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NFL after the wrap up of the Super Bowl. It's all focused now on who's going where and why and filling out coaching staffs. The carousel of quarterbacks will certainly dominate. We've touched on that for many weeks, will continue to do so as the rumor milk turns out a bunch of maybe half baked truths, and maybe there's some good, good information in there, but it is the lying season, so you gotta be on your guard about it all.

But we'll break it all down with Jim Miller from Serious Sex MNFL radio coming up at the round six h eight, and then Olan Crutz at the bottom of the hour, the Bears officially making senior defensive assistant Mike Petton and official hire coming over from the Green Bay Packers as defensive coordinator, and we welcome in Tom Thare from the warm island of Maui. Buddy, how you doing?

Oh man? I hate when you do that introduction because every time I look at the weather report back home, I feel so bad for the people that are suffering through another polar vortex in the Midwest. So I can't deny it's it's nice here, it's pleasant. But when you talk about the new Bears hiring, I'm excited about it. I love bringing a guy aboard that is not going to have to be taught about the division, about the

personnel groupings. I think there really expedite how influential he can be in the brand new start of the career. Sean to say, so, I'm excited for both of them. I think they have the opportunity to fit well together and work well together. So on the outside looking in you say, well, okay, you know this is a completely new defensive staff, but it's not. There are three new defensive coaches, but there are other coaches. Make it four defensive coaches that are brought in new and then coaches

now in new responsibilities, beginning with John. Decide we're gonna hear from him on Monday, you have his first introductory news conference as a defensive coordinator. But he's been around a long time. He knows the personnel. Just want to be most intrigued by what is the slant he's going

to put on this defense? Well, first question, if I was in the in the audience, I would ask him who's his biggest influence because as when we met Sean in the NFL level, you know you got influence from the Fangiel Then he got influencers from Chuck last year, so you know who what resonated with him? What did he feel out from the coaches that he was learning from m SO and I'm just really excited to see

how Sean presents himself in front of the media. We've got a lot of examples from the Zoom calls this past year, but really, when the whole meeting is surrounded by you as a hire and what you're doing in the future, I'm really interested to see what happens Monday. Well. I think he'll do fine in that role. He does have some relationship obviously with the Chicago media since doing stuff even even on the Bears Coaches Show on w BBM.

Over the years when we were able to do all the assistant coaches and they we transitioned into just doing coordinators. You learned a lot about these assistant coaches and at the at the beginning of his NFL career, learning a lot about his ability to be a teacher. Number one, That's what he was going to be. He was going to be a teacher. They call him Doc for a reason, you know, they do trust him and in football intelligence

and just his overall intelligence. How that translates, it's now calling your defense will be the biggest, the biggest insight that we can learn over the course of the sea and we won't find that out until the season. Yeah, but you know, over the course, when Sean came aboard to the Barrass facility and we would get there super early on Monday mornings and Tuesday mornings, he was already

there filtering information for the next opponents. So this is something that he's invested a lot of football time into, learning about different offenses, different personnel, different types of schemes, and then how they all fit into place with the coordinators that he's worked with. So this is not something that he hasn't invested in. He's put a lot of time of himself and his family in order to get

this opportunity presented to him. And listen, bearrass fans, I mean this is going to be a Vic Fangio type. I mean, I'm sure they be some blends here. You've got all sorts of different influences on this defensive coaching staff now, but it was Vic who you know he'd love to have brought Sean decided to Denver. Mike Petton worked with Vic fan Joe in Baltimore. He was a Cleveland Brown's head coach at one point. There's all kinds of angles to this. Bill McGovern will be your inside

linebackers coach. Bill Shoey, the outside linebackers coach already in the system to shade Townsend. Obviously, Mike Adams has just shortly been removed from the NFL and now he's an assistant secondary coach with sixteen years of experience. Ron L. Williams and Shane Toberre defensive quality control coaches. So a lot of names we've heard, we just don't know a

lot about them because they've had other background jobs. You know, it's interesting the foundations of the coaches that we've got to meet because we were when we met Matt Maggie's father. It's just it's a football player. It's a blue collar guy. And to talk about the experience. When you look at the father of Mike Patton, if you ever look at his career in what he was able to accomplish as a high school coach over thirty three seasons, he had like a three hundred and forty two and twenty four

record with multiple stage championships. So it's just more of you learn about the backgrounds of these dedicated coaches and you think of some of the biggest influences in their life, and it's those types of people, and Mike was a heck of a high school football coach. Also, Pennsylvania. You're born and bred, so you got a lot of Pennsylvania. You're coming through here, that's for sure. All right. When we come back, we take our first break. Jim Miller

