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Day 6 Athletics Recap (Tuesday 6th Aug)

Aug 06, 202424 minSeason 4Ep. 9
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Helloooo armchair experts! Day 6 was cooking with HEAT. 

  • We kick off the recording hot off the shock men's 1500m final result and unpack that, including getting slightly sidetracked
  • We unpack the women's 1500m heats including the incredible performances from our 3 x Aussie queens

We finish by discussing upcoming events and making some predictions for the upcoming men's 5000m, 800m and women's pole vault!

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Music produced by Hugh Raper. Logo design by Michael Cotellessa. Podcast edited by Kiara Martin.

Transcript

Anna

to the Cheeky Armchair Expert Daily Recap for Tuesday the 6th of August. We are going to talk through the key events from last night, including the Men's 1500m Finals and then the Women's 1500m Heats, and then preview what's to come for the events kicking off on Wednesday. How are you Going Phoebe?

Phoebe

thanks Anna, Brad and Early here in Australia. How are you?

Anna

know, you are actually looking very bubbly and bright

Phoebe

Am

Anna

5 11 a. m.

Phoebe

I'm, I'm still pumping full of adrenaline after that men's 1500m final.

Anna

Oh my gosh, that was insane. Should we, should we kick off with that?

Phoebe

Yeah, I reckon. I'm so keen to debrief it with you.

Anna

So keen. So the men's 1500 final finished, what, approximately 10 minutes ago. and as, like, if people aren't aware, there is huge rivalry in the men's 1500 between The Norwegian Jakob Ingebrigtsen and the great British athlete Josh Kerr, have a Google of the, conflict. They've both been pretty open, about their, disdain for each other and how they just think that the other per they're better than the other person. The gun went.

Phoebe

Oh wait, but before the gun went, I have a question. What did you genuinely think was going to happen?

Anna

Um, I thought Inga Britson was going to win easily.

Phoebe

Really?

Anna

Yeah. What did you think? And I thought Josh would come second. Josh

Phoebe

Ethan, did you come second? I was watching the line up at the start, and I thought Inga Britton looked so nervous. I thought he

Anna

Oh, really?

Phoebe

Yeah, and I was like, Oh, I don't think he's got this. Cause Josh Kyle looks like. So focused in the zone, like loving life. And I was like, okay, Josh, it looks like he's in a way

Anna

He's, Yeah. like head's face. Yep.

Phoebe

But I didn't predict what actually happened. So

Anna

actually

Phoebe

through that. Yeah. Talk us through what, how did the race go?

Anna

so the first lap, it was, it was Interesting. because I wasn't sure. if it would just be very much like tactical cat and mouse, like, or if they would actually go for it, but they like set a pretty good pace right from the start. which I quite, I like that because then I feel like it means, I like fast timed races in the sense that it means that I feel like the best person wins rather than just being like the most strategic, I guess.

They were like all, they were pretty much all bunched up like in a, in a single file, but in like the whole pack was together for the better part of like all majority of the race, really. but like Ingebrigtsen at the, at the front. As, but which is to be expected.

Phoebe

yeah, and why, why is that to be expected? Why does he like to go out and push the pace?

Anna

I think because he's racing style. I mean, he's been so dominant for a long time, uh, particularly in, like he's, I think he's the fastest on paper.

Phoebe

Yeah, yeah,

Anna

yeah. And so I think he's sort of a race strategy, which is fair enough is just to go as hard as possible because he believes that he's actually just Yeah. naturally faster than everyone else. So it's like he'll make them push until they can't hold on anymore. and were you surprised to see like Josh not going in front, Josh Kerr not going in front at all?

Phoebe

Um, nah. Yeah, no, I thought Kerr would come around with, would attempt to come around with a few hundred metres to go if he was still in the picture. It would take two hundred metres to go because he's, he's obviously, he's got an incredible kick and apparently has been like, all he's been doing is working on his English.

Kick and it's whole game plan was just like, keep up with Ingebrigtsen for as long as possible and kick past him and so yeah, let's talk about like those final few hundred meters because basically even though Ingebrigtsen was pushing the pace a lot, he still had kind of four people with

Anna

Mm. Right on him. Yeah.

