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Welcome to Cheeky Run Club, the social running podcast and community for your everyday amateur runner. hello, Anna,

Mrs.

and hello, listeners. This week, we're talking about

about running for purpose. From the launch of Cheeky, we have been super passionate about exploring why people run. And you're about to hear from someone who has a truly compelling reason. She's one of our good friends who you would have heard us talk about many a times. And she's also an ambassador for Movember.

we are also going to check in and hold ourselves accountable to the goals we set last week around sleep and rehab. And we're going to chat to you a little bit about merch

We're then going to finish it off by bringing back the weekly weapon segment.

I'm

really excited by this and I feel like this is cool because it's a joint one.

is a joint one. Yeah, we are jointly bringing this weekly weapon segment to you.

first of all, let's kick it off. How with our best,

first of

it

off as always with our best. With our best and

I would say

tired

Yeah, so we decided we'd take a few deep grounding breaths, but I don't think it's made any

It clearly hasn't made any difference. I still can't speak. Anyway, we are going to kick it off with our notable runs slash running adjacent activities this week. Phoebes, give me, give me a worst. I want to end on a high.

hear them high. Sounds good. Okay. My worst running related experience this week was actually Pilates related. I've been been using ClassPass, which for those who haven't used it, ClassPass kind of, it avoids you having to sign up to one specific studio. You can kind of access most studios through it. And it sort of makes it a bit cheaper. I don't actually know how

cheaper. although I never actually know, because you pay in credits.

Yeah, it has so many different ones. And I think it makes it cheaper, although I never actually know, because you pay in credits. It's very mysterious whether it's actually cheaper. Maybe I'm paying more, I don't know. Anyway, the, Pilates place. Oh, actually, I don't know if I should, I should shame them because it was just, um,

Maybe I'll say it. It

maybe I'll say it. It wasn't corpus. We love

is Republic. Don't

yeah. Okay. fine. Pilates Republic. Have you been there before? No, I have not.

No matter

yeah, I think I've gotten used to corpus and they're just no matter what teacher you go to, It's a really good quality, high standard class. Whereas this class was just quite chaotic. For one, it was only like, I reckon a quarter full, which is a weird vibe. I went in in the morning and they blacked out the room and there's just like, fluorescent lights kind of, Oh no, not fluorescent. What's it like neon lights on the wall.

like, checking out. No. This is

No, it is a bit of a hit vibe. Yeah, it is a hit vibe. And,

just

I was like, Oh, Like good on you for trying to do a new like try out a new place, but I won't be trying again I'll be reverting back to core plus

nice.

Um, tell me about your worst running related experience

I reckon you can probably guess. my worst running experience ended in tears on Tuesday morning. Um, I'm like almost crying thinking about it more just because it's kind of funny. Now it wasn't at the time, but I went for a run Tuesday morning with the group. It was Melbourne cup day. So it was a public holiday. We did track Tuesday, which. Started a little bit later. It was the most perfect day, like perfect temperature. The vibes were high. Everyone was just out running.

So it was way

Yeah, yeah, but like, yeah, it was, it was really, really sore. So I just thought I'll stop so it doesn't get worse. And then I had a long 2k walk or at least 2k is probably home. Um, and then, cause I thought, Oh, I have a lot of time before you all finish track and get coffee. So. I'll just walk home first. And I got home and I saw Dave and I, I don't, I just started crying.

Yeah,

Innocent.

know when, yeah, completely, whereas normally I'd probably like give it back to her. But I just absolutely grumbled. And then, you know when you start crying and then, you're just a train wreck. And then I just almost, yeah, anytime, like someone would say something else, which wasn't even relevant to me. Or being like, my coffee's too hot. And I'd just start crying again. Anyway.

when you're in that, you're so fragile and you're in that

Yeah, it's crazy. I just kept looking at Ted to be

Yeah, it was nice

what

Ted there. Bit of a therapy dog. So why, what do you, I mean, obviously it's upsetting. But what do you think it was that was really like, tipped you over in that moment? Yeah, I

I was trying to think of that later in the day because I'm not actually much of a crier and

instance, that's

that one instance is not really a reason. I think it was maybe just the accumulation of. Constantly just being a bit disappointed and saddened by things. And then also I, I feel as if recently I have gone into each run sort of half expecting to not be able to finish it. Whereas this time I kind of had my guard down a

