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How to Choose an Ultra Running Coach

Dec 30, 202416 minSeason 3Ep. 3
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Unlock the secrets to transforming your ultra running journey.  Join me, Richard Gleave, as I share my experiences running ultras since 2017 and discuss the potential impact of having a coach, especially for those navigating new distances or feeling lost in the balance of training and recovery. With stories and practical advice, we'll explore whether a coach is a luxury or a necessity for the back-of-the-pack runners who make up the heart and soul of the ultra running community.

Discover the critical factors to consider when choosing a coach, from understanding your personal goals to finding someone who truly comprehends the unique challenges of ultra running at the tail end of races. Whether you're gearing up for your first 50k or setting your sights on epic races like the Bigfoot 200 or Cocodona 250, clarity on your aims is key. I'll share my personal anecdotes of how a coach might have saved me from overtraining and helped me conquer those grueling final miles. Tune in for actionable tips and advice that could help redefine your running experience.

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Speaker 1

Hello again and welcome If this is your first time with us . Thank you so much for stopping by . You are listening to Choose to Endure , the podcast dedicated to non-elite runners , where we share stories , interviews , gear and training tips specific to the tail-end heroes of the Ultra Universe . The tail-end heroes of the Ultra Universe .

If you haven't had a moment to do so yet , consider heading over to your favorite podcast app . Maybe hit , follow , maybe rate the show . If you're getting something of value , definitely feel free to leave us a review and let others know what you think . My name's Richard Gleave . I have been running Ultras now since 2017 .

I have taken on and finished numerous ultras distances all the way up through 220 miles , and I'll tell you , I am unashamedly a member of the back of the pack , just like many of you . Now , let's be honest . Ultra running isn't exactly a normal pastime , right , it's a sport where you end up running through the night .

You could be eating quesadillas at mile 70 and quite possibly hallucinating your way through multiple stretches of a race . So if you're thinking about hiring a coach , you probably want somebody who understands the weird , wild and wonderful world of ultra running , especially those of us at the back of the pack , so today we're going to dive into that topic .

It's been buzzing around for a while , especially now as people start setting goals for the new year . People start setting goals for the new year . This may come up how to choose an ultra running coach . Whether you've thought about hiring one before or you're just curious about what they can offer .

In this episode , I'm going to try to help you understand what to look for , what to avoid and whether you even actually need one in the first place . So lace up your shoes . We'll get into it right after this . Discover raw , inspiring stories from runners who've been right where you are .

This is the Choose to Endure Ultra Running Podcast With your host he's English , not australian richard gleave . Okay , before we even talk about how to pick a coach , let's ask the initial question first do you actually need one ? I think for 99 of runners , the answer isn't a clear yes or no . It's a maybe . I'm gonna sit on the fence with it .

A coach is definitely a luxury . It's not a necessity . You really don't necessarily need one . If you've got a library card and some grit and , yes , I'm showing my age there you can grab books like Tim Noakes' Law of Running or Jason Koop's Training Essentials for Ultra Running . You can figure out a lot of this stuff yourself .

If you've got a bit of moxie about you and if you're injury prone , a session or two with a physical therapist can give you more value than some coaches ever will . But here's where a coach can be game-changing .

If you're chasing a big goal , maybe you're venturing into a new distance or you just feel like you need somebody out there to help keep you accountable . For example , when I signed up for my first 100 miler , I was a bit overwhelmed . I'll be honest . I didn't quite know how to balance the mileage , strength training and recovery .

I barely actually did any strength training . A good coach could have saved me from overtraining and feeling like absolute crap for the last 30 miles and almost not finishing the race .

So if you're someone who needs structure , maybe some expert advice or just a voice telling you you know what you've got , this , you're going to be fine , yeah , then at that point a coach might be worth considering . So one of the first things to look for if you're going to go with a coach is to know your goals .

What is it that you're actually trying to accomplish ? Are you looking to tackle your first 50k . Are you looking to improve your finishing times , looking to conquer a race such as Bigfoot 200 , cocodona 250 , or some other huge race out there ?

Maybe you just want to stay injury-free while training for your next adventure and you've had challenges doing that up to this point . Whatever it is your goals are going to help you find a coach that fits your needs . So make sure you're clear on your goals before you go looking .

For example , if you're a back of the pack runner like me , maybe you might think twice about a coach who only works with elites . You need somebody who understands cutoffs , pacing strategies and how to stay mentally tough .

When you've been out twice as long as the leading runners and you are actually one of the last runners on the course , I've had friends hire coaches who didn't really get or understand the back of the pack experience Great coaches but they prescribe 70 mile weeks with no flexibility for work , family or life , basically treating training as if we were all elite , and

you'll know as much as I do . That's not realistic for most of us . So make sure your coach's expertise matches your goals and , if we're being honest , your reality , your life , what you're able to do . Secondly , make sure you dig in their experience . Here's where you've got to do a little bit of homework yourself . Not all coaches are created equal .

Some are phenomenal . Others are great runners who just slap the word coach on their Instagram bio runners who just slap the word coach on their Instagram bio . So what you should be doing , in my opinion , is looking for someone who has number one real coaching experience and preferably , a known credential attached to them , not just personal racing success .

