I know I know, some people do not like Uncle Ted. And if you're a listener of the show, I totally understand if you want to skip this one, but honestly, this was one of the most fun episodes I've ever done. Ted is just a fountain of energy. And he's passionate about a lot of things. And he has great stories to tell like hanging with Keith Richards at Studio 54. So love him or hate him. Ted's an interesting guy. He's a successful guy. And he's a great guest to have on your
show. So my three goals for this episode were one to promote his new album, Detroit muscle comes out soon. Number two to convince some people who think Ted's a bad guy, that he's not so bad because he does a lot of cool charity work. And number three is going to have fun and hopefully not get canceled. And I think we succeeded all that stuff. Plus, Ted plays his guitar. He shoots his bow and arrow for us. It was good times enjoy
Well, can you believe? Can you believe I actually got this piece of shit Doric? Good. How are you Ted? I'm a managing a life of frenzied energy and wanting to share it with you, which will make a great podcast by the way. Oh, yeah,
I know. I can't wait. It's gonna be like a roller coaster. A little bit scary, but really exciting, too.
Yeah, let's do it. Start it now. You should have got that. I got it. No, I got Jade. Salutations are always the best moment.
Absolutely. Well, I want to start off I usually end each episode with a charity. I want to start off with a charity because I want to show everybody what a good guy you are. Tell me about all the charity work you do. I know one thing is the Ted Nugent camp for kids.
Where there's so many I mean, I'm almost like Mother Teresa with a Glock. I'm surprised I'm surprised my Halo can make it through the door jams. And that's JM BS and ja mz and JMS, because I'm a creative, adventurous guy. I don't go over the road less traveled. I go where there is no road, and nobody's ever traveled to Lewis and Clark wouldn't have sent saccade your way to where I was this morning. My point is, my point is, is that yes, I was raised to be the best that I can
be. Yeah. So you know, I didn't understand what charity work was when I graduated from the American anti education system. In fact, I was as mushy brain clueless dirtbag. No nothing guy that ever walked the earth, like, pretty much everybody that graduates from the American anti education forces. But it wasn't long before because I've always followed my instincts, and my mom and dad forced me it's called parenting 101 Discipline be the best that you can be to
get your ass kicked. Boy, wouldn't it be wonderful to return to those days. But anyhow, that effervescence in that positive spirit and attitude is alive and well in the Nugent camp. And so it was really a sucker punch, a beautiful, positive sucker punch. I think 1968 I, you know, radio world of rock and roll it was just becoming beyond just hit records. It was getting into deep track FM radio and doing interviews with artists. And I was being the only clean and
sober artist on the planet. My brain actually worked and I could form syllables not to be confused with Joe Biden. And so these guys would always they always asked me where I get my energy and my how I got my middle finger to stay on fire
like I do. And I'd always share with them soliloquy is and experiences in life that the Rock and Roll radio people and and even the mainstream media that I started doing as early as the late 60s, not my late 60s, the 1960s Um, I would always share with them my passion and my excitability. I don't know if you've noticed, but just since I've come on with yours, I'm 73 years old. I'm an excited, passionate, super dangerously
alive son of a bitch. And I think that's what God wants us to do with every gift of another day. So it was I was clueless I all my life revolved around the spirit of the wild my bow hunting nature's allure and fascination, in lessons of accountability. And to simplify that if you hunt with a bow and arrow if you have if you put forth an unaccountable step, there will be no reward because the animals will hear you coming. If you put forth a
conscientious step. The Great Spirit will reward you with close encounters with game and then if you apply your samurai spirit, to being one with God's miraculous creation, the ultimate reward is that you will be one with nature. The animals will present a shot and you'll have venison and the ecstasy in the celebration that goes with self sufficiency. This is quite an answer, but get ready for this. I was clueless about anything in life except The fascination with wildlife as a
bow hunter. The fascination with the electric guitar thanks to Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley in the Motown Funk Brothers and all this rageous unprecedented flurry and fury of new rhythm and blues gone electric rock and roll, and girls. So I was focused on the three trifecta of life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness. But we got a phone call at diversified management, Nick Kerris and now and Dave early on, I can't remember I can't believe I remember all these details, but actually when you're clean and sober, you can and, and there was a young man, he was my age. He was 19 he was dying of cancer. I was clueless to cancer. I I had no idea but terminal illnesses. I was immortal. I was like Bruce Lee with a Gibson. I was cocked locked and ready to rock the
Glock around the clock. Dr. Spock and the word got back to me that this young man was dying, he was terminally ill. And he had heard all my interviews celebrating nature and marksmanship being clean and sober, marked the discipline of trigger control and breathing and, and sniper discipline firearms training. And I'm the only guy that ever espoused and celebrated and promoted that in the Rock and Roll world or in any media world at that point.