And then

then I think as well, it was one of those mornings and I feel as if the Tuesday public holidays that land on a Tuesday. Uh, some of the best runs of the year because it's way more relaxed. Um,

nice. yeah. Yeah. And

think I maybe just hadn't really acknowledged that prior to going for a run.

yeah, it exactly. And think as well,

Yeah, yeah. And I, yeah, exactly. And I think as well, I just feel like I'm a bit lost. I feel like I just keep going in a loop and I don't really know what to do or what I'm doing wrong. You know, with other stuff, you sort of think that you're progressing, even if it's like very, very slowly, but I just kind of feel like I go one step forward, then five steps back and I never, it's just so

can't tell why like you so yeah, do you have any idea why it was was like was there anything you did on Monday or anything?

Um, the only thing I can think of was I drove back from Port Ferry,

Yeah Yeah

Monday morning because we spent the weekend down there visiting my parents. But, even still, like, we drove down after work on Friday night, and then Saturday and Sunday it

was

So, I honestly don't

Weird. Oh, that is so frustrating anyway,

so if, yeah, if you were on Swan Street at what, 9am on Tuesday morning and saw a girl in tears, that was probably me.

be

know what? There's actually nothing, I never cry and Dave sometimes says to me, just let it out. And I just never, I can't, but I did on Tuesday morning and I, there's something quite nice about it. Afterwards, I thought, sort of thought, Oh, I'm so lucky to be, you know, have so many friends that are like, are you okay, blah, blah, blah. It was, yeah,

there is really therapeutic about it.

Yeah. Just having a big old cry. What was your best run or

month. What was your best

can do that. No, no, no.

no.

running experience? You're so morning! Yeah, do you

never feel bad about

you'll never feel bad? a few months ago and how hard running felt and it just, it feels like a different activity now. Like I just feel like I'm enjoying every run so much more. but especially, that's why my worst things have never been runs recently. Like I've been going back to my Strava and I'm like, I loved

Every run. Yeah.

Um, but

nothing like a setback to really make you appreciate

that is, that is very true. so best run I would say we're both my sessions this week. So Tuesday both times again, just like a group of friends and I'm loving feeling like I can push myself without it being like the hardest thing in the world that I'm then exhausted from afterwards. Like there is such a nice, it's such a nice feeling, like challenging myself, push myself, but then be able to bounce back from

then to

I'm giving myself the tools to be able to do that. Like the.

I'm giving myself the

Yeah. Yes. I've been really enjoying the sessions Tell me about your best running related experience this week.

was this morning, I think as well, or maybe Wednesday morning. So I went to a, um, Jim. I was thinking, what are they, what are they called? Those big

ones are called? I'm

I'm not really sure. So a couple of us went to this place called Hurt Locker and they have these high intensity kind of weight classes. I don't even know what you call them. Hybrid. I think that's the, I think that's the, I think that's the term that's

was gonna come

flying around at the moment. It's a bit of a fad term.

is officially as officially rebranded as a hybrid athlete

I am so not. Anyway, it is, it's genuinely amazing going to these places because they do these circuits and these men and women are so strong. It is, Really inspiring. It is just a completely different kind of fitness anyway. So when on Wednesday with a couple of friends and then again this morning, and I think I really enjoyed it because I got my heart rate up and felt like I was pushing myself, which I just didn't.

to kind of, be

but aside from that since July, and it just feels so nice to kind of push yourself. Yeah. Cause I do in the pool a little bit, but I just can't, I can never really get my heart rate up. So this was really nice. Also, whoever invented, there's this thing called the assault bike. People are probably listening being, thinking, well,

don't

you know that already? It is so

that already. It is so hard. So,

it's, you're on an ergo bike, but then you're pushing with your arms as well. Um, back and forward.

as well. Yes,

yes, yeah, exactly. But the resistance is much harder. And you know, with a lot of. Things like the elliptical, even if you're going really hard, you get to a point, I feel, and it gets a bit easier. Whereas this, it's almost the harder you push, the harder

push It

Yeah, it's really hard. Anyway,

Well, it's, I think it's so cool that in this period where you're injured and you can't run as much, you're able, you're like exploring different exercises and different ways to move your

Yeah, exactly.

we're going to chat to you a little bit about merch because our new merch is pretty much ready to launch. Summer season, no cheeky. Summer

Season 24 25. Thanks to everyone who helped us on the Instagram vote for your preferential colors, that was very much appreciated. But yes, hopefully, the, the week that this is coming out, is also hopefully the same week that the shop is launching. So, keep your eyes peeled on Instagram.

