Episode 155 - Facing Adversity: Safety, Mindset, and Overcoming Challenges

Music. What's up jfw family welcome back to the channel 23 podcast the purpose of this podcast is to reach out and touch the fleet to engage and inform everyone with all things jfw, super dave you wanted to name this podcast something earlier do you want to name it.

I don't think that would be appropriate jim not even right you don't want to use the acronym them no you you can super dave said we should call this one fafo i don't know what that means, sounds like a good thing to move on from welcome back jim white brother dave white and super dave hi everybody good morning everybody morning guys top of the day super excited about this podcast we got some good energy in the room that being said let's go ahead

and kick off with the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, unuttered God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Father God, we thank you for the opportunity to go out and do some trekking today. We pray for the safety of our fleet, all of their families, and all the other families and individuals we come across on the road today.

We pray for patience and to make good, safe decisions. We pray to be accident-free and that we all make it back to the comforts of our homes this evening. We pray for healing and 100% recovery for all of our family members that are ill. No matter what, we trust you, God, and it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. As a reminder, anything you hear on today's podcast is not the opinion of JFWs. They don't pay us to say this stuff.

I think we're going to have some opinions today, It is just our expressed opinion mixed with facts, some checked, some not. There's going to be some checked ones today that we need to discuss. Absolutely. Episode 154, the Jules Gray episode, had 257 downloads, 83,000 total downloads, and we're at 645 followers. Nice. Awesome. That's awesome. Do you guys know what you get when somebody goes number one in a haunted house? I don't know. It has something to do with number two. I just know that.

Scared. Pee-less. I don't know. Creepy pee-pee. What about when they do a number two in there, in a haunted house? Scooby-doo. Poopy poopy. Close. Spooky dookie. Spooky dookie. All right. It's time for the dad joke challenge. Come on. Oh, man. Well, I kind of have one like that. Did you guys hear that the man who invented Tupperware passed away? But they've postponed his funeral? They can't find a lid that fits his coffin? Oh, damn.

Man. You know, that's a good joke, but the punchline doesn't fit. Oh, and then the last part of that is, do you know what Tupperware and a walrus have in common? I do not know that. They both love a good seal. Damn, did you Google Tupperware jokes or what? I'm telling you. Yeah. What's that time of season? I jumped in with some hunting jokes. Yay. You may like these, but probably not. This one is tagged weight limit. Two deer hunters hire a pilot to take them way back into the woods.

After the hunt, the pilot returns and sees that they shot six deer. The plane won't carry six deer. You'll have to leave two of them, says the pilot, trying to be friendly. Unwilling to leave the spoils, the hunters reply, we got six deer on the plane last year. The pilot gives in, and just five minutes after takeoff, the plane crashes into the forest. Lucky to be alive, one of the hunters says, any idea where we are?

The second hunter replies, yeah, about where our plane went down last year. This one's mystery meat. That's great. A man is grilling some venison when his kids ask him, dad, what kind of meat is this? He replies, I'll give you a hint. It's what mommy calls me sometimes. The daughter screams, don't eat it. It's an asshole. That's good. Oh, dear. And then my last one. Two hunters went deer hunting every winter without success.

Finally, they came up with a foolproof plan. They got a very authentic female deer costume and learned the mating call of the female deer. The plan was to hide in the costume, lure the buck in, then come out of the costume and shoot the buck. They set themselves up on the edge of a clearing, donned in their costume, and began to give the dear love call. Before long, their call was answered by a huge buck that came crashing out of the forest into the clearing.

When the buck was close enough, the guy in the front said, Okay, let's get out and get him. After a moment that seemed like an eternity, the guy in the back shouted, The zipper is stuck. What are we going to do? The guy in the front says, well, I'm going to start nibbling on some grass, but you better brace yourself.

Good stuff. That's it for my deer jokes. You're up, soup. Well, I'm going to shift gears on everybody. This is about drunk guy in a bar. Okay. So this guy is sitting in the local neighborhood bar and he's really drunk and it's close to 2 a.m. Now this prostitute walks in and she sees him at the end of the bar. He can barely sit on the bar stool. He's so trashed. So she figures he will be a good last customer for the night. Easy pickings. And so she walks up to him.

She looks him in the eye and says, Mr. I'll do anything you want for 20 bucks. Anything at all, she says. So just put 20 bucks in my hand and it'll happen. anything you want. The whole time this is happening, the bartender is watching and listening to the exchange. He knows the prostitute and the drunk guy. So the drunk guy looks over at her, almost falls off his barstool, reaches in his pocket and pulls out a rumpled up $20 bill and hands it to her. Then he says, paint my house.

And he passes out. The next three days she spent.

Anyway that's the joke the next three days she spends the next three days painting his house, that's funny good stuff all right new employees Richard Pheasant welcome Richard yeah welcome aboard Richard, celebrations anniversaries we got Gilbert Benny hit four years this past Sunday Ghost. Go Gilbert. Getting it done. Mikey Peterson hits 18 years today. Mikey, good job, buddy. Congratulations, Mike. That's awesome. And then Andrew Gutierrez, he hits two years this Saturday coming up.

Congratulations, Andrew. Yeah. Seems like he just got here. Yeah. Birthdays, Shane Fredrickson had a birthday this past Monday. And then family birthday celebrations, we got Liam Portillo has a birthday this Saturday. Nice. Happy birthday, Liam. That would be Sergio's son, for those that you don't know. All right.

Shout-outs. I want to give a shout-out to Jose Tiscarino for stopping to stand with the driver who was in an accident yesterday. The driver stated he was starting to freak out, but Jose was able to calm him down. I just thought it was really cool when I pulled up to that scene, and there was a JFW truck going southbound, the opposite direction, pulled over in the median, standing there with our driver just to be supportive. So that is outstanding.

Thank you. Thank you, Jose. Show some good character. Yeah. That changes the look of a truck driver and, and, and the public and trying to be outstanding. You know, that's, that's good stuff. Shout out to Scooby and Casey for the work they did up at Young's Ranch. More on this to follow. So we'll get into that in more detail, but those guys busted it late nights and early mornings to get that done.

Nice. I want to give a shout out to Andrew Nonis and JR to helping out with a fuel spill the other day. Off and Kane filled us up a little too much and then left. And then, you know, I was just- Left the mess, Jim? Yeah, I think he talked to Scooby. I think it was, like, agreed upon that he was going to leave. But then I was just starting to throw some road base down, and here comes Andrew Nones with his shovel. Oh, wow. Which was really cool, yeah. You know, Jack Oquendo Mejia,

he just watched me the whole time. And then we had Andrew Nones come with a shovel. So I thought that was pretty cool. And then, of course, JR sees what's going on. You know, JR, he's grabbing a bill, you know what I mean? That's awesome. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, it's more gratifying when you don't ask, but somebody just recognizes what needs to be done. That's the thing about it, you know? Yeah, I don't know if Offen was pumping too fast or what, because he was able to stop.

And Scooby actually got the pressure washer out and rinsed the tank off so it didn't dry on the tank. A stain. And then the fuel driver ended up pumping the very last bit of what he had into the tank. So, wow. So did it spray out the top? Yeah. Oh, wow. He must have been wound up. It was like 10 gallons short. He would, you know, we needed room for like 10 more gallons. Wow. Wow. I am shocked at that because that's. So he, yeah, actually he waited, we filled a few of our trucks and then.

Oh, and then he got it. That made no room. Gotcha. Gotcha. It was pretty fast to move 120 gallons out of there. 60 in each truck. That doesn't take long at all. James Koger, I got an email from James Koger and he says, I got two things. First thing is, I want to give a shout out to you guys for being a safe and badass company. I listen to your guys' podcasts and I've kind of took some traits from you guys and put them to myself. It's a lot easier being safe than it is to be wrong. Heard that.

I've heard a lot about truck accidents and all that lately and being given the evil eye numerous times. And second thing is I haven't got to look for it yet, but there's another trucking company out of Idaho that has a podcast and I looked it up. It's called Stokes Trucking. And I listened to about 10 minutes of episode one and I listened to about 10 minutes of their last episode. And yeah, I mean, the only way to really say this is our podcast is better.

Well, and I think the words are there that company had a podcast. The last podcast was 2022. Right. So it's pretty dry. But, you know, not everybody's got dad jokes. I mean, how can you not have a prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, and a dad joke and not have a rock-in podcast? And some expressed opinions. Right. Sometimes I think about changing the format, but why would we want to get rid of any of those things?

And lastly, tell Scooby to quit working so hard. He's getting too old fast, too fast. Much respect to you guys, and have a great rest of the year. That's awesome. Yeah, thanks, James. That's good stuff. You know what I take from that is we are helping another person. Yeah. You know what I mean? And James, shout out to you for listening. But more importantly, you know, helping us have a better presence as a trucking company out on the road.

And, you know, if you've learned something from it, great. I mean, I learned something from these podcasts.

You know, we always touch upon something that we could be doing better or whatnot. And, you know, by listening to this, instead of just standing there and look at the ax, he's standing up and picking it up and knocking some trees down. Yeah. Chopping wood with us. Yep. He's helping us. So that's awesome. Yep.

Yeah. Like, you know, we're going to talk about it later here, but like Jam mentioned on social media, there was some comments about that, you know, the accident yesterday that were 90% of the accidents that happened there, you know, or 90% of the accidents. And we all know that's not true. Yeah. And if you listen to the podcast, what all we do to try to prevent those situations and yet they're still happening. Right. You know, and what, what about the companies that don't make any effort?

How, what, what do they look like? Right. You know. I was thinking that same thing, Jim, you can't knock us for lack of effort. No, Dave, no. We, we really try and we're, we even think out of the box, like our safety has no blind spot campaign. Well, yeah, Dave, you're sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you there.

I think you're exactly right. I was just thinking, you know, had so many thoughts as you were saying that is, you know, we had a nice meeting with Kendrick over some things that wants to change some procedures and processes. And it was a great meeting, but he, he didn't feel that we were, he, he, he wants more. He wants to try harder. He wants us even being safer. He cares. And he's not sure that we're making a difference. You know what I mean? Cause he cares so much.

And, and we, we asked him, do you think we're better? And he, and he just wasn't sure because we're, we're still, we're still backing into bends. We just had two bad accidents, stuff like that. We just hit a scale. Just hit a scale. It doesn't look like that. But Jam mentioned it earlier this morning. We have 110 trucks running out there, you know, and we're, you know, I don't want to say that one accident is okay. Cause it's not, but back to my point and your point.

I mean, what about the guys that aren't, aren't practicing anything? How are they? The companies? Yeah. The companies, how are they, how are they at 10 trucks or 50 trucks or a hundred trucks? I mean.

They're the ones that go out of business. Right. They're here a year, five years, 10 years. And then pretty soon they've closed their doors. Yeah. Because their focus isn't safety. Yeah. They're sued and, you know, their people get sued and civilly and all that kind of stuff. It's, it is. I mean, that's all we do is talk safety. It's what we do. Period. I mean, we, we beg to stop at stop signs. We beg to drive the speed limit. We beg to haul legal. We pray about it.

We, we, we are asking in every way. Right. And, and. It still happens. It still happens. You know, and I think that's the frustrating part. Well, it's, it's the human aspect. We're not, we're not perfect. Right. You know, none of us are perfect and that's where it, it just, we're asking you to be perfect. Yeah. I mean, it's just, you know, and then you. I hate statistics, Jim, but it all comes down to that. You know, the more trucks on the road, the more situations we're going to run into.

Yeah. But can we beat that? Can we beat this? Can we beat the percentage? I mean, I understand, like, let's say, you know, we're going to have 25% accidents. Can we make that 10? Yeah. Can our safety program and what we try to drive into everybody every day, can we lower that, you know? That's my question. I hope so. The outfall, the accident. We have to. Yeah. We have to. Yeah. Anomalies exist and let's be one. Well, what was the. They don't happen by, no pun intended, by accident.

You know what I mean? They're right. It's a result of hard work. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely. Well, what was the saying with the coach, Dave? I thought it was you last week. You know, if we pursue excellence every day, we might achieve greatness or is it backwards? I was, while we're chasing perfection, maybe along the way we'll achieve excellence. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's what we need to do every day. But everybody needs to do it all the time. Exactly. When it comes to driving this truck down the road, I mean, the incidentals suck, right?

Backing to a bin, that sucks. That costs us money. It's frustrating. But when we're driving down the road and there's the public out there and property that we don't own and lives that are at risk, everyone's got to do it right all the time. All that's all that, that's all, that's it. That's it. And we, we've, we've hurt three people in the last month. Yeah. That's 30 days. Three? Yeah. Yeah. Two in the last one and one here yesterday. Oh yeah.

