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week of Bears All Access. I'm Jeff Joning Aclam a broadcast partner Tom Payer from news Radio one oh five nine WBBM and coming up shortly joined by Jim Miller from Serious XMNFL Radios, moving the chains. He's down in Mobile, Alabama, work in the Senior Bowl practices day two today. And now we are some snippets from this week's introductory news conferences introducing head coach Matt Iberflus and general manager Ryan Poles.

We'll get to the news of the day as well, but welcome in Tom Thayre, Tom, how you how you doing this week? Asking all the details of what we said at the podium and the news conference early in the week, and then the slow process, maybe not so slow process because they're making some hay and filling out those coaching assignments, and that's a big part of this

right now. You know. Initially, yeah, you listen to the statements they make up at the podium, how they introduce themselves to the media, the general public of the Chicago Bears fans and you and I and you kind of take in what they have to say a little bit about the process of how they went about getting the job,

everything they've done up unto this point. And then you start reading in the backgrounds of some of the teams that they worked with, and you think about some of the teams that the experiences they gain from there, and then all of a sudden, you start reading about the assistant coaches that are being hired, the years of experience they have, the relationships they've already been able to develop, because you need some of those obstacles already taken care of.

You know, Matt Eberflus doesn't need to walk into a building and introduce himself to every single one of his assistant coaches. I think when you try to put a plan in place and you have already rubbed elbows and some of the most difficult experiences of your coaching life with some of these guys. I think it's ultimately beneficial

to what you're going to try to build here. And today the defensive staff starting to fill out with defensive coordinator Alan Williams, Tom so much familiarity with the system, going back to two thousand and one entering the league with Tampa Bay and at that time Tony Dungee Lovey Smith. So it's a disciple of this. He's been coaching for thirty years, he's been a defensive coordinator before, and he'll be calling the place right. And I mean it's extreme trust.

Whenever Matt Eberflus is going to bring on these guys along, and especially the guys in the coordinator positions, you have to have trust because when you go from a coordinator and you have a lot of responsibilities on your desk and what you do in the game, how you get them prepared and practice and what the reflection of how they play is directly placed upon you. Now you're handing that over. That baton is going to another group of guys that you're expecting from what was expected out of

you at a defensive coordinator. Now, what do you expect out of your new defensive coordinator. What do you expect the process of your offensive coordinator a going to be And just like all the other position coaches. So now that Matt is in the position where he's the head coach, he's making a lot more decisions on both all three sides of the ball. When you think about you know what he's going to try to do here with the Bears organization and how he's going to turn these guys

into Division champs. Linebacker coach will be Dave borg Ganzi. He's had a great deal of experience as well well. Regarded his work with Darius Leonard there in Indianapolis a significant piece to this puzzle, and he was also with him with the Dallas Cowboys and then the offensive line coach. I was waiting for my phone during today, didn't hear it? You're busy shoveling snow today. Offensive line coaches Chris Morgan, coming over from the Steelers where he was assistant offensive

line coach. Then when Adrian Clem left for Oregon, he became the offensive line coach by himself for the final three games of the season. They won games and went to the playoffs. But his bigger resume is with the Atlanta Falcons. Tom so that outside zone under Kyle Shanahan the offensive coordinator when they go to the Super Bowl in twenty sixteen, and that was enormously successful there, and he was the run game coordinator there as well. Yeah,

I mean he's got plenty of experience. You know, you talk about these guys with double digit years of service in the NFL and then when you're the head offensive line coach and then all of a sudden you go to a different team like the Pittsburgh Steelers. In one of the Pittsburgh Steelers foundations of success over the years has been their defensive style of play and their offense

and their offensive running game. And when you look at what the Pittsburgh Steelers had on the offensive line, he was trying to get rookies ready to play at the center position. You're trying to, you know, take injuries and

COVID into account. So I think all the experiences that some of these assistant coaches have gone through in the last couple of years are not only building blocks for the future, but it also understands how do you coach under some of the worst circumstances, and you know, how do you persevere through all these trying times that we've gone through in the last couple of years. Yeah, I'm more concerned about, you know, what is their ability to

develop players, And that's really the key. Teaching them is one thing, Developing is another. And I think a Luke Getzi coming in, his offensive coordinator coming here, and that will be an interesting situation with a young guy. Will hear from Joe Moorehead, a coach of his back in the day at the University of Akron where coach Moorehead is at right now. Obviously a lot of great things

to say about this former quarterback. And you're hearing things out of Green Bay from Aaron Jones what the Bears are getting and there they believe they're getting somebody special. Hey, you know, when Dick Stanfield was our offensive line coach, you could take so much into account of what he was teaching you because he was a former offensive lineman, just like Luke. Here. If I'm a quarterback, I want

