The opinions expressed by Chayo Busquets are supported by his extensive experience as a family therapist and in the previous analysis of the cases presented here welcome. This is Chayo with you. As a jewel we start very good evening to everyone as
I am Chayo Busetch. This is Chayo with you And well, we' re ready to have our second special program that, as you know and as I have commented to you, we' re going to have it starting yesterday and ending next Tuesday, with special guest programs that are going to be addressing the issue of violence, specifically women, for International Women' s Day, which is next Friday. And, well, today I have as a guest a consent of you, someone who all the time writes to me and tells
me when you' re going to invite Dr Calixto back. Well, today is the time to invite Dr Calixto and he' s going to be our only guest man in this series of special programs. And that has been earned by the great knowledge that you have of everything that involves the functioning of the brain. So today we' re going to talk to him about how violence
impacts the brain. Of course, this does not involve all men and women, but especially what happens when a person goes around as familiarizing himself with violence. The brain has an explanation of why that happens to the degree that even women many times say that I deserve it, is that I caused it to happen to see if there is an answer in the brain of this Logecalixto, our dear Eduardo, I am realizing today that it is called Jaime Eduardo Calixto
González, where Jaime came from. It' s the first time I' ve seen it, but that' s how you appear on your UNAM page. That' s very good afternoon, yes, very correct and you decided to be told Jaime, I' m going Eduardo, or at your house I would say no. In the house was Jaime and from high school I was not Eduardo. And it was a wonderful change, because Eduardo I am already more recent look. This is always the case with people with two names
who in one place tell them one and the other. Well, he' s a medical science researcher, head of department and medical area and Ramón de la Fuente National Institute of Psychiatry. Degree in Medicine from the Faculty of Medicine of UNAM, PhD in Basic Biomedical Research from the Institute of Cellular Physiology of UNAM. And I' m going to ask you to forgive me if I don' t read everything else, because we wouldn' t end up and take the whole program. Welcome, very good afternoon. It' s a
real privilege. Thank you very much, so, as you heard, you are our only man in this special week and that represents a great commitment and an honor. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Well, then, let' s start at the beginning. The brain is impacted by violence beyond the blows that can go on our heads in the workings. What about violence between men and women. We are in a vulnerable structure, with a condition in which the vast majority of us do not realize. But there is a
critical age for this. It' s seven, between the ages of seven and fourteen. Or that the experience of life when we are in a violent environment reverberates when we are adults as long as violence and levels of violence occur between the seven fourteen years before, not because the brain changes certain brain structures and then it is no longer so much because some neural groups have matured and
no longer stay in that sequence that friends of Joya. I have to say openly that the great majority of us, when they blow us up, when they break us up, when they tell us a rudeness, when they tell us they don' t love us when they ignore us bony, when we say it' s not invisible, when they don' t talk to me, when they apply the law of ice to me between the ages of seven fourteen, when they rape me or when they ask me to leave my house
because they don' t want me to bother adults. And in that context, this series of violences are practically changing the neural organization. That' s why it' s very important. This age is a critical stage. There is a study that lasted almost eleven years to get published and when it is published, it gave us a light e It is published in one of the
highest impact journals frontense in Neurosens in August of the two thousand eighteen. It clearly acts like the brain that analyzes information, disarticulates, disconnects, the one that generates emotions, changes them, the one that interprets emotion does not respond to the one that generates the projection of emotions that does not mature. It
means the brain those structures where I pay attention to someone. When someone is looking at me and tells me that if or when someone makes me a face of disapproval in less than two seconds, I detect that emotion to the performer or it' s called a symphony twist, this destructive cognitive process. As I pay attention to hippocampus the area with which I am excited amida, the
brain to. These areas I' m saying are connected between the seven fourteen years and what you said at first is if they throw food at me and tell me to eat it off the floor, because here you' re going to finish what there is, but it' s on the floor that part of you have to eat it. You don' t understand that humiliation, that process that is done here. What I' m telling you is that structuring, it makes the brain change its connectivity. Those kiss- your-
uncle stories. But I just don' t want to, he' s your uncle and I' m not going to negotiate Give him a kiss. Then we wonder why we are more prone to depression, aggression or even because the victim becomes a victim. And here' s the point, the levels
of violence we' re growing with. If the father arrives and throws everything or if he screams like that, the way to communicate is through blows and we are between seven or eight, a ship and ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen years, this period of primary and secondary then teach us to realize that it is the way then, how the brain must be passed, to be of attention, to justify and judge seven fourteen years crouching to
the hippocampus, prefrontal cortex, Insula, the part where we process the pain, in the brain. It' s called Insula, which is in the highest religion of our brain. Here, our crown, one right to one left. It' s the place where we process the pain. If I hit my knee, it hurts, if I pinch, it hurts. If you give me a kiss, it activates very interesting, because it is not only physical pain, but also moral pain. When someone tells me already,
I don' t love you and here I have to say it. Welcome to the world, everyone where we are, in an environment where we want the love requited that activation of the Insula. WOW. What consequences it ends up having on a person to have experienced this. Pégate chayo that I tell you and dear friends of jewel that this affects since a person does not enjoy his successes, that he has so many things to do that they tell him.
