Episode 184 - "Fleet Faith & Flat Tires: A JFW Tale"

Music. What's up, JFW family? Welcome back to the Channel 23 podcast.

The purpose of this podcast is to reach out and touch the fleet, to engage and inform everyone with all things JFW. Things are a little spicy in the studio today. We got Jim White, Brother Dave White, and Super Dave Weldon. What's happening, everybody? Good morning. Morning, JFW family. Guys feeling patriotic this morning? Hell yes. Absolutely. All right. I like that. I like the enthusiasm. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,

one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Before we get into the truck of prayer, let's keep Dustin Romero Sr.

In our thoughts and prayers today. he's still trying to recover from his surgery and he's got a wound on his stump and he's having trouble peeling up so did he i haven't heard the last update did he have surgery on the wound then jam not to i don't know if you guys know that or i don't know all the details i know linda's been talking to him and you know yeah i mean i know he took the time off because he still had the wound it's never healed or isn't healed so yeah dustin shout out to

you buddy i hope i hope you get through this. I know you've had several years of tough breaks. I mean, it's a fight for you. I get it. Father God, we thank you for the opportunity to go out and do some trucking today. We pray for the safety of our fleet, all of their families, and all the other families and individuals we come across on the road today. We pray for patience and the making of good, safe decisions.

We pray to be action and free, and that we all make it back to the comforts of our homes this evening. We pray for healing and 100% recovery for all of our family members that are ill, No matter what, we trust you, God, and it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. As a reminder, anything you hear on today's podcast, has not been paid for. It is just the man in this room's expressed opinions. We need some sponsors. We should see if JFW will sponsor us. Do you know anybody there? I think they do.

I got a list of equipment to send, like a wish list, to our new sponsors. If you're interested in sponsoring this podcast, let us know. That'd be awesome. I kind of have to laugh, Jim, or Jam. I just watched, do you remember the movie Seabiscuit? Oh, yeah. I mean, great, great, fabulous movie. And we watched it, I don't know, a week ago or two weeks ago or something like that. And they always go over the guy that's at the horse track and he's talking about

the horses that are racing. And he always has the scoop on this or that or the other. But he always has all the noise pieces in the audience. So like when that chime comes on and it's like, bong, bong, bong. And then he has the news report and he does that. You know what I mean? He's sitting there with the chime and he's bonging that. And he's got a bell and he's got one of those deals you blow. And it's like, I mean, it's just, I forget the actor's name.

I think it's something Macy, but he plays that part. And he does an amazing job. That's a really good movie. It is an amazing movie. It makes you feel so proud, right? To be an American, to be the little guy, to be the, you know what I mean?

Dang it is an uplifting movie and the way they portray it in a time in america when we needed it so much you know i wish there's i wish there was something of that caliber for today you know that could unite us bring us all together that would be amazing yeah well we didn't have to argue or fight about it or right think that offended somebody or something right right. I did watch, because of our misspeaking last week, I did watch the Blue Angels on Prime.

Oh, nice. Yeah. I got to say, I feel like the Thunderbirds was more interesting. I don't know if it's because it was a series or if it was longer or if it was just produced better, but it just seems it was more enjoyable. Yeah. I'll have to go back. I need to finish it. I haven't finished it. Except you get to watch people pass out in the G force machine and the blue angels is just like, they all go down. Yeah. That, that one guy, man, he, he's like, like flops over and like,

Ooh, you, you're out, out. The lady, the lady too. Yeah. So, all right. Episode one 83 had 267 downloads. We are at 95.5 thousand total downloads and we have 758 followers. Wow. So very cool. Awesome. 4.5 thousand more downloads, and we will reach 100,000, which I think is pretty good. That's time for a sponsorship, right? It is. Reach that big number. I agree. We'll become syndicated.

Telling you so if i gave you a dollar would that mean i could sponsor the podcast yes yes absolutely dave yeah this section of the high road hauling is brought to you by dave weldon super day when i was a kid me and my buddy gave each other a quarter he's like here i'm going to give you a quarter, and did you ever belly whop when you were kids belly flop belly whop we used to call it belly whopping it's when you're instead of sledding down a hill you

just dive right on your belly and slide right down the hill on the snow right so we were that when i fell off my sled, we were unofficially now the very first professional belly whoppers, that's a great kid story dave.

So i saw they have a new support group for people that talk too much, they call it on and on oh man it's time for the dad joke challenge what do you got man I ran across this one and I don't remember anybody doing it it made me chuckle it is a dad joke so what did the zero say to the eight okay, I've heard this. Hmm. Zero, seven, eight. I don't remember. That belt looks good on you. That's a good one. That's cute. That is cute.

I got a couple here. Bob Martian sent me one the other night, and it's a blonde joke, so please don't anyone be offended. But a blonde wants to go ice fishing, so she buys all the gear and she goes to the nearest frozen water. sits down and starts to cut a hole in the ice. And here's a voice from above say, there are no fish under the ice. So she moves down the ice and starts to cut a hole. And the voice says, there are no fish under the ice.

So then she moves again and starts to cut a hole in the ice. And the voice says, there are no fish under the ice. The blonde asks, God, is that you? And the voice answers, no, it's the ice rink manager.

That's funny oh dang thanks bob that was a good one that is a good one that's another visual one could you just visualize that here's this lady out out on a lake you know you know the zambonies running and then and then it turns out she's not out of lake right well i i got one more that's a visual one for you so a guy walks into a bar and sits down and he looks up and there's a banner hanging above the bar. And it says, do three simple tasks and win $1 million.

So he looks at the bartender and he goes, Hey, is that sign legit? The bartender goes, yep. You do three simple tasks and I'll give you a million dollars. All right, man. He says, what's the tasks? Well, first you see that guy at the end of the bar and he points to this gigantic guy sitting at the end of the bar. You got to knock him out in one punch. He says, after you do that, I've got a 12-foot alligator out back. You need to keep her alive and awake and pull her tooth. She's got a bad tooth.

After that, I've got an old woman upstairs. She's 89, and she's been looking for someone to please her. If you go up there and do that and get all three things done, I'll give you a million dollars. So the guy says, all right, I can do this. But first, I need 10 shots.

Orders 10 shots shoots them all back to back just one right after the other, stumbles down to the end of the bar and boom one punch just knocks the gigantic guy right out flops to the floor then he stumbles around back outside to the alligator and he's gone for about 20 minutes all you hear is yelling and pleading and screaming about 20 more minutes goes by he walks back in completely covered in blood his clothes are all torn up he looks at the bartender And he goes,

all right, man, where's the old lady with the bad tooth?

Awkward silence. That is the visual, Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Do you lift the tail? Oh. How do I follow that? Good luck, Nick. Say something, please. So, you know, the other day someone stole my antidepressants. I sure hope they're happy. But did you know also that William Shatner once tried to start up his own lingerie company for women? Did you hear that? Yes. Oh, man. Unfortunately, Shatner panties turned out to be a terrible choice for a brand name. Oh, that's funny. That is funny.

Good stuff. All right. I'm good, Jim. I'm not even going to touch any of those. Too many visuals. Really? What do you got there? I gave it to you. That's it? The zero, yeah. Nice looking felt. I thought you were- Well, I had one more written here, but I'm going to save it.

Oh, man. All right. New employees. We got Sadie Cappuccino. She's a new driver here. And then Jose Martinez. He is a super tandem driver. Is that right? That is right. All right. Welcome to the fleet, Sadie and Jose. Happy to have you. Celebrations, anniversaries. This is a huge one. Huge. Huge. Brother Dave, 38 years this past Sunday, the first. Man, it feels like yesterday. That's almost four decades. You are old. Right? Right. And then another big one, Nicky Gomez, one year yesterday.

Happiness anniversary, Nicky. 37 more to go, Nicky. Hey, in there. And here's a good one. And Jesus Varela, four years this Saturday. Congratulations, Huss. That's awesome. Awesome. Jesus is definitely part of the family. Yes, he is. Absolutely. Great young man. Birthdays, Andrew Berger and Jack Domenico, they both share a birthday this coming Friday. Happy birthday, guys. Yep, happy birthday. Wonder what they're going to do. And then family birthday celebrations. We got Mark Dillon's wife,

Kelly. She had a birthday this past Sunday. Big Country's wife, Jackie Riley. And Dustin Currier's wife, Haley, had a birthday this past Monday. And then Binley McKee, she has a birthday tomorrow. That's Jonathan's daughter. Happy birthday. Yeah, happy birthday, family. Shout outs. Before we get big into the shout outs, I want to start just with an experience I had at the Fuel Isle the other day.

You know, at the end of the day, we like to stand out there and just see who's coming in and catch up and see what people need. And I was just blown away by the amount of good people we have working here. Just driver after driver, person after person, just good people with, you know, good positive things to say that are happy to be here. It just felt really good. That's awesome. I would name them, but then I don't want to not name somebody and be like,

oh, so I'm not a good person? No. So we'll just say that it was just an enjoyable thing to just, you know, truly feel like those family members just rolling up at the end of the day. Absolutely. We try to make that comment, Jam, that, you know, we talk about this and that, and we talk about the bad things or the things that need to be addressed, but we just have so many good people. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the success.

Yep. You know, I know I've said that several times, but it's impossible to do what we're doing without a lot of success. Yeah. I think the attitude is what stuck out to me. Just good attitudes at the end of the day. You know, it's just nice to see.

It's just great and refreshing to hear that. I mean, I came in and was struggling this morning big time and it's just so good to hear that, you know, it's just awesome. Yeah, I heard Super Dave in there wrestling. He started off like, Jesus, Dave. I tried to give you a pep talk, Dave. You did good. Thank you. It worked. Let's see. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Shout out to 0028 Enrique for catching a bolt in 0029's tire and getting it written up.

