My Life as a Reality TV Star

with Stan, Happy Monday, everyone. Today's episode is going to be about my time and reality TV. I'm going to tell you, guys about my experience working in the industry and also about some of the lessons I've learned. Stay tuned. It's gonna be a good one. This is Cheek Ease and Chill. Alright, guys, So I've spent several years in reality TV. Many of you probably know me from shows like Chicks and Roxy, Chickens in Control, I Love Jenny the rip Beras, or Cheeks Confidential. I've really enjoyed my

time working on each of these shows. I started my career because so many people think that, well, my mom passed and they thought that I started my career after she had passed, and that is not true. I started reality TV in two thousand nine with Cheeks and Roxy, and I had to be convinced to do it. It was like pulling teeth. I was so used to being behind the cameras. I enjoyed it. I felt like that's where I belonged. I always felt that there was something more.

There were things that I wanted to do. And there would be times when I would pretend to be singing, like you know, Gwen Stefani in the living room or Shakida, which were those were my two faves, And I'd be in the living room I'd been cleaning and I would sing and I would be like, imagine myself on stage.

Or I would always hear a Lousels people like applauding, but I always just because my mom's career was always like on the rise, Thank goodness, I just felt like I'm okay with being behind the scenes and helping my mom with her career and helping my mom with my siblings. So when the whole reality TV thing started happening during that time, I remember one of the first ones that I really got into was newlyweds Nick Lash and Jessica

Simpson one they had just gotten married. It was really cute to see like people on TV in a different way. This is when I think reality TV was born. They actually were the ones that started, one of the very first people that started that in the Osborne's. So when we were approached for a reality TV show, my mom and her manager then said, you know what, this is a great opportunity for you to spread your wings, for you to inspire girls, to show them what you do

for your mother. And Roxy, who was the other co star on Cheeks and Roxy, Roxy was a radio host for Mega here in l A. And my mom basically had to convince me that was the only way, Like honestly, it was a conversation for like a few months, and I was like no, no, no, I don't want to because after Newlyweds and I don't know if it had to do with the reality show, but Nick and Jessica divorced and then I knew that the Osbornes were having

little issues here and there. So it just kind of scared me because I'm like, I don't know, like I don't want it to cause issues, Like it's better to be private back then, right, And Anyways, when my mom told me, you know what, you can inspire other young ladies to be hard working, to go after their dreams. You know, everything you do for me, I want people to see that, and and it'll be to Latin as

in l A chasing their dreams. So I said, okay, fine, Finally I said all right, And I was so shy, you guys, I had no idea what the heck I was doing. In the beginning, I was like, what is this cameras everywhere? And then with time, I mean, I'm I'm a pretty fast learner, so I just started seeing them like flies on the walls, like there were just other people there. I stopped seeing them as cameras. You know.

The camera men became friends and the sound guy and it just became kind of like a family because it was long as hours of recording, long hours. And I really do think Roxy because she was advanced and everything, you know, she was on radio, she would do red carpets, she would go to award shows, and so she really did walk me through being a star all on my own and kind of like stepping out of my mom's shadow. So she really did help me. And even when we

were doing interviews for everything. I would just like, you answer everything, you know, you go ahead and answer. She's like no, she would push me. She's like, you gotta answer to girl, and I'm like okay. So I just started kind of just watching and learning, and I think I always had it in me. I was just shy, and I was a little afraid because I had seen it for so long how the industry can affect people.

I mean, I live with my mom my entire life, and I saw how it affected her, how certain comments and things like that got to her sometimes. So I was, I think more scared of that. But anyways, that's how we started with Chickens and Roxy, and then from there we had a little fall out with Roxy and again, because reality a lot of it, what works is drama. So towards the end of Chickens and Roxy, which it did amazing, you guys, amazing. We were even on Bravo.

