Feng Shui 101

of chick Ease and Chill. I'm your host, cheek Ease, and today we have an episode that's going to help you create a better living space. If you didn't know, I recently moved, so I've been organizing and rearranging furniture. I think I've been doing a pretty good job. But there's always room for improvement, which is why we're going to be talking about functuate to day. Oh my god, I love functuate. So let's get right into this episode

of Cheeks and Chill. So what exactly is functually? That's a great question, and we have a wonderful and the perfect guest to answer this question. I think there are a lot of definitions floating around, so let's get straight to the expert to find out what it is exactly. Our guest today is Angie Cho. She's a New York based functually expert and architect. She's a co founder of the Mindful Design School, which is a functional a school. She's also the co host of the Holistic Space podcast.

Hi Angie, it's so great to have you. How are you. I'm good. How are you? I'm good? Thank you for being here with us, being on my podcast. I am very very curious. See, the thing is, I've heard about functually and I kind of know what it is, but thank goodness for you, because, like you are a professional at this, So can you explain to me and to the people that are listening, like, what is functually exactly? Sure? So, functual is a Chinese philosophy and it's a way of

looking at your space and your environment. And the words

functuy literally translate to wind and water. So if you think about that, wind is like your breath and water, you know, we need to be hydrated, and so those are the two basic elements that humans need to thrive, and it connects us to the natural world, So functual as a way of looking at our environment specifically, like our homes are built, environments are spaces, and seeing how we can position ourselves to take advantage of things and to be in the best place that we can be

in our homes and in our lives. What are the benefits of functually? I think um one of the main benefits of functualit is having a home or space that supports you rather than one that creates or obstacles for you, that makes things more difficult, makes you frustrated. Because I'm sure everyone's been in a place or lived in a home where they just felt bad all the time, or they just like, we're stressed out by the home and

it made them unhappy. So if you can set up your home so that it's supportive, that it creates a place that you can rest, Like even the basic things like if you like live in a place that's hard to get, like your friends have a hard time finding it, or your neighbors are really loud, all those things come into play with your well being. So okay, yeah, because I've always thought a functually as like just in my home, but then I know that also your workspace is important

to have like everything situated. So so does it have to do with like furniture are for instance, like wall decre like with everything, or is it just more furniture. It's everything, It's not necessarily furniture or wall decore, but it can include that it's your environment and it doesn't have to be just your home. It can be your workspace. Functually was originally developed actually to locate the grave sites

of your ancestors. So looking at like the most optimal placement for anything that we have, like so our homes are workspace is anything that we build on the earth. And it doesn't have to be a calm energy can be whatever energy you need. So maybe if it's a glam room that you need to get ready, and maybe you don't want it to be calm and sleepy, but in a bedroom you would want it to be calm and sleepy. But maybe in your office you also don't want to be sleepy. In your office you want to

be more active. So depending on the function of the room, like functionally looks at the practical aspect of what is happening in the space, and then you look a little deeper at that and see how that affects you, what it symbolizes, and how you can shift it to be

more aware or more mindful of what's happening in that space. Okay, So basically you yourself me, I would set the intention in that room as to what benefits I want to get from it, right, Yeah, you can also do that too, Okay, So explain to me, for instance, my office obviously, because it's it's an important place, how would I even start to just get the function a going in there? So with your office, there's a few things that you want to look at functual wise, and one is like, what's

the purpose of the office. So say it's your main home office or your main office that you're you're spending time in, and you want to be focused probably, right, you want to be generally in general people want to be focused, they want to get things done creative, and you don't necessarily want to be there all day either, right, So you want to pay attention to what you're looking at and what you are facing while you're working, while you're at your desk, So like, are you looking out

the window or so if you look out the window, maybe your energy isn't with what you're working on but your kind of daydreaming will kick out the window and then you sit there like all day and you don't

get anything done. Or if you're looking at your kitchen all the time, maybe you just get up and go eat a lot because you're staring at your your refrigerator, or if you're looking at your bed, you're kind of thinking about like sleeping, or like your work life balance is not so good because also when you're in bed, in your office is in your bedroom, it's so much easier to just get up and say, Okay, I'm just

gonna write that email really quick. Or you're always thinking about work that's right in front of you, okay, because right now my desk, I have an L shaped desk and my back is to the wall and the windows behind me. That's good, okay perfect. I was gonna ask you that because in my mind, I thought, well, maybe I should have it where I'm looking out. But now now that you're saying that that makes sense. It's like

