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Bowl Week couple of a couple of weeks away. Here as we wrap up the week before getting settled, gonna be weird seeing teams not really partaking in the whole festivities coming in on Saturday, one team having to fly. Tom Fair, Jeff Jonniak with you on Bears All Access brought to you by IGS Energy. But we got the senior ball already. Looking ahead to the draft prospects, I know I'm starting to do high research. I call my good buddy up, Tom Thare and say, hey, you got

to hear about this guy. You gotta hear about that guy, and I'll be anxious to go back on NFL Network later today and see some of the practice tape. So how you doing tonight? To good You know you started this segment by saying, it's a fun of the super Bowl week and the only fun for me this week is reminiscing about the thirty five year anniversary of the eighty five team. But there's always that lingering envy, that lingering. It's not jealousy, because I envy the position these guys

have worked themselves into having this opportunity. Whether you're in it for the second time around in Kansas City or you're in it for the tenth time around, like Tom Brady, there's always that remembrance of what a great time it is. And like you were right, you addressed the fun of the super Bowl because that's what it is. There's a lot of hard work, but there's a lot of fun opportunities, a lot of fun introductions and meetings that you have to you get to have in those couple of weeks.

But and again, like you said, unlike any other super Bowl preparedness, this is different. Yeah, very different. First one to twenty five years. I won't be at no. I was thinking about that. I was talking to some people about that because they said, oh, I bet you. Jeff Joni X really excited because he gets to go to the super Bowl Bowl every year and I go, Yeah,

he is excited when he gets to go. But this is kind of a different monster here, just because if they don't have the mass media radio role and all those other things going on there. Yeah, I'll be done virtually this time around. But well, we'll get you all the information you need. We'll break it down. Maybe not so much this week's show, but next week as we preview the matchup between Tampa Bay and the Kansas City

Chiefs trying to repeat as champions. Coming up, we'll be talking to our good buddy, Jim Miller, the former Chicago Bears quarterback from Serious Sexam NFL Radio. He'll be coming up here shortly for a few segments tonight, and we're expected to hear from Charles Peanut Tillman tonight as the NFL did a very nice thing including all thirty two teams and they're sending some vaccinated healthcare workers to the

Super Bowl in Tampa. That'll be fun for them. They'll be among the twenty two thousand that will be allowed in that stadium. Tommy, right, And you know that's another other thing that's different, because I think when you're an active player and you go to the Super Bowl. I think when we went, I think everybody got maybe twenty tickets, and so you had twenty tickets to distribute amongst family members, and I got to assume the number is going to be similar for the players this year, to get their

family and their support systems involved. But when you talk about the presentation to the healthcare workers that have put in so many dangerous hours over this past year, I wish all twenty thousand was healthcare workers from around the country and the guys that have sacrificed so much and the you know, seven days a week hours that some of these support healthcare workers that put in. So yeah,

I'm proud of the players. I'm happy for the players, but I'm also glad that there is a reflection of the appreciation from the country to the people that put a lot on the line over the year. Well with you and Miller and Peanut, three Super Bowl participants, two of you were winners, including Jim and Super Bowl xxxx and a World Bowl. Remember the World Bowl, the World Bowl champion in nineteen ninety five. We'll talk to Jim

about that coming up as well. Senior Bowl Week though really getting a lot of attention, as is the coaches that are being added to the Bears defensive staff. The acknowledgement today that Chris Rump leaving the Houston Texans for the Bears. He was linebackers coach there, tim and he'll be defensive line coach here. But the bulk of his experience is in college, and you coach at the following universities.

From Tennessee where he's co defensive coordinator and outside linebackers coach, and then a d line coach at Florida, at Texas, at Alabama, at Clemson, you pretty much coached NFL players because a bulk of those guys are in the National Football agre have been over the course of his eighteen years, right. I mean, he's earned this opportunity because he's coached every element of the defensive side of the ball, from defensive line,

the linebackers to defensive backs. He was a high school head coach back in the early portions of his career, and he he's a guy when you have, you know, eighteen years in the college ranks, I mean, you're paying your dues, You're doing exactly what's asked of you when you want to put your name in the hat to be evaluated for a coach at the professional level, and I'm glad that the Bears have gone out there and researched and brought in a player that has big experience

around big players, but he also has big experience himself. So I'm glad to see that for Seawan decide to get his staff started, that they bring in a defensive line coach that you know, has experience with all three courses of defensive play and a player himself at South

