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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

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Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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Episodes

573 | Cognitive Behavioral Tools for FI

Most people think financial independence is about money. It isn't. Clinical psychologist Jasper Lee makes the case that 90-95% of the FI journey is psychological—the mechanics of money are just 5-10%. In this conversation with Brad Barrett, Lee unpacks the mental frameworks that either accelerate or sabotage your financial progress, focusing on two powerful tools from cognitive behavioral therapy: cognitive restructuring and behavioral activation. Key Takeaways Understanding money scripts: Early...

Nov 16, 20251 hr 7 minEp. 573

572 | Bias Towards Action: The Adventure List(s)

Tracking hundreds of life experiences sounds ambitious until you hear Emily W's simple system—and realize you've been overthinking adventure. Emily W and Emily C share practical frameworks for building richer friendships and more memorable experiences. They outline the "adventure list"—a flexible tool for capturing everything from weekend outings to dream trips—and reveal four distinct levels of travel experiences, from simple sightseeing to immersive living. Their approach emphasizes starting s...

Nov 09, 20251 hr 10 minEp. 572

571 | Getting Personal with Personal Finance: Maggie Tucker

Most people achieve financial independence and feel instant relief. Maggie Tucker felt paralyzing fear instead. At 41, after leaving a lucrative career to retire early, she found herself obsessing over worst-case scenarios—what if she ran out of money, what if she regretted walking away, what if she'd made a catastrophic mistake? Her solution wasn't to ignore these fears or push through them. She quantified them. Maggie Tucker, creator and host of Inside Out Money, shares how she built financial...

Nov 02, 20251 hr 5 minEp. 571

570 | State of the Stock Market Q&A

The S&P 500 just notched its third consecutive year of double-digit gains, pushing valuations near a 25-year high — yet market veteran Brian Feroldi isn't hitting the panic button. In this deep-dive, Brad sits down with Brian to dissect where the market stands heading into the end of 2025, why sustained growth at this pace defies historical precedent, and how Brian is personally navigating the tension between staying invested and managing risk. The conversation shifts to the practical — how ...

Oct 26, 20251 hr 4 minEp. 570

569 | Always Come Back to the Why

Financial independence isn't about becoming the richest person in the graveyard — it's about designing a life worth living right now. Brad Barrett sits down with Katie and Alan Donegan from Rebel Finance School to explore the often-overlooked foundation of the FI journey: your "why." The discussion ranges from monthly finance meetings and intentional spending to the vulnerability required to build real community. Katie and Alan share how they track every dollar — not to restrict their lives, but...

Oct 19, 20251 hr 27 minEp. 569

568 | The FiiRE Framework

Most people think FIRE is about cutting expenses and index funds. Paula Pant flips that script with her F-double-I-R-E framework—starting with the one thing traditional personal finance ignores: your psychological relationship with money. Paula Pant, host of Afford Anything, introduces her F-double-I-R-E framework: Financial Psychology, Increasing Your Income, Investing, Real Estate, and Entrepreneurship. This conversation focuses on why financial psychology must come first—understanding the beh...

Oct 12, 20251 hr 24 minEp. 568

567 | Are We Taking the Wrong Risks?

Brad and Chris Hutchins question if the FI community is overly conservative, often over-saving at the expense of valuable life experiences. They discuss rethinking the 4% rule, the true cost of working longer, and the importance of intentionally investing in memorable moments with loved ones. The conversation also explores optimizing travel with points and the psychological benefits of "forced experiences" for frugal individuals, urging listeners to shuffle their risks towards a more fulfilling present.

Oct 05, 20251 hr 17 minEp. 567

566 | Risk-Based Guardrails for Retirement Drawdown

If you've mentally locked yourself into one rigid FI number and one fixed withdrawal rate for the rest of your life, you're doing it wrong. That's the realization Brad Barrett had after nine years of hosting this podcast — and it came from Aubrey Williams, a financial advisor and longtime ChooseFI community member. In his presentation at CampFI, Aubrey introduced a more dynamic approach: using historical analysis and risk-based guardrails to adjust spending as your portfolio fluctuates. The resu...