And so he was lured, never having hunted never having fired a gun, that before he died. He wanted to spend a day with Ted Nugent, learning about archery and hunting. Well that you know, I'm on a high velocity trajectory with Amboy Dukes playing every night and cultivating, practicing rehearsing, nurturing Uncharted guitar territory, and it was like wow, the kid's gonna die soon. He wants to meet me before he dies. Well, what the hell did I
do to deserve that? What is such an emotional juncture of a young man's life? That's he thinks of the guitar player. So I was fascinated yeah I want to meet this guy's name is Jason I want to meet this Yeah, guys and set it up. Meet him Annette Where's always from up north but beat him up. Can you meet me in Ann Arbor? So I took him out to the the this federal state land there by the Washtenaw County game preserves you know wildlife
areas. And I took my Smith and Wesson 22 revolver we went after squirrels I don't even care if the squirrel season was on whether it's a season on rodents I'll never understand but I took them out. And I showed him that the Motor City madman this hyper Gonzo high velocity flame throwing rock and roll thing could stop take a deep breath and we communicated and in a nature which is why my new singles called American campfire because it's around that campfire both literally and
figuratively. I don't think we in fact we didn't have a campfire we should have but we walked the this the forests and the swamps in the rivers and I showed him how to shoot the 22 trigger controls sight acquisition breathing it's it's it martial arts it's a samurai thing unless you're just plinking which you can plank but first you should probably probably find your spirit in control whether it's born arrow or guitar or welding or parenting but the handgun the double action handgun you open
the cylinder and there's mechanics and I would go through slowly he couldn't believe that this motor city madman flame throwing guitar Slammer was also the samurai guy and I remember he would always go this is I couldn't have imagined that this was was what it's gonna be like so I'm I'm walking with the guy the guys I lost track again that samurai thing I'd lost track of that he wanted me because he's going to be dead soon which is in comprehensible to a young man on fire but we had such a good
time and I'm a funny guy you may have noticed that fun with me You're weird so I we laughed and talked about girls and talked about guitar licks and talked about our favorite songs and our favorite Chuck Berry songs and then growing up in Michigan the land of Fredbear and how he never got into bow hunting but we never got around to bows and arrows but we shot the pistol we didn't kill a squirrel or anything we saw a few but killer squirrel the pistols really tough and and he I think he
grasped why we didn't kill a squirrel because it the challenge with a handgun is Incredible, but I got him we could knock down some tin cans at 2530 yards. And you could tell that all of a sudden, for a moment, he wasn't facing death. He was fascinated with the here and now. So regarding the charity, I realized that I've been blessed beyond measure to
be invited. This has happened so many times since that and little boys and girls little five and six year old boys and girls it's so awakens you it's so reaffirms prioritization and intellectual spiritual considerations of how you relate to people that I guess we can jettison from that time with Jason before he died. And all these people that have asked to spend a day hunting or fishing with me before they die, it's I manage my emotions real good, because you can imagine
how emotional it is. Uh huh. And so, to be so touched, and chosen, they chose me. How about a little boy six years old died of cancer? What definitive vetting process did his parents have to go through? When he asked to go hunting with Ted Nugent before he dies to determine whether I was a good enough guy to qualify? Well, guess what? I am a good enough guy to qualify, they determined that and there is no other scrutiny or review, more meaningful than that?
No, that's an amazing thing that you're doing and you also give 250 million meals a year to the homeless.
Yes, my trusty bow and arrow, we get a lot of deer. But it's not I don't I don't do that the 250 million I do a bunch. Not that many. But we did create 100 for the hungry program just been hungry if you're sportsmen so it's now it's nationwide and we do I think it's over 300 million perfect, organic, nutritious, super quality meals of hotton nourishing venison to homeless shelters and soup kitchens. That's why I've like I my Halo I can't leave the house. But it's
not just me. It's a whole bunch of really giving caring people which I'm surrounded by all the time. But we did do a review here recently. I have an assembly line every day I you know nowadays with the middle finger on fire i i literally sit down and I sign 1000s of these it's like an old man sweatshop.
I sign all these hats and there's some I probably shouldn't show you that and I signed guitars and bows and guns and but but stocks offer rifles and bullets and, and skulls and eight by 10 photos and driftwood and arrows I signed all I have my own signature line of arrows that has the ubiquitous zebra graphics. And I sign those literally I've been doing it
since the 1960s. And we have calculated on the low end that I have raised over $27 million just by signing things and donated the fundraisers for children's militaries, law enforcement, conservation, civil rights organizations. School Music endeavors archery in school endeavors. Ronald McDonald cancer I mean, yes, name, name, something you care about. And if you're here with me today, I can tell that you everybody I know. We care, of course and if someone reaches out to you sign a guitar for
this. There's St. Jude's Children's Hospital. I go Yeah, about four of them. Um, so yeah, I have a heart and I have a soul and when you're clean and sober all your life. Your your, your spirit responds appropriately. Absolutely.