Carolina back in his college days. Also reports out there that Bill McGovern, who worked on the Eagles and Giants staffs and was a defensive coordinator at Boston College when Shawn Decide was the special team's coordinator, also reportedly headed to the Bears, his inside linebackers coach. He spent last season as a defensive analyst at Nebraska. Not official from the team just yet, but things to keep an eye on,

but coming up next well. Be joined by Jim Miller, the bears former starting quarterback in that two thousand and one playoff season and a host on sirius x M NFL Radio. That's all coming up next on Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Welcome back to Bears All Access brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at IGS dot com because every good choice

adds up to a better world. With Tom Thayer, I' Jeff Jonnyac joined by our good pal Jim Miller, the starting quarterback for your two thousand and one playoff team, your Chicago Bears. Unfortunately could not finish that game, got banged up a little bit. I was looking for the upset big Jim. Was that Hugh Douglas. Oh good lord, he's thirty grande later in the pocket. But I give very big to play that game, you know, keep on going, final game, Soldier Field. I thought we had that one

in the bag. Felt very good about going into that. Yeah, break down that play for us. What happened, Well, it was we called it was a play called tool Weight where I roll out to the right and it's a curl flat concept. So you got Marty in Dez White out there in a two receiver to that side. Marty was on the inside, he ran the quick flat. Des was the outside receiver. He's scheduled to run a curl. But the Philadelphia corner sat on the curl route. So

des did the right thing. He threw up his hand and started to run to the back of the end zone because we had already driven down the field. We were in the regime, we were at a score on this particular play, and I underthrew that ball. I hesitated. I should have thrown it to the back corner of the end zone. I think we would have had a touchdown on the play. I underthrew it because you know, something like that is just reaction. It hadn't happened all year.

But Dez did the right thing, and I just reacted too slow to it. Under threw the football and then of course it gets intercepted and I've run into the sideline to make the tackle and Hugh picked me up in body slamming and six years surgeries later, my shoulder finally got right. It's amazing the detail here remembers Tommy. Yeah, you know, Jim. But getting back to that, and let's update it because I was reading this article about Davante Adams talking about how he and Aaron Rodgers have a

telepathic relationship. Tell me a little bit about the relationship with your relationship from with receivers in the course of your career that there's no time for verbal communication. So it's eye contact, it's a hand motion, it's some type of movement that you can tell that player. Look, this

is what I'm expecting for you. Now let's work it out. Yeah, you know, just on that play for for Dez because the inside technique of the corner, it was just going to be it would have been too difficult for Dez to try and cross the dbat's face and try and come down a stem on the curl route. So we have a code a rule in football. Hey, if it's uh, if they're giving you the go route, raise your hand.

That'll be the signal for the for the quarterback. And it again that that situation hadn't come up all year. We'd run that play numerous times. That play is pretty much in the game plan every single week, and that never happened where a team had played it defensively like that, And you know, so you kind of takes you by surprise, and I reacted a little too late, unfortunately. And bottom line is when I throw the football, just deliver it

to the back piline of the end zone. But does gave me the signal, Hey man, I'm taking it, Jim, throw it out here. Is basically what he's telling you is telling the quarterback what to do myself. And I didn't put enough on it to throw it to the to the back of the end zone. And it's still you know, you remember things like that, you know, you know, I'm one of those guys that I don't know how you were, Tom, But when I at the end of a game, all I think about are the bad plays.

How do I correct this? How do I And they just they eat at you. You know, You're like, man, I'm better than that. I can't believe I because I know I can make that throw in my sleep. You know what where that ball needed to be on that particular play. And you don't forget things like that. Do you each have one moment in your career you want back?

Just one one? You know? We we were playing the Cleveland Browns opening week of this one season, and early in the game I gave up a sack to Sam Clancy and I said to myself, right there, I go, oh my god, I'm on pace to give up sixteen sacks this year. And I still remember because it's it's still haunting because the first game of the season, early in the game, you give up a sack. Well, you know, he's more athletic than your town a basketball player out

of pit. He was longer. That was it. I'm but but again, it's one of those plays that you know, you're reminded of every time you see it happen on the field today. Um, for me, it would be back in college. We were playing Penn State and we were up thirty seven to ten, and it was the second half of that game. All these things went wrong. I remember Bobby Ingram. Bobby Ingram was on that Penn State team and Carry Collins was the quarterback. We had a play.