from Serious Sex M NFL Radio. The Bears two thousand and one, starting quarterback in their playoff drive at Soldier Field and getting beat by the Philadelphia Eagles, and our guy Hugh Douglas. Oh what would have been? What would have been? I tell you, Dick Giron always said, if Jim just could have stayed healthy, That's what he always kept saying. We'll talk to Big Jim all the crews at the bottom of the hour. It's all coming up by Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

the Score. Hey Bears fans are shopping for your game day celebrations, don't forget to pick up your favorite variety of lays, Potato chips and tostitos. Tostitos and lays an essential part of the game day tradition on the official chip of your Chicago Bears. Go Bears. Jeff Joning, Act, Tom Bear, and we Walcome in Jim Miller from Serious Sex, m NFL Radio, Moving the Chains with Pat Kirwin, Big Jim, how you feeling I I'm doing great, Jeff, Tom always

good to be with you guys. Hey, we're gonna talk about the post super Bowl first of all, but real quick on the quarterback carousel. Everybody thinks because Matthew Stafford, at least this is my impression from what pepar he's bugging me about. Hey, you know one of the Bears is gonna get a quarterback or what are they doing at quarterback? How come it hasn't happened yet. Matthew Stafford gets traded and everybody thinks it's all gonna happen at once.

Tell people that this is going to be a process for a lot of different reasons. One, not going to rush into anything. Roster bonuses aren't due until mid March from In most cases, there's the vetting process of exactly

what the salary cap is going to be. If you're a team, you don't want to get put yourself in a bad bad spot because of what the salary cap might be for twenty twenty one, Nbond Absolutely, I think teams want to get themselves fiscally, you know, in order get their house in order with the financials, because you're you're going to see a lot of guys out there. I mean there are teams like New Orleans is two

hundred million dollars over the cap. I mean there are teams out there that are that are like that right now. So you're going to see a lot of reductions, a lot of restructures, a lot of releases just where they may approach a player player said I'm not taking a pay cut. Well, teams got to get under the salary cap. They may be releasing players that are out there. So you're not going to see any players, at least quarterbacks signed from that standpoint. So let's say like Dak Prescott,

Dallas right now is over the cap. They can't you know, they're not going to start negotiating with their quarterback just yet, or do they have to place the tag on him, because if they have to place a forty million dollar tag, second tag on Dak Prescott, that's going to significantly affect the Dallas Cowboys and what they'll have to maneuver in order to stay under the salary cap. Or he may

just be out there and be a free agent. I don't know if that happens, but there's a lot of things in this quarterback market that are really gonna you know, affects some things and why teams will go about this slowly. I know Carson Wentz has been in the news quite a bit. To me, he's worth pennies on the dollar right now, and that's why I think the latest report was that they've been talking to the Colts. The Colts actually want more compensation. If they're going to take on

that big contract, we will be getting more than everybody thinks. Oh, they'll just give up to first round picks for Carson Wentz. No, he's not worth that because his contracts so big. So there's could be a lot of interesting things I have, But quarterbacks will be in the news a lot this offseason because there'll be a ton of guys that are out there and potentially could become available. We know what's going on with Watson, we know what's going on with

Russell Wilson out there. Russell's interesting. I doubt Seattle gives them away or trades him, but I guess, you know, if you sweeten the pot and make it so ridiculous that they would move him. The reason why you like Russell when why teams have been called his contracts really friendly the next three years. You can get him for like three years seventy billion dollars. That's pretty good for a player of that caliber. That's why a lot of teams Seattle, Big Jim. You know, it's something you know,

we're sitting here talk about the quarterback position. And I think Brady really confused the situation because now people, I don't know if you're looking for a long term solution for the type of team you have surrounded, or are you looking for that gun slinger like Brady. So when you look at the first deal that went down with the Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford, it seemed like they immediate try to capitalize on the success at Tampa Bay and then a big picture of the super Bowl being

there next year. So to me, when you look at all these quarterbacks, because you know, Russell Wilson still has something left in the tank. Obviously Deshaun Watson's a young man. But when you look at what Indianapolis tried to do last year of Philip Rivers and is that their mentality? Are they looking for long term stability at quarterback. So I think Brady really kind of went and kind of confused what every team's dream is looking forward at the

quarterback position. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because you know, Carolina was in on that Matthew Stafford deal too. They were going to give up their number twelve overall, but ultimately the Lions acquiesced and let you know, Stafford kind of drove it. Hey, he's been a good, solid citizen. He has been the face of the franchise, almost like how Alex Smith. You know, Andy Reid went to Alex Smith

and said, hey, where do you want to be? We've got this guy Patrick Mahomes and Alex said, Hey, I'd like to go to Washington, And that's why Alex was trade there. And it's kind of the similar situation Detroit because Matthew's been nothing but a good soldier for the Lions. Hey, Matthew, where do you want to go? And he wanted to go to the La Rams and so that's what kind

