Jizzy Pearl (Quiet Riot)

Hey, welcome jizzy Pearl is back today for round two. He's got a new book coming out called all the devils, which we're going to discuss in detail in this episode. And we're going to talk about life in a rock band doing interviews, the return of Rudy sarzo and quiet riot and much, much more. Don't touch that dial. Yeah, let's go welcome jizzy pearl to the show. How you doing Josie? Good. How are you? I'm great. I'm really excited to use

We're all about the clicks, as you know, right?

So I read your book, your new book. It's called all the devils. Right? I got the title, right? I hope.

Yes. Yes.

So my favorite chapter, by far, not even close was who's up for an interview? Because, hey, that's what I do. I interview people. So I'm like, Oh, he's like peeling back the curtain. And I get to see like, what these people are really thinking. And that's so to me, that was just so fascinating.

Yeah, well, you know, because it's a big part of when you first start, you know, in a name, when you first get the record deal, and they put you out on the road. It's like an assembly line. You go from city to city to city to radio station, Radio station, you know what I mean? And it was a new thing for me to have to do to have to be that, you know, guy getting up every morning and telling people all about myself,

right. And I think people don't realize how many interviews like I forget that too. Because I remember I had, I've had Donnie V on the show three times. And the third time I said something and like, and I realized he did not remember me at all like, and I was like, Oh, and you said there was like people who get mad at you for not remembering them. But I don't think we realize how many interviews you guys do. It's not just even today, because it's not just podcast, it's podcast.

Well, the guys that would get mad at me were the guys that thought that they were the little kings of their kingdom. You know what I mean? I'm the biggest DJ in Omaha, Nebraska. You know what I mean? So when you come to Omaha, everyone had to go kiss the ring. And, and when I didn't know his radio moniker, you don't I mean, they would get pissed. And I was just trying to explain to the guy, you I do

know what, you guys gonna fight though? Is that or is that a little exaggerated?

Uh, I wouldn't beat him up.

But like, he was really that mad that he wanted to almost like fight you like, just because

he was. He was shamed in front of his sink offense. You know what I mean? He had a bunch of little groupies around him. And, and I didn't know who he was. Or I forgotten who he was. Yeah, I mean, or, you know, whatever. Or, and so he kind of thought that he would shame me. And so I had to, you know, shame him. And Kiki. Kiki, you know what I mean? We had to, we had to do the testosterone thing. Mm hmm.

So there's that end of the spectrum, where you have someone who's interviewed who thinks they're the shit. And then you have it sounds like you have a lot of these people. You said that? You know, they're, they're trying, they're interviewing you just to get free tickets backstage or whatever, like people

know. That was real. That was a whole thing about when I was opening up for AC DC. We would pull into town, say Sacramento, and the tour manager would go okay, you've got three or four interviews today, blah, blah, blah. And some of them would be legitimate radio stations or whatever. But some of them would just be guys that want to get into AC DC for free. And so they would go through this charade, of interviewing me. They could care

yeah, but so did they actually, were they totally frauds? Like they didn't even have a website or newspaper? Or did they just, they just kind of half assed it for their, like, community college newspapers, kind of

the ladder. Okay, um, you know, I worked for blah, blah, it's like, today, everybody's got podcasts, and there's different degrees of podcasters. You know, I mean, and I would lump you in with the guys that know what they're talking about, know what they're doing. And, and we can have a good informed chat. And then there's the other 95% of the

Well, yeah, cuz I had that discussion with a friend of mine. I told him I was having you on, and I was like, a fellow podcaster. And I was like, Yeah, you know, I got to read his book. And he's like, why do you read the book? I'm like, Well, isn't that the point of the interview to read the book, and then discuss some of the things that are in it. I don't want to obviously spoil

Well, I you know, I just think it's a respect thing. You know, this is my fourth book. And, you know, I'm a real writer, regardless of what you think about, you know, 80s rockers or hair metal, or whatever you want to thank, you don't I mean, and, and I, and it's a real piece of work. And it's almost 300 pages, and I dig it. And I think that people that are readers would appreciate it.