Our ratings were the best on Mundol's back then, which is now one, and then we had a little falling out her and I on the show. And I kind of want to say that it had a little to do with the production company, to be honest, I didn't see it until afterwards. Then after that, you know, I got a lot of really great reviews, and they still wanted to see me and and my family. My mom would go on Chickens and Roxy very little Mama was an executive producer. It was Jenny Rivera Presents Chickens and Roxy,

so she would come. She would do little cameos here and they're very like. She just wrinkled. And I would ask my siblings if they could come on, because they were a huge part of my life. So they did. They agreed, and then I wasn't getting paid obviously a lot. I think for the entire season, I got paid thirteen thousand dollars and it was like fifteen episodes, and it was a long, long, very long days. But it was

an investment. So I just saw it that way. I'm like, Okay, if we prove ourselves in this first season, in which we did, then we can get more money the next season and so on and so forth. So I saw it as a business transaction, or like I was looking at as a as a businesswoman. Should I say any who?

I couldn't pay my siblings, I couldn't pay anybody because I wasn't really getting paid that much I remember that the first thing I did when I got my paycheck with Chickens and Roxy was by my first expensive as mattress. I got paid thirteen thousand dollars and I spent thirty on like this badass mattress because I was like, no, I need to sleep, I need to sleep good. I need to rest because I was reading about all this stuff, how to read good and if you have good sleep.

You know. I was like always into these holistic things. So I bought myself my mattress. My mom was like, what are you doing. And then with the rest of the money, I helped my then boyfriend by a car. So I was really left with not a lot, but a lot of experience, a lot of experience. I matured so much during that time with Chickens and Roxy, and well, Chickens and Roxy came to and end, unfortunately, even after

it's amazing success. That's when they approached us Mundos and said, you know what, we would want to see more of the family. Let's do a family reality show again. I was like hesitant. I'm like, Mom, I don't know, I'm scared, like I don't want it to cause issues. So we all had a family meeting, and my mom said, this is a good opportunity for all of you to make money. You will all get paid, all the responsibility won't following

your sister. So the kids were like, all right, cool, I'm gonna get paid and you know, we can kind of tell our story. And Mom was like, the only way that I'm going to come out more is if you pay us the big bucks. So my mom negotiated it. Finally, I was like, okay, we had a family eating and we're like, we're not going to let this get between us. If someone is feeling uncomfortable, then we have to say it and we'll end it. That was like our biggest thing,

and we were all on the same page. For me, it was like, if we don't have this meeting and we're not on the same page, I don't want to do it because to me, my family was always the most important thing and still is. So anyhow, we went with I Love Jenny. It fucking did amazing. We did two seasons and then they wanted to do a spinoff show because obviously I was making some money, I was

saving and I wanted to open my own business. So I opened Blowed Me Dry, which is my very first baby, my hair salon, which was like a you know the dry bar. You know, they're huge when I started coming out, so I wanted my own spin on it, so I called it Blow Me Dry, the reality show. The producers knew that I was doing this, that I was opening up my salons, so they're like, okay, well, while we are on off season with I Love Jenny, let's do a spinoff show with cheekies showing the process of her

opening up her salon. So that's what we did. That's where Cheeks in Control came about, and it did so good as well, um I was signed up to do another season. It was also replayed on Bravo, which was great. It did really well and that was fun. It was myself, my manager, my friends that I had. Then during that time, when we were on off season, that's when my mom and I started having the issues, and so my mom canceled my show. She told Mundos, We're not going to

do another season of Cheeks in Control. Of course, I was devastated because I was like, how am I supposed to make money? Like I just got let go from my job with my mom. It was a really horrible time, but it really did help me. I had the salon at least with everything we had had made from cheeks in control, and I love Jenny. I was able to open my salon, so I felt a little better. I'm like, Okay, well I did this, you know, I have something to show for it. So I was a little happy, but

of course I was sad. Anyways, the reason I'm telling you guys all over this is because people get confused that I started my career maybe my singing career, yes, but it's something that I always wanted to do. And I explained that in one of the episodes here on Chickens and Chill, but in reality, like funny, right, in reality. I started reality in two thousand nine, you know. And I was even my mom and I were on Latina magazine on the cover together in two thousand and eleven.