to hear from a former quarterback. I want to hear from a guy that stood behind center and shot gunner directly behind center. It made decisions according to the information that was given to him, with the coverages and the defensive front. So when you took you look at a guy justin fields and where his ability can take this football team, and Kate take him individually. I like that

message being delivered by a former quarterback. And there's a report from NFL Media's Ian Rappaport the Bears maybe close to hiring former Giants receivers coach Tyke Tolbert. He's been around a long time time, been with five different NFL teams since two thousand and three, and a very respected assistant. That's not done yet, not official, but that says somebody to keep an eye on as well. And coming up next we'll be joined by Big Jim Millertown. We'll get

the show going. Our weekly guest here on Bears All Access with our producer today, Brandon Fryer. I'm Jeff Joniac. That's time there. I want to be time there one day. Thanks as well to Dan Burrelli and Jordan tredap This is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access or brought to you by IGS Energy. Choose clean energy for your home at IGS dot com because every good choice adds up to a better world.

With top fare Jeff joniaka. This week's edition of Bears All Access please to be joined by our special guest each week. He's from Sirius XM's NFL Radio, the former Bears quarterback Jim Miller joining the program from Mobile, Alabama ign Umbrella today down there, Big Jim. Yeah, the Fawcet was definitely open. It was often on and off rain all day, so for both the American club in the in the National club, you know, and it's something you get the scout though. Can the guys play in the elements?

You know? There were some bad football thrown today. There were a lot of drop balls today by the receivers because the ball got a little slick. And then everybody's getting a good intel that they need in inclement weather down here in Mobile. Yeah, with the New York Jets in Detroit and Line a run of the show for their respective squads, and we'll talk about some of that in detail coming up here later in the show, Jim. But Tom and I just was we're just talking about

the assistance that have brought in. Get your overall reaction on what you heard from Mattieberflus, the new head coach of the Bears and Ryan Poles, the new general manager early in the week. Yeah, well, you know, like anything, it's it's important. You've got to get this staff in place, and you know, because again, these are the guys that are going to be delivering the message. And you know, coach Ebert Fleus, he's been in the NFL for for a long time. He's acquiring the guys that he wants,

that he believes will deliver that message. And they have to have the buy in from him too, right, you know, so these guys have to be the ones to sell it. So I was actually down here I talked to Bears analyst Tom Herman, so I talked to him quite a bit today as he's getting to know this new staff as well. So, you know, pretty exciting times. And again there's still five teams that you know, don't even have

a head coach right now. So this is big when you're able to acquire guys now and add them to your staff before the cupboard is bear, so to speak, because you know, you look at the Raiders in Jacksonville. They've been the longest without their head coaches and they still even you know, Raiders just got theirs in Josh McDaniels. But you look at Jacksonville, they're still searching right now.

So this is a good thing that eber Flus is really getting this all done pretty quickly, and two coordinators are locked up. Luke getsy they get him from Green Bay. Allen Williams, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think for Luke he had a couple offers, obviously went out there and interviewed for the Denver Broncos comes with great resources and bringing along Aaron Rodgers, I think we

know how terrific he is. And then the other guys certainly know the system of Eberflus when you look at Alan Williams there for the Colts, and I believe you just mentioned that the linebackers coaches is added as well, So that system they're going to get up and running pretty quickly, I would think defensively from that standpoint. So yeah, I like the guys that they've fired so far. Okay, Tom Fair, Jimmy Butter here on Bear's All Access will

break it down over the course of the evening. US what this means for the Bears here in twenty twenty two, how they hut the ground and running So boys, Tom We'll start with you. We go to a four three defense, that'll be the base defense. Anyway, we know Nichols played significantly in this league. So how how does this begin to affect certain players that may be on this roster. Some guys may not be because of a switch to

a four to three. But I think of a guy like Roe Kuant Smith playing that inside linebacker I'll buy himself there and a true middle linebacker in this four three? Is that an assumption or can he play outside in this four three? Okay? Jim, I gotta ask a question with a question, because I just want to clarify things, Jim, when you're down there at the senior ball, do they play a four three defense or they play a thirty

four defense? Or do they play a scheme? According to the head coaches there, No, no, it'll be It'll be a four three defense is what it was. There was discussion to have one B a three four in one B a four three, but that kind of fell through, and so they strictly go through a four three defense down here. Okay, so now you get a chance to evaluate some players that could be key components to your

football team going forward. But when I look at the Bears personnel and because of the Jeff you know and Jim, these defenses morphed to every defensive front that you could possibly face during the course of one a game, let alone a season. So is there a position that I don't think Roquan Smith will be comfortable with. No, It's just that when you go from a three four defense and you're always standing above an offensive lineman and you're unprotected,

So that offensive lineman is you're his responsibility. He can fight directly at you, fire off the ball. But now when you're Roquan Smith and you put him in the middle of a defense and you have defensive tackles that are there to protect you allow you to run with a little bit of freedom. I think that even exposes you to more opportunities in that type of defensive play. And we've seen throughout the history of the Chicago Bears.

