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seventy to score. I'm Jeff Joniac along the broadcast partner from Bears Radio News Radio seven eighty and one oh five point nine FMWVBM. Mister Tom Thair. Tom, the clock is ticking. Drafts just twenty two days away. Getting ready? Oh, I can't wait. I think this has been an amazing offseason, Jeff, because of the way the season concluded last year, all the changes for this upcoming season, all of the attention

that's being paid by one position. I mean, if it wasn't for Pits that tight end out of Florida, we may not be talking about anybody else but quarterbacks and frankly, no offense. To our next guest, Jim Miller, I am a little tired of it. I want to see who else are we talking about in this draft. I mean, look, you know not every team is going to pick a

quarterback in the first round. Well, listen, there's gonna be a ton of conversation about tackles, my friend, because I think that's an area of the Bears will likely focus on it at some point early in the draft, whether it be first round or second round. And so I think you'll get your fill to tackle talking. Just for you, Tom, We're gonna give you a little present tonight. We are

going to talk tackles in our next segment exclusively. Okay, So I hopefully you've done a little homework, and I know my man Jim Miller from Serious Sex Admit Radio has been doing his homework. Jim, are you doing Welcome in once again our special guest here tonight. You got your tackle already this was We're gonna do quarterbacks too. But I mean, are you ready to talk a little tack Yeah? I think, Hey, we're gonna give Tom but we're gonna create a buffet here where he can just

pick any tackle that he wants. They come in all shapes and sizes, So here'll be plenty fed because there are a lot of tackles that I think a lot of people are underrating in this upcoming draft. You know what we have to do right off the top here though, And we talk about a lot of people in the building at House Hall, and one guy is so beloved in that building that we gotta wish a happy ninetieth birthday to the one and only, the legend Clyde Emrick.

I know, Tom, he's one of your closest friends and good deceies, in great health and ready to return to the building once the green light is given for everybody, and a man who just loves what he does, and he's always around that rate room and he's made a big difference in so many players lives over the course of his career, the first strength and conditioning coach in

NFL history. And Tom, if you could put into some words, I know Bred Biggs did a tremendous job and the Tribune on an article for his ninetieth birthday, and you were heavily quoted in that article, but just in a

real meaningful way, explain what he means to you. You know, he's a guy in that building no matter if you're a player, if you're a broadcaster, or if you're an ex has been you never you never avoid eye contact from Clyde Emeric because he's a guy throughout your career, whether you're a first round draft choice or a seventh round draft choice, he pays equal attention to you. He cares as much about your career no matter where you

were drafted or if you're a free agent. He's the type of guy that wants you to improve yourself, not only for right now, but he wants to improve yourself for the future. And so you know, I I there's so many sayings that I'm reminded of when I when I think of Clyde Emeric, and they they're all meaningful. And he had He's had a tremendous impact on hundreds of players lives and hundreds of people lives inside that facility because, like I said, he is a constant encourager.

And you know, Jeff, if you have a bad broadcast, you don't want to look Matt Maggie in the eye. If you have a bad game, you don't want to look your position coach in the eye. You never shy away from eye contact with Clyde Emrick, because it's always going to be a positive reflection. Well, you know, one of the one of the coach Jim Miller is that tom always tells me, and Clyde's told me too, you can't shoot a cannon from a canoe. So maybe he

told you that once or twice in the weight room. Well, what were your experiences with him back when you play with the Bears. Yeah, I agree with Tommy. He was always positive and one you knew from Clyde because he's been with the Chicago Bears for so long. He's seen everything. He's seen the ups and downs of seasons. He's seen the hot streaks, the losing streaks, how you work yourself out of a hole when when maybe things are going

so well, the adjustments you got to make. I think he was always he could always answer all your questions, Hey, Clyde, I'm looking to do this in the weight room to improve a certain area. And if he'd have just great suggestions and really knowledge that he was just going to bless and bestow upon you to be better. And I think, you know, like we all say, he's a great teammate.

I think for for Clyde, he really touched every player, every person in the building the least through through my experience, is always in a positive way that Tom had mentioned. So it's great role model for everybody to look up to, and certainly with not only his off the field exploits and what he's done in weightlifting and all that, but really was a benefit to everybody inside the entire building at hallis all. Jim, what kind of weightlifting did you do?

