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Bears wide receiver Javon Wims and New York Giants play-by-play Bob Papa join hosts Jeff Joniak and Tom Thayer

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The following is a presentation of the Chicago Bears Network and Chicago Bears dot Com. Download the Chicago Bears official mobile app for up to the minute Bears content every day and now welcome to Bears All Access. Your all access passing to Chicago Bears football. Bears All Access is brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by Athletical Physical Therapy and CDW Welcome in, Everybody and brought to you by IGS Energy. Another edition up Bears All Access

with Tom Fair. I'm Jeff Joniac. Good to have you alongside our producer tonight, Julio Hossas, and we've got Jordan tread Up and Dan Burrelly also overseeing the operation. Tom Fare, Good evening Buddy. Over the next hour, we're gonna break down Sunday's home opener against the Giants. Special guests lined up including Bob Popa, the Voice of the Giants, coming

up at six ten six thirty. Got a couple of segments with Juice Javon Wims with a touchdown and it's only catching the day on Sunday and the win over Detroit that will be at the b of the hour, and then we're gonna hear a little Jimmy Graham tom an interview I did with him in advance of Bears Game Day Live. They'll hear it on Fox on Sunday morning at ten thirty with You and I and Luke Canellis. First of all, health check to Robert Quinn Calil Mac

today both limited ankle knee, respectively. But that's two days in a row at least on the field getting some work in for Robert Quinn. Does that give you optimism for Sunday against the Giants? Well, and you kind of look at the injury port from last week. Khalil Mack was on the injury port as well with some type of ankle issue, but he came out and played every snap that they needed of him. But I'm not sure

about Robert Quinn. I have high hopes for him because I know that he's a difference maker to this defense. He can provide the un fat I think teams without knowing what he was going to provide. We're preparing for a defense that included him. So now it's a mingo's gotta come up and play as hard, and I think the rest of the supporting cast to Khalil Mack has to play equally as hard heard from the coordinators as we do each and every Thursday. Check gotill pretty direct

about what happened in the run defense. It was a big day for Adrian Peterson. The Bears did get to win. They made the play to win the game, but given out the Lions ran it. Tom He's fully expecting the Giants and Sequon Barkley to try to do the same. It's copycat league. We're gonna see the same thing. We got a great running back coming town, and after last week, you know they're going to try to run the ball right at us, whether it's between the tackles, get them

on the edge, throwing the ball. In the pass game, screens this, that and the other. So we've got our hands full. Yes, they do in both run and pass because Barkley is equally is explosive in the passing game, and as he showed that on Monday night against the Steelers. But when you watch that tape of that Steeler game, what is it the Steelers were doing. They got a great defense. They are as good as any defense in

the league, really aggressive front. But fifteen carries and six yards with a little long of seven, you gotta go back to ninety eight with a back fifteen carries having only that many yards. That was Kareem Abdul Jabbar for the Medolphins against I believe the Saints or Broncos can't remember. They almost made each play one dimensional. They didn't give Barkley an escape route. And that's the unique thing about him. He is so creative on his feet that if someone

over pursues a play, he'll take advantage of that. What Pittsburgh did as they played very discipline within their lanes, and so they never gave a big void for him to capitalize on. And you know Chuck McGonnell today, when he was talking in front of media, he never singled out one element of his defense. He talked about a group effort. And I think that was precise because everybody had a hand in allowing Adrian Peterson to gain some

big yards. Whether it should have been better effort on the first level, a couple of issues where he got to the second level with a full head of steam, and he's a difficult guy to bring down. So now there's a body of work that every single team in the NFL can watch, pay attention to, and prepare for. And so I think the Bears have to upgrade their pressure on the line of scrimm. But that's the case

each and every week. What did you see, because there were not a lot of mistackles by the Bears, was it just simply the blocking they got These guys they were blocked, Yeah, you know, they were blocked, and sometimes just because of the speed of the game that you're trying to get used to after about fifteen days of practice that it's completely different monster than anything you faced

in practice. Now, if you're gonna disengage from a block in nine on seven period in practice, it's completely different than disengaging in a live block. It's different than getting away from bodies that are diving at your knees and trying to trying to have cut blocks to make you very insecure. So again, it's it's it's definitely a drastic improvement that I think that you're going to see these

teams go through. We're not talking about just trying to get through the preseason healthy and then into the regular season. It's drastic improvement from week one. And it was Bill Lazar that said high school coaches improved week to week. College coaches improved from one half to the next and professional coaches improved each series, and so I think that's

the case going forward. Even on defense. I know that there were a lot of questions about Danny Trevathan's performance, and certainly at the end of the game, that could have went very differently with the Georgia rookie if he didn't drop that pass on his assignment covering a back out of the backfield. But Chuck was very as you pointed out, he would not go down that road because it was a complete defensive effort that led to a four hundred plus yard day for the Detroit Lion. It was,

