I just wanted to give you the space for you to just tell us about Johnny Angel.
I mean, I could have been on the plane with my mom. It's just got to be a reason that I'm still here. After the pandemic happened, I slowly just started to becoming a little bit more like private, low key and just letting people know, like the bare minimum about myself.
What up, guys, I hope everyone had a really great weekend. And a special shout out to Boston Nation. I love you guys so much. I just wanted to say thank you for being so supportive and being there from day one. I love you guys so much, and you guys are going to love today's guests. One of my siblings is joining me today and I'm super happy about it. We're gonna hear from my baby brother. So let's go ahead
and get to talking. This is Cheeky's and Chill. Okay, So you guys, you have probably guessed who our guest is today. Yes, it's my other Johnny, my baby boy, who's not such a baby anymore. I feel like you guys don't really hear about Johnny, so I wanted to bring him on again. The last time he was on the show, he was on with Jenica, but this time is just gonna be him and I, just the two of us. So, Johnny Angel Lopez, how are you.
I'm good. I'm good. I'm not sure why I'm so nervous about this one.
I just like, I didn't just come back from siat to Mexico and did like a whole press conference and interviews over there and ship for the first time, which is Jackie.
I'm so proud of you, guys. They were out in Mexico, Johnny and Jack's promoting my mom's new album and it went amazing. And I'm so proud because your Spanish, Johnny has gotten so great. I'm so so proud. I got so many compliments about you.
I've really really tried my best. Yeah.
No, you're doing good. You're doing really really good. Okay, john So, first of all, those of you who may not know, I am the eldest of five and Johnny is the baby of the family. He's twenty two going on twenty three. He lives with me. He's actually in his room right now and I'm downstairs. He's very nervous. As you guys could see, I was sixteen years old
when my mom was pregnant from Johnny. And I was the one that caused my mom to go into labor with Johnny because I upset my mother because I told her that I had a boyfriend and that I really liked him and that I was not going to break up with him because she didn't allow me to have a boyfriend. It was like, she's like, you're too young,
you have to focus on school. I was like, well, I really like this guy, and you know, basically I was being rebellious, and she got so pissed at me and she went into early labor and then here comes.
John This is when you were sixteen.
I was sixteen years old. It was Junior, my very first boyfriend. His name is Enrique. They called him Junior. Do you every crazy?
Yeah, so no, it's it's just like Mom's reaction is just crazy. Like she was like letting Jenica date when she was fifteen, and like was like, I don't know cordial about everything, but with you, like it was just like a completely different thing.
That's true, But I think has to do because I'm the eldest and because she didn't know how to deal. It was always it was the first time for everything with me and my other sister, Jackie. You know, she did everything. I was like, what the heck, she's shaving her legs at eleven. I wasn't able to shave my legs until I was fifteen years old, So it was just it's fine. I don't judge my mother. I don't have kids, so I don't know what it is, but
you are kind of like my kid. Because then at six months, my mom said here because no one knew about Johnny until I think my mom was six months pregnant, and he hid he hit on my mom's tummy and then once my mom because she didn't want anyone to know. She thought it was going to in some way like hinder her her career because it was like that's when it was rising, right, john.
Yeah, it was a really unpopular time for her to have a kid, and she had just had her first sit on the radio, so it looked like she was finally going to be somebody after she had been struggling for I think like six years at that point to be like a good successful artist.
Yeah, and he was the last one and she had already was so criticized because she was a full figured woman, a single mother, and so she was just really scared of what is the world going to say, I'm having another child. She even thought about aborting Johnny quite a few times. And yeah, and that whole story is this crazy. And one day, Johnny, I'm sure he is going to write a book or go and just tell his whole
life story because it's very interesting. But I just know that he's meant to be here and meant to do great things. And I've known since he was a little boy. And I basically raise this kid. I don't have any kids, but I feel like all my siblings are like my children, but especially Johnny and Jenica, and especially Johnny because again, my mom had to go back to work. She was the motor of the family, and she said, here's this
baby boy, he's six months old. Take care of him because I have to go out and put food on our table and keep this roof over our head. And so I became his mom, his second mom. Yeah, and now Johnny's twenty two, and I don't know, Johnny, do tell us a little bit about you, because I mean, I feel like a lot of people know, but I
don't feel that they know who Johnny really is. Like who like your heart, your beautiful mind, how spiritually connected you are, everything you've been through, and the depression that you've had to deal with because losing both of your parents at the age of eleven. He lost his dad at nine and then my mom at eleven. That's a lot. That's a lot to deal with, you guys, And I
feel it so much. It's happened. Even in the past year and a half, you received a lot of criticism, and I just wanted to give you the space for you to just tell us about Johnny Angel.