So it's like I was already like on the road, you know what I mean, Like I was already what I'm doing now. I was very fortunate that I didn't have to like quote unquote rent friends, like people that I had to pay to be on the show, like everyone that was on the reality show where my real friends. Unfortunately, a lot of the people are almost all of them that were on the reality show with Us with Me,

should I say, are no longer in my life? A lot of things happen, and that's a whole other episode, guys. But one that I do want to talk about specifically is Gerald. For those of you that don't know who Gerald is. Gerald was a friend of mine for a very long time, and he was a huge part of the reality show and he helped a lot because he was always with me. Honestly, helped me a lot with my siblings, with my businesses, my friends too. Also a friend that's no longer in my life, Ellen, she helped

me a lot with with Blow Me Dry. She was the manager, so they all came out. We did the whole thing, like interviewing people for their positions and interviewing people for like management. It was just it was really cool. It was a really cool experience. And I don't know exactly. I think it was a series of things. There were things that I think I said that hurt him, that bothered him, that I apologized for and then I understood. I'm like, okay, well maybe like you know, messing around,

but it was I think a little too harsh. So I think that was like the beginning of the end, and there were things I think that were bothering him for a long time. I think he felt used with the reality. He felt like a cast member. I should be getting paid. That's the last I heard. I was like, okay, Like he lived in our house, like we helped each other out a lot. People always ask what happened with Gerald?

In reality, that's the truth, that's really what happened. I think he felt unappreciated and underpaid, because we're not really underpaid, because he wasn't getting paid. He was just like invited, like ky Chicks, is going to do this today? Or do you want to come? Or sometimes he wasn't even invited. He was just a part of it because he was my best friend and he was in a lot of scenes with me, and he was funny and he made

it funny and people loved him. So maybe he felt like I should have paid him, and maybe I should have, but it was really in that at that point, out of my control because I hadn't have a say in that. My mom was like the executive producer. I think he got paid a little bit. I'm not too sure the producers handled that, but not what he felt that he deserved,

and we really never got to talk about it. We just drifted apart, and sadly we have no communication and it's been years and everyone always asks me about that. You know. I've always kept my circle very tight and I never really let people in when I was especially when I was doing the reality I do feel like some people try to come around to be on the reality show, but I was very protective of my space, of my sibling space, you know. So it was really

like my true core friends that were on there. It makes me a little sad, to be honest, when I think about it, because I'm like, damn, we had a beautiful time, like especially with my friends and stuff like that, and they're no longer in my life. But I'm happy that I have the reality show to look back on. I'm like, Okay, well we live those moments. It was nice and should just happens. You know, you just dripped apart.

You change, you grow, and some people are meant to be in your life for a certain season of your life and then they're not meant to move on with you. So that's what it is. For those of you that always ask about Gerald, you know, I'm sure you can find on on Instagram. You can ask him. I have no bad blood towards him, like I wish him the best. I want him to do well, and I want all my friends to do well. Those that where my friends and are no longer in my life, but I'm grateful.

I'm grateful that they were there, especially during some hardass times, and I've learned to accept it. I've learned to accept that ship happens, and you grow and sometimes you grow apart. Okay, so now let's talk about happy times. So a lot of great things happen on the reality show. A lot, Like I said, we got to go on vacation. We did a lot of extreme sports that I don't think I've ever done because a lot of Latin families don't, you know, do a lot of things we were able

to do through the shows. Um, and I got to do it with my favorite people, my family, my friends, my brothers and sisters. One of my favorite episodes is when we went to Hawaii with my mom and it was like, I think, our very first family vacation, our first and our last. You guys, my mom wasn't one to vacation. She didn't know how to vacation. All she ever knew was work, work, work, And my grandpa is like that till this day. So my mom just I

think took after him. So I remember being on vacation and they forced her to do things that forced her. But we're like, okay, we're gonna go do this today and she's like okay. Like, for instance, I think she was so scared. It was so cute to see my mom. Like my mom wasn't scared of anything. She was fearless. She was a badass woman, you know. But when she jumped into the ocean and she was with the sting rays, she was freaking out, like she said, what is this?