know, for sure. Because it's like, it's kind of like a mixed thing a chocolate like, you never know what flavor each chapter. It's totally random. And then sometimes, like, I have to read and go Wait is this, it takes me a minute to realize is this fiction or nonfiction? And usually you can figure it out at some point, but it

depends on on on. Like, if you're talking about some of the drug taking experiences, and stuff like that. That's real. But it was, you know what I mean it Here I am, you know, a grown man. But when I was 16, or 17, I don't know about you. But back then we all sort of experimented with drugs and hallucinogenics and stuff. We were all looking for the answer. You know what I mean? Some of those trips were terrifying.

Yeah, I never liked that kind of stuff. That was not really my cup of tea. I mean, it's smoked pot. And I think I tried to acid once and I was like, this is like, my friends would do it every day and they'd go to school on acid. I was like, I don't know how you guys are making it through the day on acid. It's bizarre.

You know, it's funny, because this stuff that you would do as a kid. It's because you think you're bulletproof. You know what I mean? Like the story about the Jimson weed that I wrote about? Yeah, and I went when I went blind. Was that true? Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. Well, just commonly have kids, you know, stupid kid stuff. Yeah. Basically, the premise of the story is that when I was a kid, in my neighborhood, there was no weed for some reason. The neighborhood was dry and you

so it just the obviously the you didn't go blind permanently, so did You just wear off, or you have to get you didn't go to the hospital or anything like,

well, you don't go to the hospital. When you're a kid you don't go to you know what I mean? If your kid your arm gets cut off in a boating accident, you just say screw it. You know what I mean? I'll just, I'll just grow.

Thank God, it came back. And then didn't you do

peyote too? Yeah. Yeah, I did. That sounds scary. I mean, look, mushrooms, peyote acid, blah, blah, blah. I mean, we all in California in LA, where I lived, everybody did everything. You know what I mean? And, and yeah, peyote was a whole different thing. And I talked about that. And yeah, other stuff. But it's, of course, at the time. It's terrifying. But in retrospect, now you can write about it and turn it into a funny story.

Right? Yeah, cuz you definitely have a different eye with all that stuff. Like all the shit that you talk about the pranks and stuff you did as a kid like shitting in fountains and egging houses and the big one to me was like sugar in the gas tank. I always saw that on TV, but I never knew anybody that actually did that, because it really would ruin a car engine. Right?

Oh, it works. That's totally it totally works. Yeah, it's, um, that was usually reserved for for rich kids. That, that for some reason, pissed you off at the lunch. You know what I mean? Yeah, shame on, he might have a bunch of your friends and stuff like that. So that was a that was usually reserved for daddy's Mercedes.

The ultimate revenge like, that's crazy, though. So do you look back on that and you go, those kids like you still say those kids deserve it? Or you go, maybe I should have handled this differently.

No, I I look back on the stuff I did when I was a kid. And I just can't believe that I survived unscathed. You know what I mean? The stupid shit. Everybody every kid does. I mean, right. Remember streaking? Or is that before your time? We

had no, we never did that.

That's crazy. I heard that. Yeah, we did that. A friend of mine thought that he was going to be really cool. And he decided he was going to streak our lunch at our school. And he came in riding a motorcycle naked with a big long scarf. And he was just gonna, you know, blow everyone's mind. And the scarf got stuck in the fucking chains. Motorcycle. Oh, shit. Yeah. So that was not a that was not a good day.

For Yeah, you can't you can't some of the shit you can't do like, cuz I think back in the day look at streaking, they kind of laugh okay, it's silly kids. But now I think you'd be like, labeled a sex offender and you have to register as a sex.

If I hung on the Hollywood sign today, I probably be tased you know, I mean, people don't have it's just a different time. You know, I'm saying people are well woke and people were more triggered about stuff. You know, my books. My earlier books were a little bit more shocking. And I don't know, it's just it was just the time. You know, the year I am I got my new book. And, you know, I'm Mel a little bit mellower. Mary, you know, happy doing good. So the stories probably reflect some of

Yeah, it's kind of it's all over the place. There's a lot of like, kind of like almost I'd say like cute humor, like a lot of fart stuff and stuff like

that. There's always gonna be more stuff. Of course, fart and shit. Humor never gets old.