Well, yeah, I feel like after the pandemic happened, I slowly just started becoming a little bit more like private, low key and just letting people know, like the bare minimum about myself, you know what I mean. Like, I just I still feel like a little bit uncomfortable about letting people in on like I guess you would say, private details in my life.
Yeah, but.
I feel like I'm in a really good place right now. This year, I think twenty two, it's been better than I've expected, and I'm much more solid grounded and I'm slowly becoming a lot more independent and it feels good.
And it feels good because.
Something it was something I was dreading for a long time, but I don't know, like the whole thing, just as you're about building credit and shit like that.
Yeah, it's crazy. I literally sit down and write down my bills now like I would watch you do.
Yeah, I feel so good about about doing it. When I do stuff like that, or if I'm organizing my life, I always need a notebook, and I think about you and Mom.
Yeah, that's where I got it from. For my mom, she always had to do lists, and I still love them. I always have them on my phone, but there's something about writing them on a piece of paper that just feels more gratifying, like you know, checking them off. And Johnny grew up like watching me doing all this stuff. And I can't even explain to you guys how proud
I am and how far we have come. You know, I'm so proud of of the young men that you've become that you are right now, john because again, you have been through a lot, and you born in the limelight. You were created in the limelight. Again, going back to when my mom got pregnant and she thought about aborting him, and how she kept him because he hid in the
Filippian tubes. It's a whole crazy story, you guys. My mom went three times to the doctor's office to try to terminate the pregnancy, and he would hide or he wasn't there, and the doctors were like, what's going on, And then finally my mom was like, no, he has to be on this earth and that's what it is. And thank God because Johnny saved my life during the hardest times. You have no idea, Guys. I always call him my little life partner because we've been through so fucking much it's insane.
And so that's like one of the ways I know God exists for real, because like I've gotten a word from like at least like three different times in my life from people like that have no idea who I am, like our story or anything. Yeah, and they've brought up about how I was rejected in the womb and stuff like that. I'm like, if God was going to kill me,
he would have done it. Buy now, whenever there's like serious like turbulence on a plane and everyone's freaking out, like like, Okay, we're going to be fine.
How do you feel, Johnny, Like now that you can look back, because guys, we went through Johnny wanting to end his life so many times, to the point where I got on my knees one day and I said, God, I don't know what else to do. Mom help me. This is especially after my mom passed away. Well that's really when it started, because he was eleven.
And even even before, yeah, well you remember, like because I found an evaluation this year that my mom did for me in August of twenty twelve.
And even then, it was they were asking me questions.
About why I had suicidal thoughts, and I was answering them, like I used to have them a lot, but I don't anymore. But then obviously Mom passed not that long after that, that's when it started again. But I mean, I don't necessarily consider myself suicidal at all anymore. There's always like that daily thing like I don't know, I just feel like you have to keep pushing forward.
And with everything you've been through, I obviously understand it. I had those moments, you know, with everything that I went through. But do you feel like it's because you're in a very good place, like you finally found your purpose that you feel, Okay, I'm here for a reason, and you really truly believe it that those thoughts have kind of they're like hopefully gone forever.
Yeah, I think so. I think I went through a big, like just spiritual awakening in twenty twenty about you know, understanding my purpose why I was here.
Why.
I mean, I could have been on the plane with my mom, very very close, and I didn't end up going with her, And I'm like, there's just got to be a reason, and I'm still here, and I'm hoping, like the first twenty years of my life were crazy, just so the next twenty years of it could be really, really beautiful, and I have a feeling they.
Are going to be.