I could just focus on what I'm doing. And it's crazy because I just recently moved everything in my office because I felt like it was off, and I'm like, okay, wait, I need to move this. So I moved my desk where I'm facing the door, but my back is protected. I kind of feel like I want my back to be protected, and I feel like I've been able to focus more so. In every other office that I've had, I'm always facing a window, and it's because I love

natural light. But in this one, in my home office, I don't know if I feel like I go in there and I do my work and I and I get out, you know what I mean, which is generally what we want. I don't want to be there all day and on my walls. Right now, I have the name of my podcast in an led like sort of like lamping, and it's you know, chickens and chill, and then generally everything is pretty clean. I just have like the pictures of my mom and like some of my accomplishments.

Like that's good, right, Yeah, that's really great to have In the signage of your podcast is are you looking at that? I'm not it's behind me? Should I be looking at it? Actually? Behind you? Is good? Because well, first of all, having your desk position so you can see the door is really good, and having a wall behind you because that's supportive and um, if it's behind you, it's good in the sense that your podcast is there

to support you. It's it's holding you up, it's supporting you, it has your back in a sense, and so that's really positive. And pictures of your mom is good because maybe she's an inspirational person to you. Very Yes, so those are all great things. What else did you say there? You know, I have like magazines where I've been like the front cover. I have like just accomplishments, like little awards that I've that I've Yes, that's really great to

have because all of those things really support your work. Like, for instance, they say that like some celebrities they get on a treadmill and they kind of run towards like what they want, like an an oscar or something, and so it's like you're moving towards what you want. So you could also have something that you're facing that constantly reminds you of your goals and aspirations. Okay, so this is my next question. I'm so glad you said that

because I have my vision board. I did a vision board this February and I have it in my closet right now. Should I move it to my office? Well, so, closets and functional represent things that are even if it's like a big walking closet, it's something that's a little bit hidden in private, like someone visiting you or guests wouldn't necessarily go into your closet, right, just someone that is very close to It's really private. And so the vision board is great, but maybe created that with some

personal things in mind. But if you do put it out somewhere that you can see, it will kind of step it up to making it manifest more outwardly in the outward world. Oh okay, perfect. I did have another question because I don't have any natural plants in my office. I have they just gave me for my birthday, um, a fake plant, which is really cute. So that's one question the plants. Should they be fake or real? And then I also put a Buddha fountain that's flowing constantly

in the office. What do you feel or what do you think about that? As far as functually goes, So, plants are great. Ideally you want a living plant if you can manage it. If someone has, say like a vacation home or someplace that they're not in, often it would make more sense to have a fake plant. But if you do have a fake plant, it should be like so realistic that you would go up to it

and touch it. So ideally, you want to have something that's living and growing because it actually has more life energy and it asks something of you, right, whereas a fake plant is kind of like a dust collector. If you can, you should go for the real thing, just like you know, you would want like a real friend in your life, not a fake friend, right, So you want to have something that's very authentic. And I think that you're absolutely right, Like that's a great way to

look at it. Do I want real friends or fake friends exactly? Of course? And we water the plant, you know, And I talked to my plants. I have a lot of real it. I believe a lot in real plants all over my house. This is the first big plant that they gave me, and I thought, okay, it's perfect for my office, but maybe I'll move it. But yeah, you're right, they do as something of you they want,

you know. I talk to them. I put on music, classical music for my plans, and I water them, and you know what I mean, Like I just feel like they're living and they're growing, So it makes so much sense, Like do you want a friend or people to support you, or a partner that you're interacting with, or do you want something that just doesn't move and just will look

pretty right? Yeah, oh my gosh, Okay see okay, So now as far as the fountains, I have a fountain outside my home, I have a Buddha fountain, and then I have a little Buddha fountain inside the office, and then one in my living room in the entrance. Okay. So in functually, like water is one of the five elements, and water can also represent wealth and prosperity. And you know, just like if you try to hold water in your hands, what happens. It starts, yeah, going through your fingers, It

starts pouring a half for an hour. Yes, So just like with money too, if you try to hold onto it, you only have that and it's slowly come trickles out of your hands. But if you're giving away money, if you're spending money, if you're investing in good things in the world, it'll all come back to you. So water represents this movement. And and you talked about things being stagnant, it's not when you have stagnant water it starts to

smell bad, it's no longer healthy. So you want to have moving water like a fountain, to represent bringing in fresh energy, fresh cheat which is life force energy, to bring in more abundance and bring in more prosperity, because we as humans really need water, right, and we need fresh water. So if you have like a fountain in the front of your house or like the living room one, or outside of your house, ideally you want to have the flow going towards your home. It's not the money.

