Episode 151 - Navigating Challenges with a Can-Do Attitude

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What's up, JFW family? Welcome back to the Channel 23 podcast. The purpose of this podcast is to reach out and touch the fleet, to engage and inform everyone with all things JFW. Man, it's feeling really awkward in here this morning. In the studio, we have Jim and Dave White, Super Dave, myself, and we got JR in the hot seat running the board today. In preparation for my hunting trip, JR's going to run the podcast, so he is taking over.

It's been 150 times I sat in a seat, so it feels really weird sitting over here. I bet. We're all comfortable. You're in the hot seat. DJ Jam in the house. It's weird not having the headphones on and hearing everything. But let's kick off with the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for from which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Father God, we thank you for the opportunity to go out and do some trucking today. We pray for the safety of our fleet, all their families, and all the other families and individuals we come across on the road today. We pray for patience and making good, safe decisions. We pray to be accident-free and that we all make it back to the comfort of our homes this evening. in. We pray for healing and 100% recovery for all of our family members that are ill.

No matter what, we trust you, God, and it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. As a reminder, anything you hear on today's podcast is just the men in this room's expressed opinions. Episode 150, a little bit of a climb, not where we want it to be, but we had 283 downloads. We are at 81.5 thousand total downloads, and we have 631 followers. Nice. That's awesome. It's been a little bit of a tough week on my diet. I've started this new plant-based meat diet.

You guys want to know what plant it's derived from? The animal that's been eating the plant you're eating? It comes from the meatpacking plant. There you go. All right. I'll go next then. Do you guys know what the difference is between a well-dressed man on a bike and, And a poorly dressed man on a tricycle. Oh, man. This is going back a few years. I remember this one. Yeah, re-tired, one tired, one's too tired or something like that.

Just a tire. Just a tire. Oh, a tire. A tire. Yes. Good one. I'm so close. Is that a joke or is those just riddles? Same difference. Yeah. I kind of have one that's similar to that. It's not really, it is kind of a riddle, I guess. Well, I don't know. It depends how you look at it. If a cougar is wearing a hearing aid, does that make her a deaf leopard? No. That's funny. A leopard is not a cougar. All right. Do you know what you call a cougar under 40?

No. A puma. Wow. Well, with football season upon us, you guys all know, like the Raiders logo has the guy with the patch on it and their, their little guy that runs out on the field has the patch on his eye. Do you guys know why they all have a patch on one eye? No. Even their people don't want to watch the Raiders play with both eyes. Oh, that's funny. Sorry, Raiders fans. There has to be some Raiders fans out there. I just offended a few.

Man, I've seen a meme of these cops had this Cowboys fan. Handcuffed and I said, they're not, they're not letting them leave. He's got to watch the rest of the game. That's funny. That's how the Bronco games have been last week. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The, the Cowboys have started off jam two. They're oh, and two, but blowouts. I mean, like, that's just not the Cowboy style. There's some upset fans. Yeah. I remember growing up. They're one and two. They won one game.

They won the first game and everybody was like, oh, they're going to be great. Or they've won one. Remember? Because Allie said how good they did. And then the last two have been blowouts. I think they won the first game. Huh? Was Tony Dorsett a Cowboy? Yes. That's like, you guys know I'm not a sports fan. I don't watch football. But when I used to watch football, I was like, Tony Dorsett, you know, Lawrence Taylor on the Giants. Like back then. Yeah. OJ Simpson.

OJ. Yeah. Back then the Cowboys were a threat. Right. America's team. Yeah. I can't remember what team he played for. It was kind of later, but. Yeah. Yeah. Mercury Morris just passed away. Yeah, he was a Dolphin. Wow, that name's not even familiar to me. He was on the undefeated Dolphins team. Yeah, late 70s, early 80s, Dave? Probably 70s. It was before I came to Colorado, so it was 70s. Lou Gastineau, Joe Klecko, those are the names I remember, like from the Jets.

He was on the Dolphins when I think Bob Greasy was the quarterback, Larry Zonka was the running back. They were good. Yeah, my high school would be Lyle Alzado, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, he even fought. Cancer. He did fight cancer. Right, who'd he fight in the ring at Mile High Stadium? Yeah, I can't. Oh, yeah. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Oh, Muhammad Ali. Yeah, he fought Muhammad Ali. Like a real fight? Muhammad Ali, yeah. In Mile High.

Like a real fight or like a spoof? A spoof, but they boxed. I mean, they, yeah. Like exhibition or something like that. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I remember Lyle Alzado was on some talk show when he, you know, he was talking about he had all these big cysts, you know, from all the steroid use and stuff like that. Wow, that's crazy. So, back to the dad jokes. I've got a few. I want to run them all by you because they're all pretty good. Wow. So, hope they're good anyway.

Why did the monkey fall from the tree? He missed the branch? No. No, because it was dead. At first I started thinking the tree was dead, but now I get it. I was going to go, oh, because he wanted to leave, but not that he was dead. Right to the point. Dark humor. What did the fish say when he swam into a wall? Blur. Damn, I forgot that was there. Damn, you're right. Damn, damn, damn. Now he's dead. Now he's dead. Okay, this one you might get. What do you call birds who stick together? Flock.

I thought it was birds of a feather. Velcroes. Oh, wow. Wow. Super Dave is bringing it this morning. I'm telling you, he's got the animal jokes today. That was a little bit dark humor on that first one.

Speaking of dark humor, what do you got? Well, I ain't got no dark humor, but yeah, you guys remember we were discussing Android phones, iPhones, their cameras, and we're taking pictures of the moon and all that. I was doing some research on how Android is so much better than iPhone. Anyhow, did you guys hear about the restaurant on the moon, the first one? Great food, no atmosphere. Heard about that place. Oh, funny. Oh, man. Moving on. Everybody went? All right. Celebrations. We got a big one.

Sorry, I don't have the stats, but Nat Bisignano and his wife had a baby girl on Sunday, the 22nd. Her name is Liliana Hope Bisignano. And yeah, we just don't know the pounds and the inches. So we can't judge her today. It's like we mentioned, those are the fighting stats, you know, in this corner. We have Liliana Hope. Beautiful name. Right? Great name. Congrats, you guys. Anniversaries, Tufu Yang hit four years this past Sunday. Oh, that's awesome. Happy anniversary, Tufu. Absolutely, Tufu.

Thanks for all you do for us, Tufu. That went quick. Silent warrior. And then George Pocketer hits two years tomorrow. Feels like he's been here four years, but happy anniversary, George. Yep, happy anniversary, George. Good job, George. Happy anniversary. He's a warrior. He's just not silent. He's just not silent. Yep, yep. I love George. We give George a super, super hard time. Right. It's because we love him so much. Yeah, because he's that guy you can do that

with. You can banter back and forth with George for sure. He came by the other day and I was like, George, it's so weird my mom hasn't called me. Don't do that, Jim. I'm missing my mom. Don't do that. Don't be like that, Jim. Don't be like that. Birthday. Craig Potts has a birthday today. And then Francis Tito has a birthday this Friday. Nice. Happy birthday, guys. Family birthday celebration.

Mikey's wife, Melissa Peterson, has a birthday today. and then OCL significant other Kimberly has a birthday tomorrow. Happy birthday, ladies. Happy birthday. Shout out. This shout out comes via Jonathan McKee from his daughter, Emmy. She just wanted to give a shout out to thank the brothers for allowing her to come by and to everyone at JFW for contributing to her candy fundraiser. She had an amazing time and is very thankful to everybody.

Man, she sold out like 30 minutes, right? Yeah, two days. Both times. It was a little longer than that. Oh, she came back another time? She came back on Friday. Okay. So she came Wednesday. Jonathan asked if she could set up, and he was running late. So we got his mom and then his daughter set up with a little table. And she's just so adorable. Right. Such a high spirit. You know what I mean? She started off with one box the first day, right? She had two boxes.

So she sold 60 bars the first day. Oh, no. No, 120. And then came back with two more boxes. Wow. I know Ray, he bought like 10 of them the second time he came in and, I wasn't doing so good on the sweet set. I was wondering why the other chocolate bars were missing off our desk. Oh yeah, JR bought five and I think I ate them all. Thanks JR. I was waiting for Scooby to say something because I bought 10 of them and I did eat one of them, but I put them in the freezer because I like

the chocolate frozen, but I hid them in his, I don't know, ice cream. What's his frozen? Popsicles. Yeah, his popsicle box. Yeah, so I'm waiting for him to say something. I'm like, whose chocolate is this? Well, what's so funny is yesterday I asked him because Chili Dog's daughter, Shama, Sammy, was here. And I said, hey, Scoob, you got any popsicles? He's like, no, but I got candy bars. That's awesome. So he knows they're there. Oh, too funny. He thinks they're there. He thinks there is.

And then I want to give a shout out to Paco, Tony Martinez, Coleman O'Mara, Rico Christensen. They're all coming in this Friday to help out. We have a lot of guys off. Those guys are off on leave because of either injuries or surgeries or birth of babies, stuff like that. And then Dan Hawk, he's also coming in on his day off just to help out on Fridays so we're not short. Nice. I mean, that's awesome. Yeah. Thank you, guys. We really appreciate that.

Yeah, Friday was going to be a rough day this week. Oh, yeah. Yep. Really was. What I want to know is do we pull it out of the ashes? Are we going to be okay?

I don't know. I don't know you guys text me let me know till we till we get the call outs right that morning right right well whatever it is it's gonna help yeah so you know just imagine not having those five guys so I'm hoping one of those guys can just go home that day and doesn't have to work right sure right yeah you know Coleman he's still injured he can't drive so he would just be riding with a trainee if we have one if we need one trainer could be freed up

and go go run a truck yeah you know and then i know dustin will help out with some training as well so thank you dustin, Yeah, I know you're off Friday. Does that start a hunting jam or not? You just have a day off. Well, the answer is, well, it's twofold. One is yes, the answer is really no, though. So I will be guiding a, it's called Special Youth Challenge Ministries. It's a faith-based group that takes special needs kids hunting in Flagler, Colorado.

So yes, I will be hunting, but it's not my hunting trip. But it's really cool.

The guns the rifles are set up on these sleds and they have a battery underneath it that runs up to a trigger mechanism the scope is a screen and then there's two switches thumb switches so the guide has to push his switch for the kid to push his to take the shot wow so it's really cool these guys are awesome motorized wheelchairs i've seen one of them from years back was on like tracks gets their track yes aren't those badass yeah you know yeah you know so really good good opportunity for these

kids to be able to go hunting colorado parks and wildlife actually gives them special tags they don't have to apply nice there's these special tags they don't have to have hunter safety even the first time they do it it's just to see if they even like it so it's just really set up in a nice way for these kids yeah what a great experience yeah yeah so that'll be friday saturday sunday and then the end of october is when i go on my hunt trip nice you know for And for some of those kids,

they might not even be able to get outdoors. Right. You know what I mean? So just, yeah, it's going to be one heck of an experience for them, I bet. Yeah. And it's not only physical stuff. I know one kid lost his dad this year and the mom's just struggling having some male role models in the kids life. Yeah. There's some mental health stuff going on there. Still trauma though, right, Jeff? Oh, yeah.

Or a disability. It's just different. Yeah. Trauma. Trauma, we could have a whole podcast on trauma. Yep. So. Appreciate you asking now. Yeah, good stuff. And then, let's see, any shout-outs from you guys before we move on? Yeah, I got a couple just right quick. Last week was Driver Appreciation Week, and I think it went pretty well. I know there was a lot of guys coming up and getting their gifts all week long and stuff.