Yeah, keep your eyes peeled because this time we're doing it a little bit differently. And, rather than, um, ordering, um, Based on what rather than you guys all putting in your order and then us ordering it from The suppliers and then eventually getting that a few weeks later and then packing and sending to you We've actually pre ordered so there is only a limited number Um, whatever's up there in terms of sizes is what's there. So it'll be a bit of a first in best dressed situation

also exciting because it means that you won't have to actually wait for three to four weeks before getting it. We will ship it out to you as,

Straight away

I was going to say as soon as your order comes in. But hopefully the next couple of business days,

Yeah, next couple of business days, I

yeah,

Might take us two to, what do they say? Like two to four

two to four business

just for packing.

Yeah.

whatever the businesses say online.

So today we are chatting to a very, very special guest, Jenna Fulton. If anyone has seen a photo or video of Anna and I, anything for Cheeky, this gal is probably the one behind the lens. if Cheeky was a triangle, she would be the third side, and we feel very honoured to have her here on the pod. About time.

time. This is our

was our first ever weekly weapon?

Yeah, and probably first listener.

no, she was. We sent her the draft.

yeah, yeah. She was like, try again.

Yes.

aside from her full time role at Cheeky. Kind of joking. Um, Jenna is a Movember ambassador and has raised over 30, 000 for the cause. We talked to Jen about what made her want to become so heavily involved with Movember and what running adds to her life. This chat was really, really special. So we hope you all enjoyed it. you can find her on social media at Jenna Fulton. we'll also pop her link to her Mo Space in the show notes. And also just a quick content warning before we get into it.

Hello Jenna, welcome to the show. very

very much for having me. Long time supporter,

long time

with some

the show. First time caller.

to with us about

All right. So let's wind the clock back little bit. Tell us how you got into running.

I went into running from an early age, school, cross country, just really enjoyed it.

Which where

just through it

baby

actually

I met Phoebe.

were little tigers. When we'd run around together. Yes, um, and so did it. Yeah.

It through there

And then how did you fall in love with and when did you, I reckon, you fell in

triathlon

look at my running journey parts and it

when I did altogether

up running competitively and after my two year hiatus of running altogether once I quit. So I think I just loved running from an early and then

it like something

Later on in life to not like it. age

was that?

I just, it became something where it took away from of it. Where it was just always grinding,

you're doing it. quite

the joy

both of us

cute. That's where

Um, and then

Yes, it has.

just

fell out of love with it. Um

just did it for

yeah, I didn't run for a little while. And then, once I started my first full time job, there was a really big running culture and I

it

go. like,

the itch

I think, But I would

have to

until a halftime break. Um,

time break.

literally and then just from that I was like, oh, okay,

today

I wanna get

um

I kind fell in love when you that improvement again.

Tell us about, how you get involved Movember and what's the reason behind YUMO?

so it kind of is a long journey, a bit of a roller coaster.

think

Um, so back in 2013, I lost my

that surrounds men's

I didn't about it for a really and I was a massive part

And it

surrounds men's mental health. And yeah, I just put it the side and that was it. And then it wasn't till that, have been 2018,

dip little bit

first full time job. Movember campaign and my friend Ben, he was like, get involved, come on. And I opened up a little bit more, him and in general about I wanted to do it. And then it kind of just built and on that. And throughout the years had fuel to the fire. I've had a couple of close lose their dad suicide. And 2021, I lost my psychologist suicide, which was something that it added another Brick to the wall where it like, like you can be a

was big

in field.

why

was Yeah, So, that was, yeah, a really big reason of why I got

involved. why. that was and then did

Why, I mean you said initially you didn't about it, like talk us through why that was and then what did that change look like to go from not being talk about your to this like real for action and to make

I think it was just so stigmatized and I know it's

desire

but it was so different back then, like of how it looks now. And me, I was almost guilty it was Why this happen? Would be

of

oh no,

just like, oh

and so, I don't know what clicked, but something inside me was like, oh, shouldn't be like this. And, yeah, that's how it, then it talk about this and it will normalise other people that are

Yeah

And when did you realize running tool to

year it said I wasn't

Yeah, I think, for me that first year I did it. I, like I said, I wasn't much I can go for runs with people really running

one bit more comfortable. I don't know what it directly at

someone's eyes.

personal and the lack of eye

contact.