So Enrique was post-shipping his truck, heard an audible air leak, and found a bolt in his neighbor's tire. So he went and rode it up. I grabbed the chalk, marked it, and Guy Pye doesn't even know he had a flat. Oh, that's outstanding. That is great. I want to give another shout-out to Jason Gammage. He had a really face and overcome up at C-Mex with a stuck load of shell the other day. It was pretty frustrating for him. And it's kind of hard at C-Mex because you can't get in your trailer.

And then to go somewhere to get it out, you'd have to leave. You can't make the right turn or the left. Like he would have had to gone through Boulder. And, you know, I was like, Jason, I don't really know what to tell you, except you're going to have to get it out. Like I could start heading that way. But by the time I get there, you should have looked, you know? And there was no other drivers there. John Jordan was going to stay in hell, but he had to go get preloaded.

And, you know, finally he talked to the loader and the loader let him get in. At C-Mex? At C-Mex. Oh, very nice. Supervised. He stood there and watched him while he was in there, you know, which whatever they got to do to meet their standards, you know. Yep. It's a solution. It's a solution. I mean, fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. I was happy about that. Yeah. Shout out to Jose Barraza for Thursday night and Chris Beam for Saturday night for those guys running Coors.

Thursday night's kind of out of it just because Greg Wise wasn't here. He had some planned pay time off. So to find somebody to go from the day shift to the night shift, that's huge. That is huge. Thank you, guys. And then Chris Beam, we could always count on him to help out. So good job, Chris. Yeah, you guys that do that and volunteer, please be safe. I mean, I know you guys are outstanding to do it, but make sure you be safe. Yeah. It's a big switch from the day. Sure is. I couldn't do it.

I should just flip-flop like that and stay up all night. What do they call it? Your zarkadium? Rhythm? Your rhythm? Yeah. Is it with a Z or? Body clock is what I call it. Arcadian. Arcadian? No. I'll have to look. Yeah, because we, I mean. I think you're right, Jim. Arcadian. Yeah, we've, I mean, we talked about it with Danielle and Jacks are up. We thought, we thought we were right about the Blue Angels. Yeah. She, she worked nights for years.

Yeah. Dave, she flops all, she just got done flopping back and forth and it's, it's, it's tough. Some people can do it, but I think they have that clock. Yeah. Kentucky 10s on nights and that's, that's kind of different. Yeah. Especially in a small town with nothing to do, you know, it's like, you know, uh, anyway. Uh. So Arcadian Rhythms is a module with arcade buttons. We're looking for, it sounds like a Z, but it's C-I-R like circle. Oh, circadian.

Circadian. Okay. We're all wrong. Yeah. Blue angels, baby. Yeah. And what is that definition? That's the body's natural 24-hour cycle of physical, mental, and behavioral changes, Dave. Yeah. The body's designed to sleep in the dark. Yeah. It is, yeah, we are not generally nocturnal, but some people really are. I mean, they thrive at night. They, you know, their clock's just off a little bit. It sure is. I don't trust those people. Linda wants to give a shout out to Jimmy V for doing it right.

We had him use 0079 when his truck was down for half a day. He sent a text, not sure whose truck 0079 is or if someone else is in it today, but I did clean it out and shined it up really nice yesterday. There were Red Bull cans and empty bottles rolling around. Even organized a container between the seats. I felt like I was picking up after my kids. LOL. Anyway, I left it better than the way I got into it. That's great. Way to go, Jimmy. Yeah, thanks, Jimmy.

Love the taking care of the kids, picking up after the kids. Man, I feel that. It's so funny. I mean, you talk about that, and we've ran into like two of our neighbors that their kids are home from college, and they just happen to be girls. And we were just talking about them and they're like, oh my God, we forgot about having our girls home and what a mess it is. And there's clothes here and shoes there and socks over here.

And just pick it up. And Jen and I found it interesting that it's girls, right? And both these parents are complaining about it. And I'm like, huh, I haven't even noticed Sam's back. Like, I don't see anything of it. You wouldn't even know he's at the house other than the car. So kind of interesting. I was like, huh, kind of got lucky there, I guess. So yeah, Jim, you want to give us next one? Oh shoot. Flip. Let me turn it. Let me turn the page, Jim. There you go.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We, Scooby was in the back lot last week and there was a skid steer down in the trees behind the truck stop down in their detention or retention pond they have, you know, it's been there for years.

Anyway, Scooby thought it was kind of weird and told me about it and he said he was going to go over here to the construction, the new buildings going in and the cul-de-sac behind the truck stop and ask them by chances at their skid steer, you know, and, and he went over and he said, you know, if it's not them, I'm just going to call the police. And I'm like, yeah, thanks, Scooby. He said, yeah, I just, I happened to notice it. So I, I'm sure it's stolen. I said, great.

And so, you know, he calls 911 and he tells me the story, but I just, it's, it's frustrating. And I'm sure what a dispatcher has to deal with is incredible, right? I, you know, this is the tip of the iceberg. Anyway, I guess she asked, well, how do you know it's stolen? Yeah. And I just, I kind of laughed at Scooby and I'm like, cause it's in the trees in the bottom of a pond. You know what I mean? What else is it doing? But, but anyway, you know, my shout out is Scoob did call it in.

The Commerce City police couldn't find it. He even seen them, led them around to the skid steer. And of course it was stolen from a construction company right here in Commerce City. But my shout out is that Scooby paid attention to the situation, did something about it, made one simple phone call. When, when Scooby was like, do you know how many people knew it was down there? The, the, the people, the construction guys, they go, oh yeah, we've seen it down there.

Right. And not do anything about it. Not, you know, cause I would love somebody to call if we had a truck stolen, we've had equipment stolen. Call, you know, call the police, you know, do your, I guess do your duty. I mean, when the dispatcher said, how do you know it's stolen? I would have been, you know, it's always easy right now. Yeah. Hindsight's always 20, 20. It's like, cause in the second freaking grade,

I was taught square peg that fits in a square hole, not square peg in a round hole. Yeah. That doesn't belong down there. You know what I mean? Like send somebody over. Yeah. And that's the reason. So frustrating. I get what you're saying, Jim. Like so frustrating. Yeah. It's like the cops don't want to help, huh? Yeah. And they were, I mean, I was going, don't worry about it. Yeah. They were, and everybody was good, but once it got going, but Scooby had to take the step, you know?

And then, and like I said, I didn't want to, you know, dog the dispatchers or anything Cause what, I mean, calling in a, a, something stolen is probably really small on what they, I feel like depending on the neighborhood, you know what I mean? Like Commerce City, if it's not a felony stop, like it's not an emergency. Yeah, exactly. Jim. So you go down a, you know, I don't know. Rampart or something like that. And as a stolen skids are down there, they probably respond a little different. Yeah.

So thanks Scooby for, for doing, I don't know, I guess civic duty. The right thing. The right thing. Above and beyond. Yeah. You know, in a way that's Scooby protecting our house. Well, everybody's house. You know, I was just idly joking with him Monday morning, I guess it was, we were outside the, by the fuel pumps. And I said, Hey, that RV parked out there has been there for a couple of weeks now. You better get on that, Scoob. And he was like, no, it's been there for a month.

And my big problem is they have two kids and they go to work every day. And he goes, they leave early. So this was like 6 AM and they were gone already. And they get up, they take, they must take the kids to school and then go to work. He knew all about it. And I was like, oh, okay. So that's, he's paying attention to everything around to protect us, I believe, and our equipment and all that. Is that the fifth wheel in front of the truck wash with the slide out and then

they put cones in the street? No. It's parked right in front of the red shop. Oh, gotcha, yes. It's a little old motorhome. Yeah. It's old, but it's actually pretty clean. For that- And there's no debris outside of it. They're not piling their trash out there. Right, exactly. It truly looks like a parked motorhome. You could see it in a campground. Yes. Yeah. I wonder how much meth they cook when the kids are in school. I'm just kidding.

Time's better work. Yeah. You seem like that, but you know, maybe that's a family just down, really down on their luck and trying to come back. I'm being a jerk. No, I know you are, Jam, but that's, you know, we're judging a book by a cover. We do, we, we do that every day, you know, and, and yeah, tough. Well, maybe they got really good jobs and they're just saving a lot of money living in that thing. Right. Investing it and they'll be retired by, by 35 or whatever. Right.

We'll all keep working. Yeah. Yep. So true. Never know the story. Back to that, that, uh, you know, the kids on the subway. Yeah. The paradigm. Yeah. Letting them play. Cause their mom just died. Don't know how to tell them. Yeah. Then he wants to give a shout out to Dale. This past Friday, we bombarded him with trucks. He did an amazing job. I think it was 49 loads, approximately 1,500 tons. And thank you to all the drivers at C-Mex Friday for helping everything go so smoothly. Yeah, awesome.

And it was just because we were short on work, the weather, stuff like that, and everybody kicked ass. Thanks, Dale. And all the guys, the drivers. It was good. Good to be family and work together. All right.

Next shout-out. Good morning, gentlemen. want to give a shout out to mr 0075 zach for all his help yesterday with two micro breweries i've never been to shout out to teddy for rescuing me last week and yesterday also to all the mechanics and members of the jfw family i wrote up everybody and that is from jimmy v. Fabio wants to give a shout out to enrique 0028 for helping him with chip seal, and 0025 for helping him on the way to Colorado Springs. That would be Bill Sponenberg.

Oh, nice. Sounds like Fabio was able to link up with some guys and get it done. Yeah, good stuff. Keep helping everybody. Makes it easy. Yep. I got one last shout out, and that's to Henry Goke. I was going to do that one too, Jim, yeah. Oh, okay. No, go ahead. No, it's awesome. Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to shout out to him. You know, English is definitely his second language and he stopped me the other day just to let me know he's been listening to the podcast and it's good.