But I just want to give a shout-out to Ann, Joanne, and Amber, I know isn't here, but they planned that for a long time, and Kathy. But you guys just rocked it with all the gifts. You took care of it. You didn't put any more, it's not a burden. I can't come up with a better word, but we didn't have to be involved, Dave, where it was something. It was just handled.

It was awesome. It was very nice. So definitely a shout out to Ann, Joanne, Amber, and Kathy for taking care of, you know, it's a lot of hard work to put all that together, you know, to do the driver appreciation week. So thank you guys for all your help. And then I see the downloads wasn't as much, Jam, but Scott and Joe, I had a couple people listen to the podcast, last week's podcast from CDL 303. They thought it was really good.

So I know we, I reached out and then Jam helped me with, I guess, some websites or some information. But I reached out to Great West and Flood and Pete with their training and stuff.

You know, we should have hit Greg Fulton up with that last night. I totally forgot about that. I know, because that was, yeah, but that was, I mean, I think it was Joe or Scott, he left it that it was so political that he just got dumped on politically at the CMCA, which is unfair. Well, yeah, and it's political in a different light. It's not. It was how they run their organization politically. Yeah, it's all we get a participation.

It was an opportunity for endorsement because of politics. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's a participation trophy. That's how the CMCA is run, is a participation trophy. Let's do the best for our people out there. No matter what, when it's about safety, it needs to be brought to the forefront. It needs to be priority. Yeah. Not, oh, we can't hurt anybody's feelings.

Jesus. So tired of that. Super Dave told me I had to watch out for BD this morning. I have a note up here about everything we learned from Yasmin Narvero, who's running for the State Board of Education. That's funny. When you learn about the rest of the world, Jim, it's like my little spot is pretty safe. It's the rest of the world that seems so crazy. Right. But your little spot is being pretty affected by the rest of the world. Yeah. Yeah. And yet. Especially our state is where I'm getting at.

I mean, I still, I've said it several times, but I mean, you look at Israel and all of that conflict compared to where we live and what we're going through is nothing. Right. Compared to, I mean, the whole, how ignorant I am, you guys, I know I'm getting off, but the cell phones and the pagers blowing up.

When I first seen that article or heard about that i thought it was fake me too jim yeah especially when they were mentioning thousands thousands like over 3 000 or something like i was like yeah and then right and then there's a whole news things and they're showing the phones and i'm like ah man so what i get what happened but what stops it from having that bomb in your phone right now jam right right and then just activating i mean the thing is

you guys there's kids that have been so indoctrinated in college they're supporting Hamas. They don't even understand what Hamas is doing on the other side of the world. And destroying innocent lives and people. LG, whatever it is for Hamas. And it's like, you guys realize they're your enemy, right? Right? Yeah. Could you imagine if they were? Women's rights in Hamas is nothing. Yeah. I mean, they would just kill them. They wouldn't think twice about it.

It's tough. Yeah. Tough world. Any other shout outs, guys? No, but good thing these are just our expressed opinions. Yeah.

All right. Well, let's get into the discussion. First thing on the list, toe pins and toe hooks. One does you no good without the other. Toe what? Toe hooks. JR, you had some experience with this this week. You want to discuss that? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. So basically we had one person get stuck over at Morton and this was, I believe, Monday. And lo and behold, they don't have their toe pin or their toe hooks or anything

in their cab. And it's part of pre-trip and post-trip. We're supposed to be checking to make sure we have that. I remember last year we went through all the trucks and every single one of them had it. I don't know what happened between then and now. I was just thinking that, JR. Yeah. Because where'd they go? Where does that go? Yeah. I mean, we even take them out of the trucks we're trading in. Yeah. We have a shelf full. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, like the shelf is about to collapse. I'm making it up and I'm going to use the name Bob, not meaning Bob, but Bob's F-150 looked good with it stuffed in the front bumper. I mean, is that where they're going? Right. How does that work? Yeah. So one thing I got to throw out there, you guys, is this is one of the areas they're going.

A lot of times when somebody gets out of a truck, maybe they quit or leave and somebody else comes in, we give the new person a new tool bag and I will find the old tool bag sitting on the stairs going up to the top and inside the bag is the tow hook. I have no idea where it came from, what truck it came from, who put it there and I just put it on the shelf. So that is one way that they do disappear.

Yeah, it's, it's, it just, I don't know. It's just one of those things where like brother Dave used to say, you got to be a boy scout, you know, be prepared, especially, you know, now that we're getting a little more moisture, the ground's going to soften up. How are you going to get out if you get stuck? Hopefully you're walking the job sites and you're not going into these areas, but unfortunately it did happen to us.

The loaders over at Morton created a new pathway in the hole, basically where they stockpile pea gravel, rock, all that kind of stuff.

And unfortunately the new route is a bit soft it hasn't been compacted enough so our driver got stuck didn't have a toe pin toe hook called another driver this was late afternoon so we barely had anybody up there had a driver coming down from ragsdale and we're like okay let's call that driver and see if he can help out he was happy to do it got into morton yeah i don't have my toe pin or toe hook either and you know it was a little frustrating because you're like oh my god I was like,

okay, that's something we should be having. We're two for two. Yeah. So that kind of led me or led us on a little campaign. I have a little checklist. I've been calling drivers, checking in with them. Do you have your tow pin, tow hook? And I know we're about to get into this, but also asking about their chains. Have you laid them out? And have you checked for broken links and things like that? Do you have your chain tightening tensioner tool?

Right. The key. The key. Yeah, it's not good enough to just look at the chain carrier and say, yeah, I got my chains because you don't know what condition they're in. You don't know, you know, anything. We do not. This is something Ron asked me, too, that we don't repair the chains. Those little temporary links just don't last. It's a weak spot in the chain. So if you do see that your chains are compromised, we will get you brand new chains.

I found it weird he took two chains off and they had bad links in them. How did they get on there? Well, Ron's been in that truck since it was brand new. We definitely just take the chains from the old trucks and put them on the new trucks. So they obviously weren't inspected. I guess my point is someone took those chains off somewhere off of a truck, right?

Knowing those links were broken, we hung them up. Right. Put them to go back and use instead of being a Boy Scout and going, these need to replace. Maybe it's March or April thinking, ah, well, we're not going to use these for six months. Yeah. So they just put them on just to have them on there. I don't know. Well, what I'm kind of getting a kick out of this is, you know, we're 25 days into September and the chain law has come up since September 1st. Right.

And we're almost at the end of September and I'm finding guys, oh, I haven't checked them yet. Sure. What are we doing? Especially with these Utah runs coming up. Right. Exactly. Well, the tow hook and pins for the tow hook are, and the chains both, but they're on the pre-trip, post-trip sheet. Yep. So obviously people are not going down the list and checking the boxes and actually doing their pre-trip or post-trip. Yeah. Yeah. Pencil, pencil whipping the DVAR. Pencil whipping. Yeah.

Goes back to just doing your job. Right. I like to be prepared. You know, I'll tell you what, when you're up on those mountains and it's snowing and it's dark and you don't have your, you know, things that you need to get out of there safely, it's a problem. Right. Absolutely, Dave. Yeah.

Yeah, because that's the next on the list, Dave. We might as well talk about it. It's coats, gloves. Yep. The boots. Even somebody even, you know, we asked the group about the podcast notes and somebody even brought up food and water. And absolutely, you should have something with you. Yep. You know, especially like you mentioned, JR, going on the Utah run that's supposed to stop, just have something with you, you know?

But man, in my pickup, I have, I have like three coats, four pairs of gloves, boots, you know, any of that stuff. And you just never know when you, when you might need it. That's like a Colorado thing though. Yeah. You know? Yeah, JR. All year round, you should have at least a coat or something in the back and. Absolutely. Always something stashed back there. Yeah. You know, just to, I mean, that might be just to help somebody else out that needs you.

You know, I mean, during the winter, I've pulled people out of ditches and helped people and I had a big coat to put on, you know, and get out and help. So, yeah. And most of our training is done in really good weather, just like we have right now. Yeah. It's great for training, obviously showing you how to put on the chains on the tires and all that. It's a, I guess per se, it's a controlled, it's a controlled environment, whether it's outside in sunny weather or it's inside the shop.

What we can't duplicate is the weather, you know, maybe you're in, in the middle of a blizzard or something like that. It's, you know, one inch per half hour or every hour, whatever it is. And, and the snow's adding up, you drop, you drop your cheat, your key chain, your tire chain key, whatever it is, and it's in the snow somewhere. Now you can't find it.

Yep. Yep. Absolutely. That was, that was a remark. The guys from, you know, CDL 303 made last week because their chaining video is in perfectly sunny, nice weather. And, you know, you're just asking now that, you know, the chain law has been in effect since September 1st, and a lot of people haven't checked their chains. You know, and I know you said you can't duplicate the weather, but now is the time to check your chains. It's not snowing. It's nice. It's easy.

They're not frozen. They're not frozen. They've got a big little chunk of ice. Yeah. And to get going, you've got to have them.

Well, right now, you don't have to have them. so check them yeah another thing to bring up to everybody when you take the chains off your hangers hang them up in a way that you know when you need to take them off you're all set you you pull them off you have the you know the hooks on the end are right there you know front and center that is going to save you so much time once you are on the side of the road oh absolutely no.

Yeah, knowing which, what side you're going to go to if you've set them up to where, hey, the first two chains you take off the rack are going to go to the passenger side and the next two chains are going to be on the driver's side. You got the cams basically facing the right way that they're supposed to or something like that. Yeah, you pick them out and you walk to the tire. You pick them off and you

walk to the tire. Yeah. Yeah. And just kind of going back a little bit to the tow pin and the tow hooks also is we got different trucks, you know, Peterbilts and Kenworths and Western Stars. I know the Western Stars have their tow hooks right behind the bumper on the passenger side under the hood. So great for them to have them there and they're easily accessible pretty much.

But as far as the Kenworths and the Petes, it's not enough to just see over at the passenger side and see, oh yeah, I got a tow pin. You got to make sure it's the right one because the Kenworths, I believe, are a little bit longer than the Peterbilts. Yes. Yeah, a little bit different. Yeah, just a hair. Yeah, same cab, different frame where they go in. So it's, it's, it's different.

Yeah. And, and Jr, I can't, man, I just can't imagine leaving, driving a truck all day without knowing I have a tow pin and tow hook. I mean, can you super Dave? I mean, it just, I mean, not knowing, knowing that I can be pulled out. I, I, I'm shocked you guys that we don't have them in the trucks. You know, that somebody's, somebody's driving without knowing they have them. I mean, that's, it's like knowing you got your wallet for the day.

Right. Absolutely. Being prepared. Driving around with no license. I even went so far, Jim, when I was running a rock trailer to have my own chain. Absolutely. Because the loader guys would say, sure, I can pull you out. You got a chain? Yeah. And you're like, yes, I do. Yeah. I think even for a regular road trip, like in my personal vehicle, it's not so much that I get nervous over a road trip, especially going over the mountains, but I'm more, I guess I don't want to forget something.

I, you know, double check, triple check, you know, my garage, my house, whatever. Do I have everything I need for this trip? You know, and then you're a hundred miles out and you're like, dang it, I forgot this or something, you know, and having that checklist that we provide for the trucks. I mean, that's what it's there for. So you don't forget. You can go down that checklist and be like, yep, I got this. I got this. I got this.

