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For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female homebuilder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family on a date with me. That's a good note. It's goddemn weird. See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it just

doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction, real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. Every time I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. But that's what makes your houses all your day. Discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. She can yell and you can scream, but when you get her alone,

she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. Welcome to Cindy Stuffo Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. Now. Guys, So when they made that opening they've taken bits and piece of all the shows we've done to the years, and that's how all your voices around there got it. We're going to create a new one cause we don't name. So you know how we have the meetings in the office where we literally like crap on each other for like two three hours and then we all leave

friends. So it's kind of like what we do once a year here. So we're gonna go. We could actually start with clockson. Let me ask you this question, of course, get on the mic, Mike, Get on the mic. Get on the mic. Where are originally from? Talking to the mic, I'm from a zoo. How long you've been this country? Three years? How long you've been working with the Stumple Development more than twenty? Yes, so three years after you came to this country, you

came on board this company. How'd you build up your company? Build my company a lot with your help? Because you build a really good name. You understand these neighbors over here, the people you work around over here understand and the and the and the and the house you build over here something everybody, every single people wanted the same look house because you have a good eyes and you bring that like from nothing. We got a meeting over there.

We're going to do over here, Clark said one of these I think it's too much. No, clok, say want to like that? And the end the house is farming. So basically, though, you built your business off of working with Cidney Stumple. No, there's no together. I was out, you came out. So let's get something clear right now. I've been there for thirty six years. You've been out there for twenty three years. You came to work with Sea Stumple twenty years ago. Then you ran

all over the city and said I do Cidney Stumble's work. I said, oh, you do Sidney Stumble's work. Then you got the door open field. Correct, that's true. Okay, and we're still together all these years later. How many divorces you think we probably could have had along the way. I have divorced every one of you guys at some point. We've taken a break for a year and I come back. We were separation for a break for for a year. Maybe one house to it. She did to

me too, because you know you're not about that. Sometimes we because we build something really really strong together and for that for that for that ships something like that, it becomes beautiful. We create some good guys to you and good companies, and we create like a good opportunity. And that's a good point about your studient since because you're not closed the door for this all the contractor, you understand like like you did with w as with with a lot

of Padro, a lot of guys around over here. You a door right on there. But you give a chance to everyone. Yeah, okay, if you're too busy, I'm might have gave them one chance and then gone. Because my loyalty is always wife. No, no, here's my loyalty speaking the mic to who with me? Oh? Okay always. That's a long time in every single I've been with you longer than I was married. You spoke about the job too, you understand, and we agree on that

like you read it right. That's why we got just he is true. You understand, Okay, I am well sure, I take that. But I can be nasty. You can say it. Can I be nasty? You didn't have to agree with me. I tarn that, you know, Yeah, that would be you second that. No, three, he left he left. Everybody knows Wait, hold on, yeah, except you guys only get for eight hours to day. I get it for twenty four. Could be the worst, but you still love each other. True, you

have talking about bend down your six five. Everybody knows that family could be the worst, but we still love each other. So you're saying we're family. Are here? I would have to say, yeah, I would. I would have to go. I'm gonna ask you guys that you produce with us? Yes? Okay, So here's my question. All the builders you work for, you've been an h VC guy for thirty something years. What other builders you work with that you can say runs their company like a family?

No? None, Do we fight? We don't, but we fight like brother and sister. Yeah, of course, and we start doing that, and funny, me and you will fight an hour later. How's going great? Good? People? Might people might think I'm bipolo. We all are. Maybe we all are, but that is the truth. I don't think anybody else has a company that has sustained over thirty five years, right, and we've most of us have been together even the same. When you

say thirty six again, I'm gonna knock you through those records. Okay, I get older, you get older, yeah, well, we're gonna just cut a thirty five years. That's it. I'm not aging anymore. But when you think about this, when we go there and we look at a guy like Neil Johnson, he started with me, he was the first guy with me as much to want to kick his divorced him the most. Oh, I divorced him so many times, and I go running back right,

just how it is. But I've treated this company like a family and no one can take that away from me. I might yell, I might scream, I might carry on, but sorry, if you guys just do all your jobs without me babysitting, I need to get my boots off the ground. I don't want a Microman's jobs. Maybe they're all a menopose with you. Oh, they're aging out with me too. Okay, here's the next

