Embracing our Bodies

and happy Monday. I hope you're all having a great week so far. My week has been a little crazy with work, but I can't complain. I've been traveling and finishing up some projects and I can't wait to share some of them with you very very soon. Today's episode is going to be a lot of fun for me because I'm joined by what am I s We're gonna be talking about something women think about a lot. At least. I have our bodies that includes our shape, our weight,

and what we're expected to look like. But we're not going to stop there. We're going to talk about accepting and embracing our bodies. So let's get into it. This is chick Ease and chill. For those of you who don't know who Jenk is, she's my younger sister. She is an entrepreneur and so much more. She actually just launched an athletic apparel brand called over Comfort, which I freaking love. The material, you guys, is a bomb, okay, And I know about work at close because I live

in it. So she really got it down with the fabric and not only that, but the mission behind it I absolutely love, So you guys have to check it out. So as a woman, and especially a woman in the entertainment industry, wait is something I think about all the time. Now I'm in a place where I love my body most of the time, there are still days where I feel a little insecure, and I think it's more of the outside noise that causes that. But there was a time where I really was just not happy at all

with my body. I don't know. I mean, I've gotten surgeries. I believe in plastic surgeries, guys like I'm a huge, Like it's your body, do what you want. I've got liposection, I've gotten breast augmentations and then reductions and then again, like it's been a struggle, and I think it has to do with the way that we were raised. My mom was very and I don't I don't blame her and I don't judge her for it because I know my grandpa was really hard on her and her sister

about their weight. So my mom and our household weight was always a conversation, like it was just since I can remember, you guys, And there was a time where I'm like, I look at pictures now and I'm like, Damn, I looked good. I I was thinner, you know, I look good and I didn't think I was then. And it's crazy because my sister Jackie just posted on that

the other day, like on her feed. We've all I think shared that, especially now that we're in the industry and you're expected quote unquote to look a certain way. I'm like, why didn't I appreciate my body then? I was freaking thirty pounds lighter and I still thought that I was big. But it's because of the stigma and the way that, again, we were raised and things that I think my sisters and I are trying to work through. And this is something my sister Jennica, which is here,

she's here. Let's like, I'm excited I'm gonna be able to speak to herz Jenica, Welcome to the podcast. It's no. I definitely agree that it was the way we raised. I always talk about it, like with like my friends or my trainer or whatever. They're like, how are you so disciplined? Like I'm like, I've literally been like this my whole life. Mom would always like she'd wake us up super early, let's go for a walk. She would write in my journals like this is what you should

only eat. No breads, no carbs, like only egg whites, grapefruit. It was really really hard. Like for me, it was okay, like I have to listen to my mom. And then as I got older and then Mom passed away, like it's like we had the reality show and then we were consistently in the spotlight. So it's like something it mattered to me like it was at that time. Yeah, I could say it was more about like what people

thought of me or whatever. But then it got to a point where I just like I just want to feel good, Like I got so tired, like I would remember like crying with you, like in dressing rooms, like I'm so tired of trying on clothes, like I hate shopping, like I hate it, and then now is just kind of like now, thank God, like brands are more inclusive of like plus size and like okay, like this is the plus size community and this is what it is.

And it's like I'd rather just own it and feel comfortable where I'm at because I feel good where I'm at. I know I could do more, but like I'm like happy with where I'm at, Like it goes support at least for me, where it's like all these people were talking so much mess about all of us, and it's just like they're always going to say something so like why I even care about it? But do you know though,

that you have a lot to do with it. You have a lot to do with the fact that now brands are more accepting of curvy women that we you know, women like us that have to go out there and it's it's hard. I think a lot of people look at us like, well, like we get a lot of messages, at least I do. And I don't know about you, Jenica, but like messages of of you really inspire me, like thank you, like for embracing your body. Now I'm I'm

embracing mine. But I still have tough days, you guys, And I think it's sadly what is out there on Instagram and what you're supposed to look like and this whole facade, because there's a lot of people that weren't born that way. And again I'm all about plastic surgery, do your thing, but it's like this kind of unrealistic expectation of how you should look. And for a long time,

