Welcome to another edition of the Chicks on the Right Podcast. Very excited about our very special guest today, it is Sage Steel. Sage is currently host of The Sage Steel Show on Bill Maher's podcast network. She is a mom of three. She is a self described army brat and an alum of the ESPN Network. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it. I can't believe this is actually happening. Thank you. We can't either. We're super excited, very much, huge fans of yours. And by
the way, you're a graduate of Carmel High School. My son just graduated from there a few weeks ago, generation or two before him. I was just there this week, and I cannot believe you. That's where I was when I played golf of the name and got hit. Yes again, I was right at Woodland Hills Country Club, right there in Carmel yesterday. Yeah, I was there on Sunday because there was a graduation party. So we just missed each other. And that's a beautiful course. It is, yes,
and I feel it in my thigh. How nice the court is where I got hit. But it's fine, really, I'm fine. Oh my gosh. I love that Indie connection. Indian Yeah, Indy girl's all here. Yep, that's crazy, no idea. Yeah, that's amazing. And so I was just going to ask, like, how often you get back here, and you clearly do get back here sometimes not much. Actually, I was there because the NDY All Star Game was in Indianapolis with for the
Blizzard in February, and that shocked everybody. This golf tournament for Anthony Calhoun, who is the WISH TV Channel eight sports anchor who replaced me in nineteen ninety eight and has been there ever since. He just so much for teachers, treasures a wonderful community there. But otherwise I haven't mentioned I you game in years. COVID changed things, So I'm really going to try to fix that, and I'm gonna take you girls out for drinks. Let's go to
down. I love it. That's fantastic. That's great. So how are you doing, because, as I said, my kids just graduated from there. I know you're so I'm about to take him to college. I can't even think about it without welling up. And I know you're going through the same thing right now. Is this your How are you doing well? Yeah? I mean, this is our I have an older son who has special needs, and he's been he's lived in a group home now for several years.
But this is my baby boy, the only one I've sent off to college, and so we're about to be empty nesters and it is hard. How are you coping? She's my third of three, so I have been through this before. The other two were COVID kids, though, so they didn't get to go to a bunch of college campuses. The only one that allowed them on campus was where they are, five point University of North Carolina, which is an incredible, incredible school. I'm so grateful for what they've
done there. I'll just say this. The motto is God, Family, Country. Yeah, welcoming you to tobeying the president. If you are at about basket of game or lacrosse game and they stamps to the nation lands, and if your hat's not off, people come tapped you on the shoulder nicely and remind you I love that he's an immigrant. He's incredible. So we
got very lucky considering the circumstances for both of my older two kids. So they'll be a senior junior there at high point this ball and then my youngest daughter, Evan. She's going to be a freshman at Ole Miss Oh my day. But I will tell you I am very sad. Like I'm so proud of them. I'm so excited for Evan in particular as she's going into a freshman year. I'm heartbroken that this chapter in life is over. I'm I was very present for all these years because everyone told it tells us right,
it goes fast when it goes slowly. Years like, I was very present, even though kind of a crazy full time career and all that. But I just maybe it's because that means I'm old too, and I'm you know, I'm single, I'm divorced now, and it's not exactly how I
pictured this time in life to be, but it's God's plan. And so now I'm leaving the state of connect I stayed through once I left ESPN to let her graduate, and she's gone off in August, and then the day after she goes, I'm like back the boxes and I'm going to Florida. So I'm excited to start my own chapter, just in every aspect. And so there's a lot of positive that can come from some sadness. I think I'm trying to allow those emotions in and I hope you do too, while
saying okay, oh my gosh, it's my term. Finally it's okay, Yeah, that's really wonderful. Yeah. I have two older kids too. We have two that have left, and then we have a fourteen year old that we still have four more years last of high school and everything. So I know, I see like what Miriam has gone through and then what you have got, and I'm like, okay, I have four more years until I actually have to get in a fetal position and rock back and forth on
the floor. I just can't. I just can't imagine this house. I can't stay here. And again, yeah, I've moved a lot, We've we've been in this one perfe before we were across the country. So it isn't about the house. It's about the home that you create. And I did create home three years ago and they love it. But I cannot handle when they're gone for the weekend, like you know, with friends, much