I don't think I have that. Let me double check that or whatever the case is. Yeah. I've never thought about it that way, JR, but here's your checklist for a trip. And yet it's called a post-trip and pre-trip. But I think that's the reason it gets pencil whipped because you're doing it every day. Yeah. You know what I mean? But it's preparation for your trip. It is. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sitting there thinking about the chains and having a truck that had two bad chains on it.

You know, JR had a water pump go out in his pickup like 30 days ago and he called me and I was like, oh, I'll just buzz out and give you a tow, right? I mean, I have a tow strap in my pickup, but I would never have a tow strap that's almost cut in half. Yeah. What am I going to tow with a tow strap that's almost cut in half? It's in, there's no cuts in it. It's in perfect condition, right?

I wouldn't have it if it was almost cut in half. I would throw it away and get another one, you know, or you, you, you make, you're the boy scout, right? You got to be prepared And I find it interesting how people just don't prepare, you know, and it makes, you know, we go back to exactly what we're talking about here. Is that a skill problem or is that a will problem? You know, we're giving you the skills, we're giving you the list, we're giving you the checks, we're giving you everything.

You just need to do it, you know? So it's, it's a will problem, you know? I think it's also in addition to maybe complacency or something where, you know, drivers see these brand new trucks, you know, great technology in them as far as braking power and all that. And they're like, oh, I don't need this or I don't need that. We can't get stuck. Yeah. Something like that.

And I find it funny because the other day when I was talking to the driver that got stuck, he's like, yeah, I put my four by four in, but it still won't get out. And yes, it was four by four. Yeah. But that, that again comes down to knowing your equipment, knowing what, knowing what each button that's in that truck does. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's crazy. You know, I got to piggyback Jim on the coats, gloves, hats, boots.

You mentioned it briefly, but those are as important as the chains themselves. Oh, absolutely. Because when you get out and you have to put those chains on, you're down in the snow, you're reaching behind your wheel and tire to get the insides hooked together. You are literally miserable if you don't have decent gloves and a pair of coveralls. The first time I ever chained, I had a heavy coat and I had gloves and everything, but they weren't waterproof.

Right. And I was soaking wet. And then you get inside the truck and you steam. The whole truck up so you can't see. Right. And you are literally wet for the whole rest of the trip. Yeah. I was just letting you finish, Dave. Yeah. If you could have some type of watertight outfit to put on, which I think is difficult and I hate layers. So I would always have a piece of cardboard I kept behind the seat, which isn't waterproof.

But I mean, a lot of times now, some of the stuff that does come is waterproof. Yeah. My Carhartts are waterproof. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot, there's so many options out there now, you know, just something to lay on so you're not in the water because you're just, you're going to be sopping wet, you know. That's right. There's nothing like driving 200 miles in wet jeans, you know. Yeah, or trying to put wet gloves on when you need to go back outside.

Yeah. And de-chain or chain down or actually, you know, if you're going over Eisenhower, you got to chain up going over one hill and sometimes take them right back off. Right. Chain up again going over Vail. Yeah. So leave your Speedos at home or put them on so you don't get your clothes wet. Depends how tough you're going to be. Naked chaining 101. Not good visuals. It'd be like the guy chasing the Cheetos down the ski slope in the commercial, right?

That'd be like the trucker version of Polar Challenge or something like that. Right. There you go. Too funny. How fast can you chain? Why? I have to admit, I've seen a truck driver outside trying to chain up with flip-flops on. Yep. So. Yep. That's a bit of a bad deal there. Yeah. Or a lot of exposed butt crack that. Yeah. It's pretty cold. I'd cover that up. Right? Yeah.

If it gets too windy, that's going to whistle. That's what they say about the Grand Canyon. Right. Looks like we're talking about some issues not stopping at stop signs. No California stops. I know we haven't talked about it and it hasn't been an issue for a while, but I know up at Wallstrom every now and then the state patrol will go up there and sit right at the stop sign.

Actually, they'll either sit to the left over in the restaurant parking lot and watch you not stop at the stop sign or they'll sit at the parking lot down a little ways to the right and just when they go, when you go past, they'll pull you in and, and ticket you for not stopping right there. And it's a stop sign stop, right? I'll bring it up at Coors. I mean, that was, that's been an issue at Coors before. So I'll just put that out there to refresh everyone's mind at Coors.

Speed limit and that stop sign is stop. You have to stop and not just stop. You have to stop and look both directions for that train, for the, for the tracks that are between the scale, the stops, or I'm sorry, the scale house and the can, you know, I mean that, that one set of tracks, that's difficult to see down because both directions, doesn't matter which way you're going. You have to look out the back window one direction and, and off to the left, the other direction.

And it doesn't matter which way you're going. If you're going in empty or coming out loaded, it's the same. You have a back window and because you're not perpendicular to to that track. Yeah, it's also the, I mean, Coors themselves have like three or four different cameras on that because when we've ran that stop sign. They have it. They have it. Yeah. They have you going forward, from the back, from the side. They know we ran the stop sign.

And I mean, luckily they've, we've been reactive enough. We haven't lost that contract. Yeah. Because that's how important it is. Right. And boy, doesn't it feel good the few times we've had problems up there to send them the video that we stopped. Yeah. It just feels so good. Like here, here's one of the night guys. Guys, they stopped seven times, all seven loads going in and out. Perfect. A hundred percent. Stop. Look. Go.

I mean, it needs to be a stop, look, go type move. Not, not just roll up there, stop and go. You've got to stop, look and go. Yeah. Possibly different trucks or different companies that look, maybe they're red like ours and they think it's us because we're in there every single day pretty much. Right. Yep. And I think it has a lot to do with perception as well. You know. Oh, absolutely. The truck looks way different when you're on the ground versus inside the truck too. Absolutely.

So, and one of those areas where I've been seeing those rolling stops a lot is over by LG Firestone, that stop sign before you turn going into the pit. Wow. I know there's two homes there. They've called Darlene. Darlene has called us as well and saying, hey, can you tell your drivers to make sure they're making a complete stop? Wow. And that's where, at least on my end, that's where I've been seeing more of the drivers doing the rolling stops.

Gotcha. And, you know, you see county roads. There's really not that much traffic. Is that at 26 and 15 just before you go in the pit? Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah, so a stop sign is a stop sign. Yeah. We got to make that. Yeah. And I think part of that problem also comes with, okay, what are we doing? Are we, something I've kind of noticed is we're, we're using more brakes than anything.

You'll see some of the guys, you know, some of the drivers doing 30, 25, whatever it is, and they get to the stop sign and you see that speed limit, it's still 20, 25. And then as soon as it gets a stop sign, it's down to like eight, nine, five or whatever it is. We're not letting the truck do its thing. We're not using the Jake brake. Oh, but it's on. Yeah, but you're not letting it do its work before you start getting on the service break. Yeah.

Yeah, JR, we just, me and Dave left to go get something the other day, parts or something, and we got 56 in Vasquez down here, and we're sitting to make the left. And you know how the, like if you come out of the other yard and you go to Vasquez, but you got those, what is that, four lanes all the way across there, and the one has to make the right, you know, to go back up 56? Yeah. And there's a big old road truck coming at us in the turn lane,

and it's a nice looking truck. You know, it's got all the chrome bumper straight, the whole bit. And I told Dave, I'm like, he's coming in pretty hot, isn't he? And Dave's like, yeah, he sure is. And he hits the corner and you hear the brakes come off. And then you hear him go, he's looking for a gear. He wasn't even in gear. Not even downshift. He was in neutral. Just let it go. Neutral the whole way.

He was looking for the gear once he made the corner. And I'm like, you got that big old badass good-looking truck, and you're... You're not using the full potential. He doesn't know how to drive it. You're not a good driver. Yeah, Dave, I just didn't want to say it. That's not a good driver. No. Skill problem or will problem? Yeah. Right? Yeah, and I'm like, man, we were admiring that truck and not in neutral.

I mean, that's like stopping at the stop sign. Is that a skill problem or a will problem? Yeah. I feel like that's like a trucker, a real trucker's pride is to use every single- Everything. Everything on that truck to help you. Right, absolutely. Absolutely. And something I learned about the, you know, the CDL 303 is how Jake brakes are your long-term brake. Those are the ones that are going to last however long you use them, right?

Absolutely. And a service brake is only good for what? One brake application at 60 miles per hour for. Yeah. 312 feet or whatever it was, JR. Yeah. And then it starts losing its potential from there as it starts heating up. Yeah. Yeah. It says it right in the driver's manual, the whole bit, owner's manual, all of that.

And, and the Jake never wears out. Yeah. It never wears out. It may take some adjustment, which is, you know, a complicated engine thing, but it never wears out, you know, and it, and it just, it, it's forever. Right. And as a driver, you should know, you know, Jake brakes are a little bit different on every truck, you know, some are stronger, some are weaker, but you should know as a driver, okay, I need this much distance for the Jake brake to do its job. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Certainly doesn't do its job at a hundred percent if we're only 10 feet away from a stop. Yeah. There you go, JR. Yeah. Yeah. I use my jakes just before I stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not good. Not good. Well, we unfortunately have hit the scale at Young Ranch. And something I noticed on that is we did not stop before getting on the scale. That is the next subject here. I, yeah. Sorry, JR, I interrupted you, buddy. No, it's, it's, it's one of those where you're kind of speechless.

You're like, ah, that's, I don't know, JFW 101 to get on the scale. You stop and make sure you're centered before you actually get on. You know, I personally haven't been in that pit, but I've, I've asked the question, is there anything we can put on that scale or at that scale to help us? And after seeing the video, I mean, we, aside from the big guardrails that we have to navigate, right? Yeah.

It'd be nice to have a flag or something that stood up. Like if we drilled a hole in the top of that pipe, so it stood up and, you know, as you're getting that close to it, that it disappears in the hood, you at least should know you're clearing it. But still, yeah. I mean, we, we navigate these rigs all day long in between lanes.

We should be able to navigate it to get on a scale. And I, and I agree that is a tight that, that when that pit was set up, it was not designed well to have trucks pull on that scale. So I am happy because that is the tear scale, right, JR? Correct. And so. We don't have to tear anymore except for once a week. Right, right. So. They're still working the gimmicks on that apparently, but yes, that is the goal. Well, they announced it. They announced it this morning. Oh,

really? Okay, perfect. Yeah. It's awesome. So we're. We could avoid it once or four days out of the week or whatever. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It was mentioned earlier. I don't know if it's a good spot for it, but, but this, the, the scale incident is a good spot for it.

We, we had a backing accident yesterday and you know, the, the driver felt really bad about it, but to start with, I think they had the confidence to be able to back it in there when all we had to do was ask for a piece of equipment to be moved. And I think it's the same thing in this scale incidents. And one of the safety guys talked about when you're in that truck, you have a driver's ego. And I think that might be, you know, I'd like to use that a little more over

and over that it's your ego that's getting you in trouble. Like, oh, I know I can back in here. I can do it. It's the challenge when just get out and, and ask them to move the loader or, or in this incident, you know, we talk about it over and over about stopping before you get on the scale. Was it the ego that's driving you not, not to stop? I have this, I can do this, but you don't. You know, is that the mindset? Because what stops you from just stopping?

You know, we're going, hey, can you move the loader? You know, I guess if you've done everything and you couldn't get the loader to move in this backing ass thing or something like that, then you might attempt it, but you should attempt it with a spotter. Yeah. You know, there has to be, there has to be at some point, you guys, where we, where we eliminate the failures. We have to, we have to stop that. I don't know. I mean, I don't have all the details except that nobody's heard.