you guys, I knew I was always thicker. I was always a thick girl in class and all my friends were like when I was a size nine I think growing up or an eight, my friend was of course afore So I was always that thick girl, but I always felt pretty good. It wasn't really until I started it started like getting into my head, like really really bad. Was when I got and stepped into this industry and so many people have an opinion and it's like, oh

my god, you come out on TV. You should not be that fat, And it's like I started looking at myself different in the mirror. And that's where like therapy kicked in a little bit more, and really words of affirmation and speaking, it's really how we speak to ourselves in the mirror you guys. That makes a huge freaking difference. And this as we spoke about this with Liz Hernandez on one of the episodes, and it's the power of words and it starts with us. And yes, I've been

tea since I was little. And I don't blame mom, to be honest, Like sometimes I would get upset and like, dude, this is the reason that I am the way that I am is because Mom was so tough on us. It's like she would grab my arms like, okay, if you eat that, it's going through it to your arms. Look at those guys, they're growing. And lat voice is always in my head, like every time I don't want to go to the gym, and like all I remember is like, oh, but you sweat so easily, you should

just do it. Oh. This is like Mom would always be like I'm so jealous that you get to sweat so fast, princess, keep going and keep going. I'm like okay, And then I don't even think people know this, but like it's like cause a lot of trauma, like at least for me, like mom, Like I love obviously I love my mom, but like she made me get surgery when I was fifteen, like the gas strick and like

all that stuff. So it goes hand in hand. It's like, okay, like I'm doing this literally for my mom, and then now that she's not here, it's like, okay, it's either I have to do it for myself, like I have to feel good. And at the end of the day, she always had the best intention. She always wanted us to feel good and look good and she loved us. Yeah, because she had suffered so much as well, which I

understand her now exactly. Now I can say now, I'm like, growing up, it was so hard, and I just like even there was times when I'm like, oh, my goodness as an adult and I'd be like, why was she like this with us? And now I can sit back and I'm like, I get it, Like she didn't want us to suffer what she had suffered through, and she wanted us to feel good. Even her sister Jackie. She sent her to fat Camp and Jackie talks about that all the time, so it was something that was always

on her mind. But because I think she didn't want us to suffer in this world that can be very critical, and I thank her now because I think because of her as well, Like I can withstand so much shit that is thrown at me, So I think her for sure, But I'm not gonna lie. And that's why I think

it's important. Now we're talking about this guy. So if women or parents out there that are listening to this podcast, the way you speak to your children is very important because it really takes a huge part in what they think of themselves and how they feel about themselves. You know what I mean, because it's it's it starts even in the womb, how you speak to your baby when when they're in your tummy and speaking words of affirmation and speaking words of life into them. And I'm not

saying that my mom didn't. She didn't know any better. Again, she didn't know any better. She didn't think that it was going to affect us in this way. Even then, like at the end, like she would always, she still had curves and she was still happy about it, like she would sing in her songs or whatever. And I think ultimately she just wanted us to be healthy, start now before it gets harder later, because it was harder for her at her age to lose the weight than

it is for now at my age. Yeah, that's what she would always say. In our household, it was we never had whole milk, it was non fat milk, egg whites, like Jennica said, we were not allowed to eat the yolk. So it's just a lot of little things like that. But I also I thank her because I think that it's it's the back of my mind working out and being healthy and you know what I mean, like because it just runs in our family. It's just that's what it is. Like we have to take care of ourselves

more than other people. And we've learned, I think, throughout the years to just embrace our body and embrace who we are. And I love to see you, Jennica, because I know how much you suffered with with your weight from like I don't know, I think you held were you when you started like really realizing probably like well, Mom sent me to camp like when I was eleven

or twelve. No, you went to suck up when you didn't, Yeah, I did, And then you and your boyfriend went to me up because I didn't want to either, and you got mad at me because I didn't stay longer. Really should I thought it was just Jessica, I mean Jessica Jackie. It was in San Diego. M Yeah, okay, well yeah I went and then yeah, but now it's like becoming like I wish I would have done it then because

the now, I mean what, who knows. But now I'm kind of just like I never really thought i'd be that person to like really see the gym as an outlet. But it's so relieving. I feel so good after. And it's such a good point that there's this quote that says, you never regret or work out, and you never do. You feel so good. It's gotten to the point for me where it's not just about losing weight to work out. It's for my mental health for sure. Like I feel

more empowered, I feel like I have more energy. I feel like I accomplished so many things that day once I work out. For sure, Right, if I work out, I'm good for the rest of the day. Like I feel like I did what I needed to do. Yeah, So tell a little bit about camp. Now that we got there and I had forgot, how was what was camp? Like? Oh?

