The Black Moods (band)

Um, but I was really trying to get the front man and if I could come in here and do a couple songs and do an interview and then the manager said, wrote back and said, Hey, we're having the whole band show up. So I was like, sweet. The more the merrier.

And somebody told me that, Oh, there's a band called the block moods and they're actually local in Phoenix. So I listened to them. The first song I think might've been, can't sleep at night , um, was instantly hooked. And I've been a fan of her since seeing them in concert more times than I can count. And , uh, I think they're a great band. I think you guys will , um, think that as well. If you like rock music, if you don't like rock music then it's probably not your cup of tea.

But if you like rock , um , this is probably one of the better new bands out there right now I think. And um , they put on, like I said, they put on a great show as well, so, and they got good stories too. They've, they've, they've been around for awhile . They've had a lot of interesting things happen. I mean you think about being in a rock band, traveling. I mean there's all sorts of things that can happen. So I hope you guys enjoy this interview and the live songs as well.

Okay. I'm here now with the black moods in studio. Do you guys want to maybe just each introduce herself since there's three of you?

Or are you dating her or did you date her or I know are kind of, well, I didn't know that until I started doing my research and then I found this article and it was like his girlfriend Natalie. I was like, wait, what there, I felt really stupid. I didn't know that. Yeah, they're great. They're a good band. Yeah, no, I definitely, that's all I have them on. Um, so Josh, you are actually born and raised in Wheaton, Missouri. Can you tell us about Wheaton ? Missouri?

Yeah, it's small town, like 600 people, you know, lots of churches. Um , no stop lights or stop is a couple of stop signs. Right . Um , but your dad was in a band, so that's kinda how you grew up with music. I grew up, my dad was , uh , actually my dad, my uncle in the same band, and then , um, they , uh, I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought. Yeah .

So , um , and they played all, they were like the bigger band and because there's like the four state area was like, yeah , you know , uh , Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas. And so that's kinda there . And they went and made a record in Nashville and this is like all through the eighties and early nineties. They played. And then once I got to where I could hold my own plane, he started playing in our band. Oh wow. He was my drummer up until I moved out here and met Chico.

Oh , I didn't know that. Okay . That's , that's annoying . Yeah. And then cause you started, you took piano lessons, but I only lasted a couple of weeks and then.

That's pretty damn young. Wow. Yeah . Very cool. So, and then Jordan, you're from Toledo, Ohio. I don't know a lot about your background other than you're from Toledo. So what, how did you get into music like

I did, like I started doing like guitar chords and he taught me like GC and D , you know what I mean? And then I got a bass . I had a bass first for Christmas, but I was totally not interested in at all. And then , um, after I learned some chords on guitar, actually went back

Yeah. But you also lived in Portland? Yeah, for about three years when , uh, when my son was first born, we moved up to Portland and uh, I loved it, but I couldn't stand the rain, so I had to come from Seattle. So I know about that. Have you seen that Portlandia show? It's so great. But so tell me too about this. Like you were actually a former bank manager, so how did you, and you decided that's pretty ballsy. Just go, I'm a bank manager, I'm going to quit and play in a rock and roll band.

I'm like yeah , yeah. I used to work in mortgage and finance for for many years. Uh, and you know, had house and cars and a bunch of materials , stuff I didn't care about cause I was miserable. I just wanted to play music the whole time. So just one day said, no , I'm a, I'm going to do that. So you were kind of , you were playing with bands in the side or something and then you just finally said, I'm coming to the point where, cause I was still playing with Josh. Oh , okay .

It was time to start taking the show on the road. You know, we had to do that. I couldn't do that on the weekend . We'd made a record, we made our first record and I was like, okay, well we made an album. We're not going to just sit here and Tempe or Scottsdale and play the same bars. We got to go. And so I was like, I , you know, we gotta make a move. And so he said, all right , let's do it. And so when did you, when were you a guitar tech for the gin blossoms then ? Was that before or after?

