In this Mother’s Day interview with Emily's Mom, Roni Arnold, we dive into a parent's perspective on deconstruction. We get into the nitty-gritty of what it's like to navigate when faith shifts in a family. Roni shares how she came to faith in Jesus later in life and what it feels like to have a daughter who no longer identifies as a christian. She lets us in on how she often disagreed with the Evangelical beliefs she came across and felt grieved that Emily absorbed the more high-demand elements...
May 17, 2024•2 hr 1 min•Season 3Ep. 9
We cover so much good stuff in this Q&A on Heather’s coming out as a lesbian! After sharing the timeline of processing her queerness in Part 1, Heather answers anonymous listener questions, like: How she realized she was a lesbian and not bi (it was a PROCESS and we walk through it all) How this relates to her former stories she’s shared about sex with men, masturbation, and leaving the church Advice on how to come out when you have religious trauma How she knew she was into women How her pa...
Apr 29, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Season 3Ep. 8
In this fun-filled interview with Emily, Heather tells the story of thinking she was straight for her whole life until one fateful comment on a YouTube video led her to question everything. She talks about exactly how she realized she was into women and not into men (despite a long list of ex-boyfriends), an electrifying first kiss, an exciting jump into the queer dating scene, and the joys and pains of coming out as a lesbian. In true Heather fashion, she busts out her journal to share a vulner...
Apr 22, 2024•1 hr 25 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Emily and Heather dive into some nitty-gritty details about how we moved past the shame around our own sexualities. (Get ready for some very candid sex stories…) We discuss coming home to our own bodies and our own sexual ethic, how our parents handled sexual curiosity, and the awkward encounters we had along the way. For the first time, Emily discusses her journey with thinking she was asexual, how she realized she wasn’t, and how she had to start over on establishing her own sexual values afte...
Apr 15, 2024•1 hr 52 min•Season 3Ep. 6
It’s a purity culture grab bag! We cover purity messaging we are glad to have left in the past, how purity culture impacted our relationships, and how we’re navigating our sexualities now. It seems past sexual partners aren't what haunts us, it's Purity Culture itself! We dive deep on how we were determined to follow the rules set before us by evangelical Christianity, and the differing ways we dealt with that. Whether we were “struggling with sexual sin,” going all the way, crying after masturb...
Apr 08, 2024•1 hr 30 min•Season 3Ep. 5
Whip out your Bibles, Baddies! In this post-Easter episode, Emily and Heather dive into the resurrection story with their deconstruction glasses on. Heather did some digging on the details that don’t align in the gospel narratives of Easter, from who was there to what time of day it was to where Jesus went afterwards. She shares how she ignored any discrepancies as a Christian but can now look at it with honesty and thoughtfulness as she decides what she thinks of it all. We engage in a candid b...
Apr 01, 2024•1 hr 41 min•Season 3Ep. 4
Christianity messed with our minds, and we get into it! We ask ourselves the question: Did our mental health get better or worse after leaving the church? And how was it when we were in the church? Emily describes how a lot of her anxiety is night-and-day better because the burden of Christianity is lifted, and discusses how her faith was intertwined with her OCD. Heather talks about how her anxiety actually got worse in some ways after leaving, because she no longer had a God to dump all her wo...
Mar 25, 2024•1 hr 43 min•Season 3Ep. 3
Emily and Heather wince and crack up as they read from journals they devoted themselves to as Christian tweens, Biola students, Saddleback staff members, and more. Enjoy their cringey entries, ranging from "Daddy God" prayers to mission trip insights to frenetically anxious prayers. You'll hear how Emily was guilty about all her doubts about God and often wondered if she was honoring God enough through her homework. Heather renewed her broken purity vows over and over, and proves in her journal ...
Mar 18, 2024•1 hr 49 min•Season 3Ep. 2
Do we still believe in God? Let's chat: losing belief, spiritual encounters, and leaving the church "just to sin"! Emily introduces the new co-host of CGGB and former guest, Heather Leith. We talk about where we've been since the listeners last heard from us and spill the tea on why Lauren is no longer hosting. Heather comes out as an atheist! She explains how she went from identifying as a progressive Christian back in Season 1 to now being a big, bad ex-Christian. She discusses how digging int...
Mar 11, 2024•1 hr 55 min•Season 3Ep. 1
Back in June 2022, High Noons in-hand, we recorded this episode with Tate and Katy, who were not "The Logans" at the time, but have since gotten married which is SO FUN. This conversation was too important to leave in the gmail archives, so one day in April 2023, Emily decided it was time to move this to the top of her to-do list and get this out to the world. We want you to hear their stories, both individually and together, about journeying through adolescence as queer kids in the south, navig...
Apr 27, 2023•1 hr 52 min•Season 2Ep. 3
We asked Deconstruction Expert & Guide, Phil Drysdale, YOUR questions. Dive into the Q&A portion of our conversation with him! And if you're wanting to learn more from Phil, head to www.phildrysdale.com . He's got a plethora of resources and education and memes to offer you. Enjoy! Be a Baddie with us on social media! Instagram | TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
Jun 28, 2022•49 min•Season 2Ep. 2
Back in July 2021, we had the pleasure of chatting with researcher and guide for those deconstructing their faith, Phil Drysdale, about all things deconstruction. If you're navigating your faith shifting and you've gone to the Internet for solace, you've probably come across one of his posts, memes, YouTube videos, online community, etc. He's doing it all! From data around the deconstruction phenomenon to the psychology of what's happening in the minds of those who stay and those who expand beyo...
