Insights from the Senior Bowl | All Access Podcast

Happy Wednesday night, everybody. I'm Jeff Jonny Ac along my broadcast partner from news radio one oh five nine WBBM. The Chicago Bears Super Bowl winning guard Tom Fair, who wants upon a time, would have loved to ben in Mobile, Alabama this week, getting ready, getting reps, getting those one on ones big time against those defensive linemen. Working your craft, working your hands, working your technique. How you doing, man,

I'm doing good, you know. And I just think about the big difference because we talked a little bit about last week when I went to the Hula Ball. Hula Bowl is an all star game and you really don't have the preparation responsibilities that you do at the Senior Bowl. And so as I was glued to my TV today

and I was watching the Senior Bowl practices. I was kind of putting myself in the mind of these guys in the seriousness of football at this time in their life is bigger than any game they've ever played in so far. College is behind them, bowl games are behind them. All the other stuff now that is leading up to their future is meaningful in terms of the snaps and everything.

And you know, it's it's nice to sit there and watch on TV, but you got to realize, this is the first time in our football life that as a bear, you could sit out here and you could say, we can have any one of these guys, any one of these guys we want, we can have. And it's kind of funny because some of the superstars aren't there obviously, but I saw a lot of players that I got

a lot of interest in. Right, we'll go down that list throughout the course of the show, headed down there on Saturday to call that game for Sirius XM NFL Radio. We'll be joined by Jim Miller, will be one of

my partners on that day. In our next segment, we'll also got on the mobile and talk with the athletics Kevin fish Paine, who is kind enough to spend some time with us as well as we take a look at some of the guys, and you're projecting because because you know the schemes now of the Bears, you know the offense and defense. Nothing's changed, nothing's changed in terms of coordinators, so the schemes are gonna be the same. We know what they look for in a Bear. We

know what a Bear is supposed to look like. Now. Matt Eberflus and Ryan Bull set that foundation, and so now you're just trying to look at these guys, say, but you know, I can't help myself, like you can't have everybody, But boy, you want a lot of these guys, you'd like them right now. And we haven't even you know, started talking about free agency. And this is not a group of first rounders. There will be something. They'll be

second rounders, they'll be third rounders. But there's gonna be guys that are gonna go undrafted from this senior Bull you'd like on your roster, you know. Funny Also outside the personnel and looking at the different position players, I feel I'm getting to know Luke Getsy better because I haven't seen an isolation camera on him during the course of any practice that we've ever seen him at the Chicago Bears, and so now you get a little bit

of an insight of his coaching personality. And it's kind of fun to watch that, because you know, I don't think there will be another time that they'll have a camera on him at a Bears practice, following him around with an open mic. So I'm enjoying that part of it too, But also I enjoy looking at all the different personnel because I almost feel like one of the players.

Because when I was listening to the terminology of the plays today that when they were calling an offense, I again was thinking about these guys how difficult it is to try to understand what they're saying in the huddle within a couple day period of time. And you see the mistakes, You see the adjustments of the quarterbacks need to make and stuff. But then you want to see those mental mistakes minimal eyes by the time the game gets here, because that's one thing you can have of

evaluation of yourself as a bunch of mental errors. My eyes are not moving very far from the line of scrimmage. I just want to see what is available in the trenches. Both sides of the ball. Looking at both of those and the rest of it will fall into place. For me. That's where my eyes are going. I'm certain the same applies to you now. I'm looking at everything else too, but my sincere, fierce focus is on the trenches. It's well, it's got to be if you really want to take

an example from this past weekend's football games. In no matter how big the quarterback positions were for all of them, it really came down to the play of the offense and defensive line in the winning and the losing team.

So you'd be a little naive to think that you had everything set up for next year going forward, because this is a team that you know you could you would welcome as many as those offense and defensive lineman as you could get here to get involved in the competition and hopefully, you know, get a future position and that we've seen what Braxon Jones was capable of doing. That nobody's out of the competition once they get here. That's Tom Fair. I'm Jeff Joniak, our producer tonight on

our Score Studios. Adams Didzinski is always thanks to Dan Billy and Jordan drud Up as well, we're brought to you by Igs Energy again, Jim Miller to join us and also Kevin Fishbain from the Athletic Couple and news items today, our old pal John Hulk coming back to the Bears cornerback coach and passing game coordinator with James Roe headed to South Florida, the University of South Florida

as a defensive coordinator down there. But love big John, outstanding guy, tough coach, got a whole guy's accountable back there in the secondary. That's the way he rolls. He has the familiarity obviously in this scheme with with Lovey Smith and the Tampa two and the different aspects of it. But he was with Atlanta last season. He's been around for forty one years in coaching, has been a long time, and it's he still brings the fire. Oh you know, I love John. I was really excited to see that

he's bringing brought back aboard. We did get to see and talk to him in the Atlanta game. And it's still a guy that I really think he loves the time that he's spent here in Chicago in his past coaching stops, and I think he's a real asset to the defensive backfield of this team. A new quality control coach on offense, Zach Cable comes Aboard has been spent some time with the Raiders. Also was a player at Wyoming.