We haven't, we're moving on to discussion, but we haven't finished shout outs. Oh yeah. Because I got a couple more actually. Me too. Me too. I'll go and then you guys go. Got one more on the outline and I just got a Facebook message. So let me read those two. Kathy wants to give a shout out to Bear for coming over from Yard 23 to help out with Toro.

Her and Joanne had a couple of questions about tickets and tonnage and pounds and Bear came over on his own time from the other yard to help them out. That is awesome. Yeah, we spoke to him yesterday while he was here And I don't know if him and Kathy worked it out because Kathy came in and had quite a conversation with Ann about how Toro's picking up the tonnages. Like we think the guys are just trying to correct the tonnage and it does something different to Toro.

So they're working on it. But if it wasn't for Bear, you guys are right. We wouldn't be getting to the bottom of him. Yeah. And then I think he's off next week or starting this week. He's going hunting with his family. So Bear. Yeah, Bear. He just went hunting last week. He got that turkey hunted. Right. Yeah. Right. I don't think he was licensed for turkey, though. Bear versus turkey? Was he proud in that photo? Yes, he was so proud. Holding up turkey up at yard 23 in front of his truck.

That was the proudest hunter I had ever seen. If that's a sign of how his hunting trip's going to go, he's going to go there. Right, right. He's going to get some. He wasn't even trying to hunt, but he got some. I know we're making fun of that or whatever, joking about it, but what a great job driving when that happened. Yeah. You know what I mean? He didn't jerk the wheel. He didn't run off the road.

He didn't, you know what I mean? He maintained a hundred percent control is what I'm trying to get at. There's other occasions that's happened and the driver swerved off the road. Right. Right? Yeah. There was a big flinch in the cab, but you couldn't tell. There was. You couldn't tell from the way he was driving, yeah. Right. And the flinch was like, oh, shit, is that coming through? Yeah. You know, not like a pan. And it did put a hole in the windshield.

Yeah, there was glass all over the dash on the video. Yeah, I mean, just so everybody knows, Bear over at Yard 23 going, he was, wasn't he Balkan coming up from Wholesome, Florence? Yeah. I mean, I even hate saying locations anymore. I'm never correct on the locations, but damn. He's on a big road. Right, right. What was, it was, yeah. Well, no, he wasn't even. Anyway, you guys, he's traveling along, minding his own business and actually passing a tree on the right side and a

flock of turkeys just out of nowhere. Because there was really no car in front of him. I don't know what possessed those turkeys to fly out of there. Maybe there was a break in traffic, they thought. Let's go. And the majority of them made it, but the one didn't. And, yep, Bear got a turkey. Just needless to say, he didn't know what hit him. No, turkey. He did. Nice thing about that is that turkey will not go to waste. Yeah. Did he take it home?

Yeah. It's in his freezer. Nice. I don't know if that's legal or not. I mean, it's just a made up unchecked. Yes. That's just our opinion. Yes. And I got a message from Brenda Alvarez, which is Cisco's wife, who is very engaged with the podcast and sends messages quite a bit. Whose sister, Kim, works. Oh, yeah. Kim's as well. Yeah, that's right. So she says, hello, good morning. I just wanted to reach out and say how helpful Nice Healthcare has been to me lately.

I've had a few appointments with them now, and it's so convenient to be able to do that from the comfort of my home through video chat. They also work with Capsule Pharmacy and deliver it to your home, which also is nice and convenient. Thank you for providing this, not just to your employees, but to their families as well. We greatly and truly appreciate it. Thanks again. Have a nice day. Nice. Sweet. All right. That's all I got for shout outs. Cool.

I just want to jump in there and give the super dumps a shout out. I know we kind of touched upon this last week, I think, but we've just been, you know, trying to, it's a, it's a new thing for us hauling that asphalt. And it's been very eye-opening, right? As far as how do we keep the beds clean? And, you know, I know we touched upon it last week, but every, all of them are trying really hard to get those beds back clean again.

And, you know, so they can switch from asphalt to material at any time and,

you know, getting the coating on them. And I know we've got some product coming to, finish cleaning out the few beds that that yeah if we need that polished look so there's no layer of asphalt stuck to them anymore and not just the beds if we get into a situation where they got a little dirtier than normal and yeah you know it just needs a little bit of extra something we got the hd clean on the way and jim he went above and beyond man i i was

trying to get a couple ounces you got a 55 rounds run i i was shocked when the the name the gentleman's name is jeff there at BG Chemicals and he sent those prices over and I'm like, wow, that just looks so much better. And I started doing the math on him. Like it was half a price, half the price for a drum. And I'm like, we got to do a drum. You know, there's just no, no choice. So yeah. Well, my charge was better than your charge. Cause I got the sample for free. You're ahead of me then.

Yeah. Garrett at Brandon, yesterday we had lunch with Garrett and Jason Donati and a great lunch. Good to talk to those guys and stuff. But Garrett said the citrus products work the best. And he said there are some really good citrus products out there. Even he thought above the HD, Dave. He did. But it just, it takes that citrus to break it down. And so we might, we'll keep looking, but like Dave said, the, you know, it's new to all of us.

And I know yesterday, one of the competition or somebody that's basically working with us had the box in the air and tore down a light on one of their jobs. And, you know, paving is a whole different, I mean, overhead lines and lights and trees and curbs. driveways and sidewalks and all that stuff. So yeah, it's every single thing we're not talking about. Yep. I mean, those, those six drivers and it's, it's down to five right now.

Wow. The, the safety on that hoop. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Jim's showing us the video right now of the. Was stopped. Was that, was that yesterday? That's the truck. He's hauling. Oh, he's out on the road. No wonder he hit the light. Oh, wow. He wasn't even bringing it down. It was straight up. Gotta go. Gotta go. Yeah. And it's an, and it's hourly. The thing is they, you know, we got the phone call here that it was us. Yes. Right. Yeah, we did. Red truck. State reported it was a red truck. Red truck.

And we were told it was us. It's a JFW truck. And Linda and Dustin, you know, and Oswaldo, I mean, everybody's looking, I'm seeing them, listening to them go through video and well, the light was there at this time. The light was there at this time. Well, it's not here at this time, you know, and, and yada, yada, yada. And yeah, anyway, thank goodness it wasn't us.

And I guess I want to thank those guys and, and gals that are on that, on, in the super dumps and we're not helping you train for this. We're, we're not out there on those job sites. We're not there at the plant loading. We're, you know, we can talk, we can help you get down the road between here and there. We're educating you on that, but we're not educating you on each job site. And each job site is a hundred percent different.

Every single job site is going to have a different hazard. You know, what hazard is there to your tire? What hazard is there on the street? What hazard is there in traffic? You know, Jim mentioned the overhead power lines, you know, the other team yesterday took out a streetlight because they were traveling down the road with their bed in the air.

You know, I mean, and you hear this and you're like, I had such a pit in my stomach while they were searching for that until we found we were clear that you're just like, oh my God, what? Not more. We can't continue to have more. And it is gut-wrenching. And I know you know that feeling, Jim, just like you talk about with the phone calls. Yeah, I was going to say, I still had a pit in my stomach after I found out who it was because I just know what they're going through.

Right. You don't want that to happen to anybody. Right. Yeah, Dave just said it. They're part of the team. We're all trying to get it done. You know, it's not an adversarial deal. So, yeah. Yeah. Because they, they just, they just gave us a bad image. Like the accident we had yesterday, we gave ourselves and the trucking community. Just like we gave them a bad image, right? We gave them a bad image. Yeah. It's not. It's a brotherhood, man.

It sucks. We're, you know, we were talking before the podcast about how to address the accident yesterday. And, you know, we've talked about it a little bit already. I guess you had some shout outs, Jim. Like we're like, man, we're, we're excited to talk about our problems. Yeah, I just wanted to, well, it's the same thing, Dave, because we were trying to convey what that accident cost us, what it means, all that kind of stuff, what we're trying to do for safety.

And we, we hit the scale last week, I think, is that when it happened Monday or Tuesday last week? Yeah. And hitting the scale, I mean, we hit the rail up at Young Ranch and bent it. But the driver that was pulling on, the windows were up. His cab lights inside the cab were on. I don't believe he looked in the right-hand mirror. And all the things that we were taught, he didn't stop before coming on the scale. All the things that we preach and we teach so that it doesn't happen are the

things that will stop this from happening. But when you don't do them, they happen. Yes. Right? And so we have, you know, my shout out is for Scooby and Casey for going up and getting it. You know, they took it off and we have hours in fixing this. We saved the money of replacing it and having to order it, which I don't know how much that would cost. If I were to guess, Jim, five grand. Oh, yeah. Easy. Shipping, Dave, and all the rest of the time, the scale looking the way it looks.

You know the rest of my shout out is you know and i know casey helped both take it off and put it back on but scooby and and jam helped me straighten it or i helped them straighten it saturday and we we were hoping to be done in two and a half hours we were three hours straightening it just just heating the hell out of it and beating the shit out of it right jam yeah yeah i mean that's always That's all we did. And then we sanded it, and Scooby and Jam painted it, and we tied it back down.

We have- I mean, there were three men on that job. So if it was three hours, there was nine hours. Luckily, we don't pay you to do it. That was just once it got here. Yeah. Yeah. That's what, I mean, we probably got 18 hours in it with no problem. Yeah. But for just the small things that would have prevented that. Right. And how do you, I mean, we get it, but how do we convey it to the driver that hit it? I'm sure he feels bad.

You know, there's remorse, you know, but it's thinking about it before it happens. Yeah. If you walked up to that trailer and seen that piece of metal on there and how bent it was, like most people would just give up.

Like, look at it and be like, I can't fix that. and that probably would have been me like if i if it was just me and that was my piece of metal and i would have looked at i'd be like we need a new one we need a new one exactly and to see what has to go into that to move it i'm talking about jim on a sledgehammer i mean heating this thing until it's cherry red you know scooby on the skid steer using it as an anvil like the whole thing like it took a lot like most

people would that yeah that's not gonna be fixed Right. And the fact that we fixed them and they said it bolted right up. I know. I know it. It bolted. How many mounts did you guys have to straighten? Four. Four. And we went, we straightened the four, brought them back to straight, and then let it cool. We did it on purpose. We went down, and then we started back at the beginning again on the first one, so the front part of it was cool, and we could straighten the second part. Gotcha.

And then the thing is, when we tried to straighten the second piece, we started to bend the first piece again, because there's no support there, and it was cool, Dave. Sure, it was like bent in an S. Yes. Yeah. I know exactly what you guys are talking about. But, Jam, what I wanted to add to that, and Dave, we talked about it, not my closing thoughts, is we had this in front of us and we overcame the obstacle.

We didn't just roll over and go, oh, we got to go spend $5,000 and buy a new one and just roll over. We as a group of teammates and I'm going to say men or people, and it could be a woman. Well, it just happened to be men on the job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing, we got it done, you know, and, and, you know, Dave said he's watching a TV show that, you know, about sports and stuff. And the coach gives a speech that, you know, you guys are only as good as the people next to you.

We're only as good as the guys driving the trucks, our trucks. You know, when we say there's two kinds of support here, driver support and driver support. Yeah. Driver and driver support. Right. But, yeah. They're also the only ones that, that basically cause cause damage. Yeah. You know, I mean. The drivers make us safe. I've said that before too. At the end of the day, it's the people out there in the field that, that make us safe. I mean, we talk about it. If we make a mistake in the office,

it's a few keystrokes on a computer keyboard and we fix it. Right. We rewrite a piece of paper. We do whatever it did. It doesn't physically cost anything. And when you, when we use the term cost, right, it's not just money, right? It's cost to the public. It's cost to our image. It's cost to our reputation. You know, I mean, our reputation is tarnished by, by a paving industry now, right? Because of their accident yesterday. They hit the light.

And this isn't to blame or point fingers, just like their reputation is tarnished by our accident yesterday.

Yeah. Right. It's the same difference. our industry needs to be safer as a whole we need safer people we need better people and you know we we talked about this and we're still getting away from finishing shout outs i know you you have i mean i finished mine because jam and scooby i just you know yeah i couldn't have done it without them but like the military we we talked about this reference earlier we're only as good as our slowest person right we're only as fast as our slowest person right so

we're only as safe as our least safest person. Right. Right? So that's how we're looked at. And I hate to say it, but we not only need to chase perfection, we need to find it. Excellence isn't good enough, which is hard to swallow, but it's the truth. Our goal needs to be perfect. Yeah. And what a good segue there, Dave, or not a segue. What a good, cost is not dollars. Not in this. It is in all of it, right? I mean, it's, it's, it's a financial burden.