I was pretty aggressive in there, at least I believe I was, and and Clyde was always there to give me some tips, you know, whether it's you know, I didn't go in there to squat as much as I could or bench as much as I could, but certainly wanted to be able to take the pounding and have

the pliability for the position of quarterback. And I think Clyde was very helpful for me and that from that standpoint, and actually got me into the pool work and getting more a pool for cardio and things like that, and more dumbbell work that definitely strengthened my shoulder for areas of concern that I had concerning my shoulder. If you didn't love the weight room as a player, could Clyde bring that love of weight training to you if you're one of those guys, yeah, of course, And that's what

I'm saying. You know, he had such a strong attachment to no matter where you were, where you were drafted, what type of strength you came to the Bears with, you were always going to lead stronger. But it is always something he instilled an attitude in you that weightlifting and is going to be an important part of your life the afterlife of football. He always used to say, you know, you got to think about the big picture

and that was the entirety of your life. Do what you can do to become a better, more durable football player during your time in the Bears weight room. But when you leave the Bears, when people see you, let them know that you are an ex football player. Allow them to see what you have learned in the weight room at the Bears facility and carry it to that afterlife and through every one of my nieces and nephews.

We've talked about weightlifting. In every bit of instructions I've ever given another person, it's the instructions that I've learned from Clyde Emrick and it's still is as important today as it was thirty years ago, and it will be that important thirty years from now. No, it's interesting too because at age ninety he's still lifting weights, right right, We shall be so lucky. And what does he always tell Jeff Joniac, Look, you're not a good student, not

having tough time with you? Now he said, well, no, I'm not, I'm not coachable. That's yes, there you go, there you got coachable. Him and Dave Hendrickson from the Bears football video operations. I always ask me, Jim, you always ask are you coachable today? And some days yes, and some days now yeah. Well I can see that from both of you and Dave. You guys kind of

go to the beat of a different drum. And so I'm sure Clyde in terms of it all his discipline in his Olympic training, I'm sure that wouldn't have floated too well with his a weightlifting team that he was a part of. Hey, there's still hope for me, that's for sure. All right. As we look at what's going on this week, I guess you know, we take a broad view of things here in our first segment, But the Sam Donald trade and what that means to the top of the draft Jim Miller, Well, I would say this.

I think when you look at Carolina to make that move to trade for Sam Darnold, it tells you where they feel about where the quarterbacks are in this draft. Because if we feel that Trevor Lawrence is going one, obviously the Jets feel good about about a quarterback at number two and that's kind of resetting their football team. And then of course San Francisco trading up to number three,

it tells you that they're taking a quarterback. Now Carol sitting at the eighth spot, they feel that they can't move with anybody to get up to get to number four. Potentially Atlanta's at number four, that would be a trade in division, and it tells you that they probably grade Sam Darnold higher than what their fourth and fifth quarterbacks are. So I think it was very telling what Carolina did. It's Jim Miller, I'm Jeff Johnny ac Alongo with Tom Fair.

This is bears All Access brought to you by IGS Energy, our first break ahead here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Welcome back to Bears Out Access, brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at igs dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world. Jeff johnny Ac along with Tom Bair and Big Jim Miller from Serious XM NFL Radio moving the chains with his partner there. You guys do mock drafts every week. Who do you have the

Bears selecting in around one at number twenty? Should they stay there? Well? If if he keeps on going up the draft boards, and I do think he is, I had him taking the South Carolina cornerback j C. Horn, But man, his numbers were terrific on his pro day. He's got the NFL bloodlines with his father, who's Joe Former, a New Orleans Saint wide receiver, Joe Horn, And I guess all his interviews have just been through the roof. So I think the way the corners are going right now,

probably it could be j C. Horn. One Patrick Surtan out of Alabama. Two Caleb Farley out of Virginia Tech. You don't know about him because he's got a medical He had a dyssectomy surgery with his back. Supposedly he's one hundred percent, but teams are gonna have to get all the medical on him. And so a player like him could be dropping a little bit, but man, boy, that JC horn sure looks like a surefire hot draft pick. That's going to be a you know, a no you

know for him, he's not. There's not any really bad marks on him at all. So he's a pure football player, all right and self proclaimed pretty well, maybe not self proclaimed, but known around the SEC. Is a pretty good trash talker. Yeah, oh yeah, he can do it. He learned from the best his father. We got a lot of father son duels that are that are going to be coming in this draft. I just talked to Lorenz O'Neill, remember the fullback for Baltimore for so many years. His son's a

defensive tackle at Purdue. But you're going to see a lot of sons whose fathers are former NFL players, So a lot of bloodlines in this draft. T'm are you okay with the Bears going with a corner in round one if necessary? I am? You know, the two offensive edges, I'm looking at offensive tackle and cornerback. I think cornerback is an important role. But you know, I'm interested to see where is Trey Roberson. What is already Burns going to contribute because when we had small snippets to see