Omar Young, who's been on the Bear staff this past season, is now assistant quarterback coach and receivers coach, helping out in nav Regarding Carlos Suber does a great job up there helping the players. Has been given the title of Director of Wellness. There are some other positions as well, including our man Pierre in the strength and conditioning department. Time we love him. He's got a passion for this

organization as well. Yeah, well, you know, Pierre's coming back to be an assisting part of the weight room staff over there, and he believes in lifting heavy weights and getting guy stronger. He's raised around plenty of influences around the NFL, and no bigger than the weight room he'll

be working in in the Clyde Emrick weight Room. And so I think it's exciting for all these guys to get back involved in the new campus of Hollis Hall and get a chance to see what the Bears have grown into since the time the short time they've been gone, and whilst also significant is there, there wasn't a massive

change even after one year. Oftentimes units get you know, jumbled up, there's changes made, guys get taken away for other jobs, and that did not happen this year, which I think is important for the continued development and the

continued building of this team. For the one and most important player of all is Justin Fields and I keep saying a time and time again that the opportunity to live and stay within the same terminology helps you improve as a player more than anything that a coach can kind of tell you or give you hints how to get better at on the football field. So to me, of all these coaches that are coming back, I'm glad that the terminology terminology for Justin is in place. All right.

Tom Brady retired today, the passing of Bobby Bethard, one of the best personnel. Men met him many times. Complete gentlemen. Love the game, love surfing, love surfing. We'll get into that a little bit as well, And Jim Miller will join us when we come back with Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Joniac. This is Bears on Access. It's brought to you by IGS Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Welcome back to Bears. All access is brought

to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at igs dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world. Jeff Joniac, Tom Thayer here on the score. And it's a better world when Jim Miller's in it from sirius x M. NFL radio's moving the change, getting his h He's getting his phil of football right now covering conference championship game and now down in Mobile, Alabama, after he just completed his work on serious sex. M Jim, how you feeling, buddy, I'm doing great, Tom, Jeff,

good to be with you guys today. You had some travel issues this week, right, you're all settled down now, did you just you know down? Yeahs. Every flight in America getting delayed right now, So delays were definitely. I know some gms down here that at flew commercial and they got delayed, like Scott Fitterer was late getting into today. Obviously they were announcing Frank Roik as a new head coach of the Carolina Panthers, but did interview Scott Fitterer today.

But even he said he was delayed, so it's not just pertaining to just me, but yeah, it was rough getting a mobile. All right. We start with this because you were a teammate of his. Uh. The immaculate career of Tom Brady comes to a close twenty three years, seven titles, five Super Bowl MVPs, three regular season MVPs, records galore, including six hundred forty nine touchdowns, and he retires after being the third highest passing yardage total in

the league this past season in twenty five touchdowns. I mean amazing. And I guess it was going to end sometime. And the suspicion was that he might consider or other teams would consider him elsewhere, but he pulled up in earlier this morning. Any thoughts on that surprises We'll start with you, Jim and go to town. Well, no, I'm not surprised. I think it could have gone either way. I think he's been fighting this decision for a long time.

Certainly it took a personal toll on him last year, as you know, their family and everything that they went through there, and I think he's given all that he can give. You know, it is such a big commitment. The older you get, Um, he does have other opportunities to do other things, and so he came to it that it was it was the right time for him. Do I think he can still play, Yes, I do think he can still play. Now. Kenny positioned himself to get on a team where he feels he could make

a championship run. I don't think that team is Tampa, and that's probably where he turned to because they've got some overhauling that they need to do. This was kind of their window with Tom Brady here, and I think that windows starting to close a little bit. So all I can say for Tom is everything that all the adulation that is thrown at him, and it is well deserved. He is an extremely hard worker. How he prepares for games, he is all in. I've never seen anybody prepared to

the standard that he prepares himself. And I think he's genuine and I think he's authentic. So I just I tip my cap to him. He will be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and he has deserved everything that he has accomplished just due to his work ethic. You know one thing about players like Tom Brady, and you know, I think of Michael Jordan, I think of Lebron James, these guys that play well into their late thirties and

their forties. I don't think a lot about what they do on game day because I think once the season gets started, you kind of fall into a routine, in a rhythm that starts the first game of the regular season and last all the way to the last game of the regular season. The most amazing thing about me about his long term greatness is their commitment to the

off season. And if you understand what you have to do in the off season in order to get your body for the regular season, there is nothing fun about it. Is you have to have the willingness to go to a squat rack and take six hundred pounds off of it and hope that your knees don't give away once you unlock them. To start doing reps there, you got to try to accomplish a five hundred pound bench. That maybe be unrealistic, but that's what you have to try

to accomplish. So all these years of service that Tom Brady is put into the off season that goes unaccounted for, I think it's fatiguing and taxing and anything that he's done on the football field as a football player. His commitment to the off season is what impresses me the most. All Right, Jimmy played quarterback, Tommy played offensive line. There are things that these guys, the greats of the game, can do that you can't despite the fact you want

to and your mind thinks you can. Both you guys, h how do you what's the one thing about Tom Brady that you, Jim have analyzed over the course of the time being with him, being in those meeting rooms and observing him as you have your entire football life that still impressed you to this meant like, what specific thing about the way he played the game? Well, for what Tom touched on is the commitment, you know, in

in preparing yourself. And it can't just be all in one area, you know, because you're trying to maximize your areas of weakness and you're still trying to build your strengths and things like that. But for me, it was preparation. I'll go back to Super Bowl thirty nine. In the week or the two weeks part to that. We we went down and we beat h Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. We had to go into three rivers and beat that team.