of drove those deals. But Carolina was interested because they're thinking of future and Matthew still has many years ahead of them, and I think teams are looking that way at Carson Wentz. His best football literally should should be ahead of them. So I would think Carolina will probably make that call to Philly as well, and there'll be more teams I think, start starting to get into this

mix for potentially Carson Wentz. All right, can I ask you as this question though, this whole thing about it's it's kind of interesting to me because the NBA, obviously, the great players in the NBA can create a lot of their own destination. I think Lebron started that whole process years ago. But you know now because of Brady leaving New England going to Tampa winning a Super Bowl. You know that Aaron Rodgers wasn't pleased that Jordan Love

was selected last year. And now the Russell Wilson, who I admire. I think he's an outstanding quarterback and leader in a really good face for a franchise, but coming out strong, you know about getting hit and whatnot. There's and we'll talk to old Cruts about this at the bottom of the yar. I'm interested in his opinion as well,

and you as players and Jim as a quarterback. The one thing a team has to do what it has to do, even as it regards Wentz, he never said anything about it, but the insinuation is he didn't appreciate the drafting of Jalen Hurts. You got to accept competition, I mean at every position, including that one. I just don't understand that type of thinking. As a guy who's analyzed football here for the last twenty five thirty years, I don't get that part. Do you believe that's okay?

Or do you guys both believe that that's an unnecessary reaction? Yeah, I think players got to understand, and you know, it's it's one thing for a player to say why I want to be involved in personnel decisions. I mean that that doesn't happen and it shouldn't happen because you've got scouts, You've got people that that do that job. I mean, no offense to Russell Wilson, he's not scouting through all these wide receivers or all these offensive linemen and watching

every snap. They've drafted fifteen offensive linemen for him up there in the Great Northwest m So he's not watching the tape on on these guys. He's not going to know about him or what they can and cannot do. And that's you know, But like for when it comes to free agents. Uh, you know, I've had coaches approach me about, hey man, we're thinking about signing this guy, what do you know about him? Or say you're bringing

on a coach on a staff like for Russell. I don't see Russell go anywhere because he was part of Shane Walden joining that staff, all right. They want to make sure that, Yeah, our quarterback is going to get along. This is what we're thinking, Russell. This is the philosophy we're looking to bring here, what we're going to try and make sure that relationship is good. I mean, I

think we all understand that. But when it comes to personnel and decisions like that, I mean, the players really aren't going to know they're they're not grinding through the tape to know any better. And plus it's the financial side of it too. It's one thing to say. I remember because when I arrived in New England, Bill Belichick was asked me about a couple of players. He was asking about Big Cat Williams, who they signed, and he

asked me about Bobby Ingram. You know what I thought about because obviously Bobby went out and had some great years in Seattle, and you know coaches will ask you information on that. Now whether they take that information and use it to make a decision, but they just want to get your thoughts on a player maybe that you've played with, and that's about it. Tim, I understand that that's that's nor I mean that that's a given. That's

a given. You know, the personnel to decisions is too sensitive for a player to be involved in a lot of different directions because there is no secret And when you talk about the war room leading up to the day of the draft, you're talking about a room that it's difficult to get in because they don't want to

see the conversations that you're having behind closed doors. And then you talk about a player wanting to get involved, So what are they going to start promoting a player that their agent has attachment to, And then you're going to start getting involved in a business end that's not necessarily unethical, but it's it's not realistic in terms of the secret to the secretiveness of guys that Hey, I'm you know, I want this guy to be around in the seventh round, you know, so maybe we can kind of,

you know, just ignore him until he gets to that to that opportunity so for a player that's going to be around a shorter period of time, um and being involved in personnel decisions, No, I would not have any agreement with that. It's the old cliche owner's own coaches coach players. Yeah, you know, it really is because and I know it seems to be an ugly situation down there and in you know, Houston, or if Russell Wilson

is unhappy, which I don't think he is. I think you know, he just said, hey, you know I've been getting sacked a lot that they're trying to address that right now. So I don't see him going anywhere. But at the end of the day, they're under contract. They have a no trade clause, both of them. I mean that both those teams can just say, all right, fine, you don't you don't want to show up, Fine, don't don't show up. We'll just find you a million bucks.

It's forty thousand dollars a day. And I would you know, that's the leverage the team has. The players really have no leverage. So you know, it's it's kind of where it's at Orlando Brown trying to talk his way out of Baltimore right now. Okay, this is what we call the protest season, right because no football going on. They can protest all they want. They're not going anywhere. I call the lying season. Maybe it's both, it's both. Yeah.