I might as well say it, but I know we just had an accident. Jam had to leave the podcast to go to the accident. And I understand it's a, it's looks like a blind spot accident in a pit maneuver is what the details and not everything's come across. And there again, that's, we've had this campaign. We have the bracelets on. Is that the, is that the ego that I can do it? Or, or, you know, I know you've talked several times, Dave, the will and the skill.

Well, is that, is that, cause I just don't want to say stupidity. Well, Jim, I mean, you're sitting there and I'm trying to find the words for ego because I didn't answer that email because I don't have the words and I don't have the words now, but I don't buy ego. I just don't buy ego. I would say overconfidence.

Pride. Well, that, you know, overconfidence is an I mean, pride and ego is the same to me as they think asking to move a truck or move a loader is like failing. And it's not. It's the safe way to do it. Exactly, Dave. It's the safe way to do it. Why? We talk about why put yourself in harm's way. So we have to have a safe ego, not a, not a crash him up ego. That's right. I guess so. I mean, where we hit that pickup, we were backing around a curve and we hit it in the, in the.

I'll call it the blind side. Yeah. You know what I mean? There is no way on God's green earth you could see where that trailer was at. No. The corner of the trailer, the driver could not see it. So he was backing. It was on a curve, right? Yeah. The trailer disappeared on him on that side. Yeah. There's no way to see it, JR. It's freaking impossible. We have the goal stickers. Get out and look. We've tried to do everything to take ego out of it. So I guess,

you know, I, I, I refrained to answer the email and only because you keep bringing it up. Jim is that. I don't, I was looking, I'm looking for something. Cause how do we. I have an ego, but I have an ego not to fucking crash. How do we do, how do we make a change? You know, we keep asking. And then I believe the driver and, and he owned it. He felt bad. He's the, I mean, there's no, there's no excuses, but he's the one that took the picture of where he was backing up at.

Yeah. Cause nobody else went down there. That was the eye opener. Wasn't it? You look at the picture and you're like, why didn't you ask the loader? I wouldn't make that. I wouldn't try to. Right. You know, I just, I couldn't. So I guess that's where. And around the corner on top of that. So I guess that's where I'm going with that's not ego. Yeah. That was not ego.

I don't believe that was a trucker's ego. Maybe, maybe a, cause what I took from that email was he had the gut feeling, you know, and, and how many times do I always say, if you have a gut feeling, get out and look and go tell somebody, call somebody something. Right. And you, most of the time, your gut's telling you something, you know, and you got to listen to it. Well, you got to listen to your gut. You have to look at your mirror and realize

that as a company, we've put goal stickers on everyone's mirrors. Get out and look. You have to look at your wrist because I hope to God everyone's wearing their bracelet that says safety has no blind spots. Is that a blind spot you were just backing yourself into? Absolutely. If the loader was moved, it would have been a hundred percent open. You wouldn't even had to turn. Right. You would have known you had all this room. There was no, there was no guess

to it, you know? And I guess I keep thinking to myself, what, what, how many more steps can we ask for to be done in these situations? How many more? Yeah. I mean, we're, we're, we're back to, to bitching you guys, but it's like the toe hooks and toe pins. Yeah. How do you leave the yard and not know you can't be pulled out? Right. Yeah. You know, I mean, luckily, luckily our job is defined on, on mostly a plant or concrete, you know, can't, can't get stuck.

Something. And I know our jobs have changed through the years, but we still do, you know, golf course deliveries, you know, and the, the, the, the job site delivery that we did that we backed in the car, that was, that was a new location. And that's, that's something we don't, we don't deal with that often. I mean, if people haven't noticed, it's been a slow year. We've taken on all sorts of other work. I mean, we were hauling contaminated material out of a job site to a dump last week.

We're delivering material back to that job site out of a pit to that site. We're, you know, this job site, we were picking up concrete in a neighborhood for a tear out company and a concrete company. I mean, we're doing things that we haven't done for three or four years, but we've still trained you. You know, that sticker is still on the mirror. Get out and look. You know, hopefully that bracelet is still on your wrist to change lanes like, like your family is next to you.

You know, all of these things that we continue to talk about, right. We continue to, to preach, you know, it's exactly what this podcast is about. Yet here we are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the, the, yeah, the, just the safety aspects of it is just so incredible and we can't seem to get past that. Right. Just disheartening a little bit. You know, and yet I, I, I gotta throw it out there. We, we talk about it all the time.

You know, we went through the gate 5,000 times and we hit it once, you know, but that's, she would like to eliminate that one time. Right. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Just again, I mean, gut feelings, listen to it, you know, stop. And there, there's that word we always repeat, just stop and call somebody, you know, let somebody know, don't be afraid to talk to the people on the job site and get them to move some equipment for you.

Nobody's got anything to prove here, but he's got a CDL. It's not a failure. It's doing it safely or doing it the right way. Or I mean, even though if you think, oh, I can do it, I can do it. I know I can do it. You know, don't push it. This is funny, JR. So Jackie went to bed a little earlier last night. I was up loading the camper and doing some stuff, getting ready for my trip this weekend. And so I sat down on the couch and I'm like, well, what can I watch just for

a few more minutes before I go to bed? And I put on Top Gun. It was playing on one of those off channels, you know. The original or the second? Well, they were both. I watched the tail end of the second and the beginning of the original. But the reason I'm bringing this up is in that movie, they said, don't push a bad position.

And that's what happens, you know, and I guess you have to learn the hard way sometimes, but maybe let's stop and think about it, everybody, and not learn it the hard way. Let's just go the right way or the safe way and stop what you're doing and say, let me check this thing out. And it looks like a bad position. I don't want to do it. Right. Right. You know, and I'm thinking right now, as you say that,

don't push a bad position just because of the movie. And, you know, I'm thinking extreme, you know, life or death. And I'm like, no, that doesn't pertain to us. But then I think about it, I'm like, no, it certainly does pertain to us. How many accidents happened this year, not with our company, gladly enough, right? But how many accidents have happened backing into somebody and killing them? Oh, my gosh, yeah. And or even going forward. Yeah.

Yeah, you can kill somebody at one mile an hour. So yeah, our job, I mean, last podcast last week, it's one of the most dangerous out there. Yeah, top five. Yeah. Top three, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And I almost always involved like five. I'm pretty sure it was number one, you guys, because we have the most deaths. Right. I mean, I know that was- Per accident, right? Yeah. It always involves something like that. Yep. Yeah. That's crazy. What's the, I mean, we've kind of continued to talk about it.

The next one is don't force position on job size. Ask customer to move things out of the way. We've discussed that. Then I think the next one's health insurance survey here. We have 49 respondents so far. Friday is the last day giving away Amazon gift card to the lucky name that picked. So anybody, if you guys got any, I mean, everybody got the email about the survey. And isn't that, what is it? A monkey? Was it? Survey monkey. Survey monkey.

So you've got that email from SurveyMonkey. Can you guys take some time and go over the questions? It takes very, very few minutes. Yeah, five minutes. Yeah, and just help us out. I mean, 49 respondents, that's half the company. 48. Well, that's not half the company. 48, do you know why? 48? Yeah, because I filled mine out twice. You sent it to my personal email and my work email. I'm like, oh, hell, I'll fill it out again. Yeah, you lost me, Dave, because I'm like, it says 49.

When are you coming up with 48? I'm sure it counted me twice. Oh, man. But yeah, we'd like some more participation. I mean, I don't know where we're at today, but we average 140 to 150 employees. And I always think of being half is half our trucks, and that's not where we're at. So we need at least 75 to even get to half the trucks, you guys, for half the people that work here. So just take a few minutes.

It helps us pick insurance. Again, that's, you know, coming up in a couple of months where we're going to have to review the insurance. And it's all about cost. And it would be wonderful to stay with Cigna, you know, continue with NICE. It seems to be some good programs. But it's all about cost, you guys. And, yeah, makes the world go around money. Cost. The only way to get better is by getting that feedback. Yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah, JR. How am I doing? Right. Yeah. How do I know? No. And then I think the next one is something we've been talking about, and I'll just read the segment here, and maybe we can chat about it a little bit. And I mean, it's definitely what we've been talking about. But what we all decided to throw in here is let's have a good discussion about how can we do it? How can we do it? Can is capitalized. Yep, yep. Can we do it? Not all about how we can't.

You know, I'll stop reading right here and throw that in there is we have a lot of problems that are brought to me and, and Dave or, or, you know, for a better description thrown on our desk. And we can't look through all these years we've learned, you know, the first things we always get is how we couldn't, how we can't, how we're not going to be able to, how we can't get tires, how we can't, you know, get fuel, how we can't do this.

And, and we have quite the, you know, When times get tough or there's not as much work and stuff like that and you're having to do a better job, like this one where we had the backing accident, that was an off-site with a fairly new customer and we backed into somebody on-site. That's not our best foot, right? Right. And so whenever we're talking about this stuff, it needs to be on how we can do it, not how we can't. And when things get thrown on mine and Dave's desk,

it's a lot about, oh, we can't do this. You can't do this. You can't do this. No, we need to find the reasons why we can. That's what's going to make us better. So it says here, we've heard so many trucks call in today, and this happened to be yesterday, and say they can't make it to the pit. Right. And they easily can. And the reason we know they easily can is two of the trucks yesterday called in and said they couldn't make it to the pit. Can they come in?

And two of those trucks were in our yard before the pit closed. And they were closer to the pit than they were our yard. Yeah. And I guess that's where it's, we're using common sense. I mean, your GPS, that phone, all that shit is wonderful technology. But trying to do something and accomplish something is going to beat your phone and that technology all to hell. And we're not talking about racing. We're not talking about hurrying. We're talking about just continuing on your mission.

And when you get to the yard before the pit closes and you are farther away from the yard, that's a problem. Absolutely. It's a we can't. We can't. It's not a we can't. I don't think it's a we can't. I think it's I don't want to. That's what ultimately I feel that it was, you know. 100%, JR. 100%. I just don't want to. But we can't, you can't run your life on, I don't want to. Right. JR, and you know that. Yeah. You look at all the things you've accomplished in your life.

It wasn't done because I don't want to, you know, and that's what's so frustrating. And it's really disheartening too, because that's money. They're giving up. Yeah. And we hear from so many people, oh, I don't, I'm not making any money. I'm not making any money. Oh, yeah. What are you missing out on? You know what I mean? Generally, those people that say that. Yeah. We can sit down and go through their, how they're applying themselves here.

It's generally not very well. No. No. You understand the reason they're broke because they're broke. Well. They don't apply themselves. Yeah. The decisions they make. Yeah. We have to remember winter is right around the corner. Yeah. We have to chase every single load that we can chase right now. Yeah. Because in two months time, that load won't exist.

Exactly. We won't be able to chase it because the plants are full and they're shutting down because they've been done batching for the day and they're cutting trucks off. So if we haven't been cut off and we can chase that load, even if it's a four o'clock load, we better go get it. Yeah. Yesterday we needed help. Plant 11 was low. Yeah. We needed help. Yeah. And we, we, we failed. We failed as a company. We did. You know, we didn't, we didn't meet our, our creed or anything yesterday. Yeah.

It was, it was disappointing. Yeah, we didn't create honest value for those we serve. No. And we darn sure didn't joyfully do it. That's for sure. Absolutely. You know, so much happens in the dispatch office. You know, I'm sitting there doing my thing on Samsara and everything else I got on my plate there, but I'm listening to what they're doing. And that's something that unfortunately the drivers don't listen to.