I think it was just too much for her, and it was just so cute to see her laugh. I think we were like also swimming with like the dolphins. Those memories I'm never going to forget because I saw my mom in a different light, like a little girl, just so excited but scared, and it was our vacation. We were all together. It was just really really really nice. It's one of like the highlights for me. And there are certain things that I'm like, Damn, I can't believe

I did that. I wish I wouldn't have come out like for instance, I don't know if those of you that have watched the Verras remember when we did a mud run. It was hard as hell. You had to run, you had to go through all of these obstacle courses, and well, in the middle of it, I had to go to the bathroom, and of course the cameras are there, and of course you have your mic on, and I had to go number two. And I'm the type of

woman that if nature calls, I'm gonna handle business. I'm not the type that's like, oh, I don't use public questrooms. I don't like public questrooms. They're not my my, my favorite, you know, I don't prefer them. And you know, I do the whole toilet paper and the toilet seat covers and all that stuff. But anyways, we didn't have that. We were in the woods. You guys were in the woods doing this damn mud run, and memoi was I

had to go to the bathroom. So I went behind a bush and I told the producers and I looked at the cameraman and I'm like, you're gonna stay right here and I'm gonna go handle business. And I thought they were going to cut it out, and I think I asked them to cut it out and they're like, no, absolutely not, we're not going to cut it out. And you know what's crazy. I was an executive producer on The Rivera's and I was like, no, we're not gonna cut it out. It was like, it's funny, we're not

gonna show where. I'm like, okay, well, don't like I don't want to hear the noises because I was pooping in the woods. You guys with cameras all around. I hit of course. But anyways, that's one thing that I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe I did that on like national television. Always reminding me of something. She was a huge fan of the reality show. Okay, so she said that I didn't remember this, and it's probably true

because I love white bees. So anyways, I guess I took off my underwear and I wiped my ass with it and I just I left it there. I still can't believe it I'm talking about. I'm like, oh my god, that's not ladylike chickens, but it neither is pooping in your pants, so whatever. And then there's the ugly part. Guys, there's the ugly part behind the scenes of reality where I don't blame the producers or the networks because it's

just what people want to see. And that's where I decided it's time to stop with the reality because I don't want it to cause issues between my siblings and I. After the last season of I Love Jenny, which I believe was the fourth season, my mom had barely started recording the fourth season if I Love Jenny when she passed, so we had to basically finish it. That was tough, and we took a break after I Love Jenny, and then people kept asking and asking you guys, we want

to see you guys on reality again. We would get comments all the time. The network came and gave us an offer, and I talked to my siblings and again we're like, okay, this is an opportunity for everyone to make some money, to save some money, to start your own businesses, and so we all agreed, and that's when

the Riveras were born. The core of the show was my siblings and I and then a little bit of like my extended family, and that kind of was an issue because again, people felt that they weren't getting paid I think enough for the work that they were doing, which I get but again that was kind of out of my hands. I was an executive producer, and I said, the only way I'm going to do it is if I'm an executive producer and I can watch that soaked and stuff before the air. Because I wanted to make

sure that I took care of our family. That was the most important thing to me. So we did four seasons of The Rivera's so it was doing really good. The first three seasons were good. We were chilling, like there was a lot going on, so there wasn't really like it wasn't necessary to cause drama because everyone wanted to know what happened after mom and how we were handling everything, and it was just a lot selling the house and everything was on the reality show, just a lot.