That was before cause I moved out here. But that was the back of the Missouri? No, I met, I actually met Robin Wilson from the Jim blossoms when he was playing in Missouri with his other band after the Jim blossoms. And so he told me if I was ever out in the Tempe, look him up, you know, cause he's got a studio and stuff. And so I wound up coming to school, going to school to conservatory of recording arts and sciences, and for my, you got to do an internship.

So I went and did my internship with him. And uh, he got, they got started playing shows again as the blossoms and they took me out. Okay . So that was a 2000 and I don't know, four , but wasn't there. I thought there was a story about how, like you saw like a sign that was advertising for the guitar and you recognize his handwriting?

No , what happened is , um , in Missouri I took , uh, the guys that I was playing with in a band back there, we all went to see his show in the band, the gas giants. And so afterwards we were, I got say I got to sell this or I didn't get to meet him. And I was really disappointed in that. And so when he was, when we left the venue, I was walking down the sidewalk and I turned to look and he's standing inside the this glass window thing , smoking a cigarette.

So I was just like, Hey, yeah , I just stuck my head in there and I was like, Hey, I just had to tell you I'm huge fan and the gym blossoms. It means so much to me. And he kinda like rolled his eyes and you know, make some comment like, Oh , get the hell out of here or whatever. And uh , but we, but yeah, no, but he wasn't like that. He's just kind of , you could tell he was just, you know, they were playing, it's John CLA , this dive of a club.

And, and when I opened the door and stuck my hand in to shake his hand, he kind of saw the cute girl that I was with. And so he came out and started talking to us. And then , um, the singer in the band at the time was like, Hey, would you like to get stoned with this? And he was like, I would love to get stoned with you. So we got in our van, we got in our , on our VA band van at the time.

And we were , uh, we were just telling them what we want to do and he told us to go do everything but be in the music business cause it's terrible, you know? Right . She was right. But I wound up, but he did say, he's like, if you ever are in Tempe, Arizona, I looked me up. And so when I wound up going to school out here, everybody knew that I was a big Jim Lawson's fan. I was kinda trying to find him . And this is a before Facebook and all that kind of thing, you know.

And so , uh, I had went to long longs when it was still on mill Avenue and he was playing acoustic set, but they, he's like, stick around until the end and I'll give you my studio address and we'll , they ran me out because I wasn't 21 so 10 months go by and I'm getting ready to move to Nashville to do my internship. And on the, literally the last day of school, there was a flyer up at school, it was handwritten and it said, wanted a conservatory student from Missouri, smokey van required.

And it had this phone number on it and that's all. And so, and it said, call Robin Wilson. And I was like, Oh my . And I, all the guys at school are like, dude, there's this flyer up and it's gotta be for you. And I was like, nah. He's like, no way. And so I wound up calling it, well first I checked the riding with that of the riding from new miserable experience because he wrote the lyrics handwritten in the album. So I could , I did my forensics file stuff, I don't even get them signed.

And so I did and it was him and I called him and he was like, Hey, I was, you know, I've been looking for ya. And the first he's like, he'd been, he'd gotten other calls from other people like from Missouri I guess, and they didn't know . He's like, ah . So he quizzed me and he's like, no , he's like the guy I'm looking for. I said , uh , we got you. I said, you hit on my girlfriend and we got you stoned in our van. And he's like, yeah. Then after that I went out with him . Gotcha.

So then you guys formed black ones , was it 2012 does that sound about right? That's when the first record came out. How did you two meet them? Cause obviously Jordan didn't join till later, but um, you can, yeah, well Josh was working at Mayberry, which was the blossom studio at the time, Boston . And he had a drummer with him that he was, you know, just playing with it that time, who was my friend? And , uh , he was like, yeah, just not really working out with these guys.

Do you want to audition? So I did. And the audition was terrible. Awful. Yeah. It was really bad. I think the other two guys in the band weren't even in town. They had some family thing they had to go handle back in Missouri. So it was me and another friend of mine that can barely couldn't play guitar, bass for it that well. So , uh , yeah. And I just studied was studying music , um , like jazz and Latin.