but you know, that play specifically was just reaction. When you look at the route of the running back. He kind of looked like he was going to undercut the route at the first down marker. But as soon as you thought he was gonna undercut, he took it off

field of the pylon. And you know, I really think that this kid from Detroit's being treated unfairly for anybody to think that that was an easy play to make while you're backing into the end zone with bodies flashing in front of you, and then you have a high velocity pass from Matthew Stafford. It wasn't just a four gone conclusion that he was going to catch it. It was an unfortunate drop by the young kid, and the Bears benefited because of it. As I always say, I'm

a Bears fan. Meet me, I'm one hundred percent. I agree, one hundred percent, I'm a Bears fan. But when you look at Danny Trevathan specifically, you know he's gonna understand how the route's gonna be run, how he has to move his feet. I guarantee you every single route run by a backer tight end in the Giants game, Danny Trevathan has studied at fivefold. Tom, Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Ready, Happy one hundred birthday. Pretty neat one hundred years start

off with that. I think it's it's crazy to think of how you know where we're at as an organization and be a special part of that is neat. You know here with with coach Hollis and what he's done here, it's a special pretty neat. Yeah it is. Jen. It's the hundredth birthday and the anniversary of the National Football eag of which the Bears are are prominent, and the first and tonight the Bears and excuse me, Browns and

Bengals with play in Cleveland to celebrate that. From an NFL perspective, in the we even had the one hundred celebration a summer ago. But from what I understand, any player who played a snap in the National Football he's gonna get some sort of gift from the National Football League, down or Hunter. So check your mail, Tom, Hey. I look forward to it, and I'm proud to have been a part of it. I was born here in nineteen sixty one, and I ben a Bears fan in my

whole life. So it's a it's a long relationship that I've had with the Bears and it will continue on forever. Right, it takes on special significance when you talk about George Hollis and the birth of the Chicago Bears and the birth of the National Football League. On this day. Coming up next, we're gonna be joined by the play by play voice of the New York Giants, Bob Poppa here

on Bears All Access. It brought to you by IGS Energy with Tom Theyre I'm Jeff Joniac Back in a minute on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score, Welcome back to Bears All Access brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at igs dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world. With Tom Theyre Jeff, You're at Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score this week's edition of Bears All Access. Bears and Giants open up the home slate at Soldier Field.

No fans, of course, but Tamid I will be there and we're welcomed by one of the great play by play voices in the National Football League. Is this your twenty sixth anniversary season? Voice of the Giants, Pop Pop, kind enough to take some time out tonight with us from New York because this twenty six Yeah, this is is twenty six full time. Been with the team since eighty eight. That's an investment, right there, my brother, That's an investment. But boy, no year is gonna be like

this one. Odd You know, when Darius Slayton scored on a deep post against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Monday night, you're expecting to hear these tremendous roars and was dead silent, even when the Steelers always travel well, and you know they would have been a big bunch of Steeler fans in the building. Teams came running out and it felt like you were watching a scrimmage and you are not coming to Chicago? Is that correct? And how how are

you prepared for that? As we all discuss it amongst each other, so to speak, the other thirty play by play guys, I'm sure you've talked to some and maybe you've done this before, just not football. Yeah, I mean, I got I had to cancel my reservation to Gibson's. So that's a bummer. H Yeah, this is this is weird man not coming to the Windy City, perfect time of a year to be there. It's just a bummer because you miss so much. Right, You can't go on

the field before the game. You can't catch up with people that you know that are coaches on other teams and players that are on other teams. You get that last little bit of information on the opponent, and none of that exists now. I mean, we're gonna be calling it from the Giants practice facility, We're gonna get a feed from the network, and then we're gonna get another feed to help the analysts out a little bit. But

it's really not the way to go. I've done this before on many occasions for Olympic style sports, whether it was Bob sled, cross country skiing, biathlon, rowing, some of these other sports, water polo, but it's it's not conducive for football, Hey, Bob. During the course of my career playing for Mike Dicka, he did the one time start practice over because we weren't carrying enough enthusiasm into it. And I saw Joe Judge did it a couple weeks

ago in training camp. Can you give us a little introduction to Joe Judge that will not a lot of us know a lot about. Yeah. I mean, well, first of all, he's young. He's thirty eight, so he gets it so to speak at air quotes there. But he comes from an old school. I mean, look at his petit, look at where he comes from. He learned under Belichick, and prior to that, he learned under Nick Saban, and he's got a way of doing things. And it really feels like in giants Land if you were turned to

the early days of Coughlin. It's got that feel of Parcels. It's just a certain style he brings. I mean, look, when guys make mistakes, he makes him run laps during training camp, and he makes the position coaches of that group run with him because he says that you didn't teach them well enough if they're making these mistakes and you know, restarting practice. Look, that's an old trick. You know a lot of guys have used it, and he

just wanted to get their attention. And even though they lost the other night, talking to fans and more importantly talking to people that are analysts that I respect around the NFL, they see a noticeable difference in the Giant So just they're better coach. They had a much better plan going into the game. I thought Jason Garrett called a great team. Their defensive coordinator Patrick Graham, had a good, solid plan to go against the Pittsburgh team. They were

just punching up in class. Pittsburgh's is better than them, and sometimes you got to resolve yourself to that. But what I expect to see from the Giants this year is for them to win games in their weight class. Last year, Pat Shermer, other than beating the Red Washington the football Washington team twice, you know, they didn't pick anybody off, and they lost too many games against the same level kind of opponent. Just think of a game last year in Chicago, and that was a winnable game.