And I would chat a bit more about like life or personal things and that way I was, I 60k the first time I did

that were like that I wasn't necessarily

it just built some relationships because people that were colleagues or friends that I wasn't necessarily

it was

um, not that we're having deep chats every time we ran but it was a way to be getting to know someone and That's how it was person and they've been forced talk me half an hour. Yeah, I think as

well, you know, when you're running, you're

that

have this sense of camaraderie You're in

that

and from

personal

to break down barriers that not a lot of, other social don't

do.

I want to ask you some more questions about, like how raised Movember past. But I thought before we did, do you want to actually explain what Movember is?

Yeah, so Movember is a leading, men's

years

And it here in Melbourne.

a

guys 21 ago now that were in bar trying to make cool again, and it was a point of conversation for them. years pretty

just it's a

Wow! Yeah,

Um, and yeah, it just got bigger and bigger

and now put

um,

help

dollars. Um, and they, yeah, they put, they fund all these programs that

fortunate

Men's health, not only mental health, prostate cancer and other

like

You've raised an astonishing over 30, 000 for Movember. Um, how have you done that Considering you can't

mustache I try.

evolved

face raiser.

Um, yeah, so like I said, started with 60ks. really tough. But from there I like, Oh, I'm going to run more a bigger

So that was like, you set a goal of I'm going to run 60Ks for the month of November?

Yep, so 60 was the number because, um, globally, every 60 minutes,

was

that men die, um, from suicide. So, on average.

that

was the number that was encouraged. Like, you're going to choose a number, 60s. So that obviously home if

number

And, so the next year I I'm going to 120 doubled it. And then the next year I was I'm going to do 200k's. And we had a really good and like

48 So 78Ks in

Four miles every four 48 hours. Um, 78 in two days. And we just camped out, stadium the Gold Coast.

Oh, what was that

oh, you really just go through the emotions with people, like why we do it. And you have chats and you get vulnerable. And it kind of the first time I opened up to my colleagues of why wanted do it, um,

had

And. That was very emotional. And so the next year,

did

I had been a little bit injured and

over

I did that, and I rode

got to here it's now You did sense plus 500Ks on the challenge had someone

heck I can see how it's built now. It all

we did a little 24 hour challenge in that where we had someone running around the for 24 hours, as well, and goals within hours. And, from there it got bigger and then last year, it was, the 10th

kept me company for a

up

at moment

both of kept me company for a lot of, whether

did. I'm getting reminders on my Strava at the moment

I.

and like grateful runs with Jenna. Crazy.

I was, I was like, wow. So big. One of

one of the I love about what you did last year As our little running community, I feel as if brought together After each run you would say, okay, what are you grateful for today? And what are you grateful for after that run? And it really made you a step back, and appreciate what we were doing and what we

But feel like

And obviously

absolutely

way but I feel like

it it at the like Yeah. Yeah

remember those runs and I feel like we started doing them at start of the month, like

would our coffee. into the

there the And it be like, three cases into the run. I'd be like, someone tell me what they're grateful for because I need distraction.

of that um, you it

talk us through, what was the aftermath of Um, Matt, you hit it, you, you exceeded

Yeah, a couple of days before the month end, I So I was like, okay,

So I

up 410 or

like

just some sprinkles on the top. But the aftermath, yep. Initially I was like, I'm going to have a couple of weeks off running, great idea, my body felt really good other than the fact I had probably tone hours Kept running and then towards the end of December was got a bit a quad niggle, I'm not sure what's going on just try to roll it out,

I

to like the start of in tried

roll my hamstring and

Shot through the front so then I got a scan and had reaction in femur.

So then fast forward to planning for year. Um, how, how have you balanced trying to set a goal and challenge, but also balancing that with looking after that's

Yeah,

and I think like it's been a tough me from someone who like grown to love running so much again, and you both have

weeks

me at some low points this year and, um,

I I

pulled a muscle a few weeks ago and, it's just up and down. And then for me thinking of a challenge, I'll essentially just like months out, be

of challenges.

if something sticks in my brain and I can't.

few

of it, then that's when I'm like, okay, I've got to

That's the challenge.

ride 24 hours on like, a

yeah, I think

a months epiphany for statuary And then

that like fun.

time You know what? I just had this want to sit on a

Watt bike 24

I'm just not going away so I'm going to

And to me all the time.

So, the plan.