Yeah, for sure. So and of course, he talked about the Sunset Strip. And was that so again, we go back with some of its fiction. Some of its not with this, the the songwriting team of Stevens and Lear is that that's what a real team are. Is that based on a real team or is that totally fats?

Um it's not real. I just made it up. But the but I didn't make up the people that actually did that kind of stuff, basically, that that story is about guys who, every time a new musical trend would hit LA, they would ditch their clothes and their music and rewrite their music and adopt the costume of whatever the new trend would be. So first, if you are a poison, kind of copy band, with the spandex and the the hair and the

Yeah, he's mentioning, no integrity.

At the end of the day. I mean, you're which are, you know,

right. So like, you talked about a band called White sister that became tattoo rodeo, and they like put out this big ad in there and stuff. So why do you think so? Is that why some of those bands never evolved past being a Sunset Strip band is because they just

trend? I remember what sister? Yeah, when I when I used to go to the Troubadour when I was a kid, I used to see whites because they were huge. And they would sell up the troubadour. And the singer was really cute, you know, blah, blah. So so all the chicks dug them. And, and then they got signed as tattoo rodeo. And as as to why they never wrote big who knows? You know, it's not Why does a certain song like like Guns and Roses came out and it took them a year to break

You don't have any theories on that.

Well, if you sell your soul to the devil, I know it helps. But we never did that, you know, but I don't know. i My theory is that is that the Rock Gods Will will give and take you know what I mean? Like they gave us our big record deal on Columbia. And they put us on the road for years and we got to open for Ozzy and do and you know ACDC and made great records did great music and then at a certain point in time that was it for us you know me for my

Huh? Yeah, it's it's sometimes it's hard to figure this stuff out. But other times when you

figure it out there, you can't figure it out. That's another thing is you can't you can't write for people thinking that this is what they want to hear or this is going to be great on radio, or this is going to be the anthem that's going to make your band explode. You know what I mean? Because it never works out that way. A lot of times, bands get huge for because accidents like Mr. Baig that that one song that blew them up and stuff. I, you know, I heard that they didn't even

That's true. I will say but I mean, I think there are some factors. Definitely. You got to have talent. You got to have a work ethic. And the other two things I would say is you got to be in the right place at the right time. Like if you're in the 80s. You know, being on the Sunset Strip definitely helps rather than being in Nebraska. And then network

you're quoting my book now is what am I? But it's true. No, no, no, you're exactly right. Had I not lived in Hollywood? In La during that whole Guns and Roses era? Of course, it probably would not have happened for us, but we were there. And you know, they were looking for bands. That sounded like or they thought were going to be the next Guns and Roses. That's how it works. One band gets big and then everybody tries to sign what they think is going to be that

Right. Yeah. So you definitely increase the odds by doing some of those things. But then yeah, you're right after, after you get signed and you're, you're making records then it's like then it's kind of a crapshoot. If a song takes off, or an album takes off. Who knows? Like,

well, you don't know. Like, Mike, we we almost didn't put that song spinny wheel on my third record. My bass player didn't want it on the record, because he thought it sounded to Allison chain Z, the harmonies and stuff. But that's when Allison chains were huge. And so when I wrote that harmony for that song, you know, it sounded cool, because it it's I don't know, because it did. But he did. He didn't want it on the record. And we all sort of out voted him and put it on the

Yeah, no, definitely. I mean, there's so many stories like that where you hear like, they didn't want the, like the quiet, right? Come on, fill the noise. It was the same thing, right? Wasn't it? Like they didn't they cover it as a joke. And they tried to do it really bad. And then it became their biggest hit. I mean, there's so many stories.

It's the truth. And you can't I mean, you can you can, you can try and figure it out. But in this weird world of art. I mean, I mean, look at Van Gogh sold one painting in his life. You know, is that true? I didn't know that. Yeah, he sold one painting, and died penniless. And look how he turned out.