It's not like one team was that much better than the other. The Giants found a way to lose every one of those games, the Bears game, the Jets game, the Cardinals game. This coaching staff will win a couple of those. When you look at the asset in which Sequon Barkley is going forward, is that the fact that the offensive lion has to play better or is there something else that needs to be done within the offense that opens up more opportunities for sa Quon. So I'm

gonna make two points. Tom I was talking to Phil Sims yesterday and he had just finished watching the Giants. You know, coaches take studying them for inside the NFL and CBS, and he actually thought that the offensive line played better than the outside observer thinks. In fact, he was floored by how well the rookie left tackle Andrew Thomas played. Really want to? I mean, look, they had some breakdown that Nick Gates was starting his first game

effort center. They had some communication issues. The bigger problem that they have with their run game right now is the tight ends. The tight ends were a lot of no hitters. A lot of note show plays. You know you're going three tight ends, you know you're you're out numbering them, you're out flanking them, and if you choose to not block anybody, well that's on you. So I think some of their running game issues are tied more

into the tight ends sometimes than they get. You know, the offensive line gets all the blame, but the tight ends have to do a much better job. Evan Ingram was awful the other night, and he can't be awful for them to be good. Yeah, And I've been waiting to see exactly where he'd wind up because you got a tight end and what two forty runs? A forty

two great great speed explosion. That's a dangerous weapon in that mix we're talking about popa voice of the New York Giants with Tom Fair Jeff Joniak here on bears Alt Access, brought to you by GS Energy in Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score. So you take his explosion, say Quin's dual threat ability in a Daniel Jones second year improvement where he really stood in the pocket in that game against the Steelers, took the rush and still

managed to fire that ball down the field. If not for that nineteen play drive inning in an interception, you know, who knows what the outcome might have been. Where is his bounce coming from? What is his next step for Daniel Well, you know again, talking to Phil yesterday, you know, and I respect his opinion. He was over the moon about watching Daniel Jones against that Steelers defense and what he was able to do moving in the pocket, the

ball placement, the accuracy, the arm strength. He's like, you know, these are things a lot of us didn't see of him coming out of college, but we see it right now. It's pretty awesome. Look, I think Daniel Jones has a tremendous upside. Yeah, he made a really dumb play the other night. We're not kidding anybody with that. But they got to get this run game going. And you know, I think and Tom maybe you could comment on this. You know, sa Quan had his best season two years ago.

And I don't think you can discount having Eli Manning at quarterback two years ago because Eli was a master of run protection, run fit, calling out protections and changing runs, changing plays at the line. Because the play could come in and the defense could have your out playing, Eli picked it up right away and would change direction of the run or change the protection, change the blocking scheme.

And Daniel Jones is still learning on the job, and I think Barkley's feeling in some of the residual effects to that. Well, you know, one of the think I as a nice challenge because Matt Nagy said that he wants Mitchell Trobisky to master coverages. And that's the similarity that into young quarterback goes through David Cutcliffe, his college coaches. You know, he's an architect of great quarterbacks in the NFL.

And I just think that's some of the growing pains that these young guys go through because they have such an opportunity to manipulate what type of talent they have on the field. Yeah, and I think we're seeing the maturation of Jones that way. You know, for the most part, you know, you saw him much more secure with the ball. He's been coached really well. Remember he had Eli in his ear all the last year too, in a good way,

not a bad way. And you know that was you know, he was the starting quarterback for twelve games, but he had a two time Super Bowl MVP helping him out every step of the way. Because remember Eli's known Daniel Jones since he was a kid. Jones went to the Manning family passing camp, so they had a relationship, so there was nothing contentuous, and I think, I think it's just baptismal by fire. It was his thirteenth start. I mean, he's he's done some things that you know, he did

something last year that key quarterbacks have ever done. You know, have you know, multiple games of three hundred more yards passing and four or more touchdowns with no interceptions, And he's thrown a touchdown in thirteen straight games that he started. Only three other guys have done that to start their career since nineteen seventy, so there's a lot there. I mean, look, the Giants, in my opinion, are one more draft and one more year of free agency away from being a