Tom had a terrible flu all right. He had one hundred and three degree temperature and was not feeling well. It was even questionable that he was going to play in the game. But I remember early in the morning he calls me and Rohan Davy said, Hey, let's just go down to the to the room and let's go over all these plays one more time. Let's think of all blitzes that could they could throw at us, and I want to go through all the scenarios. And we

did that, and he was sweating profusely. He was getting, you know, drinking as many fluids as he could. He played the game with a basically a dry suit on to keep all his heat in because it was so cold. It was like minus thirteen degrees at that game. But we did. He has the ability to focus when you're not one hundred percent. And as Tom will tell you, everybody knows you're not always going to feel good when you play football. And here he was sick on top

of it. It's the day or it's the game prior to the to the Super Bowl, and he knows he's got to be at his best. But his commitment, even fighting through a sick and what he wanted to do to prepare to win that game, and he was. He was brilliant in that game. Guys. I mean, I don't think he made one mistake. We went over every single blitz. Sure enough, Steelers ran every single blitz that they could run at Tom that day, and he he was just masterful. So I for me, that's what I'd take out of him.

His greatness one. His preparation and when you need to be at your best for your team in any big time situation, he was always prepared. And that's why he makes it look easy. The good ones, the great players make it look easy, and Tom made it look easy that night. Tom, do you have an offensive lineman that you could put on that same kind of Brady esque like, Wow, I can't believe what this individual can do down in and down out year after year. Um, I don't think so.

As long as I'd like to sit here and think about guys that have recently played, you know, into their seventeen the eighteenth year. It's so different than a quarterback, and you think of Jim talking about his pregame preparation and yeah, you're an offensive lineman. You have to know your responsibility and protection and every run play but you don't have to know the responsibility of every eleven all the eleven defensive players that you're facing, and they can

make changes throughout the cadence. So from what Brady has been able to accomplish, Listen, we're not talking about tons of guys here. We're talking out a handful of guy from spread out sports that have been able to accomplish what Tom Brady has been able to accomplish. So, you know, could I sit here and think of guys like Darryl Green, who played cornerback for a long time with the Washington

Commanders Redskins at the time. No, it doesn't. It doesn't compare to me because Brady was able to accomplish what he's been able to accomplish for such a long period of time. And then but two was also when he got the notification about being a player. It's not something you prepare for. Hey, Drew bledsoe just got jacked in the chest. You're in so you know what, It's not like you get to sit there and look at the tablet for twenty minutes and then say, all right, coach,

I'm ready to go in. I think I got it. That's where you and Tom are on the same page because that happened to you in the eighty five season in Minnesota, same thing, and you never left the lineup. Right, there's the tieing again, you know it's not there is no tie. And compared to what Brady was able to do, the pressure that he was under, and then what he did in the future of that opportunity, ZGM. I try to give an offensive linement a compliment, they just can't

take it. They won't. They won't accept it. They never will. And that's the way they're built. They're too humble, and that's why they're the smartest guys on the team. All Right, we gotta take a break, guys, we'll start getting into the Bears and what is ahead as they get ready for this offseason of significance. This is Bears All Access here in Chicago's Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome back, everybody to Bears All Access here in Chicago Sports Radio

six seventy the Score. Jeff Joni Act, Tom Fair, and I guess from serious x M NFL radios, Moving the chains. Jim Miller and our good friend and your teammate, Oland Cruz. Jim just texted Bruce Matthews. We're talking about longevity, excellence, things that Brady ish and he did play a sixteen game season at the age of forty with the Tennessee Titans. You know, one that's your classmate. He's my era man,

he's my my draft classmate. You know, USC guy, I'm ashamed that I forgot that, and I you know, well, I'm sure, yeah, I'm glad Oland's listening because, uh if Oland will remember when we played Washington in Washington at that point, they picked up Bruce Smith and he was a problem for us that day. I think it was his nineteenth year in the NFL, and that was the game where bread mate who ran the fake punt right

and it hits the lacquer for a touchdown? Yeah, that's old field or the fake Fiel goal and uh hit the hit the the touchdown, and Bruce was a problem. Man. I remember walking in a half to time. I said, man, Bruce, you still have it. I mean he was really working the guys up front. And as we know, Oland's tremendous and Chris Phalerio and Tucker, I mean, those guys are as strong as anybody, but they'll even tell you he