He says he's a left tackle and that's what he wants to be, so he knows that's a big paid We just signed Ronnie Stanley for ninety eight million bucks. But we do like how you played left tackle. But well we're gonna put you back over at the right, all right, we gotta take a break. Jim Miller Our guests from Serious x M NFL Radio with Tom Fair. I'm Jeff Johnny AC and this is Bears All Access on Chica Go Sports Radio six seventy the Score. This segment of Bears All Access is brought to you by

Athletical Physical Therapy. Visit Athletic dot com to request an appointment in clinic or virtually and start feeling better tomorrow. Jeff Jonny Act, Tom Fair and Jim Miller our guests from Serious sex ANFL Radio, Old and Crews coming up in about five minutes. Let's talk super Bowl. First of all, I saw these statistics. I'm a thrown at you. I love them. They're from there from the fifty five Super Bowls.

All right, team with the fewest turnovers no brainer, thirty eight and five record in Super Bowls, team with the most rushing attempts forty six and seven, and the team with the most rushing yards forty one to thirteen. Now, again, if you're winning and you're sat in the game away, you're gonna get the more carries in the more yards. But I just please, there's a place for a running game in the NFL, and there's a place for it

in twenty twenty one and beyond. So I know that you both will agree with me on that, right Tommy, Well, yeah, I think Jim, Yeah, I hope you didn't be in agreement because the guys that run the ball successfully, that's their game plan going into the game. It's not something that's offered to them in the mid middle of the first quarter. And you know you've got to you just events allow you to do it. This is what you

come into the game plan. It's it's gonna major, it's going to influence the rest of what you try to do on offense. But yeah, I mean, a running game has been the foundation of a lot of a lot of success in the NFL, and I think the Super Bowl proves it. As for let me just look at the teams in the postseason. Out of the out of the fourteen teams, I think ten of them are in that top fourteen. And just in terms of holl of running football, we could go through Baltimore, Rams, Green Bay.

It goes on and on and on of how well they ran the football all season long, and that statistic in the Super Bowl. I mean for Tampa Bay to rush for one hundred and forty five yards and I thought Leonard Fournette, he was big for them down the stretch and what he was able to do, so, you know, and that's with the rookie right tackle. Look how well Tristan Worst played all year and that's a pretty good offensive line that they surrounded Tampa Bay with. And unfortunately

for Kansas City, they had three significant injuries. Remember Tardif opted out, They signed Collecchio, assembly he ends up tearing his pack, so they're basically down to their third right guard from that standpoint, and they lost both their tackles. So I mean, that's definitely duly noted, Jeff. Is what

I'd say. You gotta run the football, You know one thing, Jim, and during the introductions of the Super Bowl ball one thing I noticed, and from having the injury, when I saw Patrick Mahomes walking from the locker room to the field, he kind of appeared to be walking with an uncomfortable step. It wasn't just a comfortable gait that you didn't think about it. So to me, it was that that had that had an effect on him, that how bad his foot is. And I know he's already scheduled to get surgery.

But um, you know, I think with the quarterback position and how important it is in Kansas City, if you're less than one hundred percent and the other team can see it, um, I think you try to take advantage of it, and you lose some of your advantage as the Kansas City chiefs, coaches and play callers. Well, the one thing that was stunning to me NFL next Gen stats, Jim, four hundred ninety five yards he scrambled in that game. Yeah, four hundred ninety I mean it's well, I mean, I

mean they were tracking him down like rabid dogs. Well, it's interesting too, and Tom can can comment on it. Kansas City didn't help out any of their tackles. They kind of they live in what we call scat protection, which is just the five offensive wyman blocking, and they didn't they didn't get out of it. They're just like, hey, this is who we are, this is what we've done all year. And they didn't really give their tackles any help.

And they just felt like that they were going to roll in the big game with what brought them there. And Tampa Bay definitely had the players. They got healthy right away at the end, right with Vita vad they got their top cornerback in Carlton Davis, and it's just a mismatch between Shack Barrett and with JPP on the other side. They were destroying those tackles, specifically Shack Barrett. He had eight sacks alone. They only had They only blitzed five times in that whole game. Tampa Bay did.

Once they realized that that Tampa or Kansas City was just going to go scat protection, they said, we don't need to blitz. We'll put those guys in coverage, not allow them the big play down the field that uh, you know, with the speed that they had, they walled that stuff off and then they horizontally, I should say because they do a lot of the stuff outside. They had those guys stay home. They ran a lot of two man and just made sure they didn't get beat deep.