Yeah, I just went to this like Van Gogh exhibit here. And it was really cool. It was like this video thing. And yeah, he's one of my favorite. I love that kind of stuff. I love looking. I don't know, I can't like talk art. But I can look at and go. That's cool.

Well, it is cool stuff. I mean, yeah, most people most musicians don't get to get what I've gotten. A they don't ever get the record deal. They don't ever get the hammer of the gods. That comes with that record deal. You know what I mean? They don't get on a bus, they don't get to open up for their favorite bands. They don't get to meet people that they've loved for years. Like Brian may have queen or Robin Zander or Steven Tyler, you know, I mean, and you get to pal around with

Yeah, I think the hardest thing for me, like when I hear stories like yours, it's so crazy how many comebacks you had, like, that would be the hardest point though going from love, hate, and opening for do and ACDC. And then you had that kind of break before you was the next one rat or LA guns, I think was all guns. Right. So between that time, that must have been tough, though. You must have had thoughts of giving up or trying something else, or

there was always that open window I could have jumped out of

I'm glad you didn't do it.

It was it was enticing. Um, yeah. I mean, rags to riches to rags, essentially. And then I tried to get love hate back together, I think in 1997 or 1998. I tried to get love hate back together. And that didn't work out that exploded. And then I got a call to sing for LA guns out of the blue. And I immediately was on a bus playing big places again. And yeah, it was it was I really

And is that is that your main thing right now is just music and books and stuff? Or do you have other side gigs that you do or anything or producing bands?

I I've got this new YouTube channel called Jay pearl tv. That's sort of what I'm sort of it because of the lockdown. You know what I mean? And I thought, well, if you get locked down, you want to have a place to go for music and to be able to talk to people, you know, I mean, and so that's kind of what that became. And so I got the gym for you. And that's kind of YouTube and yeah, as

always though, I saw one where you did he told the story of the Hollywood sign crucifixion thing,

right? Yeah, my humorous anecdotes.

Yeah, yeah. Is that there's gonna be other stuff though. Music stuff, too.

Yeah, I mean, just those Hollywood stories is basically me talking about this side of the musical thing, maybe, you know, kind of like what my books do my books sort of show you what goes on behind the scenes, you know, the good, bad and the ugly and stuff like that. So these, these videos are sort of along the same line. You know what I mean? But you know, in the visual medium.

Yeah. So you start talking about behind the scenes, one of your chapters, actually, I think it's the first chapter was the G word, the groupies. So explain to me what that's always weird for me, too, because I think there's this like, glamorize thing of that, that people always go, Oh, he's a rock star. He has all these

what that story is, is is built around our girls, that partied in the 80s. And, you know, we're playing it pretty fast and loose. And now, 20 years later, they're trophy wives. You know what I mean? And their husbands don't know about their past. You know what I mean? They just know that these chicks are hot. And the fake boobs and the fake lips and you know what I mean, that they're The Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Right? The G word I love that. But yeah, that's an interesting the whole thing is just such an interesting because it was such interesting or interesting phenomenon. The 80s was a big thing. I groupies and then I think the 90s it was like, well, that's not cool to you know, the groupies. And that's not what we do. We're we're Nirvana, we're, you know, we're all about the music. And then it kind of comes in waves of the groupies being an

The group there, everybody has groupies, sports stars have groupies, rodeo stars have groupies. They're called buckle bunnies.

Didn't know that. Yeah.

I don't think it's gone away at all. I mean, I'm sure a lot of these new bands I and I couldn't tell you the names of any of these young metal bands. But I'm sure they've got plenty of women hanging outside their bus wanting to, to, you know, get down and dirty. But that I can just tell you from from personal experience, that back in the day, before the internet, and before message boards, and especially, you know, women message boards, you could get

But you like that better? Not because I mean, I feel like a lot of people I talk to when I do these interviews they get they get kind of burned out on that whole lifestyle, the sex drugs, and the Rock and Roll stuff. And like, I think you're sober three years now. Right? Yeah, yeah. So I mean, you you must have gotten kind of tired of it as well. And now you're and you're like you said, you're married. So well.