I think the key is, you know, are the Robert Quinns and the Khalil Max do they have the ability to fit into this defensive style and can they do what's required of you and those positions. But a guy like Roquan Smith, I think this is the type of guy that has the talent that could play with intelligence, with the physicality, with the athleticism that he's gifted with, and could be an asset in any defense you want

to put him in. Yeah, I think it's definitely going to affect guys that you mentioned in terms of the two outside backers, or even Trevis Gibson, right, he was a defensive end in college now has learned to be a stand up backer. Now will he go back to defensive end? We would be the question I have for

Roquan Is it middle backer? Yeah? I think he's got the speed of say Darius Leonard, and he's going to be a tackling machine whether he's at mike or will you know is or do they move him to say the Lance Briggs weak side linebacker position, because he's a running hit guy. He's a heat seeking missile. So I think all those will will be determined, but clearly some

players will be affected in how they're going to be utilized. Typically, when you look at this style of defense, you know, I go back to even Robert Mathows and when everybody thought he was too young or too small to play defensive end. That's the style of defense that they're The Bears are going to be utilizing now. So this is a Colts defense. He better have on your track shoes, is what I believe coach Eeberflu said. And there will be no loafing. Let's just put it that way. There

will be no loafing. This is gonna be a legit, speedy defense that he's gonna gonna be installing. How about Jim, How does this affect the guy like Gettie Jackson? Um, No, I think you know they're still gonna rock and roll the safeties from that standpoint, So I think Eddie will be a player that fits right in from that standpoint. Um, most teams do it around the NFL because coverage is coverage from that standpoint. But you know, you got to be able to, like I said, fly to the football

and you know, make the do it. You know, that's one thing that the Colts have done. They've gotten a lot of turnovers over the past couple of years, and so that's what the Bears want to get back to. We go back to what was that twenty eighteen when they had thirty four and it hasn't really happened. From that standpoint, Eddie Jackson has to get more turnovers. From that standpoint, that's really where they want the impact to be.

That in the secondary. You know, you gotta think, you know, past guys that we've seen over their career of a Mike Brown or a Tony Parrish and these types of guys. I think there's a certain element of a physical style play that when you talk about two safeties in this four man front, they got to be able, like Jim says roll, you know, frontward and backward during the course of a canes. But they also have to be physical

when they approach the line of scrimmage. They got to be physical in the defensive backfield, and they also have to be reading, you know, good readers on what's going up in front of them if they are gonna you know, you know, kind of recapture the turnovers that the Bears used to be able to produce. I think Chris Harris too, who you know, went by the nickname of hit Man hit Man, was a vital part of that as well.

And then I think about Lovey always talking about Jim and tom about Tommy Harris and the three technique defensive tackle being the engine of the defense. So who would that engine be on the current roster? Bile Nichols. He's a type of guy that has versatility on the inside. He can play out of a right or left handed stance. He can slide over from the left guard to the right guard with equal balance. He knows how to play

on the interior. He has the experience of playing on the interior when Eddie Goldman opted out two years ago. So I think if you have to plug a guy immediately in place, they do have a guy that can fulfill that role. However, that's a unique position. You're looking of traits of explosiveness at the line of scrimmage and at the snap of the ball that sometimes offensive lineman

have a hard time catching up to Big Jim. It's going to affect I think, you know Eddie Goldman, I think he you know, he's a big, run stuffing defensive tackle. Not that you still don't want the girth. I do believe that, ever, flu's gonna wap the girth. But I'm with Tom. I think now you're looking for a penetrator.

Now you're looking for a guy like a Javon Hargrave type of player, and they are in Donald type of player, a three technique that is a penetrator that can really, you know, get through, slide through those gaps and really be disruptive from that standpoint. And who knows, may not be on the roster right now, and that's why we're down here in Mobile and we'll see what opens up in free agency that potentially could be added to the mix.

All right, let's take a listen for a sit down interview I did with general manager Ryan Poules this week up in Hollis Hall. You know, starting in New York playing high school football and then going to Boston College, having a good career, and then the best thing is, you know, the opportunity that I got was here in Chicago with the Bears, and it's just really cool to see how that went full circle to be back here as a general manager. What resonated with you the process

with Chairman of the board George McCaskey and his crew. Yeah, the first thing, I'll say, first impressions are important to me. And the fact that George went to the airport and picked me up at baggage claim. I thought that was special and I truly value people in relationships and when that happened, and for him to spend extra time with me in the car to get to know me on a deeper level. I knew everything I needed to know before I even walked in the building. So it's been

really good to get to know George well. Your exposure to the Bears as a rookie is significant also because I believe and he correct me if I'm wrong. But Virginia McCaskey speaks to the rookies every year. Yeah. So in two thousand and eight, you were in that room when you heard from Virginia McCaskey, so you already had a pretty good knowledge of what it means to her and to their family. Do you remember that moment back