real force in the NFC. They're not there yet. Pop Papa, our guest here at Bears All Access, final question before you let you go, because you mentioned the lineage of Judge and where he's been touched by, who he's been touched by, what the organization has seen from the Parcels era. His influence of Belichick is probably no shock to people. I just saw this today that the Giants have the most three hundred plus pound players in the league at

fifteen here in twenty twenty. Because Belichick likes big guys. Barcells says, the big man's game. Is that how Joe thinks it is that fit the franchises? You know, much like you know, you know the Bears. It's it's a defensive city. It's a defensive town. It's a team of great running backs in middle linebackers. Is this a better fit for the Giants personality and ownership? Yeah? And you know,

let's not forget you. Dave Gettlman was the director of Pro Personnel for the Giants starting in nineteen ninety nine, and he helped with free agency. His decisions on free agency or recommendations got that two thousand Giants team to the Super Bowl. And then he was the director of pro personnel, you know, in building that oh seven team and that two eleven team, along with Jerry Rees. And it goes back to the late grade George Young, who was the longtime general manager of the Giants, And it

goes back to the same adage. You know, the game, no matter how much window dressing it's changed you, no matter how many new teams have come in and fast break this fast break that if you can't win at the point of attack, you can't win, and that means controlling the offensive and defensive line. So big is definitely the order of the day. Bob Bush, we could see yeah here in Chicago, but I'll have to pick you

up on the rebound. Buddy, good luck at your broadcast, Have fun and thanks for taking the time you got guys. Stay safe. Bob Pop a voice of the New York Giants here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The score. When we come back, we'll hear a little Jimmy Graham as the Bears. You're ready to meet the Giants and coming up at the bottom of the hour, Javon Wims will join the program for a couple of segments were brought to you by IGS Energy here on Chicago Sports

Radio six seventy to Score. This segment of Bears All Access is brought to you by CDW. People who get it learn more at CDW dot com. Jeff Jonny Act Tom There good insight. Tom from Bob Pop up in there a long time so he knows where as Matt Naggie likes you know, he knows where all the bones are barried. Yeah, he dies. He's been a part of that organization for a long time. Yeah. And then Matt Naggie with very good things to say about Joe Judge and said that they're playing fast, so the Bears have

to play fast Sunday. Oh yeah, I mean you could see his attitude is is involved in this team. He wants them to play fast, wants them play hard. But it's good all how, It's all gonna be about how they rebound in the week two. Okay, So Jimmy Graham, the Bears tight end, was kind enough to sit down with me in advance of Bears Game Day Live that we will be airing on Fox at ten thirty live

from Soldier Field. This is a snippet of that interview and produced by the Bears, and it should be an interesting, uh to listen because he's this guy's got a lot to him, a lot of background, a lot of history, and a lot of great insight order to be here and to be in the city. Um, I've just spend my off days um in this city over the last two years, so I'm very familiar and um, you know, I'm just I'm just proud to be a bear and looking forward to know the opportunity to make a run.

And let's be clear for those may not know about your history. You are a pilot and you have a love of airplanes. What drew you to Chicago on those days? Off the beautiful city on the water, I mean flying along Lake Michigan and I'd land down there a midway and and you know I was off into the city. Uh, get a nice bite to eat. So Jimmy, tell me about playing catch with Bernie Kosar and what that moment

meant to you in your life. You've definitely done your homework. Um, you know Bernie Kozar, I guess he was the beginning of kind of this this road, you know, through my connections at the U. Really just sat down and had a conversation with me with maybe I think it was about an hour just playing catch and just talking. Literally, you know, he greased up the arm and uh, you know, got warm and we just kind of sat there and talked, and you know, he shared his experiences in life, I

mean not only football but life. You know, the things he had been through as a player and things he had experienced, and you know what he wished he could do differently and what he wished that he would have maybe enjoyed more. And then after about an hour, you know, he told me, he said, hey, you could be a playmaker in the NFL. And uh, you know, obviously I thought he was crazy. You know, he had seen me play basketball, and I was beyond aggressive on the court.

You know, I definitely had probably more fouls than anything else than any other stat line there was, you know, I mean, I was aggressive kid who lifted on game day, you know, so you know that was kind of my mentality and Bernie saw that and and you know he kind of whispered those in my ear. And I mean everything's history since them. In one year at Miami playing football, you get drafted by the Saints and Ryan Pace was there obviously in Sean Payton, and in the very next

year you become a monster on the field. It's it's a rare story. Yes, basketball players make the transition, but why do you think it was such an instant success for you? And you just kept building and building and building to be one of the best tight ends in NFL history, and you will be in the conversation for the Hall of Fame. I think not only the belief that you know, my quarterback hade me on the coaches that um that were coaching me. You know, they believed

and told me that I was going to be great. Um, you know. And and you know, for a kid, you know, who had been through a lot in his life. UM, sometimes that's all it takes, you know, is people believing in you. And so you know, I took that, and I took the fire that I have in my heart. And you know, I've given everything to this game, at every opportunity to be as good as I can possibly be, you know, to to not let this opportunity pass me by. You know, I've been doing that for eleven years now.