He had some just suggestions on what could be a little bit better, but I just appreciate him taking the time to, to stop me and want to discuss it. So thank you, Henry. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's absolutely. I was just same kind of shout out as, you know, it's not his language and I, Henry, keep working on your English, buddy. We need, I need you to, you know, communicate because you sound like a great guy and doing a good job, but we all need to communicate. So good job.

Any other shout outs, man? I have one for 108, 00108, Emmanuel Rojas. Oh yeah. He found a broken S cam tube on his lift axle on his truck. And, you know, I don't think he's been in that truck that long, but that piece has been broken for, for a bit, you know, so it hasn't been discovered until he discovered it. And it's a big deal. I mean, that break was a hundred percent inoperable, you know,

and we had to order parts. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't your typical brakes, broken break, you know what I mean? And yeah, so shout out to him for checking his truck out and doing a good pre-trip or post-trip and, and finding that. So we have parts here now and I, I don't know if we're gonna get it fixed today. I hope we do. But anyway, yeah. Yeah. I know David, you know, he's kind of the leader of the super tandems. He says that Emmanuel is doing really well. Nice. He did mention that. Yep.

Awesome. That's great. That's great. I got you you got it Dave you good yeah I mean I just I want to you know do this one more time and I know we brought it up and stuff but my shout out is for Ricky in the shop and I've just it seems like in the last six months Ricky I've seen man I'm probably more than six months the way the time goes by I shouldn't put a. Time on it, but you continue to grow Ricky.

And I appreciate that. And I see that. And I don't know if you realize what it means, not to me and Dave, but to everybody, because as you've grown, I see you connect with dispatch. I see you connect with the driver. I see you connect with the repair. I see you connect with, with Mikey and stuff, and you're seeing the whole picture.

And that's, that's the growth, you know, not just, Hey, you know, mentioning that break, not just that brakes broke, but you know, or not just the tarp, but can, he knows the locations of our pits and our plants and stops with dispatch. Can I get this guy loaded? Can you move him off this load? It's just, and that's, that's growth. That's seeing the big picture and, you know, kind of, kind of singling them out.

But, you know, Teddy does a great job that, you know, like you said, Jam, you don't want to not mention some names because we have so much good people, but Ricky, you just, you just stood out last week. You know, Mikey was off last week for a few days and then Mikey missed a Monday, you know, with a funeral and stuff, but yeah, you're just, you're just stepping up. Thank you. I appreciate that.

You know, the interesting about, interesting thing about that, Jim, is Ricky listens to the podcast every week too. And he knows what we need. He, he takes the test. He doesn't need to take the quiz, the podcast challenge, or what do you like to call it? The survey takes that thing, you know, so he goes above and beyond to know what's going on here at JFW and he's just engaged. And to me being engaged, that's the key to success here. If you're engaged, you're going to be successful.

Absolutely. It's so true, Jim. I guess that's a, that's exactly what I'm getting at. And I know he listens to the podcast cause he's asked me stuff, you know, and, and yeah, it's being engaged. Yeah. The good, good stuff. Any other shout-outs, guys? I'm good. Don't have anything else on mine.

Okay. This is kind of, I guess, a shout-out, but it's this week's edition of Drivers Doing It Right. That's driving, dumping, pulling you on the scale, and no phone use. And this week, we got Chili Dog and Frank McCoy. Nice. Good job, man. Yeah, congratulations, you guys. All right. Moving into the meat and potatoes of the podcast.

This week's discussion, we're going to kick it off with an accident. And we had three weeks ago on May 13th. What's going on over there, Brother Dave? Ah, there's just a, yeah. We'll get into it. There's a video on Connect that when you guys see it, you'll, it's funny. Uh-oh. Funny or funny? Oh, it's stupid. Yeah. Stupid funny? Yeah. Okay. I can't wait to watch. We'll all get a chance to look.

Yeah. But back to the accident, Jam. Yeah. Yeah. the, you know, minor accident, poor choices on our point, on our part, we're forced to do things we shouldn't have done, shouldn't have had to do. But the person that we hit hired an attorney and they're asking us for preserve evidence and that's shutting the truck down after three weeks, different things like that. And it's just, it's what we preach about happening is happening.

And we have to be vigilant. Every one of you guys driving girls, gals, whatever safety team, any one of us, I drive a company vehicle, you know, but we, we, we just have to be vigilant about everything we talk about because, you know, we're going to end up, you know, being sued. We have to shut down equipment. We have to go through tons of paperwork, Jim. The driver could be named. We're being named. It's just for something fairly minor, it's horrific.

And I don't know. For something, I don't mean to interrupt you, Jim, but I have to jump in there and say, for something that was 100,000% avoidable, what were we doing? Yeah. And how do we... How do we make that point for the people that are listening, you know, and Jam gives a test on, how do we just make this reach down and grab you in your stomach and make it hurt? It's like the phone use. We've talked about it, talked about it, talked about it. But how do we make it count?

When do you feel that when you start to touch that phone, you're like, oh, my God, that just bothers me. That eight second video bothers me. Yeah. Or I'm going to have to pay attention better than I ever have because in my gut, I feel I don't want to be sued. Simplify it some more, I might hurt that person. It hurts in my stomach. It hurts my heart. When do you take those views on?

How do we get you to visualize that? I mean, where were you at yesterday, Dave, that we were looking at different people and we came back, oh, after getting lunch and we just were cutting through the mall there after grabbing some lunch. And there was just people out, kids out, walking, everything. And Dave happened to say, hey, look at, you know, that person over there or something. I'm like, dude, I can't, man. There's so much going on around me.

I'm going to hit, I'm going to take out a little kid. Right. You know, and he didn't, you know, I, boy, there made it sound like you got to look. It was just like, we're just having conversation, but it's just like, I don't want to hurt somebody. Yeah. I can't. And I was going, what, one mile an hour? Yeah. I mean, Jesus. But that's the focus. Yeah. Right? That's the focus level we need to be at.

And I guess this accident, what's so frustrating for me is it was so avoidable, so completely 100% avoidable. And those are the things that we can't have happen. Yeah. You know, it was a minor accident, but just like Jim said, we're all dealing with it now. And it's bullshit yeah we could have 109 trucks doing it right and if one truck is doing it wrong it's a shit show yes you know the fallout from this accident and what they're asking for.

You know, we don't even know what the guy's claiming for injuries yet. He's just hired a lawyer and the lawyer is just hammering a selection muscle. Like, all right, well, you need to shut the truck down. You need to do this. You need to gather all this information. We're fighting with our attorney. Like, it's just, it's a shit show, you know? And it's, we need full participation and engagement from everyone every day, all the time.

Yeah. I'm sorry, John. I didn't mean to. Yeah. Just, you know, as far as being avoidable, there's a lot of things that the driver could have done to avoid that accident. Number one, just let off the fuel and be more courteous. Right. That was, that would have avoided the whole thing. And number two, hit the brakes, you know, number three, change lanes the way that we taught you to change lanes. So go ahead, Jim. Yeah. Yeah. I was just, I mean, I'm just, I'm visualizing jam.

You, you started off the podcast with saying, you know, how nice it was to meet the guys at the end of the day, the smiles, the, the happiness. The attitude, what good people jam that lasted 15 to what, 30 minutes. Maybe you were out there an hour. Okay. Not, not put a time on it, but let's say you were out there an hour and all that good. But then this is hours upon days, upon hours, upon worry, upon everything.

It could go on for years, Jim. For years, Dave. And that's the reason we end up talking about it because it's such a, like Dave, brother Dave said, truly unavoidable accident. Avoidable. Avoidable. Did I say unavoidable? Avoidable, yeah. But we're going to deal with it for. It's like Sue said, years. Years. Yeah. So it outshadows the hour you had of goodness. And that's what we try to stop. But I still, where do we, how do we punch you

guys hard enough that you pay attention? That you just go, man, I. Before it happens to you. Before it happens. Because we've been in this situation before and it was pretty impactful to me because when we sat down with the driver after the accident, he said, I've heard you guys talk about this, but I truly didn't understand. Mm-hmm. You know, and that's what we're trying to drive home. You need to understand it. You need to listen to what we're talking about and act upon it.

Every move you make, I mean, the minute you pull out of the driveway here in the morning, you're at risk. We're at risk. You know what I mean? We just watched a truck pull out of the driveway here this morning in front of three cars coming down the street that weren't coming in here. Pulled right out. All three cars had to stop. News flash, every car coming down the street doesn't work here at JFW. There's a lot of businesses in our neighborhood and we just drive right out

in front of them. Who does that? Well, apparently some people do. They're probably not listening to this because we've talked about it and talked about it and talked about it. Yeah, the assumption. I know we're trying to talk about the accident, but it's the same thing about the cell phone use. You know, we've more talked about, we seem to have more infractions.

It goes in like waves, you know, and maybe it's because we didn't drill down on it enough, but you guys have almost violated it so much that we feel like giving up.

You know, it's just, it is just painstaking, but I guarantee you, we will not give up. We will not give up. And it's, and just over that stupid phone, put, put them away, you know, but, but I'm back. The good thing was this accident had nothing to do with the phone. No, I don't. The driver wasn't distracted, but wasn't focused either. No. Wasn't, wasn't distracted by the phone. Right. Yeah. Might've been distracted. Wasn't by the phone. Yeah.

Definitely mentally distracted. Yes. Yeah. And we talk about it all the time. All this driver had to do, well, there's lots of things a driver could have done, but the thing is, and I love talking about it because that's how I trained my, my girls to drive is you have to drive for everybody else. You're the professional. Drive for that other car. You guys all do it all day long. We've talked about that for years and years and years. Right,

and you're so good. I know you can drive for everybody else. You know that car wants in there. You know, the whole, yeah, it's just, you got to be the professional out there. Moral of the story, guys, is let's just all be a little bit more courteous and it could save a lot of time and money.