was a handful that day for Bruce Smith. I just want to just go back in time because you're talking about the last game after nineteen years. Well, a very first game. We played him at Notre Dame Stadium in a preseason game and he was like three hundred and something pounds. He was a big, huge, rollie poly guy that was so out of shape. The grass was so long at Notre Dame Stadium he could barely pick his feet up off the grass. I think he ended up

getting hurt or something. And then that's we're like going, oh my god, this is Bruce Smith, no way. And then he met Rusty Jones was introduced to the StairMaster. In his career completely changed because of it. Great stuff. This Segota Bears all access brought to you by Athletical Physical Deraby. Visit Athletico dot com to request an employment

in clinic or virtually and start feeling better tomorrow. All right, let's talk Bears because Luke Getsi, the head coach of the American team during Senior Bowl activities, the offensive coordinator of the Bears. They had the breakfast meeting. Were you at the breakfast meeting today? I did not go to the breakfast meeting today, but I was over here at the stadium about ten o'clock is when the festivities get started over here. Yeah, you don't need to give me

the time, you know. I know you slept into Tad then apparently, but you know, I trust you. I trust that you're doing the work. But the breakfast meeting was at eight thirty gym eight thirty and the media breakfast. So what I'm driving at is he did get a chance to talk to the Chicago media. I don't have that audio right now, but jim a lot of it.

Everybody wants to know what the plan is now for Justin Fields and the idea that people are on Internet and Twitter going crazy about scenarios including would they move him, would they keep them and bring somebody else into compete at the quarterback position? What can they do with this draft now in terms of trades and how to how to work that. The plan is simple, keep working at it and keep developing and keep building around him. That

that's my perspective, what's yours? And then Tom? Yeah, I think you know, when you look at Ryan Poles, I think they are committed to Justin Fields. He did a lot of great things this year. Certainly he's got the the eye popping runs, but we know there still needs to be work to do in the passing game, and I think Ryan Poles has acknowledged that. I think Louke Getzi has acknowledged that. Mad Eberflus, and I think even Justin Fields knows the passing games gotta get better. You know,

you don't want to be a one dimensional team. In those are all areas that the Bears are going to look forward. You look forward to improving because as we know, this is a passing league primarily, and you do have a ton of these athletic quarterbacks that are really changing of the position and just with their athleticism and how they were incorporated into offensive game plans nowadays. And I

think the Bears are looking for that. I thought they laid a nice foundation for Justin Fields last year and now they're going to continue to build it out and keep working at it. As as you mentioned, you know, one thing about Justin two is I don't think he's excluded from having competition behind him. So whether you know Luke Etsy's looking at who he's looking to, it's about

got to be about that. You got to bring in a person that they believe that can create competition at the position and push the guy in front of him and hopefully capitalize on your own opportunity. And I think Justin's willing to stand up against any competition they bring in here against them, and just like any other guy

on this football team should be. I don't think there's very many guaranteed starters right now on this roster, and so I think the competition is you know, Luke Getsy's got to be looking at every player on this football team, and every offensive player most certainly fellas you interested in having a quarterback in similar traits to Justin to be

the backup I am. I think you know, it's kind of there was a big contrast this year, you know, when Trevor Simeon got in there, the style of offense kind of changes, you know, and I think we know for Nate Peterman. You know, these guys are I thought it, but they're nowhere nearer to the same skill sets of what Justin Fields bring to the table. Baltimore, look at

the direction they've gone in. They actually not only did they draft Lamar Jackson and then they went out and drafted Trace McSorley, mcsorley's no longer there, but he ran a similar type of offense at Penn State, and now he's out there in Arizona because why because Kyler Murray went down. They wanted a similar style of offense with Trace McSorley out there. So I do think there is merit to bring it in the guy that has similar

skill sets or traits as Justin Fields. They may not be as athletics what Justin Fields is because he's off the charts, but kind of your offense wouldn't really change if he goes down due to injury, and I think it did change quite a bit when the other two quarterbacks were in there. You know, I just want to see the whoever comes in here to compete has the you know, the reality that if they can develop that

they can play. I don't want to take a flyer on a guy that may be a little too short to really be a starter, but he's got athleticism so he plays the position similarly. I would like guys that can come in here and if it is going from a tray last to a Jimmy garoppolo to a party, that every one of these guys have the skill set to run the offense according to how the offensive play caller sees fit. So yeah, I would like to see someone come in here with similar traits to Justin because

I think that they can compliment each other. They can talk about the game and similarities in the way they're seeing it and it will help both of their developments. Of the six quarterbacks last year, five out of the Senior Bowl actually took snaps in the NFL last season. There are six quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl this week. We'll get a feel for where they're at from Jim Miller, along with our guests coming up here in moments, Kevin Fishbaine from The Athletic. We'll step away here on Bears