It's an image burden. It's a safety burden. It's all of those burdens wrapped in one. Everybody just can't listen to this and go, oh, JFW can afford that.

Bullshit. If we could afford that, we would have bought a rail and had it put on. We would have hired a company to go up and do it or paid them or we can't, we can't physically continue to stay in business and pay for all of the damage we're responsible for. Period. No company can. No, and that's the reason we have this podcast to try to create safety and touch everybody, just like the opening line that Jam reads. And the things yesterday, they had to clear the highway yesterday.

Just the tow bill was $1,600. Just the tow bill. And who accounts for that? Right. Who makes up for that money? You know, in the tow wrecker company, he showed up and goes, do you think I can get payment? And Dave took care of it. But he's like, you know, a lot of people are upset when I ask for payment. But I'm not the one that wrecked the truck. Or I'm not the one that put the truck in the ditch. I'm not the one that rolled it over.

Right. He was the one that probably got burnt for $1,600. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You do not want that tow truck to leave. And just so everybody knows, it's not the normal tow company we use. Otherwise, they send us a bill because we use them so much. Yeah. No, because, yeah, I should have made that point more stronger is the state patrol, they had to clear the highway or Brighton. He had to open the road. We had it closed. Had Highway 85 closed.

You don't wait for our guy to show up. Yeah. You get it open. Right. You know, and there's- Which they were there and on scene fast. They were there before. Yeah. Yeah. And look at the cost of our image. Which should almost be a thank you to them. Oh, absolutely. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. And Mike said they did a great job, by the way. He did. He did. That was impressive. That's a lot coming from Mikey. It is to be on scene because

it's not his first rodeo. Yeah. He's dealt with a lot of those guys. Yeah. So it was Mirage towing, just so everybody knows, the gentleman from Mirage. And I'm sure they did. Like we're talking, they have other drivers that are the best is their worst tow record guy. Right. And we happened to get a really good guy yesterday. You know, like sending our, our, our team out, sometimes you get the best and the worst of, of our, you know, reputation and, but how, how do we, how, how do we change that?

How do we, you know, it's like hitting the scale. It seemed.

Simple or okay or not a big deal and yet it's it's everything it was monumental monumental but what was the one yesterday then when we hurt somebody right so jim you know what you never know how you change it but you keep swinging right oh you keep keep repeating the same things over and over again you keep having training classes you keep having improved equipment you keep having you know you just don't stop but do you really ever know if you've made a difference

i think it shows up in statistics finally super dave but you know that old michael jordan quote you know it's so funny jim i wanted to say that right only everybody counts the baskets i've made right 300 times yeah but i've missed like 13 000 shots yeah yeah but he keeps making the basket but the thing Dave is is this is where we talked about the podcast in the beginning of it is I got we we all have pits in our stomach I am pissed off

that we talk about this every freaking week we have banners on our fences we have safety teams we have orientation and yet we still can't do it without an accident that's where it bugs me super Dave right that's where you get upset, but you keep swinging. We got to keep swinging. We're trying to keep this positive without going. Hey, you know, dumb asses. We almost killed somebody yesterday, right? That's what it boils down to. And that's not, that's not going to get us any place.

Yeah. It's kind of like I was saying earlier, just trying to get everybody on the same page. Right. So the, the kid that hit the scale, right to him, you know, that was a mess up he had.

Maybe he's never had a mess up before and maybe he'll never have another one but he had one and it cost jfw the kid in the accident yesterday right he's never had an accident before he'll probably never do the same thing he did right cost jfw right so all these individuals are just having their little little hiccups because we're not perfect because we're not perfect but they all add up you know when I when you know when and I don't want to sound negative right but when do we

stop believing we have a good safety program. Do you know what I'm trying to say? Like, when do we feel like, you know what? Maybe we aren't that great. Yeah. You know, because I tell everybody how great we are and how great our safety program is and what we do to be safe, you know, but after you go to so many of these accidents and it's like, man, how come he didn't know about what we've been preaching?

How come this kid that hit the scale or this man that hit the scale, you know, didn't know to roll his windows down? Right. And didn't, like, how come he didn't do the things that we told him to do? You know, so it's just like, when do, you know, I don't want to lose the faith because I won't, that's not my personality, but it kind of makes you think like. Well, it wears on you, Jam, because it's time and time again. When you get beat down enough, you're beat down.

Right. Right. So, I mean, it's tough to keep that positive spin on it, but we do, we will, we will prevail. We will win this. Right. But, but how do we get, it's almost, I don't want to say accountability, but it is almost accountability or, or maybe we're the ones swinging the axes when we need everyone swinging the axe.

Right. And, and I, I guess I want to kind of bring up an example. you know we had three trucks going to redmond yesterday to get salt and all three of them we got speed alerts going down vale west wow come out of the tunnels we were going well over 45 miles an hour down west side of vale west bound and and well you don't want to do that because vale loves to sit at the bottom of that hill i've seen him a hundred times big ass fat fine and guess what a trucker speeding down through there

and and i just want last time dave i was through there There was a lot of construction. Right, Jim? A lot. Yeah. It might be done by now, but. Now I want to bring up, because the one driver was in, and I don't even know what trucks have it. My gosh, I'm so behind it. It's got to be one of the newest trucks. But he said his speed limit on his dash said 60. And I'm like. It's the car speed limit. Exactly, Dave. Thank you.

Exactly. But here's the deal. the sign inside the tunnel warning truckers that there's a hill that's 45 miles an hour that you are about to go down the big flashing sign outside of the tunnels was it warning truckers i'm talking veil pass or eisenhower eisenhower i'm sorry okay i'm sorry i'm sorry well no it was veil west i'm sorry it was veil west it was veil i said eisenhower no time is it same difference no same difference yeah i just wanted to

it doesn't matter there's a sign bright flashing sign right it's when we get asked where's where's the speed limit posted here on on both sides of floyd hill yeah right it's like oh my gosh you've hauled how many loads out of the quarry out of wallstrom and you don't know where that sign starts and i'd have to ask no matter what your dash says, You're in charge of that truck. Right. You know, how many times are you stepping on the brakes at the speed you're at?

But that's my point. Are they swinging the ax? Are they engaged? Are they watching? Are they focused? Are they thinking? Are they, what are they thinking? There's so much to think about. There's so much you got to make sure about. Yeah, driving a truck down the road, putting it in gear and making a move is easy. But man, you got to check all the boxes. You got to stay in the moment. You got to be present. Engaged and not complacent. To me, no, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm interrupting

you, Jam. I think I interrupted you. But throughout this whole thing, and sometimes when we sit down with drivers, you hear them say, I'm better than this. But I remember, and this was a pretty funny lesson. I don't know what my coach was trying to do here, but I was sparring somebody and I was getting my ass kicked.

And then he was talking to me. I'm like, man, I'm a better fighter than this he's like no actually you're just as good as you are right now like you're not better than this you're getting the last clip you know what i mean well that's that's exactly what happened, coaching right now that's it right actually i'm really better than this because you keep blocking punches with your fucking face well that's what we did up the scale that's all the better we are and yesterday at that accident that's

all the better we were right yeah you know So, so I, I, before we got off on the jokes there, that was funny, Jeff, I was blocking punches with my face. We were blocking cars with our truck. You have to stay in the moment. I, I, you know, I, we talk, we, we talk so much about this on air, off air. I mean, we are safety, safety, safety. We live it, we breathe it, you know, get out and look stickers on the mirrors. You know, safety has no blind spot bracelets, posters, you know,

billboards in our yards. Oh my God. Yeah. Podcast, everything. But if you're not in the moment, I think that has so much to do with it. You know, if you're pulling on the scale and you're worried about where you're going to deliver, you need to be focused on step one. You need to get on that scale, right? You need to get on that scale safely.

You know, yesterday at that red light, you know, when I watched that video, there was a truck parked on the left lane and there was a truck parked on the right lane, not moving and we rolled through the right lane. Yeah, we should say that. I wanted to bring that up. We ran a red light. A solid red light. Yes, crazy. We ran it. You know what I think would help? Shock seats. And collars. Collars if you're going to go. Collars.

So when you're coming up to an intersection, boom, there you go. Wake up. But what gets a person to- Coming on the scale. Boom. Besides the shot caller, what does get a person to think about, I've mentioned it so much, the what if or what the result is to keep in the moment, however you want to look at, of what needs to be done and what it's going to cost everybody.

I mentioned it, I don't know how many times as growing up and a younger driver, one of my biggest fears was to do everything correct because I didn't want to be looked at as the boss's kid. Right. I had to be better than the screw up. I had to be better than any of the stories that drove me. So what can we ask you guys, what drives you besides all our conversations to be better or, you know, jam, not you don't use your face for a punching bag.

How do we get you not to do that yeah you know you got the guys out there like I'll just use Jack Domenico for an example I bet he has a system for every procedure and I guess what I mean by that is he has a system for a procedure when he pulls into this pit okay this is where I scale this is where I load and I do it this way and this is how I stop and when he gets to each plant he has a procedure you know because I mean he does it it's flawlessly every

day it's a process or a procedure Dave right I agree with you but what caused him to create that procedure process what just that he cares so damn much or because his family spent all those years in that business and he's he's lived what we're living right now sure I think that's it Jim you know he's been the guy to go fetch that truck you know or he's been the guy to deal with that police officer and so right but he's a small example because we have other guys just as good as

jack that didn't yeah have a company and i know you i know you picked him out but the the thing is is what are those guys thinking about and what can we share with a younger driver even even our older experienced driver because you become complacent yeah the the odds when we met with the insurance that was pretty eye-opening when it's we're probably pushing a year at that last meeting. We talked about it on the one podcast, Jim, about what is it?

The zero to five-year driver, it's X percentage that they're going to have an accident. Then they get really good between that. And I'm going to say three to five to eight or 10 years. And then you have that guy that's 10 to 15 and you're like, odds stack back up because they get complacent, right? Yeah. And you got to be careful about the procedures and the procedures.

What else did you call it? Processes. Processes, right? Because- I was one of those guys who do it the same way every single time and then something happens, and you skip a step and because you came out of your procedure because you got distracted or something like that you know like unhooking the trailer like or or or yeah like hooking up to a trailer i probably did it the same way every time you know i start with the trailer putting the landing legs up or unhooking i

should say and then i remember i got distracted and then i pulled out and drop the trail on the frame because something threw me off you gotta it's good at procedures but you also have to be able to look back and make sure that you did those procedures check the processes yeah my my not my favorite one i don't even know a word to describe it but one of the processes i would lose dumping because obviously you know the process of flipping the pto on and putting it in a raised position

you can't really miss those steps because the trader doesn't move Right. But how many times did I forget to let the air out of the bags? You're all, you know, you're dumped and stuff and you look back and you're like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. You know, I forgot to flip the airbags because they're, you know, they're skyjacked. And you flip it real fast. And you flip it because you're like, well, let's let some air out of these. Yes, sir. You know, but that's, that's those steps.

But that step isn't hurting anybody. You know, is it good on the airbags? No. You know, but you have to follow those procedures. And the next, the next times after that, I was like, remember to flip the air. Remember to flip the air. Right. You know, it's, yeah, we have to, we have to make an impact and hopefully this kind of podcast.

Can it can get some listeners you know but hopefully listen yeah yeah i mean i noticed what we're down to 154 no what what was the downloads 257 257 yeah you know so that's a lot that's a lot more people than our drivers but do we just have some good fans out there and we we're missing 50 drivers yeah we don't know that right yeah you know it's it's ironic or it seems silly to get on here and tell people to listen to the podcast because if they're not listening,

if they're not listening, they're not going to hear it. Tell everybody to listen to the podcast. Yeah, like the people that listen that work here, if you listen to this podcast and you work here, ask your friends to listen to this episode. Your friends that work here, make sure they're listening to it. I mean, we're doing some business with a new bank, Jim, and the guy listened to two or three episodes. No way. Yes. That's awesome.

And we He had a conversation about it. He thought they were great. He said, I can't, I can't believe the safety that you're, they're taught. He got it, you know, by listening. And I'm like, well, it's, you know, didn't quite know everything then, but it's not enough. We're, we're obviously not doing enough. We wouldn't discuss it every week if it were enough. Yeah. Sometimes. We would just get on here and tell stories and BS and let you guys listen to it. Yeah. We can't.