That was horrible. It was not traumatizing, but I remember being in like the dorm rooms and like they would give you one little pack of gummy bears, those little snack packs for kids, and the girls would save them. They would put them in their drawers and save them because apparently you would only get so many here and then so they would eat them in the middle of

the night. Once Kurfey was up, you couldn't eat anymore, so all these girls would put them away and then they would eat them, and then like running around the track, and I was just like, oh no, like I need to go home, like I just can't, Like I can't, I can't be here and I don't. I'm not a very social person, like and being around people just gives me a lot of anxiety. So I just like in that, in that little space and bubble, I just felt like, oh no, I need to go home. I need to

just I'll figure it out. I'll tell my mom, like I'll go work out, Like I just can't be here. I can't do this. How long were you there for? I was there like three days. I was supposed to be there for like two or three weeks. Oh my goodness, Jennica, I'm so sorry. I was just listening to a mom. But but anyways, okay, So Jennica, like I said earlier, she was very very like a very shy, introvert type of girl. Now I love to see her blossom like she really like I see her on her posts and

I'm just like, do Jennica is hot? Is fuck? Like she is beautiful, She's got going on, Like I was telling her the other day, I'm like, dude, this girl is working out every single day. Like I've seen the transformation and how much she has lost on her own. And I want to tell you, Jennica that I'm very proud of you. I know that it probably hasn't been an easy process, right, Yeah, no, I think you're you know, because like you the first person I so, I'm just like, dude,

I'm so over this crap. I'm so over not saying the difference. I'm so over and not really feeling good because people are still telling me all these things like I could be as confident as I want to be, and like little comments like really get to me. So like yeah, like I have people like can comment back for me because if not, like it'll mess on my day or like I just don't want to deal with

it because I feel so good in confident. I worked so hard to get to where I'm at now, I don't need it, and those people generally don't really matter. Are those comments though, that you receive, Are they mostly about your body? Yeah, they're they're mainly about my body, or like, oh, you have all this money, why don't you just get surgery? Oh my god. A lot of them are very encouraging, like when I post my workout videos,

like I literally pray. I'm like, you know what, like I just hope that it inspire someone, and I get comments like oh, good job, good job job, which is good ultimately, thank God. But for me, it's like I've learned to like keep social media away so it doesn't affect my mind because I think that's what's the most hurtful.

And then I just get compared to you in Jackie a lot, so I'm just like, really, yeah, I don't what do you mean, like how you guys are skinny, or like, oh my god, like you don't even look like them, or this isn't that. So I'm just like, you know what I swear. I know I'm telling you.

People on social media can be so mean, but I've learned that it's like those people aren't busy enough, those people aren't successful enough, those people aren't even happy with themselves, because if they were, they wouldn't be there trying to hurt someone's feelings. Trying like busy people that are successful and happy don't have time to sit there and talk

ship on social media. Like that is so lame and whack to me, guys, if you are one of those people listening to my podcast, I want you guys to know, if you sit there and criticize people on social media behind a fucking telephone, you are whacked as fuck. I'm sorry, I just need to tell you it is so fucking unattractive that I'd rather someone come to my face tell me you know what I think this so I can tell you something back. But it sucks because there are

people that love us on social media. No, and like we meet the people in person and they're so sweet, like like everybody in person is so much more nicer, Like they'll come up when we are so pretty, like you've really inspired me to go to the gym and like to me, like I don't know why, but I'm just like, oh my god, thank you. Like they'll tell me thank you, and I'm like, no, thank you, Like that really helped me today that I'm really happy, like

keep going or whatever. So those things are like important to me and like where I feel like, Okay, it's worth it. Exactly, it's worth it, and that's what we have to focus on. And I think, do you you have more positive comments to negative ones? Right? I'm sure, yeah, yeah. And I think we've learned to just accept that it being in this there's always going to be that ten percent that they're going to have an opinion and it's probably a negative one and they're not gonna like you

no matter what you do. Before, I would love going on social media after posting something and then replying to people because I just I love having that direct contact.

