At some point in her life, she may decide that she wants to take birth control and she may or may not love it, and that is her decision to make. This is toxic, that's toxic, this is unnatural. That's I'm like, And that is literally like all she talks about. And it's like, but she put so much shit in your face. There are other factors at play here. So today we are going to talk about so many things that are gonna get people's feathers ruffled. They're gonna ruffles. We're
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is inappropriate. But I she caught me for there's a lady. Yeah, here's a lady saying what's what? This is an extremely niche post. But if you're a gen X female and you were in your chains or early twenties in the night, please tell me you didn't go to Planned Parenthood and get Ortho tricyclin. You can't tell me different. We're all the same, living the same experience. Okay, so I didn't go to Planned Parenthood. I didn't do that, but I did go to no Obgyn and I was on
author Tricyclin and then I was on Yasmin, which was bomb. I loved Yasmin because listen, it took a couple tweakings to get me to the right birth control for me that was and I loved Yasmin. I stayed on that for years and it was great. And so I had a good experience with birth control. I know nowadays the messaging now is birth control bad, birth control bad, birth control evil birth control. Yeah right, it's listen. It has side effects for some people. Some people don't have a good experience
with it, which is understandable. You know, I have chronic migraine and so over since I've had chronic migraine since I was thirteen years old, before I even started my period, because I started my period late. I mean, this is way to image. This is TMI, you guys, But
I had to start my period till I was fifteen. I was a little because I was an athlete, have really low body fat, but I but anyways, I was one of those people who I just had chronic I've had migraine since I was really really young, and so finding like the right preventatives is one of those things that you have to tweak. I have tried every preventative known to man, and now I have like what I think is probably a good of preventatives to help me from like throwing up, you know,
and dying like every single month from chronic migraine. And even went off the pill and that didn't help me. But I will but I will say that the whole reason I'm saying this is because you have to kind of find the right treatment for you, And I think that that applies to birth control as well. I think sometimes if you want to take a birth control pill, you have to find like the right one for you. And sometimes women will get on one and then it won't work for them. They're like, birth
control is like the worst thing ever. I had a horrible experience. Okay, well maybe you're just on the wrong one. You know, that could for some people. That could just be on the wrong one, or it could just be horrible for that individual person. But some of us did okay
on it. Yeah. So here's the deal is that there's all kinds of young conservative influencers out there right now who this has become a huge topic for because there's been a number of studies that they have latched onto that show that and they're not necessarily new studies, although some of them are, but that show that some birth cont oral contraceptives cause all these problems, have all these risks, and they were never told about them, and doctors just hand them
out like candy, which is actually true. And especially if you go to planned parenthood, they do not give a shit about educating you. They just want your business. They just want to give you all the pills and go, and they don't. They'll tell you about risks, they don't give you. They don't even tell you necessarily that there's a lot of different options of different oral contraceptives. Plant parents telling they're telling people that virgins aren't virgins anymore.
I mean, plant parenthood are the worst. Yeah, They're absolute worst, right, Yeah, And so it's odd to see it's odd to see this this sort of rise in the number of conservative influencer girls who and women who are young women, young women who are really talking down about birth control oral contraceptives, which have been studied for years. And it is true that doctors aren't particularly good at sharing the information, but that's not to say the
information hasn't been out there. And so now that they're all like, oh my god, this is it causes strokes and cancers and heart disease and all of these things that it causes. This is the things that they also prevent are are positive and these are decisions that have to be weighed by every single individual. So it's a weird attack on oral contraception that's kind of seemed to come out of nowhere. Yeah, And it's and it's like spreading like a
kudzoo in conservative circles. It's a little bit it's it's a little concerning because you know, again I think it's an individual decision and there are some benefits to it. I mean, because you know, some people will say, Okay, it can cause cancer, but it also can prevent some cancers. So you have to sort of way like, there's the whole it can cause breast cancer thing. Okay, but it could also keep you from getting ovarian and and a matrial cancer. So there's you have to these are the things
that doctors need to be teaching young women. And then you have to way, you know what works for you. Like for me, I loved being on the pill when I was on Yet I loved it because it made my my periods a little bit more manageable and tolerable. It wasn't like so painful. And then on top of that, I was able to schedule things around it. Yeah, they're predictive. Loved it. They were predictable, right, I mean I planned my wedding around my period and my honey. I
mean things like that. I was just I love that I love and I am a very planning kind of person, and so it appealed. I loved being able to do that on the pill. And then also you know, for me, like just hormones in general are a big point of contention, like from my body because and now I have severe you know, osteoporosis, osteopenia, and so like if you don't have estrogen in check, that is
a huge concern. And you know, as we can and we can get to this in a second, but when we get to the point where you know, we're older women, we can talk about HRT, which is something that we probably need to discuss. But I look at some of these girls, these young girls, and I'm like, okay, there's I just I don't understand the whole I don't want to take this birth control because it's toxic
or it's you know, it's unnatural, it causes all these issues. But then you know, on their TikTok feed or their Instagram feeds, like in the same breath, they'll do a post on how they they're shoving botulism in their faces, you know, or they're popping all the antidepressants, right, and that's considered self care to them. Yeah, But yet they'll be out there preaching about you know, how horrible birth control is. And I'm like,
wait, what, what's the disconnect here? I don't understand because that I feel like, you know a lot of these things, there's just we don't know the ramification do we know? Do you know the ramifications of shoving you know, a toxin in your in your head? Do you and preaching that that is somehow self care because there's a little bit of hypocrisy there.