these guys last year. They look like they belonged in an NFL uniform and they have true fond So if they, you know, get an evaluation through you know, the weight room and through some on field work that these guys can come in here and compete. I think both positions are desperate for starting caliber players and depth. And so when you look at the eight or ten offensive tackles that are valuable to you, and Jim mentions the you know, the top two guys are not going to fall to

the Bears at twenty. But if they identify another corner out there that Ryan and Matt thinks as a media contributor, I wouldn't shy away from that position as well as offensive tackle. All right, let's start breaking down some of these tackles. We'll start with Jim, because Pennay Sewell out of Oregon appears to be the top dog with maybe some strong consideration from the local crowd here and Rashaun Slater of Northwestern a lot of love for him as well.

Maybe different players. A little bit Sewell, a little bit thicker, a little bit heavier, but by all accounts, just an animal there at tackle. Yeah, he looks to be the real deal. Penney Sewell and I talked to Paul Alexander, who he's a former NFL offensive line coach for thirty years. He actually has worked with Penney Sewell out of Oregon. Basically six foot four or almost six five, let's just

put it there. Three hundred and thirty one pounds, did his forty and just over five flat thirty three quarter inch arms, so he got plenty of arm length there, ten and three eights hands, so he passes that drill as well. So, but he knocked his pro day everything out of the park. He showed his acceleration, his punch. He's got a vicious punch that time can talk about. But he's just a big, powerful quick man, has high production grades from from his standpoint. He's smart on the

video and he's advanced technically. With the really strong punch that I mentioned. He looks like a sheer, you know, just a sheer draft pick. Probably the top tackle in this draft. Then you'd have to talk about Slater. One guy we're going to get into is Christian Darasa because he is really flying up the draft boards and we'll

see where he falls. Maybe it's a person the Bears, if they do think about tackle and what Time's talk about, maybe they could trade up a couple of spots Land, a good tackle and Christian Darassau, who also looks like a camp this prospect. You know, one thing about Sewel. One thing about Sewel is if you're going to have those heavy hands they talk about that big punch, you have to have the feet that match up with it, because the one of the things that can really destroy

your confidence. If you go for that punch and you miss and you don't have the feet to recover, that's going to get you in a lot of trouble. At the NFL level. Maybe in college you can recover a little bit. But when they talk about the you know, the best for a gap scheme, the best for a zone scheme, you know, Sewel has got the ability and the tangibles that you need for every one of them. So that's what I'm always concerned about, is how does

your feet recover from a miss with the hands? And that's the one thing I liked most about him at this level is his tenaciousness and his ability for his feet to keep up. Is it more challenging for us from the outside looking in to find the type of tackle that would best suit whatever the Bears offensive scheme ultimately is going to be. Because it's clearly been tweaked, it's it's been adjusted the collaboration of everybody involved with

those offensive coaches. They're coming up with their new plan here for twenty twenty one to have the Bears offense, whatever that might look like. Does that does it make it a little hard to find guys that could potentially plug and play. Certainly at right tackle is one of the key spots. Yeah, go ahead, Jim, Oh, well, no, I think there are a couple of guys that are plug and play candidates here. And you look at their coaching background from college, what was their coach's influence on

their career. If you look at Pat Fitzgerald and you look at what he means of the Northwestern program, and then you go and you look at Slater, you look at his ability to move, how bendable he is out of his stance, how intelligent he is at a really fast paced system. If they want to go at that high octane out there Northwestern. I really like everything that he's been able to develop over the last couple of years.

He's gotten bigger and stronger each year. But I do think, you know, the influence because we're we we see Pat Fitzgerald more than maybe we see the position coach of Oregon or the head coach of Oregon. So I like the influences that the coaches have put into the minds of these guys as their time and development. Yeah, I think there's you know, every guy is going to fit a scheme differently because you know, you look at Mayfield, who's strictly a right tack a lot of University of Michigan.

You know they're going to run a little bit more power football from that Stamptook point you got. You know, you got big centers, guards like a Creed Humphrey who he's more of a gap system center, and things like like that. Slater, I agree with Tom is probably the more athletic type that if you're in a wide open offense that truly really does a lot of RPOs and things like that. I think is going to have a perfect fit in the NFL. And we see more teams

that are doing that. Other guys that I'm going to bring up, like Christian Darisaw from Virginia Tech. This guy is probably a can't miss prospect. That's what everybody thinks about him. So I wouldn't be shocked if even if he goes ahead of Slater. But he's six six three or two out of Virginia Tech. He ran a four eight five forty yard dash for that size, So this is a big, athletic guy who can move. Had a ridiculous pro dad that I mentioned. He had a ten