question. Who's tired? Oscar? You're feeling it, honey, you're looking you're looking a little there, all right, and you're how old, Oscar? Okay, that's the age you start to feel it, John you're feeling it. I feel it, but I feel it? But why I work out so I don't have to? Yeah, so you work out, you feel better, much better, Okay, Wachie my favorite plumber, and I want to bust his head all the time. Go ahead, feeling it? Is it good? Of course, it's show. There's a show till eleven

o'clock nowadays. Okay, can we admit? Can we admit you're on your texts like this lately? Yes? Yes? Why is that just because I'm on point? No? It was because a month ago I said I'm done, I'm done. You say that every week. I gonna say that a lot, but I there's gonna come a point where I go, I'm done. I think you guys start to feel that. In the less going on, you thought it meant it because you saw other guys, new guys coming and going. Yep, okay, I hired them. They were actors.

Okay, I'm going to hire some really big, good looking stuts to come on the job. Some hire some jots. What are they gonna do? Absolutely nothing but look pretty right off? Okay, Muscles, he's gonna throw the guys right out. I'm gonna bring Look as he's running away, he's like, I want no smoke. Okay, okay, So let's talk about Mikey. I think Mikey gets a the biggest reward out here, Mike. You started here how many years ago? Now? Two? Right now?

Actually, Okay, when you came on, you didn't know what a two by four was, a two by six, a nail, a screw, a hammer, nothing, pretty much. That's pretty accurate. And how much have you learned enough to feel proud of yourself? Yeah? I mean, obviously a lot of the people in the room right now we just die just version. Yeah, a lot of the people in the room are definitely the reason that I've learned a lot, not just you, but you know,

Posey Richie, Oscar Clarkson. I never said you learned anything from me. I'm the worst teacher. No, no, no, I learned a lot from you. I learned that everything looks beautiful with Clarkson, even if it doesn't. No, but even though that would be Clockson's remark, beautiful beautiful, Cindy, rip it down. It's not all over again. But seriously, I think you've come a long way in two years, and I think

everybody needs to give you the adavoid that. Okay, Okay, I gotta go to commercial break call That thought sponsored by Flora Decore, National Lumber and Village Bank and welcome back to Toughest Nails on w BS. Who's Radio tent third And I'm Cindy. I'm here with John, I'm here with osc I'm here with Richie. I'm here with Mike. I'm here with Clarkson. I'm here with Sammy. I'm here with Jason. I'm here with my handsome son Chanan. I'm here with Mark. He's here in Shaw's here. I don't

know where she went to. But okay, so you've got everybody's name rate I know this is That was a good moment. I must have some testas from going with my body right now. So, Mikey, I want to tell you on ear in public that I'm very proud of you, even though I call you. What's the names I call you? Some of them aren't fit for air, but stupid for lack of better term. I don't even think he knows his real name on the job site. Okay, how low?

I think I made you cry one time he left? Uh yeah, actually I think that might have happened, but it was more because of our argument. But you and I argue every day. So okay, and what do I say? What's the biggest thing I say to you one of yours and I want to put my hand up. Don't want you. Just tell me to shut up. Don't talk. That's it, don't talk, Mike. Pat Jane has not learned to read the len eyes. Yes, I have no No, I'm like this. The eyeballs are crossing before you get

It's like, dude, dude, Rael doesn't know those eyes. I know what's wrong with him. Everybody knows those Chad, you did. Everybody's like what I just say? Okay, that's that's that's Mike, Chad. Let me ask you a question. Yeah, we're going there. We all in this room love real estate? Could we all say we love real estate? We love our jobs? Absolutely? Yes, Okay, besides marrying a very wealthy woman of being born into generational wealth, are you all happy where you

are in your careers? Absolutely? Yeah, Okay, I'd agree with that. Somebody asked me if I had to do over, what would I do different? Not much of anything, because we get to go out there, we get to scream left and then we get to have fun. We do right and Yep. It's been a tough three years. It has been product delays, COVID. We were all working out the air. We were essential, and Mike you weren't even with the company, but you have to help

in Chad. You guys were figuring all out if he was going back to Florida. I mean we were. I mean, yeah, it's crazy, right, we're hiding cars in garages so we can work. Work. Don't turn the lights on, don't I think? I think I uber in one day, everybody, nohlight, hold on the ball pain. We're shipping him in like in like trucks, dropping the guys off, putting the back door

and then letting them go out the front door. Because that was you know, the new mirror she made it. We weren't essential, but Brookline and reals fall Governor Baker's rules. But of course her. But that's okay. I'll get my own pick, my own bone to pick with that that holy regime over Newton. But anyways, I was saying the Chad, Chad, we gotta try to convince Chad like to learn to stay around. Yes, exactly. And I think that the more he feels secure, what he learns.