And that was really the smelling sauce that they really put Kansas City to bed because he was under dress the entire game after that first series. Time to welcome in. Uh you know Jim Miller's aislematee on the Bears team flights back in the day. I mean literally a lot aisle mate Chris Valerio was in there too. Tom and I were in a row ahead of Oland and uh oh who sat back? Was that? David? Who was who

was next to you? Olan? Wait? Hold on, Now, this is not a podcast, right because these are the old stories. Now this is Yeah, I know we're gonna keep it. We're gonna keep Hey whatever Joe Rogan type stuff here, whatever happened is not going to be revealed. But you know we're just talking personnel. Tucker right, Retuck there there, This is the back of the plane, right, I think

Bobby Slater to a Tampa Bay Buccaneers head trainer. Now, I was back there with us, so we had we had a good crew back there, good crew, and I just you know that's when you did. This is when you listen twice as much as you speak. Back in the kind of the plane, Old Oland cruits the Bears, seven time Pro Bowls center joining us. Good to have you alongside. Thanks for taking out some time. We're still talking about the Super Bowl. You're here. You heard your

old quarterback. They're talking about it at the game. But the one thing that sticks out with me, and I know I was asked about this on Fox the other night. You know, would you consider dealing a player like Khalil

Mac to get the quarterback that you won? And I said a flat out no, because if you learn anything and you always learn it from Super Bowls, when the final two teams are there, or even the teams that wind their way through the playoffs, line a scrimmage, baby, you gotta have the pass rushers and you gotta have an O line. So it'll always be that way. It's a beginning end. You never have enough pass rushers, and the more you have, the better. So the Raiders. And

I just saw this today Oland from Pro Football Focus. Again, everybody has a different opinion about Pro Football Focus, but since dealing Mac thirty second twenty six and twenty fourth and pass pressure last three years, So you know the value of just even that one man. Yeah, we've got to see Khalil mac play here now for three years.

And that guy, if they're not turning the whole line to him and are changing their whole game plan to account for him, then he is getting pressure on the quarterback and he has men a lot to that Chicago Bears defense. But obviously when you say you wouldn't trade him for a quarterback, where it's always which quarterback are we talking about? Right? But the top quarterbacks Mahomes you would imagine watching and Russell Wilsons no matter what being said,

and Iron Rodgers. These guys are not getting out of your buildings unless the general manager wants to be remembered for being one of the dumbest general managers ever to work in the NFL. So you know, other than that, you're not trading Khalil Mack for guys who aren't of that level. Obviously of that caliber. And yeah, we saw it in the Super Bowl and I heard Jim talking about the Chiefs didn't adjust Daryl Williams, their third down back,

a really bad job of chipping throughout the game. It looks like he was more worried about getting out on his routes than actually helping Wiley. The right tackle the guy had Andrew Wiley, they had to move to right

tackle because of all of their injuries. They never adjusted to it, and I think a lot of it was just arrogance, because really, if you think about it, the only guy who has more pressures in the Super Bowl than Shaq Barrett is Nick Bosa from the Super Bowl the year before, and he was just constantly hounding Mahomes and they still won the game. So I think they just figured eventually they would get away with it. They didn't really adjust. It kind of caught up to them.

You start to wonder about all the things that Andy Reid has been going through with his son in that accident down there in Kansas City. When you watch that game plan, because look, most of us are parents, most of us have kids, and you can't tell me that does not affect you and affect the energy of the football team. You know, it was something that they just allowed to let Travis Kelsey catch the ball. You know they's not going to get a lot of yards after

the catch. They rounded them, and you know all those exterior plays, they kind of stopped them in their tracks the majority of the time. So you got to enjoy the way that Tampa Bay defensive backs and linebackers for that matter, trying to you know, control the physical part of the game. Yeah, for sure. And they were up there really early on those early RPOs, right, I mean, I'm sure Jim and Tom you said, Jeff, you saw it.

They were very aggressive trying to take those RPOs away on first and second down, really getting after those wide receivers, staying in their face, and like you said, Tom, really physical at the linebacker and defensive back positions. Uh, you know, really impressive. Whitehead playing with what we know was a really bad shoulder injury he got from causing that fumble up there in the Green Bay game. Winfield came back

from injury. Top Bows just had a really good plan and basically just dared Andy Reid to run the ball or we're gonna stay in this too deep safety looking Andy Reid never did, so they what they did just kept working. Actually, I heard Jim say, scat protection look versus that kind of front. I was an offensive lineman.

Tom was too. Five on five, somebody is going to lose, and even if you have a really good offensive line, if the New Orleans Saints are gonna go five on five verse the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive line with Jason Pierre, Paul Shack, Barrett Ghoston and in Vita veya back man many Tom if you, if you, if you go out to help the tackle, and I wonder them with Vita Vea me and you are probably arguing in the huddle

about that. I mean to give Andy credit. They came out the second half and they tried to run that first series, but they only got a field goal and then right but they got yards, right, they went away from it immediately. Yeah, they got yard on that track play. Yeah, they could scored a field goal in Tampa right away.

Had that big drive and I think it was a thirty six power play they ran oland because I remember seeing Ali Marpette poland to come around in Leonard Fournette ran for the touchdown, and at that point you and I both know your trade field goals for touchdowns and then they were kind of out of the run after that. But he didn't start the game really running the football.