We're up, like I said, thirty seven to ten, and late in the game there was a play a currroute, almost a similar situation, and I threw the ball maybe two maybe about a foot too high, and it goes It was a wet day because it was late, it was late in November, and the ball went through the receiver's hands and I'm thinking, how did I not put that on that receiver's chest? And I just remember that play, and all of a sudden, the momentum change. They threw

a bomb and then they are punter. We went out and we had a three and out and our punter's knee hit the ground, so they called him down when he was trying to punt. They were now in a red zone. They score another touchdown. Carrie Collins and Bobby Ingram throw another touchdown. They end up winning the game thirty eight to thirty seven to the day. I'm thinking, if you put that ball on that player's chest, we're walking out and we would have went to I think that was a year we would have went to the

Rose Bowl if we win that game. I think it's what was. Oh it was so yeah. That'll leave him Mark, That'll leave him Mark, my friend. All right, let's talk about the news of the day, really, and it's gonna be this way the entire off season. I know he did something for with Bob Sochi, the Voice of the Patriots today on his podcast, just talking about the quarterback carousel and everything you're reading and hearing is, you know, people are making all these projections about the chess match

and or checkers, whatever game you want to apply. You know, there could be fifteen or eighteen different moves that all start really with one of the dominoes. Falling, and it's it's I guess dealer's choice on which one of those dominoes will fall first and where it all lands. But Jim, how do you classify or characterize or put an adjective on what this quarterback carousel in twenty twenty one is gonna be? Like, Yeah, there's gonna be a ton of movement.

You know, you already know Stafford wants out of Detroit. Deshaun Watson that's out today, he wants out of Houston. And you know, for the players, you're gonna have to have a lot of compensation, and you're taking on those contracts which are big in a season where the salary cap is going down, the Deshaun Watson deal is gonna get crazy. I can see why the Jets should be interested. The Jets have the number two pick. We know that

Trevor Lawrence probably will be number one by Jacksonville. I just you know, we can't we can I don't want to say we can predict these things. I mean this is how it's looking right now. Yeah, educated guesses. But because you would think the Jets have the draft compensation to give Houston, you know that's literally going to be three number one picks for Deshaun Watson, and I think it's probably gonna be a couple more. It may be three ones and two twos, and that's all well and

good time. But Deshaun Watson has no trade class, so he could turn down something he doesn't want. Yeah, you know, I'm interested, so is Cam Newton. Have forgotten about entity in this whole quarterback deal because he doesn't have a big salary that's attached to him. He could go out there and find a team that he believes that his talent is a good fit for the supporting cast around him. And I know the biggest names, Matthew Stafford. Look, I admire the guy. He's got all kinds of arm talent,

he's super intelligent, he's dedicated to the game. He was rarely supported in Detroit, but he misses games and he's got health issues, and so you know, I don't I don't know what they're expecting to get out to Matthew Stafford. So and Deshaun Watson. I would do everything in my power if I was the Texans not to let him go anywhere, and I would try to keep him in the mix. That what a disaster going on in Houston. Right now, you bring up paid, there's gonna be other

quarterbacks available. I mean, what's gonna happen with Dak Prescott. They can't get a long term deal. I can't believe Dallas can franchise tag him again with the cap that would be forty million dollars alone. You hear Ben Roethlisberger. They can't. He can't return to Pittsburgh. He's scheduled to make a forty million dollars hit against the cap to Pittsburgh. Well, he said today he will make he will give up whatever it takes. Well, I think that sounds good. Hey Ben,

will you play for League Minimal? Do you think you look at it? Dart Bear. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but it certainly sounded like he'd like one more crack at it in Pittsburgh. Yeah, he probably will. That'll probably stay there, And you know, you look at their their GM Kevin Colbert, he's kind of tied to Big Ben. He's just been signing year to

year deals. So you would likely think that Ben would return there and they'll work it Outum, all right, we'll pick up that conversation after a break with Tom there and Jim Mella. I'm Jeff joningy ACC and this is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Jeff, Jonnyac, Tom There and Jim Miller from Serious x M NFL Radio pack with you on Bears All Access and the Chicago Bears Network presents Inside the Bears, brought to you by Verizon.

Anthony Adams and Lauren Screeten cover the world of Bears football on and off the field every Sunday night at ten thirty five pm on Box thirty two Chicago, or watch anytime at Chicago Bears dot Com or on the Bears official apt Peanut Tillman at the bottom of the hour to join us as well. Jim, Senior Bowl going on in mobile. I know you're watching it. What's sticking out?