But then I had to stop doing that because you come across some negative comments and it sucks because I felt like I was intending to the people that love me and that I love as much, but because I was also protecting my heart in my mind and saying I don't want to see negative comments because I'm not in the right place emotionally, because sometimes those comments are are harsh, like it's like like you're on a diet,

like they're fucked up. And when you're around p M messing, when you're a PM messing like it, it can really get to you. But I've learned to just like, no, okay, I'm not the first, I'm not the last. I know this is a part of it. And it's like really giving yourself therapy every single day, and like Jenica said, focusing on those people that really get it and that we're inspiring and that keep us motivated and keep us going. And this is why it's so good you guys to

take pictures of your progress. If you don't want to wear yourself, I get it, But if you take pictures, like Jenica just showed me the other day, She's like, do you see a difference? And I swear to you, I was like, I'm so freaking proud. She wakes up, she goes to the gym for an hour, She works hard. She's super disciplined. That's something that my mom. She taught us to be very disciplined to finish what we start.

And I thank her for that. Jennica like, I give you, like, honestly, a round of applause, girl, Like you've have been killing it in the gym. Girl, you look good. I don't know how much you've lost, but how much have you lost? I don't own myself. Okay, see, yeah, but I'm glad you took those pictures because I'm sure you could tell I do. Yeah, but I don't own myself because like literally, like how I would say, like the number on the

scow really doesn't matter. It just doesn't because I could weigh the same, but I have more muscle instead of fat. The weight it's not gonna measure my inches, so it's just like there's no point. Yeah, how to do that. My therapist told me to do that. They're like there's throwed away, like you don't need it, and it made you feel better. Yeah, some people believe in like weighing yourself. I don't like you know what I mean, It's not my thing. But pictures are a good thing to have, guys.

People Actually, j I have a question for you. Do you think that Latina's face added pressure to look sexy? Small ways, big breast and but like do you feel that I feel like it's kind of generalized. Is I don't feel like it's just for Latinas. Maybe more because Latinas have natural curves, they're thicker, We're thicker in that sense. Yeah, but I think everybody always has that pressure because it's what what Kim Kay has. She has thick thighs, a

big gass, and like a small waist. That's the ideal body everyone he wants to have because she is like

the social media idol. Yeah, like you know, it's a molded body and I'm a for it girl that you look great, you know, but as latinas you know, we have those and it's crazy because it's like you have this big button, these big guys and it's just and then we we don't want it, like some people are like, well people want that, Like there are people that would die for that body type, and I get it, you know,

but I do feel like it's harder for us. But it's also what we eat, like what we were raised with two like all we were given and beads and all those stuff. It's just exactly so it's like it's harder for us to lose the weight and to get that body because we eat all this stuff, which I'm not mad about. I'm happy with the freaking culture that I have, Like I know, I'm so happy. I feel like we have the best food and like I don't know, yeah, I absolutely I agree, you know, to answer that question,

I asked you. I do feel like they make it a little harder. I feel like you know that they want you to be who has a crazy, freaking amazing body, and it's just that that's what you should look like if you're on television, which I feel like mom made the difference for people though, Oh for sure, like she did honestly break barriers in that and like, thank goodness because even in her song, she's like, I don't have j Lo's body, I don't have Yrka's or whatever, and

it's like, uh not Malvina. Yeah. For for those of you that don't know that song, I'm sure you have. If you haven't heard, it's my mom's song. It's called that Malivina. It's a really good song. It's in Spanish. Listen to it. It's really like a feel good like I'm cute no matter what type of song. No even you though, like you like in your music videos, like I thought it was so cool, like now that you're showing your legs and everybody needs to know that you

would not and nobody notices these things. But chickens would never show her arms or her legs or nothing until like the last music video. Oh my god, she just did everything like it looks so good like and I just feel like it's just making a difference for everybody. Thank you, Jenny. Yeah, it was a thing for me. I don't wear shorts. And in that music video, in a music video where with cameras you look bigger, I said, if it, I'm gonna do it. This is what I

want to do. This is what I envisioned. And if there are people that don't like it, well whatever, I love it even on vacation, Like it's so funny even when our vacation, like she won't wear a bathing she'll wear bathing suit, but sure were like the longest cover up or like her rope or biker shorts or whatever, and it's like even then biker shorts are stretched. So but you've got you've gotten better and you've looked good.