Phoebe

Yeah, and, and

Anna

There was actually with 300 meters to go. or 350 meters to go,, Dave actually made the comment that it was, Ingebrigtsen, Kerr, Chariot, the Kenyan, and then it was USA456.

Phoebe

Yeah, they did so

Anna

Which is insane. Yeah. and then Inga Britson actually put a little bit of space into them with like 200. and then Josh Coyher bridged that gap and then, so coming around with 120, 100 meters to go, Josh Coyher had come on the outside of Inga Britson, but I'll say, I say they were like still pretty even.

Phoebe

Yeah, yeah. And, you know when I knew that Ingrid's wasn't gonna win? He was like looking up at the camera

Anna

At the screen, yeah, I saw that.

Phoebe

on the screen, yeah,

Anna

can't be doing that.

Phoebe

yeah, he's, he's not in the zone. He's not, he's obviously not feeling good, because he keeps checking on where they are.

Anna

Yeah. I get people that do that In semi finals and stuff, but surely, look, it's a hundred metres to go. You're not looking anywhere but the finish line.

Phoebe

well it just shows how much he was hurting, because he was like, Have I held them off? Where are they? And he hadn't, and so it was this, so basically, It's, Ingebrigtsen coming into the straight, and Kerr is coming around him on the outside, and neither of them seem to really notice.

It's Cole Hawker, the American runner, sneaking up on the inside, and then all of a sudden like the three of them are neck and neck, but it's Cole and Kerr who are able to push past, and then it was Cole who actually took out the gold medal, and the wildest thing is that Yara Neguse, who's another American runner, he, he

Anna

Crowd favourite. I like him. He seems really nice.

Phoebe

Yeah, he seems really

Anna

just very smiley. Just seems quite genuine.

Phoebe

Yep, yep, and he came around and he actually took Ingebrigtsen pretty much on the line to get bronze

Anna

Yeah,

Phoebe

is just

Anna

insane So the favorite of the race and the world record holder didn't even finish with the ME medal.

Phoebe

The medal, do you know what I really found? When he was like, out there just like, pushing the pace, pushing the pace, I weirdly was rooting for him, Ingebrigtsen, even though like, I don't,

Anna

Even though you don't really like him

Phoebe

and I, he's not the underdog, and yeah, but when he was

Anna

so

Phoebe

like, Just, I don't know, but he was putting it on the line and like pushing as hard as he could. I was like, God, you want this so badly.

Anna

bad. Yeah,

Phoebe

you have wanted this more than anyone. Like this means more to you than anyone. And I was like, maybe I want him to win. But then I was, I was really happy with what happened. So,

Anna

yeah.

Phoebe

came first, third, and fifth, Hobbes Kessler came fifth, who is a collegiate athlete.

Anna

cool I feel like there's a lot to, I mean, this could be like a whole episode. I feel like there's a lot to unpack about the U. S. athletics team. Um, particularly, and I don't know what it comes down to, I just feel like they perform so well on the biggest stage, like in the Olympics. Like, none of their PB's, their PB's, it's not as though them as a country, their PB's are like, you know, on another level to other nations.

But I wonder, like, the only thing that I can think of is, how their trials is like life and death. doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter how many world records you have, or how many Olympic gold medals you have, if you're not the top three,

Phoebe

Yeah.

Anna

you don't get in. And I almost, I wonder if the practice of that, only a couple months before, of that really, really cutthroat nature translates well over to when the games actually start?

Phoebe

That's so interesting because, yeah, it does, it indicates that it would, it would favour people who can perform under pressure.

Anna

Yeah, and it's the same. Like, their swimming team is the same. So, they, um, have always done that. So, they've had their trials, like, not long before the Olympic Games. And whoever is in their, like, top two, they go. No one else does. And I remember Australia actually changed their swimming selection policy because we used to pick the team like quite a long way out. and then never really performed quite as well as just say like America, for instance, at the actual games.

Whereas now ours is the same. it doesn't matter who you are. What world record do you have? If you're not in the top two at the Australian Olympic trials for swimming, you don't get to go. And so like, I mean, the proof's in the pudding, like this year we, we have more golds than U S in the swimming. Um, and obviously that's just like the nature of like the generation that's coming up. But Yeah. I don't know. I feel like there's, I feel like there's, there's something in that.