All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The score. This second of Bears All Access is brought to you by c d W. People to get it, Jeff Jonyan, Tom Fair, and Jim Miller from Serious Sex MFL Radios. Moving the chain the former Chicago Bears quarterback down in Mobile where I'll probably running to Kevin fish Paine, the outstanding NFL writer for The Athletic. I'm sure you guys will frequent the same joints. Kevin, Thanks for taking the

time out of your busy day. What do you see today that looks h What do you see today that looks good? In Bears callers, Luke Getzy's having a ball, guys. He's really enjoying the opportunity. And it's it's fun too for him because he gets to the head coaching experience and he gets to evaluate these guys and see what they're taking from the meeting room out of the field. So it's been kind of cool to watch him run practice. And you guys know this too. But a name that

Bears fans don't probably know is Carlos Polk. He is the Bears assistant special teams coach and he's a special teams coordinator for the national team. Out here. He is loud, he is enthusiastic. He is jumping up and down. If you ever watch a Bears game on the sideline you see someone running up and down, it's probably him. And you can hear him when sign for the special team's drills for the national team. So I think Mattiberflus is

down here. I think he's probably pretty proud of his colleagues, and Ryan Pols is probably pretty pleased that he's going to get a little bit of extra insight from his guys. Hey, Kevin, looking forward throughout the week of practices and then onto the game. It seems like every year there's a guy down there that has some type of size or unmeasurables or traits or just making you know himself where because of I don't know the way he looks, the way

he plays unusual for the size of the position. Is there any of those guys yet, right now, right yet that are being talked about this far in advance of the game. Yeah, Tom, I'll give you a couple of guys who've stood out who will probably be labeled as under size. And I'll start with Nathaniel Dali's a wide receiver from Houston. He's listed guys. They measured him in five eight and one hundred and sixty three pounds, But of all the receivers here, he's probably stood out the most.

And he's on gets his team, and he's quick and he's got some nice route running. And that's gonna be one where you know, if you're gonna have to look at the tape and kind of decide, you know, do you want to take a guy that might be prototypically under size, but if he's gonna produce, if he's gonna get open, he's gonna catch passes thrown his way. And I'll give you a local guy too in that realm.

I don't know if you guys know this. I'm a little bit of a Northwestern guy, So I'm always keeping an eye on those players out of Tammia at a bare defensive defensive end who slides inside the three tech in the sub package six two, you know, kind of reminds me a little bit of Justin Jones in that he's a little shorter than you might like, but my goodness, his quickness off the snap really impressive, and he's the type of guy that's gonna have really impressive combine pro

day numbers. So it's kind of the same thing as how do you align that with the college production, with the fact that he's just not maybe the ideal heightened length for the position, But you can't ignore some of those those gifts that he has well. Feldman freak by the way, six eighty five squat in a four ten bench press for those who are interested, a body like a barrel. Jim Miller, as we look at him, what else do you see out there. Yeah, well, I like

Keano Benton from Wisconsin too. I mean that guy's he's really had a good first couple of days here, I think, and he's held up well. He's very obviously well coached under Jimmy Leonard in that style of defense that the Wisconsin Badgers uh really run. I love what you said about Nathaniel Dell. He had a steam route for a post or for a touchdown. Today he looks as quick as anybody out here. And it's it's not all about the size, because we know undersized guys like Tyreek Hill

have thrived in the NFL. It was interesting, Kevin, because before you came on, we were thinking about quarterbacks. You know, do you want the same skill sets of all your quarterbacks? And we're you know, you look at Justin Fields and his skill sets so athletic. Probably the one guy down here that maybe the Bears would look at, I would think it would be Malika Cunningham from from Louisville. It's not the most decorated group of quarterbacks that are down here.

I wish Jell Levitts would have would have committed to this game. But what did you think of Malie Cunningham from Louisville. Yeah, you know, I was glad to see Malie Cunningham was coming to this game, Jim, because of what you just said, Because like that is somebody that you could you could see them. You know, if he was a Bear's back up, you you wouldn't have to hopefully change up too much of the scheme because you

can still take advantage of some of those design runs. So, you know, I think that that group of quarterbacks, you know, he's kind of leading it, has certainly looked the best. Um it's obviously you know hen and hookers down here, which is a nice experience for him to get to talk to teams, but of course he's not able to participate because the ACL But I wonder with him again, another guy who can move a little bit um really

productive that this year at Tennessee. Does he impress coaches this week what he's doing on the white board and the way he's kind of handling those interviews. Obviously medical

is gonna be number one with him. But yeah, Milick, that's one I want to see him in the game too, you know, kind of in the in the game situation, what they've lined up, you know, Luke Getsy was telling us today, guys that and Jim sure you know this, that they end each quarter with a two minute drill, so you know they were doing a little extra two

minute work the Getzy's team today. So that's gonna be kind of fun for these quarterbacks, m for all these teams because we know, you know, everything's flying, you don't know who's coming from where to see how these guys kind of handle those two minute rolls in the game this weekend. Hey, Kevin, So when you're rubbing elbows with Luke Getsy, the head coach of an All Star game, but then you talk to him on a weekly basis during NFL season, is there a different side of Luke

that you're seeing? Because when I was watching him on TV with the open mic and you see you kind of get to hear a lot more of his personality that you know, we don't get to see during the course of the regular season if you're not out of practice. So are do you see a different side of him? And do you feel that you know there's a little bit more exposure to him out here? Yeah? I do,