But see when I went to to Loom last year, right, and I wore a two piece and I was just living my best life on the beach and they freaking got me in that freaking red bikini. But like, the crazy thing is they get you in the worst. You're just like moving and they're like they get you in the worst pictures and I'm like, it's horrible. There's zoomed in. I was like, why why is our media like that? Like, dude, my mind be like tough skin, because if you let them,

they will eat you out. Let me tell you, Jessica, how often do you work out five to six times a week, four to six, four to six defending, and how are you eating? So before I used to do keto, which helped, but it's not ideal for me the way I'd like to eat. So I kind of stopped and I leaned more into like clean eating and if I want something, I eat it in moderation. So I have a very very high protein diet. Nice. Yeah, see, I a keto. I like, I'm trying to lay off the cheese.

You know that it's like too much cheese. But honestly, I think guys, it's very important to know what works for your body. Like literally everybody is different. Okay, listen to that again. Everybody not just everybody, everybody is different, so you have to know what works for you. Another thing that works for me is intermittent fasting. That has

helped me so much. I eat from twelve to eight pm and I fast for sixteen hours and that really helps with my metabolism, with my mental clarity, and like, if you guys haven't heard about it, go like research it. I really love it. And I work out I don't know anywhere. I try to do five times a week, um, five times a week, if not at least three. And I like to do a lot of cardio. I haven't been doing a lot of weeks lately because I don't have a lot of room here and my trainer and

I haven't been working out, But cardio helps me so much. So, Jenica, let's talk about music a little bit. So what songs do you listen to that make you feel like a ad bit, especially like when you're working out, Like what do you like to listen to Bad Bunny? Yeah, she's in love with Bad Bunny, you guys, she wants to sit on his face. No, it was like his No, his songs are so like you know what, Like he's like a fucking type of guy. So I'm just like, dude,

like really get into it. Even if it's like like you really listen to his lyrics, he's just like you know what, Like there's no time to wait. It's just fucking with your life, So like just do it. I love it. Yeah, because for me in music is a huge part of my life. Like I feel like I could be sad and I put on a song and it just reminds me of like hell, hell yeah, I know who I am. I know what I could do,

Like you know what I mean? Do you feel like your weight or the issues that you had with your weight, like, have they played a huge part in maybe you're like depression and anxiety? Like can we talk about that a little bit? It definitely has. Like if I'm not happy with my weight, I'm just not happy in general, which I think is super important. Why because well, at that time, like when I was in a really really pressed I'm really anxious, like I wasn't seeing results. I've struggled with

it my whole life. I should have listened to my mom before. Like all that stuff runs through my head and it's just difficult. It's like, dude, like if I don't see a difference, then what am I doing? Like why am I like starving myself? Or why am I

working out so hard? Or you know, And it just put me in a really dark place where I'm just like I've kind of started letting go and I kind of like you know what, Like whether I see a difference or not, I'm getting healthier, I'm stronger, I'm stronger mentally, Like my working out has definitely it's an outlet for me. If I don't go, like I just feel like, okay, I don't know, like I'm stricter on myself that day,

which isn't healthy. So I've learned to just like balance myself out and I'm still learning like the balance between like eating a cheap mail and like not feeling guilty for it or not working out and doing something else. So it's definitely been an outlet for me, and it's helped me mentally a lot. And I think everybody has noticed that as well, Like for me, it's a part already, Like if I don't work out during the week and I don't have therapy, it's not going to be a

good week. So you've you've come to the conclusion of working out is part of my mental health and it's just a part of my life for the rest of