What do you look at, Andy Reef and I think Jim, I gotta go watch it closer, and I'm sure you are too going to do it, but I think they were running that duel and then what everybody's doing now is you're running like an outside counter off of that duel. And you'll see the coach run that with Quinton Nelson a lot, and I think that's where they ran on that play. And obviously, like you know, we used to run duel back in two thousand and one. That was our play and the only way to stop it is

to load everybody in there. So the Chiefs came, everybody came flying downhill and there's a really nice call man by the Tampa Bay coaching staff, and it was almost a walk in the end, so a market leading away. Hey, Allen, Jim, I got that question for all to you guys. Six penalties in the first half by the DBS. Do you think these guys are watching the playoffs before the Super Bowl saying, man, they've been letting the play all playoffs, So let's be a little grabby early and just see

if we can slow him down. Or you think it was just bad defensive backplay, go ahead, No, I'm I'm gonna let the quarterback after I thought. I thought from that standpoint, the one I thought were legitimate early like rape before half when bashaw Brelan he somewhat did tackle Mike Evans and that game a big first down, and then they had a second one that was down in the goal line. I didn't think that was a penalty.

There was a seam route to Mike Evans. To me, that ball was uncatchable, but it was still it was on a first in goal. I think there was thirteen sex seconds left and a half. To me, it just all it did was created another first in goal situation, so it really would have been really second out. I didn't think that one was a catchable pass at all,

but I still think Tampa would have scored. But clearly the one on the tipped interception, you know there's a holding call on that particular play and it gets takes away that turnover. That one was somewhat suspect where you could say, hey, that was kind of a momentum changing play on that particular play, But they weren't disciplined enough. You know, people forget Tampa's got every bit of webs that Kansas City does. Granted they may not have the

team's speed at wide receiver like Kansas City does. But between Mike Evans, that's Scottie Miller. You got a Bees think about that. Antonio Brown's your fourth receiver off the off the bench. I mean, Godwin can play a fellas. We gotta take a quick break. Well, can you hang with us for a couple of minutes? All right, We're gonna take a quick break. This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to Score and the Chicago Bears Network presents Inside the Bears, brought to you

by Verizon. Anthony Adams and Lauren Screeden cover the world of Bears football on and off the field every Sunday night at ten thirty five on Fox thirty two Chicago, or watch anytime at Chicago Bears dot com or on the Bears official app with Tom There, Jeff Joniac. Our guests tonight, Jim Miller from Sirius Sex MNFL Radio and his old team Olden Cruitz, an expert analyst here on the Score as well. Olden, let's talk Bears in the defense and staff. We're gonna hear from Sean de Sai

on Monday. What do you want to hear from him in terms of the type of defense he plans on running and what aspects of it do you feel need to boost. Yeah, and I heard Tom mentioned earlier. You want to hear him talk about who his biggest influences, which we all imagine is Vic Fangio, because really none of us really know much about him, right And if you look at his background, you guys do. But I'm talking about guys on the outside of building. He's only

been a position coach for two years. He's coached the safety so I don't really know how many guys he has in his room every day. And he's never really called plays on defense unless I know, unless I miss a part of his year where he has. So none of us really know what he is except for people in that building, and they're really high on him. In former players, I hear them raving about him also, so

a lot of people high on him. But as far as what I would expect, I really don't know, to be honest, Jeff, I don't know what to expect from Sean Desai. I don't know what kind of defense is going to run. Where did they have to improve? Well, you hope they get back to that two and eighteen when they were taking the ball away when the team was plus twelve. Because since that year, they haven't been very good at it, right, they haven't taken the ball

away much since that. I think it's only been eighteen and nineteen the last two years, and they had around thirty six in two and eighteen, and that's a big difference. And then you want to hear what happened at the end of the year and what he's going to do to change that, because I think from the bye week on the Bears gave up twenty six points a game

and really, you know, thirty five and forty one. I think it was against the Green Bay Packers, which really worries you since that the guys up north obviously they hire Mike Petting to maybe get some information on how to slow that offense down that the Green Bay Packers do have, So, you know, to be a very honest and fair answer, I don't know what to expect from Sean Desai and the coaches after they have there now and what defensive to come out. I would imagine I'm

gonna see a lot of Vic Fangiel's principles. Try to get back to twenty eighteen to what they were doing. I know Eddie Goldman's coming back. That's really going to help the defense. Roquan Smith hopefully takes another step, and I want to hear definitely from him when he does get to the podium what he thought happened to Eddie Jackson the last couple of years and how we're going to get him back to being the best safety in

the game. Paul, And what about a team? You know, I mean you look at him and to talk about the conversation about Khalil Mack and when you point the direction of protection, a lot of time a Keems do his inside. So it's kind of through a team to Khalil Mack. You know, with Eddie Goldman there, you know you think that it's going to make him a better player. Does a Kicks have to make a Keem Hicks a

better player? Yeah? And am Keem Hicks is really the engine to this defense right when you watch that film on the inside, he gets after people, he's a physical presence. He brings the personality to this defense. Hopefully when you talk about the Chicago Bears in their pass rush, Hopefully next year we're a little farther along in this pandemic, we can get the fans back at Soldier Field and really get a home field advantage for a guy like