Listen how well you' re doing, because worse, don' t hear, but hear what great way to run this process, how amazing is it going? Anyone would have done it. They' re the people I don' t recognize. Yeah, well, this one' s gonna go on. It says well, I don' t know maybe, I do, I don' t, but hey. But it' s magnificent. They are people they feel until they feel sorry for others to give them recognition. And this is because the part that interprets emotions at the turn of the
symbol changes its connectivity and is called desensitizing ok consequences. So they can happen to us ten wonderful things in the day and we have a bad time and we start with the bad one. Welcome to the world where our brain isn ' t perfect to say, but you have more elements to enjoy it. I say when you have a problem. The number of neurons our brains have is eighty- six billion. He has eighty- six billion reasons to be
happy and different from the problem. Be bigger than the problem. The consequences are that we do not realize in our alternatives, in our exits, we do not realize the magnitude of our psychological greatness that we can take. At that point is the consequences of a violent father, of a violent mother, of a violent environment. It' s feeling bad and saying no. I
can' t, no, I' m not gonna make it. That is one, the other is a disarticulation, a disconnection, a lack of maturity of our perfrontal cortex, in the prefrontal cortex, which is the haughty part of our little eyes. There is our real logical thought, our cognition, our limit, but there are also our faults and our shames. When I want to get out and I want to stop by, I don' t wait for you where you' re going. Eduardo' s on high, but no cars pass. Eduardo, you' re a behaving person,
well- preserved socially. The prefrontal cortex. As we were beaten, we were limited, we were offended by that perfrontal cortex, men and women are not connected, and here, if I say it openly, the woman matures this cortex. There are stages between the twenty- one, twenty- two years, okay, the average man arrives at this event at twenty- five twenty- six. The factor of testosterone is very strong against this connection,
as it is men. We last longer, behaving immaturely and eventually we grow up to those who are doing well, to whom we are approaching, at thirty, thirty thirty- two, And you say good this man who passed. But if back there' s an event of a violent dad, of a violent mother, of a group of violent adults, this crust doesn' t connect. So the victim, the violent becomes now that the aggressor is the rapist who says ah now goes mine and then you realize, as we
sometimes deceive our children, as we were deceived, the prefrontal cortex. Not the level of violence and among violent ones are not seen in such a way that then the level of violence is increasing. No more violent. He was not violent yesterday, today he was violent and began to do so and learn
it from the age of seven fourteen. Wouse. That process is very important the one you are saying, because this leads me to assume as a hypothesis the ninety- nine point, nine percent of women who tolerate violence and stay in violence and so on. It' s because they bring a learning story that, well, there goes the thing. When I documented this data, eighty- seven percent of the world' s population has an adult problem that
started in childhood and that is hard to integrate. And that' s why he says clearly, because I deserve it, it' s that if he loves me, he' s doing it for my sake and for family day. I' m talking about the common denominator. I don' t want to get to determinism consciousness. They do exist, yes, but I have to say that if we attach the little release of oxytocin that we bring because they didn' t hug us, they didn' t want us, they
didn' t tell us how important we are. If we don' t grow up with it, the level of releasing that hormone that makes us feel like a stick is so low that it' s when it says no, because it' s that and this is very interesting even a rude abuse can generate attachment to a person and we' re talking about disorder. And that ' s why we often say. Hey, he beats you, he hurts you violently, he assaults you, he cheats you, what are you doing
ball. Even the same woman sometimes leaves her house for that reason and reconciles five. It comes exactly and comes with a level of guilt where everyone applauded
him. He said, but why did you come back? The slow question is that my life does not turn, but that there is my dear Edward, have all the affection and respect that you know that I have for you hear what happens to this process, because when I hear you make these descriptions that you have done, yes, because then it would seem that people are already condemned to the brain, learn nothing anymore. After fourteen years and we live in violent environments, there is no way to change that. We have.
