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producer Adam Stezinski. We got Jim Miller, our weekly guest for a few segments, and then at the bottom of the hour it Bears new defensive coordinator Sean Decide, Temmy, how you doing, Buddy? Doing good? Jeff, I'm looking forward to talking to Sean. I think it's gonna be exciting opportunity because this is a guy that we've known for a long time, but now he's in the pilot's seat, so it's gonna be interesting to pick his brain a little bit. About the different influences that we've got to

see in his career. But how he talks about the different influences then the impact they will have on his career. Well, I got taste of it earlier in the week when his introductory news conference spoke for quite a while about his rise as a now nine year NFL coach and all with one organization. You know, worked his way through the college game. We know about his teaching ability, his trust, his nickname Doc has it carries more to it than

just his education background. That's a term of endearment that players really respect him. And so it'll be interesting to see hit on a couple of points. Maybe he's not gonna talk personnel or scheme, but you know, just trying to pick his head a little bit. We know Vic Fangio the influence time is significant, right, But his background as an educator, I think it's really an asset in the teaching of football because you have multiple levels that

you're going to have to teach a scheme to. Where before was kind of centric to the defensive backs in his NFL career, but now when you're teaching coaches about his scheme and how he wants his players taught. I'm really interested to watch the impact that Sean's gonna have, and I'm excited to see a young coach takeover in the NFL because a lot of time we hear names being repeated in terms of hirings, but this is a

new guy on the scene and I'm excited for him. Yeah, he's also worked at the linebacker level, special teams coordinator in college, and really almost an entirely new defensive staff to work with. Will break it all down, and then the news of the day Tommy. Another domino was following in the quarterback world, with Carson wentz Off to the Indianapolis coach for a third round pick this year and a second that could turn into a one based on

playing time in twenty twenty two. The big headline here for me is and most people are reporting the Bears

did not make an offer. Whether that's true or not is yet to be seen, but the fact is that there's a tight relationship with Frank Reich and this is in his headspace, no doubt, is a more comfortable situation for him to be within Indianapolis Colts and the guy who coached him to what was going to be an MVP type season in seventeen before his Aco, Right, But if you just looked at some of the still shots after the trade took place of he and Frank Reich

in their past, it was almost a no brainer. Look, these guys have such a forged relationship already. This is the best thing, you know, This is the best possible team for him to go to. But what I was saying is most of the conversation you and I have immediately after the Super Bowl is really I, you know, to the combine. But there's been more conversation on the sports channels, in the news and the radio about the

quarterback position exclusively and specifically league wide. So rather than us talking about Trevor Lawrence or who's gonna be the second third quarterback picked in the draft, or who's gonna you know, when are the linemen gonna start falling? Or when are these linebackers gonna go? Man, it's just that there's multiple teams. I think that I saw graft twenty one teams will return their quarterback. The rest of them are looking for new quarterbacks. Right. It could be more

than that too. You just don't know what's gonna happen with Ben Roethlisberger, you know in Pittsburgh, kind of a lukewarm or sponse yesterday from his general manager there in Pittsburgh about a return. But you knew this was going to happen. The dominoes have to fall. Free agency comes before the NFL Draft, so with salary cap and setting your course, it has to be somewhat settled at the quarterback position unless you're totally dedicated to going into the

draft and pulling out a quarterback. That's for all the teams looking for one. So and it is interesting in the compensation. I know a lot of people are talking about, Wow, that's that's all you gave up for him to get him over there to Indianapolis. But the price tag, and we'll talk more about this with Jim Miller, the price tag you're bringing onto your own salary cap because of his big deal that he signed with Philadelphia and the cap they're gonna carry now, the dead cap space, I

believe it's a record for one player. Uh, that's that's part of this compensation. You got to inherit some of that salary, right. But the thing about it too is even the teams are at the top end of the draft it's not guaranteed they're going to draft a quarterback because they have the assets they could go and possibly make a play for some of the other quarterbacks that you're you're a are being offered out there and what

they're willing to give up. And so I just think it's going to be a really interesting NFL year through free agency and through the combine in the draft that man teams could completely change the profile that they concluded the last season with and they're going into next season with. So it appeared the Bears drew some interest in Matthew Stafford. I didn't think that would ever happen within a division for starters, and it was a big haul for the Lions.