You know, they can't hear what's going on. All the phone calls coming in, all the phone calls being made and all that. And, you know, when when you get asked to go to a pit or whatever, and we know that it's getting really close to that, what the normal shutdown time is, whether it's four, four thirty or five p.m., whatever it is. But how do you not know that we've already made a call and said, hey, can you stay open another half hour for these drivers?

And say we get the answer, well, I can't make it or it's going to be super tight. That's okay. Keep going. Right. And the thing is, you're already out. That's where the money comes in. Right. Right. It's almost back to the 401k. It's free money. Yeah. You're already out. Yeah. And you're closer there than here. Right. Coming here costs you money. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then I get- Yeah, two of the drivers yesterday, I heard how the traffic was so bad, but on I-25, they didn't drop below 68 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah, when your GPS- So, yeah. Yeah. The one of them I watched at right at four o'clock, they had already made it down to Vasquez and they were doing 56 on Vasquez in a 45. Yeah. That big a hurry to get to the yard. Yeah. So that was, again, eye-opening or mind-boggling to me.

Yeah. And I guess the rest of it here, and for us as a company, we're not having a very good year. It's tough out there. We're scrambling to do stuff and, and you, and you look at the drivers or, you know, and it was like, well, I guess some of you are having a better year than what we are. You know, the, the, how we take care of it must be pretty good. Cause it's, you're not, you're not trying to go out and help us.

And I think it's, I think it's getting old or it is getting old hearing how we can't do things rather than how we can do things. And we feel it's a lot of our culture in our world lately. And I, you know, on the, on the political side of it, we're, we're losing our liberty and our liberty is based on the freedom to do things. And the, the government is making it and being able to control us because they're telling us what we can and can't do. And, and that's a, it needs to be a can do attitude.

You, we can do this. You'll be so much more successful in life if you live with a, I can do that rather than I can't do that. Yeah. Successful people will figure out a way, and unsuccessful will figure out a way not to. This is so true in many people's lives. I mean, I've always said it off the subject a little bit, but on the subject is people that end up in jail or steal. We had some people that worked here that was actually stealing checks from us.

And the work it took to steal the checks, cash them, and do everything was amazing. I'm like, how are they doing this? and the cops were able to explain how it was being done and what they went through and all the different banks they had to go to, to get the cash and everything else. And I'm thinking to myself, if you just worked, you'd have the money. Yeah. I mean, it blew me away at the steps to steal somebody's check. When you don't think like a thief.

Yeah. When all you had to do, I mean, they were working so hard, but they couldn't even realize it. That sounds so stressful. Yes. Right? Yeah. And stressful. You're doing something illegal and you know it's illegal. Yeah, you're watching your back. You're always turning like, oh, who's watching, you know, who's going after me. Yeah, absolutely. Right. But that was easier than just working. That's easier to race to the yard than just go get in the next load.

What are you gaining? Yeah. A lot if you just go get the other load. Yeah, absolutely. You know? Yeah. So, I don't know, we wanted to talk about that and I think that's, I don't know, I think we've talked about it. Have we beat it up enough? Well, let me throw something else in there.

It's on the same subject, but it's a little bit different. When you're doing time management at the end of the day, so you don't have to go get that last load, isn't it easier just to go and get the load? And you're going to be done about the same amount of time, maybe 30 minutes later, but you've made an extra 40 or 50 bucks. And you're not, you know, essentially doing something illegal like that. You're not working hard at managing the time.

I remember a time when we were delivering to this location. It's a big subdivision south of Franktown. No, not south of Franktown. South Parker before you get to Franktown. It's huge now. I bet you there's 500 houses in there. But we were building the road. We were just doing it. And Scott was there. Sean was there. And I showed up with somebody else was with me. I don't remember, but they were just hanging out.

Well, again, J.R., you mentioned you don't really know what's going on in dispatch, but Linda had made the call for a pit to stay open late, and they had already burned 40 minutes sitting there. And guess what? Linda sent us all back to go get that last load, and they were sitting there burning time. They could have finished an hour before me. Yeah. And yet we all got sent back to get that last load. And so just go get the load.

Don't do that time management. Cause you're wasting time and you're, and you're losing money. Just costing yourself, hurting yourself. Yeah. When we're busy and I see four trucks make it in the yard at 340, I'm always like, that was a plan. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And it's, and it's funny, you know, the radio's silent for a while. One person calls in and all of a sudden he gets brought in and. Oh yeah. Here comes the wave. It is a chain reaction.

We're empty here too. Or, you know. Yep. Yeah. I think Tracy said it, I believe it was words, because he said for somebody to come in, and he goes, here comes the avalanche. And the phone, I mean, the radio just like, oh, man. Kabang, kabang, kabang, kabang. And it's kind of a little joke, but at the same time, again. We send somebody, hey, go to this pit, go to this customer, you know, deliver this load. Some of the guys, what's the next question? What's the rate for that?

Yeah. What's the rate for coming back in and not getting a load? Zero. Good point. Right? I love that. You know, it sounds so awful, JR, but I've heard that. What's the rate for that? I just so badly want to go, it's the screw you rate. And we do it all the time here at JFW. It's our motto. bro. It, it's, I'm going to be honest with you. It has become annoying to me. Like, come on guys, we're all here to make money. We're not here to not make money. Right. Yeah. Absolutely.

Like if you're, to me, that's kind of like penny pinching. You know, if you're doing that, then it doesn't matter what the rate is. Yeah. And it, and it, and it works out in the end. It always works out. We have to get the job done. Yeah. Otherwise we'll lose the customer. Yeah. And all the rates are based on the same. And then we don't have any customers. Would we might have a bad rate out there, but I bet we got a, you know, a little bit better rate out there and it all, it all works out.

Yeah. I was, I was just explaining to somebody yesterday, you know, he was a little upset for doing certain, a certain pit to a certain plant or whatever. And that tomorrow he's going to do the same thing, but a little bit different and they're going to switch them up. And I'm like, look, you're going to have some, what you would call some loads that you may think are not great. rate.

However, the next two or three or four days or whatever, you're going to have what you think are the greatest loads. Because everything is subjective. I used to remember that plant 12, people didn't like it because it was a bad rate, quote unquote, or whatever. I just never paid attention to that. Nowadays, it's like, oh, I want to go to plant 12 or I want to go to this other plant. And I'm like, wait a minute, what changed?

Because it used to be not the place where people didn't want to go or whatever. It's so funny too, Jared, because what's great to one person, sucks to another. Yes. You know, and we've had so many people here over the years, you know, we've had some, I've been on that plant, I've been on that plant, I've been on that plant. And we get so tired of hearing them complain about it. Then we ask, what do you want to run tomorrow? Don't know.

Yeah. And we, and we, we did away with the hardwires mostly last year and, you know, we, we've proved it. You know, the guy, the people that make the most money around here are not hardwired. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the guys that are going everywhere pretty much. And they don't want to go, they don't want to get hardwired. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the guys have to, everybody has to remember it's about the big picture. It's about the whole pie.

You know, we wouldn't have the good rate and the good run without taking it in the shin on a bad rate because it's all connected. You know what I mean? You have these rates here, but we don't want to let, let's just say DG Coleman in on the other hall. So we're going to bid it to get it. Yeah. And it's all in the end, that's how we stay busy.

Right. If we didn't have that in our mind, we wouldn't be busy And we wouldn't be able to, you know, grow and buy new trucks and do all the things, you know, that we are proud of. It is a balancing act. It is, yeah. It is 100% balancing act. There is no doubt about it. Just looking at the bigger picture, you know, I've never been the person, you know, to look at my daily income or my hourly income or anything. Like, that's the small picture.

You're getting a very small picture of what you're doing. And I've always told some of the guys, like, why don't you look at how much you're making per week? What is the difference from week one, week two, week three? If it's only like $25, $30, then I'd say you're doing pretty good. Right. You're being consistent. Yeah. And then you look at your three months, six months, like what are you on track to do? What is your goal? Are you, is your goal to make 80,000?

Six months, if you're making 40,000, 45,000, I'd say you're pretty well on track. Absolutely. And keep in mind, you know, we have so many people that look at that, that don't even take into account their safety bonus. Yeah. Or the week, oh, this only paid this hourly. Well, is that, you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday? And what about your Friday, Saturday? What does that do to the rest of your week when you divide that money out?

You know, there's that, there's the big bump and, you know, that's how we can tell we've been slower because we haven't had that many Saturdays. That's quite a bit of money to a lot of people, but there's still the Friday bump. And the JFW, right, Jim? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it, you know, and then, and then I know Dave mentioned it, but that safety bonus, we raise that a lot. Yeah. You know, that's, that's a lot of money quarterly. Used to be 2%, now it's a 5, right? Yeah, yeah.

You know, so there, there's a lot that goes into this, you know, the, you know, the matching of the 401k, the supply of the health insurance for the, for the, you know, the, the driver or the employee, all of that goes into that wages that you're making. You can't just look at that dollar figure. You have, like you said, JR, it is a whole picture. And we've, we try to preach it all the time. It can't be about I, it has to be about we, or you're not successful.

You know, just, just not. And that, that's in, to me, that's in anything, you know, it has to be about we. So I guess to change it up a little bit, we're looking for, is that the next thing? Looking for two shovelers for the snow crew, please contact Chili Dog. This is how you get your foot in the door for snow removal. Yeah, everybody wants to, or some people think they'll go straight into a snow plow or something. Yeah, well, sometimes that position's kind of taken up already.

Yep. However, you can still make good money just doing shoveling. Yeah, and the snow crew, they're important. They, they make quite a bit of money, you know, all winter long, but I, I got to stress, I am so excited. It's, it, you know, it's going to be different, not difficult. It will be different, but running the 45 loads or 40 loads out of Utah this winter, you know, that's every week. That's going to, that's going to help out everybody's bottom line and make the,

make the winter interesting. I know you, Super Dave, you said earlier that, you know, we slow down, you know, you got to make the, the, the. Hayway, the sun shines. Sun shines. Yeah. But I hopefully that that's not the case this winter. It'll be very interesting. Yeah. To look how the winter goes. I've been saying that a lot in my interviews and stuff. I think we're going to have a busier winter this year than we've had in years and years and years. Oh yeah.

And, and here's the thing. It's not going to be easy. It's going to be a struggle when that winter comes in and we have to get these loads. Yeah. You're going to have to head out and it might be snowing today or tomorrow. You're going to have to chain. Maybe you have to chain, you know, but the thing is nothing worthwhile is easy. Do you know what the first line of our creed is? Together we face and overcome all that stands before us. Abso-fricking-lutely, man.

And I know you're saying it's difficult, Dave, and I don't know if it's going to be difficult or just that much difference. Because how does food and fuel and everything else get done all winter long? How come somebody else can do it and we can't? If it's that difficult, how does everybody else do it? We can't? We're not capable, Dave? No, definitely not. We can. can, but I get a lot of people. I talked to a lot of people that are like, I'm done.

I'm tired of going over the hill every day, all winter long. So they see this cute little end dump company here and they know we run out of Platteville and we run out of Fort Lupton. And so they're bailing on that job, but it, it, maybe it's not for the faint of heart, but I'm going to go back to my original point, nothing worthwhile is ever easy. Oh yeah. If you want to buy a new house, it's not easy. You got to work more hours.

If you want to have a baby, you got to be up in the middle of the night with that baby and it's crying its head off. It's not easy, but then you appreciate your daughter or your son. And you know, if you go out and get those loads and you work your tail off for four or five years, you appreciate that new truck you're able to have. Absolutely. Yeah. And there is going to be some movement too.