We don't even know what this is going to end up costing so just please be courteous go out of your way to let people in and stuff like that yeah just looking forward jim the the what if just think of the what if you're right i mean yeah this wasn't even a time constraint either no you know what i mean this was the lift on the throttle adjust your drive and keep on trucking yeah right as it is we lost an hour, we got a ticket, we, you know, yeah,

probably two hours right on the side of the road. Yeah. Just think it through. Good Lord. Along with what's coming up with the time we're going to lose, Dave. Right. Right. All right. Uh, J.R. asked if your dash cam has fallen off, please let him, or you could even let myself know about that. Don't let the mechanics know about that. They got a lot of things that me and J.R. Can't fix, but we can fix some two-sided tape. So we're happy to help you out there.

And it's important to ask about the cameras because they've saved us a lot. Oh boy. And it's important to have. Yeah. I put a little note here, just talking about the accident and the fallout and the dash cams. And I had a comment because one of our former employees went to a place where they don't have the inward facing camera. And the comment was like, oh, it's a big load off my shoulders because it's just outward facing. There's a difference between restrictive and protective, right?

Everything that we do, our safety topics, the podcast, the cameras, the rules, the policies, the meetings, they seem restrictive, but really it's protective. It's just to protect you and it's protect the house. The thing is about that comment, though, what are you doing wrong that puts so much pressure on you? Right. What are you afraid of? Using his phone all day long. Right? I mean... I didn't specify whether it was a mile or a feet. The driver.

You know, what is the scary part of that? What is, what are you doing wrong that you feel like it's, it's so restrictive when it is all just protective? That's just a, that's just crazy. Yeah. I often wonder about when people leave here and they go somewhere else and maybe they don't have cameras or it's just forward facing.

Like out of all the people that have left here that have been part of the samsara coaching, like, are they like, just throw it out the window and we're just going to go back to the old ways? Or, you know, do they take what they learn here and are they truly a better driver when they leave? I think there's a, I don't know. No, we've just talked about that so many times, Jam. If you leave here, you learned something and you are a better driver. Are you going to use what you learned now?

Are you going to be like, oh, I don't need to be better anymore? Well, that falls on that person, doesn't it? Absolutely. That's their portrait they're painting. Yeah, I was going to say that to both of you. I think it's the same thing that we deal with here. Is it's a split of people that leave here that'll take it with them or they won't. Agreed. It's the same, you know, people that work here, either they're doing it right or they're not, you know, and it's what you want to do with your life,

what you, how you want to, what's your bar, you know, all of that. Sure. Yeah. All right. Next, leaving the south driveway. I feel like we've talked about this before. So in the morning, when you're driving a big truck out of the south entrance or exit, we'll call it, you want to be on the south side of that road, meaning your driver door should be against a place where the cars park. Yes. Yep. Right.

If you are on the other side and a four-wheel is trying to come in and you're trying to get out, that just makes it a much tighter turn for you. Now, if you're a four-wheeler trying to make a left turn into that entrance, you want to turn with your driver door against the building. Yeah. Right? Even if that means if there's a truck coming out alongside the building, you pull up alongside the building, they'll move to the left to create more room.

Safer, correct? Let's try to get this figured out. Yeah, because when we do sit there and watch the drivers that are listening and do it that way, it's like a musical. It's like a dance and a play. Everything just moves smoothly. Our truck's on the outside. The cars are in the inside. Everybody exchanges and it just goes. But when it doesn't work, we've got a truck, you know, in the middle of the driveway that can't get out. We've got a car parked in the street.

Nobody can pass. It just falls apart. And you're like, this is much simpler if you do it with just trade sides. Now the musical turned into a comedy, huh, Jim? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The things that you guys see sitting in that pickup truck. You guys got anything else for the discussion before we call somebody? No, I know I'm good. Yeah, Jim. All right. We're going to call or attempt to call Mike Cisneros this morning. Awesome. Let's give it a shot here. Does he have a nickname? He does.

See if we can get him to answer. The site. The site. What's up, Flat Tire? There it going, man. Don't call me Flat Tire. Mike, you are being recorded live on the podcast right now. You got Jim, Brother Dave, and Super Dave and myself. Morning, Mike. Howdy, fellas. I know you've been listening to the podcast, so you know what this is all about. But before we get into that, I want to thank you for that barbecue you left us yesterday. That was some good smoky barbecue. Nice.

I'm glad you liked it. And who made that again? Your brother-in-law or your brother or your cousin or who? Who made that, Mike? Who made the barbecue? Who made the barbecue? Nice. What's the name of his business? It's called Ricky Bobby's. And it's funny because his name is Ricky Bobby before the movie. That's awesome. That's an easy one to remember. Right. Ricky Bobby's barbecue. Mike, that's some good stuff. Good smoke flavor. How long you been driving for Mike?

Oh my golly. I got my first CDL back in 1984. I think it was. Okay. And then I stopped driving for Boulder County when I got promoted. So I never renewed it. And then I got it back in here about two years ago. What were you doing for Boulder County when you got promoted? I was a project superintendent for them. But when I first got hired with them, I was a laborer. You know, started as a laborer and just worked my way up and volunteered to

drive this old Mac tandem dump truck. And that's what I did. I called it the home. Huh. How long were you at Boulder County? Wow. Yeah, congratulations. That's awesome. I just learned something about you. And then did you come straight here from there, or did you have some jobs in between?

No, I worked there, and then my dad passed away, and he was a truck driver, and I was just kind of getting all sentimental with him and stuff, and thought, well, heck, you know, I'm going to become an over-the-road truck driver. And so I went and worked for the same company that Bree worked at. In fact, Bree's the one that told me about this job. Oh, cool. CR England. Nice. Very cool. What's your favorite thing about driving, Mike?

Oh, my gosh. Just the scenery, the smell, you know, just a lot of stuff. Driving this nice truck, you know, for a good company. Awesome. What's your least favorite thing? about driving? Well, just going to union and seeing all these bass hats on their phones, texting on I-25. Yeah, that sucks. And what do you like to do on your free time, Mike? Oh, what do I like to do? I do. I go fly fishing a lot.

I cook a lot, you know, the main cook in the house. So. Hanging out with my granddaughter and you know that type of stuff nice now you've given me some wild game before too you gave me a moose a couple times actually and you like to cook a lot of wild game oh yeah you betcha nice okay my favorite is uh cooking elk ah yeah i like that mike what's the number one thing on your unbucket list? What's one thing you would never do again? Oh, let's see. Get divorced.

That's a good one. That is a good one, Mike. Now, would you prevent getting divorced by not getting married or how would you do that? Well, you know, I finally found my soulmate. You know, I've known this gal since I was about 15 and, you know, we were both married and she got divorced and I got divorced and we got together and it's just been great ever since. Great. Good. Okay. I love that. And what's your least favorite thing to smell? That is awesome. Shots fired.

Mike, we need you to bring it in. York street behind freaking plant too man that oh my god that is terrible that is like denver's human big fart you know surrendering plant down there yeah i gotcha it's awful all right mike well thanks for being such a good sport we enjoyed talking to you have a good blessed day out there my friend oh you bet you guys have a good thanks be safe see you mike's mike, Man, three for three were good calls. Yeah. This was a great idea and had.

Yeah, like you said, Jim, good people at the fuel island when you're coming in. Yeah. He was one of the guys that rolled in. Yeah. Always a great attitude. Even when you call him flat tire. All right, let's look at what's next. We are still looking for a night course driver for Saturday. I think we're always going to be looking for somebody to do night course on Saturday. So if you want to try that out or if you want to do it again, let us know.

And then, uh, and also mentions a calendar photo reminder. Don't forget to submit your photos for the 2026 JFW calendar. The deadline is October 17th. When money is selected, you get 250 bucks for a cover shot and a hundred bucks for each month. So this is kind of a big deal, man. We've had some drivers do really well. Right. You know, you know, I know October 17th seems like a long way out, but it's really not.

So it will be here next week. Yep. If you feel like you're in a spot and you got a good photo opportunity, take it, send it in to Ann at JFW trucking.com and you got a shot to win some money. So. Yeah. And for everybody that's listening, we, we look at all the pictures could be the shop can be, you know, the wash bay can be the safety guys, all that different stuff. We look at the photo, not where it came from and not who it is. I mean, we have to look who it is to give out the money.

But we start with the picture. You pick your favorite photo, not your favorite driver. Yeah, of course. Good deal. All right. Be diligent about entering your scale ticket numbers in Toro. Take a second and double check them. There's been a few typos lately. Those darn sixes and eights look the same from far away. So that should have been in the discussion, but I did a really sloppy job on the outline this week. Sorry, guys.

Terrible. Yeah, please, you guys. I mean, I hear about it from everybody upstairs here and it's not, it's just a hassle when they're not going the right places. And that's because of the scale ticket number and stuff. It just, the, we've got it pretty dialed in. And when that, those small mistakes get made, it makes things difficult. So please, please be diligent about that. Check the ticket and stuff, please. Thank you.

Uh, questions from the audience. This question is brought to you by an anonymous driver. Didn't want to be mentioned, not trying to make any waves. Who is it, Jim? I will tell you as soon as the podcast is over. It's a good question because, you know, it's in regards to when we're done dumping, it used to be, we would wait until our trailers were seated in the saddle before we pulled away from the pile. The main reason we would give is we didn't want to shear off the gin pole valve.