So that's one domino. Now this domino, gosh, now it's going to be talked about next for the Chicago Bears at the quarterback position that'll be now raging over the next couple of weeks. Well, you know, you do. There's there's guys that have untapped potential at their youth, or there's some guys that have extreme amount of experience that can come in and fit immediately to the plan that

you set forth for your offense. So you know, you got a figure at what end of the spectrum are you trying to, you know, fulfill in your quarterback position? All right? Well, coming up at the next segment, we got Big Jim Miller from Serious x M NFL Radio against Sean Desai. At the bottom of the hour, we'll talk off things NFL as it impacts the Bears league wide. Got touch on JJ Watt asking for and receiving his

release from the Houston Texans. With that means now in terms of other dominoes around the league, it's an interesting start to the offseason, not that far removed from the Super Bowl. This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Welcome back in everybody to Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at igs dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world, wouldn't Big Tim There, Jeff JONNINGAC and now welcome in from

Serious Sex M NFL Radio. Jim Miller from Moving the Chains with Pat Kerwin our guest over a few segments teaching every week here on Bears All Access. Big Jim the quarterback carouseuse spinning again to day Yeah, it's you know, it's funny when you read some of these articles and they're trying to make it all but look at the compensation Philadelphia got. Philadelphia lost in this trade. Huge, Okay huge, they lost this trade. This is a just tells you

that they're stripping everything down. But this is about as bad as it gets. Not only did they trade up, they traded away five players to get once. They traded up not once, they traded up twice to get the number two, So they gave away five picks. There, he's going to be the face of the franchise. They're trying to get the deal that the Rams just traded for Matthew Stafford. Right, they got a couple of ones and another pick as well there. Plus they got a quarterback

in Jared Golf in that trade. Also got nowhere near that it's a third round twenty twenty one pick and it'll be a second round twenty twenty two. Plus they're still taking a thirty three million dollar cap hit Philadelphia is This is about as bad as it gets. Guys, people who can try and spend it all they want. This is a pretty bad deal for Philadelphia all day long. And now if Carson Wentz goes to Indy and Frank Reich is able to resurrect his career and he plays brilliant.

It's gonna look even worse for Philadelphia for making this trade today, So just keep your eye on what happens. But that's about as bad as it gets. What happened today good, good for Indie though, good for the Bears and team. That's the way you look at it. But Jim, does Philadelphia now have to look immediately to go older and more experienced than Jalen Hurts or how do they fill the void if they believe that's the type of quarterback, that athleticism they want to go with, But there's not

too alike with more experience. So how do you think the direction they're gonna go? Yeah, I think they're gonna have to bring in a veteran because I mean, you still don't even know about Jalen Hurts. He's played basically four games. He's done some good things with how he played. Obviously that last game everybody was concerned and probably what led to Peterson getting shown the door when he put in Nate Sudfeld when the game was on the line.

But he said, hey, we thought Sudfeld had played well and he deserved an opportunity and he wanted to play him. But you still don't know about Jalen Hurts. He loved the background, He's a winner, all those things that he transfers. He wins with Lincoln Riley, and has shown flashes in the NFL. But I don't think you can say he's a surefire starter right now. I think you would have to bring in a veteran to compete if you're the Philadelphiagles,

because one thing about that division it's wide open. Is any team in that division look like they're the leader in the clubhouse. I don't think anybody could say whether it's Dallas, the Giants, Philadelphia, or Washington are the leaders in the clubhouse. I mean Washington won the division, then their record wasn't even a winning record at the end of the day. Pretty much. Yeah, yeah, Well, you gotta find out what player the player procurement part of the year.

We'll bring each of these teams and will they get Dak Prescott signed in Dallas. That's a big bar where the Redskins going quarterback wise. A lot to discuss, obviously with all that, but just a real quick word on Wentz from my perspective, because you know, we are quick as fans and in this case, teams to hit the dump funton, right. I mean, it's insane what's going on now, honestly, because yes, he was the most sack quarterback in the league last year fifty times. He was responsible for the

most turnovers. What was around him also matters, and yes, quarterbacks have to elevate everybody around them. But he's coming off an ACL from seventeen. Do you think that changed? And did he get into bad habits? Is that part of it that they think and you played it? So can you get coached out of some bad habits and resurrect and lead a team that does have many weapons and a powerful running game with a very good offensive line and likely to go with a tackle maybe in

the first round now after keeping their first round pick. Yes, you cun coach players out of bad habits, and he's going to a coach that has already done it. I mean when you look at Frank Reich, he did that with Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck he told him, hey, you can't take the sex you're taking. You can't run down the field and continue to take the hits. That you're taken.

And in one year with Frank Reich, with Andrew Luck, he turned at what even Frank described as a complete one eighty about how he was getting the ball out of his hands, he was making smarter decisions when he started taking off at the ball, sliding, getting out of bounds, all those type of things. Yes, you can coach those things out of a player, and Frank Wreich knows that as he's already done it, and he's already coached this player as well. So they felt very good about this trade.