I guess what we're talking about chaining up and having to get it done is, you know, we're not going to, if there's supposed to be a blizzard, you know, tomorrow morning, we're not going to send 40 trucks out in the blizzard. Right. We have that availability to work around it. But like you said too, Super Dave, if you've ran out, it's all sunshiny. We get to Utah and come back and there's a storm on Vail. We're going to get over Vail, right? But you might come back,

get to Eisenhower and the weather's beautiful. That's what we're going to overcome. We're not going to send you out in this treacherous weather because it has to be done. That's not the point of this. Yeah. What is Colorado known for in the rest of the nation? 300 days of sunshine. And skiing, right? Where are our mountains at? To the west. In the freaking mountains, right? Yeah. Exactly. Where does it snow? know where everybody skis, how do they service those places?

Yep. You know what I mean? Fuel trucks, fuel trucks. All year long. That's right. I mean, what the ski industry brings in income to Colorado is. And they keep those roads open. Oh my God, yes. All year long. Yeah. Yeah, Dave. I'll say I'm excited about this new run that we're going to do, especially because it is in the wintertime. It will keep us busy. However, low key, I am a little bit nervous in a good way, I think.

Yeah. It's going to bring a whole new aspect to what we do during those months. But that's what keeps us on our toes. I think, you know, it's what makes us who we are. And, you know, I think a lot of the drivers, especially the guys that are not experienced of, you know, going and chaining and going over the passes and stuff, but we're not doing 65 or 70 miles an hour down, down an ice mountain or something.

Right. Exactly. You know, we're not in an episode of ice, ice road trucking or something like that, where everything is the drama music in the background. It's, Hey, if we got to go 15, 20 miles or even slower than that, then let's do it. Yeah. You know, they say the first step is the first step to your thousand mile trip. I remember when I was running fuel and I had to go over Loveland Pass every day and you knew it was snowing, right? And you were always nervous.

You'd have those butterflies when you were leaving the yard, hoping that it wasn't going to be too awful bad. But then once you got going, you know, you've passed that first step, so to speak, and you're taking the next thousand steps. You're committed. It's just the process. It's just like hauling a load of sand from Morton to plant two. You're just, you're out there doing it. It's, it's just what you're doing and you, you're focusing on the moment.

You're focusing on what you're doing in the moment. And by golly, once I would have to stop at the bottom of Loveland and put those chains on, I was happy because I knew I was good to go. Yeah. You know, and I've said this to you guys a lot of times, you feel like a tank, man. You're just like, I'm not going to slide off this road. Right. And I had 7,300 gallons of fuel in my tank behind me, you know?

Explosives behind you, Super King. You know, the thing is, you guys, CDOT is so cautious anymore. I mean, we're going to wind up running those chains on more dry pavement. Oh, dry pavement. Oh, God. Because they're going to throw the chain log. Yeah. You know, we're going to need it for a quarter of a mile, but we're going to drive on four miles of dry pavement because they're going to throw that up. Oh, yeah. You know, and like you said, they kill themselves to keep those roads

clear for the ski community. So we'll be fine. But we need people making great decisions up there, right? Great decisions. We got to be sure everything's covered and taken care of. So didn't want to throw out there to back up to the snow shovelers. I was going to back. To reach out to Chili Dog there. His email is alan, A-L-A-N, alan at jfwtrucking.com. Just shoot him a quick email and you can volunteer for that position. Most people didn't even know his name was Alan. And we do rotate.

It's not like you're going to be stuck shoveling. Yeah. And don't the shovelers have their own pickup day and they travel together, they shovel it together and they maintain it's not, it's a, not a. Yeah. I don't know. I thought Alan had a whip in his truck and he's, he's hardcore. Get to shoveling now. They drop you off on the side of the road and you're out in the snow for the next 10 hours. Yeah, we'll go there too. And something, I guess we forget to do in the wintertime, bring water,

bring supplies, again, snacks, all that stuff. Right. And it's not like you're going to be out in the, you know, shoveling for hours on end, you know, you'll shovel for an hour or two, take a little small break and then get back out there again. Yep. But again, we go back to our creed. Let's bring honest value to those customers. Yeah. Do what we got to do. Yeah, for sure. Yep. Face and overcome. Yes, sir. Yeah. All right. So what's next? What is next? Not sure, but Jewish holiday next.

Is that a Jewish holiday? Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah? I think so. I think that's how you say it. Yep. And is that Jewish holiday, you guys? I mean, I know Jam's pretty good about it. Yeah, Jam put it on there and he's not here. So if it's a Jewish holiday. He grew up Jewish, so yeah, I believe that's a Jewish holiday. Right? It's Wednesday the 2nd next week. So congratulations, everyone that gets to celebrate. The Jewish, sorry we're laughing, but that's what's next. Yeah.

Laughing at our own ignorance, right? Yep. Yep. And not next week, but the week after, I have to mention still the meeting with Commerce City. City Council, yeah. Yep, City Council for JFW. So you guys are, it's at six o'clock. Anybody's welcome to come by and listen to the deal. But it's an important date for us. I want to ask you guys, because you've been sitting in on the 270 reconstruction meetings. They've reconfigured the bridge right there. Is that the beginning of the construction?

No. No. Absolutely not, Dave. So they had to make repairs to the Vasquez Bridge, which that is what that is, right? Which is the newest. That's the newest bridge. It is, yes. And we asked. It's only like 20 years old or something like that. Yeah, we asked that. When, we were all, me and Dave were like, well, when was that redone? And so it was redone in 2000, so it's over 20 years old, obviously.

And it needs to have some repairs done to it before they can start the project, not before they can start the project, but they need those repairs done. And then that, then the project starts, but absolutely nothing. And then me and Dave just talked about it. We can't remember because Dave asked, how long is a bridge supposed to last? Do they expect a bridge to last? I'm pretty sure it was 60 years. Yeah. And that's, that's what I thought too is 60 years, Dave.

So it's not even to half its life yet. And don't get excited about construction starting because they're hopeful. Hopeful if it starts in 26. Yeah. Wow. So that's just prepared of the Vasquez Bridge. Yeah. They're supposed to last 60 years. But overall, the new construction on 270 being planned out is to expand it, is what it is? Yeah. Three lanes. Two lanes, each side. One of them a managed lane. They'll tell you they haven't decided yet. One of them is going to be managed. So it's a waste.

Managed as in like a toll. Like a toll. Yeah, a toll. That's their fancy word, They are, and I keep forgetting it, so I've kind of like memorized it. I say it every place I go, managed lane, managed lane. Because as a managed lane, you can make it a toll lane, you can make it an express lane, you can make it whatever lane you want and still call it a managed lane. Yeah. I'm going to back up here and just, I looked up Rosh Hashanah.

It's the two-day holiday that begins the evening of Wednesday, October 2nd. Jews will usher in the year 5785. Yom Kippur, the day of atonement, begins the following week with Kol Nidri. I don't know if that's how you say it. With Kol Nidri services on the evening of Friday, October 11th and continues through sundown on Saturday, October 12th. So hopefully that answers all your questions. Okay. Well, congratulations. Is that what, is that appropriate or it's just what's next? Yes.

Can I ask you a question? What is it celebrating? Or is it just a ritual? Is it celebrating something special? I'd have to keep looking, Dave. I don't know. Jam would know. Being Jewish, I'd figure it's probably a religious holiday, maybe. Possibly. I mean, I'm not sure what Yom Kippur is. So, I mean, I've heard the term for years and years, but I don't know. So it's the day of atonement. Next week, it's going to be on what's next. They're paying for their.

Yeah. Somebody answer those questions for us, will you? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Jam will next week. That's what's next week. Right. Questions from the audience? I don't, I don't see one. I don't have any to be honest with you. Okay. All right. So safety topic of the week. Check, check, check, and quadruple check your loads. Right material, right plant in the right bin. I think we've been on this one for a couple of weeks already. And unfortunately yesterday. Loads and tickets, right JR?

Yeah. Check your tickets, make sure they're right too. Yeah. Check, check to make sure you're going to the right pit and you're going to go to the right plant. And, you know, I check your emails before you go to sleep at night in case of any changes and check your dispatches and emails in the morning before you actually get going. Cause especially now in the winter time, things change drastically.

They change quickly. You know, the plant two could possibly have, Hey, I need, you know, 60 loads of rock. I'm making that up. Right. But right. You know, next thing you know, being in the middle of the winter time, they call early in the morning, five in the morning, four 30, whenever dispatch is here and they say, Hey, I need you to cut off 50 of those loads. I only need 10 rock.

What happens to the other ones, you know, and as a driver, we need to, we need to make sure that, that we are not the driver that got updated and got switched around or something like that. But also remember what you have on. I mean, I'm not too sure how you forget what you loaded, where you came from and all that. But, you know, we've had some drivers, you know, they forget and they start dumping in the wrong pile.

You know, they they have rock on and they start going into the into the sand grizzly or the the sand stockpile or something like that or pea gravel in the lightweight or whatever it is, you know. If you got to, we've mentioned in the past, get some sticky notes. We have sticky notes here. Write down what you have on and put it on your dash. I think it was, and I've only heard this from you guys, but who was it? Captain Ron? Yep. If he had a certain. Used to wear a glove.

Used to wear a glove if he had what? P-gravel or something? Yep. He'd put a glove on his left hand when he was carrying P-gravel. Yeah. Yeah. Or squeegee. I think it was squeegee actually. Yeah. Because you had to change the bend. Yeah. Yeah. I think he even wrote whether it was P-gravel or squeegee on the glove. Yeah. And it was just the little half glove, you know what I mean? His fingers were still exposed, but that, that would remind him of that.

He'd put it on when he'd load and he never screwed up. So. Yeah. Do what we got to do to, to remember where we're going and what we're doing. Yeah. There's so many changes, especially now with pits and, and the plants and. Yeah. Yeah. Remember at plant one, we'd have to get out and turn the switch. If you had pea gravel or sand. Yeah. At the old plant one. If you forgot to turn the switch, it would go into the wrong bin. The glove was more for the switch, I believe. Yeah. Than any.

Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. Cause no matter what material you had on, you dumped in the same spot. Right. Oh yeah. That was the, that was the hard part. It just changed the belt below to where it ran up to. Yeah. Yeah. It was still a reminder though. Oh yeah. No. Yeah. I think, I think something like that would still work, you know? Oh yeah. Black glove for rock and white glove for something else. Yeah. Or something. Yeah.

Yeah. Take a glue stick and put a glue sand on one glove and glue rock on another or something, man. And if it's an issue for you, get it figured out soon. Yeah. Put pea gravel on one and squeegee on another. You can change gloves every time you change materials, right? Pea gravel, gloves, this is mine.

Could get we could get with jack because i know we used to like to tease him yeah he's got a fuel glove he's got the drive yes he's got all that then we'll we'll have jack teach you how to make a pea gravel glove and a rock right or something but what he does though it works i mean that man i don't think i've ever seen him in the shop he's doing his pre-trip his trailers up his he takes the full 30 45 minutes in the morning to do that and he's perfect no issues yeah no issues,

yeah yeah i think the only issue he had is thank you for that jack yes thank you jack was a few months ago when he when he traded out or drove his wife's car and bumped the lock and locked the keys in his car and he was he was so upset he was so mad at himself because he's he's he's perfect otherwise you know what i mean that's when you get out of routine like he said he said i'm i'm not used to driving my wife's car so yeah that's the key word the routine

yep yeah you got You got to create that routine. Yeah. Hey, just to add to that safety topic of the week, you know, the accident, I mean, things are popping in on our phones as we're sitting here recording this, but. Live updates. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, live updates. So going to plant 12 when you're, when you have to exit there at Chambers, that's pretty short lane change to get off 70 onto the off ramp for Chambers. Well, number one, we crossed the Gore line.

