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Todos Los Topics with Whitney Cummings

Sep 19, 202235 minSeason 1Ep. 53
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Chiquis welcomes the very funny and always unapologetic Whitney Cummings. The comedian talks about fame, being successful in a male-dominated field and why she believes some women are confusing the difference between empowerment and entitlement. The two also discuss getting older, dating younger men and Whitney shares her egg freezing experience.

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Hello everybody, and welcome to cheek Ease and Chill. I have some very exciting news to share. So Apple Podcasts has this program called Spotlight. Basically, they pick one podcast they love and highlight it for an entire month so that more people can find it. That's right. Apple's editorial team listens to thousands of podcasts and they chose cheek Ease and Chill. It's the first I Heart podcast to

be highlighted, so I'm super excited about this. So if it's your first time listening to the show, welcome, and I'm so happy you're here. And if you've been with me for a while, you know how I feel about you. A. Chickens and Chill is my comfort zone. I talk about anything and everything. Since I have you here, I wanted to remind you of some of my favorite episodes. We have one on cheating a betrayal, losing my mom Jenny, and a really important one with my fertility doctor on

freezing my eggs. And of course I've had interviews with some special guests, so be sure to check those out too. New episodes drop every month to you guys, rate subscribe to Chickens and Chill. Don't forget now, let's start the show. The one and only Whitney Cookie fame has changed. People either come up to you, they know what you've had for breakfast, They've seen all my specials, and their friend is like, who's that. I was taught like you need to have your children early so that you can grow

up with them. That stuff is wild to me, And I think the reason that I actually am chill about the kids thing is I froze my ex when I was thirty three. Younger guys know that dating younger girls is an actual liability. Twenty year old aren't that good at sex? Yeah, they're still learning. I know. I wasn't that great in my twenties. Hello everyone, Oh my goodness, I am so excited for today's episode. It's going to be a really great one. That's because I have an

incredible guest with us today. In my opinion, she's one of the funniest people on the planet and I can't wait to talk to her. So let's get into this. This is chickies and chill. I almost feel like this person doesn't even need an introduction. She's a comedian, actor, writer, producer, director, and podcast host. She also just released her fifth comedy special Whitney Cummings Jokes on Netflix. Now you guys, okay, our guest is the one and only Whitney Coomings. How

are you, Whitney. I feel like I just witnessed a like a broadcasting math class. I wanted to do it really nice for you. Okay, but the things that you guys, they're gonna cut out a couple of things that I just witnessed. But I just witnessed the most pro badass gangster ship. Like that was incredible. And you know what else you didn't do that was you know what, keep all that in or pull it and put it on something.

Because I want people to see the way that you handled like you said something away that you didn't even actually want to and a lot of people and they do, they go, oh, I said that wrong, and they go sorry you start and they get all. You just were like, no, this is what human beings do. And I'm just gonna fix it and not waste everybody's time with my perfectionism ship. And you just went when you said something, You're like, she's here up Take three and one too, and she's

with us today. That was incredible, Thank you so And then you also said something that just made me fall in love with you, and I'm gonna steal this, which is someone off camera asked you if you wanted something, and you can answer you just went surprise me. Yeah, you know what when I don't know what the hell I want? I'm like, you know that was that was actually my assistant to say, what do you want to eat? I was like, I don't know, surprise me. I was like,

just make me happy today. I mean, but that's a magical way of looking at instead of like, you know, I want my sugar snappiece with it. You just surprised me, and then the person that works for you gets to actually feel valued and that's an incredible thing to do for the people that work for you. Thank you. For those of you who don't know who Whitney comings is, sorry, you're just you need to know, you need to know.

You need to follow her on Instagram. But really quick, don't you think there's a new kind of fame, Like fame has changed. There's like people either come up to you, they know what you've had for breakfast, You've changed their life. They have tears streaming down your face. They've read my book, they've seen all my specials and then their friend is like, who's that. People either know you so well or they have never heard of you. Absolutely, I completely agree with you.