Yeah. You know, when you ask why do we talk about the same things, it's because you need to hear the same things every day, apparently. Yeah. Over and over. Yeah. Yeah, there was a pastor out there. Tell me in Chudvijian is the way you... You may pronounce his name less like that, but he preaches about, you know, love, like just God's love, God's love, God's love. And somebody's like, you always preach about God's love. And he's like, you need to hear about that every day.

Well, you know, too, though, remember, there's always new people listening. Yeah. So they need to hear it, right? Maybe they're hearing it for the first time. Sure. But somebody else is hearing it for the 20th time. Yeah. 100th. All right. Any more shout outs? Dave, did you finish? I did. Okay. And you finished him? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, we've already kind of started the discussion and Jim, this, this first item is, is pretty much yours.

It's ours, but you brought it up. So why don't you dive into that a little bit more? Yeah. It just overcoming adversity, you guys. I mean, we're, we're in a, we're in a position of adversity right now. Not that every day can't be that, but we've had two accidents. Serious accidents in less than 30 days. And, and that's, that's, you know, adversity and, and to try to keep a positive spin. How can we, how can we overcome that?

You know, stop having the accidents. That's the easy way, but how can we, you know, everything we've been talking about for the last 15 minutes and, and one of the articles I ran across cause I was trying to find something. And again, it brings up, you know, famous people are, are come up right off the bat and, and Abraham Lincoln suffered from depression. And back in the day, they called it melancholy.

And one of his partners was said when he, when he would come in the office or you'd see him, his melancholy would drip off of him, you know, and I, and I picture him being kind of like an E or something like that. But he was in such deep thought to overcome all of that. And part of the adversity that we need to overcome, and I'm going to talk about these two accidents we've told you before in other podcasts, is that we have a $25,000 deductible. It's what JFW covers.

And everybody should know what their deductible is. You might have it on your house. You might have it on your car. You might, you know, if you don't have a deductible, that's, if you have a small deductible, your insurance rates might be higher. If you have a large deductible, they're lower, all that. Well, we play that. We put all our faith in our teammates and we carry a huge deductible. You guys, that's $25,000 per occurrence. Well, the last two accidents, no doubt our fault.

We're 50 grand in the hole. and we don't. We don't figure that in the top line. We don't have that going, okay, we're going to have four accidents at $100,000 and we need to raise our prices by 20 cents to make that up. That's not, this is part of business. So our adversity is we need to ask everybody not only be safe because life counts on it, lives are counting on it, but we got to make 50 grand up. How many more loads do we have to haul? Right, Jam? I don't even know what that was.

And then, you know, the shout out for nice just now. And I mean, we're days. Man, you are like going to dive in, aren't you? Because we're days from it, Dave. It's October. We just had Cigna come to us and the consensus is we all like Cigna. We have nice. We all seem to enjoy nice. But Cigna came to us and they tried to give us a 39% increase. 39%, you guys. $39. And our agent or broker, they were just playing right there on the phone, I guess, with Cigna and said, they can't do that.

The company can't afford that. Nobody can afford that. So we have it down to a 29% increase. And if you take 29% on what we paid last year, it's an over a $200,000 increase. $209,000 increase. Yeah, $209,000 increase. On top of a $25,000 on top of another $25,000. So now we're at a $259,000 loss. Yeah. For all over a quarter of a million dollars in five days. And, and we're looking at, you know, do we need to, we can't afford nice.

Is that what we do so we can keep Cigna? Right. You know, and, and the, the, the, the adversity is, is just, it's devastating. It's, it's a weight on my shoulders and, and, and I have all of you guys to help me carry the load.

I have, I have everybody here to carry the load, but it's overwhelming on my shoulders. And because then, you know, believe it or not, and I guess we've tried to prove it over the years, we care. We care about all you guys. I went from not trying to be the stupid boss's kid to being the boss and going, I can't let anybody down now at the business we've built, the business you guys help us build every day. We can't let you down.

And we're talking about not having nice. or not having Cigna, which is a good insurance. You know, it's horrifying. I mean, not to make any light of this, but I'm as horrified, me and Holly went to the store and I went back to pretty much of a protein or a carnivore diet. We needed some eggs because I'm eating a lot of eggs, right?

And there was no eggs in King Soopers. There was two cartons left And they have signs on the egg refrigerator that because of Colorado and the cage-free eggs, there is a shortage. She picked up the one carton of eggs. I don't know how many was in the carton. It was a small carton. It was like $26. What? Yes. Because that was the only company that had cage-free eggs. And we voted on this shit, you guys. I get. I didn't vote on eggs. Well, somebody voted on the cage-free chickens.

And I'm sorry, maybe people, maybe an animal lover will hate me, but I want to feed my damn family and feed it affordably whether a chicken doesn't have a one foot by one foot by one foot area to scratch and take a dirt bath. And if that's inhumane, that's inhumane. Because I couldn't afford, I can't afford to buy eggs. Well, Jim, you need to go to the New King Soopers in Erie because that place is stuffed with everything. I can't believe the junk they've squeezed into that store.

Well, I don't, I'm just joking. I don't want junk. I want eggs. It's too much for me. I'm pissed they closed a Lafayette store. Yeah, but do they have eggs in there right now? A whole freaking wall of eggs. I was just in there on Sunday. Well, because it goes into effect January 1st, 2025, the egg producers have had two years. We voted in it on 2023. So yeah, I just, I mean, all of that, you guys, but so that's adversity. What do we do about that?

We vote for the right people. We tell you guys to drive safely. We ask you to roll down the windows and stop before you pull on the scale. I mean, you know, talking to Ken the other day as one of the safety directors, when he loads out trucks over there at plant 23 or yard 23, he says, loading the blue salt, you wouldn't believe how many people just pull on our scale. They never stop. And Ken's like, that's not how you were taught. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I meant to stop.

And you've added a stop sign. Yeah. Yeah. And we've added a stop sign. There's a stop sign at the front of that scale. So, so my, my, my thing is back to that. If you can't even do it right, how will you ever get over adversity? Well, Jim, I've been listening to you and I don't think our adversity is the same as theirs. I think we have a much greater adversity we need to overcome and it entails their safety. Yeah. They're, they're greatly causing our adversity.

And I, I, I say it that way. And I, I don't mean that as a shot. That's a fact, right? When they're not safe, it creates adversity for us. Just like we had to fix the rail, just like we'll have to deal with the insurance, just like we'll have to deal with all the other issues and problems that come up. That's our responsibility. So to lead and lower our fight against adversity, we have to create higher standards, produce safer procedures, talk about our safety like we do every week.

But i don't think our adversity is the same as theirs you know the the the kid yesterday that had the accident you know we joke about this which is is terrible to joke about but he didn't wake up yesterday morning and say i'm going to cause an accident and you know hurt some i'm going to suck he didn't do right he didn't wake up out of bed and go i'm going to suck today he did not right but did he wake up and say i'm going to be as safe as i can did he

wake up and and say i'm going to do everything right? Did he wake up and think about his procedures and protocols and the things we've preached about? I don't know. Those are the things we need to get everyone to listen to, right? And these are the reasons why. Those are the facts. Those are the reasons why. We need that. We need every ounce of safety from you. And these are the reasons why.

These are the repercussions we're fighting. You know, the insurance, there's not, the health insurance, there's not a damn thing we can do about that. We have a great healthcare company that we partnered with for a year and six people have used it and we're hot. We're hot. Right? Our rates are going to go up. Our rates are going to go up by $209,000. There's not a damn thing we can do about it because we provided any insurance for people to use.

So we used it and now we're in trouble for it, right? But you guys, I'm telling you, we could have the cleanest year possible and no one use the insurance. It's still going to go up. Oh yeah. Well, it's only a 7% increase. That's the business model. It is. And it is, yeah, you guys have heard me preach too much. It's sick and wrong. The whole health insurance is a scam and we need to figure out a way around it.

You know, and help me with the story, Dave, because I want to end on this piece, you know, so we can go to the other discussions. But, you know, Janet tells the story. Janet is Dave's wife and her family owned Owens Brothers Concrete before Ready Mixed bought it. And then Brandon bought Ready Mixed. But her grandfather used to come in to the office there on like Tuesdays or Wednesdays and it was donut day.

He knew there was donuts and coffee there and he came in the morning to get his donut and he says, hey Janet, what's, what's going on? And she's like, grandpa, I'm set. We've rolled a mixer. We've had an accident, you know, just, just having a bad day. And she's just giving conversation to her grandfather. You know, he's, he's, you know, he asked and that's a bad day, right? You know, that's right. You've rolled a mixer. You've had an accident.

We had a bad day yesterday, you know, and And her grandfather, nonchalantly, the way Janet tells the story, and he was part of the greatest generation ever, looks at her, you know, no change of attitude, no change of tone. He goes, you know, I had one of those bad days when I had to drag three of my best friends back across the enemy lines that were dead. And it took all day to do it. And it took all day to do it. I had to recover their bodies.

And I don't want my girls or anybody's children to live through that, but we hopefully will never have to do that or understand that. And yet that's a bad day. And I guess why can't we care that much so we don't have to have these bad days? Why can we not make a difference? Why cannot, like you asked, Dave, the driver yesterday, did he get up and go, I'm going to be the best driver I can be?

You know, did Janet's grandfather get up and go, hey, I'm going to drag some dead people back across enemy lines and hope I don't get killed. I bet when he got up, he goes, I hope I don't die today. Yeah. You know, and I'm just trying to give a spin on what some kind of realization. I'm trying to reach your heart, trying to reach your mind.

It's almost like when you wake up to do this job, you can't wake up and be like, oh, I'm going to work. It's more than work. It is. I'm going to drive an 80,000-pound vehicle on a highway in public. Right. What comes with that? Right. But do you really know what's going to happen on any given day? No. No, that's the reason you have to be prepared. You have to head on a swivel, all of that. Well, Super Dave, I guess a portion of that, I understand what you're saying.

And this isn't an argument, but a portion of that says, if I'm involved in an accident, was it preventable or, or you know what I mean? Was it my fault? I guess is what I'm getting at. And I truly believe we're involved in accidents. I don't want to say constantly a lot that have nothing to do with us, right? We were innocent bystander and there was nothing we could do about it. And we've had some drivers do some amazing jobs, you know, not making those accidents worse.

Right. But there was no way they could avoid them. They couldn't prevent them. These that we're talking about are 100% avoidable. Everything we're talking about is avoidable. And those are the things we need to focus on. How do we get that person to wake up and not be worried about anything else other than safety? How do we get them to wake up and go down the west side of Vail at 45 miles an hour? How do we get them to wake up and not run a red light?

How do we get them to wake up and haul legal? How do we get them to wake up and not be worried about the weight, but rather the safety of what they're doing? Because when you focus on the safety, everything else comes into line. And you have to do everything that is preventable. It was an avoidable accident. And I think those are the things that we really need to drive home and focus on. And I think we do a pretty good job, but clearly not good enough, right?

We're clearly not touching every single person, but I don't know how you do, right?

I don't know how, unless we have a guard standing at the gate every morning before every truck leaves. And, you know, you see every person and go, you just stop and go, hey, are you going to be safe today? And if they just go, yeah, you need to ask, what are you going to do to be safe? Well, I'm not going to speed. I'm going to stop and roll down my windows before I pull on every scale. I'm going to be in first gear. You know, I'm going to look like my family is

next to me before I change lanes. And I'm going to take at least eight to 10 seconds to change lanes. I got a good night's sleep last night. Yep. I feel great this morning. I'm rested. You know, I, I, it's going to be a great day, right? You know, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. How do you, how do you get that? How do you, how do we prepare them for every situation? You know, how do we prepare our super dump drivers not to leave their bed in

the air and go down the road, right? How do we prepare them for that? How do we, we count on them. We talk about it. You know, clearly Jam's got a video of it happening, right? Was that from one of our trucks that was on the, like our camera? Yeah. Someone's phone. Cell phone. Oh, okay. Someone's cell phone. Captured it, Dave. You know, the thing too, Dave, is we have, and Super Dave brought it up before we started that, we talk about distracted driving.

And there's a new law by the way coming into effect you know yeah i saw your mails for cell phone i did print it i kind of assumed you would i printed it jim we can just had it on my phone but okay you know obviously we need to talk about it but super dave you said it before we started the podcast is there's all sorts of distractions and it's not necessarily a cell phone distracted right now with jam whipping that knife open to cut his candy wrappers it's like

like he just slid a deer throw it over there. That package is beaten. Just practicing. That was impressive. But we had a load dropped in the wrong place. And when we confronted the driver, I was distracted because he had personal things going on. You have to overcome those. You have to do your job. You can't just blindly travel around. And that advert, the things you're going through over here will still be there. Yeah. You know, and you can't solve them by doing your job shitty that you're at.