When you're pulling away and the trailer has some side-to-side movement, it was easy to shear that valve off. And that was, you know, easy an hour downtime and a $300 or $400 valve, right? Well, we don't run those valves anymore. Those valves, for those of you who don't understand what they did, used to be you didn't have to get out to unlock your trailer. You didn't have to unlock your trailer gate, your tailgate, right? You would just- And drop your bags. Yeah.

You would just come off that valve. It would drop your bags. It would open up your tailgate latches and away you went. We got rid of that, number one, because they were breaking. And also, guys weren't making sure that their tailgate latches were open in the wintertime and we were bending tailgates, stuff like that. Or closed. Or closed. There you go. Driving down the highway with open tailgate. Yep, dropping material.

So now that we don't have those gym pole valves, the driver, you know, I spoke to him about waiting to pull away from the pile before your trail is down. And the question was, well, we don't have gym pole valves anymore. Does that really make sense? My answer was, I didn't think it was good for the cylinder, but we want to hear from the people who own the cylinders and the trailers, what your thoughts are on about it. Yeah, you're spot on, Jim. It's not good on that cylinder. Okay.

So when the trailer is down all the way and being pulled down the road, it's sitting in saddles being pulled, right? Right. So in theory, there's no weight whatsoever on the hoist because the hoist actually stays extended four to six inches when it's sitting in the. In the house, in the dog house. And you just can't see it, right? Cause it's in that round nose. And then if you are pulling out and you're loaded, those joints in that hoist, every stage, they weren't designed to flop side to side.

I mean, the reason we would shear those, those little arms off of the self-inflation valves is because the trailer moves side to side. You hear it. It's going clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, side to side, right? Well, that is not good on those packings inside those cylinders. I know it doesn't have the weight. I mean, you can argue it all you want. Was it designed for that? No. Was it designed to be that way? No. Was it designed for use like that? No. Should we do it? No.

Bottom line. There we go. Right? Let it come all the way down in the saddle. There's no way you can hurt the hoist and off you go. Right? You're going to see people do it everywhere. Our competitors do it all the time. You know, and it's at some point we've seen competitors go down the road with their freaking trailer in the air or their tandem bed in the air, take down lights at intersections and hit the railroad trussle over at Brandon La Pan.

I mean, lots of problems. I mean, it's a safety thing. Why are you in such a big hurry? We're going to travel when the trailer is still 15 feet in the air.

Let it come down, sit in the saddle and go. Sounds like a good procedure. Yep. Yep. Safety first, not safety second. Good box to check. Yep. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. We discussed it last week, Dave, when the question first came up. And like you said, you can go through it all like, okay, we're dumping on concrete. You know, the trailer's coming down. I can pull forward without the trailer, you know, going side to side. What's that going to hurt? Yeah. All that kind of stuff. And my question at

the end of it is, why? Why? The bottom line is why? Just let it come all the way down. Right. And I don't know, I mean, I'm sure if I put this out there, somebody should time it, but how long is it? I mean, how long do you really wait? Is it 30 seconds, 20 seconds? You know, I know it's not no five minutes. The why I believe is to get out of the way. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And I totally understand it,

but it's still, it's still back to the same thing brother Dave said is why put the extra. Yeah. Wear on everything. Yeah. You know, and there still is that what if of, of a tipping over. I mean, there's still, I mean. And honestly, don't you want the material off your mud flaps staying tight in the pile? You're not making snail trails. We just had somebody bring up snail trails at plant 12 a week ago. Yeah. You know, and it's like, that's somebody driving off with the trailer in the air.

Yeah. That's the big thing I brought up, Dave. I really, that was part of my argument is I've never had to wait on my trailer because I got out. I brushed my mud flaps off. Right. I walked around, but I was hit with so many of the plants don't let you out anymore. And I, I was like, well, I don't have an argument for that except for waiting it to come down, pull out of the way and clean your stuff off. Sure.

So sure. That was. I didn't know we weren't allowed out at any of the concrete plants, but I mean, I obviously see mechs. We can't be out in pits. We can't be out. I get that. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's where, if I would, I, that's where I want my material cleaned off at is in front of the pile. Right. Not across the yard. Yep. So I don't know. Anyway, it was interesting, but my, it still fell down to why. Yeah.

Sorry, guys. Good stuff. Yeah. Back in the day, I mean, I used to sweep out right into the grizzly, you know, if there was nobody behind me. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I like to, the, you know, we talked about it several times, the old plant two, or is that plant one?

Plant one. Where you dumped in the Grizzly, if you could time it just right, where nothing ever touched your mud flaps or the back of the trailer, where it just all shot in and loaded, even if you waited just a few minutes, it was like, that's cool, right? You know, I don't have to do shit. No touch rate. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Very cool. Yeah. All right. Safety topic of the week is brought to you by J.R. Sands. He wants to talk about Genesee and Floyd Hill.

The speed limit is 45 miles per hour. that is empty and or loaded we had seven drivers in the past five days that have gone over that up to 60 miles an hour when loaded reminder is one warning and if another speed alert comes up within 30 days they are disqualified from earning their safety bonus i tell you what jam state patrol them catch them catch them over 45 miles an hour up there there is no warning and i i don't remember how much that ticket is now it's hundreds of

dollars and it's not to us no that's that's the driver's ticket and i guess one of the things i want to bring up is sam just went through cdl class he just tested on it day before and that was one point that he missed on the drive test and it was kind of funny because as he's been driving and we've been riding with him he's just been making a point he like. They teach you to verbally talk about what you're seeing while you're driving. Right.

You know, and I think that's such a credit. You know, we were just out screwing around, had nothing to do with, and he just started talking. He's like, oh, I'm approaching a railroad track at the intersection. I'm slowing. Oh, yeah. I'm looking to the left for a train. I'm looking to the right for a train. I'm looking for the height of the railroad tracks in the road because I'm pulling a low boy. to be sure I don't get hung up on the intersection.

There's a sign on the right that says, right lane must turn right at next intersection. You know, and you read the signs. There's a tick over there peeing in the corner. Right? But those are the things you have to be aware of. And you guys know I have talked about this, you know, for 38 years now, right? We talk about this, and I don't know how many times we've talked about it on the podcast, but in this particular situation, you have missed, I believe it's a five by 10.

I always say four by eight, but I do believe it is a five foot by 10 foot yellow, caution, yellow flashing sign that says no trucks loaded or empty because we don't make their, their weight of 26,000 pounds. GBW gross vehicle weight rating. Right. But a lot of people see that Dave and they think they can cheat. Right. Right. Oh, I'm lighter than that. I'm empty. I don't need, that doesn't, uh, you know, cause I'm not bothered by that. It changed about,

I don't know what you guys, 15 years ago. Yeah, Dave. Anyway, 20, you know, Sam was in his test. He was going down the road and they make you change lanes several times, right? They want to be sure you can change lanes safely. And he got, it was his last lane change. Like they made him do it six times and he was in the left lane. He had his right blinker on and he kept looking in the mirror, you know, and then looking ahead, looking in the mirror, looking ahead,

looking in the mirror. And there was a car that was just right on his rear corner and Sam was pretty intent on watching him. And the guy giving the test said, what did that sign say we just passed? Sam was like, I have absolutely no idea. You know, you got me. I'm focused on the guy back there because I'm changing lanes.

But and the the trainer said well that's a point that's a point deduction right you you need to know what that sign says you need to be aware that sign is coming and you need to be aware you need to be over you need to be aware where that car is at and all of that stuff and i just think that's great and we have people that are in the right lane that still aren't obeying the speed limit that have asked us where are those signs again and that's pretty dumbfounding to me that's

that It makes me nervous. It makes me scared. It makes me think, gosh, we need to do better training. And then I think, well, gosh, you need to do better, right? So yeah, it's important, extremely important. Man, awkward silence. Nobody's jumping in there. It's just one. What else is there to say? It's just one of those things again, Dave, where, where we've taught, you know, the, the cell phone use, the accident, you know, this kind of area.

It's just, what is your standard? What are you going to do? You know, are you going to, you're going to obey the law, follow the rules, be safe. And I, and I get it. I mean, it is frustrating when you're empty to go that speed. Yeah. Right. But loaded, there's just no excuse not to go that speed. I mean, I might give you, and we can't, I might give you a little bit if you're empty, but there's nothing loaded. Yeah. I mean, it kind of makes me wonder what those drivers' efficiency score is.

Right. Because there's no way they can be coming down at 55 loaded, not on the brakes. Right. Or not stabbing the brakes or not working our brakes over. And I mean, you can't. You physically can't come down loaded at 55 and not be working your brakes over. And you're truly just every other truck driver. Yeah. You're not trying to be better. I did have a driver call me yesterday, and I talked to JR about this, and the driver was on his list. But his transmission, he couldn't shift lower than...

10th gear in manual, something was going on with that. Okay. So, you know, he called me as it was going on and, you know, he had, you know, potentially an excuse, JR's going to dig into it and see what was going on. You know, maybe it was one of those where their crews can't be on or there's a couple of things JR thought of that I didn't.

So we'll see. But the driver was like, hey man, I know how things are around here and I just need to let you know, like, I can't shift down from 10th gear in manual. I mean, that's great, Jam. He called. Right. Right. Was aware of it. I mean, that's, I'm sure he saw the sign and knows the speed limit. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I mean, I, I applaud that. That's, you know, definitely got to dig into it and find out what was going on. But yeah, that's great.

It wouldn't shift down the next five times either. No, I'm just kidding. You know and and sam was thankful because he had he had read all the signs you know everywhere else and and the guy giving him the test scott he was like i mean i did that on purpose but you need to be aware right you know and sam's like you're right i i have to be you know so i'm i'm thankful for that and so was he that's that's i like they're driving that fact home how important it is Yeah. Right. That's, that's good.