less living here alone. So that's why I'm like, I'm out. Plus, the taxis in Connecticut are way too high, and iah are going on in Connecticut. I'm like, bye, how do you feel about them coming back because like Miriam's doing this too, or she's going to South Carolina,
she's moving in a couple months. And when the kids come back to visit from college, is that going to be Do you feel like that's going to be kind of weird for them to come to a different house or is that do you think that the home in Florida will be like a fresh start for everybody. That's why I wonder about Well. I bought it four years ago during pandemic, like I said, and I bought Lauderdale, South, Florida because one of very few places you can go direct from Hartford a direct flights,
So that was what I based it on. And knowing that there's several good airport options for Lauderdale West Palm Miami. So no matter where my kids are in the world, I figured they'd always come visit me there, even with grandkids some day. I figured that because it's right on the beach, and I'm like, it's Florida, Hello, yeah, all I want to come. But to answer your question this, it's actually a very sore subject here. My daughter, my youngest, is very upset with me for making
this decision, and I was yeah, because this is her home. I mean, this is where they call home and this town and I respect that. And as an army brat, as you mentioned at the top, I don't have that, so I've been very sensitive about that with them. However, first of all, their dad is going to remain here at least for a year, I don't know for how long, and he's from Indiana,
so they'll probably go back there. You guys are, but I just we've had some tough conversations and I'm like, everything in my career, once they got to a certain age, was based on their comfort, and I had one thousand percent. I'm happy with what I chose with that. Yeah, and the price already to turn down many opportunities, many things to be present to be where they want to be. And so she wants me to wait four more years until she graduates from college. I'm like, so for nine
months a year, you're gone. I don't have friend of group here ESPN. When I left there, it's it's you know, it's tough, but it's not like I'm in a great place. I'm just saying I need to step like that's over, and so to stick around where it's a small town. I'm like, and I just I also when I'll show up after this. I also want them to not wait until they're my age fifty one to focus on themselves while still be It took me so now to stop with the
guilt and everything else. And I'm like, I love you, and I will make every place the home. I promise you. I'm going. She asked me for one thing to keep her bedroom set, and so I wasn't say I'm having an estate sale as soon as everybody leaves, but I'll keep I'm like, okay, I'll keep your bed. You can do that. Yeah, And but little things we can do to help them still feel that connection. I will do what I can while finally saying yes to myself so
that they witnessed that as well. I think, yeah, there's a lot of positives, but right now she's eighteen. She doesn't want to hear it, and I get it. And you probably know this from being at military brat a military kid is that home isn't so much about geography. It's about the people in the place that you're at. It's the people, it's not
the place, right. But I totally hear what you're saying about just wanting the home to feel like home because we've been in this house his entire life, and so to pick up and leave and then have him not come back to Indianapolis necessarily is but to be going, I'm sorry, how is he handling that? He's surprisingly fine, Like I think I'm putting a lot on him because I'm worried about it. So I'm like, you know, is it gonna be weird? And he's like no, I mean, he's totally
chill about it. But I wonder how it'll be different, like act when he's coming home for Thanksgiving or fall break or whatever to a whole place that he doesn't have his own room in, you know what I mean. It's gonna be an adjustment for sure, it really will be. And so if there's things, you know, certain pictures, certain you know, done with his letters from running a cross country and track and I'm gonna I'm gonna create
that. And this is a condo though this isn't my forever. This is maybe a year and then I'm gonna see maybe maybe I'll end up in Nashville or Texas, like I don't, I don't know, but you know they're gonna be okay, my mother and father was my dad in the military. My dad was a retired colonel west Point, the whole thing and in twenty three years in the service, nineteen different home. Wow, oh my gosh, I don't know how military fail me to do you. My mother made
every house a home. It was not just four walls and we had no money. She wallpaper, she painted, she made, we got to got and every home and they had nothing. So I know for a fact that it truly is about what you, as the mother father make it, not about the other things. And I'd look at how my mom did that. She's a saint and it's remarkable, very efficient. So when I'm about this in September, I'm like, she's seventy five, I'm like, Mom, you got what more in you? Can? You come help me totally?