It's just it's you reach a certain point where, where you've just you've had, you've had what you will have, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? It's just you've you've done all the the Caligula shit that you ever would ever need to do in your life. And you don't need to be that guy anymore. And plus, we change the way we travel. I mean, these days and this, I speak for a lot of A's guys, you know, you get on a plane, it's all fly out.

mean that's a great analogy absurd

would be just like bondage pants and, and green hair and shit. You know, we just be silly.

Yeah. Well, I mean, that's that's one of the benefits of your line of work. But also, you mentioned this in the book a couple some of the TV people movie and TV people that you got to meet. It looks sounds like some of them actually was not from the band. So who did you ever meet anybody as well? No, I guess the Mr. T was from love hate, but like tattoo from Fantasy Island. He just happened to live by you, right?

Well, that story is in my new book. And essentially, I'll tell them a little bit of the story. My parents used to go to a bar and drink. And they had a circle of drinking buddies. And they would go play softball, when I lived in the San Fernando Valley. And they will go play softball on Sunday. And it basically was just another excuse to drink it would be coolers of beer and people trying to catch softballs and laughing and forced errors and strikeouts. And it was just fun

Put your Do you ever meet any other movie and TV stars? Or like Do you ever go to the Playboy Mansion or anything like that?

I I dated a Playboy Playmate at one time. But I never did get to go to the grotto as it were. I was supposed to. I was gonna go but I never

did. Okay. And then you guys had speaking of movies and TV, though, you mentioned the book that you know that song you guys had in the Nightmare on Elm Street? Part Four, that you only got? Is this true? You only got $200 for that you don't get any royalties.

$200 each.

But still like is don't you get a royalty from it too, though even it's like probably not very much. But,

um, at the time, this is before we got a record deal. And though, me getting in that movie was a big deal. And getting $200 was like winning the lottery. You know, cuz I was poor. I mean, I had no money, I had no car. And we were just it was, it's always that what they say darkest before the dawn. And it's really the truth. I mean, we were before we eventually got the record deal. We were desperate. I mean, we were just

Which one is that?

Why am I one with a tall guy? And the ball flew around. And it's an 80s movie. Google it, dude, come on.

I'm gonna have to watch that then. That's I'm gonna blank on that one.

It's a great movie.

Have you seen any recent good horror movies lately?

You know, I like the insidious ones. Yeah, I like those and the conjuring ones. I like those. You know, I I like dune. I thought that was good. That's not really a horror movie. But But yeah. You know, we I just watched succession on HBO and Yellowstone is great. Now watching 1883 That's great.

What's that? 118 87 heard of that?

It's a prequel to Yellowstone. Ah,

okay. Yeah. Shall we're like only a few episodes in. But yeah, good. It's a good show. But and then you mentioned Tarantino, there's a chapter about him. So are you big Tarantino fan? Because I'm a huge fan. And who's your what's your favorite Talentino movie?

Uh, I like Pulp Fiction, but I like Inglorious Basterds. I think that's my favorite. It's so yeah, guy is so amazing. That's like i The story I wrote, based on that Talentino movie, which is i It's really an original story. If you I won't give it away. But But yeah, it's a it's killer. Because it because everybody knows Pulp Fiction. I mean, everybody's watched many times, that they know. They'll know what I'm talking about when I'm when I reference the movie.

Yeah, no, that's a great, that's a great, I love it sad that he's, I guess, retired. I just don't buy that, that he, I don't understand that. If I for you with music, it'd be like you saying just like, Well, I'm just not gonna make any music anymore. I'm never gonna sing again. I mean, isn't that that's your life. Like, that's what you would even if you had to get a different job, you'd still do music on the side? Because you love it. Right?