So I didn't even have my, it was like he'd just been reading the books and hadn't actually grabbed the sticks yet.

And , uh, we did some stuff around town and you know, when like , uh , best new times ban Bennington was like a huge fan. Really . I don't , I don't get it , but yeah , we were awful. So we had to wear dresses and people thought that was cool. So there's talks of a reunion show is , uh , now they all have to wear girdles with their dresses. Okay . Sign this , this , you must have been serious about this too then. So Jordan used to be in a boy band.

I think we might've made that dress thing was really a lot of jokes. Maybe back in the day when I was, you know what? So the black moods

And we try to find other artists and bands and you know, that we, you know, that we [inaudible] out now we can, you know, it's kinda like trying to find some bands that we can tour with, you know , compatible and yeah. So and you would describe the sound is modern classic rock or emotionally, I forget who calling that. I don't think that's genius. Yeah . It's of like backer or modern . What does it emotionally,

You said your , one of your most difficult moments was leaving a business relationship that you had worked really hard to get, but as soon as you started that you knew right away it was bad for you. Do you remember what that was about? Like a management thing? Oh yeah. Well I mean we were, I just don't think they knew what to do with this cause we got in bed with them with a label like century medium , which is more of a metal label, you know. And so like most of their bands are similar.

You know, there's like the girl lead singer has lots of makeup, like, and then they played the tracks and it's like , um, industrial road hadn't dropped. It's like invisible . Like they hell they can't play without smoke machine . Not that they can't blow that song.

Just kind of that the visual aesthetic and where we were just a three piece rock and roll band right there, you know, writes stone songs, don't play the tracks, just, you know, we can play anywhere, you know, and they just know how to market that. Or you know, they went through, we were with him for, I don't know how long, a couple of years . And all they kept saying to us was, you're not a radio band. You're not a radio band. You're not a radio band.

And we're like, Whoa. And like, well then what's the , you know, well then what are you guys supposed to be doing then ? You know, because it didn't make sense to us. And so once we did get out of that situation, which we want, we thought we wanted that situation. And then when you're in that situation, you're like, how do we get out of this situation? Right. So that took a while .

You know, cause we were, we were playing with the male , you know, with the big dogs and just, you know, they'd put you on a back burner or something and you're not as important and so, and you can't make moves without them . Yeah. You can't . Yeah . And then you'd make them , you wouldn't hear back from them . And so you're like, we gotta do something. We can't sit on our hands.

And then they get pissed because you made this decision when you've sent out 25 emails over the past month trying to get them to reply. Right. So again, we don't hold any grudges. It was just once we got out of that situation, we knew it was just off , you know, it wasn't good for us. And then here we are, three singles later in the billboard. Top 40. Yeah, I guess we are radio buttons . Awesome. Very cool. I'm very happy for you guys. It was really exciting to see that growth.

Cause I , I've been a fan before the radio and then I was like, well I'm seeing like your song on the radio charts. It's really exciting. So obviously lots of ups and downs times where it , you said that times where you have like a lot of money and then times where you have no money. Yeah, that's it's , it is, it comes and goes man. It comes and goes. Yeah. So it's the heart . The thing to keep in mind is like to know it's the roller coaster ride. It's going to have its peaks and valleys .

So you're going to , you know, when you're in those valleys, it's hard to remember those peaks. Right? You can't one without the other. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And you'd said that you , you guys would travel in that van and you slept in the van in the grocery store, parking lots, and sometimes you make 200 bucks a gig and sometimes it's like 10,000. Yeah, it varies. It varies. Depends on like the stage of the show, you know what I mean?

So what's the smallest show that you can remember? I was almost the first one of the tour in July last year. Right when we played that place in Utah. It was like salt Lake city backyard . Yeah. We're like, Oh my God, what is going on? And it was like a , it was a Sunday in Utah and it was the first night of the tour or something like that. And it was a , it was like somebody's backyard with a stage, but it's like a famous place like Jimmy world. Like , um, uh, gosh, it was my morning jacket.