I think so. I think so. I think you have a beautiful, a beautiful mind, and I love to hear you speed. There's so much that he teaches me. You guys, this guy is so intelligent. Both my brothers are, well,
all my siblings, but the boys just have this different mind. So, kind of going back to the limelight, do you feel because you were born in the limelight, you're a little bit more private Because even my producers, you know, they do the research for every guests we're going to have, and they were like, hey, there's not a lot on Johnny.
I feel like in the first ten years of my life, I was I mean, I was very aware, you know how smart I was. I knew who Mom was, I knew what exactly she represented, and I was very proud of it. I would have a superiority complex over that.
And I feel like I was a little bit more prone to, you know, wanting to be on stage or stuff like that, more for attention rather than passion before and then after Mom passed, I think I slowly, just like I started to not necessarily resent it, but like like, for example, we were six months after six seven months after Mom passed, doing autograph signings for the book and everything, and I knew we had to be grateful and everything because these people were giving us love and at the
end of the day, they're who fed us. But I don't know, it put me in a very weird, like limbo state with how I felt about Mom. Because funny enough, like I was very like excited whenever we would have something big, and I would still always be listening to her music. But like the way I felt towards like, I don't know, I guess being famous it made me feel weird because I also I was smart enough to know.
That, like, fuck, we gotta be grateful. We got to pick our battles.
And then fifteen sixteen is when I felt like like fifteen through eighteen mus been is when I feel like I was like in a state of like maybe maybe seeking attention a little bit more. And then nineteen twenty to right now is like where I'm like, I know who I am, I know what I want, and I don't necessarily look for attention in the wrong places anymore. Like I have solid people around me, and yeah, I'm in a really good place.
And that's an amazing thing to know at such a young age, because in your twenties is when you're still trying to figure shit out. You know who am I, what do I want? So I think that that's great. I love that you've learned, especially with your private life, that you're like, you know, I don't necessarily have to share all of it. And and I wish I would have known that, because I feel like I shared so much of my private life for so long, and I
felt it came and bit me in the ass. And now I just like to especially with my relationship with the media, I'm like a little bit more private with it, and I just it's more sacred. I'm like, I don't feel that need to have to share that part, Like it's just and I think it's probably because we did reality for so long where we're like I've felt at least, well, I already did it. I did reality, like I have to share my life now and that's not necessarily the case.
Like I'm still human at the end of the day. We're still human and people shouldn't take it bad, like for what you just said, Like it's not that you were being an ungrateful kid. It's just you lost your mom while she was working on a plane to go work, and people need to also see that side. It's like, oh, well, you're famous and your mom this and you're say, wait a second, but I'm still human. This is still my experience.
Yeah, that's exactly how I feel about it, because.
I feel like there's certain things I feel like you can let people in on, and if you let them in too much at one point on once you try to be private over something, then they think what you're backing.
Up for, like they resent it.
Yeah, like while you're acting brand new and.
I got a lot of that, like, well, well, you shared all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, and I learned from it, so I don't necessarily want to share everything, and I think that that's cool. It makes you even cooler to be like, you know, I don't share, and I don't. It's not even that I don't want to share, it's just Jano man Nasko month this. I'm just like,
I'm not trying to share everything. I want to enjoy the moment because for so long I didn't because I was so wrapped up in social media and doing this and it's just like, wait, like I deserve to also have this for myself, you.
Know, even something like I learned like a long time ago when on Instagram, like when I would like when I would attag people, I sneak tag them because then just because they were connected to me, and some people thought it was cool and everything that other people were thought like it was kind of weird. And I just like, no matter what, I just want whoever associates with me to be able to have a normal life.
Right Yeah, Because I've also feel bad because there's people that have been around us that get backlash people that like us and start talking crap to them or follow them for the wrong reasons, and then later on we don't talk to that person for whatever reason, and then they it's just it's a whole cluster fuck. But I get that. And and bottom line here, guys, is that we are very grateful and we know who our mom is and we're so grateful for everything that her career brought.