I, I would, I would you know, but the older us people us guys get, the harder it is to keep, you know, that standard of excellence. You know, being a songwriter, it's, it's easy for me to still do you know what I mean? Because I still have that that bullshit meter in my head of this as a good song. And this isn't good enough to make the cut and stuff like that, you know, so I'm good that way. But there's other guys that that are getting older, now, they can't really do it

See, I always thought like, when you get old, like older like that, maybe you're not as good at your craft. Couldn't you help somebody else? Who who's up and coming and like mentor them or work together with them like produce or something? I always felt like that would be a better role. But like, if Tarantino doesn't want to write any more screenplays, or make any more movies, okay, fine, but could maybe he could produce some stuff and help an up and coming director and writer.

He could, or maybe he could just say, you know, screw them. And I want to go live in my mansion cold and enjoy the rest of my life. I mean, he's, he's worked his ass off anybody that's really successful. And in this business, you know, works their ass off. I mean, you don't see the work ethic. You only see the bad YouTubes of people that don't have their shit together. You know, like, guys like me, you're not seeing the three miles I ran this morning, you're not seeing the rehearsal that I

Yeah, no, he's great. Everyone loves him. He has such a good reputation. I think that's why he keeps getting these great gigs.

He's, he is he's a really nice guy. He's, he's, he's got a very, he's very zen. You know, I mean, when you're around him, you know what I mean? Like, if you're in a band with somebody, when you're young, and everybody's yelling and fighting and screaming, you know, you put up with it, because you're young and, and you've got that youthful energy and stuff. But when you're older, you just don't want to put up with assholes. You know, right. You just don't, you know, you want you want some peace.

why what the original guitarist Carl Carlos is not quite right. It he's never been met mentioned as being brought back into the fold.

I you know, I don't think that he wants to, to do the travel and the giggy you know what I mean? He's got his lifestyle, and, and obviously, he's got money. And I think he just wants to do what he wants to do. He wants to work on his cars. He wants to have a good life. And, you know, it's like I said, I mean, it's not the easiest. It's compared to being a plumber. Our job is really easy. But the travel and and going from airport to airport, and rushing around and you know,

Yeah, no, for sure. I would think the traveling would be really stressful even though like you said, you're doing the flying gig. So you're not on a tour bus. That sounds way worse to be stuck on a bus. And I don't know how you guys can

be better bus is better. Don't get sick of each other, though. Well, of course, you get sick of

each other. Because what it did to me, was it you that I had this discussion with where you said like I think I thought it was you that said like somebody could brush their teeth the wrong way on a tour bus and it could annoy you.

The thing about a tour bus that's great is that, um, you can go to bed and wake up in the next city. And some people can't sleep in the bunks because they're kind of coffin like, but yeah, really easy for me. I could just open up a book, put my earplugs in, close the curtain, the zoo. You know, it's like an alien when they're sleeping for 15 years. And then they open up that thing and yeah, and I love it. I love it. You wake up in the morning. The bus is rolling. You get your cup

don't do any you're not gonna do any tour but like you wouldn't ride a bus for like a two week run or something like that. Or

it's just kind of not the way that guys like us do it anymore. You know, I mean, it's just more feasible to do it with flying out you know, buses are are really they're expensive. And I mean the big bands do it obviously the Rolling Stones have 20 buses, you know, because the the Rolling Stones but for guys like us the the quiet riot, the warrant, Skid Row night Ranger, it's it's it's all fly outs for the most part. That's a weird question.

How do you how do you fly out with the drums though? Isn't that hard to

get? How do you know that part of the part of the money that's paid for fans goes to backline. You know, I mean, so you show up at wherever you're playing a club, or an arena. And there's backline there. And so yeah, you don't have to, you know, amps also, I mean, we don't bring our own amps. We just bring guitars.

So they bring they bring the drums. So it's not drummers drum kit. No. Okay. They at least get the drum head though or they have a decal or something they can put on the

decal on the drum that sort of gives everyone the illusion that it is your drum kit but wouldn't make it to bring your own drums obviously wouldn't make sense if you're flying. You know,

I would just think that as a drummer, you're very you it's I mean, drums are such a complicated instrument with like, you want certain things. I mean, it's gonna be hard to get used to someone else's kit, isn't it?