foot four broad jump. He's got thirty three inch arms, so he's just got a great frame. NFL tackle just looks like the prototypical tackle, very productive player. His athleticisms off the charge, and he only had six pressures and no sacks in twenty games that he performed in so excellent speed in jumping skills as well. So he's got the body and athleticism, all the things that Tom is talking about in terms of the left tackle position. And there's plenty other guys like him in this draft that

probably won't be taken till round two. You know one thing about this, Jeff, is because you and I have talked about it a lot, is that if we're going to identify an offensive tackle, that's what I want identified. I don't want a tweener. I don't want a gap guy. I don't want a guy that say, wow, if he fails at tackle, he can play guard. The Bears have enough centers and guards, and shall just give me an offensive tackle. That's what I'm evaluating, pure and simple, all right.

It's as important a position as any in the National Football League, and it's worthy of another segment. We're gonna pick up a tackle talk with Jim and time after this on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. The Chicago Bears Network presents Inside the Bears, brought to you by a Verison, Anthony Adams, and Lauren Screeden cover the world of Bears football. I Don't Off the Field every Sunday night at ten thirty five pm on Fox thirty two Chicago, or watch anytime at Chicago Bears dot Com

or on a Bears official app. Welcome back to the program without producer Jordan Tredap, Dan really appreciate you joining us tonight with Jim Miller in Tim there, I'm Jeff Joniac As we break down the tackle position. There's so many apparently available in the upper rounds of this year's draft. Jim and you were amplifying or about to anyway about

something Tom said about wanting tackle. You get a tackle guy who's played his entire career tackle, not a guy that maybe will you know, project as a tackle after being a really good guard or vice versa. And I'm in line with that as well. How do you feel about it? Yeah, well again I think yeah, depending on what you're asking them to do. I do think this is a really good tackle draft. That we mentioned guys who are wide open and guys who are more in

the power mode. So as we know, they all come in different shapes and sizes, but legitimately, you know, just prototypical, you want your left tackle to typically be probably about six to five and above. You know, that's really the starting point. They've got to have long ms, got to have quick feet that Tom mentioned, got to have the punch. You know, you want him to be the sole quote unquote Walter Jones, the dancing bear that has that type of athleticism. And there are guys in this draft that

really check all those boxes. I think I think Sam Cosmi of Texas, he checks that box. Six six three, fourteen pounds, He's got thirty four inch arms, four eight seven in his forty. So here's a guy close to three twenty who's running close to a four to eight in terms of his forty thirty six on his bench press. So this is a strong, big left tackle. Other guys that are going to be talked about Tevin Jenkins from Oklahoma State, very similar from that standpoint in Sam Cosmi.

Probably the best athlete overall in this draft at left tackle is Spencer Brown out of Northern Iowa. And look look about to his numbers. This guy's over six eight,

so he's almost like big Cab Williams. So you know, he's almost a six nine guy four eight in his forty at almost six nine six nine three kN droll with his That's ridiculous for a big guy to have the change of direction that he has four to three in terms of his short shuttle nine nine in terms of his broad jump, twenty nine in terms of his bench press. How about this for Spencer Brown, no football play boy, He had no football in twenty twenty. He

had a baseball, basketball. Truly really good athlete from his standpoint growing up in terms of all of his numbers. But he's tall, long, athletic, Like I said, Miss twenty twenty because it was canceled, but he's been working the whole time. Last tidbit, I'll tell you about how great of an athlete Spencer Brown is out of Northern Iowa.

Out of all the tackles that have come out since nineteen eighty seven, since nineteen eighty seven, now that's over one thousand, one hundred and thirty four tackles, he rated number one. Number one is what he rates in in terms of athletic ability. That's red relative is called the Relative Athletic Score raz RAS. He comes out number one since nineteen eighty seven. Wow, that's a mouthful right there.

And I was going to bring him up, as you know, and maybe maybe a guy like this can sneak into the top three rounds of the draft coming out of Northern Iowa. But you know, he even neglected some of the big numbers thirty four inch arms, eighty two and three eight wingspan, massive hands. But Tommy, all that being said, this is a guy who played defensive line in eight man prep football and then moved to offensive line for the first time in his life at UNI. So there's

not there's still this. Is this a guy that you can mold and shape or you know, do you He clearly has the feet, he clearly has the athleticism, but needs work on technique. You would think, well, so when when I see Brown, I think he's one of the best big man athletes I've ever seen. And you think of the way he can run, you think of his skills,