A bunch of these bands have played through there, but it was like, it looked like an abandoned playground. It really did. That's so funny the way like, yeah. And the thing was he didn't even the shit with the pedophiles, it was crazy in them. And you IOB yeah , it was a BYOB and they didn't tell anybody. So we had fans that came in, you know, not a lot because it's Sunday in Utah who wants to go there on Sunday anyway, but Sunday no water, no beers.

And so like, so we've got our cooler out and I was like, Hey, you know, here's our beers. I guess we prepared to , cause they're going to Utah so we got alcohol on the other side, state line. We've been there before . Beer, they're not real beer. It's like 2% I think we one time we played almost 40 bucks for a 12 pack and he was just like how does this make any sense at all? Wow, we shouldn't charge that day.

And you can't have more than one drink in your hand at the same time or I don't think you can order like two beers like you can . You can't get a beer at a shot or can't . Yeah , you have to finish the drink that you have before they give you another number . When I was driving there , I went to Outback steakhouse. I went to the bar and there no alcohol in the bar. The bar is like in the, or the drinks are in the kitchen.

I don't know if they've changed that, but you couldn't like see the drinks you, she had to go get prepare my beer in the kitchen. That was the weirdest insanity. I don't even little drink . If they want to do , that's what's going to happen. They're going to find ways even kill strange. Yeah . So anyways, what's that sound sounds, it sounds like an interesting show is interesting. And then so was one of the biggest and most awesome shows that you played. You talked about Mexico on your birthday.

Was that one of the best or is there, that was the one said , yeah, that was like six thousand five thousand something like that. But a Rocky point. Mexico or Roger Klein circuits mix session . It just happens that it won't , it's not this year, but the past couple of years it's, my birthday is June 8th and so it's always on that weekend. And so I always just make the big joke of, Hey, thanks for throwing me this birthday party. You know that every year. Yeah , we have it . Okay .

And I think we're going to do it again this year, but not January jam. [inaudible] no , no, I saw you there year. You got up on say you guys weren't there but Josh was there. That's when I just just jammed woke to , Oh , I woke up and I was like, I want to go to Mexico. We got back from like a run, like a tour and like the like the next day, I actually think it was a few days afterwards cause I didn't hear from him. I was like, I wonder what Josh is doing.

And like I didn't get any messages back and forth like days and he was like, Oh, I'm in Mexico. And I'm like, what ? And he's like, Oh, I left. Like right when we got back, we had it , we had a couple of times , turns into studio a and I , we were just kind of there. And I looked at Dan and I said, you guys ever been in a man ? You boys like Mexico, man, that's fun. No, I'm going to January gym this year. Go . Should be a bar. Are you going to go this year? You're gonna we gotta go to decision.

We've got to go to Nam . We're going to be an Ana Anaheim, that's an Anaheim . Oh , okay. That's cool. I'm going to go to that some year . So obviously like we said, your songs had been on the radio, but did I hear you say that one of the local rock radio stations won't play your songs? Well, they have not that they won't, they just haven't yet. It's still have , even though it's national bonnet . Um, yeah, the last day of the year it's 6:00 PM, which is cool .

They made their list of 98 top, top, top 98 songs of 2019 and they spun us, which was cool. Yeah. But that was the only time. Yeah. I mean so far. Yeah . So far. Hopefully it hopefully that it's the beginning of a new year, you know, there are other local stations that have been playing the moods. Yeah . KWSS was just , it was just great to us. Um, but um, and we haven't went to alternative radio yet. Uh, which is like 93. Yeah. 93 93 three. Yeah. So , um, but um, does that piss you off though?

That it's like, cause there's kind of a big rock station and you guys are local, like you guys are doing well. Frustrating because um, uh, you know, Tucson's playing his Flagstaff's playing his Vegas is playing is but not Phoenix, you know, so, but hopefully that'll change, you know. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. Cause three of the songs have charted so it's not like, yeah , it's not like they're obscure underground if AODA .