I think we as all men in here except me. I could be partial, man, I don't know, Hey, hold on, I'm partial, man. Somebody said, that's me in the way, oh shot did but way when you guys didn't know the lingo, right, you didn't know the lingo of what you were doing. You had no confidence, right Richie? Yeah, when did the confidence gain for you? Pull up the mic. When I got more knowledge and confidence in my field? There you go, and prior to that, you want the other way when you're not confident

something. And that's why I try to explain to Chad. When you take action, you learn more knowledge. Then you take the knowledge and it turns into more action and before you know it, action knowledge knowledge, action, action knowledge, you stop making lots of money. Does everybody in this room, as a subcontractor or work for C. Stumpo make a great living?

Yes? Yes, yes, okay. We come out of school, we have no debt, we owe nobody money, a little bit of money here and there, and we make more money than the average doctor, average lawyer, average accountant and a story. We can still dictate our lives, do what we want. We know when we have to be responsible, liable, dependable. We all have a lot of stress on our back, but we can come and go and do what we want when we want to do it,

and we got the money to do that. Am I correct? Most important thing about your business, you're in control of your own time, exactly, exactly. No one can dictate your time to you. You'll get so much time in life. It's all unless I call. If I call or I text, everything stops. But that's the idea that we got to implement the parents today is to push these kids go into that mic I need to hear it asking bring it home as go to trade schools. Absolutely get into

the trades. Our community right now is you know, having a big vote about redeveloping a trade school and you know, can you resolve the torne up about it? Why do we have to spend money on building trade schools because parents are idiots? Yeah, well, let me tell you what's going to happen to college the next time years. They're going to become obsolete. How's that? I gotta be honest. I think high school shou just start te shirt and trade. They shouldeat. They did chat. But here's the problem.

Here's what schools aren't teachers. No one really cares about Napoleon and all that stuff. Back in the day, like wet n I always said, to make money is dissecting this frog going to get me dead in my life because I failed, right because I went to dissect the frog. Guess what, I'm fifteen years old. The line of work I went into, I would never have to dissect the frog. I wasn't becoming a doctor or a scientist. What the heck that I need to do that? It was stinking

and smelly. The point is because you figured out then you didn't want to do that. I did because I knew back then I wasn't going to do anything with turtles and frogs and it was so stupid. But you just said a chat. But we did have trades in our schools back then, and then they took it out, and then I had to disagree with that. I think they should bring it back absolutely. Half bring in is that if you went to a trade school when I went to school, you weren't you

know, you were the dummy. I actually did. I went to trade school. So when we went down that end of the school chat, you know, you called a grease monkey because you're a mechanic. You were the dummy all he's going, you know, And there was that stigma. And here's the problem to this day, if parents butt out if you see your kids or a tinker and they can do things. No chat, I'm never budding out of your life. So what okay, till tell me? Will you miss me if I go back to the European Tour? No? But

you No, I'd be so happy you've been on the European Tour. But at the end of the day, we have to live in today's world, the real world, and make a living today, okay, And we can all have our dreams. And if you decide to that, you want to go back, and you want to take your invitational to the Live tour and go try that out in the intim if you had worked englfed at the same time, you would have gained different work ethics. We all need to work

and have a purpose. When you don't get up in the morning and have a purpose, Jason, you've dealt with booze and your passed as a young kid, right, you know, when there's no purpose, you're going to get yourself into a gym. Every one of us as young kids did stupid things. Richie, Oh yeah, why hey, because I was young and stupid. And what happens when you're young and stupid, got nothing to do?

In my case, I got depressed and good well just didn't go the way I wanted it to, and drink and partying in wasting time right time that you can never get back, never get back. And if you had a joova, oh I had a good everything different And you're only how old today? I just turned forty seven the other day. So at forty seven you even would to do a joover? Okay, agreed? Yeah, clocks, and you feel like you've done everything right out here all this time.