Clean and Sober thing. You mentioned that a lot. One of my earliest memories of you was an interview on MTV. Is this a true story? Or did I remember this wrong? It was something like you smoke when you were a kid or you drank when you're a kid and your dad made you smoke a pack of cigarettes or drink a bottle of booze and that was the end of it. Was that right? Is that what happened?
No. That is a variation of that variation. My my dad would have ripped my head clean off and pounded me if he caught me smoking even though he smoked. God bless the greatest generation Hmm. But he was a great father. We didn't think so being over disciplined growing up But we certainly appreciated it later on. And I do every day and it's how I raised my children and my grandchildren. But no, I, I played at a University of Detroit fraternity
party, a pool party. I'm in this is 1958 59 was going on 11 years old. And I was already playing Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley stuff. And my band The Royal high boys. It was a combo was me and a drummer. And it wasn't even weren't even any hippies it was beatniks and the beatniks were smoking dope and drinking. And I didn't know what dope was, I just thought it was really a delicious smelling cigarette. These guys were smoking, I had no idea but I didn't dare smoke,
my dad would collaborate me. And I got home a little later than usual as a kid. But my dad sanction my mom and dad said if you're going to practice guitar, what you have to do every day, or you're not gonna play guitar that I came home and they had offered me a couple of paps blue ribbons. Mm hmm. And I took a few swigs. I don't think I drank a whole bottle, but I was just a kid. Um, and my dad could smell
it on my breath. And he, when my dad died a number of years ago, I went through his boxes of accumulated stuff. And there was my pad of paper with I will never get drunk again written 1000 times.
Oh, shit. So that was your punishment?
Well, yeah. And, and, of course, he was really very stern. And when he laid down the law, you know, you better obey that law, which is what I wish my president would do. But, um, if I actually had a president, but my point is, is that that discipline goes to the core of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, because if you're not disciplined, you're not going to get any of that stuff. So going back to the charity thing, and again, it's
not me, it's It's everybody. I know, when all my rancher buddies, my farming buddies, my hunting buddies, the law enforcement, the teachers, the people that share my hunting campfires every year, which is an army of good Americans. They all give and give and give. And that's, that's just what I do. But I think the glaring crowbar of reality that we're facing here, Dave, is that I'm really surrounded by the best loving I'm sorry, Chuck, the best loving people in the world. And
equally as powerful as that. I'm despised by the lowest scum that ever slithered on the earth, because they would literally call me a coward for murdering innocent animals. As I'm donating nutritious venison to homeless shelters. And that's the culture war in the most ugly graphic you can explain and I couldn't I couldn't be more proud that I'm that guy.
Yeah, one that even though there's people that disagree with you, but like Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine, you're still friends with him. Henry rowland's another guy who is you know, raises an eyebrow when he hears you talk but he also respects that you don't do drugs and that kind of influenced that punk movement? The straightaway
thanks so yeah, by the way the punk movement odd that they better get cracking because I was born when Little Richard had a punk movement nobody's even come close to Little Richard if you want to be a punk so that the Masters set the bar when I was born, and Little Richard, whether it's grunge or or whatever that movement was the CBGB is none of them could come close to Little Richard, come on.
That guy was awesome. It's such energy.
Yes. How about that? And I think I was the closest, as a white guy tried to convince me of that. I came the closest to little Richard's fire breathing on the opening and the vocals on Wango Tango back in what was that? 79 Maybe 1980. So yeah, he was very inspirational to all vocalist. I don't care if you're Paul Rogers or Steven Tyler or Sammy Hagar, between James Brown and Wilson Pickett and Little Richard they set the bar and it's never been surpassed
right. Well I'm going to get in trouble if I don't promote this new album that you've got Detroit muscle to great title to awesome cover art and the song come and take it. I mean, this song it's pretty obvious theme right? This is clearly about trash men coming to take your trash. Is that what it's about?
That's exactly what it is. Send it to the ultimate garbage collectors. Joe Biden and Beto O'Rourke and I sent him a copy of my government song come and take it and I gave him my address. And I said, if you want to take away our guns start with me. onx
Yeah. Well, how many guns do you own?