What's the big story right now? Because obviously is going to be quarterbacks again, at least the senior quarterbacks, and the kid from Alabama might have sprained his ankle today so may not play in the game, which to me, the practice is more important than the game, as it is every year. But what's the overreaching big story right now?

From the senior boy Tom, Tom will appreciate this. What I'm about to say, because here you've got the big offensive lineman down here, like Alex Leatherwood of University of Alabama. He's got his teammates Dickinson, Dickerson, excuse me, Landon, he's got the torn acl he can't participate, but he is here. I mean, these are terrific offensive whyman that are down here. But it's a small school guys that are really showing up. There's a kid from Wisconsin, Whitewater Quinn Miners. This guy

played left guard. He opted out here in twenty twenty, didn't play, so he hasn't played for a year. Goes down there. They asked him to play center. He gets a text a day before he arrives says, hey, we had some centers cancel. Can you move to center? He's never played center, says yeah, I'll do it. He breaks his hand today, finishes the practice. He's going to play in the game. He's been probably one of the best offensive lineman down here. Also, you look at Spencer Brown

North Dakota State. He's been terrific with how he's played. I mean, it's really the small school offensive lineman that have really shown up. A Dylan ran Dunce Here's here's a young player that to me, he looks like the best left tackle you know, and he's looked terrific down here in Mobile. So it's been a you know, I think the old lineman had been great, but I'm telling you that minors, he pancaked three guys drive blocked him Tom ten yards down the field. Good players, these are

the top players in the country. Three times that happened in the first practice. Tell him, tell him, tell him, tell him what we talked about for about a half hour yesterday. Quinn miners right. It's just so I Jeff had sent me some of the highlights from the practices, and so you do get a chance to watch him and I first there was a still shot. I saw them and it wasn't real appealing. It was a big

gut sticking out of this half jersey. That's his name, Gut, that's his name name, he told me today I interviewed him. His nickname was Gutt in high school, it was Gutton College, and it's Gut down in Mobile. You know, when when you look at these smaller schools, you know, I don't I don't think I think talent can grow anywhere. Because Jim during our or probably maybe at the beginning of your area. At the end of my era, there's a guy named Tom Newberry. He was from one of these

University of Wisconsin. He was lacrosse or Whitewater or something, but he became a Pro Bowl offensive guard with with the Los Angeles Rams back then. And so when you get these guys and they happened to have a growth spurt during college, or they went to a program in high school that didn't attract very many recruiters, and then they end up going through a successful, healthy college program

and then getting invited to these bowl games. And then it only takes them a matter of a couple of snaps of practice to realize they belong and they can go out there and they can be as equally as competitive of those guys from Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, wherever wherever you want to you know, big school you want

to say they're from. So I get I get excited to watch some of these small college kids, not you know, well the lesser known college kids that come in here and have an unbelievable week or it is it Hassan Riddick is either linebacker from Temple. Yeah, a couple of years ago after Senior Bowl practice is watching him and him just fly around the field and really finally starting

to come into his own at the NFL level. But you know you sometimes these guys they get on the center of the radar and they never lose it once they start playing against some of that better talent, Jim. That happened with Ali, Mark Pett and Ben Bartsch last year. These are Division three programs, and the and the wrinkle this year is a guy like Miners. He didn't play last season. There was no season. So these small schools, the naias, the Division two, the threes, the FCS programs. Heck,

they're just gonna get started here in March. That schedule's coming out for all these small school conferences. But this is his chance, Like this is the chance with no traditional combine this week is critical. And I know I read this, but I also agree with this, Jim, and maybe you could echo it biring injury of some significance or some off field issue. I would say, all these guys at the Senior ball are gonna get picked this year because you're gonna know more about them than anybody else.

Yet they are a known commodity. There's no doubt, the importance of this game is like none other. Right now, it's at an all time high. And Jim Naggy, the executive director, has done a great job, you know, adjusting these rosters, even allowing players that opted out during the year to play down There's a couple of Michigan players. Nico Collins, who I think is impressed at the wide

receiver position. He's on the national squad. He's about six foot four, two hundred and twelve pounds, I think the corner of the Nichol slot corner. Andrey Thomas, he has been outstanding down there. He also has opted out. So not only for these guys not to play for as long as they have, just how they're performing. And Minuts is one of them. There's a couple others as well. There's a there's a This is probably the most talented roster I've seen since we covered the receiver the Senior Bowl.

