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Tari Trón: ¿Unión Libre o Matrimonio?

Jun 24, 202421 min
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En el podcast de Rosario Busquets Nosti en Chayo Contigo hablamos sobre: 

Invitada: Tari Trón, especialista en temas de pareja
- ¿Unión libre o matrimonio?
- Diferencia entre compromiso y acuerdos

Transcript

Welcome. All a chayo with you today program with our specialist in partner tar welcome and let' s enter right. What' s this about us living together. Sometimes this one let' s live together is based on naivety, also based on what' s going to be better. And many of us are leaving because it' s not so good at home and to be able to leave we need a lot of important things, like the economy we'

ve talked to you about. Don' t be self- sufficient, be independent so they don' t tell us what to do, criticize us, etcetera. And before we go to live together, we' re gonna let her fall in love. How it has to happen to you in twinning, where you see the wonderful person and then go on to love, which involves discipline, to be what involves work, as we have heard a thousand times

made to give water to the little plant has to be so. And of the difficult things is to be able to put limits to friends, to families of origin not and to check our impulse control well, because if we are young, it is orale we go, we throw ourselves, if we can, we will take the risk how fun or what unique, how deep, how cute not. And all that gets dangerous. Already getting into everyday life,

having to pay what you have to pay, in responsibility. You touch the kids and I say kids between the ages of seventeen and twenty- four, think about it Wait a bit, you don' t need to hurry. If I stay with the idea that I have to give a little time to have gone to love before I go to live together. How do I know I' m already going to love. That' s a very good question. That' s a very good question. That means it doesn' t stop to make it clearer. They' re starting to see. We

' re starting to see the differences. That' s what I call relationship adjustments. I don' t think I' m a little disappointed. Look what you' re doing to me. I didn' t expect this from you no and those are the first clues, because they are questions that come more often. The emotions we call negatives, which are not necessarily negative. Yeah, it' s disappointment. Something is no longer happening, I am

no longer number one as it was. Everyone who' s going to start taking a little bit of their life and that' s where you wait to work it out and you' re going to spend love are okay ironic. What about marriage then? Unlike living together. Marriage, as you know, is something in front of society. It wasn' t done. It' s the legal aspect where in front of an authority you decide to join. Today, this can disunite you and there is no need and cause for divorce.

But I' m not going to talk about this. So it' s legal and I recommend that couples who are going to get married where they ' re going to have a commitment and agreement, right now, let' s see the difference, have a life project, there' s an intention, a responsibility of everyone for what they contribute or what they take away from marriage. In marriage you have to have a positive attitude that we are going to do this together, be a team, take some dic pri discipline and

have an intention, an intention to be together or to make family. The difference then with marriages is that you have within a legal framework that often protects you, protects you sometimes in instances, for example, of the link, of the social insurance, of list, etcetera. It' s not necessarily that easy. If you are the living person, there are no certain things that people prefer to know then that to enter there are two people and you have to know well what it is to get out of there only one.

Given what you just said. This would then mean that everyone who first lived together would have to end up matrimonying not at all. I' m not at all. Thinking like that. There aren' t some people where marriage has the pretty part to turn white. Okay. That might go to church to have a big party in living together. They also have this tradition of doing a ritual there, but I don' t think everyone living together goes to marriage. Today we see that the order of things is no longer cool

is the same. It used to be courtship, marriage, and children. Now sometimes there are first children living next to marriage. Then things have changed. They don' t have the same order anymore. Don' t ask

me which is the best. I can tell you that' s what' s best for that couple and how they talk about what' s important to you and me and why and what it symbolizes, so being able to talk about it in another couple We can talk about what it' s about about marriage and ask, like, ten questions or give the public ten questions so they can solve them before they get ready to take their firm. All right, even if the signature could be in the case of living together symbolically.

But already thinking about this concept you' re talking about, I do believe that the human doesn' t like to have these rituals by the way, not because they mark something, they mark a before and a after. So living together. I' d invite you to do a little ceremony. They can be with their parents, they can be with great friends. Not having

a beer being together, but it' s something that marks. That' s why we have it from the earliest times, not death rituals, auti christening rituals, not this when when you have your first menstruation, when you go from child to adult, because it helps is something, it' s something cute, something symbol, and it helps in the little head, it doesn' t help to make it clear that you' re already going to leave it, that' s what' s behind and you' re going

to form in a new person. There' s a transition to make now. The difference you did make Tari is between falling in love and the transit to love. What would be the basis of love, the basis of love.