The white line, just so everybody knows what the Gore line is. Which is totally a hundred percent illegal. Yep. I know, I know crossing that gives you more time to make the chambers exit, but damn, it's illegal. We can't cross that line. And then it was, it was a pretty fast lane change and we took in pit maneuver to car. So. We got, we got one person transported to the hospital and. Yep. Two cars involved beside our truck. Yep. Yep, a hundred percent our fault.

And man, we talk about it and we talk about it and we talk about it. You know what I'm, I'm putting it out there. Did that driver have on his safety has no blind spot? Cause that's our blind spot lane change. That is a thousand percent. Our largest accident zone is that right front corner. Did that driver have on his, his bracelet? You know, did he think about that when he crossed the Gore line? Did he think about that when he was changing lanes fast, here's what happens.

When you hit that car, you just automatically pit maneuver it, and it spins out in front of you, and it shoots right out the, goes from the right side of the truck across the front of you sideways and out the driver's side. And it is, for those people that that happens to, it has to be incredibly. Scary. Oh, it's just got to be horrible. Yep. And, I mean, we just talk about it and talk about it. Did he have air in his seat? Did he look several times?

I know the sun was in his eyes, but if you change lanes slow, you hear that, you feel it. You're like, oh, what was that? And you've hit that car, but you didn't spin it out. You didn't pit maneuver it. And that's the thing. This has happened too many times over the 50 years we've been in business. We change lanes so fast, We pit maneuver those cars and it's, it's dangerous. When you change lanes, that blinker needs to be on for a long time and you need to take your time moving over.

You know, we have had accidents where we just bumped that car because we're moving slowly. And guess what? We took off some lug nut covers and we paid for a little bit of damage to that car. Everybody parked. There was no accident. It was an accident, but we didn't shut down the highway. Yeah. We don't have anybody hurt. Yep. No one hurt. We bumped that car and we exchanged information and went on our way.

So. Yeah, I got to add just because I keep replaying the video and I'm watching it here, right? We're not speeding per se or anything. It doesn't look like we are doing that. However, us as drivers, we need to slow our world down a little bit. And what I mean by that is that when you see somebody looking left, right, left, right, really quick, and then making that merge without taking that, like you're saying, the slow merge, that to me is being in a hurry.

Maybe not in a rush speeding, but you're in a hurry in your mind. You're trying to catch up with what your brain is doing, right? Right. And that leads us as humans to skip steps. Right. And something I'm watching on this is that we never looked over our dash. We never looked over our hood or anything. Absolutely. We may have looked at the mirrors left and right, but we never looked over the hood. Was our blind spot mitigation going off? It should have been.

I think the car was probably too far forward because it's mounted on the fuel tank. Right. But it's supposed to reach clear up through that zone, Dave. It's supposed to reach that front bumper area. It will. So, yeah. Well, as the saying goes, technology is only as good as its user. Right. Absolutely, JR. Does that blind spotter go off as soon as you put the signal light on or does it not? Does it take a second or two? Yeah. And I don't think we gave it that time, if anything. Sure.

I think it's another case of him not being in the moment. He was thinking ahead. I need to move over rather than look, look now at the car, what's beside him. Yeah. He was already ahead of, I need to move over because I need to get off or whatever. First response was sun was in my eyes. And that's when you really need to slow up and you really need to look and be sure you're a hundred percent clear. Right? You do move slower. You do things slower because you're worried about something

being there. It's no different than it's raining. Right. You don't start going faster in the rain. You slow down a little bit. Exactly. You increase your following distances. Yes. Yep. Somber moment. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't look good. Doesn't feel good. Nope. Nope. At fault is never good. No. I mean, that opens us up to lawsuits and who knows what. Yeah. I might as well just text that Frank Azar phone number to that four wheeler, huh? Yeah, Dave. I mean, it sucks.

Yeah. Not a, not a good feeling. Not at all. Some tricks from Ray Davis. That's what we're up at. That's where we're at. You got it, Dave? You got it, Dave. Coming from the heart and being humble to not only our brothers and our sisters, but to our customers and others on the road. Well, he wrote that without knowing what happened this morning. Right, right. What is the meaning of a humble person? A humble person is not proud and does not believe that they are better than other people.

Traffic and people merging are the worst of our job. Wow. Right? How could this be done? Did Ray have a dream about this or something? Yes. Wow. It is our job to be the professional driver to pay attention to others. Most don't know how much to match their speed to get on the highway. To get on a highway, you slow down for them and you show them then you're both slowing down more and more. And then they get upset and pushed to the side of the road and mad,

acting like it's your fault. In a situation like this, you need to stay calm, be the better person, and be humble. If you see multiple cars, you can move over, letting multiple cars merge on safely. Always check your blind spots before trying to move over to let them on. Pay attention to what is going on in front of you and all sides of you, and not forcing anyone off the road. Be humble and let them in. Remember, we're all trying to get somewhere safe so no one gets in a vehicle.

Same, I'm going to just be an ass today. I just want to add to that, you know, because he says move over. Over the years, we've had accidents where we didn't move over. And the driver told us, I couldn't move over. I couldn't get over there. There were cars there. Well, could you have slowed up? I couldn't speed up because I was loaded. Could you have slowed up?

Absolutely. Just tap those brakes. Yeah. Let that Jake burp for 10 seconds or three seconds, as powerful as they are, and let those cars merge in. You are the professional. Control the situation. I mean, we've talked about this how many times? Yeah. Control the situation. You're driving for somebody else. Yeah. You're the professional. Yeah. You have to drive for those people. Are a couple of seconds really a loss? Yeah. Compared to two hours on the side of the road because of an accident.

Oh my gosh, JR. Or hurting somebody. And the thing is when you time, how can you even time that? Running the Jake for a few seconds, that's really costing you a few seconds. You know what I mean? I don't see how it's costing you. It doesn't. Yeah. Milliseconds maybe. Yeah, exactly. 100%. So anyway, hope all is well with the JFW family, friends, and listeners. Remember, safety has no blind spots. Look lean, sit up in your stool. Don't be a fool.

It's better to be slow and safe than to be sorry. Much love and respect. Always Ray Ray, the black sheep, 0013. Just that paragraph right there covers our accident. That's right. Sit up in your stool, look and lean. Right. Safety has no blind spots. We should do that every time. You know, our, our people have signed, like they're going to change lanes. Like their family is in the car next to them. Well, we just hurt our family.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's like a good half hour to 40 minutes of discussion on this subject and orientation on day one. Oh, I bet you. With what we now have is new footage. Right. But I have various footage of what we've done in the past. Yeah. Yeah. The guys that were on from 303 last week, they put footage out on their, on their, they use it a lot on LinkedIn and then I don't know all their other

social media. I'm sure they have an Instagram page and stuff and they're always looking for footage of what not to do. And it's like, oh my gosh, we just provided footage for them and it doesn't feel good. Yeah. Doesn't feel good at all. Yeah. It's, it's a shame we can update your footage of what not to do. Right. Yeah. But you know, unfortunately this is our mistake, you know, JFW as a whole, we always say it's better to learn from others mistakes.

Unfortunately, it's not another trucking company that we're learning from, but sometimes the harder mistakes are the ones you make yourself. Yeah. What sucks Jr is where, where are we with this? We've, we've trained this driver. They've been through your orientation. They've been through Kendrick's class. Hopefully they're listening to the podcast. They've signed off on changing lanes, like their lives and their family's lives depend on it.

You know, were they wearing their, their safety has no blind spot bracelet. I mean, I've broken three of these and the day it breaks, I come in and get another one. You know what I mean? I don't have a stockpile of them at home. I break one and come in and get another. And I just love it. I mean, it, it, it is a daily reminder of what we're doing and you need to wear that.

If you, if you, if you remotely, I don't want to say care, that's not the right word, but if you're remotely engaged, you should be proud to wear that. You know, you should be proud to have that bracelet on and, and participate in, in our programs because, you know, we didn't make this program up for no reason. Guess what? We just had an accident right now. It's, it, it, it, and it doesn't feel good. So. Avoidable. Unavoidable. Preventable. 100% preventable. There's a word preventable.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I, I do think this, it's been a while since we had something like this happen. So, because once we started this campaign, it, we went on a good run, you know, everybody was alert. Everybody's been, I'm not saying we're not now, but we unfortunately did drop the ball on this one. Yeah, I was just going to mention that it's, it seems like it's been a long time. Like our, our program has worked, but obviously it hasn't.

You know what I mean? I mean, it's been a long time, but it's never enough. Yeah. This is where it gets tough for me, you guys, because, you know, JR, you're sitting here saying we dropped the ball. And as leaders, you know, we have to take the responsibility, right? Our creed, every first sentence is together, right? And it pisses me off because one person didn't do what we are supposed to do. So we are carrying the brunt of this. We are responsible.

Responsible we are all going to have to pay for it you know and it it it just doesn't feel good it's it's unfortunate that that one person can cause this situation and it's it's a bit of a drag yeah for sure. It's a little disheartening, you know, when you, when you ask everybody almost every day, slow up a little bit. Right. We try to put it in perspective. Denver ain't that big. Colorado ain't that big in general. Somebody's family's out there. Right.

My family, especially on highway 85. That's, that's scary. You know, I tried to tell my family, don't, don't, don't get on an 85 if you don't have to. Yeah. But either way, you know, you got to merge that, that sentence in our, in our campaign pain saying merge as if your family's right next to you, that, that should hit the nail on the head for everybody. Yeah. Because somebody's friend or, and, or families are out there. Yeah. It might not be yours. It's someone's family. Right.

It is someone's family. Yeah. Jam, welcome back. What did I miss? Yom Kippur or Rosh. Rosh Hashanah. Yes. Please give us the explanation of that. Jewish New Year. Jewish New Year. Okay. There you go. Okay. And it's the first day, 10 days later is Yom Kippur which, or Yom Kippur, which is a day of atonement. So yeah. Gotcha. Otherwise we've, we've, we've really, we've shared with everybody the accident, Jim.

We've got live updates. We've told everybody what went on and, you know, you know, safety has no blind spots. We've been, that's what we've kind of dwelled on here a little bit along with our topics. We're, we're, we're to Super Dave's High Road Holland, but I, I, I ran across something that was kind of, might've been part of my, was going to be part of my closing thoughts, but but talking about this accident is the people were talking about their ability.

You go in and you give a speech or you're meeting with somebody and you want to have all this ability. And it's like the ability to drive the truck here. But whether you have or don't have the ability to drive that truck, the thing is what I enjoyed about this piece I read was it's your intentions.

Intentions what are your intentions that's your abilities if you go in to give in a speech and your attention is to do a give a good speech and educate people that will give you the ability if you're driving that truck and your attentions intentions are to be as safe as possible that's going to give you the ability to drive that truck you know when you leave in the morning to to to go to Utah and your intentions are to have a good trip,

you're going to have, you know, you know, your chains are good. You know, you're going to, you're going to have, you know, food and water. You're going to have a coach. You're going to have all the things you need to do because that's your intentions. And if I believe I'm a good person, my intentions are good. And that's going to give me the ability to do things. And I think that's where we're, we're missing that is, is what are your intentions for the day?