in two thousand and eight? I do. I do. I remember how much pride she had about the Chicago Bears, and I remember a lot of the stories just in terms of how deep rooted the history is here. The other thing that wasn't brought up is we went to the Hall of Fame with Gall Sayers actually okay, and to hear him speak as well was just a really cool moment. Yeah, there's this place dripping with history, It's no question about it. And you think about all these

big names. Was this always something that you wanted to do? Personnel management in football, because if not football, was this going to be the path for you? Or was this just something that just came about. Yeah? No, When I walked in as a scouting assistant back in two thousand and nine, once I got my feet underneath me and I started to understand the scope of really how the front office works and how building a team works. I wanted to be a general manager and put my hands

on an organization and lead them to a championship. You have a mission statement for this team because you're used to winning, I mean a lot in Kansas City. Yeah, my mission statement really to get this thing kicked off is to take over the North and never give it back. Simple is that It's simple, hard to do. Simple is that exactly? That's a great goal. There's a lot of

work to do. What's your philosophy and drafting. For the draft philosophy, it's really to understand how to tie evaluation with valuation, when and where to pick certain players on the board and have that feel is important to me. I believe in building the foundation with offensive lineman and a defensive lineman, and obviously supporting our quarterback with giving him the most weapons that we can possible offensively digging in the trenches. Do you value growing your own say

versus free agency? Yeah, homegrown talent. That is critical to have long term success, and I think that's important. There's shortcuts at every turn in building a roster, so it takes discipline to do it the right way. And if you do it the right way and you keep those homegrown talented players that you have drafted and sign them the second contracts once they've deserved them, then you're cooking. What kind of team you want want to see? Yeah, I want to see a tough, violent and fast team.

Putting it in perspective very quick. I like it. Skill sets and traits aside what type of person it will be a bear moving forward? You know, it's critical. We're gonna in the draft room. We're gonna label players with a bear logo to have toughness and passion for the game. I've found through history, if you have those two things plus the skill set, you're gonna go far. You're gonna make the team, and also you're gonna affect the culture. All right. Tell me about Mattieberflus and is there a

relationship from the past that we may not be aware of. Yeah, So the big thing is I had a criteria of what the head coach needed to look like and what characteristics he needed to have, and the moment that Matt walked into the room, he was able to check all of those boxes. He was passionate about the game. He was a leader, he can motivate the team. He valued players more than anything. He wants to put players in a position to succeed as much as possible. And then

the biggest thing is just having a detailed plan. Matt had a detailed plan that had multiple layers to it, and that's what got me excited, and I was convicted that he was the right person. Did you guys know each other before? We had bumped into each other before. Obviously, when you know, you watch other teams and you get a feel for you know, what units are playing. Really well, that's a reflection on who you are. So I made sure that I was able to mate him in the past.

I think it was like a year ago we got a chance to bump into each other. So there's a little bit of history there and I'm excited to work with you. It sounds like they're hitting the ground running two from everything we hear up there and at the Senior Bowl as well. Start with Tom just on your overall reaction. Some of that we heard in the news

conference as well, that was before the news conference. It's just amazing at two thousand and eight, when this journey began and where it is at this point in his young life. I just I hope all the success that you know that he can possibly have, because I think it's the first time in a long time that we've heard the foundation is the offensive defensive line, and it isn't. Again I always sound like a broken record, but it's

the truth of the matter. If you do want to have a violent, physical, fast football team, your speed comes from the effectiveness of your offensive defensive line. If Rokuan Smith is going to run well as a middle linebacker or a will linebacker, it's because he's getting protected by big defensive lineman up front. And I have generations of watching historic Hall of Fame defensive lineman protect and help a guy like Mike Singletary have the type of career

he has. If you want to be fast on offense, if you want to have explosiveness, you got to be able to block up front. You have to have the reputation of being a physical offensive lineman. That kind of sells the program to the rest of your offensive players. So when I hear a young guy like Ryan Poles talk for the first time to you again the journey from two thousand and eight to where we're at, but also the influence how the offense and defensive line has

to have on the overall success of this organization. Jim, you know, like you said, you want the team to represent. If he's talking about a fast, physical team, we always talk about it. Say the Baltimore Ravens. They have a scene, right we play the Raven Way or the new the Patriot Way. So the Bears want to have that identity.