It's like it's I'll go on in the world and like I'll go to you know, the airport, and someone will be crying like I know everything about you, and they'll they'll know more about me than things that I've talked about that I forgot about them, like so, how's your knee, I'm like what. I'm like, oh, that's right, I had any thing. And then the next person, like I'll be at Starbucks, I'm like what's your name And I'm like Whitney And They're like what Whitney what? And

I'm like nothing, nothing completely. I I totally get it. Absolutely. When did you realize that you were funny? When did you realize they you wanted to be a comedian? You know, it's interesting because aspiring to be a female comedian was never on the table. It's kind of like more unlikely than like the president of the United States, the idea of you know what I'm gonna there's no proof really that anyone wants to hear a woman complain for an hour and you have to pay them, and if you

challenge them or talk back, security removes you. Like there's you know, I think most people are like I don't want to hear my own wife talk that long, or my own girlfriend, or you know. So I saw growing up a lot of men that were shushing women, that were like, stop whining, stop complaining, that women's feelings were a burden. You know, women's feelings were dramatic and hysterical

and hyper vigilant. We were crazy, we're psychos. And I watched that and then, you know, I would watch women be kind of shape shift for a man and trying to sort of be this perfect step housewife, and then when the guy wasn't around, it was hilarious. It was just like joke, joke, burn burn, you know, and I was like, this is so fun I know, this is funny. I think that, you know, guys are so trained to believe as soon as a woman has an opinion, or as soon as a woman you know, she's you know,

judging you, she's emasculating you, whatever. But I was like, I know the medicine that I got growing up. You know, my favorite show growing up is also Roseanne, where it's a family that's just roasting each other. That's how That's how my family we would just make Thanksgiving Christmas. I mean, looking back, it would probably be categorized as like emotional abuse today. And also my last name is Coming, so I also got bullied so much. I had to learn to be able to defend myself. And is it still

very now that you're like in it? Like, is it still very male dominated? You know? It's interesting because I don't think it has is a bad thing if something is dominated in some way, like no one complains about like women dominate the field of nursing, like no one's men aren't mad about that. You know. It's like the veterinary practice. Federate vets are women. There's some things that

it's okay. It's just doesn't matter, you know. I think that when we get so wrapped up and this is male dominated, the men in comedy are more sensitive than most of the women I know. So it's like, is it male dominated these guys? I've seen most of these men cry over a negative comment on Twitter. Now that you just said that, I guess it's been embedded, you know, And I've seen it in my genre, it is more male dominated but now that you said it that way,

I'm like, you know what, I like that. I'm gonna adopt that because I'm like, you know what, You're right, we have some masculine qualities which are traditionally masculine. I think those labels just have to change. And I'm not saying it we're all one gender. I have my own thoughts about all that. Ship That's what my whole New

Hours about. But this is like comedians. You've heard their podcast and the reason they're all getting so successful and going to this other level, Dak Shepherd and Loot and all the it's because they're being vulnerable. They're going on podcasts or they're going up on stage and they're going I feel insecure, I have depression. That's what the women are supposed to be doing, talking about their feelings. And then I go on stage and I'm just like I'm doing the dick jokes and I'm like, i feel like

I'm the only man doing comedy, you know. So it's like it's really hard because comedians have a lot of traditionally feminine qualities, and the women that do it have some traditionally masculine qualities. So it's kind of like I get it give and take in a weird way. Yeah,

I kind of like put. But in terms of you know, I think that the domination of the business because now the internet on YouTube able to do podcasts, there's less skatekeepers, and the gatekeepers used to be male, and now the gatekeepers, you know, if anyone it's going to be like the YouTube algorithm or whatever. So I think it's it's changing, but I don't think it necessarily has to, because comedy is a reflection of what's going on in the world, and comedy is fashion, and to make a comedian takes

a really long time. So I believe that there's a lot of female comedians right now. They're in the gestation period. So it can't change right away. You can't just go, we want more female. They haven't been made yet. They haven't been inspired enough to get into this business by the people like us, you know, because when Phillis Diller made Joan Rivers and then a couple others, and then Joan Rivers made you know, Sarah and a couple others.