A lot happened, me getting married and engaged, and just a lot. And then the fourth season came around and she started getting a little weird. Not a lot was going on. It just the same old stuff. Jackie was living very far. She had her children should take him to school. It was getting a little frustrating for her having to drive all the way to the valley because the rest of us were in the valley or a

lot closer, so she was kind of getting frustrated. Mikey and Jennica were always kind of like they're they're more like behind the scenes type of person. With Jenica is now more of like she's more comfortable and she's like in front of the camera, she's like a whole last influencer now. But then she was just shy and she was still trying to figure her stuff out, like she wasn't as confident as she is now. Then Mikey is very like, I don't give a shit about this. He

was like, I'm here for the money. He was always real. He's like, I'm not gonna show my girlfriends. I'm not going to talk about personal stuff, so he was just upfront about it. I think everyone's just kind of tired. It had been so long, ten years of reality and then I think because not all like enough exciting things were happening, or it was just like I said, a lot of the same ship drama was being created in

the last season. I started noticing and it started causing some friction between my friendships and myself again, and I'm like, I can't allow this to happen. I think at my bachelorette party, we were in Vegas that came out on the Rivera's the last season, and one of my friends threw a shoe out of my other friend and it was just crazy. It was just too much going on.

Everyone was drunk, and that became I think one of the first thing that really bothered me where I was like, Okay, how did why Why were the cameras rolling or you know what I mean, like why is this happening? And then things started happening between my sister and I that I think, like, I don't know if it was the producers. I don't know because I love the producers, you know, the producers that we worked with. I was working with them from the very beginning. So that's why I was

like kind of thrown off. I'm like, what is going on? Like there was just unnecessary drama being created, and it started causing friction between my siblings and I and I said, a wait a second, like I'm not going to be chasing my siblings either for their schedules. It was just becoming a headache for me. It was causing me more stress. That's why I just decided I said, we're not doing another season, and of course they wanted another season. We

were doing really well. The readings, thank goodness, were always really good with the reality shows, but it just wasn't worth it anymore for me. And there was this one time that Mikey and I had an argument on camera. It was some real ship and I asked them we were like in the middle of the argument, and I said, turn off the cameras, and they didn't because I was getting piste. I thought him and I are going to go at it right now, and he was pissed. He

was fired up. And that's one thing with Mikey and I. We go like head on. Mikey is like when he gets mad, he gets mad, and so do I. So they didn't turn off the cameras, and I was really upset, like I'm an executive producer here like hello, and I'm like, you know, I don't want to have moments like this anymore, Like I just don't want she like this to happen. She was kind of weird in my relationship at that time as well. And I didn't want my wedding to be a part of the reality show. I wanted it

to be very private. They didn't like that either, so I said, if you guys want that, it can't be a part of this reality show. Has to be something completely separate. And then I decided, I don't want that. I really want to have fun at my wedding. I don't want to have a mic on and have the cameras there. I just want to enjoy. And I invited the producers as my friends to come and celebrate with us, but they didn't like the fact that they couldn't be

there recording it. Because of course the Lemundo really wanted it, but I didn't want that. So it was just I think it felt like we need to just call it quit. Everyone wanted to rest. Everyone was annoyed, my cibilians. Everyone was just annoyed at that point. I was annoyed because it was so hard to schedule the kids and it was just too many of us and I it's causing issues.

My friend got upset because she looked like a total ass, you know, but there was so much that happened at that bachelorette party that she's like, I look like a total bitch, and that's not how things went down. And you know, things are cut in a certain way, and she wasn't able to do confessionals and explain. So I was like, you know, it's just it's not worth it. So that's when we said, okay, we're gonna stop reality, and everyone was on the same page. Everyone was relieved,

everyone had made a good amount of money. That's when Jessica, I think it really did help her because the reality took so much of our time and energy physical and mental energy and emotional energy that we really didn't have the time or any energy left to dedicate to our personal dreams. So Jennica wanted to do other things. She wanted to become an influencer, she wanted to have more time, and so I said, you know, this is the wicked opportunity.