Ah, well, yeah, I just had a sale actually, because I had so many. I mean, can you believe that Ted Nugent is about to make the statement. I had too many guns. Shotguns. That's all wrong. That's right there. feel so guilty saying that, but I really did. I had hundreds and hundreds of rifles and shotguns that were collector's items that just sat
in the safe. I've never fired them some of my bone for over 50 years, the beautiful handguns, I kept my favorite 100 But I sold hundreds and hundreds of guns. Because it's I'm not a Believe it or not, I'm sitting in a Cuckoo's Nest. I don't know if you see this room, but I've got firepower and I got a cool hundreds of 1000s of rounds of ammo and beautiful dead
creatures that fed me. But But I own I own somewhere around 100 guns and i i have my favorite half dozen that I train with every day and I use for specific duties, long range sniper rifles that I use on occasion when a rancher has too many deer and he calls uncle TED to fix it. So I
love my firearms. It's it's a great discipline, it's a great tool that literally is not just a fascinating fun, recreating because when you dedicate yourself to marksmanship, and projectile management, it really focuses everything you have to that moment of ignition, and the competitive factor I compete with I don't like compete failing li with the heroes of Delta Force and SWAT teams, but I hold my own is for a guitar
player. And I find I find projectile management which happens to be the name of one of my companies, projectile management being a manifestation of one's life management Ness, the origins of Zen, if you can control the mystical flight of the arrow, that can be the control of the path of your life's vision. And that's really what it comes down to. Because when I come to full draw, in fact, I do it every day. I just got done shooting a bunch of
arrows outside with my dogs. But every day even right in my man cave, Cuckoo's Nest, I have multiple bows and arrows that I flex and test every day and I have a mechanical resource release so that the arrow comes off consistently. And when you come right about here there's no Nancy Pelosi.
Well, I heard that you actually just shot that.
Yeah, I got a target range in my man cave Cuckoo's Nest.
That's awesome. That's your man cave. So that's off like the man
it's my it's where I cleaned my guns and sharpen my knives and play my guitar by the way, you think that bow and arrow was cool. Um, this is a Gibson Birdland.
Yeah this is I can't hear what happened Hey, I have a question. The song Cat Scratch Fever. I always wonder this. This the line? This is a genius line. I made the pussy PR with a stroke of my hand. How did you get that line through the sensors? Because when I lived in Seattle, they play that on the radio uncensored and I was like he just said pussy, but he said it on the radio. How do you do that?
You know, I don't write songs. I ejaculate them. I just pick up the guitar. It's a gift. I just pick up the guitar and these killer licks and I don't write songs I chuck I've never sat down and wrote a song. I don't have pad of paper and a pencil. I pick up the guitar and those things happen. And being raised on the masters of groove and defiance and soulful music, the black heroes that gave us all the best musical foundation
in the history of Earth. I'm so mesmerized and so genuflecting that their alter that patterns happen, and when a pattern happens it in if you're open and again my hunting outdoor lifestyle purifies me their healing powers of nature when I come in my man I just by the way, I rushed in here this morning I was skinning a deer and my alarm went off I went well shit I gotta go do this thing. So I hauled ass got the dogs up and then I get here when except my password so I was
about that delicate. But Mrs. Reagan came in and saved me. My point being is that when I'm out there, there's no Joe Biden. There's no evil. There's no Antifa there's no Black Lives Matter terrorists. There's no arsonists, there's no negativity, there's no eight. There's no lies. When I'm out there. I fixed a water crossing fence this morning. I'm can't believe I have any fingers left. And so I'm so tuned into the
earth. That by the time I get back to my man cave cuckoo's nest or in Michigan, the sacred swamp barn, guitars and amplifiers and I immediately plug in and the most emphatic, unambiguous expression of what I experience when I come in From the total purification of the outdoor life every time I pick up my guitar it's like my first piece of ass even as this old silver beard 73.4 year old man, you can tell I have a lot of energy because I am yeah, it's recreation, but the foundation
of the term is recreate so, to your question, I love my elongated answers. I kind of do to actually it's like a journey to the center of the mind. And so when I write that song, I'm it's got the title. It's got a cat in the title. Yeah, and I didn't think this at the time but when I played it for Epic Records everybody why you can't say pushy. I go it's a badass. It's about a cat. It's a modern
natural disease about cats. You can use the term pussy when you're talking about cats everybody shut the fuck up and let's make this masterpiece. Literally, Chuck it's literally out of body I you know in The Last Samurai when Tom Cruise was trying to figure out the samurai maneuver, it's like a it's like a bladed ballet shoe like the way i termini terminology ties things
weight and ballet. That's a new Ted Nugent song I
think Blaye a ballet of the blade and the samurai master came up to the white guy and went to many minds it must flow instinctually well that's what my guitar is that's what my lyrics are that's what my SAR I got a song in the new record. Wait, Chuck? Yes. Wait till you hear the song. Feedback. Grind fire to work. That's a cool title. What a great title but it is my guitars feedback and it's grind fire me Norther guitar doesn't look at the Goosebumps
Oh yeah, I know. Even still to this day the guitar still electrifies you like That's amazing. Yeah. And
again, because I just came in from I got dirt on my finger. I don't know because I wash my hands but I get dirty. I get earthy what's the greatest compliment you can possibly be given? Allow me to answer. God then they say this about my kids all the time. Boy, your son Toby. I worked with him on that last hunt. Boy he's really down to earth. He's a he's really grounded. Well, what is down to earth and grounded mean? Why would you use those terms to complement someone's integrity?