You know, that doesn't get you any place. Oh, I don't have any money. I'm going to take a couple days off.

Well, that, you know, and think about it. Well, that, doesn't that just keep digging? You know, I, I, we, we've seen it over and over you guys. And, you know, we were, we were trying so hard not, not to make this podcast sound like it's bitching. I don't feel like it is. But, but you, you do go over the same thing. You know, we're just trying to reach, reach a different, reach you a different way. You know, we could send jam out with that knife and stab you.

Tell you what, he could, he'd hold it at that door window. Are you going to have a safe day? You better. You're going to have a safe day. I cut you. Make my day. Cut you. Turn that podcast on for me. The Salt Hall out of Utah, I got to give Potter a shout out. Yeah, props. If you guys want to know how it's done, he's knocking it out of the park. He's accomplished it every day. He sent an email on tips and tricks, kind of like Ray's thing, about what needs to be done. He doesn't speed.

We don't get alerts on him. We don't get following too close. We don't get anything. He just goes and knocks it out. Trucks, has a good attitude when you talk to him. Potter is doing an amazing job. And, you know, we've had, you know, we've had other drivers tell dispatch, you can't do this. I can't do this. And I can't do that. And yet Potter's doing it. You know, it's like, well, it can be done. It's not like everybody's struggling and, and it's, it's just not that hard.

And back to adversity, he, he, he, he set up a process like Jack or the other rock stars we have created it himself and, you know, might've taken him one or two trips, but he's got it down. He's knocking it out. Yep. And he, and I, and I'm sure he's not going to bed going, oh my God, what a day. I wanted to put him on my shout out and I forgot Jim. So thank you for bringing him up, man. Yeah.

Knocking it out of the park and the hall already. And Steady Eddie, Cadillac, and all the things we've named, he's doing it.

You know, and we've had a lot of controversy about, you know, staying in a motel and what motel and bunking with somebody. And can't we just overcome some adversity? Can't we just get through it? It is not about you. You know, if you served in the military, you peed and pooped with everybody, but there's no doors. You worked with 100 people and got it done. Yeah. So you can't serve in the military. You wouldn't serve your country because you can't sleep here.

And then we've heard such bad things about the hotel. Well, if you're one of those guys that have heard something about the hotel, go find out for yourself. Go check it out for yourself. Don't listen to somebody else. Find out. Maybe it was a bad experience for them. And then no matter what you do, and it always ends up this way, when you stay at the same place or you're doing the same thing, you make friends, people get to know you, they take care of you.

It becomes a better experience every time. You bet. You know, and it's just, how do we make it better? Just so... I do appreciate the last line, you know, how do we make running Utah just another day, not an obstacle, right? Right, Jim? I think it comes down to mindset, a lot of this stuff. You know, when we talk about facing overcoming and overcoming adversity, no matter how small or large, it all has to do with mindset.

If you don't have the mindset, you know, to some people it's just another day at work, other people it's a obstacle. Right. You know what I mean? like to me, I'm going trucking to you. Oh my God, I got to dump this load. It's going to be nuts. Yeah. And, and, and, and sorry, Dave, or go, or go ahead. No, I just wanted to bring up our creed, you know, every single person, Dave hires, he sets that creed in front of them along with the hat.

Well, he also asks them, what does that mean to you? Right. First line of that creed Together, we face and overcome all that stands before us. That's the first attitude you have to take with everything. Exactly. Right? It's not how I can't do something. It's not how we won't do this, how I'm not going to go there. It's how we face it, and it's how we overcome it. And then the second line is, together, we are accident-free. To me, you can leave out the whole rest. We don't need any more.

Yeah, you don't. The two. Right? The two, yeah. I mean, those two get a job done, right? Right. But of course, we want to create honest value for those we serve. We want to celebrate our differences and respect those with whom we work. All of those things are important to us. We also want to be accountable for our words and our actions. So, I mean, that we can live and die by that creed and it just, damn, it works.

You can live your life off that creed outside of JFW. I like it. I spoke with John Jordan at the fuel pump yesterday afternoon, and he and Samuel had to stop in the middle of the highway to chain up because traffic stopped on them. And they were moving along just fine until they were throwing this curveball and they had to stop and lost traction. And I was like, hey, John, I saw you guys had to stop in the middle of the road and chain up.

He's like, yeah, that was fine. We just got it done. We had to. I mean, we had to. I mean, it was like that was the cards that were dealt. And he goes, you know, we just got out there and threw some iron and they were chained up for like a hundred yards because they got to the, I've done that on the past when I was pulling the fuel tanker. I was like, well, how was the trip? And he was like, it was awesome. Nice. He goes, I enjoyed the drive. I enjoyed the scenery. I would do it every day.

So his mindset, we're talking mindset here. Yeah. His mindset was positive. his mindset was excited to go somewhere new and different and beautiful scenery and a life experience for that ride. And the person that has the mindset of like, oh my God, I'm stuck in the middle of the road. I got to get out and chain. You know, that's what drags it right down the rabbit hole.

And we can all avoid that. And I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in my high road hauling today so funny thing about john jordan is he sent me a picture the day before of a tire chained up and it said how did i do my first time chaining i said it looks good to me just missing the smell and we said well i figured i would practice first so good for him coming down here on a sunday right he was coincidentally the day before he had to chain right yeah yeah So nice job, John.

And you know, the funny thing about this, and it could just be, even though we got lots of loads to haul, he may not hit another storm the rest of the year. Oh, right. You know what I mean? He practiced, did it, and then not do it. You know, Sam Diaz was along with him. Those two guys probably bonded in those training moments. Absolutely. You know, like, man, they'll talk if they're both here like three years from now, like, man, remember that first storm we went through together?

But it's funny, too, and this is going to sound negative, but I don't care. So we've had it where drivers are driving. It's like the chain was up. Oh, better stop. And it just reminds me of a cow getting to a fence and they're all just standing there at the fence, looking at him to the next field because there's a, you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. But there's also, Jim, there's nothing like you talk about the

two guys bonding and they'll tell that story, but overcoming adversity with somebody. Right. I mean, creates a bond of a lifetime. Yeah. You know, working with you and Scooby and straightening that guardrail. Those are things I'll remember. But that's adversity to me that I don't know how it's going to turn out. Yeah, that's a good day at work. Yeah. What'd you do today? Sat at my computer and figured this shit out. No, what'd you do today?

Oh, me, Jim, and Scooby, we straightened out this piece of metal that had four S-curves in it. And it mounted right up like that's something we'll talk about. Scooby and Casey had to get up at 2 o'clock in the morning and go install 50 miles up the mountain. That we're hoping matched, right? Yes. Yeah. And not to mention, come down on a Sunday and get the skidster loaded on the train and all that. I mean, that's the adversity. They faced and overcome all that stood before them.

Well, we could just get right into that, and we'll skip over a couple and go back. Are you done with the overcoming adversity, Jim? I just have a little comment to say about that, Jim. And Jim and I, I can't say we speak to the group about it all the time, but we've used a term for years, and it's more business-related, but it's life as well. If you're not growing, you're dying. Mm-hmm. Right. These other runs that you'll have a driver go, I'm not going to go do that. I don't want to go do that.

They're dying. Right. If, if you're not going and challenging yourself and trying to do something different, you're not growing. Right. That's part of being a human being. We're asking you to pick up the ax and swing at the wood with us, not just stand there and look at the ax. Right.

Participate. You, you're either growing or dying. and and when you stop challenging yourself when you stop doing those things probably not going to have a successful path you're going down in front of you so i guess i want to throw that out there you're either growing or dying so we want we want people that are that are not dying yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah i was going to use a word but it's related to something else i'm afraid it'd

be taken out of context oh yeah they not do that we need people growing here and pushing their limits, right? Learning something new. Yeah. Think about that, Dave. That's one thing I liked about wheeling is taking your vehicle and the challenges of that and trying to get that obstacle and not get stuck and stuff like that. But the only thing I was like, well, where I'm dying is, man, my fear of heights. I just can't. They're like, no, I'm out. I'm dying right here.

Right I can't do it But the challenges of growing Dave is Yeah, yeah If you're not, you're dying Good point Yep, Yep, we got to do it. Well, let's just talk about the aftermath of hitting that scale up at Young's Ranch. We kind of touched on it. I just want to make sure we hit all points. So, again, to that driver, it was his mess up, right? Probably a good person, right? Didn't mean to do it. Didn't wake up and say, hey, I'm going to cause havoc on this scale today. But he hit the scale.

From there, Scooby and Casey had to go up and remove the bumper rail on Friday, right? After the pit was closed. After the pit was closed. Right. We got to do all those after hours, right? They don't want the guardrail removed from their scale for safety. Yeah. And it was the first storm of the year up there. Yeah. Because if there's no guardrail there to hit, guess what? You're driving off the scale. Yeah. So couldn't let people on the scale without the rail on there. So after hours.

So they're straight in the rail on Saturday. We already talked about that. And then Casey coming on Sunday to load the skid stand to prep for the repair. Then scooby and casey starting at 2 30 a.m monday morning to get the rail put back on before the work day starts so a lot of things happen there like you said if if we had to buy that piece of metal probably be five grand to buy that bumper rail and then to mobilize people and get it.

Installed and do all those things i mean it adds up quick and things aren't getting cheaper they get more expensive oh absolutely so not to mention when they were up there at the crack of them so it wasn't just a beautiful morning it was crap i also want to say that i you know i hope in my heart it sounds like it through through scooby hearing what he had to say but they were pretty impressed we went up there that we fixed the rail that you know we've we've attempted to already make it

safer with the flags that we've installed on the on the rails and you know we're trying to do we excuse me to interrupt we did that prior yeah yeah flags that was proactive yeah now after this morning because scooby's up there moving equipment with the low boy we've actually purchased some solar reflective led led flashing strobe lights high dollar that are on the ends of the scales now to even invade in the dark yes so it's like hello hello wake up wake up i'm right here follow

jfw's procedures stop roll down your windows look and make sure your trailer is going to follow. Drive straight on the scale, let's do a good job. That's the JFW I'm proud to work for, though. The one where other companies are impressed by it. Like, wow, you know what? JFW, you know, they hit the scale, but man, they mobilized, they fixed it, they took care of it, you know, everything's- Right. They put it back to the way it was, or as close to the way it was as possible.

Yeah. You know, we took responsibility for what we did. I mean, you always hear that, right, Jam? It's not that you screwed something up, it's that you fixed it. Right. Right? Right. And how, and yeah. Yeah. It's not the mistake you make. It's how you handle it. Yes. Yeah. And, and that's funny. I got a, just popped in my head to you guys that, like I said, we had a good lunch with Jason and Garrett yesterday from Brannon and we always kind of somewhere through the lunch we're like,

Hey, what can we do for you? What have you heard? What, what can we fix? How can we be better? Same thing. We, we asked you guys to do and, and Jason immediately said, haven't heard a word. Haven't heard anything on you guys. Everything's good. And, you know, Jason's in the position when he hears about it, something's going on. That's not, you know, it's, it's, it's not good. Cause it's made it to the top. It's made it, it's made it to the top super Dave, but.

Sometimes cream doesn't float, but turds do. Right. Right. But you want to know the funny thing to that is it wasn't 15 minutes before that. They said, how's it going to us? And we're like, oh, we've, we've been busy, you know, we hit the scale, you know, and we had to fix that. And Jason goes, I heard about that. You know, he didn't hear anything bad about us and he didn't, and he didn't, you know, he had nothing for us to fix.

Everything was good, but he did hit the, heard that we hit the scale. Wow. You know, and I know, and I heard we fixed it too, right? We did. Well, hopefully. I hope so, yeah. Did they? Right. Or did that make it to the top? That's true. You know, bad news travels way faster than good news. Absolutely. It's easy to be on that low road. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. I want to talk about the insurance fleet cards. They are good for all of our equipment, right? So whether you're driving your tractor, your trailer, if you need to produce an insurance card, it should say fleet card on it. It's not going to have a VIN number on it. It's just good for all of our equipment. So the trailers don't have a separate one from the tractors. Yeah.