The box is just beautiful. Clocks is just beautiful, per but clocks. And here's the difference. We're all Americans in this room. You came from the country Brazil. Yes, you came here with work ethic. You came here and want to make a better life for you, your wife and your children. Yes. When you look at Americans, you and your wife, when you talk at home at night, you say lazy. They have all the opportunity. No, never, you're a liar. No I have because

American kids nowadays, they're lazy kids coming out the way they act. Oh and Clarkson, honestly, I got to get flowers. I have to give flowers to your son. I'm very proud of your son, JP. He has worked his butt off and he hustles. Tell you, but I had to get in a conversation another two hours. I'm kno getting back in my life because the son doesn't recognize that from his father that he is doing a

great job. And the son and the father side to put them together on the phone for two hours, two hours, I'm never going to get back. Clarkson, you can't look at your son like he's your son anymore. You got to look at it as a man growing into a businessman, which sometimes it's hard to do. But let me tell you when Samantha crossed that line. Boom, so JP, if you listen, I'm proud of you

JP. Yeah, Chad absolutely absolutely. But at the end of the day, if we could all rally around Chad to get him up, get him to the job in the morning, even if we all just take a piece and say Chad this that boom boom boom, shove all the work on him. He's out kill him. Okay. Anyways, we're going to break I'm

seeing's company. Listen to have his nails on w BV his radio tenth right back sponsored by Pillow Windows of Boston, Next Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet and Welcome to Tumpes Nails on w B Zenas right now ten thirty and I'm Sidney Stumpo and I'm here with my daughter Samantha, my son Chad. I got John Oscar, Richie, Mikey Clarkson, Jason and Mark and I don't know what shower into again, guys, let's talk. We're gonna talk on the third as we call this what's this the third one segment segment? Okay,

we're in segments. Oscar pull the mic. You say I make you nervous in the very beginning being the newbie. Yeah, you can intimidate me a little bit because you're a very intelligent woman that had visions that we all gotta going to the mic. The MIC's there, you have to see your vision. And it was a little bit. It was a lot of a learning curve coming on boardstand it's the premium quality that I've seen going into these homes. Was like I've never seen and work with builders before, and and that

took me back a little bit. I was like, because you don't see that from other builders. A lot a lot of builders are about the bottom line and you know, you know, let's face that the net profit at the end. And these guys kind of like they they ve jobs to the point that where they can save, they're gonna save. And I didn't see that with you. I see that you're using all the top, top of

the line products, all the top of the line windows. Everything that's going in is like I'm like, wow, there's a ton of money being spent there, and it was very and there is and there is. So then when we get a stupid things, Yeah, that's that's a good point where he's being there because what are you doing? That would be called the mic

not Samitha's head. Oh everyone is doing the same way, bringing our best to the jobsand you all think that you bring your best every day of the job, even on Saturday, no clot his work says he practices the Jewish holidays. The only guy I know from Brazil that practiced the Jewish holidays. That's not Jewish. By the way. Okay, look, I always say to you guys, if one guy falls down, we all fall down.

That's it. Right. Like we're moving back to Doug. Hate to tell you, Ray, but Doug will be coming back on board, right, Yes, because I Doug is a phenomenal painter. Yes, yes, yes, I have seen him O. Doug and I needed a divorce for a bit. We had it. But see now I have to respect as a painter. You know why, because you don't know what you got until you

don't have it anymore, right, That's when you realize. So it took me, obviously to reach out to him and say, well, he actually put a story up, which gave me to go and make a comment and then call him on the phone and say, okay, you ready to put this marriage back together. That's it. We've had three years apart from each other, barely two and a half years. You guys must have a great

prenup, and we had a good prenup. But as much as he can get under my crazy skin and want to kill him, not a better painter out there, not, just not. And he knows what you expect with that, which knows what I expect. So that's it. That's it. So you know, I could probably interview another ten to fifteen painters. I don't want to. I'm going to go back to the guy that I know that can put the quality work I want out there. Jason. You and

I we've been together since you're how old you now? Fifty? You're fifty, he's fifty. I can't believe he's only eighty as I was twenty five or twenty six games. And one of my first description of you was from a woman you were building a house for. She got recommended me. Yeah, you know, someone recommended a friend recommended her to call me, and she said, you're gonna meet with my builder tomorrow, but you gotta be careful. She's a man in a woman's body. That's all I'm gonna say.