Reliability? Positive energy? I'll tell you why. Because the more time you spend earthly hunting, fishing, trapping farming, ranching, begin planting trees these hands have planted 10s of 1000s of trees. Been doing it since 1969. Nobody said you know you should probably plant a tree you know my instinct. My brain I hug I shot a squirrel out of a tree and then I I burned in the fireplace in my woodburner I go mice my spirit wet. You know you're using wood. You should
probably replace it. Hmm. Hello. Hello. I'm so so so you'll never have an interview. I don't know how many interviews you do. I don't know who you talk to. Doesn't really matter. I hope you have a good time and I'm sure you get some fascinating dialogue and I we should learn something every day with your talk to a genius or a dirtbag. I think we learned more from dirtbags than we do geniuses,
I'm grounded down to earth. Are you connected to God's miraculous creation in a positive beneficial way to increase quality of life that can only come from quality air, soil and water which can only come from wildlife habitat but only if the wildlife is a precious renewable resource is valued so that the money that gazillions of dollars for hunting, fishing trapping licenses and the supplies safeguard this vast habitat, enhance marginalised habitat Ducks Unlimited Delta waterfowl,
National Wild Turkey Federation Rocky Mountain Elk foundation pheasant forever whitetails Unlimited, the trout society the grouse are you are you are you are you are you cataloguing
this I'm recording it Yes, I
will catalog because you'll never you'll never have a dialogue with another human being especially in the world of entertainment. That even knows this shit. Much. Now,
I learned so much from your interview with Joe Rogan. Both of them actually
Hello, I'm just a guitar player but I but the brain works.
It does it does. You destroy people in debates. I mean, it's it's crazy.
It. Yeah, it is crazy. Um, it's crazy because I I actually wrote Wang dang sweet poontang and I meant it. Why should the author of Wang dang sweet poontang intellectually tower over the piers Morgan's of the world who the other side thought he would be the guy, the smartest, most educated guy, a cocky lie me really beyond measure until he ran into debt. And I ripped his head clean off and shit down his neck. It was it was like a ballet of the
middle finger army. Beautiful point being is that the left the democrats, the liberals, they only presume to know they want clean air, soil and water and none of them have planted 10s of 1000s of trees. Fuck you.
There you go.
There you go. Have a nice day drive safely.
Do you have to get going? Yeah, you got it? You know,
it's a figure of speech Once you've completely slammed the door on people.
No, I like and I like those discussions. I like debates.
And I'm never mean I'm never I'm never nasty about it. I mean, I was so polite to Piers Morgan I thought he was gonna kiss me. Um, but so he must pass I you lob presumptions at me. out of the park, I knocked them out of the park, because I actually have hands on boots on the ground, diverse experiences on planet Earth. And I'm humbled beyond measure to genuflect at the altar of truth, logic and common sense and the
evidence to support it. So if you're going to debate me, you're going to lose, guaranteed,
guaranteed. Would you have a debate with Neil Young with that whole Spotify thing? That would be kind of a fun debate to see. And then you guys can have a concert afterwards do for charity or something?
It would be awesome because he's far made. I'm the farmer. Yes, yes. But here's the chuck. Here's the beauty of that. Absolutely, I would. And I would be polite, and I would respect his incredible talents, and how he is rich people's lives. And I know he's been a doper forever, which is why he oftentimes doesn't make any sense. And he overreacts before thinking because the more dope you smoked, the less you're capable of meaningful thought. But I would be polite and
supportive. I mean, even with Joe Rogan, everybody's gone your age. He's our he doesn't believe in that you believe. It was a love fest. It was it was a love fest, not for Joe and Ted, but for topics, observations, the reverence of evidence to support your take. And everybody that's why the Huffington Post why the Rolling Stone magazine had a claim that the worst homophobic song of all times was snakeskin cowboys. Now let's take a deep
breath. What the fuck did decide snakeskin cowboys have to do with homosexuality, and they wrote it they wrote that I'm the biggest homophobic Punk in the world because of my my anti gay song 16 compilation with the foot to snakeskin cop was have to do with queers has nothing whatsoever to do with that. Or how about the day, right? I I adopted a nine year old to have sex with her. What was her name? When he died? No, no, I didn't dodge the draft. Native Americans, it made it lie after
lie. Because they know they can't debate me. It's so beautiful. I would kiss myself. Well,
yeah. Because one thing that I thought was interesting. I didn't know this. In 1968. You guys did a concert for the tribute after the assassination of Martin Luther King.
Chuck. Thank you for bringing that up. Because that is also not true. It's I would have, but it never happened. I don't know where they get this stuff. And believe me, I remember everything. Yeah, no, I find people on my Facebook I get on every day and it's just an orgy of memories and outrage and fun and rock and roll minutiae.