To me, Jim, I would like to see that, even though it's a fleet card, in both vehicles, in case somebody changes trailers. But in case they change trailers and they don't have their card, it's in the trailer. Sure. Then we're double covered. Yeah. Yeah. They should be in the tube as well. Yeah, it should be. But it doesn't have to be vehicle specific. Right. It's going to be the same card. Yeah. To explain, all of the insurance cards in the past had the VIN number of the

vehicle listed on the card. And this does not, this just says fleet card. Exactly. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I bet I. Really good, actually. I beg you, that's a strong word. But I mean, if you were at yard 23, you got your vehicle, you had to change trucks or whatever. You inspected that truck. It didn't have a fleet card. You knew, I don't know, TNT is sitting there. Go over to TNT and grab its fleet card and run with that for the day.

That works. or go over to the low boy that's sitting there and grab that. Or ask us for one. Or ask, but, you know, just to overcome that. But then you've got to say something to somebody. Right. You know, you've got to get with somebody and get it fixed. Right. But that's what's nice about just having a fleet card. Yeah, it does make it easier, especially when you're handing them out. Yes. You don't have to match anything. Yeah.

And then the trailer registrations, they never expire. They are good forever. Yes. You know, so if you're looking at your trail registration, don't expect to find one with an expiration date. Yeah, I think the older ones, so people would get the hint that they didn't expire. I think, Jam, they had 999 on them or something. The later ones we bought because Idaho had some trouble with, well, what does 999 mean? Well, it's not year 999.

You know, that's what that means. It doesn't expire. They started putting on their non-expiring. Right.

Tinted windows, how dark is too dark? Well, I got to spit out is from the factory, they have a tint in them, which is barely legal. Anything you put on that window makes those windows illegal. Just so everybody, doesn't matter. You can't take the stock tint, and I know the window doesn't look tinted. You can't take that stock window, put anything on it, and it's not illegal.

It's out of compliance. yep yep so in any tint is illegal right right we've had this discussion before we've said you can tint the windows if you want but it is your ticket yep right well we've seen a couple windows come through here that they're freaking limo tint yeah i mean when you drive pat you don't even see a body inside there's no reflection there's no outline there's no they're dark that's too dark that's too dark to see out of when you're getting on a scale that's for sure right

if you don't roll your windows down you got a problem yeah i don't like that dark maybe it's my age i don't know i just i can't do it i don't like it anymore you know i like a little tent you know like on my pickup that's about as dark as i want to go but even driving my pickup i find myself rolling my windows down to cross intersections i hate sometimes yeah i roll mine down a lot you know back into my driveway like you know it's like yeah and i don't i couldn't

tell you the percentage of the tint, but I just like on a vehicle that the front window matches your back window. So when I had my pickup tinted or, you know, I would go, hey, I don't want it dark. I just want it to match that. That's what I think to look better. And it's too dark. I mean, it's hard to see at night. So use some good judgment on that. I know it looks cool. I know it looks cool to have super dark windows, but yeah, roll down the windows or lighten up your tent.

That's a good reason to be stopped too. Easy pickings. Yeah. That's an easy way to get pulled over. Used to be enforced a lot. We were getting targeted and what state was that? Oh, Texas. Texas. Yeah. Texas was killing us. 100% illegal. If we ever go to Texas, man, you can't have tinted windows, period. Yeah. And they don't, they give you a ticket and make you strip it. Yeah. I told Potter the story, Jim, and he was going to Texas, I don't know, was it last year?

I think so, yeah. I think he was last year anyway. He went and peeled his tent off. He goes, it's okay, Super Dave. I'll just take it off. So, yeah, proactive again. Good job, Fodder. I saw a road truck the other day and, you know, you see a lot of crazy stuff on tent on side windows. You know, I've seen like this net thing that they hang on the inside of the window. And, you know, we, we've actually had to have conversations with drivers.

You know, we had somebody hanging a safety vest, you know, cause the, the sun was in their eyes, the glare or whatnot. But anyway, this guy took a piece of tint and I've seen him tint the top half, right? He tinted the back half of the window, like straight down the center of the window, just the back half. So when he would look at the mirror, the mirror was not tinted, right? He wasn't looking through tinted window.

But when he looked out the side, like directly against his shoulder, the back half of the window was tinted. Or he could lean back a little bit and get out of the sun. Yeah. And I was like, wow, is that legal? No. I mean, that would be a – yeah, I agree, Jam. It's probably not. Yeah. Is it covering 50% or whatever? But at least it's safer. I do believe it's safer. Works for him, right? Yeah.

Just never seen that before. It was very unique. Hey, everybody. It's time to start checking and paying attention to the weather so you know what you're getting into. That's something that you should be looking at every day right now. We already had some snow. If you're driving and you have no idea what you're heading into, I'd rather know I'm going into a storm than be found in a storm. Yep. Yeah, gloves and coveralls for another coat. Yeah, Ray's going to talk about that.

And then with our low temps that we've been receiving in the morning, we have low tire pressures. You got to wait for that strobe light to go off for your trailer. Don't leave the yard with that light flashing because if you truly do have a flat, it's a lot easier for us to fix that here in the yard than to have to make a service call. Yep. And then pulling away from the pile before you drop in your trailer, that's trending right now.

There's been uh some pictures sent to me over by plan 12 clean out area of some you know decent piles that were left in the trailer seriously yeah not not tons jim you know not like a one ton pile but like something that would fall out of the box if you pulled away from the pile correctly, yes yeah you know a couple wheel barrels yeah you know like two two wheel barrels full of material and all that is is you're too close to the pile when

you're letting your trailer down so the tail the the rear of the trailer is actually scooping the rest of that material back out or it's just never come out worst thing you could do on our liners and yeah that'll push it under the liner so you gotta pull away gotta pull away make sure you see daylight under your mud flaps then put your trailer down. Pull your Johnny bar and put your trailer down. Right. Don't let it roll backwards into the pile. Good. Yeah.

But yeah, see the daylight underneath your mud flaps. Absolutely. Yes. Yes, absolutely. That way you know it's empty. Yeah. Yeah. And to do that, you got to look out the back window. Yeah. And hone your craft, get good at your skill, do your job. Yeah. Here's the thing. I've done that before. When I was driving, I've done that. And when I see that material stuck in the trailer, guess what I do? I go back to the pile and dump it out. Exactly, Jim.

I was waiting for you to finish, Jim, but if you buy a pizza, how many times have we used this analogy, and you show up and the delivery guy says, hey, thanks, I had a piece on the way. Right. Right? You paid for that whole pizza. You want that whole pizza. That customer wants all their material. Absolutely. You may think it's just a wheelbarrow full out of a trailer load. Yeah. They paid for it. You didn't. You're basically stealing from them. Yeah.

Yep. Yep. That's the difference between a professional and unprofessional. Yeah. I mean, the, the whole like honing your craft, I mean, I don't, you know, we had some trailers that would get war in and I didn't like pulling off the pile and letting the tailgate slam or it was early in the morning or, you know, you were standing right by somebody. And, and then, you know, sometimes it was a competition between all of us. How, how tight can we make these piles? Sure.

And you just, you just pull away really slowly. So the tailgate, you'd watch the pile just barely move as the tailgate slid off and that's where you'd stop. And then you wouldn't, didn't want the snail trails on your mud flaps. So you let it down. You knew you were clear, but that pile was high and tight. It was perfect. Call that a good dump. Yep. Good dump. And where, where, where's that pride? Where's that pride?

You know, and now we're telling you, Hey, don't back so close to the pile because we can't afford the mud flaps we're ripping off. So yeah, it's a. Well, that's a two-mirror backup. Yeah. Right? You can't look in one mirror and back up. You need to see both. Both, yep. Right? So you know you're not backing up on something on the right side. Or until, man. Yep. Hey, and one thing I know, what do we got here left? Just the Toro about the tickets? Yep. I think that was a whole bear thing.

Reason bear came over was something to do with the tonnages and stuff.

But one thing I want to talk about is we had that first snowy day here, and everybody got on the radio and announced that the overweight permits were not eligible because we had rain adverse conditions and that's going to be up to the judgment of the state patrol so don't take a chance on on losing your overweight permit or having us all lose our you know our overweight permits don't do it it's unsafe the whole the whole bit so much to it but we had a question come up about loading in those

conditions and a thing thing about all that too is you know i'm a big proponent when it gets cold out landing gear back landing gear back because why do you want that material frozen the front of that trailer you're just going to have to shovel if it's up around the doghouse there's no liner the wind is blowing there all that kind of stuff but the question was as we were loading in fair play.

And one of the drivers said hey go ahead and put some in the front and everybody was kind of like well what about landing legs back and he's like well i gotta go over i don't know kenosha kenosha whatever, wherever. Yeah, Crow Hill. Yeah, Crow Hill, wherever all the snow was. And he goes, listen, I want some traction. I'm going to put some weight on my drives. And they're like, well, that'll be just stuck in the front, just stuck in the front.

And the driver's like, it's 50 degrees down in Denver. Nothing's going to freeze. Right. But this is the safest way to do that. And I guess the conversation with the other driver didn't go that well. It was like, well, mind your business, you know what, you know, whatever. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. and not. You drive roads, I drive mine. Right? And that's clearly not. That's not, that's the wrong attitude and the driver called us and goes, what do you guys think?

And we're like, absolutely, put some weight on the drives. Why would you drive through snow and not put some weight on the drives? Especially when you know it's not going to be froze. That's where I want it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So January, that's going to be a different story. Yeah, exactly. And even then I might take the chance of, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to take, you know, 26 tons. Okay. Cause I, I want a little bit of weight, but I'm not going to pack five

extra tons in the nose. Right. You know what I mean? That I got to show. So let me jump in here too. Let's paint another picture. What if it was a 25 degree day and it was snowing? You have to think of the lesser of two evils. Would I like to spend maybe a few extra minutes just knocking some frozen rock out of my trailer down at plant two? Or do I want to spin out in the middle of Crow Hill and have to try to chain up in the middle of the highway with cars trying to drive around me in the snow?

I would rather spend a couple extra minutes just chipping out some rock in front of the rock pile at plant two. You're spot on, Dave, because you've got 45,000 on your trailer and 20 on the tractor? Absolutely. It's not a good thing. And the same thing too, Dave, is we've been doing this enough years. You look at the whole thing, okay? Let's look what the temperature is back down in town where I'm going. That was one thing.

You know, let's say the temperature is 25 degrees. Am I assigned another load of rock? Right. Could be. Sure. Maybe I don't want to shovel it all out spotless. Can you ask for another load of rock? Can you ask for another load? Yeah, there's all the factors that go into knowing your job. Yeah, if I'm just loading at Morton, And driving to plant two, that's a different story for loading that fair play and driving to plant two, right? But do you think about that? Are you taking that into account?

Are you mastering your craft? That's what we're talking about through all this. And through all that, your number one thing, Dave, because I know you did it for over 30 years or I don't know how long you haven't been, 29, but you are accident free. You know, when somebody looks at you, you can go, I'm accident free.

I've done that for 29 years you can state that Dave and I know you can and that's because not that you cared about anybody else but your processes were perfect for all that time wow did you get that? I did Jim yeah I can barely read it can you read it better? I can read it so this just came from J.R. Mark Kubik. Mark Kubik must have been the officer that JR was dealing with on the accident. It is Officer Kubik, yeah. Yeah. So Mark says, I really appreciate your sentiment.

My traffic investigative partners and I were just talking about how much respect we have for your organization and how easy you are to work with. Reading people's comments on the PD's social media post yesterday, I felt bad as people were pretty ticked off at truckers who are generally careless. I don't feel that JFW should be lumped in with those guys without CDLs and who exceed limits. We appreciate the work you and your team does as well. Wow. That's from the police department. Wow.

So there's something you got to live up to, right? Right? Right? Right? Man, man, that's nice to hear, but we, that doesn't make the accent all right, you guys. No, not at all. Right? No. You know. I, just to dive into that, you guys, I mean, Mikey, he's a, he's a, I call him a war hero. He's never served in the military, but he's been at some of our, our, some of our battles.

He's bailed, he's bailed us both out. How many times? Countless. Too, too, too many to remember. Talk about dragging your best friend across the line, man. I'm sorry, what would you say, Mikey? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so he was up there yesterday at the scene. He goes to 99% of those that need any type of recovery because he's damn good at it. I mean, probably one of the best. And, you know, he shows up there, dealt with a tow company that we don't normally deal with.

And coincidentally, it was the same officer when we ran the other light on the other side. And the same officer when we got pushed on the off ramp into the median, no other people were involved, but we hit the median just down from that intersection and. The cop looked at Mike and he's like, this is a tough spot for you guys. You know, and Mike's like, it sure is. And, and he, he, he had sentiment towards Mike. He felt bad for us. You know what I mean? It wasn't, it wasn't like,

Hey, you guys are assholes. Why can't you get through this intersection? Everybody else does. Right. And I guess I kind of want to bring that up because rewind five years ago, that same area is where the woman ran out in front of us. And she was under COVID induced psychosis is what they said. And she tried to kill herself. And I can't remember that driver's name, but we, he did an outstanding job avoiding hitting her and killing her.