So it's gonna keep getting bigger. But I always tell female comics they're so eager now to go, like we want this to be equal, but it's like, you're you don't have the skill yet, and the worst thing you can do as a female comedian is gets seen before you're ready, and then it's well, female comics suck. We knew it. People are like, oh, maybe I feel like a bad feminist when I say this, but I'm like, yes, you are a female, Yes you're funny, but you've only

me doing this for three years. You don't deserve to be on that stage yet. You're so fucking honest, I love. I'm just telling you. I'd say the same thing to you know, but the guys are on stage. He's been doing this for thirty years. So you're gonna get on stage and you're gonna suck because you're it's not ready yet, and then you're gonna sort of re enforce all of

these stereotypes that are holding you down. Dude, I wish that you were my freaking friend when I started my career as a singer in I would have saved myself so much fucking trouble, because that's exactly what it is. It's like they already want to say, Okay, girls suck at singing by because it's very, very like masculine type of music, and so I wasn't ready and I came out and they brought out a song and it's just like sy I told you guys, exactly what you said.

I'm like, oh my god, that's what the freak happened. But you know what, fuck it. It's been how many years now, almost like eight, So yeah, it's but it's also I've done a lot of things before I was ready. I think I wrote a book before I was ready, at a TV show before I was ready. Like, I know what it's like to like have the talent and do the hard work. The key is having faith that it is going to happen, and you only know in your heart. You have to know in your heart that

you're gonna put the work in. But I think a lot of women right now are confusing the difference between empowerment and entitlement. And it's not empowering for you. You don't get to go on stage before you're ready. It's like it's like being an athlete. You don't get to get be in the game yet, you're not a starter yet. Being a woman now, in terms of like this being a strong feminist or being empowered, it doesn't mean bullying and guilting people into giving you something you don't deserve

just because you're a girl. Yeah, I believe for all of us women, because I think we're all wired to believe we have such a short window because we're gonna expire, we're gonna get old, we're gonna get whatever. That's the self limiting belief that keeps us down. So it's like, yes, that's a it was put on us. But when you go, the best is yet to come. Bitch, Like, I'm gonna get hotter as i get older, I'm gonna get strong, I'm gonna get back. My life is not over at

thirty five. I don't get to send out to pasture. That's fucking bullshit. Most of the people to buy tickets products are women, and women do not mind if you have crows feed. They don't mind if you have the flabby arm. They don't give a shit. So stop living your life according to the male gaze of Oh I'm running out of time because I'm gonna be old soon. That's their ship. It's all about the talent, the gift and what you have to sell and take off that expiration.

I'm gonna have kids, by then, so I'm not gonna be able to achieve my goal. Moms are actually after you give birth, you have more testosterone. Moms are actually better at running businesses because they also get better at time management. The mom brain is better. All these things that we were told are going to hold us back are actually part of our superpowers, so let's just lean into them. Getting older is a good thing as a woman.

I got it. I got it, and I'm so happy I asked you because I'm learning showing me to see things differently as well in my genre. So thank you for that. I think we all learned a freaking lesson right now. How old are you, Whitney? Just during forty? That's right, you did have a birthday? When was it in? Um? September? Four September? Yes, double burgo, thank you? Okay, so tell us I love that. I honestly, you're just inspiring me

right now, because sometimes I do get that. It's like I have no children, and my god, I'm thirty seven and I'm not necessarily ready right now. But it's like I was taught, like you need to have your children early so you can grow up with them and you know, have energy and I'm just like, dude, I'm living. I'm chilling right now. But also, the worst thing for a kid is to be brought in the world before you're ready. Mom has so much career like that stuff is wild

to me. And I think the reason that I actually am chill about the kids thing is number One, Um, I froze my eggs when I was thirty three, and it is something I talked at length about in my book because I feel like I have to shout this from the rooftops. Because number one, when you freeze your eggs, it takes this pressure off. You know, in your thirties, when you're dating and you can only date someone through

the lens of will they be a good father? We can't help it, but we do that, right, Or that you're dating someone at thirty four and you start lowering your standards because you feel like you only have a couple of years is left, so you start negotiating with yourself, right, So the older you get, the lower your bars becomes. Like oh, yeah, I mean he does have a chain wallet,

but what am I gonna do? Start over? But like, you know, yeah, he does follow thirty porn stars on Instagram, but like what am I. I mean, I'm thirty four. What am I gonna start from scratch? Like? This is the best I can do given the biological limitations I have. So number one, it took off those biological limitations. And you want to freeze your eggs young because they now have the technology that has just been actualized where they can freeze the eggs for ten years and they do