Number two , look for someone who has knowledge in areas like strength training , nutrition and injury prevention , which are key areas for us at the back of the pack . And number three , as we mentioned before , look for somebody with a track record of working with runners like you .

It's definitely going to be more difficult for a coach who was an elite runner to really understand the intricacies and challenges that people at the back of the pack are facing . Those may be much different than they were used to when they were running . So look for somebody who's going to understand where you are as a runner . I've worked with coaches before .

I once worked with a coach who just sent me a generic plan from a big name program no personalization , no adjustment from my own busy schedule . Honestly and I'm being very genuine here it definitely felt like a waste of money for me . Compare that to a friend of mine who found a coach that built her plan around her chaotic life .

They proactively checked in , weekly , tweaked workouts and even discussed fueling and race day strategies for her 100-mile race and friends . That is the difference a good coach can make . Which do you think you would prefer ? All right , step three communication is pretty key as well .

If you're paying somebody let's say , $150 , $200 a month , which is a pretty decent going rate for a coach out there you shouldn't have to be the one , in my opinion , that is always reaching out to them . You are the customer here . You are paying the money , and a good coach should take the initiative to check in with you regularly , not just send a .

Discuss tweaks week to week , check how you're feeling and what more they can do to help you reach your goal . The relationship , I think , where I'm trying to go , shouldn't feel one sided . You deserve to feel like a priority because you're a paying customer , not just another name on a spreadsheet .

And , of course , when're engaged with you and they are genuinely interested in your progress , they make you feel important . They make you feel like the center of their universe , even though obviously they've probably got a whole bunch of other people they're coaching too . It's that personalization . I think that really drives the value in a really great coach .

A whole bunch of other people they're coaching too . It's that personalization , I think , that really drives the value in a really great coach versus one that's not so good . Also , make sure the plan that they come up with fits your life . This one's pretty big too , right ?

So a training plan is only good if it fits into your life and you're able to actually execute on it . If you're a back of the pack runner , chances are , like me , you've got a day job , family obligations and fairly limited training time available to you .

The coach you hire needs to be able to account for that and explain how they're going to accommodate it in the plan that they provide for you and hopefully walk you through so that not only do you have the week-to-week but you have the full scope of the plan , so that you can understand the different periodized elements of that plan , whether it's base four weeks

and then you move to a peak . For whatever it is , your coach is going to help you through that . For example , I once worked with someone who had a really unpredictable work schedule . Her coach would send her weekly plans and check in to make adjustments if she had a last minute work trip . That's the kind of flexibility that you're looking for .

And let's talk mileage as well . If you're training for a hundred miler but you can only commit to four runs a week , that's something your coach is going to need to talk to you about and find a way to make it work . So ask potential coaches about their approach to building plans for people with busy lives like you and I .

If they can't adapt or you feel like they struggle to adapt , it's possible that they aren't the coach for you . And last but not least , because we've mentioned it already , let's talk money . Coaching is an investment . It's an investment by you for you , and the price should reflect the value that you believe you're getting .

You deserve a personalized plan , regular check-ins and a coach who's with folks like you and I . Look for someone who offers value , expertise and a great connection with you , not just the big , fancy price tag or the fancy name . Okay , so let's wrap this up real . Choosing a coach definitely is a personal decision , but here again are the four key takeaways .

Number one know your goals . Figure them out in advance . Find a coach who is going to specialize in getting you to those particular goals . Number two look for real coaching experience and credentials and someone who understands your challenges as a runner , not just the ability to run fast race times .

Number three make sure their communication is proactive , not reactive , and that your coach prioritizes you . Actually , when you try to set up an interview or a call with a coach , this is your first indication of how that communication is going to go . That should give you a pretty clear idea .

And number four whatever plan it is they come up with or are going to suggest to you , that needs to fit with your life , not the other way around . Don't overpay for generic services .

If you are considering hiring a coach , take the time to interview them , ask them some tough questions and make sure before you go putting money up , make sure they're the right fit for you . And if you decide a coach isn't right for you right now , that's perfectly okay too . You can accomplish a whole bunch on your own if you need to .

There's plenty of resources out there that you can work with , including fantastic Facebook and internet communities , all right . So if you're out there on the internet looking for a coach , don't forget to subscribe to this show too . Hopefully you got some value from that . If you subscribe , you're going to get notified each time a new episode drops .

If you're enjoying what you hear , definitely feel free to follow , share and leave a review as well . That would mean the world to me . Your support helps grow the podcast , connects to more runners and spreads the word for those of us who could benefit from what we're sharing .

You can find us on Instagram and Facebook at Choose to Endure , or visit us anytime at choosetoeendurecom . I would love to hear from you , whether it's to say hello , suggest a topic or share your story . You can also email me directly at info at choose to enjoycom .

I have to tell you , interacting with listeners , just like you , is one of my very favorite parts of doing this show . I love the conversations . Please keep them coming . So until next time , get out there If you want to look for a coach , so that you have the ability to keep running long , running strong and keep choosing to endure . We'll see you next time .

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