you think of his athleticism. But you know, Jeff, I've had an NFL GM tell me he doesn't like tackles this tall because he doesn't believe they can win and gain and earn the leverage game throughout an attire contest. So now, if he plays at a six nine frame late in the game against a good pass rusher, the difficulty of getting his punch in the right position, not illegal hands of the face, making sure he can stay

in that athletic position is really challengeable. So when you said, yeah, this guy used to be a defensive lineman, Hey, here's a guy that I may think about putting back a defensive tackle. I know it sounds Hey, listen, they've taken defensive tackles and moved him to offensive line. I love this guy, but I would like to see a simulated game where he's running and see what his bendability is in the latter part of the game and in an

exhausting two minuture role. In those types of evaluations that you have to you have to evaluate them by because it's not only watching a guy run a forty or going through the bench press. It's about how do you play with that frame when you're super fatigued well, And the big part of it is when you're that tall, you're always going to have questions about, you know, the pad level and how how you're going to generate power

with that kind of frame. So that's that's along been a discussion point in the National Football League with big, big tackles. I'm gonna touch on Tevin Jenkins again for both you and Jim. Jim sounds like he's got a lot of nasty to him and I always kind of crack gravitate to those types of players at certain positions in the NFL because they become in the long term. Maybe you're alpha, the guy that's gonna say, hey, come follow me, and that could be the center, could be

the guard, could be the tackle. But you know, is is there something like that in your opinions that is needed on the Bears offensive line right now? We got. We got a great selection of interior players, but you need a mentality that says, hey, I'm not taking anybody's you know, you know what, and I'm going to take care of business here on the offensive line. It sounds like this guy might be that type of player. Yeah.

At the Oklahoma State he does. He plays with a lot of attitude and you know, I think, you know, you don't have to be a big talker. I think you talk with your play. And I think that's what Tevin Jenkins does. I think that's what say, a protos typical tackle and probably the best tackle in football Trent Williams does. You know, when he talks, it's like eff hunting.

You know, if people listen. He talks very rarely, but people listening just lets people know, Yeah, I'm the guy that really is the best in the National Football League and my standard is the standard. And I think Jenkins does offer that type of you know, mauling attitude where he's respected just due to his tough play and he really doesn't have to tell anybody about it. He just shows your week in and week out. You know, one thing about Tevin Jenkins too, is when he comes because

because all the measurables. He doesn't have great length, he doesn't, you know, have that ideal past the eye test for a tackle. You know, can he move you know, yeah, he can move in the guard. He's got everything. You know,

he's super physical, physical, he finishes blocks really well. Um. But again, I want a guy that's coming here knowing that he is going to be a career offensive tackle and if that's what, you know, the brass and with any team that it feels they're going to pick him, if they believe that they're bringing in this ten year tackle, then then great. Again. I love the way he plays.

I love his nastiness. He's a big, beefy guy. But again, I want a guy that when he lines up first day of OTAs or training camp, that he's in that position to stay and play as another guy Jim with thirty six reps and another sub five forty. Not the debt matter, you know, I know that doesn't matter, but it's he opted out in November, so he said, hey,

I'm gonna get ready for the draft. So a number of these guys were talking about in the end for this particular situation with a pandemic, these guys built their bodies and they got trained a lot earlier than they normally would. Do you think that's going to pay dividends or are these numbers just maybe because we're not at the combine and everything is the same. Are they a little Are they going to be a little bit better

than what they really are? Yeah? No, it's a good point because, yeah, they've certainly been training for all these things for their pro day, and their numbers could be inflated. But for some guys that opted out, this has actually been good for them because, like here we were just talking about Spencer Brown from Northern Iowa. I mentioned all he's been doing is working with former NFL offensive line

coach Paul Alexander the entire time. So Paul, he's actually been getting good coaching what a lot of these guys have been doing it in it's for all these guys, no matter what facility they're at, they're all going to these performance centers and they bring in an offensive line coach formerly of the NFL or currently in terms of the preps and things that they do to show these players the techniques that they're going to be asked to do at the next level. So I do think they're

getting coached up from that standpoint. So they're all going to benefit. And I think for these guys, they're gonna be big, strong, and as you said, a lot of these guys can move because they've trained that way here this entire offseason and through the pandemic. All right, Jim, we gotta take our break as we rumble through Bears All Access tonight here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy score. Let's take a break back in a few This segment of Bears on Access is brought to you by Athletical

Physical Therapy. Visit Athletic dot com to request an appointment in clinic or virtually and start feeling better tomorrow. Jeff joni Ac, along with Tom Thayer and Jim Miller, the former Chicago Bears quarterback from Sirius x MNFL Radio, our guests. This week. We're going over a bunch of different aspects of the draft. With just three weeks to go, we focused on tacos. Now we're going to go back to