Oh, there's a lot of hypocrisy. And it just seems like such an out of the blue attack by conservative influencers out there who are discouraging other young women from choosing oral contraceptives, even though they may be the right choice for many many women. They were the right choice for me, they were the right choice for you, and they were not something that caused us any long
term harm. And perhaps that's not always true. I mean, I'm sure there are people who suffer the side effects that are listed in the giant killer that comes in with every right pill pack, and that's unfortunate. But that is true of freaking tailanol. That's true of every single drug. And so it just seems almost like an unfair attack on all contraceptions which have prevented lots and lots and lots of unwanted pregnancies and possibly cancer in many, many women.
So it's odd to me, especially because now we're hearing about some really far out there studies. Mikhayela Peterson, Jordan Peterson's daughter who has a podcast. She was talking to a doctor about I guess a fairly recent study about how your attraction to the opposite sex changes depending on whether or not you're on oral contraception. This is bizarre. Check this out. It's true that the birth control pill can change your perception of who you're attracted to for a woman,
Yeah, you know, if that is a possibility. Researchers have been finding that the men were chosen by women as partners that were on horbital birth control, they have less masculine faces relative to the men who were chosen by naturally cycling women, which is really mind blowing when you think about it.
There are other factors at play here. I think that it's I think it's very possible because there have been there have also been studies that men's to stosterone is dropping in the world, and that I feel like there's got to be some sort of a we got to talk about that too, right, when you're talking in relation to this one study that they did plus plus don't you
think that just men overall are in the world are becoming less masculine. I mean, and that's a whole other problem caused by the like the emasculation of men. I mean, there's just so many lefty feminist weirdos, right, There's just less Chris Hemsworth's in the world, you know, and we need more of those. We need way more those, lot more. You have more Jason Momoa's out there, you know. This is the thing. I
think. I feel like there's just less and less of those, and I think that's like a whole other like, that's just a whole other discussion that has nothing to do with the way that we even perceive them or look at them. It's them, yeah, you know what I mean. It's not even a percesion thing. It's a them thing. There was guy I was
telling you about this guy this and this messaging is getting widespread. So I was a guy who's TikTok I saw who was so freaked out by that particular study that he was like extrapolating out to possibilities in the future where he was saying, well, that's horrible, because what if I, you know, fall in love and get married to a woman who's on birth control and she loves me and she's super into me, and then we decide to have a
family and she gets off birth of control and somehow she's all of a sudden no longer attracted to me because her birth control was effing with her mind. And I'm like this, dude, you're this is a this is a new fear unlocked that needs to be locked back up in the box. It's crazy. It does need to be locked back up in a box because people change in marriage. People change. I mean, I don't look like I did
when I married my husband, you know what, sixteen years ago. I'm not the same person visually, I'm I'm older now, he's older, he's bold. He wasn't bald when I married him. It's like people age, and that's okay. I hope to God that you don't marry the person that you marry just because of the way that they look, but for all sorts of reasons and because of a holistic view of that person. So that's a whole other conversation too, like what are we doing that's weird. You know,
I love my husband for all sorts of reasons. I'm physically attracted to him, but that's not the only reason that I married him is because of and when I look at him now, I look, I see the person that I married. You see what I'm saying, It's like I So that doesn't that argument doesn't make any sense to me. I don't understand that well.