At the receiver position alone. You know, when you look at Cadarius Tony, nobody can cover this guy. I mean, Tony has been outstanding from Florida, so I think Rogers as well, from from Clemson. Nobody's been able to cover him as well. I interviewed him today. He's a he's a pleasant young man. Well one just for Naggie to pull this off. I mean, these players have been tested every day. They've kind of kept a bubble down there, and they were worried about a breakout. The last guy

he invited to the Senior Bowl tested positive. He was the last player off the plane, and they were able to show that player and they had to have a backup player there. But really one hundred and thirty five on one hundred and thirty five they were able to pull it off down there, which is simply amazing. It

really is me. I think you're gonna tell more about the scouting departments of NFL teams this year unlike any other year, because these college scouts haven't been traveling around to some of these smaller schools or even some big ones from guys have opted out and sitting there, have eyewitness account of practice habits during the college season, or how do you perform and maybe a game that doesn't have the profile on it during the course of a

conference a conference year. So you know, you're gonna learn a lot about scouts and how they perform and how they evaluate and what is there determinate determinating levels of if these guys can really play or not. Ye don't think, got to rely on the tape and you're not gonna have face to face conversation, you know, yeah, you know, it's it's gonna be zoom and you get to know somebody that way, but you will be missing the face

to face unless things change. Obviously getting him on a board and finding out maybe what's inside of them that you may not otherwise find out until they actually put pads on, and he's already a member of your team. Well can pick up the conversation in a minute, but first a break, and then Charles Peanut Tillman, the outstanding Bears cornerback, will join us. This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. This segment of Bears on Access is brought to you by Athletical

Physical Therapy. Visit Athletico dot com to request an appointment in clinic or virtually and start feeling better Tomorrow with Tom Bear, Jeff Jonnyak, and Jim Miller from Serious x M NFL Radio moving the chains with Pat Kerwin coming up momentarily. Charles Peanut Tilman, Hey, you know, oh he is ready to go. Okay, very good, Charles. It's it's always a rare treat to have you on talking a little football, talking about what's going on out of your life.

So welcome in with Tom and Jim. How you doing, my friend, I am doing awesome. How you guys doing doing fantastic? Doing the best we can, that's for sure. And you made a lot of people happy recently here, Charles, because I think it's a fantastic initiative and one that's quite important by the National Football League and sending frontline hospital workers and healthcare workers to the Super Bowl and TAPPA and you are part of that from a bear's angle.

Tell us about it with Advocate Healthcare and how that all went down. Well, essentially, I just I don't know. I feel like I had the easy part. I just had to let people know they were in Super Bowl. I think the healthcare officials, the healthcare workers that I notified, I think they had the hard shot. Basically, they have

been working non stop. They didn't work in eight days a week, in twenty five hours a day through this whole pandemic, just you know, catering to people, giving tests and taking care of the people that have and affected by COVID. I think the NFL really wanted to do something nice for the healthcare community, and what better way than to reward them with an all expensive trip pay too Super Bowl. And I was just happy that I could be the bearer of good news considering it's been

such a crazy year, recognized by everybody. So this person before they were notified that they were getting this opportunity, did they know it before Charles Tillman presented himself or was it a surprise after this person had a chance to meet you and see you. Honestly, I didn't even introduce myself. I was just so I think one of their it was a hospital, a hospital representatives would say, hey, you know, thank you so much for all you've done. But some guests, we have a special guest that wants

to tell you something. And then I would come on and then obviously I would break the news in a good way, but I never say, hey, I'm trying someone with the Chicago Bears. I just was like, hey, just what you're going to su the bus roll? And I mean I would say everything else, but I never introduced myself. And then I think someone from the Bears is like, you might want to introduce yourself because they think you're

just a regular stranger. I think when you retire, you get old and then people don't know what you did. So I was just like, I'm an old retart guy. I will just give you the good news and never really introduced myself. Well but you well, once you start to tell them who you were, Charles, how did they react then this? I'd like to hear how interesting that guy? So forgive me. I don't know the first young lady's name, Um, she's sitting down and she was one of the first

was a black lady. I think she had glasses on. She's a Nurst practici And when I told her, she said, wow, wow, Wow. Are you staying wow wow? And then she actually apologized for not having any other words in her vocabulary other than wow, And I said, hey, no, you can. You've been working your butt off. You can say whatever you want. Just don't curse because it's you know, obviously this thing recorded, so h yeah, do you boom? Do you just you know?