I'm going to continue to do that until the moment I leave this game. I take it that serious. I mean I really do. Um. I play with everything that I have. You know. The only thing I'm missing is some big Shanny jewelry. So that's that's my main focus, and I think that's that's the only thing that I need to do left. That's Jimmy Graham again more on the Bears Game Day Live show on Fox at ten

thirty Sunday morning. He also hears some in Joni x Journal on our broadcast on w BBM during the pregame show, our number two Tom it is it is somewhat a remarkable story that I love the Bernie Koshar aspect of it because he knew friends at his watched him play basketball. I said, they just want to talk to him. He starts throwing the ball around, says, you have the best hands I've ever seen, and talked to him into playing football for one year at Miami and then two years

later he's an a pro. Yeah, but you're not going to recommend football to every basketball player that you meet along the way, because you see some guys that are skinny as a rail. When you look at Jimmy Graham, even at this stage of his career, you can see that he is dedicated to the weight room. He is dedicated to conditioning. If you didn't know his age, you wouldn't know his age by his appearance. So Jimmy Graham

has done a lot to build his own career. He's also the guy that I think is his arrow will be trending up within these next couple of weeks. When you look at the performance last week, there was some mistime jumps by Jimmy Graham. So I think the better that Mitchell Chubisky gets to know Jimmy Graham and vice versa. I think he is a weapon that you can dedicate size mismatches too, and throw him the ball as often as you need to. Yeah, seven targets, three catches in

the opener. He had that touchdown though, and that's a big one. Not a gimmy, But for him in his career, what's he I should could have had to the one. Yeah, his knee hit down. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, though, you know, in the career of a player like this, what he was known for is his red zone dominance.

I mean you've heard players on his own team that have faced him, you know, now, sixty one red zone touchdown catches in his career, so quite the accomplishment that that is a terrific And because of his size and his basketball ability, and he is also long, his long arms, he's a leaper. All that in adds up to a great weapon inside the red zone. You know, if you look at every safety and outside linebacker in the entirety of the NFL, you're not going to find any six

seven cover guys. So when you talk about Jimmy Graham and his frame and his reach and everything. He's just a target that if he gets in a favorable position, quarterbacks won't shy away from him. That's Tom Fair. I'm Jeff Jonia Coming up shortly. Javon Wims, the Bears veteran wide receiver who joined the program twenty one games in his career, gets a touchdown in the opener to Hell knockout the Detroit Lions. Some of the things will also be hearing tonight. We'll hear from Bill Laser about the

run game and just how that looked. There's a lot of conversation about that. Tommy and Tarik Cohen had some really good things to say today about the run game success and how it's boosting overall the offense is confidence. I feel like it builds confidence within you know, the offense, the play calling and also you know the individual groups

like the old line and the running backs. Just having those you know, those sixteen yard runs, ten plus yard runs and almost having them like a six yard average in the rinching game, you know, it makes the play caller comfortable and calling anything, calling a run on first sick and or third down, and it just gives us, give us the ability to you know, be mysterious and the play calling and not be one to mission him. Yeah, I agree. You gotta be mysterious, you gotta be deceptive.

And then when these teams start jumping to stop the run game, it's gonna give Mitch some over the top opportunities, you know, on first down. Mitch was a big benefactor of that as well, because they gained over five yards on first down of the run game. He had two incompletions one hundred and something yards, one hundred fifty eight quarterback rating on first down throwing the ball. Now, they got to fix third down and take advantage of those

key situations, those clutch moments. Clean that up. There were two of eleven. Oh yeah, you know. I mean it's a point of ephasis point of emphasis going into the game was making sure they had a solid run game to help the rest of the performance. So now week two, what is the point of emphasis. Let's get this third down issue short up and we'll be a better offense

for it. All Right, we come back up to have Javon Wims back with us as the Bears get ready to meet the New York Giants were brought to you by Igs Energy. For Tom There, I'm Jeff Jonahak with Julio Sao, our producer. We thank you for joining us tonight. Back in a minute here on Sports Radio six seventy to score. Tide Cleaners is now offering new Tide Complete Care. This exclusive cleaning formula can only be found at Tide Cleaners.

Visit Tide Cleaners dot com to learn more. Today, Jeff Jony Act, Tom There, This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The Score will be at Soldier Field on Sunday for the regular season home opener nine am pregame, noon kickoff with Ron, Jim and Jay as well. Tom. As you watch tape and break down the Giant's offensive line after watching it live on Monday night, then get the tape. Andrew Thomas, the left tackle, We're

here from Bob Pop earlier tonight. They thought in his conversation with Phil Simms as they looked at it that the kid did remarkably well for making his first NFL start. He's fixed six five plus three fourteen with quick feet and twenty six games starts in college at left tackle for the Georgia Bulldogs. What'd you see? You know, there's guys throughout the history of the NFL, saying Anthony Monyos, there's a Jimbo covert. There's guys that are natural left tackles, Jeff.