Yes. No, absolutely. Dave. I mean, I think of the accident we're talking about, and if you would have talked to yourself through the accident we just had, right. You wouldn't have had the accident. That was exactly what I was thinking. Was, sorry. Was that Scott's first test administered? It was. Yeah. I think you just want to take a point away.

Power tripping. Well, I think he was a little jonesing because, I mean, I don't know how many points you're allowed but sam was perfect on the maneuvering he was perfect on the pre-trip and then you're allowed to miss 30 on the test drive i don't know how many you get but you're allowed to miss 30 and he missed two so yeah yeah nice i thought that was pretty cool great job sam good stuff uh we have a load for you tomorrow morning right yep,

First ride drivers, and he's here on vacation, Alex. He's got a license. I expect him to be called in. Absolutely. All right.

Let's get into the tips and tricks. Number seven, I Got Your Six, and this is by Armando Sargent de Valt. I got to jump in here. I've been waiting for this. Jump in. Let's go. And don't answer it, Jam. Do you know I Got Your Six, where it originated from? I mean, I know you know what it means, but do you know where it originated from by chance? Well, first you said, don't answer this. That's the meaning of it. Just do you know the history of it? Do you know how it came about?

I mean, I just picture the clock and the sixes behind you. Okay. Where it originated from. Assuming the military. I assume the military. I'm assuming the armed forces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So basically it's the air force. It's the planes in world war one. The thunder chickens. Thunder chickens. It's how you describe, and you know, it was adopted everywhere then, but it's how do you describe in the air where you're at? Position.

So the plane behind you always has your six and the six is six o'clock, bottom of the clock behind you. So I just, I had to look it up because I know it meant your back, right? But I'm like, well, where's that from? So anyway, so yeah. Cool. Yeah. Thanks Armando. I just was like, yeah, I just got to look it up. I love it. Good stuff. Armando says, good morning, JFW family, and welcome back to another week of tips and tricks.

Please remember that the purpose of these tips and tricks are just ways for us to be helpful, better, and safer drivers on the road. Let's be JFW professionals. I love his intro. This guy should write a podcast out loud. Every now and then we come across another JFW truck that is either on the side of the road or is driving while we see something wrong.

One, this is why it's important for you as a driver to keep your company radio on or turned up so that you can either hear when another driver is trying to reach you. I can't tell you how often this happens. I'll be driving and I see one of us pulled over on the shoulder with their hazards on and I'll be calling on the radio and no one is answering. I'll stop and pull over if it's safe, but most of the time if they don't answer back, I'll just drive past them.

So a lot of times it could just be that the driver contacted one of the mechanics and maybe they're on their way to help that driver, so they shut the radio off for peace and quiet. I doubt it. However, you never know that maybe we can help you. I've been helped and I've also helped drivers from avoiding going to the shop by solving the problem. It's also good to keep the CB on as well. Fair play is a great reason to stay on your CB.

Remember that we run Fair Play on Channel 19 so that everybody will communicate with each other. A lot of times, especially now that the summer is around the corner, there's going to be a lot of four-wheelers and campers traveling on 285s. We've got to stay focused on the road and watch each other's back when those four-wheelers are passing us.

Let drivers know that a car is about to pass someone because sometimes they'll try to pass you when coming up on a blind curve, a hill on a solid line, which is a no-passing zone. Now, when we're driving and another JFW truck passes by. Do you just wave or say hi, or do you look at the truck real quick and make sure there's nothing wrong? I love that. I always look real quick and make sure they don't have a flat. They're not dragging anything. Their top is either closed or open all the way.

Their lights are on or working properly, not flickering, or their dog ears are closed. One thing I really appreciate is when another driver catches something I missed. Last week, Casey helped me twice while I was at yard 23 dumping ice kicker. Right away, he pointed out that my def cap was out, and the second was telling me to watch my passenger mirror because I was getting too close to the barriers. He looked out for me, and I really appreciate it. Thank you, Casey.

So I just want to let everyone know that I'll always have your six. Also, please don't take it the wrong way whenever somebody points something out for you. Everybody makes little mistakes, and we're all here to help each other out. Even the safety leaders every morning are looking out for you. So let's be better at a pre-trip. Let's catch our own faults and help others who miss theirs. Let's work together. Please let me know on Connect Team what you think about this week's tips and tricks.

And thank you all again for listening, and let's start doing things the JFWA. Until next week, Armando the Sergeant Del Valle, 0073.

Three together we can be better awesome yeah good stuff armando yeah super david absolutely is and armando i guess that's the and you know jam just complimented you on on how well written it is but you you're a guy that can see the picture the big picture but you just wrote it down in words you know is you know there's so many times to drive by somebody and you're just like oh that's a JFW truck, but you know, is a tarp out, is it in, are the dogs up or the dogs down or the

landing legs dragging the ground? Does it have a low trailer tire? Whatever. There's so much that we can help somebody with, or you can help somebody with that saves time, energy, safety, whatever.

And I get it too, you know, the, and everybody mentions that whenever they do something like that or try to suggest somebody is how hard it is a lot of time to take the suggestion from somebody, you know, And I can imagine Casey going, hey, watch that, the mirror, you're getting close to your battery box. It's tough not to go, no, I'm watching. I got it. You know what I mean? Take offense. No, I can do this. I'm not that close. I got plenty of room.

And I get that into, to step outside yourself and take that. Cause it's going to sound like criticism, you know, and it's just not, it's just that one helpful, helpful hint. And, you know, me and Dave go over stuff all the time with everybody. You know, you get, you guys don't even realize how much we go over the stuff with the safety guys. And, and I'm sure they get tired of, well, I knew that I knew that. Well, of course I'm going to do that.

You know, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. And, you know, all of you do a great job, all the safety guys do a great job of taking our critique or not going, no shit, Sherlock, or, you know, something like that. But if we don't have everybody's back and as busy as we are, we're going to miss something. And we need to hold all of ourselves accountable. You know, checking the oil, looking for that flat tire, you know, simple as just washing the windshields off.

You know what I mean? that can be, it can be that simple. And, you know, some of our equipment, our snow removal equipment, it's old, it needs some maintenance, you know, but it doesn't run year round. There's no, there's no need to have a brand new piece of equipment. And we're, we're about to, you know, I think the, the hole we dug over there and filled back up is the most work we're going to put it through, but there's a lot of work coming up for our equipment over there at the building.

And we We just need to continue to work together. And Armando, I appreciate this tips and tricks because it is truly the big picture. You know, if you guys, you know, after this, if you guys take a chance and not take a chance, but take a little time, replay his tips and tricks that Jam just read you and listen to the pointers in there. You know, the company radio, the CB, being up at Fairplay. Great, great job, Armando. Because it, and it strikes me of just, There wasn't one thing that, that.

Wasn't necessary in that. Absolutely, Jim. I just had a point in case Casey just saved my ass a couple of weeks ago when we were back filling the foundation. And I know you know exactly what I'm talking about, but on the South wall, how that chunk of concrete was sticking out. And there was, as we got to the top, there was a piece of rebar. I took the loader bucket and pushed the rebar over. Then we put a bucket of dirt over it and then we can't get the roller that close

to it. So I was wheel rolling it and Casey cruised right up. He's like, Dave, don't forget about that piece of rebar. And like, I was literally about to back up into it. And I was like, son of a bitch, Casey, you just saved my, I would have driven over it. I would have blown a tire out. We would have had to buy a new tire for, it was either the loader or the compactor.

I actually don't remember which, but we were at that height, you know, and we just, and I was like, thank you, Casey, man. Thank you. I would have, it would have killed me to have to call and have the tire fixed. Right. I mean, we would be down, you know. And what was funny about that, Dave, is Casey told me about that, just mentioned about that, but we were low enough. It was sticking out. I went over and lifted with the bucket, all the rebar straight up, pointed it up. Yeah.

And then it wasn't a problem. But when we got too tall, then it was poke, it would went right through your tire. Yes. That was where I was at, Jim. Exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, that's just something that. And then I can't remember what it was. Scooby just did the same thing for me over there on something else. And I was like, oh my God, thank you. So you know what I mean? You're like, man, you saved us. Yeah.

Right. Like you saved us. I mean, who has the time to, you know, like you're saying, Dave, we blow out one of the tires or run a rebar through and those tires, you probably ruin them. Yeah. You know, and there, I mean, we just bought what cheap ones. I'm going to call them cheap. Yeah. And they were $1,800 a tire or something like that.

I mean, just everything is expensive. No matter, no matter if you call it cheap or not, you know, and, and your downtime and Armando said it too, there might be something we can help you with just to get you here. You know, that's, it's just, it was good. It's good stuff. You know, have to help each other, have to have each other's backs. Yep. Enrique emulated that with 0029. I know we just gave him a shout out for it, but that's exactly what we're talking about.

You're post-tripping your truck and you're finding something on your neighbor's truck. Absolutely. Good stuff. Yeah, because would, yeah. I mean, that saved that other driver a headache in the morning. Yeah. How much time? How much time? How many side eyes from brother Dave would he got? Would have had to smell his cheap cologne right, gonna have to bring some of that and spray it on mike when i'm falling into the shop same cologne marty would wear every day.

Soup one in us with that high road home okie dokie i forget dave you and i were talking about this last week i think and so it made me think about it because it's something that everybody should be aware of as they're going through each day, trying to be their very best each day, right? So this is just a short list, 10 ways to succeed with zero talent. You don't need to be the smartest or the most talented person to achieve success in life.

Often it's the seemingly simple things that can make a significant difference. These 10 things are things that anyone can do that they don't cost money and they don't require talent. All they do is require your effort. Number one, be on time. Honor others by respecting their time. Earning respect starts by giving it, right? Number two, show up and do the work. We talk about that all the time. Do your job.