I think there is. I mean, that's been again the kind of fun bonus for those of us who are here to get to know him better, to get to be in this a little bit more of a casual setting, not buttoned up, you know, obviously, you know, I really appreciated Getsy throughout this season, was very upfront with us, very matter of fact, what's going on, whether it was positive or negative about the team, and was never you know, didn't take umbridge with certain questions when when things weren't

going as well as he wanted, and would you know, have a little fun. And you're seeing more and more of that. I think this is somebody, he said to us, He those guys. I'm not going to be out there yelling and screaming and tackling guys, but I like to bring some juice to my practice. And he ended the first practice with a competition, you know, offense versus defense. Loser does push ups, and he really wanted to put

an emphasis on these players having fun. I mean, these guys are just so tightly wound because to them it's this big job audition, which it is, but but he's really trying to get them to kind of loosen up and have them take after him a little bit. So I think it's it's good for him, good for Bears fans, good for NFL fans to kind of see that personality because guys, you know, and maybe a little bias from being around him this week, certainly some recency bias, but

obviously being around him in the building. But the guy's probably gonna be a head coach one day, and that's what that's why this is so important for him. So I think all these things are important for him to get that onto a larger platform, more people kind of see the type of person he is. Kevin Fishbaint our guest here from the Athletic on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Jim, you can take it away, but I got one thought real quick, and maybe you can

answer this better. Dwan Jones, who is? He can blot out the sun? He is just massive six eight and an eight three seventy five the right tack o from Ohio State on in Indianapolis was just burying guys into the ground yesterday did not work today. What's his story? I texted Jim Nagy and as supposedly he's got a legitimate injury. I'm sorry, Kevin, go ahead and fill in the dots. There no Jim, that was perfect because you

had the information that I was looking for yees. So he you know, I noticed because he was he was so dominant the first day and I got up, got here early and noticed he wasn't even on the field. He wasn't even dressed, And I said, man, maybe you know, we know agents can step in and some guys don't play in the game. And if you dominate early in the week of practice, some guys elect to just shut it down, say hey, I've done enough and that's all

I'm gonna do. But I texted Jim Nagy from up here in the in the booth and he said, no, he's got a legitimate injury, and uh, you know, so that he's going to sit out today and we'll see if he's returns tomorrow. But one thing I was going to ask you, Kevin, is for Luke Getsy, because this is different this year. Normally they designate two staffs, like obviously the Patriots and Falcons are doing the Shrine Bowl, this staff for Luke Getsy. There's got to be a

level of trust involved. Did Luke Getzy talk about that, because it said like an assortment of coaches that he may or may not have familiarity with that. Are that really comprised his staff as a you know, all both staffs on each side in the American and National or like an all star team of coaches, so to speak from all different organizations. Yeah, yea. One of the things he said Jim about that from a positive standpoint, what he likes about he's learning stuff from these guys. Um,

he's able to take some things from them. Um, you know, I think it might have been different if it was just the full Bear staff. He's not going to be able to because he really wanted to walk around to every position, go to every meeting room. Kind of what if Matt Eberflus does at Hollis Hall and be present? That was his big theme the wise he wants to be present. Well, if he was doing that with all the Bears coaches, he would probably not learn a whole

lot because he knows all these guys. He does have Dave Borganzi here, the Bears linebackers coach. Tim Zez has kind of been his right hand man, who's the Bears assistant tight ends coach, So he's been helping him out a lot. But I think for him, you know, there a couple of Packers coaches are on staff, so certainly

he's got a connection with those guys. But I think he's really appreciating that he's getting all these different perspectives from these coaches and to continue to learn and kind of build his own portfolio when it comes to the field of coaching Kevna. When you look at the offensive defensive line town probably the biggest need for the Bears going into this season. Is there any guys that the people are gravitating towards their name that maybe be that

special second or third rounder. I've seen a couple of them in one on ones that I could see that may not be a first rounder, but are going to be, you know, early candidates to play in their career. Yeah, the name that's flashed or the guy's flashed the most to me, Tims will McDonald from Iowa State the addresser. I'm sure Jeff knows him a little bit. And this guy spin move he showed, he showed that today he did.