And when they have that type of talent, that type of balance, that type of that innate ability to be strong at the point of attack or in their past protection responsibilities, you can see it immediately and that's why they become a commodity. There's not a lot of guys like that. And then when you add his size and just has the power that he has and his growth

and his potential. I mean, he's got he's got the chance to be a left tackle of an organization of a decade or or however you want to look at his lifespan. But it's really unique when you see these guys that they're plug in play players. Not a lot of them, but this young man is one of the individuals. The Giants did a nice job evaluating the same with their guard a couple of years ago. Will Hernandez the

left guard. He's a nasty, powerful guy. Inside Gates is the center that they had a tackle when we saw him last year, so that was his first NFL start at center. Zeitler's a veteran. You count on him. And Cam Fleming has been a swing tackle last year with Dallas, three starts at the left tackle position. Now he's a starting right tackle. You know, one thing about left tackle

is they can isolate you. They can put you in space, and they could do a lot of creative things against you with mind stunts, and they have to make you

adjust to the with the inside guy. But when you look at Will Hernandez and the rest of the guys in the inside, Jeff, you got a security blanket your right and to your left, so you're not responsible for an enormous amount of space and it's a little bit harder to isolate you unless they have a guy like a Keem Hicks or Reggie White that they can line up over the top of your head and just overpower

you no matter where they want to line up. But yeah, it's one of the unique things about offensive tackles is they can pull you out. But again we mentioned with the no crowd noise how beneficial it is to that one position specifically that you can always hear the quarterbacks cadence. Yeah, Hicks by the way. I did not practice today because of an illness, so hopefully he'll be ready to go.

Had the sack the only one for the Bears and the win over the Lions on Sunday, so as you had time to think about this now with the no crowd being at Ford Field live and in color and seeing what was going on there with the sound and whatnot. Again again, unless you take your headset off, we're hearing sound pumped into our headset. What it is like on the field. We've heard varying degrees of opinions, but in a word, it felt weird for the players and coaches.

How does it impact and who does it benefit? Sunday at Soldier Field with no crowd, if anybody's benefiting well, the crowd response can affect the decision of an official and whether it's an interference call or a fumble or whatever whatever the officials take away from it. It's nondeniable

because the crowd has that type of impact. But when you're at home and you have a series where you go three and out or you have a play that really the crowd doesn't agree with, there is no reaction from the crowd, whether it's positive or negative, So you're not going to have the boo birds and you're not going to have the cheering fest. So it's about the discipline inside the thirties because that's where the players line up.

Even Chuck Pagano referred to it today in his press conference how at one time he could hear the players trying to make crowd noise on the field to affect the Detroit It's it's unlikely it's going to happen, But it's more the psychological aspects where you're not walking off the field with your head hanging low because the crowd is reacting to something they're not satisfied with. And how about it the line of scrimmage, who wins on Sunday?

With that in mind, who benefits I shouldn't say who wins, who benefits the offensive line or the defensive offensive line because every time you break the huddles right because you know the snap count, and that's one of the biggest weapons across the board in any type of organized football play. Because it's like a boxer. If if I know I'm gonna punch you in the face before you you know what's coming, I'm gonna punch you in the that's the mentality.

If these offensive linemen have to have one. Castillo has been talking about it all training camp, physical and finish, and if you can start the physical part of it before the D line, you can finish. I felt the Bears offensive line was very good on Sunday. Would you think you know the guy that I'm really impressed with is JERMAINEA Fetty Because I'll tell you this from the very first practice that I saw him out there and he was going against the Keem Hicks. You know, he

looked like he was thinking out there. When I go back and I look at big Jermaine of Fetty, he was more organized with Cody on the inside, with Bobby Massey too his right, you finally see that this three hundred and fifty two pounder is a big, powerful man with good feet. So I was really encouraged by what

I saw to everybody but Jermaine. I was impressed with the most sounds good going up against a defensive front for the New York Giants that include some big guys up front, Leonard Williams, Dalvin Towlinson, and Dexter Lawrence, A former first round pick in seventeen out of Clemson, a seventh round pick of the Chicago Bears in twenty eighteen, and a draft class that we all have high expectations for and all making plays right now is Javon Wims.