It's, so you took us through the to 24 hours.

to do it

a stationary bike, and where will you do

I will be doing it up there athletics on the 15th

I didn't you'll you'll when

hours. So

to

didn't know that. So you'll you'll pause you go

you're pausing

I pause

Joking

put a

when you wanted to do a two

do number two.

should have done a content

hours so that's this

a vlog.

Anyway, back to it. what what

said

said that, like,

was like, I was

like, wait, so yes, this

wait, so yes. So,

Yeah

thought about, what are you going to think of when starts get hard? what

I will have some company throughout, which is epic.

just falling on the

flying down from the Gold Coast, to feed me and look after me and

I'm not

I'm not

asleep like

Um, so Kayo, that's really make sure don't know, I'm really bad

with

don't listen music that much. I'm a bit of a weird unit when it comes to that.

When things get hard, do you think of your dad

think that

people do you think that will come into

on

Friday? Or are you just sort of like,

of like

and just solely just the 24

call it,

and then that not gonna

that clean his arms

lose

are so solid, just like

it's a

My friends that have lost people, and at same time it's I want to raise awareness and get really uncomfortable so the men in my life no longer to. And whether raising a few bucks whether it's, knowing that someone might feel comfortable talking about their feelings, because of doing this challenge and trying to normalise that it's okay to speak about it, that's everything that pushes me through and I think I can just.

us a you

going to this

On

note can you tell us a bit about the ambassador work that you do with Movember

So, um, pretty cool. I only moved

a a few ago

Yeah.

Yeah, wow.

Yeah. year and a few months. And I'd always, um, obviously been doing Movember on the Gold Coast the last few years.

didn't

up Jake from Movember, someone who I always emailed and like didn't, never met properly,

got up with him And,

just you know, when you're like trying to play it cool.

community of ambassadors

I guess.

Um, it's really cool, like honestly a really good ambassadors Um, we get to go out to organisations and speak about and share our journey and why we mow and kind of like a real

so what

more awareness, which is so cool.

I mean, it's amazing

you do, but I think hearing this and reflecting on what you've experienced and then what you're doing I just think it's amazing and so inspiring and you're so brave Yeah,

Yes along to my most

Speaking of, how can people get involved and support?

They head along to my MO space,

it in the show notes. Yes.

Yeah, yeah. Or it's Jenna Fulton. Um, but

most

one way or just keeping an eye on my journey throughout. I'll be someone to update the hours on my most face. Yeah. I'll be updating on my social media obviously, so I think that's a big way for me that people can support.

Can people come and join you and or run with

Yeah So a big part

really to get community involved. So it wasn't staring at whilst I ride a bike. But during opening hours of There Athletics, is in the city in Melbourne,

have

Have another and set up people for have a yarn.

Yeah. Tell us about why you run now and what does running give to you?

Um, even attending

gave me a

of

group run when she wasn't even attending.

as well Really You her I've done

a couple done that with our friend Claudia Really? You sent her out there? Yeah, I met her work said, Yeah, as well friends being like, This girl's coming.

nice.

Look

after her.

was a very, aggressive. I was And

it is a that I

a

to go.

don't let them down.

Um, but yeah, it really is connection that I love. And for me, it's like my own mental health. Don't know what it does, but going run in the morning just and having coffee with the girls, it just really starts day well. But yeah, when I able

if there that's that's um

Yeah.

So lastly, if there one thing, a listener can take away from this chat, what would you want it to be?

I

for me, it's always been no one's going to think less you for seeking help I

And

even I've started doing this, I've had male And when I say seeking help, it doesn't to be, you have to go to a call lifeline straight away or anything like that. just letting someone know that you're not okay, when that can do wonders. And it just knows it's mean someone's there And,

And if not

yeah, there's such a thing about, speak up, like, people for you

they do,

you're not

with

like oh if I

you go

Jenna, thank you so much for sharing with us and with our listeners. I mean, Anna said it before, but the way you go about all of this is genuinely so Like I think so many people have things that are important them in but you have made point to not you actually are taking and doing so know so many people think So a

very proud

you. action listeners get

behind you

you're amazing for we can't wait Friday. Have Um

Okay. Quick fire before we get into our weekly weapon. Um, we, we decided last week to continue our challenges. So Anna's challenge was

every single day. Some form of Which I have done every day, apart from today.

today

ah Maybe still to come

Maybe still to come, although we are going straight to a birthday dinner. No, you know what? I will actually do it today, tonight, whenever I get home just for 10 minutes, and I'll send you a photo because the photos have been lacking

The photos have been liking and it's been noted and my challenge was

six hours and 45 minutes minimum.