But also, guys, can't forget that at the end of the day, we have feelings, we have our own thoughts. We've gone through so much publicly. Mikey, our brother, he's always want to say, you know, for a long time, he resented my mom's career because he felt like that's what took her from us, and we had to share her for so long with the world that it was just we we didn't have a lot of time with her,
you know. So that's a whole other episode. But talking about Mom, John, and I know this might be a heavy question, but sometimes I go back to those days of like how it was when Mom passed, because you know, everything was just so weird between her and I and it was tough, you know, like going back to that when you found out about Mom's passing. Obviously there's a huge difference in age. You know, you were eleven now
you're twenty two. And I think that I bring up this question too, because I remember you telling me, You're like, I'm so scared of getting to the age where I lived longer without my mom than with her. Yeah, how do you feel about that now? Because you're what, you're going to be twenty three, so it's going to be eleven years soon.
I've been thinking about that a lot, actually, I think. I don't know, it's just a very very weird thing I think about. I didn't think about it like this much with my dad, but I think I thought about it more with Mom, just because she's just because Mom's presence has been so loud in our lives, you know what I mean, It still doesn't feel like she's left.
That's something I even say about Like Jayla, I believe her when she says she has glimpses of memories with Mom, because Mom never necessarily stopped being around, whether it was music or video or anything like that, like when people pass in a normal family, like they don't have what
we have. I don't know, she's still just this present even after all this time, and I don't know she's still teaching me things I feel like even more so, like in the last three four years, like I've learned so much from her, like just as as a human being and thinking about how she would want me to be better. Way she handles situations, like she's still teaching me.
It's crazy, yeah, And I feel that because thank goodness, you know, we have the reality show to look back on and certain things that she said, and I feel like she's still teaching us and stuff that you're finding, even like her notepad, you know, it's like little hidden messages that she's leaving us. But I think more than anything you because you spent less time with her, you know. So I feel like all these hidden gems, the music, the notepads that you find, it's all gifts for your
heart and your mind, you know. And it's like I smile and I'm like, she's still here. She's still here, Like like I know she's not here, but she's here. Like she does some crazy shit, you guys are, I'm like, that's mom, mom, god, whatever you want to call it. She's moving things around, She's still doing her Jenny magic is how I always call it. Right, How has it been to be raised by me? Be honest. I know I've been tough. I know I was tough, and I'll
say you, guys, I was a tough one. I had to be though, raising a boy it's tough.
Yeah.
I think you did a really solid job with with not just me, but with Jenika too. It feels weird to talk about yourself, say like, oh, I'm a good person like this, like that, Like it's just because we're we're af lout at the end of the day. And I don't want to come off with egocentric, but I think I think I do my best to be a really fucking good person, and I think a lot of the time I just think about.
Like how how it reflect on you and how you would expect me to be.
I mean, whether I'm at whether I'm at someone's house or doing interviews or something like just like you said, like people have been like telling you things about about me that, yeah, it makes me feel good.
I mean that, Okay, I'm doing the right thing. So I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not a perfect person, but I think given every thing I've been through, I think I'm pretty solid.
I agree, I completely agree that's what I'm saying. I am proud when people from Mexico send me messages that haven't messaged me in months. Hey, I just interviewed your brother and your sister. They are so sweet. They're so intelligent, like Johnny no sore, no, like just so many things, and how respectful you are. And I'm just like, oh, I can't help but be like, thank you God, Mom. We did a good job. You and I we did it, you know. So that makes me for sure very happy.
And you know, some people might think, like, oh, it's weird that you know, Johnny's gonna be twenty three and he still lives with his sister. And I don't see that weird at all. And I'm gonna tell you, guys, why, Because you.
Lived in the house until you were twenty seven.
Exactly, because I lived exactly because I lived at Mom's house until I was twenty six twenty seven. And I seriously, my plan was, I'm gonna live with you forever, even if I get married, my husband's gonna move in here, or I'm just gonna grow old with you like that was.
That would have been Mom's ideal things. She would have gotten a giant house for all of us to live with, all our.