We have waiting to see we write. We are a wonderful species, the human where we are the only species that we know we are going to die without any other species. It has this biological gift and that this is the sustenance of many of the relationships we carry and, at the same time, of the appreciation of people. We are a species that, if we were not hugged as adult children, we hardly expressed it. It takes a lot of work for those who didn' t hug us, to give us
a hug. It feels kind of uncomfortable, but interesting. In an article published during the pandemic in two thousand twenty- two indicated that the gene of this hormone that makes us have attachments, which is the same relationship with labor, with breastfeeding, with kissing, with hugging, with telling the truth, with feeling part of a person, of the life of someone, of my
friends, of my family, of my company, be oxytocin. When someone takes me, when it' s worth hugging me, when someone talks nice to me, when they' re kind, when we' re kind, when we say, let' s say the same, but we' re kind. The prosedia how we sing how good they are here, how good are they here? Sure, that oxytocin release part. And when we talk to ourselves or talk to a person in a kind way, it' s an oxytocinated genus, this gene that releases, this wonderful hormone that makes us
change behavior is inducible. Maybe, the first time he gave me a hug, I feel uncomfortable, but eventually, as they start hugging me, I start to give someone a satisfaction, I tell someone very well, that' s how it' s done. That gene is beginning to express itself more. Therapy already works then the fact that they give me an explanation and tell
me yes. Unfortunately, my mother didn' t love me and had a horrible level of violence with me that she told me why she didn' t take the abortion when I made a mistake, when she hit me in such an impressive way, when my dad took me out almost naked in the house, when they went to school and saw me with a black eye and that he passed the child, fell and turned and I didn' t like to
shut up and the teacher understood it. When in school teachers are aggressors, when there is bullying in school, when brothers are the first to take care of me and have so much violence, or the author, because this story is terrible, that these links are very common and clear that we sometimes build that we do not realize because we think it was love of adults. It influences how I bond with food, like my bond with the couple, with
my children. Now all this, because our body has memory, our psychologital memory. The message is we can do something like that. Therapy works and it' s not about going out and looking for culprits, but just give me an explanation and tell me if that happened. And now that I do, we' re going to change in the definition. The experience is re - accommodated, if possible, with psychological work. And here I say it openly, because many would say no, no, not to see the doctor
excuse me. I' m not going to believe that, because psychology doesn ' t let me tell you a fundamental aspect, because this is contundity and it' s science when we see it. I can measure the brain. I can take a picture of the inactive brain and I can see the change in the time that therapy can have on this brain. Regardless of whether he had violence, aggression, he didn' t have a tumor, why,
because therapeutic work makes them grow. Bless you with this really is wonderful neural networks of the prefrontal cortex, which the intelligent part is where we are defining and changing to the migda. The brain neurons grow in the neural networks towards the neurons in an area of the migla called interspersed masses. The friend.