So in order to identify that type of talent of what you're trying to represent, to be able to cultivate and develop that talent, whether it's in drafting, whether it's in free agency, and what those players represent, you know, and how they play. So there has to be an identity or identifier that those players fit what the Bears are trying to do and take pride from that standpoint and how they're doing it and what they're going to

represent it. You know, I laugh even at the Raiders when you know Mike Mayock, who's no longer there as a general manager. When they were down here at the Resa Senior Bowl coaching it, they would put stickers, a Raiders sticker onas that they identified they wanted the Raiders to represent. So you'd get a Raiders sticker if you made a quote unquote a Raider play, and that's the

type of player that you wanted. If you're gonna wear their colors, you need to represent in your style of play and how you identify with how they wanted to play. And that's what I think the Bears and obviously Ryan Poles, that's what he wants to identify and that's what he's going to go after. Tom and Jim both will get Bears Bears stickers, no question about it. We'll talk with Matt Eberflus coming up next my interview with him. This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

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in Mobile, Ababama. We'll talk to him about Senior Bowl practices and just a bit, but we'll continue our conversations with the new regime and this includes Matt Ebervolous, the head coach and former defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts. All right, so you pull up the house all the first time and you see the big CF, but you see George Hollis. Yeah, okay, you're doing what he did? Right? How does that resonate with you? It's it's really surreal

when you think about it. You know, a legendary coach like George and unbelievable the records that he is accomplished in the championships and to uphold the standards okay, in the habits of victory that he had. And I'm up for that challenge and excited to get to work with that. What moment in your career or even playing, did you think you know what, I am going to be a head coach? And then when you felt you were ready

to be a head coach? Yeah, I've always said this that you know, became a defensive coordinator at twenty nine in the Big twelve, I was the youngest coordinator in the country. And you get put into that position and you just go. You just put your head down and work. You know, one action at a time, Just one action at a time. Now, you know you're talking to Now, I'm fifty one with more experience, you know, so I've

been you know, waiting for this opportunity. Obviously have a plan in place to accomplish what we need to accomplish. But it comes back to the same thing. It's one action at a time, making wise decisions, one action at a time of what we're going to see on the football field. And that's what matters. Why was this an attractive job? Just a tradition of the historic franchise of

the Chicago Bears. You know when you go through it, and you know, sure, I might have had a couple of choices here and there at the very end of it, and I chose this place because of the men and the franchise. You know, George McCaskey, Ryan Poles, and those are the guys you want to be in the foxel with because it's good. You're gonna have adversity, you're gonna have victories. Who do you want to be in with. Who do you want to be with in those moments?

And those are the guys that I chose. What's job one in terms of what you address? Roster wise? Yeah, roster wise, just to evaluate, to evaluate and see where we are, you know, because you know we're making the shift from a three four to a four to three. That's one. You know, evaluate our offensive line, that's that's number two. You know where's our receivers, you know, quarterback, everybody really and just to evaluate it and see where we are and then you know where you are now

you can know where you're going. So that's most important. What do you want players to know about you? That what they're about to get into is going to be the hardest thing they're ever going to do, but it's going to be worth it. Why will it be so hard? Because the work patterns that we're going to have on a day to day basis when we get onto the football field and the preparation leading up to that is something they've never done before. And it's going to be

the hardest thing. And I always tell them that, I say, it's it's one year. I said, when I come back to you after one year, I want you to say, if what I said to you, it's the hardest thing you'll ever do, was it true? And every player that I've ever said it too, says, Coach, you weren't lying. True. Well, it's also in many respects, if you're not willing to do it, you won't be a part of it. So those that do stay and enjoy the process and find

out that you have their best interests at heart. You want to put them in the best position to succeed, and that's all part of it. Does that come back to you as well? Yeah, non't doubt. This is a partnership. You know. You're you're working with NFL players, you know, So it's all about the players, you know. So to me, it's a partnership. So how can the coach serve the players? You know? So me is the head football coach serve

the whole football team? Coach the coaches? And then how can each position coach really serve the guy he's working with. It's it's truly a partnership to be able to get to where we want to get. But Jim, you know, I hear that, and the hardest hardest thing you're ever gonna do. When I hear that about a football player, because a lot of these guys or wherever they came from around the country, parts unknown, from their high school level to their college days to the NFL, have their

own definition of what's the hardest thing to do. But when you heard that, did it? Did it jog something in your memory of your hardest thing you ever had to do to get to get on a team. Well again, yeah, the buying factor, I think it needs to be there. I'll never forget when Dick Turon became the head coach of the Bears, and I remember there's very few coaches

ever say this. If Dick turn says, hey, we chose everybody in this room, like when he has his mission statement meeting and we're all in the auditorium and we're about to, you know, we get done with our last you know, minicamp, and he said, Hey, everybody in this room is here for a reason. We chose you to be here and represent the Chicago Bears. If anybody in this room doesn't want to be here, just come to me and I will find a home for you somewhere else.