Kids, a total freaking Latin family. You guys. My mom was like dra gon sale Sposo, bring the sway, I getta bring everyone. She never wanted her kids to leave the nest. And it's crazy because that was the plan for so long. You know. Okay, one time I was gonna get married the very first time I got engaged, and the whole plan was he's going to move in with us, and that obviously didn't work out. But then when my mom asked me to move out that one year she passed away. It's crazy because I feel like
everything happened the way it was supposed to. I didn't understand it then. Obviously, I was like, what the hell is going on? Like, we have a plan, mom, but it was to prepare me to be strong enough to withstand what was coming, you know. And it was not even what six months before she passed or a little bit more than six months, but it was just it was just crazy. And do you feel, Johnny, that everything happens for a reason? Do you really really feel that?
I know it sounds like a cliche, but do you feel like, given everything we've been through and how it's been, do you feel like everything has happened the way it was supposed to happen.
No, I really feel like even if God allows something horrible to happen, like it's going to have reasoning behind it, you know what I mean, Like because people are e free will at the end of the day.
But I do, I really do feel like we we.
Come here with lessons that we have to learn, and we know what we're signing up for, like our souls, and we're just here to learn absolutely as.
Human involving creatures, yes, and talking about evolution and change and things happening for a reason. I'm going to ask another question, and again, guys, we didn't prepare at all, which is why I think Johnny was so nervous in the beginning. And if you don't want to answer.
It, you don't, yeh. But I liked it better like that though.
Yeah, me too. I like to win things. I like to be surprised. Okay, So my question is all the shit that happened starting last year or was it this year? Anyways, the whole thing with the accounting with the extended family, the one really that sparked everything was you. You know, you had been asking me to do it, to do the accounting for months and months and months years actually I'm lying years since you were I want to say, sixteen fifteen, and I just didn't want to steer the pot.
I didn't want to open up a kind of worms. I was just like, no, like at that time felt you know, it's our family at the end of the day, whatever, you know, do you regret it? Do you regret because you got a lot of shit for it? And that pissed me off, you guys, because as his older sister, as his mom, I was just like watching this and I can't help but to defend my siblings. And I'll
go to freaking war for my siblings, you know. And I'm more of like peace and love, but especially when they're in their right that's where I get very defensive. But do you regret doing that? Do you feel like it was the right thing to do? Are you happy? Because it has been tough?
You know, Honestly, I really don't regret it, and if anything, I just regret not having done it sooner. Truth be told, I only didn't do it because I really didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, rustle anyone's feathers. But I got to a point where, you know, there was just certain things I couldn't ignore, and I just exiled myself from my family, and I figure, you know, I got nothing to lose at this point, so I'm just going to
do it. It happened, and I think, honestly, once the smoke settled, it became one of the most peaceful times in my life. Honestly, I can't say I can complain at all. Like I'm just very very happy with where I'm at. And I think I just keep getting confirmation from God the universe, whether you know it's through the Bible or stuff I find at the office, Like you know, what I did was the right thing, confirmation.
Yeah, and see, and a lot of people have this misconception, and I'm fine with it now. I don't I don't really don't care. But where it was like I forced you, I forced you to do that. And it's like you, guys, if you guys only knew how intelligent, how freaking why is this manned? Because now he's a young man, he's been since he was a child. Johnny was at six years old, and you guys could probably find these videos
on YouTube. I don't know if they're still there. He was six years old, making moving what do they call poppy with the legos?
Well stop motion lego movies. You can't find you can't find them anymore because I have them all on private.
But John should upload them.
John, I can't. I can't, can I just can't.
My mom and I would be like, dude, what like you guys should read on it because I don't really know like the definition definition of an indigo child, but my mom was told that Johnny was an indigo child, special gifted kid. Well, yes, at six years old, he was doing this in hours and building the legos and making the move and making them talk. So just putting that out there, okay, I mean, hopefully one day he'll let you guys watch them because it's pretty crazy, but
there's no way. I've just always been that type of sister to say I'm gonna I have to respect you guys as individuals and you guys have a mind of your own. And when Johnny was eighteen, I said, okay, like I have to respect this, and he's been asking for it for a long time and I didn't do it for whatever reason, and a part of me really does regret it as well. I'm like, fuck, I should have done this sooner. But you know, everything happens when
it's supposed to happen. Los Santos. And now, like you said, right now, John, I completely agree with you. This has been the most peaceful time in our life since Mom left. I really think so separating ourselves from certain situations and certain things, and it's just I feel the liberty to just be myself. It's crazy.