It is an intense feeling that what wants to push you is to the Union with another person, where you fully expect reciprocity, where you want certainty that the other person is there for you that you feel that he will be a team, that there will be continuity that he will return, that every time he leaves he returns, because there are some couples where they play. I' m angry, I' m angry and I' m back for two days, etcetera. And all they put in is restlessness, they get

scared, and I don' t recommend that. No. What' s also important is predictability, not knowing what' s going to happen that you ' re going to be there. For me and of course it contains joy, desire to live together, communicate, communicate with respect, communicate clearly, communicate with a desire to know the other, not only that we know ourselves, because we humans are not selfish enough or self- centered where we want you to understand me. I want you to know what' s happening to

me and we don' t have the same for each other. And another thing I like inside love is the creative part. The creative part is what we can accomplish together or we can achieve apart, because we are two separate beings, but by constantly bridging into being, we return with later all that love implies. Yes, what else is there to look at where the most is written, is written more in the romantic part as much as we have

in the books, is the love of the couple. No, it is deep and intense and, at the same time, it has all its difficulties, its difficulties. It' s not even what we love. Sometimes we hate them for the moment, but we give them a preference. I want the public to know that hatred also exists within a loving relationship, because it is not momentary hatred and it has to do with the hurt of the ego. There is also love for children. Many couples confuse a little love for

children than love for the couple. They' re two totally different books. But that someone wants to rip off the other' s leaves because well, yeah, because it gives him, it makes him jealous, it gives him a sense of competition. He' s not my husband, he was just for me, no, and now I have to share it with this beautiful little girl where I see him who might live for her, etcetera. And that' s something to talk about And it happens very son, Hi Mom, who' s turned to see her kid, which is a beauty.

There is nothing more unique, and there are others and there are other women, other men where they are also forgotten that you have to exist the love towards the children and decide to turn just with the couple, then we are what we can do. Supposedly, it' s every other love that makes me exquisite love to your friends. No, and your friends are there who are going through the good and the bad, where there is honesty, where there is help you in difficult times. It' s a good support for

you at loudspeakers. There' s nothing like that. And let' s make the distinction right. How men make their friendships and how we, women, do not seem entirely different at all. No, when you start seeing it, it' s not sports, drinking. Well the practices that many of them have have talks of ah well, you' ve seen Fulanieta as such not as tasty is, etcetera. And even if I don' t do anything, they' re bragging about it, because that' s pretty

much the male code. But there isn' t. No, I don ' t mean there isn' t. But it' s rare to say what' s wrong with you, how you are, I talked about how you' re customers. While women talk about everything, we practice our emotional life, we practice our children, we talk about the fear we have, this one of the dysfunctions that happen. We are waiting for an intervention,

support, to tell us the truth. I' ve explored that between why r several of my patients say good and how your friendship relationship is has nothing to do with it, because sometimes you lose the sport, live in the canteen, be alone, alone in a group, as well as Toby' s club. And women are very different and do not touch with time there is a vacuum that happens to them because they have no one to empty all their emotionality with. We talked about this way in which we make friendship between

women and men. And you mentioned something in the end about this void that can suddenly be generated specifically in men. I got it right. Yeah, totally, it' s totally part of how we educate. We don' t educate the man to be strong, not to cry, not to be afraid, to go forward. Yes, and many of the emotions we consider once again negative and we will talk about that in another program. You don ' t have to repress them, you have to suppress them, you have

to exile them, etcetera. You don' t have to have strength, you have to have courage, push forward to sustain everything. Then there are certain emotions that they feel should not be felt and apart, they are projected to women. That' s not weakness. However, there is a gap. A hole is like you' re ripped off a piece of you to be a man. Part of being a man, sadly being disconnected. And

women want that connection. And we' re fried and watered and fried with the connection and the man says well, not enough, because apart he doesn ' t know what it is but we' ve helped educate. So and in time, and in time they do not go in with very certain distresses. They feel isolated, not and feel that something there is a vacuum, it enters into a kind of depression that neither accept the depression of men, because soos of old, as you know and fall into certain crises hea crisis.