And with a dimension, a contrary, I saw a Kickapoo Creek and I went, Yeah, I wore that black fringe outfit, and I swan dive into the mud pit and became covered in mud right after BBK I remember we always opened up with a song called loaded for bear. I remember everything because I've been clean and sober and the brain still works. Plus, those memories are really valuable. Yeah, I won't mention any names but a bunch of a list of cocoa. Here's my inspiration. Look at that beautiful Oh,
that's one of your dogs. You got three right? Yeah,
I got three happy Sadie and Coco. But anyhow. A listers, the most revered musical geniuses that walk the earth. I'm not gonna mention any names. Just pick your favorite. They don't remember anything. I remember doing hundreds of concerts with this a list band and we'll get together and talk and being generous with the term talk. They don't remember any of it. I remember all of it and fun
stuff. But that's always been my prime motivation to be clean and sober because when I when I jam with Jimi Hendrix or with Eddie Van Halen or anybody I thought we could talk about music and guitar tones and maybe strings and amplifiers are girls songs couldn't couldn't I want to have a conversation with Bom Scott they were recording Highway to Hell. I was recording weekend warriors. They couldn't talk. There's they were drooling and stumbling and puking and, and
just disgusting. John Belushi invited he sent a limo for me and seven in 1979 sold out two nights at their Chicago stadium and he was a big fan so he in Ackroyd sent a car for me and my girlfriend to come to their their speakeasy that they bought while they were filming now The Blues Brothers which by I was just juggle Lucci man, I consider myself funny, but that's my man. I want to meet John Belushi and he's sending a car for me. I can't wait to
shoot the shit. Maybe, maybe do some jam sessions of funny shit. Because he's had that kind of spontaneous guy. Right. Chuck? What a heart another heartbreak. It was an outtake from stuck Scarface. Nobody could form a syllable. They were smelled like a dirty diaper get nobody could talk. I wanted he and I the Belushi and Akroyd elevated James Brown and Booker T and the MGS and stacks bowl and Steve Cropper and duck done all the all my musical heroes I thought we have so much to talk about.
And they were they wanted me to jam I couldn't wait to play. I can play the soul man like perfect like I learned from Steve Cropper. I couldn't wait to get in with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd and the guys ago I couldn't wait. Yeah, they couldn't stand up. Oh, it was like an hour of Clockwork Orange Cuckoo's Nest opion den spoof. And that happened all the time with all these heroes. You you mother fuckers, what are you doing? And I actually talked to John. You're gonna die. You
can't do this, John. Ah, fuck. Jimmy No, I don't know. I don't need you. I don't know what those pills are. But I should have fucked up money is gonna kill you. I told Jimi Hendrix he was gonna die. I told John blue she's gonna die till bond Scott he's gonna die. I told Keith Mooney was gonna die Yeah, no Jim doesn't party oh I party but not with drugs or men. So I so I don't need any more graphic lessons than then the the people who were weak and made mistakes
taught me I saw so wish. I mean, I think Eddie Van Halen died because of substance abuse weakened in his system and smoking. And I told him that in fact, I was the first phone call. He told me that when he went to rehab and got clean and sober, he said, You're the first phone call I'm making I want to thank you for pushing and never giving up on me because I always told me you're stupid fuck, what do you do? So So I got a lot of lessons in life and, and I tried to learn something every day.
And then if it benefits my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, I tried to share it with people that seem to be stumbling because we all stumble. But if we have lessons that can minimize the stumbling I think it's up to us on a spiritual level to share those lessons and that's what I've done which is one of the reasons The left hates me. Nugen wants to ban dope. Dude shut the fuck
up. At Nugent's against alcohol Well, I'm against drooling, puking and dying I'm against mothers around a hole in the ground crying because their son got high in his dead that's what I'm against. So abusing it. Yes obviously but I I got I gotta tell you you know Keith Richards not withstanding he's got he's got Monsanto beat. You know, Monsanto is no Oh, yeah. Better Living Through Chemistry or Yeah, should be their pitch
should be on their poster. But anyhow, I spent the weekend with Keith Richards and 78 at Studio 54. Chuck, dang, put your thinking cap on. Wouldn't you have loved to have followed me and Keith at Studio 54. Man, that sounds about a dichotomy. It's like God and Satan on a date. Not Satan, but you know what I mean? But the dichotomy is like,
the absolutely yeah, to tell him he had a great time.
But he, he couldn't carry on a conversation, huh? It was a series of noises and an occasional syllable. And the fact that I was carrying a Walther PPK 380 kept him fascinated. He always, always wanted to check and see if I still had my gun in my belt.
Alright, your gun to Studio 54.
Hello. I carry my gun to the fucking bathroom. I have a handkerchief. I don't leave my handkerchief outside studio 54 Handkerchief a knife, a belt tool. I got chapstick. I got a lighter. I got a flashlight and a pistol. I got 48 rounds of ammo. What's that? What else? I got guitar picks. There are certain things I never leave home without. Yeah.