Yeah, I get exactly what you mean.
I just feel solid, like I know who I am I and I don't necessarily have to, you know, act a certain way to please anyone anymore.
Oh yeah, yes, And I want to say thank you. I don't know if I've even thank you. Now. What's the best and worst thing about being raised by me?
I think the best thing was, honestly, like your lessons, like you just had ever since I was little.
You had this way.
Of like just keeping me optimistic and like just trying to put light in my life. And it wasn't necessarily like through like religion or anything, but you made it very You made God like a very clear presence of my life ever since I was a little boy. All you guys did Mom, Jackie you, but I remember, like just the way you presented him and the way you
just presented life to me. It taught me so much from a young age, and I didn't start understanding it a lot more until I was like nineteen, until these last three four years, and then I.
Think the worst thing.
I think the worst thing is that, like let's say I was like thirteen or fourteen, and I was like on a streak of like being really fucking good. Like let's say I was really trying to be good and I did something small by accident, you seas you would like react the worst or like you want to beat my ass. But granted, it was a really it was a really tough time in your life too.
It was a tough time. But you know what, I will be honest with you guys. You guys know that I'm super transparent. I believe in disciplining your children, and I definitely disciplined Johnny, and I felt like he was the type of kid. Not all kids need it, but I feel like Johnny needed it, you know what I mean, Like I was like you need Like I was very strict and sometimes a little too strict. I won't say that I wasn't because yeah, you were strict, but you I believe I did that.
You were you were strict, but you also gave me so much fucking independence, Like you let me walk by myself through the streets taking the metro card to give me like that kind of independence.
I don't think I've ever really talked about that publicly, but like.
Thirteen fourteen, fifteen, like for a good two to three years, I was like getting myself to school in them trail certain places, you know, just I figured I figured out the whole bus system. And I'm sure you were wor shitless all the.
Time, so I don't know. I don't know how fresh after.
Losing Mom you let me do that, But honestly, I'm really glad you did because it character shifted me a lot.
Well, I had to, because a part of me was like I want to protect him, and then sometimes I was too overbearing, and then I was like I have to also allow him to figure it out the way Mom made me do it. And I feel like I can't keep holding his hand although I wanted to and I still want to. I'm like, okay, wait, I have to just be like okay, Johnny, go just go, and I have to leave you in God's hands and that's
what I do. Now, I'm like, okay, Lord, now you know he drinks, and he knows he better not ever drink and drive. He knows this already. But I'm just like, okay, God, just take care of him for me and Nimo.
You know.
Now now he's starting to party, you guys. Now he's liking the party life. But for a long time he didn't. I always knew. We're telling was in his room. Now Johnny's going to freaking raves.
You know.
And I'm like, Okay, he's living his life. You should do that in your twenties, absolutely, And all I have to do is just God.
It actually took me a long time to get into that that phase in my life though, and I'm happy to know. Yeah, and I think I've done it in a really responsible way.
You have. You're very responsible. You're very honest with me, and I'm like, Johnny, where are you? And I have his location and it's just you know what I mean, Not because I'm trying to be controlling, but I just want to make sure I know where he's at. He's fine. I feel like with your kids, if you the more you want to be controlling and hold him tight the more they want to rebel. So I'm just like, well,
Nimo just got to kind of let him do his thing. Yes, he lives under my roof, and he has to respect certain things, but at the end of the day, he's still a young man. Okay, Now let's talk about Emilio Johnny, because you know, doctor Black, that's what you call him.
Yeah, and he lives here.
With us now, and yeah, I love that you guys love each other. Thank God, thank god you guys. Honestly, you have no idea how much peace my heart feels. And they text each other so much, like they tell each other that they love each other, and it's just like, it's really nice. They have a really nice bond. When I'm gone, they go to Korean barbecue together. So how do you feel? Are you excited or you more nervous
about me getting married? Okay, guys, so we're gonna end this conversation here, but stay tuned for part two of this conversation with my baby brother Johnny. We'll bring that episode to you Mayana tomorrow, so stay tuned for that. Besitos. This is a production of iHeartRadio and the Micudura podcast Network.
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