Minimum. Okay,

it's misrepresent so

misrepresented. It's misrepresenting

it's misrepresenting me. So it says, it says 6 hours and 20 minutes. However, what I realized is that started on Monday, not on the weekend, which I slept really hard on the weekend.

I

I

energy

put a lot of effort into my sleep over the weekend. And so, so what happened last week when we recorded it was 6 hours and 30 minutes, but then I got it up to 6 hours 45 minutes by the end of the week. So this week, I'm only on 6 hours 20,

But we recorded on Thursday. And it's now Friday.

Yeah, but So

the average between 6. still isn't 6.

this weekend, I'm gonna get it up, is what I'm saying

But if it's week to week,

Like starting Monday

No,

no.

no No, no, no, no, no, no, no Starting

you why. Because if you think, think this time last

I'll tell you why. it might be okay because if we think, think this time last week, I was on a similar score to now or six 20 something

6.

and then I got it up to 6 45. So if I'm similar now, see what you mean. I reckon I'm pretty close. Are

this, I

I mean, I let's

satisfied with

both trust each other. Yeah, it'll be a regular accountability. Okay, I love it. Now, let's talk about, I'm so excited to talk about our cheeky team member of the week. Anna, would you like

Cheeky team member of the week. Cheeky weekly, right?

cheeky weekly

weapon. Our cheeky, our cheeky weekly weapon. And would you

Anna, would you like to introduce them? I

would. So, a little bit of background for context about our weekly weapon. We were both suggested to listen to a podcast, a conversations podcast, which we'll actually put in the show notes

in the show notes as well.

Yeah. Our Spanish correspondent, Eleanor, recommended this podcast to us. So it is about Dr. Tracy Westerman, who is an indigenous woman who grew up in the Pilbara. she actually grew up in a station town called Useless Loop. I looked this up and it's legitimate, the town is called Useless Loop.

first one to go to uni. Yeah. She studied, it's, it's such an amazing story, like very worth listening, but the, the TLDR, she goes on to study psychology, and What's the TLDR? Uh, uh. It means,

not too busy.

true.

What does the TLDR

means too long, too long, didn't read. So it's what you add to something when it's, it's too long. And yeah. So the summary

Oh, right.

just here's the, the, the spark notes

Yeah.

version. Nice.

Phoebe's version.

yeah, she goes on to study psychology and clinical psychology and she. Obviously is taught like traditional psychology, but what she does, which no one else has been able to do before is she basically is able to like go into indigenous communities and translate it into like a kind of version of psychology that takes into account their culture and their

and inspiring

practices. Hearing her talk through it is so interesting and inspiring and you're just struck by how important the work that she's doing is. Yeah, I'm

she was sort of thrown into it even from when she was 22. That was the first time

does social work, it's amazing. And I guess to get back to running the, we might even try and pop like the final 30 seconds or the 30 seconds of the recording into the podcast because she basically at the end talks about how she has used running. as a self soothing mechanism, because she takes on the most insane emotional burden from the work she does, which is truly incredible. She basically talks about how she has used running and how running saved her life. she, says. Yeah.

how running saved my life.

literally got goosebumps listening to her talk

that. Oh, cause I feel like it's one of those things that we speak about all the time, and speak to sort of how saying, like, running adds so much to your life. But I just feel like she, it was so well articulated. And it was, it's obviously just been such a constant. In her life over all of the years. Like she would have, she's been through trauma herself. She's dealing with a lot of other trauma.

I think she's 55 people on the

Which is crazy. so I reckon let's get her on the pod, but also let's add a snippet here. And

And cue snippet.

Um, all right. That is it for today's episode. Thank you, Phoebe.

Thank you, Anna. And thank you, listeners.

And most importantly, and thank you, Jenna.

And thank you, Tracy.

And thank you. Honestly. Thank you, Tracy. And thank you. My tear ducts on Tuesday.

Oh yeah, thank you for expressing your emotions.

So beautifully.

Ha ha ha ha.

Proud of you.

you.

What is happening?

No. All right, let's wrap this up. Um, as you as always, please like, subscribe, follow at wherever you get your podcasts. Please follow us on Instagram

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Watch out for Anna at the next HiROCKS competition.

next Hyrox

We'll let everyone know. This hybrid athlete is going to be out there leaving it all out there on the HiROCKS website. Whatever

whatever you call it.

say.