And hormones are a crazy thing. And so yeah, granted, when you go on the pill, you are introducing hormones into your body that are not necessarily your body's making them on their own, and in some with some women, these birth control pills can absolutely solve all kinds of issues, like
they did. My sister was also to Jasmine forever. It still takes it yasmin as she and she continues to take it even you know, she's on the way to her fifties, because without it, she feels insane and she has terrible skin, and like, she goes through all these issues when she's not on it. So for every person who has problems with it, there's another person who experiences extraordinary benefits from it, which is why I thought it
was so good. There was a doctor too, that producer Vallan had found this doctor that apparently she's also seen all of these videos of everybody freaking out about oral contraception, and she put out a video to tell people, here's definitively what the wrong birth control for you is. And I thought this was absolutely perfect. I'm bet obdu Ann, and I'm going to tell you the worst form of birth Get ready to take notes, because you can't miss us.
The number one birth control is the one that doesn't work for you. So while in IUD maybe highly effective, you don't want it or you don't like it. That's not good. Birth Control pills work really well if you take it perfectly, but if you can't remember how to take it billed every day, that's not going to work for you. The best form of birth control is the one that you want, that works for your lifestyle, and that you can access if you have questions about different kinds of birth control and
to bedside or have work for more. Wait, so women can actually figure out what works best for them individually. Oh my god, what a concept. What a concept? I know, that's crazy. Like our oldest daughter, she can't take birth control because she has blood clotting issues and so it doesn't work for her now, my fourteen year old. At some point in her life, she may decide that she wants to take birth control and she may or may not love it, and that is her decision to make.
You know, I feel like this is the thing. It's an individual thing. But to have people telling you, my god, it's evil if you shouldn't take it. It's kind of like what I said with the migraine preventatives. It is an individual thing where you have to figure out it's I think a lot of this, maybe not a lot, but some of it may
stem from the fact that we went through the whole COVID thing. And maybe some people in this generation are so freaked out by pharma right for sure, which is totally understandable, right, but you know, I worked in pharma for like twenty years, and I get it, you know, because I didn't I didn't take the vaccine. I don't want to. And I totally
understand that people have trepidation with pharma as a whole. But you also have to think critically here, you know, because pharma is not I understand that people are like, they're evil, they're awful, they're terrible. But then they've also done some really good things. Like I'm sure these same people, these same women who would be like, oh my god, birth control is terrible, will take an antibiotic when they have, you know, an infection.
And there are certain there are certain and I you know, I take migraine preventative, which is literally saved. I would not be doing this podcast if I wasn't on migraine preventatives. You know, I would be debilitated, right, So, I mean there are certain things where there are certain drugs that have been amazing. I mean, the pharma industry needs to be applauded for some of the things that they have done. They can't be completely and
totally demonied for everything. And so I get a little bit squirrely when people are like they're just evil, They're totally evil. It's like, Okay, well, have you ever taken a tile and all because that the pharma industry gave you that tile in all? Has your kid ever had an infection where they need an antibotic? Well, the farmer industry did that, and it was because of years of R and D. And years of R and D
went into making the birth control pill too. Yeah, and it came you know, came out in nineteen sixty and there's been studies and improvements to the pill since then, and so there's pills now. I don't even know some of the birth control that's available now. Obviously I do not need that, right I don't either. I don't either, which we probably should talk about
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slash shs. So, you know, speaking of like wrinkle cream and getting older, I want to look back in about twenty years and see what these same girls these young women have to say about HRT or replacement therapy because they can't take HRT. If they're saying that they don't believe in birth control and not be they can't. They'll be hypocrites, you see what I'm saying. And it's a lot of these listen. I twenty thirties and forties were a
piece of cake compared to menopause piece. It's true cake. Menopause is a bitch. It's a bitch, ladies. And seriously, like, I want to see how they how they handle it. And I'm well, we're going to be dead by them, so right, we'll probably be dead by the time that they all. It's so true. And weirdly enough, I liked birth control when I was younger, but I've tried two different kinds of HRT
because menopause symptoms are nothing like you've ever experienced before as a woman. And so buckle up, young ladies, if you if you're not, buckle up. And so I've tried two different kinds and I'm not a fan. I don't like HRT. I've tried the pellets. I don't like them, and in fact, it it did some things to my body that I didn't like, and then i've I'm dangerous things to your body. It did dangerously. My body industry is so oddly a little weirdly whack right exactly, And there's