Juice is joining the program here on Bears All Access. Good evening, Javan how you doing. Congratulations sound to win and grabbing an important touchdown catching the fourth quarter? Good even, and good even. Thank you for having me? Yeah, all good. Uh, you know, you had one of the better camps out of all the players that we're looking at, and we could get a handful of guys that really rise and you were one of them. Do you think you're poised

to have a breakout season? Um? You know, I think I'm like, you know, the piggyback off what you said. I think I had a great camp and it led us just a lot of work I put in the all season, and you know it led to you know, just a lot of you know, minor but big improvements in my game. And you know, I think, you know with you know, my main focus is making the most out of every opportunity I get. So out of every opportunity I get, I've tried to just capitalize on it

that way. I get more opportunities in the future. That way I can larger role. So I think, you know, with in due time, with you know, the right of mind opportunities, I can you know, So I gotta have a good role from this team. Hey Javon, two questions here. What did you do with the football after you caught the touchdown? And did you want to spike it? Because I watched you kind of take it to the sideline and keep a hold of it. So what was your

thinking in the moment of catching that touchdown? So it was my I forgot it wasn't my first touchdown pass my career is my second one. So I spun it. I wanted to spike it, but I spun it. You know, obviously we were down, so you know, I didn't want to get too high, you know, be too low about it, you know, just how just you know, just be neutrue

in between. I'm happy I score and happy you know we put points on the board, but I just spun it in you know, adapted up my teammates, Hey, Jivan, So going back, you know the last three camps, Jeff and I have been at every single practice and from your rookie year to this year. We've seen you make big plays throughout training camp, and like Jeff said, is this your breakout season? However, you know, I thought that Nick Foles really helped you in training camp. He gave

you an opportunity to make big plays in camp. He never shied away from you, whether you were going down the sideline or across the middle. So can you talk a little bit about just that relationship and how that type of quarterback. You guys had good quarterbacks no matter who you were playing with, but Nick himself, how did

he help you develop this year? Um? Well, just Nick, he's been around and you know me personally, you know, through my personal journey, I've always had quarterbacks so where you know, I'm either older than in football years or older than than them in age, or we're the same age. And you know, obviously I can learn a lot from Michigan. You know, he's been um in the NFL year longer

than I have. But you know, just to have that older, older veteran presence like Nick, you know he's been he's played with the great receivers and you know receivers specifically that you know he loved to comparement to is Uh. You know, he's guy outshine that he played with and you know, just him trusting me, you know, were having a solid relationship. You know, he definitely helped me have a great account. You know, you've done zoom meetings with

the media. Javon Wims, our guest here on Bears All Access Chicago Sports six seventy the score. You said minor improvements to your game, but you definitely, in my opinion, in camping on the field on Sunday, you look faster. Is it because of the whole traditional cliche which is not really a cliche, it's reality is that you're not thinking as much. You're just playing and running and you're

not able to cut it loose and play fast. Oh, it's some of that, and it's I think it's a little bit of that, and it's you know, it's definitely more so it's a mental aspect. You know, so much thinking that goes on the football and a lot of

people just line up Jesus play. But there's a lot of X and os, and there's a lot of things that whatever the is, like chess, whatever defense do you know we have the counter that social a lot of things like going But once I'm so fully you know, invested in the playbook and I'm so fully just you know mentally, Um, you know, I have so much just this year, my slackers is different and you know I've had you know, and I realized that I had to

cut back that way I could play faster. You know, I'm a lot leaner, I'm a lot lighter, and you know I'm not thinking as much. So definitely confidence and you know, just being in my playbook helps with all that. It is your third year and that's usually a time when this all comes together. You learn a lot about what it means to be a pro. But you know

the influence of your receivers. Coach Mike Furrey, who played the game and probably could still play a little bit giving him look yeah maybe maybe well he wasn't safety too, but you know, did he spark the fire that say, hey, listen, you know I believe in you, so going go ahead and do it, do these little things to make a big difference. Oh definitely. Um, you know, it's it's so it's so incredible to you know, to have a coach that you know truly believe in you and that wants

it as bad as you want it. Sometimes he may even want it more than you know yourself. And you know that's coach. He's definitely a motivator. He definitely stays on me every day at it's literally every day. You know, he's talking to me every meeting, and you know he calls me at least once or twice a week, you know, the same, talking to me about everything. So he definitely see, you know, a great potential in my abilities, and he definitely wanted to make sure he shows that potential. You know,

Jim Van being six four. When you're watching your teammates, can you watch a guy like Anthony Miller or Darnell Mooney or tere Cohen and the way they run their routes or do you pay more attention to a Rob Cordarrell Patterson even ted Kin Junior and how they run routes or or is it kind of like everybody can watch everybody how they run them. Well, you know everybody can watch everybody but me. It's you know, you gotta also be realistic. I never you know, I'll never be

as quick as Anthony Miller. You know he's five eleven, five ten, you know, one hundreds of the path and you know, see as quick as light and the same thing with TERI. You know, with those guys, their quickness is unmatchable. No, this is being realistic with myself. My physical abilities match more of Adama Robinson. It matched more of a bigger received, So I kind of passanted those guys.