not get freezer burn in the d thawing process. So you have your thirty three year old eggs, which is the higher quality ones. You can put them into surrogate, you can use them whatever. But I cannot tell you

the difference that made in my life. It is not cheap, which is why I tell people like, like, young girls, ask your parents for your graduation gift and your birthday gifts just like for five hundred bucks a year and start putting it in the thing and then you'll have ten grand eventually to be able to do this or whatever it costs. It's kind of different for everyone. Also, the more we talk about it, the goal is to get it covered by insurance and your company should be

paying for this. Every woman should have access to egg freezing. Google started doing it, Yahoo, I think, and Facebook have done it already. I don't know if I want to freeze my eggs with Facebook, but um I'll take their money, Like, can you just send me the cash, Like I don't want to. I don't want your egg freezing chamber out there. Um to. You're taking our data and our genetics, Like I don't know about that. So that is huge, huge, huge in terms of being able to take that weight off.

But also I have a very strong like instinct to adopt, like, I know that's something that you know for me. I like to go, I know what my genetics are, I know my DNA genetics. Load the gun environment pulls the trigger. But I feel like I would be so paranoid because I have so much addiction in my family and mental illness. Of this kid having it, and there's eight thousand kids in Appalachia that were born into the federal crisis and

what happens in foster care. Just I think about it all the time, Like you know, a sexual abuse with physical abuse, they put them on all these drugs. So it's not like trying to be a hero, it's just that might be the best fit for me personally as someone who's kind of scared to have biological kids because I know sort of what would be loaded genetically in their brain. That's crazy because I've thought about that. That's one of the reasons why I've held back and I

have thought about adoption. So now that you're like saying it, you're saying so many things that I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, I haven't said it out loud because I'm like, how is that going to sound? But the truth is because everyone knows my family. But it's just like, I'm a little scared about it. But you can still have a biological kid. I mean, you could still one of my best friends. But I had a kid biologically at forty two, and then another one at forty three. She wasn't even trying.

A lot of women do need help in that area, but we all deserve another ten years or twenties were basically unconscious. Our thirties is like, Okay, now I'm getting my business started and things are finally cracking for me. If I brought a child into this world right now, I'd be a bad mother, Like, don't pressure me to bring a child into this before I found the father. I got to find the perfect father first, with the

perfect s firm, don't or whatever it is. But the irony is, I think the people that are the most trepidaious about having kids are the ones that are the most qualified because they're thinking the way you think. That's why you will be such a great mother, because you're you're waiting and doing it when it's right, not for reasons associated with guilt. Yeah, I don't want to feel pressured or do things because I feel forced, you know.

And I've been trying for a while to freeze my eggs, but I had like the situation with my ovar ease, and I had sister whatnot, so I had to wait. So I'm gonna start hopefully in October. But by the way, thank god you even just went in. Would you have found out about the cist thing? Oh? Yeah, that's how I found out that I had one in there and that if I went through the process, it was just going to make my sisters grow bigger and bigger. So how many how many cycles did you go through? I

just did one. I did one of stabbing myself with the hormones. But it was actually kind of a thing because I had been on birth control pills for so long and I have to be on them from my ins and stuff. But I had been on birth control for so long that by the time I went off it, it took a couple of months to bend straight to start the cycle so that I could then start the shots.

It was also very emotional, like I tell people, like freezing your eggs not only because you're getting you know, shot up with estrogen, and you're more emotional anyway, because you're basically getting pregnant. I mean, you get four months pregnant essentially, and you're getting pregnant with all these eggs, and ideally the younger you are, the more you'll get, you know, And you've got eighteen eggs that are super swollen. It's there's that of just the biochemical stuff and the

neurochemical stuff. But I just was angry, and I was like, I have to drive to a doctor forty five minutes three times a week just because I'm a woman, Like I was promised that women could have everything. It made me angry of like we talked about sexism in Hollywood, We'll talk about sexism. No one talks about how sexist biology is. But I don't know who to be mad at God, Like our bodies are the most sexist ship. My own body is rotting. It knows my of all

people should know how well things are going. And now you're gonna rock on me, you think, I like, it just made me angry. It made me angry that there are these biological limitations we have. Is the better you get as a woman, the more season the more intelligent, the less pregnant we can get. Whereas a fifteen year old who knows jack shit about fuck she can get pregnant easily. Why does our biology want the dumbest people

to get pregnant the fastest. Yeah, I'm just like that. Honestly, I'm not gonna lie like i've I've been holding back because I'm like, damn, I'm already okay, I'm a cancer,

you know. So I'm already kind of emotional, and I'm like, I'm trying to meditate to like not be so freaking emotional, but then I'm gonna be injecting so many hormones in my body that I'm like, I feel like I do need to take two three weeks off because I don't know how irritable I'm gonna be, how emotional I'm gonna be, Like all that ship scares the funk out of me.