That was the delivery. That was the delivery. Twenty Yeah, that's what she told me. She said, she's a be careful. She's a man in a woman's body, so hey, hold on. She literally said, I'm going to put you with my builder, which is a spect house I was doing, and they hand an allowance they could go anywhere they wanted, but be careful because she's like a man and a woman's body. Correct exactly what she said to me, and that's I still remember it to this

day. That was my first explanation of what I was running into. And then you met me. Yeah, I met you at the house behind stamat okay, but then you met me, and what'd you say? You grilled me? Grilled? Oh yeah, like you do you know what you're doing? Yeah? Like, yeah, you grilled me to make sure I knew what I was doing. Okay, that's about the extent that I remember, But other than that, it was blur. No. So was I did you driveway going? Oh my god, she is a man in woman's body.

No, ya, No, I mean I grew up in a household of assertive women. So you just came across to me as an assertive woman who, like, you know, I was like, I was dealing with my mom? Is that twenty five years ago? That's what I felt like? He said, twenty five years ago. Do you know how old I was twenty five years ago? Thirty six or no, four, twenty five minus fifty eight. We're all in the math equation of building. I remember he was little. He was like this, Okay, I remember I even

she was Yeah, I was thirty three years old. Yeah I was okay, she had a lot of Yeah, so thirty three. I don't even think I was a woman yet. A you're a woman at thirty three back then, I don't know cha had you always make a comment. You always have these comments out there in the field. I don't know, like the don't tell me what to do. I know what to do. Can everybody please tell Chad? We sometimes we've been in the business how many years?

Listen, I don't know everything, but when I speak, you know, I'm telling you I know what I know. Okay, because honestly, would you apologize for me the other day? Driving by a sight, remind me one of your neighbors. Oh, there's the ferns. What was it? Waite? Say that again? You said that was a fence that was going up in Gay Jean's house. That was a fence. What was actually going up in the backyard? You remember? Was this recently? Yeah? My

brain grapevine all that. Oh you mean when they put the wood up. Yeah, that's a fence. The other day. That was like eight nine months ago. Okay, and then they got in trouble because they built your life. We don't have to listen, we don't have to get technical with it right now. Okay, you said, yes it is, I said, I said the other day. My other day is different. Okay, Okay, listen, I'm changing my name out to how many times she says it. Listen, at the end of the day, we all have I

see Oscar's got kids in his business. Oscar again, you're how old? Okay? John, your son's getting into your business and you're how old? And he's how old? Okay? Which he's the latest he had the baby? How old is the baby now? Three? Okay? I'm year behind. I mean clockson. Okay, how old your son? Okay? So here is the rule how it's going to go. We're eventually got about ten years. If we're lucky, then we want to pass these companies down to

what our kids. Right. So the problem is is your kids are not going to make a living off my kids if Chad doesn't throw it into fifth gear, because then Samiela's left all by yourself out here. But Chad, we've we both women in my family. We've all taken votes that you are a man's man, and the guys like you right or wrong? Can you speaking to the speaker I'm over here, you're definitely right. Yep. Well, I'll take my flowers from everyone I like to work for good guys.

Right, you're a gentleman out there. Listen, how I run is I'll give you three strikes. You mess up out to that, I'm gonna pull the Cindy on you. Yeah yeah, but you'll hurt people. I don't hurt people. I just annihilate with their mouth. But as I see the way this is going right. For sure, Mikey wants to be part of this company, and Samantha and I hope chat right. I hope so too. But at the end of the day, I'm going to make this very

clear to everybody in the room. Actually we're on radio, but we're kind of having a meeting like back in the office. My feet and my boots need to be off the sites. If you want me to set us up for work for the next five years, I gotta get off the job sites. I can't micro manage the job sites anymore. That's it. Can't micro anybody anymore. Or we're going to run out of work eventually, and I'm going to move to Florida and I'm going to start to work down there,

and whoever wants to come down that Florida can come down. But I don't think you want to start now you say that, oh yeah, we're going in that direction. But we're gonna still keep this company over and then you told me no, no, no, No. That means I go back to golf and still do this. No, you could take off, go to fall like mom does for two months, we could still be I can't. Oh yeah, I got to go to break. Here. I'm City Stumple and you're listening to the Crazy Crew, the Stumpo Crew and w b