But she was extremely excited about going to Super Bowl, and I believe there was one other gentleman I had to tell him I was like, look, this is not like any other trip like you. This is this is not like he's gonna be sitting up in the nose mets like you're gonna get a nice ticket, a nice experience, alcohol drinks, apple juice whatever. It's all paid for about the NFL, and they got a pretty big munches, They got deep pockets in shorthands. Okay, so beat up, drink up,

drink all the apple juice. You won't have a great

time because you have truly, truly, truly earned him. And not just the Chicagle healthcare representatives, but I guess all the other thirty one teams they that have you know, I don't know the criteria of how they chose those people, but shout out to all those people just in the healthcare field in general, and for those who have it or will not get the ability to go, just know that I appreciate you, and there are a lot of other people out there that do appreciate all that you

all have been doing this past year. Yep. And then when it's time get the vaccine, do it. That's the NFL's message. You. You in particularly you and your your lovely missus and your family have a unique appreciation given what you experience when your three month old daughter, Tiana, who's a big girl now right, you know, back in the day, diagnosed with cardiomyopathy, and that was a very

stressful period in your lives. But the work that was done, I think you always have appreciated that at a level that most of us can't even envision. Yeah, you know, the one thing that I will tell you is I love doctors, and doctors are amazing, and they get all the credit for everything. But a special shout out to all the nurses out there, all the r ends and nurses, assistants and all those people who actually sit with the patients on a twelve hour shift for three days a

week NonStop. I'm gonna give a special shout out to all those uh nurses out there that do that. I truly think they get left out. And everybody wants to thank the doctor, but I really think that the nurses aren't what's up. They They they do some good stuff and I don't think they get enough recognition and don't get paid nearly enough. Came on, you said, these guys are working eight days a week, twenty five hours a day, and that's that's the truth of the matter is how

many hours are putting in. But did you get a chance to hear any of their personal stories of why they're even being considered by the NFL for these tickets, or what are some of the you know, what are beyond the human approach that some of these guys had to do in order to you know, be in the same room with you and being presented this opportunity. Yeah,

so I spoke to um. I think one of the one of the gentleman that I spoke to was a custodial engineer, and the healthcare representatives said, this gentleman is picked because his attitude is so bright and so positive all the time, Like he just he might have a bad day, but you don't realize that he brings so much joy and energy and positivity to his job every single day, and it's it's contagious, and that's the kind of contagious you want, especially in a time like this.

So that was why they were warded that gentleman. And then I believe there were two doctors. They were a married couple and they had treated I don't know at lead over a thousand people that they had taken care of these two doctors, and I think that alone speaks volumes and just how special these two doctors were. And I simply said, man, y'all got hundreds of thousand dollars with that, but yet you take care of over a thousand people who were diagnosed with COVID in your hospital, like,

oh my god, you guys are working non stops. So I believe that was why these two doctors. I believe that's why they were chosen as well. And I'm sure if the Bears wanted to or if the healthcare representatives, they could have probably nominated being kind of hospital, and I'm sure they are all worthy of going. I don't know how they chose these individuals, but I'm glad I didn't have to choose, because I'm sure there are a

ton of people that were more than worthy of going. No, it couldn't be pretty wanted to better buy you because you're the Walter Payton Man of the Year and you display that as well. Let me let me ask you this, are you going to the Super Bowl? And let me ask you about the game in general? Is two great quarterbacks are going to be lighted up. I'd like to get your thoughts on both Charles. Yeah, so I personally will not be going to the super Bowl, but I

will be watching. And I'm I'm very I don't know, I'm very For one, I'm a Bruce Aarons fan. I'm a one. I'm his fan because I love how divers his coaching staff is. You know, I love that he goes outside the box and he hires people of color and all major coordinator positions. I love the fact that he's done that he's giving these these men a chance to showcase their talent um. But I also like too of what Eric Munity is continue to do with Patrick Mahomes.