To be honest, do like I would like a self care staycation of like all the movies and shows you need to catch up on and like have your girlfriend stopped by, you know, like I wish I had done that. I didn't do that. I didn't treat myself with tender, loving care when I froze. I was mad at my body, and I think that had I had a brain like yours and been like, you know what, I'm gonna take two weeks off and actually, do you know, take care

of yourself. I didn't think that way. I was like, I just have to jam this in between all the other things I have going on, and I'm it was like a resentful chore. But I was just emotionally not in acceptance at the time of like oh, or of

you know. I made this movie about neuroscience called The Female Brain, and it's about sort of the differences between male and female brains, and um that healed me from my anger towards all of the ways that women are labeled as crazy, sensitive, emotional, because actually all of those are superpowers that are why the our species proliferated in tribal times before street lights before security guards, you know, being hyper vigilant. So you say crazy, I say hyper vigilant.

You mean I just have superhero ing And I can feel with my gut that your excess texting you because I'm fucking psychic and like you're gonna and they gaslight us into going like, well, you're crazy because we're magical. We're magical witches, you know. So it's like we're obsessive about squeezing zits on your Yeah, that is how we used to expunge infection from the body. Grooming serves a really important and purpose in human history two thousand years ago.

That could mean the difference between life or death. That's why we get serotonin from squeezing zips and pulling hairs and stuff like that. So when I was in the space of freezing my eggs, I was just so mad at my body. And then you're like, wait a second, I can make a person like I can feel if who someone's texting, Like, we have all these incredible superpowers, and I'm like, you know what, the freezing eggs thing, we can take about put them in. I am literally

a magician. I'm a I am Harry Potter at this point you know. So it helped me change in the way I looked at the things that I felt like we're holding me back as a woman. You know, I swear everything we've talked about he has helped me so freaking much. So this is like, now I'm gonna look at it that way. I'm gonna just meditate my way through it. And it's also like when I have a criticism of myself in stopping and just I like to think all of our thoughts because most of our inner

monologue is not ours. Most of it is the messages we got growing up, or the survival instincts and coping mechanisms that we developed, and the stories and the narratives that we need to believe in order to rationalize whatever was going on in our family of origin, like in our household growing up. So the idea of like, you know, mom won't pay attention to me, while I must be ugly and I'm not lovable and I'm I have to

be perfect, but whereas she's just busy. But but children don't know the difference, and to self soothed, they have to make a narrative to make it their fault, because it's they have to keep their parents on a pedestal. Otherwise you'll go crazy, like you can't the thing that's responsible for your survival of that young of an age if you think they're flawed in anyway, it's just too annihilating to the psyche and you're in too much danger all the time, So you have to blame yourself. And

so those self limiting beliefs or whatever. Ancestral trauma, ancestral programming. A lot of people don't talk about enough of, like how we get epogenetic like imprinting in utero the same way that a crack baby is addicted to crack, because those were the chemicals that were in the body when the baby's ingestation. The neurochemicals also do the same thing, adrenaline, cortisol.

So if you are in utero and a mom who was stressed out in a bad marriage, you know, which all of our moms had stressed Let's even if they didn't they did, that was just that generation. So I was an accident. So I was the second, you know, And so she was stressed out and dealing with the first baby and dealing with this one that's coming, you know. So I was born addicted to adrenaline and cortisol, and

I would subconsciously gravitate towards it all the time. I was the person that was dating drug addicts and guys that were married, but didn't tell me to just chaos and then just a little lesson I've learned in life. Anyone who says they hate drama loves drama. So I was the person that was like, but I just hate drama, but I hate drama, but I'm the one driving to his how suck. I was so subconscious, it was so like I needed that neurochemical balance because that's familiar, you know.