Isn't flow going away, so Buddha might maybe it goes up and out. Yeah, it goes out of the head and then down. Yeah, So that's kind of neutral. But if you wanted to get one that was directional, then you would want to have it directed towards the house because the ideas you want the water to float towards you and not away from you. Now, as far as colors in the home, I I love I believe a lot of also in colors, even the colors that we wear. But in the home, is it better to have more

neutral colors brighter colors? Well, that also depends on what kind of energy you you want to bring into your home. So I always ask people to like, what is like, what's your favorite color? My favorite color? Oh, it changes right now, I have to say it's purple. So you can have like you can bring in color and small ways like with accents and have purple around you. But

there's also different tone to purple. Right, Purples a color that invites in abundance and prosperity, but also like self worth and confidence, and it's very like elegant, and so having that in your like splashes of that in your bedroom could really support all those qualities in your in your office. To Actually, purple works in a lot of ways because purple is red and blue, so it's kind of a mix of red, which is fire energy, and blue,

which is wood energy. The fire is kind of obvious, it's like passion, inspiration and being seen in visibility and being recognized and recognition, where the wood energy is growth and transformation and movement and new beginnings and things starting, just like the energy of spring or when um like a seed is opening up and becoming a tree. So having those things together is a really great color. So maybe you know there might be reasons why you're your color.

Your favorite color changes depending on what you need, but like in general, like for your bedroom, sometimes you want to avoid like very active colors, like a lot of red is maybe too stimulating and distracting. And sometimes like people have like black bedrooms because that's getting kind of popular now, but that can be difficult if you're depressed, because it makes you more depressed. Okay, So black black, I mean I wear a lot of black. Is that

necessarily necessarily bad? But what do you feel about the color black? I mean I wear a lot of black too. I like black, but but it's different when it's on your walls, like when it's on your environment, because usually when you wear it, you're not you can't even you don't look like see yourself. So black is related to wisdom and water energy, but it can also lead to

depression if if you're already prone to it. So I've noticed some people, like a couple of my students right now, have black in their bedroom and they both have problems with depression. So I had to say, like, babe, you need to change your wall color. But if someone doesn't have any problems with depression, then black could be okay. Okay,

And what about neon? Those are just more active colors that you would call them right, like just brighter, which means yeah, so brighter, or more bold colors or more primary colors, so like, for instance, neon colors. If you had that in your bedroom, especially if you had insomnia, maybe not a great thing because it's very stimulating, but it's more appropriate like in your office, like you said,

like a lit up sign. And one time I had a client put one right at their front door to bring in more more energy because the front door represents how energy comes to you. It's like your connection to the world. So I really wanted to get her to bring in more energy from the outside world. Okay, now that you're you're talking about that reminds me because when I had a salon, someone had told me that it was good to put a mirror right in the interest.

When they walked in and they said it was good for the functional I was like, okay, I just did it. But what do you think about that? There's different ways of thinking about mirrors, because there's dozens of schools of functional and some of them say the mirror in front of the door is not good because it pushes the

energy back out. Well, let me tell you I did not do well they're financially So that's why I was like, let me ask, because it was a big as mirror that they made me by, and I listened, and I wish I would have it was it did not do well financially, it was not it wasn't fluent well I mean, but actually the functionary practice, it's okay to have the mirror across the door, but it depends on what it's reflecting.

I see, okay. And now talking about people that are, you know, purchasing new homes or moving into new apartments, what do you suggest that they avoid when they're looking, you know, or either looking or moving into a new place. I would say the number one thing is to make sure that you pay attention to your first experience of the space, especially if you're an adult and you're you're not like retired or something, but because if you're retired,

it's a little bit different. And I'll explain in a second, But on your way to see the house or the home, did you get lost or is it really hard to find the front door, or did you like have some kind of negative omen or like just paying attention because that can represent how the energy comes to you. If you live in that home. So like, if you have problems finding the home, then opportunities and energy good energy will have difficulty finding you too, so that trickles down.