Sep 28, 20251 hr 25 minEp. 566

565 | Tax Planning To and Through Early Retirement

Most early retirees worry they'll face crushing tax bills — yet thousands are legally paying zero federal income tax in retirement. Cody Garrett and Sean Mullaney, co-authors of Tax Planning To and Through Early Retirement , walk through how understanding the drawdown process and effective tax rates can transform retirement planning from fear-driven to evidence-based. Understanding the Drawdown Process The drawdown process—how you spend your accumulated wealth—remains one of the least understood...

Sep 21, 20251 hr 7 minEp. 565

FI Back to Basics | Jackie Cummings Koski

Most people think saving $100 a month barely makes a dent in their retirement plans. Jackie Cummings Koski, certified financial planner and author of F.I.R.E. for Dummies , shows how that same $100 can slash your FI target by $30,000—a leverage most investors completely overlook. Jackie returns after five years to break down the fundamental principles of financial independence (FI) and early retirement. Financial independence means no longer depending on a paycheck, offering options and freedom ...

Sep 14, 20251 hr 10 minEp. 564

563 | Safe Withdrawal Rates, Drawdown Strategies, RMDs and 50 Year FI Timelines

The 4% rule might be dead—but not for the reason you think. New research suggesting a 5.5% safe withdrawal rate has been making waves in the FI community, and it sounds like great news for early retirees. The problem? The math doesn't hold up when you're planning for a 50-year retirement instead of 30. Brad introduces a new ChooseFI feature where community questions get answered by financial independence experts. This episode features detailed responses from Karsten Jeske (Early Retirement Now) ...

Sep 07, 202557 minEp. 563

562 | Navigating Financial Conflicts in Relationships

Most people worry their retirement money is "trapped" until age 59½. It's not — and understanding why could reshape your entire FI strategy. Brad and Ginger tackle asset flexibility, breaking down how to think about taxable versus Roth versus traditional accounts and when each makes sense for your timeline. This episode emerged from listener questions after the recent middle-class trap discussion, addressing the practical confusion of where to actually hold your money. Key Topics Introduction an...

Aug 31, 20251 hrEp. 562

561 | Mini-Retirements: Test Driving Financial Independence

Most people plan for retirement like it's an on-off switch—decades of grinding followed by one big leap into the unknown. But what if you've never practiced living without work? Jillian Johnsrud, author of Retire Often , challenges this all-or-nothing approach by introducing a framework that's gaining traction in the FI community: mini retirements. These aren't sabbaticals to binge Netflix or catch up on sleep. They're intentional breaks—one month or longer—designed to practice the life you're b...

Aug 24, 202550 minEp. 561

Living Off the 4% Rule | Marla Taner

Marla Tanner reached financial independence in 2013 and has lived off the 4% rule ever since — through bull markets, bear markets, and a global pandemic. She recently ran the numbers on both her actual experience and a worst-case scenario retirement starting at the peak before 2008. Both outcomes? More than comfortable. Her journey challenges the anxiety many savers face when it's time to flip the switch from accumulation to spending. Timestamps: 00:01:26 – Marla's Background 00:02:04 – Living o...

Aug 17, 20251 hrEp. 560

Zero-Based Everything: FI, Travel, and the Art of Starting Fresh | Katie & Alan Donegan

Most people obsess over net worth. Katie and Alan Donegan calculate something entirely different: their freedom fund. Joined by Brad, the trio unpacks five and a half years of full-time travel, the psychological trap of dividend investing, and why zero-based thinking—"Knowing what I know now, would I choose this again?"—has become their most powerful decision-making tool. Katie and Alan share hard-won lessons from bouncing between Airbnbs in Brazil, the surprising stability they've found as digi...