You know, It's funny. What I loved too about about that today, Jeff was it was his second rep in a row. The first rep went around the edge, next one did the spin move to kind of show the arsenal a little bit, but he's got the length, he's got the tenacity. Um you really he has popped both practices. So that's someone from it. And you know, I think we'll be talking about it for the next three months about how much of it helped the defense to get not one, not two, not you know, three, new address

or whatever you need to bolst that defensive line. So he's definitely the guy in terms of making plays from that defensive front um that stood out to me the last two days. All Right, keV, we're gonna let you go any other five thoughts before we says there's a lot of Chicago not a lot, but several Chicago area kids. The one that has caught my attention in terms of his ability to run routes. You mentioned Nathaniel Dell, but I'll tell you some great route running by Jaden Reid

out a Naperville Central in Michigan State. He started at Western Michigan in his career, did pretty well with twenty six touchdowns in a fourteen yard average out of Michigan State. But dangerous with the route running. And he's got some size at nearly five eleven. Yeah, no, he stood out too. He's looked pretty good, looks the part, quickness, and obviously,

as he mentioned, really productive throughout his college career. Another local guy who I'm curiously what happens within the draft because I'm not sure if his sizes there is John

Michael Schmidt's the center from Minnesota. Hey, guys, you know, we all know the history of centers in Chicago, and I think if anybody, if you're him and you grew up in the area and you grew up watching you know, for him, he cried, grew up watching Oland and you know, you go, you know, older guys and they watched Garza and or they go way back and they watched Jay.

You know, you go through it. I think that it's it's always fun to me to see the Chicago guys who play center, who make it to this level, and to see if they could make it into the NFL, because we know it's a bit of a hollowed position with this team. Sure is home with Flosphmore High School, and he looked really good six four three twenty. We'll discuss more of that as we continue on. We got a long way until the draft, Kevin. They were just getting started and It's already a lot of fun. Thank

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I'm Jeff jony Ac along with Tom Thayer and Jim Miller from Serious Sex MNFL Radios moving the chains. Jeff, I have a question, is there um I think we're you know, looking at the backup for justin, looking at the need for offensive defensive linemen. You know what position are we ignoring almost this far in advance of the draft, because you know you're still talking about, you know, some

depth at the linebacker position, need a defensive back. But I mean, are we paying too much attention to the offensive defensive line when there's other needs on this team. I'll answer from my perspective, No, I listen that front seven, Uh, it needs a needs a lot, it needs a lot. Uh. The offensive line. We've got to have the trust of what we're going to be putting out there each and every week and what the development process and competition will be.

So that's that's where my eyes are are clearly focused. However, Jim Miller, it could be any position, and that goes for any position. And this is a building, developing team that has a foundation started, and it has a very particular taste for what kind of players they want to be on that field. Guys that are going to bring the juice, bring physicality, be nasty on every phase, things

that they all talked about at the beginning. And you don't you're never gonna get everybody you want the type of guys, but you certainly can start by sifting through this Senior Bowl and the other All Star Games, and then when you get to the combine, we'll get those underclassmen rolling in. But I'd say I'm sticking with the fronts. I'm sticking with the line of scrimmage until further notice. What about you? Yeah, I'm definitely gonna say the war daddies,

That's what I've been calling them. You know, you need a couple of special guys. They'll be out there and for agency guys like a Duran Pain and certainly you want to get big, strong, physical guys on the interior. I think we see how important the O and D lines are. I mean, look at Philadelphia and look at

what Kansas City's doing right now. Chris Jones was an absolute game wrecker the other night for Kansas City and for them to defeat Cincinnati probably one position I would say that everybody's like, well, you know, we do we need another tight end. You're gonna say, Cole commit. They got trey Von Westcoe there as a as a big blocker, but this style of offense, say, compared to Baltimore that likes to run the football, what do they have. They've

got Mark Andrews and they drafted that kid. William likely last year who's more of a receiving tight end. So I think something like that. You can't overlook positions like that because, as we know you, you want the strongest roster possible, and that would give the Bears even a little bit more, you know, flexibility in terms of what they can do running the football and passing it with a tight end rotation. That would be pretty good. So, Tom, were you taking notes today? You got a couple of

names of guys that really have caught your attention. I will right now. I'm just starting to memorize the numbers because you know, it's it's hard to see, but I think there's an offensive lineman. His last name maybe Steen. He wore number fifty four. Um. And you know, when you sit there and you watch the one on ones, out of my life, the kid out of Minnesota, the local guy do But this um from Alabama, Yes, he's he's a heck of a player, man, I mean I

watch him in one on ones. His he doesn't get beat. First of all, he's got great and snap count anticipation, and when the defensive lineman tries to make an alternate move, he already has a decision made how to keep his hands inside, stays low with power, and I think, you know, he's an immediate competitor as a starter, you know where, no matter. I don't know where he's gonna get drafted.

