
Hey, Rachel.

Hey, Erik. Hey, friends. We're two design leaders who spent way too much time at AIGA Leadership Retreats.

Remember those human pyramids?

Oh my god. Don't remind me. But you know what? Those retreats shaped who we are as designers and leaders today.

And that's exactly why we're launching Cheers and Tiers Design Leadership Tales Retold.

Starting this spring, we're bringing you stories from the most influential voices in design leadership, the people who helped build AIGA chapters across the country and shape the design industry as we know it.

You'll hear from incredible guests like Ashleigh Axios, who went from AIGA chapter leader to the Obama White House.
Part like, I thank AIGA for even helping me get the connections that led to me working at the White House was just like a happy hour event, but that's how I even knew that that was an opportunity.

Like Mike Joosse who helped establish AIGA's chapter development program.
Doing a lot of organizing and a lot of kind of facilitating for chapter volunteers and board members on a daily basis. And so it was just a thrill and a joy. Two out of those three years were like the best two years in my life.

And Josh Silverman, who shares his journey from running a design firm to transforming design communities across a whole region.
Bringing the Bone Show out of Boston to the rest of New England influenced, let's say, the formation of one, two, three, four, five other chapters, including the Rhode Island chapter and ultimately became president of.

Plus Amanda Hovest sharing how she helped revive LA's design scene.
I also just emulated the people who I thought did a great job, which was, I mean, the people that were ahead of me. And they all did it by doing too. It was never like, I'm the leader. I'm the president here before. It was like, I'm gonna get down here and do this with you because we're a team, and we're all digging this.

Each episode blends leadership insights with real stories about building design communities complete with both the cheers

And occasional pyramid tears, hence the name.

Cheers and Tiers launches March 1 wherever you get your podcasts.

You know, we should probably mention that no designers were harmed in the making of those human pyramids.

Well, except for that one time in Denver.

Let's just say it involved 10 designers, a television, and a very surprised hotel manager.

And that's why AIGA Leadership Retreats now have liability waivers.

Cheers and tears. Design Leadership Tales Retold. Subscribe now to hear from the leaders who shape design community as we know it today.

And maybe learn what really happened in Denver.

If we're legally allowed to tell it.

Even if not, we will.