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ChinaTalk

Jordan Schneiderchinatalk.substack.com
Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at https://www.chinatalk.media/
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How Eastern Europe Sees China and The War in Ukraine

Matej Šimalčík, Executive Director of the Central European Institute of Asian Studies, joins from Bratislava to discuss: The reception of BRI in Eastern and Central Europe 10 years on How the war will accelerate changes in opinion towards China Jordan and Matej reminiscing about Pohoda , the greatest music festival on the planet (my writeup from 2015 https://medium.com/@jordanschneider/pohoda-the-world-s-greatest-music-festival-675f3da2ae24) This conversation was recorded Feb 27th. Outtro music ...

Mar 07, 202240 min

Emergency Pod: Tooze and Klein on Nuclear War, The EU's Future, and What's Next

Adam Tooze and Matt Klein return to ChinaTalk to discuss the war in Ukraine. We get into Why Adam is as scared as he's ever been What caused the EU to rally together 'NATO for Trade' for sanctions What this means for Taiwan Recorded on Sunday Feb 27th at 4pm est. Please consider making a donation to https://www.globalgiving.org/projects/ukraine-crisis-relief-fund/faq/#menu Outtro Music: As Chumaks Rode to Crimea for Salt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1j9t7Bd_fg Get bonus content on Patreon Se...

Feb 28, 20221 hr 10 min

Emergency Pod: The View From Prague + Future of the EU

Ivana Karásková, China Research Fellow and a Project Coordinator at the Association for International Affairs (AMO), shares her view from Central Europe. We discuss Why so many Europeans came out in the streets today The German political about-face in favor of supporting Ukraine What this means for the future of the EU What Xi thinks about all of this My half-baked sleep-deprived Biden hottakes This podcast was recorded midday US time on Sunday the 27th. Please consider making a donation to http...

Feb 27, 202231 min

Emergency Pod: What's Driving Putin, Sanctions, Drugs, Echoes from History, Xi, Chips

Chris Miller of Tufts joins to discuss Why Putin invaded Why he humiliated his security council If Putin is on drugs US public opinion and the politics of sanctions Sanctions' impact on the Russian economy Russia/China tech trade in the context of global sanctions The far-reaching implications of Ukrainian heroism This show was recorded on Feb 26. Please consider making a donation to https://www.globalgiving.org/projects/ukraine-crisis-relief-fund/faq/#menu Get bonus content on Patreon See acast...

Feb 26, 202245 min

Emergency Pod: Russia and Cyber Operations

Justin Sherman of the Atlantic Council joins to discuss Putin's history of cyber operations How he sees the current state of play What is Putin thinking about as he considers escalating in the cyber domain The tradeoffs of various policy choices facing American and Europeans leaders thinking about more aggressive offensive cyber operations Please consider making a donation at https://www.globalgiving.org/projects/ukraine-crisis-relief-fund/faq/#menu Outtro music: KALUSH - Не маринуй https://www....

Feb 26, 202225 min

Space Industry Literacy, NASA, and Elon versus the Taliban

What’s the point of NASA? Will Starlink end up funding Elon’s Mars dreams? To discuss the US space ecosystem in both the private and public sector, I am joined by Casey Handmer ( @CJHandmer ), former NASA Jet Propulsion Lab system architect and founder of Terraform Industries. We also talk about The potential for Starlink to improve internet access in developing countries Whether the US immigration system is hurting its ability to attract the best scientists Making electricity from air How much ...

Feb 21, 202256 min

Rainbow Farts: Chinese Internet Slang You Need to Know

Do you know your breaking porcelain from your eating human-blood-soaked steam buns? Slow Chinese author Andrew Methven ( @AndrewMethven ) joins me to talk about some of the newest and most interesting Chinese internet slang from the previous year and their origin stories. We discuss new words and phrases inspired by Haidilao cockroach scams, misbehaving tech companies and 996 culture, as well as: Which slang phrases have been co-opted into party talk Luckin Coffee founder Charles Lu’s latest ven...