my life. And therapy as well, right to help with everything. Yeah, and I think that that's also the good that you're talking about because you're so young, you're twenty four, right, Jenica, She's gonna be twenty this year, so she's twenty four, and the fact that she is doing this at such a young age, I hope that she can be an of inspiration to all of you that are listening that either you're younger or older than her or her same age. It's part of just knowing like what works for you

and therapy. You guys, I can't say it enough. I always talk about it, but therapy so important, especially in the world that we live in today with social media and all these standards, and like, it's just it's very very important, and I would highly recommend it. And I think that that's great that you're still doing your therapy, Jenny. As far as that relationship, because you haven't been in a relationship for a long time, has that been my choice?

Do you feel like you want to be in a good place mentally and emotionally or you just haven't found the right person? Like, what do you think has played a role in that that you've you've been single for what like two years now? Basically yeah, but fun. But it's like I've made the choice of being single because I feel like I don't have time to waste anymore. And I'm not saying like the next person I need,

I need to marry. No, I feel like I have high expectations, Like I think I'm pretty cool and like I'm pretty disciplined, and I know what I want in

my life. So it's like you have to kind of be on the same level as me, and if not more, because I don't have time to teach you how to do all of this or teach you how to like take care of someone like I don't have that time, and and and part of it could be my body because I have these two guy friends that go to the gym, and all they talk about are the girls at the gym and like how they're skinny and how they have a fat ass. And I'm like, is that

really all that matters to you? Like I'm being like, I'm being serious, Like do you guys just go to the gym because for them it boosts their ego, like it boosts them to work out harder at the gym. I'm like, are you getty serious? Parts of that? When I hear it from my friends, I'm like, that's not cool, But it doesn't matter to me, Like I know, the next person I need isn't gonna worry about my body

or isn't going to worry about what I eat or whatever. Like, So now that I see guys like it does put a hold on what I I have to train my brain. I'm like, Okay, not all guys are gonna be like these guy friends. And I've told them, I'm like, you guys are like kind of dicks for like doing that. And I've heard personal conversations that they've had about girls. I'm like, and I've told them, and I call them out on them, like, you guys shouldn't talk about girls

like that. Don't be a jerk, Like every girl is beautiful, Like you don't know what they're struggling with. What if they can't or oh, this girl has such a flat ass. I'm like, well, what if she can't get a fucking ass? Which shouldn't matter. So I mean, ultimately, like, if I'm not a relationship, it's because I'm choosing not to be and I'm and I'm choosing to wait and be smart with my decisions because I generally don't have any more time to waste, And like, if you're not gonna like

me for me, then don't come out here. Like, don't don't do it, you guys, A round of applause, standing ovation for Jennica, because it's admirable that you're so young, and I think it has to do with you are the youngest sister and she has seen the mistakes that Jackie and I have made. I'm so freaking proud of her. I'm so proud of you, Jenica, because you're so smart, so independent, and it's just like, dude, like sometimes I

swear to you. I call Jenica. Jenica's my best friend, and I call her and I'm like, this is what's going on, And the advice that she gives me is fucking crazy. Like the thing is that, like I can give someone a lot of really good advice, like I'm good, Like I feel like I can stand outside the situation and give you some bombss advice. But when you're in it,

it's hard for you to see things. You know. So I call Jennica and I'm like, in, Jenica straight up, and she's going to tell you how it is and look at her like I just I love the fact that she is choosing herself right now. She is taking that space because she was in a very in a long term relationship. And I think she's done well with saying I'm going to take this time and space to take care of myself, to take care of my body,

my mind, body and soul. And I don't think we're ever going to be fully You can't be like, oh, I'm fully ready, yeah, and I'm ready to be in a relationship, like, but you gotta be more ready than not like where you're like, I'm good, like I'm good with who I am, with what I have to offer and what I'm going to accept and not accept in a relationship. And I think that that's a fucking beautiful thing, Jessica. And damn my god, good I did good raising this

little groannut. So going back to like the industry, there's been many times when I thought if I was this size in the English market, I would be celebrated like a Lizzo like Adele was. Now she's thinner. It's like more accepted in the English market it's in the Spanish. And that's just the truth. It's almost they're very, very judgmental. And I've been told a lot like oh, you have such a pretty phase, so when are you gonna lose weight?