But if you're if you're older and retired, maybe that's okay. You want to kind of stay hidden, you don't want people to find you. But in general, most people want like opportunities coming to them. They want to meet new

people or maybe meet a partner. And so if the front door is really hard to find, or the doorbell doesn't work, or like there's no number on the door, or the house all of those things, if you can't find the house, then how is like your future partner going to find you, or how is like that amazing job opportunity going to find you if you can't even find it easily. So then from true has a lot to do with like the intentions you set forward, what

you're looking for in your life. I mean, like you said, an older person, if they're looking where they don't want to be found, then it's okay because that's what they want. Okay, perfect. I mean I had some idea and I feel like my inner self knows a lot of this, But now I'm so glad that I'm asking you all these questions. I feel like it makes more sense all around. Well if your intuition and your common sense really play a great part in it, and also a lot of it

is common sense. Okay, as far as beds, I once heard that having your bed or your feet when you're asleep, when you're lying down on your bed facing a doorway, is not good. So ever, since I heard that years ago, I said, Okay, I've always placed my bed where it's completely my feet are away from the doorway. Does it have to do with functual at all? Yeah, So you know how you talked about having your desks so your back is up against the wall and you can see

the door. So that's called the commanding position, and you also want to have that for your bed too, if possible. Um, it's really important for your bed actually, So you don't want to be position so that, yes, your feet are pointing straight out the door, or that the doors to

your back or behind you. You want to be able to lay in bed and like lean up against your headboard and see the door without being directly in line with the door, so you're kind of diagonal that way, you can see all of the energy coming towards you can see all your opportunities and you're not surprised while you're sleeping and you're in a safer position. NA, So I'm good. My bed is good. Good, My position is great. Okay. Now as far as your bed being high or low,

does that have anything to do? Yeah, you probably wanted higher rather than low, because again, like when things are too low, it causes more depression. So it depends. If you're totally okay with you know, you're not depressed at all. But when if you have a tendency towards the depression and you have a very low bed, it's like it's so hard to get up, you know, and you can just like roll off your bed into onto the floor.

And when you're up higher or in a normal height bed, you feel more uplifted and it could help raise your energy levels in your mood. Oh my gosh, it's I'm going to tell my brother this because Johnny, he lives here with me. His his name is Johnny, my little brother. He's twenty one years old and he suffers a lot from depression. And my boyfriend and I have been telling him, hey, like you need a bed frame. And I told him.

I was like, I have a feeling that it would help because it's literally his mattresses on the lore it's very low. You definitely want to get them a bedframe because also you want to have a lot of space around you. You want to have the energy flow around you while you're sleeping, Like you don't want to have your bed your mattress right on the floor, and you don't want to have your like a platform bed or

lots of storage under your bed. You want to be able to have the che or the air flow around you. I hope you guys are learning as much as I am. Okay, And even if you don't believe in the functuate you guys, I totally get it. Fine, but I feel like you do have to be open to this, right, Yes, But also it's a lot of common sense, like the like sleeping over something, so in general, you don't want to

sleep over something super emotionally charged or super active. So for instance, some people have letters from their X or photos of their ex underneath their bed, right, so just by having those objects, you're already acknowledging that they're meaningful, that they're special, that they have energy to them, or else you would just dispose of them, right, So you're you're keeping these things because they have memories, you have energy.

And then if you're sleeping above them, you're spending all this unconscious time sleeping right on top of all these emotionally charged items. So it can it's like no wonder, like you aren't getting over your ex because you're literally sleeping on the memories of them all the time. You know. Sometimes I have students where their boyfriend has like pictures or something from their ex wife under the bed, and you don't want that there, right, So it's common sense.

You're like, get that out towards the door, you know, not under where we're sleeping. Yeah, so you're right. It is a lot of common sense and intuition. Because I just recently went through through a divorce and for a little bit not too long, I had and I had

forgotten I think that's why. But I had my wedding dress in a box in the closet and he had already moved out, we were already separated going through the divorce until I realized, oh my gosh, that's my wedding dress, and right away I was like, I gotta get this out of the house, and I made sure I cleaned everything out, every picture, and not that I threw it away. I just put it outside of the house in a storage because I wasn't ready to dispose of it completely.