And they're working relationship previously in Philadelphia. So you know, again, we'll just see how it works out. But I'm with you. I think if you go look at Carson Wentz's numbers, Pat and I compared kid, if you look at Cam Newton's Andrew Luck their Pro day workouts, in their combined workouts, Carson Wentz is right there with him. I mean, this is a big, strong, attic guy. Shoot, he was up for League MVP. That's how will he was playing until

he tours ACL. So I think Frank Field's very certain that they can resurrect his career and get him back playing to the level that he was So are they going to piggyback off of the philip Rivers offense or are they going to deconstruct that offense and introduce a new offense because of Carson Wentz. Because I think, in all fairness to the other guys on the offense, it's better for them to keep the similar terminology that they've

all they've already learned throughout the philip Rivers experiment. Yeah, Phillips is more straight line. They'll be able to do more movement plays with Carson and no offense to Philippa. He'd kind of lost a little bit on his fastball. If you look at Indianapolis, he was spraying the ball around. That's why t Y Hilton wasn't getting as many catches

as he has previously. They may want to resign t Y Hilton now because I think they'll be able to stretch the field more with Carson Wentz at the helm And I think if Frank Reich will tap into that, say hey, this is what Carson can do. He can launch it and launch the long ball, and maybe that becomes more effective. And think about it, up until when Philly went to the Super Bowl, that's all they were doing all year is launching the ball, and that's kind of what put Nick Foles on the map. But Carson

gets hurt, and what's Nick doing. He's doing all those launching the long ball, double move goes, and all those things. They were already doing that earlier in the year, and why Carson was up for league MVP. So I think you can incorporate all that stuff back into Philadelphia or excuse me, Indianapolis's offense now is what it will be with Carson Wentz. All right, Jim Miller, Tom, Jeff, Johnyac. Time for a break. This is Bears All Access on

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or on the Bears official app. Coming up at the bottom of the hour, new defensive coordinator Sean Decide joins the program. All right, Jim. Every quarterback drafted in the first round from two thousand and nine to two sixteen no longer with their original team. Yeah, we're talking twenty two guys. Ten are already retired, not because of great

careers necessarily. That's stunning in and of itself. And then you go further, and now you go to the situation with the number one, one and number two picks in the draft quarterbacks in twenty fifteen, Winston and Mariota, twenty sixteen, Goff and Wentz twenty seventeen, Mitch de Sean. They could be in these categories as well. I mean, I saw somebody tweaked Tom and Jim this hashtag quarterbacks equal risky business.

This is not simple. I know here it's been challenging obviously to find the right a combination of quarterbacks over many, many, many decades. But it's not like it's an acute problem everywhere. Yeah, And it just tells you about the evaluation process, how difficult it is, and what type of system you're gonna put them in, and are you know what's around the young quarterbacks? Are there coaching changes that affect a young player.

There's a lot that goes into it. But I think it does touch on the evaluation process because if you don't have one, I think we know it's difficult to win the NFL. Otherwise you're gonna be watching the playoffs at home on your couch. I mean, let's be honest, right, But you know what though, Tommy, that's we agree. But when you think you have one and then two years later you don't that those are the gut punchers because maybe you've reinvested him, Bears invested, reinvested in Jay Cutler

at that time. You know, you think one thing, and as you say, time, you think you're beat. But this is such a really it's a conundrum. He really is, you know, since Jim and I and you know, you see all these guys drafted. The reason these guys are drafted in the first couple of picks as they do have a poor supporting cast, and then do they ever have a chance to stay healthy long enough or do they surround them with a supporting cast to turn them

into the quarterbacks they were drafted to be. Then you have a guy like Joe Burrow last year, he was the quarterback that you drafted him to be. However, he didn't have the supporting cast, and then he ended up injured late in the season. How will that affect him in this upcoming sea And so it's really a conundrum these guys face when they get drafted that high. Yeah yeah, and another ac to come back from it too, and then you're developing him and the fruits of the labor.

The next team's going to see him, because what's happened to Ryan Tannehill. Tennessee's getting the fruits of the labor that Miami all the things that Tom just mentioned. They weren't a good team, they change coaches, things don't go well, they trade him to Tennessee. Lo and behold, everything comes together for him because although all that experience that he got, and he's mentally tough now and he's ready to really play some good football. And now all the fruits of

that labor is gone to another team. And that's happened to a couple of guys. You know what, We'll see what happens with these quarterbacks moving forward. You know, whether it's you know, even guys like Teddy Bridgewater, who's now you know, five and old. Last year in New Orleans and then Carolina takes a shot him, or what even will happen with Jamis Winston. He may be the guy nowels too emergence. Yeah, Darnel could be another one. Well, you know, I don't know. I'm gonna stick to it.

I I personally, you know, if teams are gonna give up multiple number ones with the hope of getting somebody or moving up in the draft, I just you know, as you just laid out what the Browns did and you saw, I saw there's too many names and a lot of guys that never materialized to anything that they analytically thought we're gonna be nice fits for the Cleveland Browns. That's just one example. I mean, it's it's almost nauseating to think. I just don't want to do that. I

just don't. You know, Well, John Dorsey think about that. He got it right. Buffalo got it right, you know with the Josh Allen who they chose. Obviously, you know, Houston feels that they got it right. The player may want out right now, and that may ultimately happen, and that's something to keep everybody's eye on. But I would think Dak Prescott is another guy if the Cowboys. Don't put the tag on him. Watch the flurry for Dak Prescott.