You've made some money, you've saved it, and I'll start investing it. Jackie too, she wanted to focus on her singing career. Mikey wanted to start his own business. Now he has it. So I'm grateful for the reality show

for so many reasons. And I'm also grateful that it ended because we were all able to just focus on ourselves and Johnny was able to go to school and it was good as mad as I was I think towards the end of my career as a reality start because of stuff that happened with the last season of The Rivera's I'm grateful because now, especially that my mom's not here, I still have these videos, these episodes to look back on and hear her voice and see her smile and hear her her laugh, and see those times

when we would hug and on the reality show, we had this thing that my mom, my, sisters and I would like do the titty like we would touch our boobs together, and it was kind of like when something happy happened. And it's just moments like that that I'm like, wow, like I'm great full It's I mean, I wouldn't have that and I and there are times it's still hard for me. I think the last time I was watching some episodes was this past Christmas. We were in Mammoth

and it came on. We turned on the TV and there it was. We were on television, which was so weird because we don't watch ourselves, or at least I don't. And I watched it a little bit and it just it made me sad. I cried a little bit. I did. I teared up, and but I laughed because my mom is so damn funny, and just to see how we've all grown up, even Johnny, Like he's twenty one years old now, and I remember him being a little boy, always upset, way like, always had his little Fucci face.

And I, I mean, there were things that we did on the show, like I showed him how to really clean a toilet, Like these things were real. Johnny's face, Johnny's attitude, the things that him and I would deal with on camera, his room being dirty and us having to force him to clean it. All that ship was true.

It's real. It wasn't stuff that we made up. And that's one thing I want to clarify, because honestly, I want to say, ninety five percent of everything that happened on all the reality shows that I was on were absolutely true, non scripted completely. The other five percent were re enacted moments, but like raising Johnny in front of cameras that was real, showing him how to literally clean a toilet because he was used to everything being done for him, and how upset he got. All of that

was real. And just to see like, wow, he's a man, he's a young man now. It's crazy and I love the fact that we have those at home videos in our own way to look back on and to show my children one day that, you know, they had a cool last grandma. I know Jayla likes to see herself. She was like a little superstar herself. Who remembers the big Booty song. Jayla has a big old booty. Oh yeah, big booty. That was like her little song that everyone's saying.

And she was little. She was like a little superstar and now she's freaking twelve. You guys, it's just crazy. It was honestly a good run. I'm asked all the time, would you do another one? And I don't know. I don't want to say no because I don't know. A part of me would be like, it'd be kind of cool. There's a lot of cool things that happened, like maybe following me on my you know, my tour, maybe that's kind of cool, something different. A lot of fun ship happens,

you know, something always happens like on tour. But I don't know, because when the cameras are there, you can't hide. There's stuff that comes up and they want to get that spicy stuff, and I just don't know if I want to share and expose myself that much anymore. I think I did it for a chunk of my life

because I said yes to Chickens and Roxy. I feel like it really did open the doors to I love Jenny and all the rest of the reality shows, and I'm glad that I was able to do that for my family and that my mom was able to do that for me. But yeah, I don't know. I don't want to say no, and I don't want to say yes. I know there are people out there that they're like, you know, I want to do a reality and I'm not going to tell you not to do it. Absolutely

Like I'm the type of person and try it. It's better to try something than not to try it and live with you what if. I always say that, But it's not all glitz and glamb guys. For me, it was important. There are certain reality shows out there that get their hair and makeup done every single day and have a budget for that. We didn't have a budget for that because that's expensive to do your hand makeup every single day. So I was always like, I would just put on my scara and I like to just

be me. I'm like, this is a reality show. I don't get ready every single day. You're gonna see who I really am. And that was important for me for people to see me cheek ease, raw, like this is who I am. This is the reality of my life. And that's how we did it. We were just the way I always say. I'm like, we were raw. We were super super raw. My mom. You guys know how she is. So but it's not glitz and glamb you guys,