The brain is a region that this do we have two left right which is the one that generates emotions and grows as if they were branches of trees, get into the migdala and we start to change the modulation of how I tone an emotion Sometimes it' s ay again not. If I do you, I do a therapeutic job. I hope deep. I mean, I would have gone out screaming before and I have to calm down to the extent that today, if we know that life in the brain can get information from the
prefrontal and change, we' re a species that we can change. Therapy changes us. The professional effect of carrying it properly helps us a great deal. Magnetic resonance imaging has made us do the measurement of this study and today we have transcranial magnetic stimulation that through electromagnetic fields we can also help you to therapy all these processes that before, ten years ago we do not have to
change it as we integrate our intestine with our current. When they turn around right now, I think a lot of them came back to him or the intestine. Yes, the intestine, because the microbiota, the parts that are in this destiny that have a relationship with the vagus nerve, inform our brain how much neurote emitter I lack and in an incredible way the intestine produces to me not made for the brain to do blacks. Three kisses. We' re back here in Chayo with you and well, they don' t know
how. I' d love for you to hear the conversations we have out of the air, because this man is full of knowledge everywhere and I want to ask you Eduan what' s going on. You already told me something I was very pleased with. If we have hope, we are conscious and can as a species, make changes. Therapy helps in the end, but what happens in a brain when a woman begins to perceive that such violence must
no longer tolerate it, she does not leave the house. Yeah, but then he reconciles, yeah and he comes back and he' s got a lot of voices around him telling him but how, but why, but why don' t you let him. But look at you violent, it hits you, but look at your kids. But, but, but, but, but, if the voices are so loud, yes, why is that experience so strong? Because in general, people who managed to get out of a violent relationship did so after many attempts with relapses not on the road until
they succeed and others have tried, tried and failed. What' s going on here? There are three factors that I can tell you right now. You see one, the decrease of the prefrontal cortex, the previous violence that we premiered as adults with. Yes, because I had already been raped,
I had already been beaten. And the decrease in the structure that connects the two cerebral hemispheres is called a callous body the smaller the popocallous body, that is, the less the two hemispheres, the left and right, speak, makes the prefrontal cortex immature for longer. There is a relationship proportional to greater violence, less maturity and then we see no chayo limits we do not realize the error. And even if we know that maybe we could have done it
differently. We remake it one, the maturity of the perfontal. We' re late. Then to be late to a place because it accommodates me like this and I will not do what would have commonly touched me if biologically I had the maturity and I would have said no enough. Second point, Stockholm syndrome. There are people who with so little oxytocin are able to generate attachment. I have to tell you that when we were so mistreated and someone smiles
at us, it' s the love of our life. When someone tells us I love you we don' t question anymore and we don' t build other things. It' s so strong the release of oxytocin that we can accept any endless things and then we turn around and tell it you realize how it mistreats you, how it speaks to you yes, but it' s mine. I' d rather have this than not have it. It ' s very strong what I' m saying and again without determinisms and I don' t want to ignore because I' m a woman. I'
m not talking from a perspective. Please excuse me if I' ve come to offend at a point where science has to go in and tell you realize it' s not, or it' s elevated subsitocin because you didn' t know how to release it in time. And the third point is very strong. It' s called julet rose syndrome. When you tell someone that something doesn' t suit them, they release more dopamine and become entrenched and obsessed that it' s not there. And I just don' t want
to see you with him. And it' s gone that I don' t love you, since you come to the house and you didn' t bring it. But they left and they had the baby and then they come back and then he tells him, but I don' t want him to take the baby out and we stay with the son. And four months later, I already have the whole family living and then where I' m wrong and then we realize that sometimes the orders we told him to do I told
you not to be with him and you were. I told you not to get pregnant and you got pregnant that they weren' t here and they' re all together. Wait for me I have given you all the instructions, almost that you have made me counterpart and then you tell him because you made me rom syndrome of the mejoleta the more social opposition you put me increase, more dopamine and my obsession. This is a bad psychological teraplactic process that needs to be known, claimed and seen. Please, we' re obsessed.
Please see things in their magnitude. We all fall in love, make the worst mistakes in our lives because of the high level of dopamine. Please pass it on, but four years later, we' re talking about you having to make a very good decision. It stays there or we put it aside, but they also take the union. So the point is, as I was treated in children, how much oxytocin released and also who tells me that