But I did take it out of our bedroom, and I'm like, I don't want any of this, like so it is kind of like you know, you kind of just I felt like cleaning. I'm cleansing myself of past things. Yes, and it doesn't have to be like you throw it away. And I think that's great that you started first with like putting in a storage and then when you're ready, you're let go of it. That having it in close proximity to you, it really keeps those cords of attachment.

Now that I'm talking to you, I remember he's no longer in my life, but I had a friend and he always always kept his car just a mess. And I'm like the type of person that And if anyone's listening and you keep your car mess, like you know, I'm not judging you or anything, but for me, it's like it's so important that my bedroom that my car. It's just if there's trash in there, I take it out, like I mean, functually, works and also in anywhere, right,

I'm like, what I'm getting here. It's not just furniture, it's not just your home, it's your car. And Duty was always like depressed and he wasn't moving forward in his career and stuff like that. And I was like, dude, you need to clean your car. And he's like, what does that have to do with it? That has nothing to do with it. I'm like, okay, well I just left it like that. I mean, I was like, I'm not gonna say anything more because he got mad. But

I'm like, you know, like you need to clean. Yeah, because sad energy trickles into all aspects of your life. If you can't even like pick up the trash in your car occasionally, how is that affecting everything else in your life? See you guys, That's why for me, it's so important to have a clean house. Dust for me, oh my gosh, I can't with dust. I feel like when there's so much dust in your home, in my mind, I feel like the energy can't flow. It's just it's

it gets stuck. Everything gets stuck. Or if you have spider webs, I'm so big on that, like spiderwebs as soon as I see, and I'm like, I take it off. I dust everything because I just feel like if not like things don't flow. Yeah, well, it's exactly what you say. It's it's very sticky, and the more of that that accumulates,

it does get you stuck. And I mean we can all imagine how sad it is to go into a home where someone doesn't even care, or like a hoarder's home, or just even a place where all the dust is accumulated so much it's like they've given up on life in a sense. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it just kind of it doesn't allow new opportunities to come, like gets stuck in the front door, I feel. I think that's what completely changed, because for a long time I lived here and I did not feel like it was my home,

Like I just felt like just completely off. I moved here and I was really busy and I didn't really give it the attention and the love that it required. I feel, so finally I took like three days off. And now that you're saying that, like I felt like there was so much clutter that was building, like things were just being like you know, stuffed in certain places. But when I finally got my hands on it, and I started doing things myself and moving things and situating

things away I wanted. I feel like everything has just been better, even closet space. You know. I used to do color coordinating in my closet. Now I just do it by like style, you know. But I mean as far as like closet organization, Like, what's your opinion on that? Well, I think you know how you're talking about energy being really sticky, So when you even have like a lot of clutter in your closet, it tends to accumulate war or like if you take some clothes out of your closet,

suddenly like you have new clothes going in. Right, Yes, the universe always wants to fill that empty space, so it's good to keep that energy moving. And also I really recommend people take a look at their closet and see if there's something in there that like maybe they're holding onto, like those genes from high school that you're going to fit into one day. You're holding onto that

idea so tightly. Similarly, you're holding onto your weight as well, And so when you can release things, release your hope to fit into those genes one day, you could also release, wait and let things go. So it's not necessarily about how you organize it, but it's rather looking at how full you keep your closet. Of your closet is always full, you won't have any space to invite anything new. But letting things go, taking things out, you create some space

for the universe to bring in something new. Just like when you take things out, you're like you can find some some beautiful things to bring back in. Yes, absolutely, it's just like kind of removing that stuff that like sometimes we hold on to it because we're like, go, I have a memory with the shirt, I don't want to give it away, and it just sits there. Now

I'm like, no, it's okay. If I already wore it, I wore it once twice, I'm gonna go ahead and donate it and like you know, you keep that energy flowing. And even I feel like with money, I believe in in in giving back and saying, okay, God his blessed me, the universe has blessed me with this, I'm gonna go ahead and give back in some way to different people, paying it forward sort of thing, you know what I mean? Yes, exactly,

that's like that idea of water. If you try to hold onto it, it's not going anywhere, and it gets stuck, it gets a stagnant. But really, you want to have your energy flowing. You want things coming in and out of your closet. You want to have generosity and offer things to people. And and like you said, pay it back and support other people because so many people have supported you. Yes, absolutely, that's how I feel in my good world. My fans give me so much, and I'm like,