Aug 10, 20251 hr 20 minEp. 559

Designing an Intentional Life | Tim Ferriss

Tim Ferriss didn't design a card game to make money—he did it because most games today actively prevent the kind of connection that matters. Brad Barrett sits down with the author of The 4-Hour Workweek and host of The Tim Ferriss Show , exploring how the principles of financial independence intersect with something most people overlook: what you actually do with your freedom once you have it. Tim shares how mentors redirected his entire trajectory, why choosing the right "game" to play matters ...

Aug 03, 20251 hr 36 minEp. 558

557 | It's Big, But Is It Beautiful? Let's Talk About It

Brad and Sean Mullaney analyze the recently passed "One Big Beautiful Bill" and its significant impact on the financial independence community. They discuss the permanence of lower tax rates and a higher standard deduction, enhanced charitable contribution deductions, and an increased state and local tax deduction cap. A major focus is on strategic planning for premium tax credits starting in 2026, including the "Bronze is Gold" strategy, and other income management tactics for early retirees. The episode provides valuable insights for navigating new tax regulations.

Jul 27, 20251 hrEp. 557

556 | Mailbag: Bond Funds, Roth Conversions, Advanced FI Strategies, Solo 401k and Backdoor Roth

Most people think bonds are the "safe" part of their portfolio — until interest rates spike and their bond fund drops 15%. Brad and Rachael Camp, a Certified Financial Planner, cut through the confusion in this mailbag episode covering bonds, Roth IRA conversions, pensions, and inheritance strategies. Timestamps and Key Topics 00:01:10 - Introduction to Bonds 00:03:15 - Bonds vs. Bond Funds 00:24:07 - Pension Strategies 00:27:29 - Roth IRA Conversions 00:45:11 - Handling Inheritance and Taxes Ke...

Jul 20, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 556

Are You Over-Optimizing? | Jesse Cramer

Most people spend more time planning a vacation than analyzing how their financial decisions ripple through their entire life. Jesse Kramer, a relationship manager at a financial planning firm and host of the Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors podcast, sits down with Brad Barrett to challenge that approach. Financial planning isn't a linear checklist — it's a web where tugging one thread can shake the entire structure. This conversation explores why resilience beats perfection, how over-op...

Jul 13, 202558 minEp. 555

From Poverty to Semi-Retired | Kristen Knapp

Kristen Knapp grew up in poverty, hit a $0 net worth at 35, and thought she'd never retire. Now she's traveling the world part-time and leading group trips for the FI community. Her path didn't follow the typical script — no high-powered tech job, no frugal-from-birth origin story — just a relentless refusal to repeat her parents' financial struggles and a willingness to figure it out as she went. Kristen shares her journey from childhood poverty to part-time work as a television meteorologist, ...

Jul 06, 202559 minEp. 554

553 | Deep Dive: Putting the Middle-Class Trap to Bed

Most people in the FI community have this completely backward: those retirement accounts you think are "trapping" you? They're actually your fastest path to freedom. Brad Barrett and CFP® Cody Garrett dismantle the so-called middle-class trap through four concrete case studies, showing why this perceived barrier exists only in our heads—not in our finances. The discussion examines how psychological barriers create false feelings of being "trapped" when wealth sits in retirement accounts or home ...

Jun 29, 20251 hr 7 minEp. 553

Unraveling Your Relationship with Money | Shannah Game

Most people think managing money is about spreadsheets and willpower—but what if your biggest financial obstacle is a story you've been telling yourself since childhood? Shannah Game, a certified financial planner and author of Unraveling Your Relationship with Money , reveals that personal finance is 90% psychology and emotion, not just numbers and logic. She explores how money trauma affects anyone—regardless of background—and how childhood experiences shape adult financial behaviors in ways m...