So you're hanging out with Keith Richards and he's just fascinated by your gun.
Yeah, he we read up a banquet. It's like a Beggar's Banquet. outtake? It was a um. Geez, I'll try to remember all the people Johnny Winter Edgar Winter. Rick Derringer, Eddie money. Bill Graham put it on because I just sold out Madison Square Gardens two nights in a row. And Keith Richards and Britt Ekland. I can't believe I remember all these named Britt Ekland member Britt Ekland. No, who's that? That's a famous blonde actress that now no one
name of age me. I don't know why it evades me but the singer with the first Jeff Beck Group that went on to make all those hit records. Come on, Ted, who I'm trying to blank to. Yeah, the English guy with the spiky hair, just a phenomenal talent. But anyhow, it was his girlfriend, famous actress babe of the Rock and Roll world. She was all over me that night. Anyhow, um, we're at the table and Keith had just the previous year been busted, I think down in Tennessee being
caught with a pistol. And he was so he loved guns, who doesn't love gardens. And they he he was facing felony charges because he's a foreigner with a pistol without a license and a permit as if we need a license or permit for a God given right. I'd like to punch the prick to thinks he can give me permission to defend myself Who is this motherfucker? So he brought a cane with a big brass knob on it and he always had that cane with my you see footage from back
that he always had the cane. And I had mentioned to him that, you know, he played a huge role on with Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley and Lonnie Mack and Dwayne Eddie. I just said I want to bore you for this all your life but when the reason I'm a dangerous guitar players because you you you passed on the baton of all those black heroes thank you for that. I played everyone a urine Brian Jones's lick all my life. That's for the boy do it. Well, I appreciate that man. I think those have he said I can
hardly understand. But he had the cane. I said So do you ever get out of that? Gun charge in Tennessee? Got? I think he was saying yes. Yes. It was difficult, but they're fascinating. What's Mike Myers does pass. Yeah, I didn't know if I was talking to Keith, or Mike Meyer. But anyhow, was awesome. You can imagine how easily I'm entertained. But I'm entertained by that. I was expecting Richard Pryor to come in and ignite his Afro because that's the ultimate entertainment. He made a career
out of it. But anyhow, um, and he said, Yeah, but I carry this now. And he handed me the cane and he smacked it in his hand. And he handed it to me. And we're sitting at this bigger bank with all these stars and all big big night and all this food and as the carved dice Swan and really Beggars Banquet rock and roll post concert orgy. And a San Carlos Santana was there. I think I named everybody and he handed it to me. I see. That's great. That's got a lot of heft that could do some damage.
That's awesome. And we're sitting at the table next to each other. And I say, but if somebody came at you 10 feet away. This probably come in handy and I handed in my wallet And he grabbed it and all of a sudden even
shocked face
shocked, because Manhattan you can't carry a gun in Manhattan, right? So they say, Yeah, but I'm afraid. Let me make sure I clarify. I'm a free man, guess who's in charge of my survival? One person? Me. I don't need a piece of paper or a license or permit from my First Amendment. Anywhere. There's no building where my First Amendment isn't good. I don't need a license. I don't need another man to go, you know, here's some areas you have a first amendment but over here,
you don't have any. Fuck you. So that's my attitude about oh my god given rights, I don't need any man to authorize my right to keep and bear arms or defend myself. In fact, if anybody dares, they are clearly the enemy of my life. So I have all my god given rights as I walk on planet Earth, including when I tour Europe or Britain or anywhere. I've always been armed. I've always got, I just have stuff. I have guitar picks, I have a handkerchief. I got a wallet, I got ID, I got some
cash. I got my driver's license. I got my my Sheriff production. I've been a sheriff's deputy for 39 years. I wasn't back then. Which I finally passed the law House Resolution to a team so that all sworn law enforcement can indeed carry a firearm in United States of America, though, so he was absolutely fascinated. Then I met this big table with all these celebrities, New York City and I handed him a loaded Walther, and he clung to me like glue all
weekend. It was just awesome. So yeah, there's some fascinating stories in the naked cities and all the best ones are mine.
That's a great that's a crazy story. Keith Richards. I can't believe he's still he's still kicking. He's still doing fine somehow he's,
God bless him, huh? Yeah, where I gotta tell you Chuck. What he did to pass on those black masters soulful licks if not more important than the black master soulful licks. But he elevated and emphasized with Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley, primarily so many others, but primarily those guys in the black, emotional, defiant musical authority of the newly electrified guitar. I was born 48 I think Les Paul electrified it and 4445 right around right around the time of Nagasaki.