Jim's Baileywick. We gotta do it every show. We got to talk quarterbacks, and so with the trade by San Francisco, am I to believe all the national experts that are analyzing this, that the forty nine ers making this move to draft Mac Jones. Is this what you're hearing everybody? That's what everybody assumes. I'm not so sure of that, you know, because when you look at you know, and I think he checks all the boxes and all those

things that I think he could play right away. But it sounds like they are, you know, they want to keep Sam Darnold or excuse me, Jimmy Garoppolo. They want to keep Jimmy Garoppolo. They've been throwing them out there for a first round pick. Nobody's going to give a first round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. So everybody assumes it's Mac Jones. I personally think it would be Justin Fields. I think he's more athletic. I think he's got a higher ceiling than Mac Jones from that standpoint, and he

offers more athleticism. Again, when you look at Kyle Shannon, he's coached both sides. He's coached the pocket passer and Matt Ryan, which really when you look at Mac Jones, that's that's what he is. But he typically likes the more athletic guys. Even going back to his Dad drafting John Elway. You look when they drafted Robert Griffin when

Kyle was the offensive coordinator in Washington. Now when you go back to Jay Cutler, they drafted him in Denver, So I think they would prefer in my opinion, Justin Fields at number three is how I potentially see it playing out, which you know, wouldn't shock anybody if that happens because Justin to me, has a higher ceiling than Mac Jones. You know, one thing about the quarterback position

is Mac Jones is more similar to Jimmy Garoppolo. Justin Fields doesn't have a lot of similarities to Garoppolo, And so Fields can do everything with Garoppolo and Mac Jones can do, but Mac Jones can't do everything Justin Fields can do in terms of athleticism, running the edge, the RPOs. And it's gonna be interesting to see what type of offense do they want to continue to build in San Francisco, because it's two different offenses with Justin Fields than it

is with Mac Jones and Jimmy Garoppolo. So I think it'll tell you a little bit about the future of the offense going forward, depending upon if they have their sites out of Mac Jones, and that's who they're going with. It's going to be a dropback style, pocket protection, get the ball out of your hands type of offense, and you may not have that edge threat that you would have in an RPO offense with justin Fields, Jim, we can see as many as five, that's kind of the

expected number for first round quarterbacks. Out of those five, is there a chance one of them is going to drop further than people might think? And I'm looking at maybe Fields or Lands or are there any other in your opinion, potential first round quarterbacks that could sneak in here? Yeah? I think you know. You look at Tampa nor Typically teams will trade back into the end of the first round and pick a quarterback because you get the fifth year option. And I would think for at thirty two,

where Tampa Bay is selecting, that wouldn't shock me. If they take Kyle Trask or the Quarterbaur Mills out there at Stanford, it really wouldn't shock me at all because to me, they're really two prototypical drop back passers that could learn under Tom Brady over the next couple of years, and to me, that makes a lot of sense. As for your first question about quarterbacks dropping through. It may happen, but I do think there are teams that are going

to be needy already. When you look at Denver, they've mentioned they want to bring in competition for Lock. So whether it's Trey Lance, who isn't ready to play right now, he could go in there and compete at least put Drew Lock on notice. And where Denver is selecting at the number nine spot, I'm not so sure about Carolina taking a quarterback at eight. They tried to say it's off the table, but to me, for them to trade for Sam Darnold, they're basically going to get Sam Darnold

for three years. Let's say he plays this year, he plays under his fifth year option, which is about eighteen million bucks, and then they franchise tag him. They basically have him for three years and seventeen million dollars. And by them trading for him, I think it tells you that it takes them out of the quarterback market because those other quarterbacks would have to sit behind him and learn,

which wouldn't be a bad thing. But I think all in all, I think Carolina isn't going to be taking a quarterback at eight now and Tim, there is an expectation that the Bears would draft a quarterback at some point in this twenty twenty one selection process. But Jim, and do you want to be sure you're not just taking one to take one. I think the Bears are in a position they have to take a quarterback and

they have to think about further development. And it's no offense against Tyler Bray, who's been around the NFL now for about eight years. I don't there there's ever thought that he was going to develop into a competitor, a guy that you're going to bring the training camp and could be the dark horse in the race at the quarterback position and eventually morph into a possible starter. So I would want to see a guy I'm not going

to waste any draft choice. I'm not going to bring a guy in here just to fill a quarterback jersey in the throwballs in seven on seven, one on ones and all the drills you go through. I want a guy here that's going to get the equal consideration about development for the future that any quarterback that's already on the roster. So I don't think Jeff, the Bears have