You know, if they praise you, show up and do the work. If they criticize you, show up and do the work. If no one even notices you, just show up and do the work. Just keep showing up, doing the work and leading the way, like lead by example. Number three, give your best in all that you do. It doesn't matter what everyone else is or isn't doing. Focus on your contribution every day. When you give your best, you'll inspire others to give their best too.

Be positively contagious. Your attitude is contagious. Choose to be the vitamin C today. Look for opportunities to encourage and uplift those around you. And I have to throw in your positive energy is contagious, but so is your negative energy. And if you, you, your energy can bring others down around you. So be aware of that. And nobody wants to have that, that low energy level and that negative attitude. Work hard to bring it back up by your own positive energy.

Number five, have an attitude of gratitude. Every day we have a choice. We can choose to be grateful and we can see good in all that we have, or we can't anger, fear, doubt, and let insecurities rob us of our joy and the life that we're meant to live. The choice is yours today. And next, seek solutions versus dwelling on problems. This is something that everybody, it's a trap that everybody falls into.

How you see the world determines the world you see when you see when you seek solutions you see a world of possibilities and are able to overcome those challenges and problems number seven have passion passion fuels your purpose the strongest may survive but it is the passionate that will thrive get excited today. And be coachable. This is exactly what Armando was talking about.

Stay humble and hungry and be a lifelong learner. When somebody is telling you, hey, you've got a taillight out, don't say, hey, bud, drive your own truck. Say, oh, thank you very much. I must have not seen it or it just went out. And be appreciative there, right? But stay coachable. The best of the best are always striving to get better, and so should you. Do more than what's required. Average effort generates average results.

If you want more, do more. Even a little extra each day can create big results over time. And last number 10, believe in yourself. Stop listening to the self-sabotaging voices in your mind. Talk to yourself and feed the positive instead of listening to the negative.

You matter you are capable you can do great things and you are here for a reason what would you add to this list anything it's i mean an infinite answer you know just continue to keep adding to it that's right you know so many people and you can read so many motivational pieces on this the talented aren't the best it's the people that try the hardest oh absolutely you know they they're the most successful. They are the richest. They are, you know, the most acknowledged in their field.

And it's not because, yeah, non-quitters. Absolutely. They care. Yep. They do things from their heart. Right, Jim? On the quote this week, do the difficult things while they are easy and do the great things while they are small. I love this part. A journey of a thousand miles must to begin with a single step. And that was spoken by Lao Tzu. And he is a legendary Chinese philosopher who was born in 15 or sorry, 571 BC. Wow. That was a minute ago. That was a minute ago. My boy Lao.

So many. And I, you know, I have to search for these quotes whenever I, you know, try to find something. And so many of these people were on it like a thousand years ago or 2,000 years ago, and they got it, right? They got it. Right? That's what blows me away, Dave, is you hear these quotes, and it's like, well, that's the same problem today, and you were 500 BC. Right. Like, you guys joke, that's a minute ago. Same damn problem. Yep. You know? Yeah. Yeah, incredible. Donald, that's everyone.

I've got a final thoughts on decision-making and I, I, I'm just going to kind of read it here. You know, we, we've kind of talked a lot about decision-making in the podcast about the accident we've had and, you know, stuff like that. And every day, every minute, every second we're making decisions, right? So to improve your decision-making practice or yeah, your decision-making practice, a structured approach, gather information, consider various options and evaluate consequences.

That's what we talk about. Evaluate the consequences. You know, I mean, that's, that's a big deal. So reflect on your decisions, learn from mistakes and seek feedback to refine your process. Like ask a coworker, what would have you done in this position? Or we do that a lot of times with the camera film we have showing someone else's incident or whatnot.

So a more detailed breakdown, develop a structured approach and define your goals before making any decision, clarify objectives and what you want to achieve. Gather the information, research and collect relevant data and make informed choices. And this is all driving based, I guess is, you know, how you, some people can hear what I'm saying and think, oh, they're talking about, you know, getting a car loan or whatever. No, these are all driving based decisions that we make.

You know, I just saw a podcast from pretty sure it was Oakley trucking and they're interviewing a driver. And he said, driving in traffic is exhausting because he said, you're making an average of 80 decisions a second. You're seeing 80 things happen around you a second. When he, when he gave me that number, I was like, no way. And then when you really study it, you know, I'm, I'm sitting here in the podcast studio and I'm, I'm seeing things happen, right?

When you're on the road going 50 miles an hour or traffic 30 miles an hour, right? I mean, you're, you're, what you're seeing, what your mind is taking in all you're making decisions, whether you know it or not, you're making decisions. So you need to gather that information and then identify alternatives, right? If you're coming up and someone needs over and you can slow up for them and let them in or whatever the case may be, safely change lanes if there's no other option.

We're not a proponent of changing lanes all the time. We like you to get in that lane and stay there. I mean, that's the safest option. Every time you change lanes, it's a possible accident. So identify those alternatives and then evaluate the consequences.

That's exactly what we talked about at the beginning of the podcast. think about the potential outcomes of each choice both short-term or long-term so and then the part two practice and refine make small decisions quickly start with simple choices and gradually progress to more complex ones reflect on past decisions analyze what went well and what could have been improved seek feedback very similar to the other one where you know identify alternatives and gather information.

Then learn from your mistakes. Acknowledge errors and use them as opportunities to learn and grow. Part three, key elements to consider. I love this one, boy. Emotions. We have a video right now here from this morning where someone let their emotions get the best of them and they made a really poor decision. Instant karma. Right, Jam? Right? Yeah. So you need to manage your feelings. And I think more in driving, I guess I got to relate that to getting mad.

Right? You know what I mean? I think that's the number one emotion we have to fight with. And it's so easy to just get upset. And really, it's out of your control.

You know and i i've been there man i've been behind the wheel you know just on the drive home like are you freaking kidding me and yet you have to check those emotions so so be aware you know and and part of your emotions the first thing you should look at is your intuition trust your gut feelings but balance them with logic and facts then the values align your decisions with your core principles and beliefs and then

build self-confidence trust in your ability to make good choices and take actions. I think sometimes that's where if your emotions get in the way, you didn't make the best decision. So, you know, your self-confidence, you know, for some people can go in the tank and other people, they're not affected by it whatsoever, right? So, and then the last part is part four, visualize. Imagine the potential outcome of each decision. Set deadlines.

Avoid analysis paralysis by establishing a timeline for decision-making. I don't think behind the wheel, we have that option. We don't have, we don't have the ability. You know, I guess that's not true. I was, I was going to say, we don't have the ability to set a timeframe. Well, I mean, you can see something happening a long ways ahead of you, seconds, 10 seconds ahead of you. You need to react now. You've set that boundary. I need to react now,

even though that's 10 seconds away. So I guess that is true. Limit choices, narrow down your options and reduce them so you're not overwhelmed. Then I love this part. We talk about this a lot. Take care of yourself. Ensure you're well-rested, hydrated, have a healthy mindset. And the last one here, we've talked about this again. Seek professional help. If you're struggling with decision-making, consider seeking guidance from a therapist or a counselor. Or we talk about asking us.

We're not therapists or counselors, but we can look at a situation. We can pull it right up on the camera of what happened and assess the decision you made and help you like, hey, this was great. hey, you couldn't have done anything else, right? And move on, good job, you know? Or, hey, everything worked out, but maybe next time think of this. And I just loved all of those decision-making facts.

I thought it was a great piece of paper to read. It's not my final thoughts, but it is my final thoughts. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, listening to there, Dave, when you said, I guess we can do that, is, you know, making a decision or putting a, putting a time on your decision. It's like driving and you know, you need to get off on Federal or Pecos or whatever it means, you know, 104th, whatever it means. You know, most of us probably run quite a ways before we have to get over.

Right. You know, and I got a timeline on this. I could just get over now. Right. And is it going to hold me up a long time? Right. You know, or, you know, I just, I really was thinking about that whole thing is, you know, been a few times that you, you know, you might gotten five in front of five cars, 10 cars, you got off and you got to the light, but you're ahead of those 10 cars and you make the light.

So that saved you two or three minutes, you know, but, but did you, did you push that, that lane change? You know, did you push something, you know, it's all, and it, it's tough to put a time on that. You know, I'm, I'm losing, you know, five minutes, 10 minutes here. Did I lose a half an hour for the day or did I really gain that much? Right. You know, for the chances I took. But did I do it safely? Yeah. And I don't have to have any regrets. Right. Yeah. Chances I took,

that's. Did I let my emotions get the best of me? Still learning. And I, I flipped somebody the bird or whatever the case may be. You know what I mean? Yeah. Honked the horn at them. Yeah. Still, still working on it. Funny if you think about it. Okay. Everybody's trying to save time. Yeah. I mean, everybody, right? Efficiency, right? Right. But weigh that time against how much time you've wasted.

You know, you've, you know, sat there playing on your phone or you've just, you know, sat and watched the sunrise for 15 minutes. I'm not saying that's wasted time, but it's, if you just take that time and put it against the one or two minutes you saved trying to haul ass in traffic or whatever. You've wasted more time than you're saving. I bet you every day. Yeah. Would you choose time or peace? Is your peace more valuable than the time you're saving?

Yes. I believe yes. I think the time I'm saving doing it right gives me peace. There you go. That's a double, that's a buy one, get one there. Yep. Bogo. Yep. Bogo. Yeah. I mean, mine's a kind of along that, but we all end up being intertwined here. the quote I ran across is, the two most powerful warriors are patience and time. Wow. Wow. That all ties to the high road hauling and what I just talked about. And yeah. Right. And the three C's of life, you guys, choices, chances, and changes.