He still hit her, but she frogged from lane to lane as he was going back and forth stopping. And he, he barely hit her. She had to jump in front of the truck at the last minute to be hit. And, you know, Jam and I were on that scene and you know, you deal with enough of that. And I guess what I'm leading up to is, what is the significance with that area between, I guess I'll say, because I'm looking for a general area. On the south side, it's Bromley. On the north side, it's Road 4.

All the majority of our incidents are happening between bridge and Road 2, or 168, right? So we go over bridge when we're going north. I'm going to call it an S-curve, but it's the slightest of curves, right? You S through it to a degree, just barely. Then you come up to where the city of Brighton is building their new buildings there, where you turn into tractor supply, and then you have 168.

So what is in that area, you know, coming southbound or northbound, but coming southbound, you know, we were, we were north of 168 with that incident. So what, ah, what is that area? I guess, you know, here's, here's another highlight of JFW trying to help you be better. Slow down through that area. Wake up through that area, be prepared for what you're normally not prepared for in that area. You know, I've talked to drivers that they're like, I hate highway 85.

I hate highway 85. That's me. Well, CDOT's about to make some big under changes in that highway 85 corridor because it is so dangerous. It's too fast. And I don't have the exact areas, but I'm pretty sure they're going to do an overpass over 120th.

So that stop won't be there anymore. And I don't know if they're going to do one at 104th. I don't know if they can pull that off or if there's one north of there, but there's a whole repave and, and whole, there's a whole revamp coming through that whole area. I think 112th is, is in part of it and everything. I hate to say it. They should probably jump the speed limit to 55. Agreed. You know, once upon a time they did and they increased it again.

I couldn't believe it when they raised it. Right. Right. I mean, too much traffic, too much cross traffic. I mean, that happened to us yesterday and we weren't speeding. Right. We weren't speeding. You pointed that out earlier, but how many accidents do you see at these intersections? And most of those are caused because of speed. Yes. You know? Yep. And it would be easier to avoid if it was just slower, period. I guess that's my point. When I say slow down, it's slow down,

focus more, revamp your attention to that area. Right? Last thing on discussions. You guys good? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Please make sure your Toro tickets are in tons, not pounds. Okay.

So somewhere along the line, either, I don't know how it's happening, but the Toro tickets are entered as pounds instead of tons. There's a big difference between 25 pounds and 25 tons, right? Big difference, right? I mean, I think we should investigate that and just ask Toro, don't make that even possible. They, they, well, I don't know if they told them not to make it possible, like get rid of that option, but they've been working with Toro. Okay, good.

I mean, I hope on our part, because I think what I don't think, I think it's been random. Like I'm making this up. I thought it's been random. That's when the guys try to fix it. And then it literally like, doesn't take the ticket. Gotcha. Gotcha. Right. Make sure it's in terms of. How confusing for our people. Yeah. That's a bummer. We need to, we need to fix that. We don't work in pounds. Why is that an option? Right.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then also make sure your tonnage you enter matches the tonnage on the tickets. All this has to do with us being paid the correct way and you being paid the correct way. So make sure your tickets are in tons and make sure they match what your ticket says. Also throwing it out there, if you're hauling out of like spec ag or something, those Martin Marietta tickets have metric tons listed on them. And why they do that, I have no idea because this is the USA.

I mean, what's the difference? But there is, yeah, you could. I loved hearing that, Dave. Where are we? The USA. One more time. The USA. I'm just going to sidetrack here. And what channel was the Monday night football game on that the Steelers, was that Sunday night or Monday night football? I know everything about football. You do. You do. Well, it was either the Sunday night or the Monday night game. So whatever station was carrying that. Yeah, it wasn't Monday night.

Like CBS or whoever carried that game. I think. Yeah. Trump showed up at that stadium and they, they, they, they broke and didn't put this live on there. The whole fricking stadium was chanting USA. Cause when he stood up and everybody figured out he was there, he started a fist bump and everybody would just started chanting you. And that whole fricking stadium was rocking USA, USA. I mean, it had to be 80,000 there in Pittsburgh chanting USA or whatever,

wherever they were at. I don't know if they were at Pittsburgh. I think they were. I'd be willing to bet they were at Pittsburgh because he's campaigning hard. Let him rescue Brandon. Right? Absolutely. Just a little political note, too, because me and Jam just... We re-watched it Saturday. But if you want to have a clue about Trump and you're not sure who to vote for, go back and watch the interview with Oprah from 1989.

Trump's on her show, and he predicts over 30 years ago what's happening right now, says he doesn't want to run for an office, but he cares so much about the United States and America that he would if he needed to. And it's what's come true. So watch that interview if anybody's got a question. And then I have to, I'm not arguing with you, Jim. But I want to joke with you a little bit because you, and I know what context you said it in, but you said we don't deal in pounds.

You know, we're in tons, but we have to know that we weigh 34,000 and we're, you know, 42,000 and we're not over 80,000. That's true. You know, I'm just like, man, we got to do all those conversions, don't we? We haul tons, not pounds. Right. No, yeah. It's not an argument. It's just kind of funny. That's so funny you point that out, Jim, because it's like, I hauled 52,000 pounds the other day.

What you mean 26 times but if you go 52 000 pounds you go i was 36 000 on my ankles you go you overweight right well yeah yeah nobody looked at me and was like i was 18 and a half tons on my listen you guys you guys know on the high roads you can only be 40 tons. You ever load up at guernsey wyoming or at granite canyon you have to order your load from the loader in pounds. Oh, wow. You won. Because it's 50,000. Yeah. Funny, Dave. Funny. Because they do it a little different up there.

Yeah. Only because you brought it up, Jim, we're down to 12 days and 16 hours before we vote. Before the election. Jump in there, early vote, go vote, got to vote. Well, and if you have your ballot, start looking at it now because I voted last night. I still got to turn it in today. And yeah, if you're not familiar with what's going on, it's going to take you a while to get through that stuff. I cheated last night, you know, just Googling stuff.

Came across this website called theprogressivevoters.com and I pretty much did the opposite of what was suggested on there.

Not everything was the opposite, but I looked at the ones that I knew, like who I wanted to vote for for president who i wanted to vote you know gabe evans you know i saw they were picking you know kamala and gabe evans opponent then i looked at 127 they were yes i know that's no i looked at kk the uh tax on the guns and ammunition they wanted yes i knew that was no and then i was like okay this is going to make it easy for

me and i just kind of did the opposite of what they wanted but it's really confusing because like the first proposition like g it sounds so great. Like, Hey, we're going to extend the homeowners or whatever it was, but basically increase the Tabor tax is what that boiled down to. And I originally have put yes. Cause it sounded good until I saw the progressives were voting. Yes. I'm like, there's more to this. And I started digging, seeing the word Tabor.

And as soon as I saw that of me i'm like anything they want to change with the tabor is bad so yeah take a look at that as far as what's next going on i didn't put everything down but i will tell you i will be gone from tomorrow until tuesday the 5th so that's what's next if you need to get a hold of me get a get all the jr instead because i will not have phone at this let's just have a week where jr or you aren't called for certain things.

Absolutely. And yeah, that would be good. That would be great.

And then tips and tricks from Ray Davis. Winter is here, and we have already seen snow. With that said, are you ready for the cold, the snow, and Mikey's still in shorts, killing it in the shop? We need to start popping our gates at the end of the day and making sure they are closed in the morning before leaving the yard. Draining your air tank's deli is all part of your job. Do you have a warm jacket and good winter gloves? A trick I like to use is wearing latex gloves under my work gloves.

What that does is block any wind or water on my hands to keep them warm and still be able to work with my hands. When we have a later start, come in a little earlier to get all the snow or ice out of your trailer. Make sure you use three points of contact always. It's slick in them trailers. I use one hand on the side of the trailer and the. Other on a broom or a shuffle.

I like to start from the rear and I work my way back. That way I don't have a giant pile of snow and possibly break your broom on pushing too much once. Remember, when it's freezing out, let your truck warm up. And when you're dumping that first load, don't rev that motor up to try to get the trailer to race faster. The hydraulic fluid is thick when it is cold. Let it go up on its own, not forcing it up. When hauling sand, make sure you spray your bed with release agent.

You can find the release agent on the south fence of the yard in the middle of the parking lot for the red yard. And at yard 23, you can find it by the wash pad if they're putting it in the same spot as last year. Also, remember, you don't have to dump or use a lot of release agent to make it work in your bed. A little goes a long way. That's great advice, right? I know you guys like that. Absolutely. Don't waste it.

Also, it's not better, right? It doesn't help. Yep. Also, when it's freezing out, you can ask for your material landing gear back so it doesn't freeze in your nose. If you have materials stuck and you know you're changing materials, you need to get that frozen material out. If you know it's going to warm up a little later, you can ask this batch to get the same material so that on your next load it will warm up enough to get it out.

Just remember, you will need to get a new tare weight and do ask for 26.5 tons again. I think do not ask for 20s because if you've got 1,000 pounds or stuff in there, do not ask. Do not ask. Think about how much material you have and take that from your 80,000 so you're not overweight. These are just some tips to get us thinking and get us ready for winter. Remember what you get when you cross a snowman and a shark, a frostbite. Wah, wah, wah. Good old Ray throwing in a dad joke.

Ray's got jokes. Big old tough Ray with the – yeah, it's great. Hope all is well with the JFW family, friends, and listeners. Remember, safety has no blind spot. Look and lean. Sit up in your stool. Don't be a fool. It's better to be slow and safe than it is to be sorry. Much love and respect always, Ray Ray, the Black Sheep, 0013. Good job, Ray Ray. Thanks, Ray. Will you guys just let him have 0013? No. Can we buy one more truck? No. So not that number. It's bad luck.

I don't believe in that jazz. You don't see it on elevators. No, you don't, do you? I mean, a billion-dollar building with 100 floors, there ain't no 13th floor, right? Superstitions.

Final thoughts, everybody? Oh, the high road hauling is your final thought, usually. That's what I meant. Sure. Well, this one's important because it ties in to your mindset and how just your way of thinking can completely change around any situation from positive to negative. This specifically touches on stress. There's a lot of stress in the world these days, whether it's from politics or war or traffic or any of these exterior issues. And I think that's the key. They're exterior issues.

So do you think your stress comes from within you or from everything that happens to you? Most of your stress comes from the way you respond, not the way life is. And when you adjust your thinking, all that extra stress is gone. There's a real opportunity in every difficult situation to understand yourself more deeply and also to improve your life. I encourage you to reflect on recent situations where you've felt let down, where life's outcomes were nowhere near as good as you expected.

Rather than focusing on the uncontrollable things that were, quote, done to you, consider instead your part in the way they went down. For example, perhaps your gut told you not to do something, but you did so anyway. Or maybe you were deceived by a second time that same person had let you down. And you wish you had let go of the relationship sooner. Or perhaps you weren't paying attention and ended up missing out on a great opportunity.

It's so easy to be negative when things go wrong or blame others for negative outcomes in your life. But do negativity and blame change anything for the better? No. Truth be told, the best time to be positive and take responsibility for your own peace of mind is when you don't feel like it. because that's when doing so can make the biggest difference.

No matter what the specifics of your troubled times are, taking a moment to look inward at what you could have done differently and how you could potentially avoid similar situations in the future can be a very healthy exercise. This is not to blame yourself or shame yourself, but simply to give you the opportunity to learn on a higher level from your experiences. It's about learning to choose the most effective response in a difficult or uncontrollable life situation.

It's about learning to think better so you can ultimately live better no matter what. The key is to realize no matter what happens next, you can choose your attitude and inner dialogue, which dictates pretty much everything else that happens next. Truly, the greatest weapon against stress is our ability to choose one thought over another. To train our minds to see the good in what we've got, even when it's far less than what we expected.

It's about choosing. Will I allow this to upset me? Will I choose to make this bad or good? Will I choose to stay or walk away? Will I choose to yell or whisper? Will I choose to react or take the time to respond? You can always choose a mindset that moves you forward, and doing so will help you change things from the inside out and ultimately allow you to grow beyond the struggles you can't control at this moment.