Phoebe

Especially when, I mean, our athletics, not that our selection is anything like that. But even our nationals, where we do a lot of our selecting, is what, months before the Olympics. Um, but

Anna

far.

Phoebe

that

Anna

It's like four months beforehand, and it's also not cutthroat. like it's not, if you're, yeah.

Phoebe

I feel like they just can't rely on Australian athletes coming back to Australia.

Anna

Mmm, yeah,

Phoebe

the Australian are know, all going to be in Europe for that season, or they live in the U. S. And it's actually a lot to ask them to Pay to come back to compete at something that's not even like guaranteed selection. So, I

Anna

Yeah.

Phoebe

so

Anna

to say that you need the Australian Olympics? Oh, I mean, I was going to say, who's to say you need the Australian Olympic Trials in Australia, but I mean, for people that are sort of like the underdogs or may just have like a stellar performance that like they might not actually travel somewhere else. Yeah.

Phoebe

Yeah. Cause, cause even like, and you know, Kenya obviously have their trials, have their trials in the U S right for some of their

Anna

Hmm, for the 10k, yeah.

Phoebe

but they have, you know, 40 people who could qualify for the 10 K and they just find them all over. Whereas we've got so many up and coming juniors who are breakout stars each year. And

Anna

yeah. but I remember even with the Kenyan, the trials, there was a lot of talk about only obviously the ones that were already sponsored could afford to fly over

Phoebe

Yeah, yeah,

Anna

and comers who are, aren't well funded, well supported, who's to say that they might not have um, like one or placed in the top three. So Yeah, Anyway. all right. Onto the, should we chat about the women's 1500 heats that took place this morning?

Phoebe

Let's do it. Um, so three Aussies in three separate heats.

Anna

Yeah. I liked that.

Phoebe

Yeah, I did too. I don't know if they do that on purpose, but I feel like that's happened with a lot of the events. The Aussies are in separate heat. So we had, Georgia Griffith in heat number one, we had Lyndon Hall in heat number two, and then we had Jess Hull in heat number three. how did heat number one go, Anna?

Anna

So Georgia Griffith was in heat one. and she looks, she looked really good. She sort of stayed out of trouble, was up the front in the top three or four. The whole race. But she always looked very comfortable. Like you would have thought, well I sort of thought just looking at it, that, they must be going well. Slow ish, just because she looked so good. but they didn't like, she finished in, she broke four minutes, which I think she's only actually done twice before.

So, that is a, Yeah, that's a really, really good sign, I think. I just, like she was never in doubt. And she finished quite comfortably. So there's three heats, the top six go through to the semi finals, and the rest go to the record charge. So she came fourth, but it was all within, you know, The first place was in, within half a second, and that was Segai, who, one, ended up winning her heat, who's one of the favorites, I guess, as well, and, who you all might, recognize her name from.

She was in the 1500 last night that sort of like famously had that, battle with Faith Kipyagon. And then the past Olympic medal winner, Laura Muir, was second in a heat. But yeah, Georgia just, she ran really well. It was a tough heat, yeah.

Phoebe

I loved how she positioned herself, I feel like. Right from the start, her intention was clear, which is, I'm making it through to the semis. Like I'm not, just because she hasn't, she's hasn't competed at the Olympics for this event before, et cetera. But she was like, nah, I deserve to be in the semis. I'm putting myself in a position to be there. And she did it.

Anna

Yeah.

Phoebe

Well done,

Anna

No. Well done, Georgia. what about Heat two?

Phoebe

2 was Linden Hall. this was a really tricky one, so straight off the bat, it was, it slowed up really quickly.

Anna

Mm.

Phoebe

like, trips and pushes. It looked really, like, drossly in there. And Linden, obviously, A, wanted to get out of there, and B, wanted to push the pace a little bit. And, so, Lyndon went to the front pretty much straight away, and led the entire race, which is like a lot of heavy lifting to do,

Anna

Mm.

Phoebe

not her, like, necessarily her natural race style, I'd say. and then, yeah, with a few hundred meters to go, she got kicked past pretty much by, I think she ended up coming back I want to say

Anna

She came Eighth, yeah. With sort of like three fifty meters to go, she just sort of got swallowed up And never really looked in it really.