Z is Rare ten thirty and we will be right back. Sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston Wood Smaller Insurance, World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto Body. I've just written it all and welcome back to the Toughest Nails on w b Zena's Radio ten thirty and I'm here with everybody, Gomantha Child, Okay, wow, you guys think a bunch of like, I'll do it all right. We're here with j'are on, Oscar, Mike, Richie, Sammy clockson, Jason and Chad. Okay, now for the last segment,

right, because I'm always really crapping on you guys. Chad, you Getta's Digest version. No, I need to go last. You need to learn Reader's Digest version. Oh wait, you guys all to do that, but you don't do that. Go ahead, start with you, Sammy, what's your problem with me? You need to answer. When you tell me you're going to answer somebody, you have to respond to them. I am into stock you until you respond. But meanwhile, you brought tulips into me

tonight in the studio for stalking you. Yes, you do it? No? No, because she torched me for hours set me home last night, would you do sam? She didn't respond. Was going to oh yeah, So it's we're working on We're working on a major go ahead, go ahead, optical migraine. Okay, she tortured me. Okay, go ahead, clocks. I was just gonna say, listen, at least Chad feels bad about it when he tortures you. I mean, at least Sammy feels bad

about it. Chad doesn't, I know. Okay, So we haven't got to him yet, factually needs to work on his communication skills and wouldn't also, we're working on it. It's on me. You get you get a minute to fry me? Go ahead, you got one shot? Oh yeah, good, he needs more than a minute. What about me that you can't handle? Seemed like, get off front of the mic? Can you get on the micro? Thing to say? I just to answer more the text message. I have to answer your texts more. No, because you

only text about money. You come for money. It can be Monday and Wednesday, Friday, Thursday, No, no Friday, clockwork right there right? No, No, he's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays. There. I pulled up and the just the other day. Go what are you doing here? It's Monday. I come to say, Hi, I went f off. Get out of my pocket while I'm going to a meeting. I want to know clock some one thing if you could change about Cydney stumpo. Go ahead, you got a genie in the bottle. Change Yeah, one thing?

Nothing? Nothing really okay, Sure, I don't go there. We're gonna get to you. Mikey. You have one thing you can change after being here two years, if you want to make it another two years, be very careful loading question open, let's go. There's really nothing to change. You're just harsh and aggressive. But besides, that's not going to change. So I guess nothing to fear and aggressive. Yeah, but you love a lot. There's nothing. I wouldn't change a thing because the good comes

with the bad. If I tell you to stop being harsh and aggressive, then you won't love me as much, so I just take Oh, so I love it's just extremes like you. You're really harsh, really extreme, but you love more than anyone else. So you're just you're on. You're never in the middle. So on the opening when Jason says from another from another interview, we did back in the day, pretty much when you when she's not working, she's the greatest person. Is that lose your words?

You're still you're cool while you're working. You just you're dealing. No one does what they're supposed to do. Thanks for Jesus. With Zammy. He said, that's because she not her son. I got to deal with her afterwards. Okay, so you can't. So do you sometimes get thank you? John? You should be lucky, Chap. Do you sometimes get insulted when I talk condescending? Not anymore like you should? So we didn't talk. We do as adults. I've always been consistent. I've always been consistent

with it. Hold on, you know, you know I hold myself accountable, right so my nephew, maybe a couple of days later, whatever whatever it takes, Mike, Pat Jane, even I've said words to you that I resent regret, and I'm apologizing for that right now on air. Okay, on ear, I own it. But let me tell you something.

There's no butts with this. When I apologize, I apologize. All I'm asking you guys to do is before you ask me a question for the fifty one thousand times, just think and say, have I asked this question before you answer is yes? Hold on, simmy. If the answer is yes, don't ask me again. If I've all already answer the question. We've

been around long enough together decades. If you've got to answer the same question after hundreds and hundreds of thousands of square feet we've built together, well, sometimes we have to because you change your mind and think you said something, but you didn't relay the information. I was just about to say that you change your mind fifty times a week. That's why we asked the same question. You all remember both, and I think that's the only problem I had

with there. Well, we had a meeting. We had a meeting, and Mike, unfortunate you weren't here, but it was meeting like almost close to four to three and a half, right before COVID started, right as COVID, right before COVID and I had you all come to the office. I said, whatever I say that doesn't sound nice, Ignore it because it's all hormone related. Now, it's not hormone related. My patience bucket is