Because that coach needs to know that you're all in and it is the hardest thing that you're ever going to do. But you've got to be all in from that standpoint, right, Why did Tom Brady just retire? He said, I couldn't be all in anymore, you know, he can't be half in, can't be a quarter of the way in. You've got to be all in in order to make the that commitment. And that's when I think coach Eberflus

is really talking about there. You know, back in the old days when training camps used to be as hard as they could possibly be, and there was a new coach coming on board, everybody dretted it because they knew they were about to go through the most physical, exhaustive training camps or maybe of their career if you don't

go through multiple coaching changes. But when you look at Matt Eberflus coming in here, the one thing that's going to make it so hard is because you're digesting new information. Not only do you have to play at a speed that they're expecting an NFL caliber player to play at, you're also trying to dissect new information and learn it

so you can use it efficiently. And then there's gonna be guys that are gonna have position changes and that's as difficult as you can possibly try to, you know, perform at the level they expect, change positions, maybe balance in different things. And then it's their coaches. They got to weed out the guys that are the non competitors. And it's all there's a lot of factors that come into play. When Matt Eberflu says this is going to be the most difficult challenge all of their lives, and

it is gonna be. But I think that's the process that every one of these guys have to try to put into place, is figure out the guys that you can count on in a weekly basis that are gonna give the effort that's expected from you. When you talk about these loafs and stuff, because the worst thing you want to do, Jeff, is going to a meeting after a game and they said, oh, so and so you had five loafs, so and so you had. That's humbling

and embarrassing in front of your teammates. So when you are called out for those types of things, it's gonna challenge at what level that you can play, perform and practice at. You know, we often say that the game has changed, the people have changed in the game both the coaches and the players and how they've been raised, so to speak. In the college game, the rules changes, the minimization of padded practices, the time between practices changing, uh,

lack of double days and all that. Jim, do you think that guy like Matt who's in you know, he's fifty one, but as he said, he's been coaching his whole life. He's played, he was a walk on uh Toledo, and had to earn his way to get onto that roster. And you know, it seemed like coaching was in his in his future, no matter what where it was going to be. And he's risen through that through the ranks in that fashion. Can you make those statements the same

way with today's guys? Um? Yeah, I just think things are in reverse. You know, things used to trickle you know, trickle down like you know. I always bring up the example when I was at Michigan State, George Purlis was the coach there, right, he was the defensive coordinator of

the Pittsburgh Steelers. We did everything like the Steelers did, from how we practiced, how our uniforms were made, Uh, even the block ass right, because Pittsburgh only headed on one side of the other helmet in terms of their So we did everything like them. Now it's almost reverse.

There is a trickle up effect, right, look at the influence of the college game on the NFL game, and in college coaches would even say that about the high school level now and how players come out of high school because they're all running wide open offenses, and how that trickles up to college. So it's just somewhat in reverse, is what I'd say. What's happening now the trend in

the NFL. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll talk justin fields and how the Bears offense will look with new coordinator Luke Getsy, head coach Mattie Reflus and his staff. It's all ahead here on Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. To score this segment of Bears All Access is brought to you by CDW people to get it, Jeff jon Act, Tom Fair, Jim Better from Serious Sex,

m NFL Radio. ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting Fellas that Jim Harbaugh is telling University of Michigan he will stay there for as long as they want him. Jim. Well, that's a good thing. I think everybody was a little bit nervous because a doleful mensa the general managers spend some time in San Francisco and was there when Jim Harbaugh was there. So I wonder if Jim Harball got his raise back. He did to take a pay cut to stay there, so maybe that was a part of the

deal for Jim Harball. You just wonder if that's the case. That's stuff that always happens behind closed doors. I think so, you know, I gotta tell you him getting his money back, if that was the reason why he went back to Michigan, then I really don't I don't respect that very much because Jim has made such an abundance of money. The little bit he's gonna make up. If Michigan decided to, hey,

let's let's give you back what you know. You know that was taken away from you, I think you got to do a service to the kids that you're out there recruiting. If you're sitting out there recruiting all these kids and telling all these parents what a model citizen you are and what you're going to bring their kids to Michigan to be, you know, a board, and then you go out there and you say, okay, Minnesota, dangle a carrot in front of me so I can go

out there and test the waters in there. You know, I think that, Well, he made no bones about it. He was telling the recruits. He was actively trying to get back in the NFL. So it's not like he was hiding it from that standpoint. But like I said, I don't think it sits well with a lot of parents out there. But you know, I think he was pretty open about it that he was interested in returning. But to me, I think that affects That affects the

parents and the kids that you're out there recruiting. So if it's not going to happen this year, what's telling me that it's not going to happen in a year when somebody out there goes and make such Jim Harball, all right, instead of you having use of a private plane, we'll give you a private plane. Well he did say he's got He told Michigan that you know you're here as long as you want me. So he did say that, So we'll see what happens. That's according to reports anyway.