the luxury of drafting a project. Drafting a that you know has such a muddled college career, whether through injuries or whatever, the circumstances are that you hope he's got an upside. No, I want a guy that's showing me the climb up the ladder through his college career, that's ready to take that next step. Yeah, And I think for them that the Bears don't have the assets to trade up to get one of these quarterbacks, so it's gonna have to be later in the draft. And I

agree with Tom. Why draft a project? How about a guy who's a four year starter, like a Kellen Mahn from Texas A and M that pretty much does everything that the Bears offense is asking him to do. I think Ian Book from Notre Dame potentially could be a consideration from the Bears. These guys aren't projects. They played quite a bit and there are guys that could come in and compete in a guy that you can develop,

but they come with a ton of college experience. Is there a diamond in the rough in your opinions, a guy like you know so much conversation was about Russell Wilson that you could find and really surprise people. Well, I think he's not going to play right away. But I mentioned the Stanford product David David Mills or Davis Mills.

Excuse me. This dude can throw a football now. I mean, he's just got you know, he doesn't have a lot of starts, which, of course that's going to shy away a lot of teams, much like say Trey Lance, who only comes with nineteen starts. So I think you got

to be careful there. But if you run a run play action offense, say like Arthur Smith had just got the head coaching job in Atlanta, to me, this guy would be the perfect guy to draft in the mid rounds, to place behind Matt Ryan and just let him marinate a little bit. This guy is flawless throwing the football. I watched a lot of tape on him, just comes with the head, a little bit of an injury history,

and really just hasn't played a lot. So but he's a guy that you can really develop and I think will become a starter at some point in his NFL career. All right, Jim and Dad, one more break, you go on another segment to wrap things up here tonight on Bear's All Access Here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to Score Fresh Cut, Fresh Perspective, book an appointment with Chicago Bears Small Business off pros when our principal Barber is a principal Barbers dot Com. Welcome back to Bear's

All Access. You're on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Our producer today Jordan Trenta with Tom Thair and Jim Miller. I'm Jeff Joniac. Let's talk about the news of the week. Right after our show week ago on Thursday, they had the news conferences with Matt nage and also general manager Ryan Pace, and with the news Jim Miller that there's going to be the play calling back to Matt Nagge here for twenty twenty one. Would you well, I think

from Matt standpoint, I don't think it surprises anybody. I think a lot of NFL coaches, Mike McCarthy, he's taken back play calling duties. Andy Reid has done it at certain times in his career, and this is a passion of Matt Naggie. I think we we've talked about it. When he arrived with the Bears, he wanted to continue the play calling. But what's interesting here is that the Bears made that transition to Bill Laser last year and

they did show some improvement. And now you've got Bill Laser who's got a background with Andy Dalton, and probably as a certain level of comfortability, you thought it would be moving towards that Bill Laser would be calling the plays this year. But hey, I get it. I think the pressure cooker of the NFL is is lighting up

a little bit for the Bears. I think they know they want to have a lot of success, and I think Matt Naggie from his standpoint, you know, he wants to have a lot of control from that standpoint and how the season plays out. So he's got great joy in terms of his play calling and so he'll resume that. It's just how quickly he'll develop that relationship with Andy Dalton. And luckily he's got good insight from Bill Laser that

he can lean on. But most coaches who are play callers before they normally take it back and I think that's why Naggie is elected to do it as well. Yeah. I like this decision all around, like that Matt Maggie is going to be the play caller. I like the kind of the pressure that it puts in the entire offense because they know the head coach is the designer of the offense and he's the guy that's calling the plays.

And then when they do come off the field, Bill Laser can be an immediate attachment to Andy Dalton Nick Boles, who never is playing quarterback, so Matt doesn't have to transfer a lot of energy from calling plays to go and address the quarterback what's needed from the last series, or how to look at the tape that they have on the sideline to get things corrected. So I like that Matt's calling plays. I have nothing against coach Laser. I you know, I like the way that he was

calling plays last year. However, when you look at the pressure cooker in which the Bears is this year, I think the head coach calling the plays is better for the entirety of the team. All right, let's look at the defense, and we got you know, obviously a Keem Hicks is going to be back inside. You got Khalil Mack and those two guys are game wrecords time. Let's start with you on where their games could evolve, especially with some new pieces coming on the defensive side of

the boss. Certainly at cornerback. We still don't know about the other safety spot. Well, you know, talking specifically about Khalil and Akim, I don't want their games to get stagnant at this stage of their career. It seems like you go and you get into the year five six years of your career, and now you got to continue to still develop new tricks, new moves. You know, was it you remember the nighttime practice that the Bears had last was a last year a couple of years ago. Yeah,