I mean, straight up, like I remember being in an interview with Don Francisco and he told me, like on the break, he's like, and I had just lost I think like fifteen pounds, and it's something that I've always been up and down with my way, always like I feel like I take care of myself more than the normal person, and it's always just been more difficult for me to just drop as much weight as like the

average person, you know. And I've gone to like a hormone therapy, like try to like figure out my thyroid situation, because there's a thro situation in our family, and it really can affect you because it's like I don't think I'm that bad, but for you, I am. And I do think that if I was I don't know, like forty pounds lighter, maybe I would probably have more oppert tunities.

I could be wrong, but I do think that I can't complain too much as plus size because when I started becoming an influencer, I wanted to I put it on like my goal is like, Okay, I want to be a model for this brand, this brand, and this brand, and I will think about them like okay, like they've included plus size women, which is obviously a plus which is amazing, but they don't include a woman in the Latin community like they'll do African American, which is awesome.

Like I'm happy at least the plus size community is being included. But when it comes to Latinos in our world, like say if we were going to Mexico, like you don't see like people on billboards for a plus size brand or whatever, because the way that Latinos are raised were to be like you have to be super strict

and super harsh on yourself. Like once you go to Mexico, once you cross the border and t J, all you see is the doctors or like there's like there's one that's like if you're a beast, called this number or whatever, and it's like it is harder in our community, like to be recognized or to be like honored for our bodies because it's not the normal or how these old

generations saw it. Yeah, because there are women that I've been around and I won't say their names, that are like way older than I am, and they have like amazing bodies, and I just I guess I'm just I refuse to live unhappy, Like I like to enjoy my food and enjoy life. So when we've gone to these luncheons and I'm with other artists and they see me eat a piece of bread, it's kind of like, oh my god, I can't believe you eat that, like kind of like no wonder you are the way you are.

Like they won't even touch, not even a tiny bit, And I'm like, are you really happy? Like like you gotta like give yourself some room to have fun, you know. And I've been around it, and it's like sometimes like if I would have allowed it, it could be very, very traumatizing. But I just constantly tell myself, I know who I am. I don't have to be the skinny girl to be talented to do what I do on stage. Like it's just it's literally telling myself this every single

day and telling myself that I am loved. And I think it's hard for me because I'm not like skinny, but I'm not placise, So it's like I feel like it's like a little bit like hard, but I'm like, fuck it. We gotta love ourselves, ladies. We've gotta love ourselves. There's gonna be someone out there for us that's gonna love us for who we are what we have to offer in every single way. I think we have to just stop like looking at these people on social media

as the example of what we should look like. And yes, like there's always for improvement on the outside, and it's taking a step every single day towards that, but not becoming obsessed with it, because when you become obsessed with it, like there's no way that you can be happy. Like, you have to find some balance in all of it. I'm a huge believer in Monday through Friday, watch what you eat, do your best to just give it your all, be disciplined, be consist stint, and on the weekends, live

your fucking life. It's all balanced, Like you can't like live your life just oh my god, like super obsessed. Like it's just people always like, oh my god, you because they criticize you too much. You're always happy, well because I'm like, I want to be happy, so I'm gonna do the things that make me happy. So that's

finding the balance in your life, you guys. And especially when it comes to wait because believe me, we know what it's like and how hard it can be and how cruel people can be, but we still know we's some badass bitches like Jessica has her overcomfort. Tell us about overcomfort, girl, I'm so proud of you. Well. Overcomfort is basically I started out with athletical error because I would go to work out and I would only find

workout closed at Target. And Target has good quality. But after a while it rips, it gets too stretchy, or it just doesn't work out. So I use the example of like I would hate going to shop at stores and I would cry because they never had my size or the size that they had just didn't work out. Like I just didn't feel good. It would be a

two X when it's really like an extra large. So I was just like, you know what, Like I want to make something that's accessible, that's affordable for people to go ahead and just shop and feel confident and comfortable in. And like I started out with the Feeling Good collection because ultimately I want people to feel good about themselves.