All Right, Joe Moorehead is the head coach chat Akron. He was once at Penn State as a coordinator and had a chance to visit with him about Luke Getsy because he was Luke Getzy's college coach. Yeah. I've done Luke for a long time since he was a player at Cia Rally High School in Pittsburgh, you know, through his time as a player of pitt and then came to play for US at Akron and then started his

coaching career here as a graduate assistant. Tremendous success in the NFL a couple of different stops, and then with US at Mississippi State. So very well earned opportunity. And I know Luke will did a great job. What's he like as a coach? Very cerebral, always well prepared, a great communicator, a expert of fundamentals and technique, and a guy who understands offensive football protections, run James route concepts at an incredibly high level. Did you see coach in

him as a player? I did. And you know, Luke was a fringe NFL guy, you know, got into camp with the matters and I think that was the extent of his experience. But it's it didn't take long to identify that if he wasn't playing, he would he would be involved in the sport and sold capacity and you know this sartainly, coaching was in his future at some point.

It used to be that, you know, a guy your age would be considered a young coach in your forties, and I would look at, you know, sixties and fifty year old coaches as the as the standard. But now a bunch of thirty somethings are really starting to make an impact. Obviously you look at the Super Bowl and you can see that right there. What do you think of that as a coach, that these younger coaches have really started to make the rise into top positions in

the National Football League, getting college football. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean it's great for those guys to get their opportunity and take advantage of it. Certainly at forty eight, I mean I'm a literal great beard, not a figure of great Beard, so I sold towards still have probably a little gas left in the tank. But yeah, I mean that's just a you know, you know the nature of the game and the nature of the profession that guys are, you know, getting into organizations maybe in the

quality control or uh you know, gradual assistant capacity. They're paying their dues, they're getting their opportunities, and you know they're doing a great job with them. And you know, you just see a bunch of as you mentioned, I think it is is a bit of a trend. You know, guys, guys in their thirties, uh, you know, rising to prominent roles within NFL organizations. What will you tell us about his personality as a coach and then what was his

personality like as a player? Are they one of the same. He is incredibly competitive, possesses a ton of confidence, but he's very composed. Uh So when when you when you get to know Luke and you meet him for the first time, you think maybe he's a little quiet, you know, a little reticent, very analytical, But when it when it comes to the to the preparation part of it and the game part of it, you know you're you're not

going to find a more competitive guy out there. Joey's going to be leaving Aaron Rodgers, yea our nemesis for a rookie quarterback who obviously has great potential in justin field. It's such a different contrast here as an offensive minded coach like Luke. How do you analyze that as a head coach yourself. Yeah, I mean Justin was committed to

be a Penn State for almost a year. Uh, you know, and I think my anticipated departure at Penn State, you know, led to his peak commitment eventually to Georgia then go to Ohio State. But Justin in his family and I've texted with Justin, is that you know, since Luke got hired just great people. Um, you know, Justin incredibly talented to beat you with his brain, his arms, and his legs.

And at the end of the day, whether it's college or NFL football, it's a personnel driven game and Luke Luke, Luke will will do an excellent job identifying what the Bears have, what those guys can do well, and then then formulating a scheme around them. And certainly, uh, you know, Justin's the estralla stirs a drink. So it'd be easy for critics to say, well, you know, did Aaron Rodgers really need any coaching when you when you think about it, right,

given his excellence, But we know that's not true. We know that coaches coach and players play and there is learning going on here? Do you think he will draw a lot from that experience of just the daily routine of a great quarterback or a great superstar athlete, regardless of sport, that Justin could learn a lot from from Luke. Yeah. I mean most critics don't know whether the balls inflated or stuff with feathers, so I would take everything they

say with a great assault. But but yeah, I mean anytime that year, being that you're able to be around a guy like you know, Aaron Rodgers and you know, one of the all time best to do it, and you know, see his habits and how he prepares and the things he does on game day to be an incredibly high level guy, you'd be remiss to not carry over some of those experiences, you know, to your first coordinator opportunity in the NFL. And I know Luke will

do that. Like I said, incredibly smart. I've been around a lot of great coaches with different and diverse philosophies, and he'll put together a great package and I think Justin will be the you know, the primary beneficiary of that. We were at Penn State. We were his second major college offer, so we had identified him very early in

the process. We got him up to camp, got him offered, and then when he started he actually didn't play tough as an underclassman, but then when he started to get a bunch of great film, he blew up became a five star guy, you know, the lead eleven and one of the top players of not the top player in the country, but getting into Pablo and Gina and his parents and you know, great family system plays softball at Georgia. They are just you take the football part out of it.