That guy's got a winning record. He's led that team to the playoffs, and look what they were without them. Because if you don't have one, forget about it. So it's going to be interesting here this offseason. Well, is a good experiment going to be the new England Patriots because here's a coaching staff in place with Bill Belichick and an organization that has an extreme success. When we talk about these other quarterbacks trying to be saviors of

miserable programs, that's not the Patriots. They were down a little bit last year, but now they're not expected to be down anymore because that forgiveness period is over. So if they go out there and they research and they find the quarterback that they believe is their quarterback of the future, is that going to be an example to look at of a successful organization coming back to you know,

the success that it has if it finds that right quarterback. Yeah, and they're probably one of fifteen teams that are in that mix right now. Think about that half the league has a quarterback conundrum. Half the league that are trying to solve it, right now and we'll see how these dominoes fall. Like I said, Dac to me is going to be an interesting guy to watch. Do the Cowboys want to put the second franchise tag on him or

do they work out a long term deal? And he's coming off a injury, But I think Deck would be Garner's serious, serious interest if he does make it to the free agent market and that franchise tag can start being applied just in a few days, five days from now February twenty third, with free agency opening on March seventeenth, that's certainly something in play potentially for wide receiver Allen Robinson.

How do you guys feel about that situation? Start with Tommy, you know, I feel bad that it's come down to this. I really admire everything that Alan Robinson is a distribute have showed what football means to him, how hard of a worker he is, how he is able to recover from injury and still be a serious competitor and contributor to the Bears. But I don't think he can ever look at it just as you're a good player, you always have to put in the business side of it,

and you can ever think about that again. I like Allen Robinson. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him, but you know, I don't want to pay him as the highest receiver in the league. It's just, you know, I don't have the budget. In my mind as as an outsider, I'm looking at Alan Robinson, but he's a super productive guy, and I would pay him as such. I just I just don't know if I could pay him as you know, the top one or two receivers in the league. Yeah. I think right now with the Bears,

I think are over the cap. I think it'd be tough to franchise him. I think you want the player, you want everything that he represents. But you know, if you even look at today Bidwell for the Arizona Cardinals, John Robinson, Jim of Tennessee Arthur Blank. We had Arthur Blank on moving the chains. This is the owner of the Atlanta Falcons who just admits with what teams are going to have to experience with the cap going down,

they're going to have very difficult decisions to make. And I think the Bears are one of those teams with a lot of teams that are gonna have a lot of difficult decisions. Think of the Atlanta folcist. They have six players right now. The cap is only one hundred and eighty million. Six players on that roster account for one hundred and forty million dollars of their CAT six. They got to that's why they released three guys. Yeah,

and that's what's gonna happen. I feel bad for veteran players, honestly. It's it's been that way the last three three to five years, really, and it's gonna get more challenging. Cap did go up to one hundred and eighty million, and Matt Ryan's got forty one million of that on his own right there in Atlanta. All right, when we come back, we're gonna be joined by Bears defensive coordinator. Sean To said, stick around with Tom Fare and Jim Meta. I'm Jeff

Jony Act. This is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. This segment of Bears All Access is brought to you by Athletico Physical Therapy because at Athletico dot Com to request an appointment in clinic or virtually and start feeling better tomorrow with Tom Fare and Jim Metta. I'm Jeff Jony ACCT. Please to be joined by Bears defensive coordinator, Sean, this side still has a nice ring to it now, it doesn't it there, Sean, thanks for joining us. Oh,

thanks for having me. Jess, good to see you, guys. Good to hear you go. Yes, And you had your news conference this week, so you know, and now it's like really of Fisher. You get to mix it up with the media a little bit and hear your vision of what the defense is going to look like. And I particularly loved here and you talk about this is my kind of guy right here. Physical, tough, speedy, smart, some of the keywords to use, and no major overhaul.

These are big things right here for this Bears defense in twenty twenty one. You hate to start completely over right. No, that's absolutely right. And I think we got like a lot of teas in place and we're built for success and we'll built for success now. And it's going to be my job and the rest of these coaches jobs to put our guys in position to make some plays

are they're impactful to help us win games. Hey, Sean, I know you don't remember this, but I remember when you came aboard at Hollis Hall and one Monday morning, it was probably five thirty in the morning, you were coming to get your information from Dave Hendrickson's office, and I asked you what is your long term goal? And you go, I'm gonna be a head coach, And it wasn't I want to. I think I said I'm gonna be.