obsession. I tell you and it can tell us good cheyo seven people the same message, with different, all messages, all in different times, and they are practically entrenching us because they release us so much dopamine that they obsess us. So much to say, because I can do it and what do you think I' m going to prove you the one who was wrong. This is because one of the terrible biases we have in life is that we always think we are right and if we don' t, we get angry
or sad. The message is you want to be right or happy, and I would ask you to make the decision. But please don' t get obsessed. I want to ask you Eduardo now over the head of the violent OK. Yes, and remember that I' m talking like that in male, because we' re depending on Women' s Day, not because I think there are no violent women, but today we' re specifically dealing with
everything that has to do with March 8. This violent man. I' m very attracted to the attention I see it, because I see it in my patients, I hear it, I read it in the emails that come to me. This violent man dissemulated very well that he was violent and in that process seduced, even in ways as if he were an expert in dealing
with women. It is that we want to like how to get there and since we are involved in the relationship, then the brazen violence begins, because I already learned yesterday with a forensic psychologist who came who told us that we did not see the subtle violence, that had disguised love as jealousy like him send me the photo where you are, avoid what time you are going to come, because I am worried about your safety, not that it is this
whole part, but somehow there is one or it was a dissimule and then it turns out that the violence begins and the escalation of violence begins and we get to the most dramatic things of life. The question is yes, if it is determined by the learning it had and then now it becomes violent because it received violence, but it can do this maneuver. Then he is aware of the violence and is concealing it and was able to control it, even
if he had the impulse until he already has the person trapped. What happens then how you explain that. Seventy- four percent of the population of the violent men you just described, they work on the magnitude that they do know themselves violent, they recognize their rancidness, that the point is that I already know what they' re going to tell me right now. So, there ' s 20 percent out there, 25 percent of those who don' t
and fall into the okay disorder. The point is that the violent is desensitizing, he' s attenuating, he' s romanticizing his violence. I' m doing it for everyone' s sake. Look, my dad was more violent than me. No. No, no, no, no, no, you get me wrong, because the situation, the problem is that the testosterone level and I' m going to be very very careful social networks are
wonderful and at the same time give us the counterweight. But, please, my answer is in the margin of the biological, because many times they tell me doctor you are justifying them. It' s already happened to me and I have to be very careful with what I' m going to say that the level of testor is one of the males that makes fewer neurons connect on average than a woman. We both have the same number of neurons. The average males have them less connected. Testosterone, the hormone that makes us men,
have the muscles, the voice, the sequence of violence. Also that we have this makes us disconnect neurons, one two, the migda, the brain, the echo neuroanatom site where the aggression is. Violence is as much as seventy- five percent greater in males, okay, yes, besides that we attach learning. I' m in a violent environment. I have a community where it is right, that man speaks as an express and besides, and this situation then causes the biological, the psychological and the social to conjure
up. I have to be very cladusa in that context, because then the greatest of men if I know if they feel violent, but they justify it.
And here the point is that from this of this seventy- four percent, which so goes practically forty percent stripe into the in the disorder, already of the personality, at the point where we see individuals bordering on structured psychopathy, have plans, generate this activities and make things happen without even they are present, the level of violence is scaled up and sometimes clearly seduced and projected.
And finally, in the face of this whole situation, this can go to a situation where they perceive and feel well at the level of violence they generate. It generates oxytocin, becoming violent and doctamine and endorphin. It is such a pleasurable feeling that then they seek to repeat the process and then turn
the children, the family, including the community, where they say. Well, I' d rather be afraid of you waiting for me is and you ' re already in an extreme situation and you' re afraid of your family. These situations a whole neuro connection with a neurochemic process that is no longer an event about which we can say is something simpler. The seven- four - year- old thing didn' t happen. It passes only from your
learning and I repeat these of these events. The article published by Ccasiarse on the 2, 000th front in Eurosan clearly indicates that the great majority of males go on these climbs and says I am less violent than a year ago.
Don' t wait for me what you' re comparing to is last year ' s, even no. This is an escalation that, of course, they do not see it increase and their level of awareness is so strong that in the face of this situation they are manifesting more and more detonating with smaller detonants than you just said. Indeed, through this relationship, they build a bond of affection and coexistence with their family that if something does not exist, it is not right. And then in the family he says he has.