Well, you just you, you take the time. Like, you know, Johnny Kelly is our drummer and quiet, right? Yeah. And he fixes the drums, he makes them. He adjusts everything and tightens everything down and makes it you know, something playable. For him. That's that's sort of makes it his kit.

Hmm. No. Yeah, I guess as long as they don't complain. I guess that's, I mean, like you said, it's gonna play. Oh, that's great. Well, I got to ask you about you bring up social media a lot. I noticed that's in the book. There's that that's a definitely a theme. And like the Snapchat filters, you mentioned, you make fun of that. And like the bunny ears and stuff. I don't know if that's still as big of a thing. I know, a few years ago, though. All my friends were on the dating apps.

I never had to go on the dating apps because I was married. I only been married. Seven years.

Okay. Yeah. So it'll be

right, because my wife will kill me. I believe it's out on the dating

app thing because that's like a big thing. That's, it seems about how everybody meets now.

You know, maybe so but one of my stories in this new book is about the beauty apps that that whole Yeah. Thing about when women take those filters and it you know what I mean? It turns their face into like a lacquered Punchbowl. It's got no definition whatsoever, and they're just kind of it's kind of instant Botox.

Yeah, it's just, it's weird, where our society is headed with that. And then you have a story about this guy, you know, it's it's effects guys, too, cuz this guy gets obsessed with this YouTube girl. And it's like, we're so disconnected. And now I don't know if you're familiar with the whole Metaverse thing that's coming around, that are talking about like, it's going to be virtual reality. And I just feel like we're getting more and more disconnected in some ways. In

Um, if you're interested, go rent this movie, or go watch this movie called surrogates with Bruce Willis.

I was just gonna mention that. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel like that is where

we are headed, unfortunately. Yeah,

it's, I was I mentioned that on another episode where, yeah, Bruce Willis. Everyone's like, you know, they're ugly, and they're fat and out of shape. But then they have this surrogate that's really handsome or good looking and goes out into the world and does their job. And they're just sitting at a computer the whole it's crazy. And I feel like that might.

Yeah, that's what I think we're going because it just seems like everybody's the lock. What with the lockdown and stuff like that? I think. I think it it reinforced some bad behavior in people, you know what I mean? It gets harder to want to be healthy gets, you know, I mean, could you just think and we'll screw it. I mean, no one's going to see me anyway, who cares about blah, blah. So, you know, it's, it's, it's a bummer. It's a bummer. You know, people don't I mean,

Yeah. I mean, they're definitely lacking some of those social skills. And then with the pandemic, like, like you said, everything's a lot. Oh, there's a lot of schools lockdown, where kids did not have any face to face contact with other kids. And then they if they've got the masks on, they're not being able to read people's emotions. Yeah,

that's a whole nother thing that the thing with the mascot, because when we wear masks, like if I'm at the airport, everyone's wearing masks or something like that. I don't. I don't, I think of a different but if a child is wearing a mask, eight hours a day, for a long time. It's probably doing a thing to their head. You know what I mean? Mm hmm. It's a bummer. It's the whole thing has been a total bummer. And, and now, you know, we're opening up and touring and

love both. I love concerts and I love those Netflix to Cheetos. Yeah, I you know, my grandpa loved Cheetos. I haven't had a Cheeto in a long time. I remember. Remember the cheese balls? Like the real? The planters ones. Those were

so good. No, he does stoner food. She does. Yeah, like a large Dr. Pepper and a bag of Cheetos. And you would just be, you know,

What's your guilty pleasure now for food.

And I, you know, could just normal shit cookies or, you know, wheat bins, or, you know, I mean, weird stuff like that. But I try and I try and stay healthy. We're, we're about to embark on this 2022 tour. And there's a lot of shows, I mean, a lot of shows. So I have to get myself ready for for the travel and the you know, the game.