So when you set your sights as such a young man in terms of the NFL, what steps did you see taking place, whether it was the VIC side or the Chuck Pagano side, that you knew that you were gathering the information and the knowledge to put yourself in this position where you earn the defensive coordinator job. Yeah, well, I hope I in come across as egotistical then, oh no,

not at all. I think for me, everybody should have goals and whatever profession you're pursuing, you know, And for me, it's always to be the best at the job that I've been doing and then to be able to grow from that job, because I think once you do a great job at whatever roles you've been given, you should have an opportunity to grow. If you're around good people that believe in that, then then they'll give you those opportunities.

For so, like you said, you know, eight years ago, or nine years ago when we met and you asked me that question. That was a long term goal, and I didn't know necessarily the path. I mean, you know the steps you got to take, right, but I didn't know how it gets there. And I still don't know

how it gets there. But I knew that if I did a great job in that quality control role and the people around me saw that and noticed that, and I was loyal and hard working and put quality work out and was able to show my communication skills and my relatability to players, that hopefully that would last. And that's kind of the philosophy that I've been ingrained in me from a lot of my mentors early on in coaching,

and that's tried to hold true to that. And fortunately I've been rounds some good people and you've mentioned some, and then ultimately culminates with coaching Aggie and Ryan Paston obviously the Bears organization with George McCaskey and Ted Phillips to give me the shot and to to give me an opportunity interview and then earned the right to become the defensive coordinator. Here well, Sean Jim Miller here, congratulations,

good to talk to you. And you know you've talked about your your mentors, and obviously Vic Fangio and Chuck Pagano they have a history with Baltimore. Now Mike Penton coming on, he's got a familiarity with this style of defense, I mean from from your standpoint and what they've done. And you've probably have taken a little bit of from both and obviously are going to add your your pieces to the puzzle that you want to add to this mix. But what do you love so much about this defense?

Because it has had a lot of success, whether it's in Baltimore, obviously Penton took it to Green Bay and now what's being run in Chicago. Because it has has merits and it has a lot of good background success that it's displayed. That's right, and I think you hit it right there. The biggest thing for me is that it's wistood the test of time. And even though the branches may have split off, like you said, and people have added their own twists, I think if you stay

true to the core philosophy of it. And fortunately for me, h, you know, I've been around Victor longest, and then obviously coach Shuck can even earlier with mel but Vic is the person I've worked with the longest, so I've had a bigger influence that way. I've been able to learn how he built that defense here, and then I was able to learn the transitions of Coach Chuck and the

influences that he brought in. So I see, and I think I'm pretty observant and I try to process information being analytical about it, but I see kind of where and why all this stuff and begun and why it's important we have the answers and the tools to give our players that will allow them to be successful in

the defense. And I think that's what we're going to try to do, you know, try to implement that, make sure they know the whys in the house of why were concert and plays, and then let them let their talents shine through through each of our defensive calls. Sean Desire our guest here on bears All Access. We're brought to you by Igs Energy with Tom Bear, Jie Mother, Jeff Joniac. This is that's something that I think anything

anybody brought up the other day. But when you're now defensive coordinator, I know you were next to Vic in the booth when he was here. What Where do you want to be? Do you want to be on the field, you want to be upstairs? And have you weighed the benefits of both? So sure, I certainly weighed the benefits. I've reflected on it, and I think, you know, if we had to call a game tomorrow, I'd be upstairs. I think we'll go through training camp and the off season and see, but if I had to go call

a game tomorrow, I would be upstairs. I think I see the game really well from up there, and I'll be all the help manage the game with some of the strength that I bring on game day from up there, especially as a first time play caller, I think that that'll be a good setting for me. Even if I need to get down, I'll get down. But for now, like I said, if we had to call a game tomorrow, I'd be upstairs. Shan, you talk a lot about being

a teacher and being an educator. What's the difference in teaching your new coaching staff your defensive scheme as opposed to coaching and teaching the players in a player's classroom. So one difference, I think right now, you know we're going through that process right now. Tom Actually, with the coaches in our self scout and things like that, and we're trying to be really methodical, really slow, really deliberate and intentful to my perspective, We're trying to leave no

stones untar I'm welcoming questions. I want them. I want to dialogue in the room right now, because this is a palm for us to do that. We've got time now to really shore up what we want to do and then, obviously from my perspective, what my expectations are, and then I want to hear the feedback from the coaches. We put together staff with great minds and great experiences for a reason, right, and these guys are not just going to be workers. They're going to be collaborating to

help build his defense. I want everybody on the defense, including the players, to own this defense. This is going to be our effort, and obviously, at the role I'm given, I'll be at the top of that. But this is going to be our defense and it's going to be

twenty twenty one Chicago Bear defense. And I think when you're with the players, based on however this offseason and the training camp goes, but we're going to take a very similar approach we might not be able to spend as many days on it, but it's going to be an interactive approach. It's going to be a collaborative approach. We're gonna ask a lot of questions. They're going to know the why and why every physicians ask to do

a certain role. And I think when you do that, I think people can understand, the players can understand the bigger picture of why a certain calls in play. And then when you're able to do that, I think they buy in a little bit more and they understand, you know, where certain people can win and where some people might have a harder down. Well, you'll have to bear with me, coach. This is a pretty funny story, but I want the listeners to hear it so that they know about the