You know she will do you know, she'll be there. Yeah, the best. And I'm grateful. Yeah, I love that. That is awesome. So there, I'm just so what we wanted to tell you, because two things that I wanted to point out for those listening right now, if you don't follow Sage Steele on Instagram, you are missing out. I died laughing at the picture that you posted of your daughter graduating holding a cigar because your face in the background is everything, Like, can you replicate the face
that you made it her? I need the picture And I was like, oh, I'm so busted. Yeah I think I was just like, yes, what are you doing? Oh my god? That was everything. These kids are cool, make you're idiots. You don't even know what to do with it. And I'm like, we didn't do that. I mean, Carmel High School nineteen ninety we didn't have cigars. Maybe the guys did,
but I'm like, you never know what to do with it. You guys think you're cool and you look like jackasses, but yes, I looked like an unhappy and that picture and when they said it to me is like I have to post this. This is so well and it's so great because you that That's one of the things that we so appreciated about you. We played this clip from your show when you had Dana White on and you mistook him momentarily for Joe Rogan, and it was amazing, Like we could not have
loved it harder. The fact that you you didn't try to edit it out, you didn't like hold it back. You were like here's what I did. It was so embarrassing, and I'm sharing it with the world and Bravo. That was a moment. Yeah, thank you. I used to literally, do you know how many people every day I get DMS or from in an airport like way Joe Robin, I'm like, do you thinks your original like this happens every day? Now? You know? If it was?
My biggest champion with that whole thing was Dana White, And he still writes me and will send me clips. It's like, look, we're still drevening. I love it. But it was so funny because honestly, I call my kids the wrong name all the time and I know them pretty well, and so I had people saying like, oh, she didn't even know she was interviewing. I'm like, dude, I booked him, I've known him.
They watched my entire show, they would have known that. At the beginning of the show, we talked about Joe because he came in carrying Joe's drinks, so he was on my mind. This happened like an hour and twenty minutes in. Do you understand how I felt when I realized what I did, Like my heart and I was like I said profusely. I was like, oh, Dana, ya, you know what now I think it's
like it that's a gen X thing. Like it's so weird because you don't look like you're a gen xer because you look so much younger than Oh my gosh, you look amazing. I mean, I do feel like that sense of humility and that sense of humor and that ability to like just get like make fun of yourself is something that a lot of like the newest the newer generation, the youngest generation, they've kind of lost that a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know. I just think you're right. And I will say like it was for my first episode too, like that was the first one out of the gates. I'm like, well, and Dana's like, stage, you couldn't saw anything better than this. This is the best thing ever, Like right, well, it's like, yeah, it's not you because he was like he said, and he's like did she just call I'm like, Sana, wop it? You know, but I do her pull little drill control and it was a great lesson for me. And I'm like
I didn't even have to think about it and like leave it. Then I'm an idiot like we I think, let's come with Asian wisdom right where you just have you don't know yourself, then you've got into your life, Like, really, I've done enough to do with things on Rational TV. When you're live on National TV for two hours every day for thirty years whatever it was sixteen at ESPN and elsewhere, like you're gonna screw up. And and then I do feel and what I didn't think about this much. I just
like, keep it in hindsight. Everyone keeps saying. I do think that's what we need more of in our society, right. I think all of us would own our prap in every aspect of O life. It would be much better. And I think that you do come off across as human. Our politicians need that if you'd just own it and have some accountability. Because two days later I went on Gutfeld and gut Felt played it and I was like, oh god, like it was funny, and then Joe Rogan played
it, so anyway, thank you. I thought you guys handled it well. Thank you for not making me Oh my god. We loved it. Loved it, I mean, because because that's what everything is, so edited and filtered and manufactured now. It was just so refreshing to see such a real moment that you were willing to share with everybody. And I think that's that's what we love. I still have to think because they have the same Yeah, I still speak when I talk. I'm like, oh, which
one? Yeah? I think they look exactly alike too. I mean that was an easy mistake, and you know what, we know it wasn't a cheap fake. We know that thought. Oh my god, it wasn't. Yes. So, speaking of your interviews that you've done, I know you had RFK Junior on your show. Just really curious to know because I haven't had a chance to watch that whole episode. What what was your takeaway from that interview? And how do you think he is going to shake up this
race? Who who will he impact more? Mm? Well, I'll start with the first question. Like it was, I didn't know what to expect, but I was so excited and very curious. It was difficult. He's not he can go on and on and on, and he tells incredible stories. I'd learned a lot from him, but he's very different from Dana Way. He's very different from Sharon Osbourne and Kroll is dropping right now. Julian
and Michael like as far as having a conversation, very very different. I was not trying to go deep on political issues because he does that everywhere he goes. My goal for my show is to have conversations with people, and I hadn't met any one of the people I've had on except met Bar's the NBA players. The only person I had met previously in Dana. We had just communicated for years through social media or whatever on live TV, but never in person. So I just want to get to know who there as people.