What a coincidence. And what the stones what Brian Jones and Keith Richards and certainly George Harrison, John Lennon not so much because you've mostly astronomer which is awesome. But how they transferred, the cadence the lyricism. For example. I'm the only guy who celebrates and promotes and just rejoices that on the first Stones album and the first Beatles album, were Chuck Berry songs, Bo Diddley songs and Motown songs. Hello. And they better delivered it. Then those
like like Elvis did. I think they better delivered it in a dedicated intense reverence of those black authority founding fathers to better convey it to the world. And it doesn't matter I'll see if I remember I knew all those licks Yeah. Yet, here, that's it. Yeah. So the stones and the Beatles they're revered and they're celebrated. But they peep people don't articulate the specifics of what Keith and Brian and George brought us from those original Black Heroes.
Because there there is no meaningful music ever meaningful mean that prods you that motivates you that drives you in an uppity. You can't not pay attention to it that wasn't created by a black guy at the Howlin Wolf, the muddy waters the most Allison's all those original, you know, agonizing blues artists agonizing because they were tortured, with the worst curse in the history of humanity, slavery, that led me to man that thinks he can own another man. But they were a
victim of that. So their heartbreak, we will never know we can contemplate it and dedicate ourselves to understand it, and thank God, we eliminated it. But coming from shackles to free at last, I give you Chuck Berry. And that's why that is so powerful and so meaningful. And the stones did such a beautiful job of revering, representing, projecting and and delivering that black authority, because you got to admit the stones and the Beatles they were tight.
They the music had such spirit because of their black influence Case Closed.
Mm hmm. Now, I mean, they influenced so many other bands, then it's like your generation and the 80s and just keeps going.
It's eternal. I'm just like it that adlib moment and Stranglehold. Some people got want to get high. Some people got to start low. Some people think they're going to die some day I got news, you never got to go. I had never said that before when I was doing the vocal track to show the lyricism and cadence and the melody to Derek because he has such a superior voice for that kind of song. Just before the Bolero erupted, I just set it for the first time. And and just all the guys thought it was
cool. So we kept it in there. But that's really what I'm saying is if you put your heart and soul and being the best that you can be whether you're a welder or a teacher, or a radio guy or a guitar player or an artist, if you deliver the goods the last forever when we're long gone. Your spirit exists in that music. We got meatloaf, we got so many artists that have passed that music will live forever.
Thank God bond Scott's music Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, that will be played forever because because it's authoritative, passionate, outrageous, defiant, uppity and deeply spirited. Dare I say?
Mm hmm, absolutely. Well, thanks so much. I know you probably got to get going. I went way over the time limit. But I appreciate all the time. This has been a blast. So I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome. And the new record we're proud of Jason heartless on drums Greg Smith on bass guitar. I'm the luckiest guitar player that ever lived. I've got the best bands for ever going all the way back to the Amboy Dukes and the Damn Yankees and all my solo bands.
But right now, when Jason and Greg and I attack these songs that I ejaculate they they put just superhuman energy and piss and vinegar and musical authority in every song we're so proud of the record have you've heard come and take it which is awesome. wouldn't get American air. Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't matter what the the topic was. It's just a great piece of music just great rhythm and grind. But if you heard American campfire yet the second
Yeah, that one and come and take as I heard those two Detroit muscle coming out soon. And then you're going to tour as well with these with these great musicians that you have.
Yeah, who's gonna stop me? I can't wait. In fact, there's a great great statement being made down in Panama City, the city elders, though none of them are as old as I am. Hope they respect their elders. They decided to make a statement of sorts. See if you could not decipher the statement from Panama City on April 29. For Ted Nugent is headlining the Beach Bash. And then on the 30th, Kid Rock is headlining the Beach Bash. I think there's a I think there's a statement in there somewhere.
That sounds like a fun concert. Yeah. Are you coming to Phoenix, Arizona.
You know, I haven't seen it on the list yet. I know the Communist Chinese in the White House canceled our 20 and 21 tours, and hopefully we can get out of them. And hopefully we can unleash the beast this year. Because we love the music. We can't wait to play the song we I made a list out the other day of the favorite songs I'd like to play and I think it was like 120 of my favorite songs. I love my music. I can't wait to play this stuff. I play my
guitar every day. Jason and Greg put their heart and soul into every lick every song every night. So we're the last of them. And if you want to see a fire breathing high energy, a 10 word hog of rock and roll. I'm your daddy.
All right. I'll come and see it for sure. That sounds like a blast.
I appreciate you letting me talk about the things I love man.
Yeah, me. I love listening anytime. Thanks so much. Live it
up, man. Have a wonderful, wonderful year clusterfuck 22
You two. All right. Okay, well, that was a whirlwind. But we got through. Ted is kind of like the Tasmanian devil of rock and I had a lot of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed it. And again, even if you don't agree with him, you can't deny he's an interesting guy to talk to make sure to check out his new album to treat muscle and catch him on tour with his band. You can also follow both of us on social
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