Yeah, you got to be in shape. And then like you said, your voice you got to practice without and rehearse. And so you said it's harder. The more days you do, the harder it gets. So is that why some of Vandy? Actually,

it's the reverse, the more dealing with the easier it gets. And okay, weird. But I'm one of those guys that can sing 3456 days in a row. And I actually sound just as good, if not better.

Yeah, cuz I noticed like with the Motley Crue stadium tour, they only I don't think they do more than three days in a row. And then there was like, there's a news article that came out just a couple days ago, how they were concerned that count, the tour might be canceled again, because Vince Neil scheduled like a solo date in between the shows. So it's a little concerning.

Yeah, you know, I won't I Yeah. The thing about that stadium tours that I shouldn't go into it. But

this you should you should

know, because just, it's I feel bad for the fans who spent all that money. Because they spent all that money on the meet and greets to, you know what I mean? And that's a lot of money. I mean, they to, you know, what was it like 1000 bucks to be Motley Crue or 1000 bucks and meet Def Leppard. I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying, I feel bad for the fans that put all that money out and have to wait. It sucks. You know that it just sucks for them. You know the band guys. You know,

Yeah, I forget. Could you get your money back? Because I didn't even try. I was like, well, I'll just hang on to the tickets because they'll, they'll still be good when they come next year. And then it's now it's two years later.

Yeah, they they're, they're gonna probably hold on to that money.

But do you think that they'll happen this year? I don't know. Would you go? Would you see that show? Oh,

no. Not not, it will not nothing against them. I'm just not a spectator. I don't. My own. My wife's favorite band is night Ranger. And I know all those guys. But it's hard for me to sit and watch it a night Ranger show. But I love those guys, but it's just hard for me to actually sit and watch a show for an hour and a half. You know, I mean, I just because it's what I do. It's like guys that work in bars don't really want to go to a bar on their day off. They want to

So now it's just not Yeah, that makes sense, though. I I noticed that too, as I'm getting older. The concerts Well, you know, for me, I think I like the club shows or the smaller shows the bigger shows like The stadium tour. I mean, I don't I can't do a lot of those every year. It's it's a it's a big ordeal to be there.

I wouldn't want to be up in the bleachers at a stadium show. I just I just it's just not so Something that I would want to do you know what I mean? Even I mean going to what it'd be like going to a baseball game kinda. You know, I mean, you see them down there, you know, they they're this tall. And it's just, you know, not something I want to do.

Yeah. For baseball, I feel like every time I go to a baseball game, it's more like a social thing. Like, I'm just talking to the people. And oh, yeah, there's

a baseball game here. Dogs. Yeah.

And have talk bullshit and all that stuff. So cool. Well, this has been fun. Again, it's a great book. It's called all the devils I read the whole thing. And there's we hopefully we didn't do any spoilers. There's still a lot of stuff we didn't talk about. That's in the book that people should check it out.

Well, yeah, some of the stories are Sunset Strip related. You'll get that you'll if you know, if you're a fan of the dirt, or Tommy land, you'll get that Hollywood Sunset Strip thing. And some of the stories like a friend of mine, just read the book and he likes the horror stories. He likes the Yeah, the graphic, kind of Stephen King type stuff. And there's some of that in there. And there.

Yep. Cool. I'll put the link in the show notes. And then also, I think the last last time you're on you promoted this salvation army as a charity. So if people have a few extra bucks, they can throw it that way. And anything else you want to promote a quiet riot, of course going to be on tour.

Yeah, well, I would say you know, GZ Perl dotnet is where I sold the book and Jay pearl tv that's my youtube channel if you guys want to see me act out because and all I have all that love hate using to on my YouTube site, because people have been bitching about my Spotify. You know, stuff, why don't you put stuff because Spotify is kind of a whole different animal. So I just put it all up on my YouTube channel.

thank you to Jersey once again, the book is called all the devils and Jersey also has a new solo record coming out soon on Golden robot records. So look for that. Quiet riot is going to be hitting the road so check the website for tour dates. And if you enjoyed this episode, you can check out the other interview I did with jersey. It's episode number 161. Or check out some of my other interviews I have over 200