I don' t know if 40s don' t, or 50s, etcetera. But between menus you listen to those emotions don' t go away. They' re there, you have them suppressed, but at some point they' re going out. And that doesn' t talk between men, I mean, we' re talking about a reality gene, of course, of course we talk and talk about how things work out. Then, pushing to resolve, everyone has a help and radiance of ideas and do not stop from either friends to ask a little more to have a more complete view of

what is going on so that they can give a better solution. All men are seen not how to fix and grab things straight. Not then shall we return to what should be done as the couple within the relationship, How we handle as a couple within the subject of today, of relationship, of marriage, by living together and so on, that which begins to happen to man within the relationship, first it is not clear that one does not see because one is, that is, the couple, involved in settling the marriage within

those of the rules and the canons that are required. Where I' m going to take care of children more or less predominantly because that doesn' t mean that women aren' t going out to work that if they go out, but they mostly touch us and men have a relationship with what I see is distant emotionally with their children. Not then does the couple not necessarily feel the connected. They' re connected, as you know, through sex,

that has very beautiful things. It' s not the most sex by sex, but there are many windows in that that we could also talk about that at some last moment with reference to the couple and the woman is the one who starts to give the campion or the change is I want to know how you are. I want you to talk to me. We don' t have conversations anymore. And that has to do with two things. One where the differences come in, where everyone is everyone, and the other is the

woman. I think it' s the one that moves the emotional world. I' m not saying we have one part of our brain that does it and another part where we were also educated. The problem with us, the women, is how we screwed up with this, not how we wanted to reconnect wanting and the man doesn' t understand. We' re not for them from another planet, definitely to see what you want, we' re

gonna figure it out, et cetera. But we enter into the subtleties of the human, we enter into the vulnerable parts, it is, we enter into what is divine, without speaking of the part of God, I heard of that which is going to connect us, which is going to make us feel alive. And how hard that is, how hard No, well, you and I do therapy, and that' s why we' re not gonna be defending. But that doesn' t mean he has to lead that

way. There are others, but they dare a little to see inside what is happening to them instead of running solu or going to throw a drink, because it happens a lot now that the express exit is to go for a drink or to dredge or why, because many things happen physically of what goes body, they feel it, they don' t want to feel that and if they stay to feel it, it happens eh, but you have to

put the intention. Then I wonder how we help that. So, if you want some discipline or observation to see what' s there and I swear you' re not going to get old and okay. Or we went to love and how this happens throughout the relationship, especially when the relationship remains. But what happened to falling in love doesn' t suddenly retouch a little bit of yes? Yeah? Yeah? I touch a little bit not love says it also is that I would like you not to see me again and that

you dropped your eyelashes Come to me that not good. I' m gonna be a little cynical. Definitely. No. Falling in love is the state in which you see things as they are. Not because you selectively decide to see coincidences and besides there' s what we call projections. Okay, projections. It' s what you have inside that you want to deposit it with the other and then the other ends up being for your boy, your king, your magician, your only thing. Not then wow ay there is and

it' s very nice to fall in love. There are some people who are kind of addicted to that because they want to feel the butterflies, they want to feel this body movement, this need for together how we miss each other, and so on. But the truth happens, it happens and it doesn' t happen and not because it happens and it doesn' t mean it' s not the couple for you. You have to start seeing yourself, also because we disappoint each other and often want to hold this image of

yourself that is not and we give you the best we can. In the case of women, we get more flirty, we dress in a way, we smile, etcetera, etcetera. Man is more gallant, not this and strength, I protect you, etcetera. You think it is possible to maintain God yes, of course, no, of course, not foolishly agree what

you explained to us and I just used this compromise agreement. When I didn ' t fulfill it I' m missing myself and in the deal I' m missing you, exactly, that' s exactly how I see it differently. One is I commit myself because I align myself with my values, with my principles, with my intentions. No, okay That' s how I ' m engaged. I' m committed to the exercise, I' m

committed to the job. Now the agreement is, in effect, between two and you said so I declare and very well, and there are agreements and there are compromises and then in both there is both living together and in marriage, although there is an instance where the legal goes in there as well. But they' re already, they' re subtleties, not anymore, and I don' t know if they' re subtleties. I think they' re very big things. Rather, it is that sometimes the great is in

the subtle just so it is. Indeed, thank you very much. I think you leave us with a lot of thoughts here that we' ll probably be snooping around in these little capsules that we' re having with you over the days and that, well, people really appreciate it and write and comment and value your participations very much. So we' ll have you on another show. So thank you, thank you, thank you, and until the next and thank you until then. Audio Centre

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