And I was so. I was watching Khalil Mack in practice and Bruce Smith, the Hall of Famer that played for the Buffalo Bills, he used to have this inside spin move that was almost unstoppable. He would set you up and he would bait you into it. In every game he would set you up and he would get a sack from it. I saw Khalil use that move a couple times in that night time practice, and I've even went up and asked him, Hey, why don't you show that a little bit more in the game, because

it puts a lot of paranoia into offensive tackles. So when you look at Khalil, yeah, we see what he can do coming around the corner, how he can get to the quarterback and try to become a reckless and create those fumbles. I need to see him to put more in his pass rushing arsenal and I think it could catch a lot of developed offensive tackle experience offensive tackles off guard. And I think it's the same thing

with a Keeam Hicks. To me, I would like to see a team Hicks be in the best physical condition he could possibly be in. When you look at what he can do as a dominator when he's fresh, he is unstoppable. But when you get to this stage in the career sometimes that's got to be the point of emphasis. Make sure you're the best conditioned player that you can be at at that destructive body weight that he can

carry around. So when you talk about the experience of those two guys, I want to see more out of them. I don't think they've plateaued. I think they have they're better to be. But then when you look at the influence that he has down the line on Eddie Goldman and Belal Nichols and stuff, That's why I think that a team has to carry himself at such a high

performance level. So it's kind of a trickle down effect to these young guys that have tremendous upsides and they start to feel, you know, what a team means of the team, just like what Khalil means of the team. Jim. From a quarterbacks perspective, Tom used the word paranoia put paranoia in a offensive lineman's mind. What puts paranoia in a mind of a quarterback when you got those two guys on the field, And is that enough when they're playing at a high level to cause enough disruption in

a quarterbacks team. Yeah. I remember when we beat Washington in Washington ten to seven on a fake punt and Bruce Smith was still playing that game, Bruce Smith nineteen years in the NFL, and that game was just an absolute bloodbath for all the things that Tom's mentioning. I remember walking in at halftime and I told Bruce Man, you still got it. It's your nineteenth year. That dude was in my grill every single play and it was

just a battle in the trenches. So I'd say, what puts fear in you as a quarterback when you don't have time to throw? You know, you're trying to go through your reads and you're you're kind of holding onto the football, waiting for the receiver to get there, and there's just no time left because those guys are putting so much pressure on you where you become indecisive in

your decision making. And at the end of the day, it's not always a sack, but they're they're throwing the timing off on the plays and minimum you're getting hit almost every single play, and those add up over the course of four quarters. So I think from the Bear's perspective, I think they'll be able to do all that I've maintained it. I like the Bears defense. I think they'll

just be fine in twenty twenty one. You know, they'll you know, with the team Hicks and they'll get Eddie Goldman back, Tom mentioned below Nichols and Mario Edwards resigning him was big. They add Angelo Blackson up front, and

now your pass rushers stay the same, but Keen Hicks. Obviously, when you look on the outside, like for Robert Quinn to have more of an impact, but you've got other guys that are going to have to step up and like a Trevis Gibson and really start to contribute from that standpoint, and they should be able to do everything that they want to do and really not drop off all that much at all. All right, again, less than a minute ago, I want to throw one on the

table real quick. Give me see what you guys think. I'm also wondering what the slot receiver position is going to be, and in this offense and in every offense, it could be a deadly weapon. There's a really good group of receivers again that played well in the slot that you might be able to get even into the mid rounds of the draft. Because we don't know what the situation is right now at Anthony Miller, How do

you guys feel about it? Start with Tom. I think it's a position that really has to present and present itself inside this offense. And Darnell Mooney has that ability. Riley Ridley has that ability. So I mean, if you're looking for a college guy to come over and take off that position, I think you're asking for a little much.

It's all about what you're developing on your roster. Well, there's plenty of talented receivers that are going to be in this draft, and plenty of good slot receivers starting in the first round. If the Bears were to think about that, at twenty. You know you look at Cadarius Tony from Florida. I mean, these guys are talented. This look at the impact of Justin Jefferson, who everybody thought was a quote unquote slot receiver last year out of LSU.

All right, fellas, we're out of time. As always, we can jam so only so much into the bag, but we did our best tonight. Thanks as always, Big Jim Miller will talk to you next week. All Right, sounds good. Thank you, Tommy, and thank you all for listening. Thanks to our producer Jordan Trentup and the folks at the Score That'll do it on Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Good night, Thanks for listening to this Chicago

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