And he was tough. He was tough to I was trying to crack awreadygain. I just wanted to go deeper, like what's your why? I believe that when we figure that out in people, we can be so much
more forgiving of even if we disagree with them on things. But everyone got a story, and we all try to make it look so perfect and glamorous, but when we're open about it, gosh, others feel I've realized this in my own personal life and professionally when I stared, people have come up to you, written me letters, have made me cry, saying, oh my gosh, I'm not alone you went through a divorce to kids like teenagers,
So I was trying to get there with him. I got some because I was genuinely curious about him as a human being, and he's been through one as Catholic, with two divorces, with the drug use, with all of these things like that's what with the abortion topic, which he didn't like me pushing, and then we saw all out from that. I mean I he wouldn't answer. I was like, even up until birth full term, and at first he get the onding and I pushed, and then you saw
the answer and he said even till birth. And I just was like shock waves, the shockwaves. And I'm like, and the only reason I went there is because he'd been and consistent in the past. I did my homework, right, I have to do on talmwork. So I'm like, okay, as a Catholic, as a woman, and as a voter, I want to know. But he said that, I'm like, wow, you just went there, and he said it's okay with full turn. So forty hours later to release a statement and saying I have now learned, I'm like
learned. So he's a smart man. He knew before and that was fascinating. I'll say this right after he came, right, I forget done with him, and I'm so grateful. Nicole Shanahan came in and so they met well going out the door, and then she came and sat down, and then when I asked her about her stance on abortion after that, she disagreed with what he had said. I was like, he just sat here and said full term. She's like, no, that's not what he meant.
I'm like, if you guys, aren't ever say that's that's the one She does not feel the same page. Yeah, yeah, So no one really picked that picked up on that, I guess, and I thought that was interesting too. But I really like her as a human being, Like she's super cool. We have very different views. So I'm great PEO that people like that who think differently are saying, Yes, my embiolic could not be
more you know, further left than me. And she said to me at the end, you know, when I met her, you guys in the lobby, she I could feel she was a little cold, and I thought, this one's going to be tough. But I respect her brilliant. I respect so much that she's done and what she's been through and at the end of my interview, I hope you have a chance to watch that. It got me choked up because she said, I have to tell you, I was nervous to come on with you because I did my homework and I didn't
know what your goal was. I didn't know what you were gonna ask me. And this was a pleasure and I'm so glad I did this, and it meant the world because she We are opposites in many ways, but what we know. I thought we had a lot in common too, And when bull can converse, you realize how much we have in common as human beings, much less women and mothers. So people put aside and are just kind.
You never know what can happen. And now I'm I feel like I could call her up and ask her for ad Buddy thought like anyway, but don't you think don't you think stage, I mean going back to the gen X thing back when we were in college, like in our college years and after maybe up until I don't know, like early two thousands. I feel
like we could do that. I feel I mean, we talk about that a lot on our show, about how liberals and conservatives could hang out and be friends, and we could be in family units together and get along. And now it's just we're so divided and it's so different now, so different.