Feb 13, 202240 min

China's Wolf Warrior Diplomacy, Part 2

Author of China's Civilian Army: The Making of Wolf Warrior Diplomacy Peter Martin ( @PeterMartin_PCM ) and Schwarzman scholar Jason Zhou return to take us from the young diplomats venturing out of China in the eighties to today’s Wolf Warriors and the adoption of more nationalist rhetoric. We also discuss Chinese diplomats’ and Canadian retirement homes Xi Jinping’s father-in-law and his admiration for Thatcher Tiananmen and rebuilding China back from diplomatic isolation Why Chinese right-wing...

Feb 04, 202259 min

China's Wolf Warrior Diplomacy, Part 1

Why has China and its foreign ministry struggled to communicate with the world? In his book, China’s Civilian Army: The Making of Wolf Warrior Diplomacy , Peter Martin ( @PeterMartin_PCM ) traces the history of China’s post-1949 diplomatic corps, from the impact of Zhou Enlai’s experiences in Paris to reluctant guerrilla-generals-turned-ambassadors trying to get to grips with manning embassies half a world away from Cultural Revolution China. Along with Schwarzman scholar Jason Zhou , we dissect...

Jan 26, 202254 min

Imperial Japan + Export Controls = Pearl Harbor!?

What can US-China relations learn from US-Japan relations in the leadup to WWII? To discuss, I’m joined by Stony Brook University’s Michael Barnhart, author of the 1987 Japan Prepares for Total War: The Search for Economic Security, 1919–1941 and the more recent Can You Beat Churchill?: Teaching History through Simulations ( https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Beat-Churchill-Simulations/dp/1501755641 ), with Scholar’s Stage essayist Tanner Greer (@Scholars_Stage) cohosting. We discuss What motivated ...

Jan 09, 202252 min

Year in Review + Future Plans for ChinaTalk

See here for the Year in Review in text form with lots of links: https://chinatalk.substack.com/p/2021-year-in-review-future-plans Support ChinaTalk on Patreon at https://patreon.com/chinatalk Fill out this form to help my 'market research' on how to construct the CCP course! https://forms.gle/dXKjzfXWyxyi2ixg9 Wanna cohost a ChinaTalk episode? Fill out this form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe0DIG0PlM3PxRZVoBs6BZYiTgQr8945Y44llRazzqQVzwwjw/viewform Here's how to record a voice...

Jan 02, 202236 min

Sci-fi Mecha Wu Zetian, YouTube on China and C-drama Fails

NYT bestselling YA author Xiran Jay Zhao (@XiranJayZhao) joins me to talk about her new book, Iron Widow, a Pacific Rim meets Handmaiden's tale sci-fi retelling of the story of Wu Zetian. Co-hosting is ChinaTalk's editor Callan Quinn (@quinnishvili). We discuss: Chinese history Easter eggs in Iron Widow Going viral and Youtube China content How censorship is stifling creativity in C-dramas Why Xiran thinks Confucius was an arsehole Link to Iron Widow: https://www.amazon.com/Iron-Widow-Xiran-Jay-...

Dec 23, 202131 min

US-China Science Relations and the PhDs Caught in the Middle

What's it like to live across the US-China scientific divide? Yale Law School postdoc, particle physicist and essayist Yangyang Cheng (@yangyang_cheng) joins me alongside undergrad Alex Liang to talk about understanding the other, how the personal can be lost in the noise of geopolitical tension and science across borders. We also discuss Power hierarchies and identities The “new red scare” and scrutiny on Chinese scientists The Large Hadron Collider as a Language as an instrument of state power...

Dec 13, 20211 hr 2 min

CSET: How to Break the Think Tank Mold

Dewey Murdick, director of CSET, discusses how the organization has brought a new level of rigor to hot topics ranging from chips to immigration and AI safety policy. We also discuss: CSET's Map of Science and the fate of Google Scholar Being beholden to the checkbooks of funders Topics that make policymakers' eyes roll - but shouldn't The optimal employment conditions for growing temperate, nice, low-ego, tasty fruit Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk for ...