But he's just a guy that caught my eye. And then, uh, you know a couple of the other big defensive lineman, strong, steady and quick on the inside. You mentioned Tyler Steen. I thought it was just because the Shepherd quarterback, Tyson Badgett, he's a Division two obviously very decorated. At one time he had Tyler Steen as his offensive lineman. Then he had Syracuse or Florida's Osiris Torrence, and then at the same time McClendon was in their Warren McClendon from Georgia

was in there. It was basically an all SEC offensive line. And I don't think Tyson Badgett had ever experienced any of that at Shepherd College. I mean, he was just like he was back there, like I can't believe how much time I have to throw the ball here. It was. It was pretty funny. Now, what do you think of him? By the way, in two days? I like him. I think he's got a live arm um. I think he can clear clean up some things on his footwork, like a couple times he didn't open up his left hip

which caused the ball to fall short. But he has probably got the livest arm down here, I believe. Yeah. And you know, the competition comparison is, you know, really hard to even put in the same ballpark obviously, but Division two quarterbacks, it's it's rare, no question. But it's the guy who believed in himself. He wanted to be a Notre Dame. He entered the portal hoping he'll go

to Notre Dame, and so I like that attitude. He's from West Virginia, if I'm not mistaken, that college is in that same area, Jim, but he does have a live arm and uh and his dad's at twenty eight time world champion arm wrestler. So you know, you got these interesting stories. But that's a competitive thing, right So you know got that? Do you guys? Remember? Yeah? Yeah, you're really bringing out the names. Well, Kenny is working

with him. So Kenny is developing Tyson Badget, and believe it or not, I'm wondering if he landed him because if you don't know this, Kenny is one hell of an arm wrestler. Oh real, and yeah, I know that. I'm gonna ask him if he challenged Tyson Badget's dad, because if you don't know, Kenny has beaten many of people down here in mobile and walking away with a nice little pot in his right. Yeah, no, kidding, had

no idea. I was like, this is like the Sylvester Saloone over the Top movie when he was the professional arm wrestler. Yeah, and the dad dad does it both left and right, so he's having extras. Yeah, how about that he's won championships with both. That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. Jim, have you fallen now? I know you're looking at the league differently? Obviously at all times you got to cover the canvas, but specifics to what the bears, what you envision they need and what types of players

would fit. Have you fallen for any any of these guys in two days? Well? Yeah, I think Yeah, there's guys that that flash and you know here you were just talking about obviously the the Iowa State Will McDonald, I mean he has he has flashed every single day for me. I think three techniques are really going to be something that bears eye in free agency. And I think they need to look to draft one too. So

Zach Pickens out of South Carolina. He showed a lot of explosiveness where he can penetrate and be that type of guy upfront. Um, there's numerous offensive linemen that we just talked about. Obviously, the marquee name is Dewan Jones, and just how he is impressed here and how good he is their speed at wide receiver. You already brought up a jet and read. I thought, not only did Jayden Reid flash in his route running, he hit a nice deep bomb for a touchdown where he just flat

out ram past everybody. I think his punt return skills are in um. So, I think there's a little bit of everything, you know, and as we know, they can't all go in the first round. It's going to be littered throughout the entire draft, and you just start to look at the guys that can really help your team. You know who really impressed me here is that Riley Moss, the Iowa dB. I mean, he's got eleven interceptions, he three he returned for touchdowns both days. He's been all

over it and covering some of these speedy receivers. Because a lot of people questioned his top end speed, can he can he match? Uh, you know with the speed with the ball production. I think he's really making a good case for himself that he can, right he's I heard him today says he thinks he can run on the four three's at the combine. So you know, they they they're completely dismissing him as a corner and just keeping him in the safety round because of that speed.

But he thinks he can do both. Tommy, Yeah, you know, speed as good as if it's good if you can use it to benefit what your position is. Because we've seen guys go either through the combine or through the through this process they run a four two four three forty and then they get up to the NFL level and they really don't accomplish a lot. So I think it's more of what you see in between the whistles more so than what you see on a track or

a competition like a combine. It took us fifty seven minutes and forty two seconds to bring up Cody Mock because the offensive lineman that they had him out of tackle today. Jim Center guard, he's out of North Dakota State, really like what he did a lot of great adjustments even from yesterday with his hand use, his positioning and dealing with some of that beef upfront, because there's some really athletic offensive lineman in the interior there he had

to deal with. Yeah. His best friend is Cordy of Volson, the rookie guard who's starting for the Cincinnati Bengals. So you know, you look at that conference and smaller players have come out of here. This guy is impressive. Like you said, he's got that long red hair that's flowing. He's got no front teeth, yea. Then he's playing the fiddle. I mean he looked like Charles Daniels out there or Jack Daniels one or the other. Yeah, oh yeah. Dust

lost his chicklets in the seventh grade playing hockey. He says he's not gonna get him fixed until he's done playing football. So that's gonna be his m Jim. We'll see it in Mobile on Saturday. I'll be calling the game with you and you your partner in crime, and be looking forward to it. Thanks as always, well, looking forward to it with Pat Kerwin. With Tom there, I'm Jeff Johnny Act. Thanks for listening to everybody. Thank you to Kevin Fishbaye. Our producers well Adam Sedinsky, also Jordan

tread Up and Dan Burley. We have enjoyed it. We'll talk to you next week here on Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Good night, everybody, thanks for listening to this Chicago Bears net work presentation of Bears All Access. Podcasts are available on Chicago Bears dot com and on iTunes, or download the official Bears mobile app. Bears All Access has been brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by Miller Litte