Here's a powerful question that will support you with a positive attitude adjustment when you need it most. Who would you be and what else would you see if you removed the thought that's bothering you? Think about it. Identify a specific thought that's troubling your mind lately. Then visualize how your life would be different if you removed this thought. Think, how would it change your outlook on your present life situation? What other possibilities and opportunities might you see?

And what else would you be able to accomplish, excuse me, accomplish with this shift in your focus? So take that into consideration the next time you're up against a difficult challenge or a difficult moment. And remember that it's your choice on how you think about it and how you react or act to that difficult situation that will dictate the things that happen next. And the quote this week, we cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used to create them by Albert Einstein.

So there you go. My final thoughts. I think that quote's in Stephen Covey, is that his name? It's in his book. Stephen Covey? Yeah, that one book. One quote that comes to mind though is that Mick used to say it a lot, you guys, if you're using the same thought it's insane or something. You remember that? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing every time and expecting different results. Yes, and that was Albert Einstein as well. Was it? Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, you can't do the same thing day in, day out and expect different results. I think it's a little longer version of that, but that's it. In that book, he also talks about you can't have the same mindset trying to solve a problem that you had when you created the problem. Then we need a different mindset on safety. Yeah. Time to change our mindset. Right. Who cares, Dave? Who cares? Go for it. Go faster. Go faster. Yeah, go faster and take chances like Stingray said. Yeah.

Be careful, Stingray. 10-4, I'll go fast, take chances. Final thoughts everywhere? Yeah, I just want to touch along the, I brought him up earlier, but Abraham Lincoln and, you know, the, today he would be diagnosed with, with a depression and, you know, work through that. And like I said earlier, they called it melancholy, but there were so many things about how he fought through his depression and, and his different, different situations.

You know, he said he, he applied humor, even though his melancholy would, would, would drip off of him sometimes. He would try to find joy and the joy he found was in reading and he was a voracious reader. And one of his historians said that they think because of his reading that led him to his great writing like the Gettysburg Address, having that education. But the little piece I want to read here is he would cultivate humility and faith.

And despite attaining the country's highest office, Abraham Lincoln had a sense of humility and did not have a problem with ego. He was open to learn from others and even appointed former adversaries to positions on his cabinet. Okay. And I think that's a good segment. And the reason I bring that up is because as truck drivers and as people, we should practice the humility is when somebody gives us a suggestion, even if they're an enemy, maybe we should learn from that.

You know, maybe we should take that. Maybe it's your failures that are causing somebody to try to teach you because they're worried about you. So the humility is a big deal. And then him being able to put adversaries in positions in his cabinet so he could learn from them. Smart guy. His humility allowed him to accept his own failures. That's where I'm getting or want to get my point across.

And not to be threatened by the success of others. So his moods were not affected by his own success or failures. Lincoln also used his faith to bolster him in times of hardship and depression. His belief in a higher power gave him the ability to let go when his sense of responsibility became too great. I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go.

Lincoln once said, my own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for that day. Wow. Yeah. That's something I could practice every day. Lincoln was a very, very unique person. He was. For him to be our leader at that moment in history, we are very lucky that he was. It's crazy. And it blows me away too, Jim, because I've read a few stories or articles, I should say, about Lincoln, that he suffered internally from depression and everything else.

And think about the stress that man had. The weight on his shoulders, the bloodiest conflict in our nation's history, the hundreds of thousands of people go into war, and yet he held it together. We need a Lincoln. Yeah, we do. Would people vote for him today, though? I mean, I know who would. Well, you know, the public was very divisive on him, even in his day. Amen. You know, he had a lot of detractors. Yes. Yeah.

I think, and I don't, because Trump sounds so stupid sometimes, but I'm just after what is the best for our country. Right. And I don't believe the Democrats or the people that are representing the Democrats have our best country in mind. That's my point politically. And, but, but go back and listen to that interview. Trump cares about the United States and cares about the people. And that's, that's my, my thing. Only because you're talking politics, Jim. We've pretty much kept it out of

the majority of the podcast. We did, we did. It was about safety. We are going to vote in 12 days and I added up 16 hours. So now it'll be less than that when this podcast goes out.

But anyway, with that said, I want to bring up the importance of voting and why we should vote because you had mentioned earlier and i know between you and i you've had a personal rant with me with the eggs and it it's infuriating jim and i guess i just want to clarify we the people did not vote on cage-free eggs and this is the importance of us voting for our current legislators the legislators of the house created house bill 20-1343 which is the one that the house passed here in colorado and

then the senate and it was overwhelming i didn't write down the numbers but i mean any bill that are democratic leaders here because they control the house and they control the senate and they control the state because of the governor.

Anything they want to make up they can pass yeah they don't need you yeah they don't need you to vote that's the that's the importance of us voting is to vote in responsible legislators I don't think anyone went to our legislators and said, hey, we need cage-free laws. And the reason I say that is because we're a follow-me state. And the reason we are a follow-me state is we just want to be California. Everybody says how California people came here and blah, blah, blah, blah.

Well, people land in every state, right? People move everywhere all the time. I do think tons of Californians moved here because California got so bad or expensive. Hence, it's happening here. But I guess when I say we're a follow me state, we followed California, Oregon, and Washington. Those were the first three states to have cage-free laws. Those are the bluest of blue states that there can be, right? Then Massachusetts, Michigan, Oregon, Nevada, and Utah.

We are the only eight states in the nation, eight out of 50 states that want cage-free. All of those states are blue with the exception of Nevada and Utah, and they bounce back and forth. Right? So I guess the importance of voting is who we put in office because we, the people, didn't ask for this, right? And then they bring up, oh, we need to lower the cost of housing and we need to lower the cost of this and we need to lower the cost of that. Well, you can't do it with your crazy ass laws.

We need less government, not more. Everything they create costs us more money. They create 500 to 700 new bills and laws and rules and regulations every year. That is more government. We do not need more government. Ronald Reagan in 1970, I don't even know what year it was, like 76, was on Johnny Carson. And Reagan made the comment, you know, if the government just went away for three weeks, would anybody notice?

Would anybody be hurt if the government went away? You know what's scary is the government is now our nation's largest employer and you want to growing business, you want to sway the vote. Oh my gosh. Fastest way to sway the vote is get your government people to vote. And what about all the, all the chicken farms? Oh, that they put out of business? Oh, absolutely. Right? Right. Small, small jobs. Yeah. Do you know why they house chickens?

Because they get eaten if they're free range. Exactly. They have to be housed, you know? And I don't know what type of cage they're in, but I mean, I'm sorry. I don't know. I I'm with you, Jim. I just want an egg. I want the health of my family above the life of that chicken. I'm sorry. It probably sounds terrible. Just like you said earlier, but I would much rather have cheap eggs than, I mean, what, what, what is the purpose of that chicken?

We bred that chicken and we housed it and we put it there for a reason. Yeah. Right. And it falls upon us or, you know, along with me, our, our, our people can't afford to buy eggs. They can't afford to live. So then you look at trying to raise the rates and. Yeah. If they're $26 a dozen, I can't afford that. Right, Jan? I mean, Jan, I don't even remember because Holly pulled it out of the, maybe it was $24, but it was, I know it was $24 or $26.

If it's not $6 or $7, it's too much. Yeah, and it was. Yeah, but it used to be $2. Right. Yeah. I mean, come on. And there was, there was, those, there was like three packages in the, in the deal. So I challenge you to please vote, please vote for responsible people that are going to share your opinions and, and represent you and your beliefs. What's not their agenda. Yeah. Not what's the best for you. Yes. Yes. And not what's the best for chickens. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, can I read that last?

I mean, I've read it to all you guys because it's been kind of my pet peeve. But Greg Fulton shared with us because he happens to live in Denver. I hope I can pull this up fast enough. You guys may need to jump in there. While you're talking about that, I'll mention vote no on 127, right, to prohibit mountain lion. Mountain lion. Yeah. That's a big no because they'll go after the mountain lions and then they go after something else after that. But the mountain lion population is not suffering.

There's plenty of mountain lions. We don't need to restrict that. Let the scientists and the people that know about that stuff maintain it. They give out a certain amount of those licenses a year because that's how they control the population. We don't need people from Boulder and Denver saying, oh, yeah. We shouldn't be hunting mountain lions. Right. And then the other one is KK. That's attacks on guns and ammunition. That's a bad one, too. I don't want to spend 25% on, on ammo. Yeah.

Yeah. Where you could, I mean, I could buy more ammo just while you're bringing it up. And I don't know the, the numbers or the letters or the propositions or anything, but if you live in Denver, please don't vote on banning the, the slaughterhouses because they. A side company, a finger of PETA from California has shown up here in Denver.

And they want to try and close the one, The only lamb supplier in Denver, right over here off I-70 in the Globeville neighborhood, that they've been there for 70 years. They've had Temple Grandin come in and design. Design the slaughtering processes. So the lamb aren't nervous, right? And they're taken care of. And she's the leading, I'll say scientist, even though she's not a scientist, but.

She's the leading expert. Yeah. Yeah, she's a teacher up at CSU and UNC, and I mean, she's, I'm going to use this term literally, she's the man, you know what I mean? And it's like $3 or $6 billion worth of economy that they add to the state. Yeah, $800 million right here in Denver, Jim, and I guess what's crazy about it is the people that work there, they're being told, oh, they're mistreating you, they're doing this, they're doing that. The employees finally got so involved

and they're like, wait a minute. They made their own commercial. Yeah. They're like, this isn't happening to us. We have second and third generation family members that have worked here because they supply us with insurance. They help us. They help our families. We have work year round. This is a great place to work. It's in our neighborhood. We don't have to travel elsewhere to do it. I mean, just all of these things.

So also, if you're in Denver, please, please, please vote no on any tax increase. You should never vote in a tax increase. Do not let them sucker you in that they're closing the hospital. Because it's bankrupt because they need more money. Yes, it may be bankrupt because they need more money. They're leaving out the part of all the illegals that they're taking care of and the homeless they're taking care of. And then this is, this is. They need more money because they run a shitty business. Yes.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely, Jim. And then this is the last one that I have in here. And I just, I can't believe, I mean, this, I can't believe this is on the ballot. And I have a picture of the ballot and it says city and county of Denver ballot measures. So this is a measure, right? This is a question and they're asking, shall the charter of the city and county of Denver be amended to remove the requirement that police officers and firefighters be United States citizens?

Do you guys really want a police officer or a firefighter? Working in the city of Denver for the city of Denver, taking care of you that isn't a U.S. Citizen. How did this even make the ballot? This is how crazy they are. Please, please, please vote. And vote with a purpose, please. So anyway, I'm out. My final thought is a quote that hit home a little bit. It made me look internally, but it's a really good quote. And it says, people who can't communicate think everything is an argument.

And what that means is when someone struggles to express themselves clearly or understand others' perspectives, they often misinterpret even casual conversations or simple statements as confrontational or antagonistic, leading them to perceive most interactions as potential arguments, even when that's not the intention. And that quote was from Daniel Shidiak spelled C-H-I-D-I-A-C.

I'm going to go with Shidiak glad you clarified that Jim but yeah you know next time you're having a conversation if you feel like you're putting your guard up ask yourself if you're communicating well that's a great one Jim I could use some help with that. And don't forget to like and subscribe to the Channel 23 podcast. Hit that follow button.

Also, don't forget to go back and listen to episode 72 to help find Amber's mom. Links to her story will be in today's show notes. And please, please, please be safe. Yeah, that part. We have to make an extraordinary effort. I wanted to jump in there, Jim, and say, plan how you're going to be safe. Yeah. All day, every day. Yep. In everything you're doing, be in the moment, be aware of where you're at.

Don't think of what you still need to do, right? Don't be distracted by your wife or your mom or whatever phone call you're on or whatever, right? You got to focus on it. You have a job to do. Yep. And you have to do it correct. Yeah, because maybe that creed right there, Dave, maybe we just need to put it up front. The, we are accent free. Maybe that needs to be the first one. Yeah. You know, I love, I love to, you know, we face and overcome all that stand

before us, but that, that safety is an issue. It is. It is. You know, and I know, I know we discussed that with. We, we did because you have to overcome one to create the safety. I know. You have to overcome everything to create the safety. That was our, you know, you've, you've got to overcome all of these obstacles to become safe. Yeah. Got to practice it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Just got to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You just got to do it. All right. Say the creed. Get on out.

Together we face and overcome all that stand before us. Together we are abstinent-free. Together we joyfully create honest value for those we serve. Together we celebrate our differences and respect those with whom we work. Together we are accountable for our words and our actions. Together we are a direct and a new family. Have a great rest of the week. Music. Breaker Breaker 23 anybody got a copy on that channel 23.