And I also have a you know, athleticism that's kind of unmass as well, because although I'm six four, I'm move around like I'm six foot and you know, it's definitely I use that to my advantage. I'm learning to use that to my advantage now in my third year. Hey, javan will you stick with us through a commercial break and then wrap it up here in a few minutes. Absolutely, all right, Javon wims for one more segment coming back

as we break down Bears and Giants. We'll ask him about what he sees in the Giants Sunday at Soldier Field with Tom there, I'm Jeff Joni Act. This is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score. Hey, Bears fans, It's important to stay connected now more than ever, and at Motorola, we love making that possible. With a new razor, you can enjoy staying connected a little bit more. It's a bone it's an accessory. It's a night kind reinvented.

Hello Moto, Jeff Joni Ac time there. Javon Wims kind enough to join us for one more segment before we hand it off to Thursday Night football. Browns entertained the Bengals tonight of the one hundredth birthday. Hey, happy birthday, Javan. I mean to say, you played in a hundred years of football. That's a big deal. That is that's amazing. Yeah,

man Naggie said, it's kind of cool. A bunch of Georgia Bulldogs down the field on Sunday, My friend, you got a bunch on the Bears of course, uh with Roe Kuana and yourself and Riley Ridley and John Jenkins. But you got the Lorenzo Carter over there and Andrew Thomas. A lot of Georgia bulldog love on Sunday. Soldier Phil,

what are you? What are you expecting on Sunday? Uh, you know, go out there, definitely want to compete against those guys, and you know, hopefully you know, you know, the home team, you can get a victory, you know, thanking on it um, you know, and I expect you know, those Georgia guys like you said, my former teammates to guard there, you know, and just you know, I'm be

happy to see those guys as well. Hey Dravan, when you're on the sidelines waiting to go into a game, what segment do you what do you watch the wide receivers, the dbs or the quarterback and what segment can you learn the most from, oh far, opposing team or my team? Well, I mean, when you're on the sideline and you're looking at your own offense. But if you're looking at your own offense, would you look at the opponent's defensive backs or do you look at what your wide receivers and

what your quarterback is doing? So I'm manly. Um, you know, I watched what the defensive backs look like. They're aggressive if they're you know, kind of you know, passive already aggressive at the top of the route, aggressive at the line of scrimmage. Um. I look at how the defensive scott disguise their coverages, what the safeties had to do. Um, look at how they communicate cornerbacks to safeties. That I

definitely look at the route combination of our receivers. You know, I see our receivers every day in practice, and I know those guys are good, so you know, I don't know too much. Have to watch them all the way. I'm kindly pastances, guy says, guarding them. Um. So that way, when they come up to silent they ask me any question about anything they could have did different, I give them my opinion or you know, I asked them, Okay,

how did you know this guy playing on you? Or what did you you think you could have did different? Or your route? So I kind of just, you know, I pay attention of both parties, receivers and defense. Hey, javon Sunday night on Bears Game Night Live with Lauren Screed, and you said that during Club Dub that you guys all brought out your sunglasses. Is this gonna be the year of prop Club Dub or was it just a one time thing where you guys just had him and

went with it. Nah, I think I'm gonna go harder. I got my uh, I got my dirt Fike goggles I'm about to bring out for the next club. Don't go hard to share for the wins. Yeah, Well, you know, you guys like to show your personality, and I know absolutely as a group, you guys were ticked off about how it all ended last year, and it just seems there's a lot of recommitment here. Was it difficult to stagger through three quarters? And even Matt Naggi called the

frustration until the fourth quarter. Is that a learning lesson for this team here moving forward as well? Well, you definitely would love to learn from wins versus losses. And that's the most important thing that you know, we gotta one in the win column of this past week. But yeah, you know, frustration kicks in. But like I said, you know, we got a great group of guys. You know, we are a positive mind, uh minded people. We are, we're brothers.

We come together. We don't know, we definitely don't divide, and we definitely don't we believe in the next person. And I definitely you know step fourth quarter hit. You can see it was just light switch that turned off. And the offense we complimented the defense, and defense defense complimented offense, and special teams played well as well. So that was just saw a great quarter for the whole unit,

the whole team. Well, it certainly was, and uh we'll remember it, that's for sure, because division road wins no matter fans are not are big deal? Hey, good luck on Sunday. Thanks for taking the time to join us. We'll talk to you down the road. Oh, thank you guys for having you. Chavon Whims our guest. You're on Bears Our Access. That's gonna wrap us up big time. A final thought, make it quick, man, I'm just looking

for another w another win. Exciting. Uh. I know, no crowd and soldier field, but that doesn't really leave the excitement behind. We're looking forward to at night. I am pregame noon Kickoff on WBBM on Sunday with Julio Rosseo. Our producers Jordan Trentup and Damareli. I'm Jeff Johnny Akatom there. Thanks for Jovannah Whims and thanks to you for listening. Thursday Night football just ahead here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Good night, thanks for listening to

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