Dec 03, 202149 min

Son Eating and Prince-Slaying: Stratagems of the Warring States

Can eating your sons be morally justified? Stratagems of the Warring States is a collection of stories compiled during the Han dynasty about the many states that fought for control of all under heaven in the Warring States Period between the fifth and third centuries BC. Featuring tales of hostages, statecraft, assassinations and throwing shade on princelings, in this special episode of ChinaTalk, voice actors Jacob Guenther and Chara Lin perform excerpts of Jennifer Dodgson's translation into E...

Nov 24, 202132 min

6th Plenum: Open Source CCP

What does the 6th Plenum communique tell us about where Xi wants to take China? What can you learn by reading the People’s Daily daily and writing a substack on it? And how would you design a course to learn how to read the CCP? To discuss, Manoj Kewalramani (@theChinaDude) of the https://trackingpeoplesdaily.substack.com/ and https://manojkewalramani.substack.com/ newsletters, joins to discuss. For an ad-free feed, please consider supporting ChinaTalk at https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk Outtro...

Nov 16, 202152 min

Selling China's Story

Winner of the inaugural Rhodium and China Talk essay contest, recent college grad Maggie Baughman discusses her essay on how the Chinese government uses Western social media to promote their desired image of China internationally with myself and co-host Jeff Kao, a computational journalist at ProPublica. We discuss: The companies offering Chinese entities access and marketing on western social media How China's approach to western social media differs to that in Russia and Iran Foreign influence...

Nov 07, 202134 min

Red Roulette: It Sucks to be a Chinese Billionaire

Red Roulette, Desmond Shum’s memoir of a fast life, deep in the bowels of Chinese politics, is the bombshell China book of 2021. It tells the story of his rise from an impoverished childhood in cultural revolution-era Shanghai and Hong Kong to his marriage to his social climbing wife with ties to the premier of China, and ultimate downfall as Xi’s anti-corruption push caught up with him. New York Times reporter Mike Forsythe (@PekingMike) and Lizzi C Lee (@wstv_lizzi), a journalist at the indepe...

Oct 26, 202146 min

Why Does China Have Blackouts?

China's energy problems are back in the news. Joining me to discuss them is Yan Qin , lead analyst at Refinitiv, with my Rhodium colleague Irina Liu as co-host. We discuss Whether China is serious about its climate pledge Why Chinese industry is moving westwards How "carbon neutral" became a hot topic The importance of global cooperation on climate change For an ad-free feed, please consider supporting ChinaTalk on Patreon here https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352 check out...

Oct 17, 202141 min

Science & Technology for National Security

Lisa Porter joins me with Eric Lofgren from AcquisitionTalk as cohost to reflect on how R&D works and doesn't work `in the Pentagon. Lisa served as was deputy director of Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering in the DoD, founding director of IARPA, and executive vice president of In-Q-Tel. We touch on: How the error correction of free markets is absent in DoD A round of overrated/underrated on critical S&T areas How successful government organizations empower their staf...

Oct 12, 20211 hr 12 min

China's Space Plans for the 2020s

Hosts of the Dongfang Hour ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3UXwB0UbUIg4z4vssUHPBw ), a podcast focusing on the Chinese aerospace industry, Blain Curcio and Jean Deville join me in another ChinaTalk space episode to talk about launches in China and public enthusiasm for space projects. We discuss The Belt and Road in space The differences between the Starlink and Guowang networks Europe’s dilemma on selling to the US and China China’s ambitious space projects in the 2020s Why the vibe in the ...

Oct 03, 202146 min

What Evergrande Means for China

Logan Wright of the Rhodium Group returns to the pod to discuss Evergrande's implosion, how we got here, and what this week means for China's economy. Read Credit and Credibility! https://www.csis.org/analysis/credit-and-credibility-risks-chinas-economic-resilience If you only have time for one section, start with section 6. Check out Jon's substack here https://jonathonpsine.substack.com/ Come work for Rhodium! https://rhg.com/careers/ My email is jorschneider @ gmail or on twitter at https://t...