It was that that was my equilibrium, you know. So I think also learning what your threshold is for adrenaline courts all based on your ancestral trauma and your family of origin, because basically we tend to Harvill Hendricks wrote this amazing book, Um Psychiatrist about how we're attracted to people that have the negative qualities of our primary caretaker.

So essentially, I know, as you move through the world and you're like, but usually if you're magnetically attracted to someone like that, that is, you know, our society is basically alcomized that into like butterflies, and love at first sight. That is fear. That is your body telling, that is your gut telling you this person's trouble, and it's activating

the basically fight or flight response in your brain. Yes, because it's like this guy is a drug all of a sudden, because he's creating this drama and mystery and I don't know what he's thinking, and I have to be perfect for him, and all my coping mechanisms are gonna shine because you have to part with our coping mechanisms.

There's also a lot of loss there. You know. We call him Christmas Trees, the people that when you walk in a room and you're just like, like I used to the most divorced guy with the most personality disorders, like smoking inside in the corner. I'm like like, that's just like my drug. You know, it's not about him. It's not about him. So for a lot of women, they're like this guy so toxic that I'm still whether he drives me nuts. It's like what are you getting

out of this? Why are you staying? And it's important to know this person either gives me the hit of adrenaline I want, in which case I go, why don't you just go to fucking six flags every couple of days. I don't know, there's other ways to get that adrenaline fix or is your addiction fixing other people? Is your addiction rescuing people? You know? Codependence, the three m s, mothering, micromanaging,

and martyring. That is me. We all are wired to recreate a childhood circumstances and find those familiar dynamics, you know. But most of our thoughts are total science fiction. Like I don't look at my thoughts anymore as facts. I used to. This person thinks I'm a piece of ship. Whoa, it's not true, And I fancy myself someone who is a truth teller and is very honest, and I'm gonna believe that fucking garbage. So it's just a thought. It's

just an old thing, though I must oh. I developed that when I was a kid, and oh yeah, that worked that. Those thoughts worked really well when I was five, six, seven years old. Now I just am carrying around in my arsenal a bunch of tools that are obsolete, a bunch of weapons to fight a war that's been over for thirty years, you know, and now they're working. So but I like to anthromorphize them with a in a kind way and be like, oh, there's that inner bully

who's actually trying to help me. When people say inner bully, I don't think that it's a perfect way to say it, because I would say like inner helper, like that's your inner helper, that's your inner champion, because it's your psyche is trying to make you feel safe and get out of a dangerous situation. Or it's just not our, it's not ours. Yeah, I look at my thoughts like a Star Wars movie, like that's crazy. I actually think she

doesn't like me. Is that weird? Oh gosh, I actually think that person on the internet that just called me a busted whore, like I just like agreed with him, you know, or whatever, and then go, oh, that's not mine and that's not true. Most of our thoughts are projections from little survival protectors. That was like, is this gonna happen again? Because this happened when we're five, and we're not gonna let this happen again. So here's the thought to keep you safe, and you're like, no, I

don't need that anymore. So I like to kindly say to my own thoughts like thank you. You can sit on the bench. I see what's happening. So you also have to be kind to your own inner bully, because our brain isn't signed to hurt us. It's only designed to help us. So if anything in your brain isn't on your side, it's a perception issue. You live in l a Whitney, yes, ma'am. Oh nice, Oh my god, I live in chats Worth. We need to hang. I need to sit down with you. I want to go

to lunch. I like have learned so much, like you've inspired me, and I got I felt like through Instagram, like I feel like, okay, I know you, but that's just I don't know. I want to read your book. I want to like I'm like, dude, I can learn so much from you, Like you're blowing my fucking mind right now, and like, wait a second, it feels nice to sit with someone like I'm learning something. These are the type of friendships and relationships I want, so thank

you for that. I'm like, dude, she's speaking straight to me right now. You know, addiction can even be a superpower. I identify as an addict, and I come from a lot of addiction, but if you can use that super machine of addiction, which is basically our brains don't hold dopamine the same way in our dopamine receptors. It's just like a brain disease that I think can actually be an advantage if you So I got lucky, uh and

was able to turn my addictive personality for good. I use it with work, and I use it with rescuing animals, and I use it with the Operation Smile, which is, you know, we go to third wal countries and U help kids that were born with cleft palates and cleft lips, and you know, so it's like I get lucky. I got lucky. Yes, during the pandemic, I went a little crazy with the edibles and I was like, oh that

