty And I'm City STUMPO. I got another dumb question, Jess. We have too much to cover it, Okay, can you just come back next weekend so we can do a two part of here. Just make sure it's not seventy five degrees and sunny. Okay, it won't be, I promise, because I might be on the golf course with you. No, you won't be eight o'clock at night.
You're not on the golf course eight o'clock. Yes, you are, actually all right. I can get on you absolutely boom. How do people get in touch you, Jesse Fast, our website maskolf dot org, or on social playmask golf. Repeat that, maskolf dot org. Our website and our social handles, play mask golf. One more time, maskolf dot org and our social handles play mask golf. And if you didn't get that, then I don't know what's wrong with you. People, have a great, safe
weekend, and I'll see you next weekend. This is Cindy Stumpo toughes Nails WBZ News, raded ten thirty