You know, Justin Fields and his family are just top flight, high character, awesome people. And to get to know them and even though it didn't work out, and you know, I didn't have an opportunity to coach him, I've stayed in touch with them, and you know, you just always have you for just a success. Joe moorehead head coach at Akron. So this begs the question, then Tom and Jim, do you build a system around Justin or you plug

Justin into a system. Jim, you go first with the Yeah, I think you build a system around Justin is what you do. You know, you take the stuff that he did at a house almost like what you know Carolina did with Cam Newton, right, there was a lockout year and they brought in the Auburn offense to really get him to feel comfortable. When you look at Cam Newton and I think that's what you're gonna do. You're gonna

build around the strengths of Justin Field. So you know, it's you know, from the offensive line and what they want to do running, how they're gonna be mobile with him and take advantage of his legs, throwing on the run, all those type of things. So they're gonna build a system that suits his skill sets and what you know, accentuates his positives and minimizes any struggles that he has

in other areas of his game. Oh you look at what the Buffalo Bills has done the last couple of years building a system around Josh Allen and his trades. I think that's kind of the you know, the template of success that you kind of want to formulate a plan like that. But when you talk about Luke In being with Aaron Rodgers, I would as a coach, I would try to absorb everything I possibly could in Aaron's preparation and then how does that transfer to Justin And

you're not gonna say, hey, be like him, be like him. Hey, this is the way that we saw this play. This is the way that we broke down this type of formation. This is the opportunity that we presented to our quarterback in all those types of things that he was being able to learn from Aaron and may have been a player teaching a coach more than a coach was teaching a player. That's Tim Fair, Jim Miller, Jeff Jonny AAC.

We'll look at today's Senior Bowl activities with Big Jim after this break on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Final segment here on Bears on Access with Tom Fair, Jeff Jonnyak and Jim Miller from Serious X NFL Radio is moving to change. He's down to Mobile, Alabama at the RECs Senior Bowl. What you're learning specifically a quarterback, because keep hearing that Malik Willis is showing everybody he's got a rocket arm. The kid out of Atlanta, Georgia

can also move. But he's coming from a school lag Liberty. So how he how's he panting out with the other top talent from around the country. Yeah, he really had a good day today. He separated himself for the American squad. He could spin it. You know, I thought all the other quarterbacks somewhat struggled throwing in the rain today. From Kenny Pickett, I do like Desmond Ritter. I think he

is really impressed. From Cincinnati as well. He was spinning the ball really well also, And they've got Carson Strong from Nevada who's got a real strong arm. But Ritter from Cincinnati. And Malik willis one's he's a really good athlete. Made a couple of nice scrambles today, can throw on the run. But I thought he had a tremendous day

this afternoon. And Western Kentucky's Bailey Zappi, you know, he he basically transferred up to Western Kentucky, brought all his receivers with him, put up a lot of yardage in production. But I thought Malik really stole the show today. Jim, is there any uh, you know, small school guys out there. They're gonna turn heads of some scouts and some developers

out there. You think of the offensive guard that ended up starting for the Denver Broncos from the small school in Wisconsin year Yeah, yeah, Quinn Liners, is there any of those guys out there that you know, when you think about the Bears and where they're positioned into draft at you know you can get a starter and every one of those draft choices position. Is there a guy right now that's catching your eye? I like the cornerback from Fayetteville State, all right, he's six foot two and

a half one hundred ninety three pounds, Joshua Williams. So I think he clocked the fastest yesterday. You know they do the next gen stats. I think he was at twenty one and a half miles an hour. But this is a very long corner who can put some weight on it and he can still fly. So Fayetteville State has got my vote right now. He really is looked good. And now the defensive side of the ball, Florida State's edge Jermaine Johnson. He has been singled at, Jim What

have you heard about his play so far? Yeah? I think for him, I think there's a couple of big guys that have played pretty well, but him, he's got the speed. From from that standpoint, the defensive end for Florida State. If he's physical, fast and be the power I think is what I wrote next to him, where he's really exceller or really excelled down here in Mobile so far, and Tom, I gotta get you the clip. I saw Penn State's Jesse Luke Ketta. Because we talk

about leverage all the time, all right. So he was up against at right tackle the six eight, three hundred and eighty seven pounder from Minnesota, Daniel Fila. And who do you think won that battle? It was something the kid from Pennce Jim did you see that play? I saw it and he bowl rushed him and pushed him back. He fell flat on his flat on his fanny. When you look at Daniel from Minnesota, that dude is a big dude, really great dude. But leverage to leverage, yeah,

I mean leverage ahead. Tom will love it because the best guy down here, in my opinion, on the old line is the kid from Boston College. That Zion Johnson is an absolute beast man, three hundred and fourteen pounds. That dude just doesn't move. He anchors Tom. He is impressive, very impression. That's what you gotta have. You have to have an anchor when you talk about the side of the Minnesota guy. If you're kind of loose on your feet and you take all that big size and just

get it pushed backwards. No, but I listen. I like the development possibilities of the Minnesota guy. You said six eight and a half three hundred and eighty pounds, huge, huge man. And you'd also like the fact that BC's Zion Johnson stayed after in the rain because he was getting snapped at center and he was practicing in the rain his snaps at center. So that's a guy who wants it badly. That's going to wrap us up, big Jim, have a great call of the game on Saturday, and

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