So you must make Make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change. And, and I just want to, you know, listening to our safety part of that, you know, your choice and your chances, you could have some really bad changes. Yeah. But you could take a chance and make the choice to make a good change. Exactly, Dave. You could, you know, I didn't know how these, you know, your choices, your changes of chances would intertwine with our podcast, Dave's.

You know, because like you said, the no talent stuff, Dave, there's so much in the world that takes zero. No talent. Zero talent. But you look like a hero just for showing up every day. You're appreciated. You're, you're, you're counted on your, you know, all of that. You're reliable. Those are things that most people will never achieve and it takes zero talent, you know, and, and what a, what a, what a, what a life to, to lead, you know?

And then, uh, my last thing, I'm just going to throw it out there. And, uh, I had a friend recommend it to me, but I just listened to a podcast, two hour podcast, a little less if you take the commercials out of it. It's on Tucker Carlson's show, but it's Casey and Callie Means, and they're a brother and sister.

Casey is the girl, Callie is the boy, but Casey is a doctor and she's written a book and he's a financial analyst and she's a doctor and they both wrote a book together called Good Energy. But if you guys want just some different information about big pharma, how to take care of yourself, you know, the things, the things our country does with pesticides and different things like that.

It's just a good, it's just a different view, nothing to do with trucking, nothing to do with anything we talk about. Doesn't make you safer. A lot of life. A lot of life. It's a lot of life, you know, and I think, you know, processed foods, you know, I think in the, what it means a lot for me is, is how I take care of myself, how I've, how I've raised my girls, how I would, how I would talk to anybody, you know, jam and, and we all have.

What we eat conversations, I guess, our, our, our health, you know, and we do that here and it's a really good podcast to educate yourself on. And I throw it out there if you guys, you know, and I, and I can also, if you text me or email me, I can, I can send you the link so you don't have to hook, look it up, but yeah, Casey and Callie means they pop right up and it's the Tucker Carlson show. I'm sure Jam can just add the link to the podcast. Yeah.

If you guys think it's worth it, we can throw it out there, but it has nothing to do with trucking. That's all just. I mean, that's okay. We're all living here. And you said it has nothing to do with trucking or safety, but it will make you a safer eater. And that's important. It will. And maybe your young children and just the facts. And I don't even have to check their facts because I see their facts every day.

You know, as you listen to the podcast, I won't go into it, but you literally see how America's changed. Yep. Jim recommended it to me. I did listen to all, but maybe 30 minutes of it. It went out on August 16th, but I will post the link for sure. Yeah. Thanks, Jim. No problem.

My final thoughts. I'm just going to play a little real from the real AF podcast. Are you guys familiar with that one? No, no. You're going to be. It's about execution, not killing people, but executing things in your life.

I don't know. People. it could either be motivated to or maybe it's too aggressive I don't know but let's give a little listen, matter if you're upset it doesn't matter if you're frustrated if your discipline is on point your mental toughness on point you're going to be able to execute in spite of the situation being that way and you're going to move forward whether you feel good or not and once you can move forward whether you feel good or not nobody can fuck with you okay

because everybody else quits when things get hard everybody else quits when they get sick or they have an excuse or they get in a funk or they get, you know, whatever. If you're able to operate, even when things are hard, you can't be fucked with. It doesn't matter if you're stressed. It doesn't matter. I forgot about the language, but that was pretty motivating. I knew about that podcast. I just didn't know that was what it was called, Jim.

I mean, I see clips to him all the time. I love him. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. You got to move forward, Jim. Yeah. Doesn't matter. And there's so many people. I just, I just love stuff like that. I can't remember half of this stuff to put it in, in a good context. That's where I get, I wish I had a better talent at it, but we talk about, you know, digging that hole and stop digging and, you know, getting up when

you got hit and, you know, moving forward and. But this is the, that's the grind. Right. You grind every day. You get up every day. You go to work every day. You, you continue to move forward. You're, you're, you're, you're a tooth in the gear, in the cog of life. No matter what's going on, the world continues to rotate. Yes. You know, the sun is going to rise again and you're either going to wake up and execute or you're going to be left behind.

You know, just being on the leadership team here at JFW, I mean, don't get it wrong. We're humans and we care about people and we have feelings and there's reasons where sometimes you're going to get shut down, but eventually you got to get back up and keep grinding. Yeah. That's the, and I just love, I'm circling back to it more and more. And I think about it more and more is the, the no talent where you don't have to have a talent, but it's still, you're, you're still a hero.

You still do it. And cause you know, I would love to be able to sing. I mean, I think, or play an instrument. I think that is amazing. I can't carry a tune. I just zero, you know, you see people dance. I'm like, I'd love to dance. I mean, I just think that's cool as shit, but I can't. but that that's a talent, you know, but I can show up on time every day. You know, I can be reliable. I can be counted on, you know, and, and so much of that, the simplest things people can't do.

They just can't do it. I think that's a talent, Jim. Right. Right. Dave, I guess that's what I'm leading to.

I mean, I was almost going to look up the definition of talent because maybe it's not maybe it's a motivation or determination i'm not sure but not everybody can do that yeah you know i get where you're going with that that it's a talent dave i think after you've done it for so long it's a reflex no of course for the person it is but other people look at that and go oh that's a talent because they can't do it yeah you know

and and i i yeah i just want to emphasize what jim's saying and not to take anything away from you dave that. No, you set your alarm and you get your ass out of bed and you come to work. I look at it more. Yeah, that takes, I didn't need training. I didn't need, you know what I mean? Anything special. I didn't need it. Well, I guess the tools I needed, I needed to set an alarm, right? You need discipline. Okay. That's what it is. Sure. To me, it's discipline over talent.

I mean, I'm not talking about, you know, you could have a professional ball player that's got more talent than discipline and he's making it on a talent. I feel like most people have the discipline to go along with it. They need like babysitters because they can't get out of bed or show up on time. Yeah. You guys see, and that's just a different facet to it. I mean, I, you know, I've been, you know, in different conversations like,

well, oh, you can drive. You're a, you're a good driver or running a piece of equipment or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, but it's taken me years to do that. I didn't do that the first two years. I didn't do that the first five years. I probably didn't do that the first 20 years. You do something long enough and God, I hope you pick up some kind of talent. 10,000 hours. Yeah. 10,000 hours. Right. You know, and, and, and I just watched a deal.

Who's the quarterback that just retired for a, won all the Super Bowls. Brady. Brady. And they're interviewing him and it's a fairly recent interview and they ask him, you know, what, what made you so successful? And he goes, you know, the more I've looked at it, back on it, he goes, I was freakishly competitive, I think. So he said, during like practices, I didn't wait till Sunday to turn it on. Every practice I wanted to win, I wanted it to be better.

I wanted a percentage of what I was doing to be better. So he said, if it was 1%, 2%, 8%, he goes, at the end, who won? I did. Because I got better. Right. And he goes, I just think it's really a freakish competitiveness. I had to be better, you know, and you, and you look at that and if you drive yourself, whatever, seven days a week.

You're going to be better, you know? And, and I suppose maybe I could learn to, to sing at some point, but I'm certainly not going to be that person that just has that natural talent. But, but I bet, absolutely Dave. I mean, I remember, I can't even, I wish I could remember the, you know, years ago when the girls were little, we brought, we bought, what is it called? Rock band or something like that. And you sing and you watch the notes and stuff like that. and we bought it and

we all did it as a family, I couldn't win. I could never hold a note. And man, I, like a Sunday, that's all I did all day long. I was going to, I'm determined. I'm going to get better. I'm going to, I got worse. And the girls were making fun of me. Holly was laughing. They were all tired of listening to me for one thing, but I was like, well, that's just, that's just not my talent. But Super Dave, I do know if I ever got an audition to sing, I would show up on time. Yeah.

I've been waiting for that invitation I'll be on time.

I'm not going to put through to the next level but I will be there on time because that takes no talent yeah singing well you brought it up I'm just blown away by the talent at Red Rocks Church the worship team over there it just blows me away week after week after week how good they are and they make it look so easy it's like yeah I wish I had that too yeah I I mean just jump back a little bit and you I'm sure you heard that part of it unless it's at the very end but the the Casey and

Callie Means Tucker Carlson he finally brings up how well spoken those two people are and it's a compliment to him he goes I don't get that on my show that often he goes you you guys are sharp and listening to him jam I'm just like. Wow, what a talent to, to convey your message in, in that format. Cause you, they could get somebody to listen to him just cause they're like, wow, you're intelligent. You know, he didn't ask one questions where they went, oh, okay.

Maybe they had the word, they had the thought and the whole bit and something else I appreciated. And I think I mentioned it to you and I I'll have to listen to other, you know, podcasts from Tucker, but even on our show. And I think me, we, us four tried to do a really good job of it, but they never interrupted each other. Not one time did they speak over each other. We say sorry a lot here.

We, we, we do. And my, my whole thing is I'm so into it that if I don't say something, I forget my thought because I'm like, oh shit, that was a good one. Dave just said her. That's a good one. Super Dave said her. Oh jam. That's you're right. I do think too, you need the interaction. Otherwise we'd have such a lag in between waiting for one person to finish... It's not like we interrupt each other. I mean, I know we do, but yeah, you need to inter, you need to camaraderie.

You need to. I just know what I have to say is more important than what you just said. But see, that's where they, they had lag days, but they picked up right on everybody's thoughts. Gotcha. But I think, but they're hyper-focused on the subject. You know, it's funny because you brought it up that they don't speak over each other. The other day you were saying that, and I had picked up on that on my own because all of a sudden you did hear them.

You know you were like until the very end there's none of that and I don't know if they knew the show was ending and they were trying to get it in but I also noticed like oh wow you could just kind of hear them and it wasn't rude like they, it was interesting good podcast for sure yeah yeah, alright everybody you all good?

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