empty. There's no more patience in the bucket. Okay, And don't tell me none of you are feeling that too, that your patience is going down as you get older. I just don't get how none of you get hurt by now. If you want an answer, and it's going to be dumb quest, don't ask at seven am. You ask at eight pm. She's a nicer person at a pm. How do you not know this? I'm sorry, I'm sorry always, Yes, I'm sorry you while working Gemini. If I want a nice answer, I text you at night. It's the

easiest way. How do you not know this by now? Yeah? If you if you text me at nighttime or call me, which you know we go lait at night sometimes. Yeah, what's the nine thirty? Right? But I will give you this right because you're not it's not the pressure cooker, right. You're getting me all day long while I'm under a pressure cooker. And even if your answer is I can't be there, just respond the non response makes her want to eat you alive. That's what you just say.

I know for a fact, Richie, if you want to change something, go ahead. You might want to pick the mic up to your mouth and your boobs are my problem with this? Goes up? Hunh Yeah, stop changing the master, bathrooms and kitchens after I pipe them in. No, make up your mind taking in an easy way. No, he's right, he's right. But that's what happens when you're a design builder. Listen, do you know what it costs me to change the lumber? Of course,

but I don't care. I don't care. I want those houses to be perfect. To me, what I say is perfect. I went to Chad in Smith's house and perfect. The door was not sented. Chad's like, Mom, I don't think anybody's gonna see it, really, Chad, Somebody hold up a piece of tre piece of metal. Do you see it now? The minute you put the trim on boom, you're gonna see the door's not scented. Rip it out, take the rubber off the deck. But it's gonna cost so much money. It is what it is. I

was in Florida when this house is being framed. It was eleven inches, but I will not accept more than a quarter of an inch. I will quarter of an inch. That's it. That's rule of thumb. And then we have the window on the other back of the oscar. Talking about Cindy, I texted her last week and say we're all done with the rough at Botsford. And then I come in Monday morning, I see the whole place refrained. I'm like, what just happened? Because she walked in the building

and she wanted to get rid of all the softening. No, no, the headers. Okay, I built a modern house and his headers. Okay, wait now hold on, uh we did today. Oh so proud of you guys on the wall. Let me be better. Texting for a final inspection tomorrow. If you want to go to insulation clocks, if you want to be insulat on Friday, somebody text Bawn right now to get him get

a final tomorrow, get a rough inspection so we can get oscar. You've been with us the shortest time you came in because why it was a lucky moment of your life. I think I was ready to retire exactly. So Mike, let me, let me, let's bring us back. Mike Garbelle was with me for thirty years. Love him. But Mike came to me and said, I'm ready to retire, Cindy, I'm taking on small jobs.

Ask a perfect timing, which she didn't feel guilty calling you, putting you with me, and it's for magical the last seven houses we've done together magical. Yeah. And he was great, you know, trying to show me the ropes and getting started with you guys. But that's the way you do it. It's called loyalty. When he was ready to step out, then he got he got replaced, which was great. John. What do you have to say real fast? Because we go to chat, then we're

gonna have to go to break Uh. Basically, like you said, a lot of times, you change things a lot and I have to move doc work, ripping out. That's about it just changes. Oh your personality. I know your personality. God, I mean thirty five years. You know you know what she says to me. I think it's like a marriage. Is that I want to divorce? Can I get one to you? Got ten seconds? I want to say? Is just you know remember what you say? That's all no other than that you're a perfect person. I love

you more. You should record that. This is Sidney stuff. We listen Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty, and I want that played, replayed, overplayed, and I'll take it, and I'll take a bonus to take you. Please the backstead and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty. There is a reason I'm playing that song. The reason is very clear. For all you builders out there listening that spire and everything

I do. You reach out to one more my guys, You reach out to one more subcontractors or my vendors and try to go behind my back and steal my designs and steal my guys. I'm coming at you, buddy, okay, and I'm going to tell you real fast. You got the last call, right, We got the last call we did, and you strain that right out right. The loyalty is to stumble. That's it. And that was the email you wrote. I worked a stumpo and his answer back

with is she owned everybody. No, I'm loyal and I expect it back from every one of you guys. That's when my only demand and command all these years, So all you builders stop doing it. Yourself and stay away from my guys. You are listening to Cindy Stumpo Toughest Nails WB's News Radio ten thirty and have a great, safe weekend.