Yeah. If they'd play, I said probably help us move up in the [inaudible] we're at 33 I think this week. So we need to, we need to top 20. Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah. Is it based on how many stations play you when they do those charts are in the spins that they do? Oh, and how many times it's kind of confusing. Yeah, it sounds like. Yeah. And then the whole Spotify thing that you guys were just explaining to me before, that's even more of a, yeah, I think we got our check for 002 cents.

And Jeremy, well, one of the cool things that you guys have gotten to do , um , but being in a rock band is like perform with other artists that are really like obviously your big doors fan and you actually got to perform with Robby Krieger and Flagstaff. Was that the first yeah, that was the first time I think was flag.

Yeah, it was and uh, yeah, cause we just did like a string of dates with them, you know, and uh, for the door's 50th anniversary and he actually had his son out with him singing and he just got, and it was like a blizzard, you know, I thought they were gonna cancel this year , they're going to cancel it. But um , Oh , so it's winter in Flagstaff house is this time of year, like two years ago.

So , um, they asked me if I could sing a song and I was like, ah, yeah, I guess, you know, and Robbie's the nicest guy. And then, Oh, that's cool . We'd got to do it in a marquee theater here in Tempe, Arizona too. That was nice. Oh, and we just , San Diego. Yeah , I did all , I did three dates with him I think singing. Do you guys have you have kind of a relationship with him now then?

But yeah, I sent him the song and he dug it.

Cause the way when they come off stage, he's gonna walk right by us . So I'm like, okay, yeah, all right , this is gonna be awesome. And they kicked ass and it was great. Show sounds of thousands of people and they turn around and I didn't have my pass on me. Well this is our first couple of days on the tour, so I didn't want get s colded for not having my p ass b ack s tage. S o I was like, Oh shit, I g otta go get my pass.

And so I ran t o the dressing room real quick and I got there, I realized it was around my neck and I r an back and I'm laughing, he's laughing c ause Coverdale came by a nd talked with h im for a little bit and then left.

Oh my God. Like we got two songs in and I'm just sweating and, and the crew luckily was there so great. And on top of it they went over and grabbed Navarro's amp and wheeled it over and I plugged right into it and we were often running. Wow. And we kicked ass. It was cool.

You know, I mean he's very anti, cause they, they've done it all themselves with that festival and everything. So as far as anything, the mainstream or the big labels, you know, he's, he's over those guys because they probably has a lot of money coming in just from that King of the Hill theme song. Right. Turn they play that don't , I don't know about all that and how that works. Um, but I'm sure you know, just the fact that helps that spreads the yeah, the word cause everybody knows that.

Yeah , that's a good song. So I'm not sure if you've seen that documentary. It's kinda like a docu series on Rick Ruben or if you're familiar with who he is. So I haven't producer, it's really fascinating how he plays a role with the artists. Like he takes them to this house and he's just, he's very like hands off with them. Now you work with the producer Jim Kauffman or is he Jimmy K ? Is that what I was Johnny K and John . Jim Kauffman , Jim coffins.

He did our first two records and Johnny K just did the one that's getting ready to come out with Johnny K. okay. Yeah. So he's produced some pretty big artists. Like, can you explain like how his role is on like his influence on the song? Like explain what he does cause it sounds like producing music is, it could be like really hands on or really hands off. So yeah, he's definitely a hands on. He's like, okay , sleeps , it's a studio with this.

And you know, like we work until we can't work anymore and they will make you work some more. You know, he doesn't let it pass. If he doesn't like it, he'll get up out of his chair and he'll go out in the live room and be like, okay let's work on this. I mean, they change the arrangements, kind of give him a songwriting credit. Like does he do that much? Yeah , it depends on song always. You know , there's songs where he hasn't touched it.