Jun 27, 2022•1 hr 37 min•Season 2Ep. 2
WE'RE BACK BABY! Recorded on Good Friday, April 15, 2022, we shared all about what's gone down in the last year of our lives. You'll see why we took a bit of a little break from podcasting and learn where we're both at now, locationally and spiritually. (We ask for your ~grace~ on the audio quality & whatever that damn thumping is! We did our very best by ourselves LOL - without our previous mixing man - but have since found someone that's going to make these sound WAY BETTER.) Be a Baddie w...
Jun 13, 2022•1 hr 4 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Lizzo Lover, Educator, and Child of Peruvian immigrants, Melany del Carpio-Garrett, grew up in predominantly white spaces that signaled to her she might be a little different. She learned to fit in, but always carried a larger view of the world due to her family’s rich culture. When studying at a predominately white Bible university, she wrestled with Calvinism as a principle theology of the university. In light of the doctrine’s rigidity, she could not reconcile these ideas with who she was, wh...
May 17, 2021•1 hr 40 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Roge "Toots" Rupp is back! Well not technically back...this is simply Part Two of a 3-hour long conversation. When we got going on things like what doesn't work for us about current church services, how 2020 majorly shifted us, how faith got monetized, and how the church made loving people way too complicated, we couldn't stop talking. And then Roge went on to give us such a gracious deep dive into how white folks need to wake up and do something about white supremacy in this country, and that's...
May 09, 2021•1 hr 25 min•Season 1Ep. 9
History enthusiast, social justice activist, compelling story-teller, badass Grandma, Roge Rupp, offers a raw, genuine, enlightening glimpse into her story as a Black woman in America and in the white Evangelical church. While sharing her honest, heart-wrenching stories of navigating things like homelessness, miscarriage, racism, and ideas put on her about what a good Christian woman should look like, she graciously educates us on things like The Slave Bible , the origins of Black churches in Am...
May 03, 2021•1 hr 36 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Anthropology and Archaeology expert, Missy Snell, brings a fascinating, fresh, zoomed-out perspective to her faith in Christ. As a self-described outsider to Evangelicalism, she shares her compelling journey of faith with unhindered autonomy and humble confidence, while effortlessly throwing around terms like Homo Erectus and Denisovans in a way that'll make you wish she was your freshman-year science teacher. She invites us into her curiosities in college about Adam and Eve, her growing adorati...
Apr 27, 2021•1 hr 48 min•Season 1Ep. 7
Chicago-based actor, activist, and host of The Blckchelorettes , Victoria Price, gives us an honest look at her faith journey, sharing about what it's been like to be a Black woman in White Evangelical spaces, how she's clung to God in the midst of grief, how she found freedom to pursue acting as a woman of faith, and much more. She offers a deeply personal look into her shifting faith and her sifting through of things like racism in her faith communities, the loss of her father, navigating roma...
Apr 19, 2021•2 hr 1 min•Season 1Ep. 6
Round 2 with Heather Leith because well, we were on a roll and wanted to keep that conversation train a-chuggin'. We kick it off with some mission trip memories and our musings on the problematic nature of said travels. We turn a corner into Full-Time Ministry, and dive deeper into the shame, dissociation, and internal struggle of navigating all the religious rules we were under and required to impart to others. This leads into a whooole thing on modesty and more unpacking of that good ol' Purit...
Apr 12, 2021•2 hr 4 min•Season 1Ep. 5
We invited our dear friend from college, Mark Nesbitt, to share his story, and talk with us about all things sexuality, Christian Conservatism, his shifting theology, and what it was like to be a Pastor's Kid who knew he was gay. Mark graciously offers a very open-book look at his story, from his days of French-kissing girls in the janitor's closet at church to the time he came out on Instagram, all the way to his current hot take on Evangelicalism. (He may or may not call it a cult...Don't say ...
Apr 05, 2021•1 hr 46 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Emerging from a 2-year sabbatical to ensure that anger and pain wouldn’t lead her narrative, Nurse, Pastor, and Professor Beth K. Schwartz makes her podcast debut on Church Girls Gone Bad. During her time at Fuller, she found herself in a mid-life faith crisis, asking: “Is there a support group for people who have lost God in seminary?” After years of healing from her harmful Evangelical history, she now carries the belief that the Divine led her to and through this spiritual awakening. She offe...
Mar 29, 2021•1 hr 16 min•Season 1Ep. 3
Church Girls Gone Bad group text member, Heather Leith, joins us to discuss alllll sorts of things. We start out with the one question that will catalyze all our conversations from here on out on the pod, and then we go for a wild ride from there, discussing things like purity culture, full-time ministry, following rules, and learning to give yourself permission. You'll hear us get real honest about sex before marriage, masturbation, therapy, anxiety, the inner turmoil we had working at a church...
Mar 22, 2021•2 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 2
Hey there! Allow us to introduce ourselves. In this intro, we're giving you a glimpse into how these once all-in church kids ended up as the hosts of a podcast called Church Girls Gone Bad. You'll better understand how and when our faith started falling apart and hear us dive into things like: cheesy AIM screen-names, christian contracts, celebrity church culture, 2020 chaos, codependency, and more. You'll come out the other side understanding why we've got a lot of evangelical baggage we need t...
Mar 15, 2021•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 1
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