teaching aspect of football. I always do the Bearest training camp, and so I arrived. I talked to Prince and who come. We had an interview with him one time and he said he was this is almost embarrassing to admit, he said, but I didn't know how to catch until I arrived here with the Bears, And I'm like this. He was a six year player. He's a world champion for the listeners that are out there, and he said, yeah, he goes coach to SI and Eddie Donotel taught me how

to catch. And for the listeners out there, if it's below your belt, pinkies together, if it's above your waist, you know you're normally putting your thumbs and index figures together. He said, But you guys got him on the jugs machine and basically taught a defensive back how to catch. And I think it says a lot about you guys as coaches, because you can't assume anything just because a player signs with your team and he's been in the league for eight years, you can't assume that he knows

everything and doesn't want to strive to get better. And oddly enough, that year he had three interceptions for the Chicago Bears. And I just thought it was an interesting story about you and the coaching staff getting a player better and not assuming that he knows everything. You're always trying to get a player better, much like Prince Amukamara that year. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. She I mean, that's a great example. And the assumption part, I think

you're hit it right in the head. We're not gonnasume anything. Even with the vets that are returning, there's gonna be

some learning that they're gonna have to do. And then, you know, I've always been in the mentality of you should be taking notes every day when you're in that classroom, and if you feel bored because you might know your position, then learn the position next to you, because the more you know about the defense, and the more all eleven of us know how each one of us is responsible to uphold our own weight in the defense, the better will be. And so that that's going to be our approach.

It's gonna be real group or collective effort. Sean Desaire, our guest, you're on Bears all access, a few minutes to go, but who are they? You let the defensive goordinator get home to his family after a day of work as we get you set for Bears Football twenty twenty one. All right, the league is these these offenses are dangerous all across the board. It's the quick game,

it's the slants, it's the short screens. You know, you need guys and every defense in this league, no matter what style, to tackle and to be on the ball as quickly as possible. Otherwise you're you're talking about big plays. No matter what you do, deepest of the deep, it's the stuff that you know kills you on the catch and runs in this league. So that being said, do you feel this defense is the type of tackling defense that you want or is there a ways to go

to be better at that aspect? I think especially with your you know your back seven. Yeah, no, that's a great question. And let me just say this. I think we got really talented guys, and I think there's physical and I think there is still room for improving. And I think I think that's the part that excites me is that we've got guys and you know, one run phrase, they're can always hear me say, and you guys may hear it. Two if you're around me, is that they're

caught on tape. And these guys have been caught on tape in a positive way to show the physicality. And now that the next step there's going to be doing day in and day out on it sits in basis, on the plane of play basis and bringing all eleven hants to the wall. And those are the things I was talking about earlier. You know, on the other day in the press conferences, that stuff is palpable, and then

over time that's like body shots on an offense. And then I mean, how do you what's the first way to eliminate speed of an offense is with physicality, right, I mean toughness and physicality that slows people down. And so that'll be our approach. And I'm excited to get to work with these guys and continue to build on the tools that have been in place here. And then the guys that are younger or sometimes that might need a little bit more refinement, We're gonna have a plan

for them as well. Hey, Sean throughout your NFL career, And I don't mean this question disrespectfully, because sometimes when you gravitate towards the position, that's kind of position that

room you stay in. Have you do you spend or have you spent much time in the defensive line room over the last couple of years, and you know the way you know to see and read the expressions of those guys as well as you know the the positions that you've worked with with the Bears, And so the D line is admittedly so probably my weakest position I've got I think a significant amount of experience with the outside linebackers, the inside linebackers, and obviously the safeties, corners

and nichols. Uh. My experience with the D line is through my interactions with them on the field. I've got great relationships with all those guys in the room and when I'm when I'm on practicing, you guys have seen me. I'm usually hanging around the big guys. Uh. That that's a that's a little bit of a personal touch. I'd like, Um, I like to know what they're thinking. I'd like to

know where their minds are, what they're being taught. And I'm always you know, during special teams if I'm not involved, I've always been hanging out by the old line and D line drills because now it's just another way for me to trying to learn by observing and hearing the coaching points of a Jay Rodgers. So I've got tremendous amount of respect for and then really trying to take notes and study as much as that as I can on my own time, and then ask questions for those guys.

So that's where i think I've built up enough of a report and enough of a background in where uh with a with a guy with a guy like Chris Rump in that room, and then Bill showiep the outside linebacker room, it'll be a good match. Guess. Last one for me, just a quick one. It was great that Jalen Johnson got on the field. He's young players and that's in a COVID world where it was all virtual.