You know, Um, these are crafty who know the game and they coach well. And you see the product of what they've been able to do with Pastrick Mahomes and Tom Bree. Uh what else can we say about Tom Brady? Is it? Can we just say he's the goat of all times quarterbacks? And ye? Can we just say that? I don't, I don't. I don't think. I don't. I don't think there's not another quarterback out and ever is he is the greatest of all times? Clearly he is

the greatest of all times. End of discussion. No rebuttal, no, no debate, no argument. He is the greatest of all time until somebody beats what he has done. Shut up. He can do though. I'm really how did to see what he can do. And I think his experience has really taken effects when he came over to Tampa. You know, his culture and how he practices and how he plays, and just his overall work ethic in his wisdom and just experience that I think that has really helped this

U Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense. Now on the flip side, you look at Kansas City. I think they're a younger team. They have way more weapons, but I think they're they're weapons with Tariq and Kelsey and and uh Levon, and I think their weapons have helped them. I think Tom's Brady, Tom Brady's experience has helped Tampa Bay and then Kansas City's weapons, uh fast paced. I think of a high Howard offense. I think that's what helped them get to

the Super Bowls. And obviously they have two good defenses. Charles p ut Tillman our guests for a couple of more moments here. You know you only played Tom Brady once and you swiped them twice, Yes, sir, well, so I played him in when I went to Carolina. I got that down count. I'm only talking about Bears, buddy. Now, I'm kid. I'm kidding him. Kid, tell your story. But I count it though. I mean, I know it's preseason and it doesn't count what I picked him off three times?

Hanging up in my mind? Do you really? Because that game was six go off three times? So it makes me I know, I can you know, pa my chest just a little bit, just a little bit. Oh yeah, Charles.

I have a question for you about Jayalen Johnson. When you look at yourself going back to your rookie year and you had the full offseason, you had the lengthy preseason, you had all the games and everything, and then you inserted in the lineup, you think of what he was able to accomplish under the circumstances of this past offseason.

Would would you have made the transition as smoothly as you did or without all the preseason activity that you were able to take part of what it had what it had been different for you early in the season. I will always bet on me to succeed. I think I could have made the transition I think I could have made a smooth transition. Um. I like the way Jalen's played. I like what he's been able to do. If I could only if I could critique him on

one thing, it would be tackling. And when the quarterback is outside the tackle box, you don't have to cover your guy. Just push from just push them. You can get you can jam them again. That's my biggest complaint about all dbs throughout the NFL, especially Patrick Mahomes. I think that's like one of the biggest keys. He is a scrambling quarterback and when he scrambles and he gets outside of the tackle box, you can hit that. You

know what. Out of Travis Kelsey, out of tih you can you can you can re engage with the receiver. And I would love it if Tampa Bay would do that, or vice versa. If the Kansas City I'm sorry, Kara City Chiefs would do that to Tampa Day's receivers to like Mike Evans or someone like that, Like I wish they would do that. That That to me, that's just when you when you do that, you're kicking your game to another level. You know, it's called work smarter, not harder. Oh,

mahomes a scrambling. I am not sitting alone with this speed demon. Okay, I'm gonna just hit Tarik. I'm gonna hit a one time and he gonna fall down and then house mahomes gonnead to look for somebody else. Oh travelers k oh, he on the ground too, Like that's mine. That's what I would teach my dvs. And obviously they got to cover. But you can. You can, like it's a you can eliminate the play if you just do that one thing. To me, that's the easy, It's so simple.

Almost broke my damn with more control. When I see dds not doing that, we gotta go. And thanks to Jim Mellow will doctor next week, Big Jim and and Peanut. It warms my heart that you're actually watching football, because you always told me when you grew up and playing, you didn't watch football. So I'm loving that I watch. I just like to play. But now that I'm out of it, oh my god, I'm missus so much. I watched it all the time. I've obsessed. I still do

bentasy football though, let's I can't do that. I can't get down with that. Appreciate by Hey, love he's coming back Houston Texans defensive coordinator. That's the rumor. Oh, I guess I might have to make a trip to Houston. And it's Charles pen at Telmo. Thanks for all your time, buddy, Thanks Jim. We'll talk him next week. And uh we'll continue with Tom and I on Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The score Hairs transmit shopping

for your game day celebrations. Don't forget to pick up your favorite variety of lays, Potato chips and tostitos and Lays are an essential part of the game day tradition and the official chip of your Chicago Bears Gold Bears. Tom, there, we got one segment to go, and I love talking to Charles put Tillman. Yeah. I was always flabbergasted at first. I always thought he was pulling my leg, that he didn't watch full never watch a growing up played at

a high level. Nobody was more tickled to be drafted by the Bears in round two. When he came into the league and developed into you could say, the top corner in Bears history. The numbers will prove that, the longevity proved that just a terrific career, But now he's watching football. And I, like you said, you love the coaching points. But most of the kids grown up and when we read their bios before they get into the NFL,

most of these guys are multiple sport players. So they're not just dedicating themselves to only watching football, investing year round into football. I mean, as soon as the football is over, they go onto basketball, they go on to wrestling, and then in the springtime they're in baseball. Are there in track? Right when I'm talking about watching a game

on a Sunday watching football, you did it. But I know, but kids are different, you know, back then when they're involved in multiple sports, if that's not something that you know, that's that's not what they're dedicated to. Look, when you're an offensive lineman, you don't have a lot of sports choices. It's offensive line play, it's wrestling, and then it's it's the summertime. Hey, you played first base, you know in baseball? Come on, you were a three sporter. You know. I wasn't.