Phoebe

yeah, it was surprising because she definitely, I was like very confident that she'd get through and like looking at her times, she showed up. So I think everyone was like, well what happened there? Was it from like, you know, doing too much heavy lifting and the leading? But then it's come out since, that. And, she's confirmed this, that she actually tore her calf ten days before the game started, and she decided to race anyway. which is, that's insane. Like, what do you think of that?

Anna

Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know the, like, I don't know the full details. I mean, I assume it's okay, because you genuinely just wouldn't be able to actually run if you had, like, A high grade, tear. So, assuming it's, like, safe ish for her to run, but yeah, so good.

Phoebe

tear, yeah.

Anna

Yeah. but like she didn't look, but obviously it was like such a hindrance and would have really interrupted her training. but the thing that I thought was good, I mean she obviously didn't have like the kick at the end and I wonder if that maybe was part of like the calf. Because I assume you wouldn't be able to really Increase your speed heaps because you're like way more up on your toes, but I'm also no, um, running technique expert. Um, but Yeah. I think it's a, it's amazing job.

really feel for her. Like she came fourth at the last Olympics in the final and she would have been really good. Oh six, sorry, six, sorry. Um, she would have been like really gunning for, um, the final. So I just, I hope her calf has like pulled up okay for the repercharge, which is tomorrow.

Phoebe

yeah, I mean she ran 4. 03. 89 in the end, which is obviously like,

Anna

Hmm.

Phoebe

off her PB.

Anna

Hmm.

Phoebe

she was able to actually conserve some energy towards

Anna

Yeah. Yeah.

Phoebe

a really tough heat, I'll say, she had Faith keep Ye gone.

Anna

Yeah.

Phoebe

Godwin a favorite for this event. uh,

Anna

Hiltz. from the U. S. Bell, who has just, Is one of my new, new girls that I like.

Phoebe

right? She's on the list.

Anna

But she trains with Keely.

Phoebe

Ah, okay. then, um, great run from Maya Ramsden from New Zealand as well.

Anna

across the ditch.

Phoebe

six. Snuck into the top six. And she looked stoked. It was so good to see.

Anna

Yeah, I did feel a bit sorry for the Irish girl Sarah Healy, who also trains with Keely. She fell across the finish line, but hopefully she's okay for the repercharge tomorrow.

Phoebe

Hopefully, yes, that's right.

Anna

So, Heat 3, we had our girl, Jess Hull. this was insane because this is the first time, I reckon, like, I've ever seen in my life, there's like A middle distance, like I know it was only the Heat, but there's a middle distance event. And the main person that's being spoken about, and the person that has majority of the, camera on them is an Australia, is an Australian, sorry. So Yeah. like Jess Hull was the favorite going into this, this heat.

I'm pretty sure her PB is five second, was five seconds faster than like the second fastest in the heat, which is

Phoebe

Yeah. She's just in a different category now. I agree. I found that, like, I was listening to, you know, American commentators, and all they're doing is talking about Jess Hull. And the camera just, like, keeps panning back to her

Anna

It was so cool. So cool. what did you make of the race?

Phoebe

I think it was a really great race. I think Jess ran very, intelligently. She sat behind the leader for the entire race and whenever anyone made a move or jumped into the lead, she would just reposition herself and get behind them. Like, Her ability to position herself is actually really impressive. She can get herself out of any little bit.

I don't know if she like commands this like respect on course now, but she, yeah, so she just sat on the shoulder of the winner the whole time, finished in second in 4. 02. 70, which is like a stroll in the woods for Jess Hull, I feel, at

Anna

I was gonna say, it's like 12, it's like 12 seconds slower than her, um, PB, which is actually crazy. It's sort of, it's strange, it's Like, things like that where you realise how quickly she is.

Phoebe

Oh my god, I

Anna

How quick she is, sorry. Cause I'm like, oh that's a fast time. But then at the same time it's like, oh wait, that's 10 seconds slower than her PB. Anyway.

Phoebe

was also like, oh for Jess that's a slow time.

Anna

Mmm.

Phoebe

the field wasn't bunched up, like, everyone, for everyone else this is a really, still a really, like,

Anna

Yeah. Yeah. I liked the quote that she gave, Mitch Dyer from straight at it. I really, I thought it was really interesting. She said it was different coming in today in previous years. This is the most nerve wracking round. Whereas in a way there wasn't nerves today. It was just anticipation. I was ready to start and get into these next five days. Like ideally it's a little more comfort zone now. Which I just think, speaks volumes about, her confidence.