Are you hopeful you'll be able to work with the players, especially the young players, not so much the veterans, but whether it's an OTA some type of set up here this offseason. I know a lot of coaches have already been talking about that. If that's a possibility, Yeah, you know, that's a great question. I really I think I think most coaches are hopeful that they're able to work with their guys in the off season because it's just more

opportunities for teaching and development. And as you've said, especially the younger players, we're the ones that sometimes get a little bit lost in the shelf. A lot of these veterans been on football and they know how to prepare their bodies for the most part, to get ready for a football season. But when you're coming out of college, or you're a rookie or a second year guy, sometimes the learning curve is a little bit longer and harder. Well,

some of these guys opted out. They haven't even played football. It'll be two years now, would you think about it? That's absolutely right. And then that's that's another layers just that you brought up. I mean, it's one thing to keep working out and looking weights and running around on a film. But football, you know, Jim and Tom and all you guys that have played, is is different. When you put on tags, that's a whole different level of

conditioning and physicality. So to me, yes, I'd be welcome to happy you work with as many guys as we can here in the off season, all right, Big Sean will let you go one last one with me. Safeties is what you coached the last couple of years, that relationship with Eddie Jackson, because these safeties in this league now are so critical for playoff success. How important is that for you? Oh? Think it's like you said, it's critical.

I mean Eddie and even Sean last year they were tremendously years for us on the back end, and I think there's gonna be so much room for growth for both of them. And I think Eddie's in such a good spot right now manally where he's excited to come back, and I'm excited to get back to working with him.

And I think we're gonna fair him with the Shay obviously again and Mike Adams in that room is going to be really beneficial to him, and I think he's going to really embrace the roles that we're going to be putting him in next year. All right, Sean, thank you so much for all the time. We hope to talk to you again down the road. All right, Thank you guys, having good mangratulations again, Sean Decide. Bears defensive

coordinator Jim stick around. We'll talk to you a couple of more hour minutes before we let you go, if you don't mind, as we'll continue on here on Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy with Tom Thayer Jim Miller a couple of

minutes with him before he let him go. From a Bears perspective, in terms of what the salary cap, we know they're tight to it um the increase to one eighty with the potential that you know some of the players and the Players Association, the guys that are the player reps in there. They think it's gonna go out maybe to one eighty eight or so. It's still less. But is that enough for teams to make some difficult decisions?

Bears included to clear enough space to make things happen. Yeah, I think for for half the league, yeah, they'll they'll be fine. The other half that I mentioned, they're they're gonna be struggling. Now, I mean they ran, So where do you put the Bears in this category? Um, I think they'll middle their own. Yeah, the level of the road.

I think if they do lock in the TV contracts, it may get up to one ninety potentially one ninety five, but it was scheduled to be over two hundred and twenty million, So there's still that's a thirty million dollar gap. And teams were you know, nobody could predict a pandemic. And you know, you you live on the credit card, you're gonna die by the credit card. I mean a team like a New Orleans. New Orleans is two hundred million dollars over the seller cap. I mean, now that's

no joke. It's two hundred million over. Yeah, they to That's why they just put Drew Brees. They classified him as only a million dollars. That way they could start shifting some money. New Orleans is in bad shape. Atlanta, who I mentioned, has been bad shape. Rams are in bad shape. Pittsburgh is in bad shape. Think about Pittsburgh. In order to bring back Big Ben, he's a forty

four million dollars cap hit. They're gonna have to extend him out if he is to play, and they're gonna have to say, guess what, Big Ben, we need you to take a Tom Brady deal. If you can't take a Tom Brady deal, which is what twenty five million dollars a year, we can't. We can't do this that. Those are the decisions that are gonna have to be made now. If they add three years to his contract,

he's got a fifteen million dollar bonus. Set us here, take him down to million dollars paragraph five, give him a roster bonus, spread it out over three years on a Tom Brady deal. They can do that. They could do that, but you know, it's these things when you're living on a credit card like that, and that's what these teams are. Saints Eagles, who I mentioned Rams. Chiefs are in that situation. Steelers, Packers have submit issues. Falcons are in that world. There's gonna be a world hurt.

Now they'll be think about the Rams as a team that I just mentioned. So they've got Aaron Donald, they got Jalen Ramsey. Now they just added the quarterback, and they've got a few other Andrew Whitworth, same thing. They got about six guys. The rest of their team will be undrafted free agents in lower round draft picks that

will be that j Jim. Do you do you think this lessens the options for JJ Watt because if he wants some enormous salary to bring his personality with him, but he's not going to be able to be offered that, You know, I seriously so, I think as JJ Watt willing to accept what he's gonna be paid according to the new salary cap. Yeah, but for him, it's all about winning. So he's going to target a team that does have cap space. Say Cleveland. Okay, Cleveland's got cap space.