and I don't think that there's yeah, there's not enough regulation there. And then now I'm doing like a little patch, like a little estra how do you pronounce it? Estra? Die all patch and a little bit of progesterone just to kind of because and a lot of it has to do for me. It's about my bones, keeping my bones healthy, and that helps a little if I have a little boost because I had zero estrogene my bi I just wanted a little bit of a boost, and so I thought, okay,
well this will help. I don't like it. I'm not a fan, so I probably will just end up doing nothing, which is what the younger girls are saying you should totally do. But I would never say to somebody my age, don't do HRT because it really helps women our age. Some women love the pellets. Some women love HRT. Some women, I mean they swear by it. They just feel like an old lady and they feel old before their time, and that everything starts melting, you know,
what I mean. And then you get the hot flashes on top of it. Oh my god, you feel like you can't sleep. You are literally sweating your ass off, like four times a night. It's and it's ten years of it, you guys. It's like, so I want to see how these these young girls feel when they're older and they're faced with the decision of having to do or not having to do HRT because it is literally the same thing as birth control. It's it's putting, and it's also went through
a big scare. There was like this whole study that was done and then it's been picked apart since then, but it absolutely My mom was part of this group. So when my mom was going through metopause, it was immediate, like doctors didn't even think twice. They were just like, here you go. You're on estrogen. Now, hot flashes are going to go away. And she was like, this is a miracle. She felt amazing.
She was on it for years, and then all of a sudden, the study came out and scared everybody to death and said, oh my god, you're gonna get all the cancers. Everything's horrible. Get off of it. Immediately she got off it. She felt awful. And then it's now it's shown that that study had all kinds of flaws in it that for most women it's completely safe to be on HRT. Now for me, I loved being on it too, but I can't be because I'm in a risk group.
That it makes it not make sense because I had a stroke and so mine was caused by a hole in my heart. But if I'm susceptible to clouding already, it's not for me and I can't take it. And it's fine. So but goes back to our original point, which is you have to make an individual decision and way the risks and benefits for your own body. And so all of these scary oh my god, the world is ending about
birth control. All of these conservative influencers who are doing that to women right now are doing them a huge disservice because the scaring women and thinking, well, this person I trust online says this, So now I'm not going to make that personal decision, right And that's the problem is that they're influential, and that's yeah, there's a responsibility there right now. Your mother was a
scientist. My mom was not a scientist. She was my mom, and she was an education and she actually ended up she said, I don't want to take anything when I go into menopause. She did nothing. She did exactly like what some of these younger girls are doing. She's like, I don't want anything synthetic in my body. She's one of those. I mean she she mom, if you're listening, she should have just been a hippie,
you know, she's one of those. And so she's like, I want nothing, and she was fine, right, But it's one of those things. So it's like they're And the reason I say that is because again, it's an individual choice thing. So your mom loved it. My mom was fine without things. And then for me, I'm like, I kind of want to try it just to see, and I'm probably gonna do nothing. You know, I'm probably gonna because I've tried a couple things and I
don't like it. Because again, it is not a one size fits all thing. Hormones and hormone replacement therapy and birth control and all the things that we're talking about is not a one size fits all. And I think a lot of these influencers are trying to make it a one size fits all, and that is our point is that it's not. It is very very individual and specific to your body and your body chemistry and how you metabolize things,
and the pharmacokinetics of a drug and how your body metabolized everything. There's so much that goes into and to just pharmaceuticals in general, and I think people are simplifying this in a way that it doesn't need to be and that it
shouldn't be simplified. Yeah, and then talking about risks being you have this increased risk of this and that and this and that, But then when you actually look at the numbers, the risk is so minuscule, depending like you might be a woman who's suffering a certain symptom that the pill can actually help a lot, and so the risk is worth it, right, because the symptom that you're facing is so awful that you would rather face a tiny risk
of maybe getting you know, a higher chance of having some sort of illness. But again, it's so individual, and that's why it's it is concerning to see so many people jumping on this bandwagon and demonizing birth control or oral contraception when that has been around for a really long time and has worked really, really well without negative consequences. For a ton of women. Can we
just and so what's best for each person? And real quick because I know we're wrapping up, but real quick, something that we haven't touched on, which I'm just gonna say it out loud. I would I would much rather a woman be on birth control if she can tolerate it and she's okay with it and she likes it, then to have an abortion. As a pro life person, I would much rather see a woman be on synthetic birth control than to down the road like take a life. You know what I mean?
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