Kely didn' t say no, no, he didn' t scream ky didn' t say anything, because he probably had a gallbladder pain, a pain in his foot, because he didn' t behave like he was doing anymore. Unfortunately, this level of violence is becoming more frequent and in these communities, where it seemed to be a pattern of lime that, where the violent grandfather, the violent father, the uncles, the nephews, the violent
grandchildren see it. It' s modes of learning, but it' s also biological, right now, because it' s hard process and we' re going to come back after the music and I' d like to talk a little bit, because we' re practically running out of the program of how we do. Then we can, as a family, sister and daughter mom, help that woman who has given us signs that she wants to get
out, but she reconciles. But he couldn' t. Let' s see how it is,' cause we already said no. No, if we keep forbidding and saying and so on, the person is generated by this that you told us how so. We help when someone is close to us living in violence and what would be the way. I' m going to list four things. The first one, being nice. Talking to us greatly
increases neural activity. Nothing increases neural activity more than the human voice. And I' m talking in a mass media and I' m very happy to say it in jewel ninety- three points. Thank you. The human voice is one, it has a neurophysiological magic to connect the fact of knowing to use it with a phrasing with a contundity, but, being kind, they
help a lot or accompaniment through the process of the voice. Second, you know that we make two thousand one hundred and sixty decisions a day and that you stay thinking doctor how you do for that gives you money with that to go tell how many decisions. I do, but there are decisions to decisions. I' m asking you, please. First point, between 9: 00 a m and 1 p m is the time when we' re going to pay more attention. The most important thing is to get him on that
schedule. Don' t make decisions after that schedule, because you' re already tired, you' re tired the moment you go to site eight of the night and say it' s when he arrives and we' re going to talk about it is the worst moments. You never argue in the car, you never argue over the phone. Don' t do it. It ' s one of the unfortunate things we do and say, because get in
the car and right now we fix it. It' s not going to be the worst, because the fact that the brain is arguing at a four - by- four event and where neither one of them is giving attention, because then certain things happen and there less and it' s driving. It ' s the worst situation. I ask you, please, do not interpret
a message. When you read it turn and I tell you look until you are mocking nothing else says that you didn' t come, for you see until this one doesn' t wait for me there says that there is not a person who doesn' t enter in this dynamic. It is essential that you understand the schedule at what times you are going to do it. Thirdly, I ask all people to stress, to anger, to cry and to
information. Vali of emotion. I don' t like to see you cry, but I accept your cry and, besides, I understand that you' re crying for something that I told you is different from not crying, don ' t get angry not at that moment you say don' t wait for me, so I don' t care what I' m saying. So no no no, you don' t detect that you' re not putting it like that the moment we do, this is if we really want to change your information valid at that point is to recognize that the brain wants to
be right. Please give yourself the opportunity and I ask you something at this essential point. I, when I speak from the point of view in neurophysiological, tell you to remove from the equation, as well as in a mathematical equation that removes x squared and the result is another. In the equation of that point is to remove the migda from the brain and the result is to
be another. And I know what you' re going to tell me right now and how the hell little my brain is to Dr Calixto the point analyze his breathing. When you are aware of your breathing, you decrease the activity of the tonsil the brain immediately remove it. Second point, if you tell the assailant you' re right. It' s like strategy. The aggressor no longer disputes whether he continues to assault, has poor mental health. Okay, if a person keeps assaulting someone who' s crying and doesn' t
detect tears who' s crying and there' s bad mental health. If we' re going to make a decision, please, it' s not like we' re going. You' re right. You' re right. The second floor guy' s right. He hit someone else. No. No. No. No. No. No, I' m just saying strategy. You' re right. Oh, you' re mocking me, don' t you. I' m saying you' re right. Look for everything you' ve been telling me. Indeed, at that moment I remove the friend, the brain from the discussion and he will realize that
something wonderful appears. And the third point made I say that many times they say ay this for that really neurophysiologists. I have to tell you openly that if you look in the mirror, argue or cry, it changes and modifies the way it gets excited. We don' t like to see the face equation when we' re crying arguing. The brain automatically doesn' t accept
our angry face, our own. I ask you please, Doctor, I don' t have a mirror, because buy it is carrying it a place near and before this point it is already said, but don' t ask you that, Eduardo. I want you to be more deep in things and I' ll tell you the most important person in this world is You. And if something doesn' t work, say it and you have every ability to say, I disagree, because it' s You who should love each other the most. Who' s listening to me. Oh, I always
get this feeling that I want more. I want more, I want more. When I talk to you about how they look for you in ecalisto magazine, on Facebook, in former eucalyptus. There I am and on Instagram with Dr Eduardo Klixto perfect. Follow them I' ll put them on anyway on social media so they have it. And we' ve already planned a new visit with a very interesting subject. That' s right, keep' em up. Eduardo, as always, my absolute thanks. It' s a hono to me, my admiration, my love, I respect myself, I
respect my baby chayo. Thank you very much, thank you very much. Today, thank you very much. And I remind you that tomorrow we have three different generations of women talking about how they lived and have experienced this perception, about gender- based violence and on Friday remember. We' re going to have the author, one of the authors of the book. They are not everyday micromachisms and with that we will close this week and we will still
have Monday and Tuesday two other programs that they will like very much. I ' m Chayo Busquets. This was chayo with you s n Stons Audio Center