I have to give back. I feel like it's my my responsibility, my duty. Like it makes me happy too. So oh my gosh, I love this conversation. And and you do have three easy tips that you can give listeners to maybe like better their their place, their home. Yeah. So the first thing is, remember I talked about the front door that represents your face to the world. It's like the first thing that you see when you come home and the last thing that you see before you

leave and go out into the world. So it's really important to keep your front door really tidy and make sure that the door opens well it's not you can open it all the way, like you don't have a bunch of like coats hanging on the back of it so they can't open. You want to make sure the door it's well oiled and clean, so when it's in disrepair, that means energy can't come into your life, so you

really want to um make sure it's well kept. And then the second functually tip I would give is the stove. So the stove represents your wealth and how you nourish yourself in the world. So you want to make sure all your burners are working. So your burners represent your wealth. So if you have a broken burner, it means like that some of your wealth isn't able to come to you because it's being depleted. You want to have all your burners working well and properly, and make sure that

you use the stove every day. And one tip I give about the stove is like, do you have a favorite burner? I do when you're standing in front of the stove the first two on the right side. Okay, the more burners you have, the more wealth, because some people and small apartments only have two burners, and you want to make sure you have more and more burners is better, so with your favorite burner. So tomorrow, the

next time you go to your stove. Instead of just going to your favorite burner, try a different burner and take a moment, like a mindful moment before you turn it on, and just to intentionally pick a burner and

it could be the same one. But instead of mindlessly going to the same thing every time, you can start to create new neural pathways and new habits and look at the world differently to open up new opportunities, because if you always go to just the same thing, there's so many opportunities that you can be missing out on.

I usually ignore the back ones. You know. I'm a creature of habits, so I usually go for what like but wow, okay, yeah, I want to open up my horizons for sure, Yes, because like, if you go through life always kind of going to what's easy, you might miss something that you didn't think of before, or someone you didn't see in your life, or some opportunity that was always there, like that backburner that just doesn't get any attention. I only got to give them love. The

ones in the back keep perfect, okay. And the last thing would be I would say to you, make sure that all your windows are clean and working well, because your windows represent your eyes and how well you can see the world and how the world sees you. So if you have windows that aren't working well or that are dirty, it can obscure your view and obscure the way that you see things around you. So in order

to see things as they are. For the beauty in the world, if you could see the beauty in the world clearly, you have so much more joy in your life. So to clean your windows, yes, clean your windows. You know, dustop, all of dust, guys, all that good stuff. Oh my gosh, I love it. I learned so much. Okay, now, Angie before we go, because this has been so great, Thank you so much. But you do have a podcast, right, Yeah? I do. I do. So I have a functional podcast.

It's called the Holistic Spaces Podcast, and I have a business partner. We teach functual and so we just chat about functui and different things, like we have a recent episode about like functual symbols or how to incorporate simple tips in your home for a function. And then we also do a monthly energy reading. I love it. Oh my goodness, you guys listen to it. I'm definitely going to be listening. And just another thing and your social media handles. Share so we can find you, so we

can follow you, keep up with you. Oh yes, I'm on Instagram and it's just my name at Angie chow A and j I E c h. Oh perfect, Okay, I'm gonna follow you too. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Angie. Honestly, this has been amazing. I am so happy. I've learned so much. I'm going, I promise you, the next time I cook, I'm going to use the back burners on my stovetop. I love it. Yes, And before we go, you guys, I want to share a quote with you.

You know, it's my motivational quote every week. The quote is the secret of change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting the old, but on building the new. And I thought that was perfect with today's conversation. So again, Angie, You're amazing. Thank you to everyone that listens and is listening. Now, tell everyone about my podcast, Chicks and Chill. You guys, I will see you here next Monday, Los Amo Vessels. Do you need advice on love, relationships? Health? Imas?

I'm so excited to share with you that my Cheekies and Chill podcast will have an extra episode drop. Each week, I'll be answering all your questions. Just given me a voice message. All you have to do is go to speak pipe dot com, slash Cheeks and Chill podcast and record your questions. I can't wait to hear from you. This is a production of I Heart Radio and Michael

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