He likes and there's songs where he's like, this could be, this could be stronger, you know, like you know, and he keeps it , uh , very uh , I hate using the word organic cause it seems like to slap that on everything, just sell it these days, but very just like the bare bones of the essence of what the band is. So we're not sitting there, you know, layering over dubs and getting away from what the three of us sound like playing together.

No , and that's what I like is that it sounds, it is, it's like almost stripped down. It is. And it's in our studio. We recorded there because we visited all the nice studios in Phoenix and, and he's got, I mean there's some in Nashville that we could've went to in California, but the vibe of our own rehearsal studio thing is just cool. And so we just, he moved his gear into our studio and we made the record in a garage. Yeah. Cause like Bella Donna song.

Can you explain, like how do you get that opening riff that that kind of sound is, it's very sixties ish kind of echo ish. How do you, how do you do that? How does that sit in my fingers baby? Yeah . Even the delay. Is that something that he did he was kind of pushing for or no, he had it right . Uh , cause normally in the past we've spent like hours going through guitars and trying different amps and trying this and that. And he came in and I said, what do you want to use on this?

He said, your guitar, you want , you usually play with live, use that. And so we just did what, you know, what we'd been rehearsing and it , uh , and it worked. That's what , that's my, that's my um, everyday tone. Yeah. Yeah. That's very cool. So yeah , I've got some fun stuff too that some of the stories that I dug up on you guys, you actually went to a, no, this is fun. It's just fun stuff. Like you went to a school and you talked to kids on career day. Do you remember this?

Yeah. Yeah. So they, it's interesting though, like when you said, yeah, we actually play our own instruments unlike Drake and then the kids like booed you probably, but then you played the song, I think you won him over. Great. And that , what our thing is , uh, it was career day here, it was just Chico and I that day.

And we're, we live in a , with two grown adult men living in a van traveling across the United States and on career day the kids, like there's doctors and the firefighters and the kids are so into what we were doing. See the firefighters being like you. Yeah, these guys go and save people's lives. We ruined people's lives sometimes. It was just so, it was just crazy. You bring joy and entertainment. That's cool. So what did, do you have a message for them ?

I didn't see it cause I , I think they just showed little clips of it. The message is, you know, do what makes you happy and work hard and yeah, cause I mean Chico , you worked at a bank and you could have made a lot of money but it wasn't what made you happy. So that's a great thing. A lot of money. And I hated it. Oh you didn't make a lot of I Oh yeah, it was doing great, but I wasn't doing great. Right.

Yeah. And then there's a story of when you guys were playing in Austin on a rooftop on sixth street and the crowd wasn't really responsive so you decided to turn your speaker...

And I just looked at him immediately and I said, I was just, I know all the color went out and I'm like, and we looked over the side and that speaker was just dangling. It was still plugged in . Oh my God .

And uh, um, and he's like I said, you grabbed the backpack side . No, she sure. And he goes out there and like, they're gone shit. So these crack heads just walk by and, well , and I asked the cops when we turn it in, I can't say we didn't take anything else. And he said, well, if we saw some crack running around at four in the morning with guitars, we're more likely to stop them . And if they're having backpacks or whatever.

So obviously he probably hadn't, hopefully you had insurance for that then . Yeah, we did. Was there anything like songs written though ? I'm like , yeah, I mean, ah , there was lots of stuff. Yeah. And the thing is they probably , they didn't know. They don't know half of what they got in there because I had two sets of inner monitors that are like 800,000 bucks a piece, but they're custom molded so they can't wear them anyway. You know. So yeah, that's annoying. Um , and then one violating.

I hate that my house got broken in , in North Phoenix. That's why I moved to sky . That's why I'm surprised that happened in Scott's . I thought Scouts I was a little more safe than we , I think we all do crazy, but I guess it could happen anywhere. So , um , and then you guys had a management company that put you on a diet where you , you couldn't have carbs or beer, so then, but you started drinking vodka. So it was I suppose a good idea. Big mistake. Yeah. Well yeah , yeah.