It's it's sad. It's sad. It is because you're right, we do have more in common I think, with one another and just everyday things if you take politics out of I know it's hard to do that now, and I think that's almost impossible for people to take politics out of the equation. But if you just if you try, then it's like, Okay, look at every day things. We really do have a lot more in common than people think about. But we just did not quit, right, and
then sometimes we need to know when to quit. And and and I think be guilty of that too. We are too. Yeah, yeah, all right, So back to like what you thought, how you think RFK will sort of shake up this race? Do you have a because everybody's all over the place on that question, right. Some people are like, oh, he's going to take you know, Trump voters, he's going to take Biden voters. Where did you get any sense of that in your discussion? No, I didn't, and it was, you know, six weeks ago or
so. A lot has changed since then. You know. I watched something recently when he went down to the border, and that was something that he was very adamant on on my show. I thought, that's the very first thing he would do on day one in office. It's closed the border. And then I saw a piece where he went down there and how you can They said, the chairs right where Trump's wallt ended, and there was a big hole where people are going through. And the difference and they're on the
same page on the border. I think that's such obviously it's probably top two issue for me, and he and Trump being on the same page with that, I think could make a huge difference. And who he might choose to align with. I don't know that you want to be related at all to Joe Biden right now. And I'm not talking about someone's who leans right. I'm talking about from a human aspect, you know, And it's such a disaster. So I think at the end the thing, he would take more
votes away from Trump or I'm sorry from Biden. And I asked about the the situation with his family aligning, like specifically going on that stage in Philadelphia during you know, a rally and saying you know sorry, you know brother, we're aligning with this guy and one of his family members obviously works for Biden administration. But I thought that's gross. And if the Biden administration refuses
it still to give him secret service, this flows to the election. How could he then just put a cast it all aside and align with Biden? I don't know, right, so I can see him. I can see him helping the Trump team out. I'm waiting, like, but we need to hear something soon, right, whether it's the vice presidential candidate whatever, But like, I think they have too much in common actually for him to
not align with y Trump. Yeah, okay, and you said that, you said that the border is your number two issue, which your number one issue? Yeah? I like I fluctuate. Great gosh, journalists here asking great follow up questions. Now listen national security for me as I'm scared of death, and they tie together. I mean, those those two you can't extricate them from one another, right like? Right now you can? Yeah? Again, I just I look at the human element, not political with
our current president. And number one, it's heartbreaking, it's heartbreaking that his family, right that they I've been saying this for years because I interviewed Joe Biden a month or two after he took office, and I noticed it then on an interview like this when I was still at ESPN and in the commercial break beforehand. I actually it was before we started rolling. We had to
tape it. Of course, he trailed off. We're having a conversation about football before we started when night, and I was very aware, and I was concerned. My grandmother died of Alzheimer's. Like I'm very sensitive to that with the elderly, and I watched it. I can't I turn away because it hurts me. Even though I don't like job he's done as president. I don't like him, I don't like anything, but I I have empathy for that. And his family has allowed it. Oh yeah, yeah they
have. It's just it's disgraceful. And then yeah, why so why would and you see these world leaders they're just laughing and licking their chops. I mean, there's so many things that there. I'm surprised we haven't been hit
yet. Yeah. Yeah, So it's about protecting us and someone who actually and I know people and I'm sure you do too, who are pretty clothes have worked alongside Trump, you know, and like a security type capacity, and what they say that they witness when he's you know, in a small private group with the leaders from other countries, how he relates, how disarming he is, how much they like him and respect him, respect everything.
That is what we need. And I'm so tired of people not being able to separate their emotions and their feelings from using their brains and choosing who they vote for. It's actually really that simple. I was with some people this weekend in Indianapolis and great people, and they're like, I just can't. I mean, he's such a and he's a criminal. I'm like, you've stop talking points. Yeah, And I ask my question, name me one thing where we are better off as Americans in the last three years with him
as president, and they change this subject. Oh, just give me one that and something. It has to actually be a fact, not your opinion. Yeah. And they're willing to set and they're willing to sacrifice their kids and their grandkids for what for such severe hatred over one. To see so many people now standing up Hollywood people, musicians, Uh, it's really cool and that that takes courage when you're out there. I mean, that is
where it gives me a little hope. And you see in the black and rappers and they're yellingmen and they're coming out like enough of this, and pro about recently when he was was Trump and Detroit, I forgot where he wasn't and he was sitting with these pastors and said, yeah, I came to see us, and Biden's never coming. You're in the hood. Thank you. Yes, like it matters when you show up as parents or as politicians, you know, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Is exactly right,
sage. We're just coming up on a half an hour, so I don't want to keep you. I know you've got dental issues that you're gonna take care of, so I don't want to keep you for finally the teeth are finally okay, no more golf falls to the mouth. I love it. But thank you so much. Who do you have? Just had a curiosity? Who are some of the guests that you have coming up that that people should tune in to listen to? Well? What funny you have lar Trump? Oh? There you go. Yeah, we got one also,
and we might have edit this part. I'm not sure when this is gonna air, okay, And we don't know actually either Valin will have to let us know that we'll it will part out. But Byron Donald n Wesley Hunt a conversation that we're having in Atlanta actually and we'll fix this. But actually the night before the debate, very excited that next week and it's all about you know, there are so many more people of color who are conservatives but
are afraid to admit it. I have black friends. It's like a whisper and they don't want their family to find out, but they and my gosh, yes, it is an issue. It is a thing with people that you all know and would recognize. And so I've been asked to moderate that conversation between Baron Donald and Wesley Hunt. And I'm so honored because I know what it's like to be closeted. I know what it's like to be afraid to speak up and afraid to be yourself, and that's not what America is
supposed to be. So people like that, A Lynn Patten is going to come on, and Dave Reuben is coming on, So just people who I just want to know their stories. Listen. I've gotten a lot of nos. I've got a lot of knows from people who are on the left who won't come on and talk people that I know as well. So I would love it for anyone on the left to come and have a conversation because guess what ninety was of the time, I didn't want to talk about politics.