I want people to feel good about themselves mentally. That's what overcomfort is is like getting out of your comfort zone to really reach your highest potential and who you are mentally and physically. And that's what it's done for me. Like if I didn't leave my comfort zone of like getting out of my bed. You guys, I would sleep in until like two to three or four o'clock and I wouldn't do anything. And I knew I was depressed, but I wouldn't get out of bed, and it was

comfortable for me. I felt good being in bed. I felt something could feel good. But it's also you're in your comfort zone. You're not reaching out to really get to where you need to be or to what I feel like God has called me to do or to be in my in in the world or in this life and with his purposes for me. So that's why it's called overcomfort. I started with the Feeling Good collection because I feel like everyone deserves to feel good every day.

There's no reason for someone not to feel good. And I feel like once you wear something that you like, you feel good in it. The power of an outfit is insane, like when you're dolled up or once you get a workout done, you feel good. So that was the first collection, and I have so much more, like things that are that touched me to the core, like that have helped me, especially like since and I felt like it was like a whole pandemic thing where things were just like really really bad and I was in

a really bad mental space. And the things that have helped me that I want people to know that can help them as well. So whatever I did in twenty to help me mentally, I'm going to just basically come up with tell us your your your slogan again, calling overcomfort, Calling overcomfort. So it's basically stepping out of your comfort

zone and reaching your full potential. I love that. I love that, And it's it's just for women right now, right, No, the first collection was just for women, but everything else that's going to come out is okay and talking just for women, things about just for women. I really like. I think we talked about this, Jenska. I think it'd be great to eventually have our own gym just for women.

I would love that, right, I would love that, Like that's a goal because, like I said, my friends literally go to the gym not to idolize or like stare at women, but it's like an ego thing for them, and it's just like no, like I would always feel awkwards, like they have this thing on TikTok called oh this is for the shy girls or whatever Yeah, there's a bunch of girls that don't know what the funk to do in the gym, and I don't want to go because there's these hot ass guys that are just assholes.

So like make a gym that where everybody can feel comfortable. Yes, that's my biggest thing, because sometimes there are girls that go to the gym for the wrong reasons to find a dude and they're not really working out. And there are those guys that make women that really want to go in there and lose weight and sweat and not look cute, make them feel insecure and make them feel uncomfortable. So that's one thing that I have on my vision board, you guys, and I think I'm probably gonna do with

my sister Jennica. I'm excited for us to do like in all women's gym where you go in there and you box and you freaking just like let it all out. So you guys send us good vibes that can happen. So, Jenica, I don't know if you have anything else to add, but I've really enjoyed a conversation. You always amaze me. It's crazy because I talked to you every single day, but to have you on the podcast has been a

pleasure and to hear your your mind. You're just so intelligent and I'm always a channel, but it's the truth. Like I'm just so proud. I'm so proud of you, Jennica. I'm proud of you. Thank you for having me. I'd say it all the time, I don't really tell you, but like a lot of what I've learned, or a lot of where I'm or because of where I'm at is because of like my influences around me, and like you and Mom and like Jackie and learning different things here and there, Like I owe a lot of what

I am umto you. So thank you, Penny, I love you so much. Okay, well, thank you again, Jenny. And as you guys know, I always end my podcasts with a motivational quote, and I thought this one was very fitting. Okay, since we're on this topic, say goodbye to your inner critics and take this pledge to be kinder to yourself and to others. It's a decision every single day that you must take. Okay, some days will be harder than others.

But if you decide in the morning, I'm going to be kind to myself I'm gonna speak words of love. I love myself, I love my body. Everything's gonna be okay, Like all those things that I tell myself every day, it will really help. So so pledge with me that we will be kinder to ourselves and one another. You guys, thank you so much. Check out over Comfort and also Jennica your social media. Please tell us about your social media first, okay, well, JENNICAA Underscore Lopez and then Overcomfort

is Overcomfort the websites overcomfort dot com. And then we are launching something April fifteen. Look at her. You guys. Check it out. That is all for today on Chickens and Chill. I love you guys those enjoy your week. This is a production of I Heart Radio and Michael Dura podcast Network. Follow us on Instagram at Michael Dura

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