Quinn to come off the edge. But a Keem Hicks dominant player getting a little older obviously, but really is the bell call of this defense? Guys that people really worry about. Sometimes you wonder when you watch him, is he dealing with injuries? We heard about Matt dealing with injuries this year. We know that Quinn dealt with a

back last year. So if the Bears inside of that building can get their guys back to healthy and strong and feeling good and playing at the level you would expect from that front seven, because on paper, that is a dominant front seven. That's front seven that you get excited about in the same way you get excited about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who just wanted the Super Bowl.

So like you're talking about a Keem Tom and obviously we all enjoy watching him play when he gets after people, and he seems to be really aggressive out there sometimes I don't know if his knees bugging him or what. But I think just across that board, I hope this offseason. I know the string staff they have a good one there.

The nutrition staff, whoever is in that building, whoever's in those rows, I really hope they're getting on those guys about getting healthy, gaining shape, and getting ready for sixteen games this year. That way we can get out of that front seven what we paid for. Well, I'm with you on the defense. I think the consistency and continuity is going to stay there. You know, you go from Vic to Chuck and now Mike Penton. He was in that same Rex Ryan type of defense in Baltimore, So

I think that'll change stay the same. Have you been happy with the lack of running game by the Bears. I like the commitment towards the end of the season. I mean not a lot of times. David Montgomery has had over twenty carries I think eight total as a Chicago Bear. But is the offensive line serviceable enough and there's doesn't need to be more of a in the running game. Look at every team in the playoff fourteen of those teams I just said, ten of those teams

were you know, running the football extremely well. From Baltimore to Tampa to pretty much all those teams Green Bay, they all run the football extremely well, right, And there really hasn't been a commitment to the running game right. And we've heard coach Naggy now for a few years going into the off season and Ryan Pace last year saying that the offensive line was a problem, you know, and they fired coach he stand and they brought in

one Castell, another respective coach. But then they started to realize that maybe they have a talent deficit there. And obviously, obviously they lose James Daniels early in the year, who I thought was their best offensive lineman, really rising and coming along as a football player, so that really hurt them. Obviously hurt their running game. But you'd like to see Montgomery get the ball a little more. You'd like to

see him get a backup running back. That also puts a little fear in the defense because Cordarrell Patterson, we all have a ton of respect for him. He makes a defense, you know, the defense fears him. But he's just special teams guy, not really a second running back. And then Ryan Nall, so you can't really put suit up Jimmy Graham as you're starting tight end. Have Cordarrell Patterson, Ryan All and tell me you're serious about running the football.

So I'd like to see them run the football more. Obviously, this scheme that they try to run from Kansas City, you know, besides Mahomes, it seems to be a quarterback killer.

Doug Peterson just got fired. Wentz is on his way out of town in Philadelphia, so I know they tried to go a little bit more to this outside zone scheme later in the year, which Juan can Steele learned from Gary Kubiak down there in Baltimore and Rick Dennison the Kyle Shanahan Mike Shanahan outside zone boot scheme, and they ran the ball Moore, and there's some success into they face a little better defense, and so yes, I'd like to see him get a commitment to the run game, Jim,

but probably, like you, I really don't care how you put the ball in the end zone. The Bears problem is they don't score a lot of points. And I think in the last thirty eight games this offense is only average about twenty eight twenty points a game. And guys, that is with that four game stretch where they average thirty five points a game, So if you take that away,

they're under like eighteen and nineteen points a game. And interestingly enough, I think that coach nag I think he brought coach Petting into to ask him what he's doing to stop his offense. And I think that's where he's coming into. They've only averaged eighteen points a game against the Green Bay Packers, kind of like what Sean McVay is done down there. Vic Fangiel stopped his offense, so he brought in Staley and talked to Stalely about, hey man,

how do I beat your defense? What concepts should I want run? What schemes? So maybe that's also why it's a good idea to get petted in that building. All right, boys, we gotta take a break, Jim, Thank you so much. We'll talk to you next week at all. And it's a it's a league of connecting the dots, and you just connected a bunch of them. Isn't it time those skeletons on the plane, let's not. Let's not the megaphone. We will never bring that up. Well never what megaphone?