Sep 24, 202131 min

Mao and the Monkey King

Julia Lovell, author of Maoism: A Global History and The Opium War: Drugs, Dreams and the Making of China , discusses translating Journey to the West ( https://www.amazon.com/Monkey-King-Journey-Classics-Hardcover/dp/0143107186 ), for English audiences. Joined by translator Brendan O'Kane as co-host, on this episode we discuss: The origins of Journey to the West and the exploits of its primate protagonist Sun Wukong. Mao's relationship to the novel and how he saw himself in the Monkey King. Why ...

Sep 22, 202139 min

Russia's Pivot to Asia From Czars to Putin

How did Russian imperial ambitions and expansionism eastward change over time? Joining me on this episode is Chris Miller , author of We Shall Be Masters: Russian Pivots to East Asia from Peter the Great to Putin . Chris is a history professor at the Fletcher School and Eurasia Director at the Foreign Policy Research Institute . Cohosting is independent researcher, journalist and fellow at the Wilson Center’s Kennan Institute Kamil Galeev . Reach out to him on twitter if you have a place for him...

Sep 14, 20211 hr 7 min

Tech Crackdown, Common Prosperity, and The Dao of ChinaTalk

I was a guest on the Compounding Curiosity podcast, a new show founded by a ChinaTalk fan that focuses on ASEAN, and we had a halfway decent conversation! Hope you enjoy. Mentioned Content: After Xi: Future Scenarios for Leadership Succession in Post-xi Jinping Era China Under Mao: A Revolution Derailed by Andrew G. Walder Outtro Music: 功夫胖KUNGFU-PEN -《阿修罗》https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAO-f6LxUI Get bonus content on Patreon See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn mor...

Sep 08, 202144 min

Tooze and Klein on China's Economic History and Future

How much credit can the CCP claim post-1949 for the higher level of human development relative to the level of visible capital in China? To discuss, historian Adam Tooze and Matt Klein of the Overshoot come for their third ChinaTalk appearance. We go back to the oft-forgotten hyperinflation of the 1940s to why in the 80s the World Bank believed a little bit of policy tinkering would lead China’s economy to skyrocket. Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at https://patreon.com/chinatalk for an ad...

Sep 03, 20211 hr 21 min

SpaceX, Elon and their Chinese Imitators

How did SpaceX revolutionize the global space industry? To discuss SpaceX's origin story and secret sauce, guest Eric Berger, author of Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX , joins the show. Cory Fitz, author of the TaikoNautica newsletter on China's space industry ( http://taikonautica.substack.com ), cohosts and shares his perspective on the Chinese launch ecosystem. We discuss: How SpaceX almost didn't succeed The role of government in the commercial space indu...

Aug 25, 202140 min

BadChinaTake on China Twitter

@BadChinaTake, an anonymous twitter account that combined vicious takedowns of, well, bad china takes with a blog https://wokeglobaltimes.com/ that does deep dives into everything from tankie subcultures to China’s xinjiang policy, is one of the best things to hit China twitter. BadChinaTake was recently unmasked as Jake Eberts, a young DC-based China analyst. He joins us today to talk about his journey to twitter infamy. We get into Whether the CIA, Chinese government, or George Soros fund him ...

Aug 16, 202141 min

Hot Space Summer: China's Commercial Space Boom

In 2019, Thomas Colvin, Irina Liu and Shirley Han at the Science and Technology Policy Institute ( https://www.ida.org/ida-ffrdcs/science-and-technology-policy-institute ) were part of a team of researchers that published what is to date the most comprehensive English-language overview ( https://www.ida.org/research-and-publications/publications/all/e/ev/evaluation-of-chinas-commercial-space-sector ) of China’s growing space industry. We discuss Why Chinese space startups say business acumen is ...

Aug 08, 202132 min

Tough Tech, Roombas, Valleys of Death, and Woolly Mammoths

How do Roombas illustrate the promise and peril of translational research? Which valley of death is really the worst valley of death? And how can woolly mammoths save the planet from climate change? To discuss, I have on: Andrew Sosanya, Policy Analyst for the Day One Project Adam Marblestone of Schmidt Futures (his policy proposal: https://www.dayoneproject.org/post/focused-research-organizations-to-accelerate-science-technology-and-medicine , his blog https://longitudinal.blog/, geo-engineerin...

Jul 20, 202142 min
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