They just went to the playoffs. They feel their head in the right direction, and JJ can say I'm gonna be opposite Miles Garrett. Yeah, in the same division. With his brothers on the Pittsburg I mean, I don't see them honestly, I mean, is this really gonna happen? Yeah, I mean so, I think that's what he's targeting. So I think Green Bay's an interesting you know, could he go home there and I'm sure they could do some things cap wise to fit him in. I think that

sounds great. But I think like a team like Cleveland would really intrigue him. Obviously Aaron Rodgers and his success, and he'll think about things like that. I would think for him, where do you guys feel he's at career wise? I think Tom, both you guys. I'd sign him to a three year deal and he'll probably make two of those. I would think, you know, he's still a good player. Um, but uh, you know, for him, it's about winning right now. So I don't I think he's gonna get good money,

but I don't think it's for him. I think it's about winning. I really believe that, and he'll take a little bit less to be a part of a winner. What do you think I think JJ? I think JJ Watt is still a good story. He's intriguing in the year in the world of social media, where he can go out and tell his teammates how dissatisfied he was with some of their efforts throughout the football season. But you know, JJ Watt to me, I think I'm getting damaged goods. If I'm gonna be an offense, that's I'm

gonna look at a point of attack. I'm going at JJ Watt repeatedly. I'm gonna make him defend himself against big offensive tackles, tight ends, and offensive guards. So you know, I don't think I'm gonna let him be the best player on my defense in order to lead me to a super Bowl. All Right, big Jim, We're gonna let you go. Appreciate it. Talk to you next week. Thank you. All right, guys, Always gonna be with you. Good to

be with you, Bears fans. When shopping for your game day celebrations, don't forget to pick up your favorite variety of Lais potato chips in tostitos. Tostitos and ladies are an essential part of the game day tradition. The official chip of your Chicago Bears. Go Bears. Tom remaining moments with you, want to talk about Terko and I see his his tweet start you know he's into the rehab now and it's a lot of work. It's a lot

of work, he admits it. It's probably he's never gonna have had to work as hard as he is right now to get himself back from ato torn acl early in the season to get himself So from your experience with teammates that have gone through this and that offseason after signing a nice contract, he got a nice contract from the Bears, what that challenge is like to prove you know, you're worth every penny of that after injury, right, But we have examples of extraordinary work ethic that can

get these guys back on the field effectively. So Alan Robbins is a perfect example, and Adrian Peterson years ago. So you know, Jeff, when you sit there and you look at guys that it takes him two and a half years to recover, then I did I would question some of the work ethic or work effort they put into getting back on the field. To me, I see Charik Cohen as a super energized guy. That it is hard.

It's hard getting the confidence back that you can do everything that's required of you in order to get back on the football field. But you know, after having back surgery and knee surgeries. It's more the confidence that you have to have in yourself to go in the weight room and take a squat bar off the rack that has four or five or six hundred pounds loaded on it and then bend your knees and all of a sudden, you go, Wow, I'm back. I'm earning my way back to where I need to be in order to be

the player I was before and going forward. So I don't I think because of there's recent examples of extreme success after these types of operations. I think it's it's more it's more of a motivator than thinking, oh, I have to take a couple of years to recover from this. I think it's the mindset you have well, and I think he's got that. He worked his tail off in college works. You know. I've done plenty of features on

him going back into his background. I got a Eddie Goldman question because there've been a few players that opted out that have already been let go by their teams in advance of twenty twenty one season, and we talk about, well, they took a year off from football. What's the difference between taking a year off from football where you didn't have the day to day contact and your body's refreshed,

so to speak. Versus a player coming off an injury that's suffered in training camp and he misses the whole year and he's coming back after not playing from football. There can't be a negative attached to it, I hope, because you know what I'm saying to me, it would be like a rookie with experience, because Eddie Goldman has only been around for a couple of years. But we see what he's been able to contribute to the Bears.

Now he's set the reset button. He stayed away from football for a year, and hopefully he was dedicated to the room or to the weight room. That's not evidence that we've been able to see yet, but he was dedicated to a work ethic during the COVID season that he opted out. He should come in here like a first high first round draft choice immediately. Well, I mean he's still young. That's the big part of it too. I know. Well, let's see, let's do in the math.

He's twenty seven years old, still Tommy, and he's already played sixty seven NFL games with the Bears over a five year period, so that's still fresh legs coming in and according to Sean Decay this week, says that he clearly has been in touch with him at some point

because he said he missed it. Well, you know some guys, Yeah, some guys, that's when they start hitting their stride in their mid to upper twenties and then they in Now, Eddie Goldman's kind of a different character because he has experience of playing next to a Keem Hicks, playing through

a different couple styles of defense. Then he again rewarded with the contract because of what they believe as future ability and contributions to the team will be Well, he's gonna run into a brand new Balal Nichols after what he learned confidence. Why is this past season? I mean it's gonna be. I mean that's a that's a bonus if you ask me. All Right, we're out of time, Big Tom gotta go. Thanks to all our producers Jordan trut Up, Dan Brilli, and Adam Stadsinski. Tonight thanks to

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