Jun 22, 202552 minEp. 552

Roundup: Buy vs. Rent, Mortgage Amortization, Minimalism and More

Most mortgage payoff advice treats it like a pure math problem—but Ginger's story proves emotions matter just as much. When she shares her excitement about paying off her mortgage early, Brad pushes back with the numbers, sparking a candid back-and-forth on whether a 15-year or 30-year mortgage makes more sense, whether renting beats owning for flexibility, and how to avoid overspending while chasing travel rewards points. Emotional Factors in Paying Off Mortgages (00:01:30) Ginger shares her jo...

Jun 15, 202559 minEp. 551

Getting Personal with Personal Finance: Meghan & Ginger

Most people obsess over whether they're savers or spenders—Meghan Combs thinks that's a trap. Ginger sits down with the Everyday FI podcast host to unpack her $527,000 net worth, a sub-$10,000 wedding, and why locking into a fixed money identity might be holding you back more than helping you move forward. Meghan shares her approach to budgeting after getting married, emphasizing alignment between spending and personal values. With major life changes on the horizon—including the financial realit...

Jun 08, 202547 minEp. 550

FI Service Corps

A former CPA walked away from steady paychecks in 2023 to launch an organization that didn't exist yet — one that would blend financial independence with hands-on volunteering. Ryan Brennan, founder of the FI Service Corps, is betting that the FI community is hungry for more than meetups and spreadsheets: they want connection and the chance to give back, together. Ryan's background as a CPA gave him the financial runway to step away from traditional work and pursue this vision. After leaving his...

May 25, 202551 minEp. 548

549 | Deep Dive: Taxable Brokerage Accounts

Most early retirees obsess over 401(k)s and IRAs — but they're ignoring the account that might actually matter most. Brad and Cody Garrett, CFP®, tackle the taxable brokerage account, the "most underappreciated account type" in the financial independence toolkit. While everyone chases tax-deferred contributions, taxable accounts offer something equally powerful: unlimited contributions, zero withdrawal penalties, and surprisingly favorable tax treatment on long-term gains and qualified dividends...

May 25, 202552 minEp. 549

The Simple Path Revisited in 2025 With JL Collins

Most personal finance books promise you'll need decades of complex strategies to build wealth. JL Collins made millions by saying the opposite. Brad Barrett sits down with the author whose Simple Path to Wealth has sold over a million copies and become the blueprint for an entire movement. Collins reveals why his strategy—avoid debt, live below your means, invest in low-cost index funds—has remained unchanged even as his 2025 revised edition adds new data, case studies, and a surprising take on ...

May 18, 20251 hr 7 minEp. 547

Sleep Masterclass with Dr. Bobby

Dr. Bobby DuBois returns to discuss the essential role of sleep in achieving financial independence and enhancing overall health. He addresses the worrying trend of sleep deprivation among Americans and its significant consequences on heart health, weight management, and cognitive functionality. This episode is filled with evidence-based insights and practical strategies aimed at prioritizing sleep as a vital component in the journey towards financial freedom. Timestamps & Key Topics 00:01:2...

May 11, 202558 minEp. 546

545 | Tax-Efficient Withdrawal Strategies for Early Retirement

Most people think retirement account withdrawals come with a massive tax hit—but with a few strategic moves, you can reduce your lifetime tax burden by six figures or more. Brad Barrett and tax pro Rachael Camp break down how different account types—taxable brokerage, traditional IRAs, and 401ks—are taxed, and how to time your withdrawals to keep more money in your pocket. The conversation zeroes in on strategies like Roth conversions and tax gain harvesting that give you flexibility and control...

May 04, 202554 minEp. 545

Is the Middle-Class Trap Something to Worry About? | Mindy Jensen

The financial independence community recently ignited over a single phrase: "the middle-class trap." Mindy from BiggerPockets Money coined it to describe people who look wealthy on paper—substantial home equity, healthy retirement accounts—yet feel anything but free. Chris Mamula from Can I Retire Yet? pushed back, arguing the concept might mislead more than it helps. Brad Barrett brings them both together to hash it out. The middle-class trap resonates particularly with early retirees and FI ad...

Apr 20, 202557 minEp. 543
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