They were just like, cause there's photo shoot things just stay off the carbs for a month. And we like beer 10 pounds. And we did, we did. But we also thought , yeah , we're all , cause we drink latte . Like we were drinking beers. And that just does not ever end well. Oh , okay. Wow. So now you're back to beer then? Yeah. Well you know, occasionally you know who whiskey, well speaking of booze you have your own wine would coincided with the single Belladonna. Um, so tell me about that.

How'd you get involved in the wine ? That's pretty, that's can be pretty lucrative, right? I mean Sammy Hagar sold his uh , alcohol company for like what, $1 billion or something.

It's the only thing you have to go and it's on that , you know, it's in its infancy. It was good for like, it's good for gifts like Thanksgiving, Christmas time last year and this year it's always good. And then , uh , when we released the album in the springtime , we're going to have a shot nay or a Pinot Grigio. White wine. People get that. They can they get on the website or just go to our website because I couldn't find it . The grocery store.

I'm like, is it a total wine at least or no , not yet . It's just for announcers on her website. Okay. And then your latest single what you got? I almost hear like kinda like an eighties fun party rock vibe. And am I off on that? Yeah, it's definitely , um, it's definitely party rock for sure. Yeah , it has some of that, like it's not to be taken seriously. That's fun songs . Yeah, for sure. It's just something that you know, the peoples can stick their asses to .

Yeah. No it's definitely , it's a good song. And so are you guys gonna it seems like that's what the third single and then it's the album coming out late. Cause I , at one point I thought I heard it was coming out in August or the fall or something and now it's moved. It's just timing to get it done. And then we were on tour like this whole year. So it's like it was super hard cause we did that whole record and pieces. Right. Two or three songs at a time over two years.

So is there a date tentative date now though? Or just April. April. Okay. Cool. And what we'll do is we'll [inaudible] see how well what you got does on the charts and then we're going to release another single called the sunshine , um, title track off the album. And that'll be the title track as well as the name for the new wine. Cool. I can't wait. That'll be fun. You guys played a breast cancer awareness show a few years ago, and this is a funny story to your , your bass players.

It wasn't, I don't think it was you. I think it was a different bass player. The pain , his pants split right before you went on stage. Do you remember that? And he didn't have anything underneath. And you didn't have anything else. Yeah. Duct tape. Just power jobs . You had to duct tape them crazy. Oh my God . Well, so I always like to end on a charity. So I dunno if breast cancer awareness is the thing that you guys want to talk about or if there's something else. Well, go on your mind.

Um , my mom, she had to go through all that and so that was tough. Yeah. Both of our moms did that. Uh, so that's, and then we also did , um, an Alzheimer's awareness thing too. Um , Oh, that was June, right? We did a whole deal. We did like , you know, merge and donated, that kind of thing to it. So, Oh, that's awesome. Very cool. And then Josh, you wanted to, you had one of your goals was to buy your mom a house. Have you been able to accomplish that or , or it happened yet? Yeah. Okay .

Working on that. Right. Very cool. Very cool. Well, you have upcoming shows. January 24th in Scottsdale, wasted grain and then March 7th in Wisconsin. Uh, yes. Are those the only two on the, we actually haven't tour. Oh , and number two at the end of this month. We just haven't announced it yet, but we'd gone for the whole month of February. Oh , okay. Awesome. Can't wait to see, look for that. Well, I'll definitely go to the January 24th show. All right .

Do you guys want to do some songs then since you're hearing instruments? Okay, cool.

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I hope you guys enjoyed that episode. It was, I think it was a lot of fun doing an interview with three people, a little bit challenging, but it was a lot of fun. And then hearing them live was just surreal to me. Having them here in my town home . So go to the black moods.com. Check out all their information for their back catalog, the new singles in any concert dates they have. If they're not coming to your town, I'd recommend doing a road trip or maybe even an airline trip to see them there .

They put on a great show. And as for me, I've got my podcast, season two going now we have some great guests lined up. If you haven't already, make sure you hit that subscribe button so you don't miss any of these episodes until then. A rock on. We'll see you next week.

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