Phoebe

Her confidence

Anna

Which is, pretty cool.

Phoebe

Her mindset. Yeah,

Anna

Yeah.

Phoebe

It made me, I mean, I'm already so excited for these next few days, but it like, she's so ready to go.

Anna

ready. if you haven't listened yet, I highly recommend you listen to our 1500m deep dive, episode because at the end of that we have an interview with Jess Heil for like 15 minutes and she was so generous with her answers and an all round lovely impressive woman. Very, comes across very lovely, which I'm sure she is, but she is a beast when she gets onto the track.

Phoebe

Yeah, that's it. So, rapper challenge of 1, 500 meters is done. Tonight, Australian time, I think, close to 9 p. m. and obviously we'll have Lyndon Hall competing in that. What's your predictions for the Rapid Charge, Emma?

Anna

I think, oh, I don't want to say it, but I feel like if Lyndon's a way, a world in which She, gets through. But I'm hoping I'm wrong, and I am often wrong, so.

Phoebe

She, I mean, she does have the benefit of like, she would have one of the fastest, easily one of the fastest PBs out of anyone in the Rapid Charge rounds.

Anna

Yeah, oh Yeah. for

Phoebe

never run under four minutes. So,

Anna

definitely.

Phoebe

Yeah, Yeah,

Anna

Um, and

Phoebe

on.

Anna

Yeah, and then, so also tomorrow, we've got the men's 5k, the heats in, Paris morning time. So, it'll be the evening for you guys all in Australia. so in that we've got Stewie McSween in Heat 1, and then Morgan MacDonald in Heat 2. So, this event is the first eight in each heat advance to the final. So you gotta be top eight, there's nothing on times.

Phoebe

any predictions here?

Anna

I reckon Morgan Oh, nah, I actually, I don't. I don't. I I really hope Chewie gets through. And I really hope Morgan gets through. Surprise, surprise.

Phoebe

I hope that the Aussies get through. I reckon gonna get through. I feel like he's, he's had some incredible races. He, yeah, and I think, if he's in, if he's in form, he should, he should

Anna

And then there's also the men's 800 metre heats tomorrow So this kicks off at, just before 8pm Melbourne time or 11. 55pm local time.. so we've got the young Peyton Craig in heat one. and then Joseph Deng in the third heat, and then Pete Boll in the fourth heat. So similar to the Women's 800, it. is the first three in each heat advance to the semi final, and then all others advance to the rep charge round.

Phoebe

yeah. And do you have any 800m predictions?

Anna

I reckon Peyton Craig will get through, and I think he'll be the Aussie to get through.

Phoebe

What makes you think Peyton will?

Anna

I just feel like he's young, up and coming, he's kind of got nothing to lose, and I feel like if That's anything to go by with the women's races, like they seem to just be the ones that are shining through.

Phoebe

That's true? Yep,

Anna

Mmm, what do you reckon?

Phoebe

Um, I'd like to think Pete. I mean, I just think Pete Boll can perform really well in these And so, Yeah, he's got the most experience at this stage and I think he's got the time in his heat to hopefully get through as well. Yeah,

Anna

event of them all tomorrow is the women's pole vault with our gal Nina Kennedy, one of the favorites for the event. I'm so pumped to watch this. I love watching pole vault and like, if it's anything, if the men's pole vault yesterday was anything to go off, this final is going to be so sick. So it's on tomorrow.

Wednesday at, 6. 15pm local time, so it's about 2. 15am Melbourne time, so not the most ideal time for watching, but I highly recommend putting it on, because I reckon it is going to be so good. I'm

Phoebe

it does go

Anna

in Nina, I reckon she's going to win,

Phoebe

gold. Yeah, she's the world world isn't she?

Anna

She's a, she's a joint world champ, with Katie Moon from America. But she? has said there will be no sharing of medals

Phoebe

Oh,

Anna

round.

Phoebe

yes, Nina. good.

Anna

alright, nice to chat to you.

Phoebe

Same to you. Um, hope you enjoyed listening and we'll be back this time tomorrow with our next Daily Recap.

Anna

Woo, see ya!

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