I know where that can go. Like that's that's a that's a no for me, because but I made my addiction to work more important, you know, so now it would be the other edibles are just getting in my way of making great work. So that's got to go. So there's also a way to change what you're addicted to. I like to call healthy addictions, you know, instead of being addicted to whatever it is, whether it's you know, drugs or a person or sex or porn or gambling

or whatever. Like what if you just got addicted to promoting yourself on Instagram, starting that podcast that you show, you know, writing that book, Like there's a way to do it and to be able to just sort of change what your brain is addicted to is I think. And all the things that you know ostensibly are supposed to be shortcomings I see as positives. It's like, oh, you have O. C. D. It's like, no, dude, I'm

not sending in the book until it is perfect. I've done twelve drafts, Like this is a good thing for me. I don't want to dull that part of myself. It's a superpower. I don't want to dull it. I mean, honestly, I can talk to you all freaking day. I've learned so much and I feel like there's so much we have to talk about, Like we have we're both dating younger men. I have a lot of questions. So how old he is? Um seven years younger. So I'm thirty seven.

He just turned thirty. So it's it's been fun with it live and great sex. It's awesome. So yeah, it's also younger guys they grew up with Beyonce like in Oprah, Like they love women, they respect women, and they also know. I think inherently the dating younger girls is an actual liability because they tweet if you have bad sex, they'll cancel you. If you didn't eat them out perfectly, you're a rapist. Um. But uh, it's really exciting. I also think it's like the smart ones also know that, like

twenty year olds aren't that good at sex. Yeah, they're still learning. They're still learning. I know, I wasn't that great in my twenties. No, like we got there. But like these guys that are dating, like I'm dating this hot twenty year old, I'm like cool, Like so you have to jerk yourself off, like I don't know how this works, Like you have to give someone a tutorial on how to give a hand job, like what is that your kink teaching? Like, so, I freaking love you, dude.

I honestly think you're a total vibe. If you guys have not watched Whitney Cummings jokes, you guys have to watch it on Netflix. Already said in the beginning, but like you have to go watch it and all, so you need to follow her on Instagram. Can you share your socials with me, Whitney please, yes, Just Whitney Cummings. Whitney Cummings on Instagram, Twitter whenny Commings dot com is my website. I'm about to do a big project on

Only Fans. That is the roasts member with the Comedy Central roasts, and we used to do these like Savage Friars Club roasts, and everyone's too scared to do roast now because of this like mirage of like PC culture killed comedy. That's not true. It's like two thousand people on Twitter um that aren't even buying tickets. So it's a better time than ever to do comedy, edgy comedy, whatever. But Only Fans is the best place to do it because it's like instead of dirty videos, instead of dirty

photos and dirty jokes. I love it. So I'll have an Only Fans page soon and that is where only Fans is. That's where you make the more than honey. It's by the way, it's also way less pornographic than Twitter or Instagram. At this point. It's like teachers in bikinis and they're making an extra two under grand a year on top of their thirty grand salary and it's like awesome. You know what. I think I'm gonna do an only fans and just talk about ship that I

can't really, you know, say on social media. So I'm gonna it'll be massive. I mean bad baby makes twenty million dollars a month, CARDI b I mean freaking you guys, you know what. We got to talk about that too. And Whitney, I am so happy that you were on. Like I said, I think I said like ten times. I've learned so much already. I want your cell phone number. We need to kick it. And you guys know that I always have a quote for you at the end

of every episode of Chickens and Chill. The quote for today is I found I was more confident when I stopped trying to be someone else's definition of beautiful and started being my own. You guys, that's the quote. That's all I have for you today, Whitney again, sending you a big old hug and I'll see you soon. We lived down the street from each other. Yes, yes, we're hanging whether you like it or it. Thank you, guys,

I love you so much. Do you need advice on love, relationships, health, emas I'm so excited to share with you that my Cheeks and Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop each week. I'll be answering all your questions. Just leave me a voice message. All you have to do is go to speak pipe dot com slash Cheeks and Chill podcast and record your questions. I can't wait to hear from you. This is a production of I Heart Radio

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