Yeah, care about the human element. That's what this show is for me, because once you really you know, go there and you know for what I've always wanted to do for my dream job, Like I don't want to only talk to people who I agree with, because then you're going to get a bunch of nos. And I just started and you've already pegged over here, and I'm like, well, yes, this is how I feel and vote, but it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect how I treat you.
And I actually want to know about this. I want to know your why behind it. But most importantly I want to know, like what happens in your quiet moments, what happens when something hits the fan and your family professionally, like when when the makeupsop and you're not on the TV screen this famous person or the movie screen, Like what do you do? And I think when we can focus on the human element, that other stuff goes away.
So I hope people will actually diversity of thought. That's what it's all about. I've been saying for years, before, during, and after I got canceled, diversity of thought. And it just cracks me up that the people who also preach that just as much are the ones who won't come talk to me. They're afraid to do it. Yeah, and we can get back, we can get back to the way that we used to do things. And on that note, what just and on that note, how how do
you what do you do in your spare time? What is your favor what are your favorite past times? What do you like to do when you're not on the air doing this with us and being on television? What do you like to do? What a stage? Well, I'm figuring that out because, you know, again becoming an empty nester, I'm like, what am I going to do? And my job now is so different than it's spent
my whole life. Yeah. I did pick up golfing and it's something I took my first lesson twenty two years ago when I before I had my first child, and twenty two years I haven't taken another lesson. I've got my club's updated in a nice new golf bag, and I'm finally saying yes to these tournaments and celebrity tournaments that I was always invited to but was too embarrassed
to go to because I couldn't play. Don't want to be that the girls sportscaster are supposed to be great at everything, and I walk out and lift. I was like, oh God, am I with her? Now I'm committed to golf, especially moving to Florida, trying to become a memorial cub down there maybe, which I said I'd never do, but like, I don't have that many friends yet, so I'm trying to meet people down there.
Yeah. I do exercise a lot. That's been my Dave and grace for many years, but especially divorce, pandemic were all at the same time, and then cancelation and work changes. It was all at the same time, and my exercise has been the one thing. And I'm not great or terribly consistent, but what a difference when I do do that. And I really like red wine. So that's the habit. I don't know, I love it. That's great. So how that people how can people find you
on all of the socials and how do they find your show? You guys are good at this and I always forget because there's a way to say it right, right YouTube, because it's cracked me on YouTube, the Stage Deal Show subscribe and like, right, I didn't understand the whole subscription thing,
and it's, oh my gosh, that's important. I think at some point that would be great, So subscribe, and like on YouTube, I have my show, Stage Deals Show YouTube and then also of my own personal which I'm trying to build up again just to be an idiot and talk about my with my best friend makeup bars. We talked about She's like, Okay, can I screen if we line up guys for you to date? Can I screen them? I'm like, she's like, would you the first date?
I'm like, I cannot talk about this. So we're trying to do one on that channel because again, I'm not afraid to look like an idiot. I have proven that many times. And okay, and then Apple Podcast, Spotify, wherever you find your podcast. But Instagram is my thing. They still show on Instagram, but also my personal because that's where I yes, I show the pictures of me trying not to judge my daughter in her cigar.
I love it. And if you look right now. I mean, I got hit by another golf ball and I have a bruise the skis of Africa on my left, So that's where I am just totally unfiltered, and my kids hate it, and I think they've unfollowed me so well, I'm sure you'll get a lot of new followers. Our audience, I'm sure will love you, and we really appreciate you taking the time. Definitely, thank you so much. Thank you for having me, And I knew that