I didn't see any megaphone? Boys. All right, thanks all, and come back sometime, will you all? Incrues Jim Miller, let's take a break with Tom there. I'm Jeff Jonia This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access. We're brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at IGS dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world. Good to have Jim Miller and all Incrues on together, Tommy talking Bears football

and the Super Bowl. Really could have kept on going with that, but a lot to discuss because of the off season, and you and I we talked about this last week, we talked about it several weeks ago, maybe even on the broadcast of our last game in the playoffs. But the off season program. I've been reading some things and as soon as I guess what in sixteen days or fifteen days, they're gonna they're gonna go to Exos.

The athletic training. It's high level training for all all sports and all athletes at every level, including professional but Arizona, Texas and Florida. Apparently this is the plan. They're going to do a combine style event training with more than one hundred and thirty players going into the draft. So Mark Dominic, the former Tampa Bay executive, and Don Gregory, who was a Panther's scout and also they're scouting director.

They're gonna set this up, they're gonna they're gonna run it just like a combine and try to get some sort of base that they're used to, because the thing about the combine is you everything for decades is the same. Your environment is the same. Subtle adjustments, but it's the same, and that's where you lean. As somebody wrote about it today, I think Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated with they're your guardrails for scouts and analysts, so that you can compare

athletes over decks from the same pool of information. Yeah, you know, it's kind of unfair that they minimalize it down to those couple of days because it's about your preparation for months. So what that combine does it gives you an indication of how much you're working, how hard, and how much effort that you're putting into it to

have the opportunity to be evaluated. And then we've seen guys every year that have high expectations that come in and disappoint you, whether it's a lack of strength on a bench press or it's a slow forty time and some guys are they have the ability to overcome that because they're just so talented or some of them, the guys they fall in the draft and they have to reprove themselves. So you know, I listen, it was different

when I came out of college. We had to go do three different combines and do that same event three different times during the course of a couple of months. So it is different. It has changed. But to me as a player, when I got there and I noticed that a guy was deficient in his strength or he really you know, you could you could almost talk to his personality and know that he was less dedicated to

the game than you. Yeah, it gives you a little bit more hands on approach, but it's proved a point and how well they're ready to go to the combine. And then there's this tug of war about the offseason should it be similar to last year? There are football people who disagree that spring is unnecessary, and I think players are saying it, and because the season was successful, But if you really look at it, and this will take some time, you gotta go piece by piece. Did

the young players suffer from it without an offseason? And will they suffer from it if they have a second season of no offseason, the veterans probably love it because those young guys might take some jobs. Those jobs may be safer. Who knows. Well, let's look at two opposite ends of the spectrum. Because there were such high expectations when they drafted Jalens that he was going to have

to come in and play. But did we know that he was going to play like that, perform at a first game level and be a starter and you know, have good performances? Is because of it? You know, he didn't have a lot of time to be prepared. But

now let's look at the quarterback position. If we would have had OTAs, if we would have had five games or preseason, would the battle of Nick Foles and Mitchell Schubisky ben differently decided at the start of the season because Mitch had an advantage when they went to training camp. He was more familiar with the system, with the terminology and I know everything that Nick claimed in terms of being familiar with the coaches in the offense and stuff. Still,

you know, you'll look at guys like that. Jalen Johnson didn't need a lot of time, but he didn't have a lot of time, Nick had more experience around the NFL and the quarterback in the systems, and you know, you just weren't a lot of a lot of the realistic amount of time that for all these generations of players that we talk about, they've always had the sa

am amount a preseason time to be prepared. All right, Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty when I wanted to ask those guys because they faced these players old in particular, but Alan Fannicut a guard. So you're bowing to that right now. I know you love that Tom floor is the great coach of the Raiders, Calvin Johnson, John Lynch, Peyton Manning, of course, Drew Pearson finally gets in from Dallas, Charles Woodson, that was a no brainer.

And then a scout a contributor. This is what I love because there are some guys in this league that have put together a great resume. Bill Nunn of the Pittsburgh Steelers definitely did thirty seconds. What's your thoughts on the Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty one? Impressive? All those guys are super talented, they are great performing

at a high level. Or even a guy like Calvin Johnson, then never had the opportunity to perform at the highest level, but he's still considered one of the best players in the history of the league. You get more talent around surrounded by some of these guys, and maybe their careers would have been differently. Now we gotta get Clyde Emrick in the Hall of Fame, strength coach in the history the NFL. If there's anybody deserving up being in the NFL,

it's Clyde Emery. I like it with a charter franchise in the league. That makes total sense to me. Tom, We're wrapped up for this week. Thank you so much. Enjoy the sunshine, Go Bears. All right, that's Tom Thair. Thanks to Jim Miller from Sirius x M NFL Radio on Olden Cruits for their time tonight. Our producers Jordan trut Up, Dan Balley, Brandon Fryer, new to the experience today, Herb Lawrence, Shane Reardon. Thank you as always and most

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