I got struck out early in my career and I shied away from baseball because of it. However, um, but I think these multiple sports athletes. They're different. They spend their time wisely. Hey, we gotta say, uh God bless and uh stay healthy to Ron Rivera. So Stephanie, his wife, and his daughter Courtney both on Twitter today they had their final visit cancer free for Ron Rivera. So uh

way to go. Prayers up, continue to stay safe. He was diagnosed with squamaself cancer back in August, completed the treatment in October and never missed a game. You know, Ron's an amazing guy, he really is. Because when he came to the Bears, and he was a high draft choice and he had the high expectations, but the Bears

had a great defense on the field. You know, he was not too big in order he cut his teeth playing special teams and they and he got into the linebacker rotation, you know, and then he's grown into the NFL figure that he is today. He's really an unbelievable, well spoken and super intelligent family man. That is a real positive for the Washington football team. All right, I brought this up with Jim Miller, but I frankly was not aware that this was going to happen, and maybe

maybe you did until today. So three hundred and ten schools in thirty five conferences are going to be playing college football this spring at the FCS Division two, Division three NAI levels and then they're gonna throw New Mexico State in there. They're an independent, they're an FBS team. They're gonna start with seventeen programs played only one game in the fall, and more than a hundred teams will begin the seasons in either February or March. Knock on

wood with COVID and whatnot. But the NCAA approved a spring playoff. There's going to be four rounds of playoffs. The national championship will be May fifteen in Frisco, Texas. The ni NAIA also will have conferences offering football. They'll begin their seasons in the same time frame. How great is that? Number one for these kids? And I wish we had more time with Jim because are some of these kids draftaball or not? Or that is that? You know, I don't know how that works, but it's a great,

great moment. But how does that affect then the next season? Well, you know, you have a supplemental draft. Let me tell you something about college football. When these college football kids they go through springball, I think you got forty days to put get in thirty practices something like that. I don't know if that's the exact number. But when you go to spring ball, every single practice, Jeff is live. I mean, it's strap it up, tape it up, you get ready to go out there in every single drill,

every single period is live. So now you put these guys and you give them games at the end of the rainbow. So now the practices are more constructed like practices, so you're developing ability, you're teaching a system, You're allowing these kids to understand what they weren't able to capitalize

on in the fall. So to me, I just think it's it's probably a safer way to go through football rather than having thirty practices where if you go out there and you don't have the college recruits coming in, although some kids leave after their senior year to come in early and or early as a freshman. So I'm glad I like it because the abuse that you used to go through in spring practices, I think these game opportunities will be more beneficial for their future, for their

families and their own love of the game. Yeah, I think it's great, and I'll tell you a lot more people will watch because you don't get a chance for really to watch these small school players. And with the draft being what it is nowadays, you can find as we discussed with the Wisconsin Whitewater gentleman who plays guard and center at the Senior Bowl, there's a lot of great players in there. And also excited about the HSA, you know, getting players back. I know your brother's heavily

involved still in high school football Joliet. So these kids and I know Olin Kreutz has been on this to get him back, get him back, get him playing right, you know, the basketball, the kids playing basketball. The kids are gonna have an opportunity to get back on the football field again, because it's bigger than just the individual.

Because when my brother and I were playing sports and we had the support of my mom and dad and my family and everything, it was a great It was a great part of all of our lives, all right. Last thing that thirty seconds another word on Sean to said, super smart, very intelligent guy, paid his dues longest tenured coach of the Bears, your defensive coordinator. I like Sean. I liked what the stages of learning he's been through to develop to create this opportunity. He's created this opportunity

for himself. He's not being gifted anything. This has nothing to do with nepotism. This is Sean Decide, paying his dues, being there every morning in the building at five o'clock, preparing all the information he needed for the coaches that he worked with. So Man, I am really pulling for him and earning trust and respect from his players and fellow coaches. That's gonna wrap us up this week. Appreciate your time, everybody, for Jim Miller and for Tom Thair

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