there's it's hard work. Let's say, when the cameras are on their on and they're gonna catch whatever they catch and there's no going back on that. It's very difficult to cut things out because then there are the networks that are like, no, we want this, and at the end of the day, they own the show. You can be an executive producer, but they have the last word. You are exposing your life. Sometimes you don't know how

you act. And that's one thing for me. For a long time, I didn't watch myself because I wanted to be authentic, and I'm like, i want to be myself, and if I watch myself, I'm going to criticize myself and then I'm I feel like I'm going to think about it too much when the cameras around. And one thing, you have to know that when the cameras are on, their on and they're watching everything, and when they're off,

the mics are on, so they're listening to everything. So it's that you've got to be careful because at the end of the day, you can be an executive producer like my mom and I were, but it was a conversation and sometimes discussions and arguments with the networks because they have the last word. So yes, it's it's great. You can make good money. Like I said, when I first started Chickens and Roxy, I got paid dollars for the entire season, long ast hours, a lot of hard work,

a lot of money invested in clothing. You can't you know. I mean I wouldn't wear maybe sometimes like the same shirt, the same pants, but like you have to look different. And sometimes in one day you would record different parts of different episodes, so you would have to change three or five times, so it gets it can get pricey, but I did it as Okay, this is an investment because I want to inspire the people, other women, other Latinas out there, and then it just you know, a

little by little, I got paid a little more. But by the time I had been in it for ten years, I was making pretty good money. I really was, and I'm grateful for that. I made really good money and it was good. So you can potentially make hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some people make millions. I'm very blessed to say that I did very well. But it took me a long time, and it took a lot of tears because there were things that sometimes I didn't want

to talk about, especially when my mom was around. She was the boss, so if we were going to talk about something, I had no other choice but to talk about it, like you know, the sexual abuse. Then I wasn't as comfortable as I am now. So there was learn things I'm like, I don't feel comfortable talking about that, or even arguments that her and I had, or when she asked me to move out. That was tough, and

that was we re enacted that, you guys. That happened off camera when my mom asked me to move out months before she passed, and we re enacted it. They said, hey, would you mind doing it again on camera? Just having like a little bit of a conversation about why and everything, and it was emotional. I cried as if it was the first time I was I had heard it. It was my heart. I was. It was just like, why do we have to talk about this, Like, well, it only makes sense. We're in the middle of recording a

reality show. Your mom is asking you to move out. We have to talk about it. And those are the times I'm like, oh my goodness, But it worked out. When you're in the moment, you don't see it that way. Now I'm like, Okay, I get it. But we had that conversation in her office and I was just like, I was devastated. I was crying, she was crying. It was a beautiful moment, but it was. It was tough. So there's so much to be said about reality. And I don't want to talk down on it because I

really don't. Like I'm very grateful for it. But I'm good. I feel like I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish with reality and I'm focusing on other things. And if it comes around again and the opportunity presents itself, then maybe I'll do it, especially if the money's right. Not everything is about money, but it has to be worth my time. It has to be something that's going to be inspirational to other people. There has to be a good mission behind it, and then I'll be like, Okay,

let's do it. They offer one to us and want to say, like every year for the past couple of years have said you know what, not right now, it's not the time, so I don't know. Maybe next year. Anyways, guys, So this is fun. I hope you guys enjoyed it and you learned a little bit, a little bit about what it was to make a reality show, to be a part of a reality show, to be an executive producer, and just the truth behind the reality. So the reality behind the reality show. But before we go, I'm going

to leave you with my weekly motivational quote. Memories are like antiques. The older they are, the more valuable they become. Oh that was nice, you guys remembering all those beautiful women's. A good thing is that I can watch them and so can you. I hope you guys have a really great day and great week. AMO seven. This is a production of I Heart Radio and Miltura podcast Network. Follow us on Instagram at Mikeela Podcasts and follow me chick ees.

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