You know, we, we've joked through the years, people don't get up to suck all day. Yeah. You know, to go wreck. So, so what are your intentions for, for your day? Yeah. Super Dave, you want to do the High Road Hauling? Boy, I don't know. But we're going to shift gears here, everybody. I think this is universal. Everybody struggles with change, but yet change is, they say, the only common denominator, similar to death and taxes, right? You know, one constant in life is change.

But how do you deal with change and uncertainty?

Uncertainty we can all get caught in a spiral of worrying about the future and what we think might happen which usually goes away quickly but if it becomes a cycle of anxiety it can affect your mental well-being especially if we're already struggling with some other issues luckily there are ways to manage uncertainty and reduce worry and stress so here are 10 things you you can do to help deal with the change and look after your mental well-being in the face of uncertainty.

So number one, take stock of how you feel. Put time aside to assess your current situation and think about how you really feel. Perhaps talking it through with someone you trust. Remember to be kind to yourself and don't place undue blame on yourself for things that are out of your control.

Number two, focus on the short term. The further you look into the future, the the easier it is to get overwhelmed and instead try to focus on the day-to-day and think about what is in your power to do right now. Number three, acknowledge what's working. What this means is when you're thinking everything is going wrong, there are some things that do not change. It could be a close relationship, your favorite food, or a song that means something special.

Each day consider what went well and try to list three things that you're thankful for Noticing, acknowledging, and being grateful for those positive things can help us deflect and recover from life's knocks and setbacks. Number four, recognize your achievements. Take 10 minutes and list some of your accomplishments or successes from recent months. No matter how big or small, it can really help us when we take time to reflect

on and be proud of what we have been able to do. It can also help to keep a note of them as a reminder of the good stuff. Find a new rhythm. Routine and structure can be a powerful way to feel more in control and reduce uncertainty. But could you create a new routine that might work better for you? It can be as simple as going for a morning walk or making more time for your family and friends. Make time to de-stress and wind down each day.

Build in positive activities like exercise, relaxation, and hobbies. Try to stay in the moment. When going through a period of change and uncertainty, we can forget about the here and now. It's important not to dwell on the past or fixate on the future. You can only do your best with what you have today. And remember, you can't change the past and don't dwell on the future because good or bad, you don't know what is going to happen.

And number seven, reframe your thoughts. In difficult times, it can be easy to get caught up in negative thoughts. Maybe you're disappointed about what was supposed to happen. You might find yourself in a negative spiral when you fixate on issues and convince yourself of the worst. It can be helpful to step back and examine the evidence and explore other ways of looking at the situation.

This will not resolve your problems, but it can help break a negative spiral and give Give you a new perspective and decide what strategies work for you. Although it might feel overwhelming, remember, this is not the first challenge you've faced in your life. You probably already have a lot of strength and skills to get through the current situation. Think about what strategies have worked for you the best for you in the past. Then use these approaches now.

Only do what's comfortable. Don't let others pressure you into things that make you uneasy or worse yet, unsafe. Discuss these concerns with those close to you and make sure whatever you do, it's your choice and your decision.

And lastly, get practical advice. If you or someone you know is struggling with change or uncertainty and it's affecting you or your, I'm sorry, affecting your or their mental health and well-being, it's always best to talk about what's bothering you with someone you trust. Get it off your chest and talk to whether it's a family member or a friend or professional. And a couple of really good quotes. I couldn't decide which one was best, so I put them both down.

And I like it because they're both spoken by a legendary Chinese philosopher by the name of Lao Tzu. He was born in 571 BC. And this is kind of funny because 2,500 years ago, they had the same problems and the same issues that we have today in many cases. So he said, if you do not change your direction, you may end up where you are heading today. Isn't that something, right? And then the second one, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

And I quoted that a little earlier in the podcast. So sometimes, and I think actually back up all the time, the hardest thing is getting started on any project, any difficult task, any new journey, any change that you need to make. The hardest step is that first one. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah, good stuff. Well, I'm going to jump in there, but it, it, for final thoughts, I had like all of this plan. I had some kind of fire and brimstone stuff with, with politics. We're 40 days until elections.

We should be getting some mail-in ballots here in a week or two. I got the book. Yeah. Yeah. That book is pretty interesting. We just, I don't think you were in there when we were talking about it, about the, the lions. Jim was telling me that. Yeah, so it's kind of hidden in there. About the dogs. Yeah, you can't use colored dogs to hunt anymore if that passes. You know, who doesn't hunt with a colored dog? You know, I mean. Don't, if you're bird hunting, don't you usually have bird dogs?

Yeah. Especially to retrieve the bird. They'll be illegal, Dave. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So hidden agenda. My point is whenever you're bird hunting, you almost have your dog all. Yes. Yeah. But that's a hidden agenda in there. Right? The whole thing is about the mountain lions. Look at the lions, by the way, you can't use the dog. Right. Exactly. I just, I hate it. I hate it, you guys. But the, the accident we just had is, is just, it's throwing me for a loop.

And it is so frustrating, you guys, because we sit here and, you know, we go over with our insurance company, all these nuclear verdicts, you know, that put companies out of business. And you guys, the importance of this accident, we just hurt a person. We just hurt a person. and, and God damn what you do, slow down, pay attention to what you're doing. And I don't know how much more important or impactful, you know, if you like working here, slow down.

If you see trucks going too fast on the road, get on the CB, tell them to slow down. They're endangering lives. Or the company radio. Yeah. Yeah. If it's our, if it's our trucks for sure, Dave, I'm just talking, And even if you don't know him, tell him how dangerous it is. What we do is so damn dangerous. I mean, we just had a truck driving school on last week talking about the dangers of what we do. We talk about how it's the number one dangerous job in the nation.

Dangerous what we do. And, and we've, we've come up with program after program after program to try and help with that. And it's just, it's disheartening when we have an accident like this and it, it sucks because this won't just be a repair of a car and a fix of a broken leg. This will be bigger and it's going to cost way more money and, and we will all be affected by it in some way, shape or form. And that's how the world works, but it sucks because it's preventable.

And it, it's miserable. It puts a gut, a pit in my stomach. I hate it. You know, to me, it's set a tone for the whole podcast. I'm disappointed for the, for anybody that listens to the podcast, because I hope it's not a downer. I hope they understand the importance of how we feel and, and how bad it sucks because it does. So I guess I'll jump back to what my original final thoughts were that I'd written my notes on. And Jim and I went to a fundraiser last night for Gabe Evans.

He's the one going for Yadira Caraveo's seat in Congress and he's a guy we need to get behind he's he was an Arvada cop for 10 years been in the military for 10 years prior to that or the reserves 10 years after that or 12 years so he's got like 22 years combined in in serving people serving our country serving our nation and he's just a great guy you know he wants to secure our borders and one of the big things that he brought up and I I didn't even realize it.

And I've, I've been behind Gabe, you know, trying to help him get elected in this seat for pushing 10 months now, at least. I mean, I met him before the end of 23. And if he can get in that seat, it shoestrings a lot of other things together because CD8 is all of Commerce City. It's all of Thornton. It's all of North Glen. It's a portion of Westminster,

you know, it's Brighton. it's all of these districts or all of these municipalities that he can help sway the vote to a more reasonable position. And what I mean by that is, you know, I'm going to throw out their Republican side where they're pro-business, they're pro-survival, they're pro-lowering our costs.

And we need people like that. And if he can get in that seat and help sway those positions, it will gain us more seats in the House and in the Senate, which is good for Colorado because right now it's so one-sided. One-sided things don't survive, right? You need angles from both sides to create healthy discussion and come together and get the best result for the people. When it's one side, it becomes an agenda. And that's what we have right now in Colorado. It's basically an agenda.

And we need to get it more equalized, right? We need more Republicans elected in those seats. And that's it in a nutshell. And we need good ones. We don't want bad ones, right? We need good people. Gabe Evans is good people. And when you talk about good people, one of the other people that are running for CD8 for state board of education is Yasmin Navarro. And, you know, she's running for a seat to help our children get a better education.

If she gets in there, they're going to have balance on the board. It'll be four Republicans to four Democrats. If she doesn't get that seat, it's going to be swayed to the Democrat side and they'll do away with our charter schools. If they do away with our charter schools, we're in deep, deep trouble. That means the Democrats can set up the curriculum for your students to learn. Yes. Your students- Which is their agenda. Your students will be liberal.

That's how they'll be raised, just so you understand that. Yep. So I guess I sit here and I ask because just so everyone knows, that seat that Yasmin is running for, it's not even a paid position. Nope. She's going to donate all of her time for the next four years in that seat to help your children. So it's worth it to her to work for free. She's going to go work for free to help all of our kids. And I guess I don't know a kid around here that's not worth at least $100.

I'm going to sit here and I'm going to ask to please donate not only $100 to Yasmin Navarro, but also $100 to Gabe Evans, because we desperately need two amazing young people like they are in these positions. These two are amazing young people that will help our country. And I know you wonder how they're going to help our country. Gabe's seat is a congressional seat. He'll go to Washington. He'll help vote to secure the borders. He'll help Colorado.

How he helps Colorado is just just like I described, he will be able to sway a position for city of Thornton, for city of North Glen, for Adams County, for city of Brighton, all of these things. So if you would like to go to their site, I'm sitting here and I'm begging of you. We didn't hesitate for someone to come here and sell candy bars. We didn't hesitate for someone to come here and sell peaches.

We didn't hesitate for anyone to come in with their kids and help sell a product that benefits their kids or their schools or anything. So I'm sitting here turning the tide and I'm asking you, Please donate $100 to Yasmin Navarro, and please donate $100 to Gabe Evans. You can look them up. Yasmin is spelled Y-A-Z-M-I-N for Colorado. Yasmin for Colorado. The minute you type in Yasmin, her site comes up. Just go to it. You can donate right on a donate button with your credit card.

The same with Gabe Evans, but his is elect Gabe, G-A-B-E, Evans, E-V-A-N-S. So go to both of those sites and I, I, I ask you to please donate a hundred bucks. I know times are tight. I know things are tough, but the only way they get better is to get good people like this elected and get them in those seats. And we try and make a better Colorado. These two people are willing to, you know, Gabe is a paid position. Yasmin's doing it for free. She's going to help raise your kids for free.

Give her a hundred bucks. Our kids are worth it. They, we, we need that. We need it here in Colorado. So with that, that's all I got.

Looking at me across the table he's knowing he's knowing i'm ready right looks like you were loading up hey just to follow up with what dave said i want you to donate money i got on the site this morning literally took about three minutes i donated money because yasmin asked me last night if i donated yet and i and i i had to tell her no you know and i guess some of that that pushed me that way. As Dave said it several times, she's doing this for free.

For the folks that are listening, you don't have to be in that district, but it's such a large district that you can still donate money to her campaign. I would like you to look up District 8. It is a huge district. It covers basically from I-70, clear up above Greeley, way out east, and it runs right along the I-25 corridor. It does pass over to the west side of I-25 in several spots, but there's going to be a lot of us that are in District 8.

A lot. So please take a look. We can make some changes. And Dave's right, the accident overshadowed this. I'm getting old enough in my years here that my retirement is going to be where I don't have the pressure or the responsibility of hurting somebody. And we hurt somebody today. And I can't, I love this job. I love you guys, but I can't retire soon enough where I don't have that pressure. That's my, that's how close I am. I'm, I'm years and it's, it sucks you guys.

And so it's up to you to, to keep us safe, to keep our company, to keep the legacy of a truck driver, of a company, of a business safe. It falls on you guys. And the other responsibility that falls on you guys is voting and trying to do the right thing. And Dave's got me involved more and more. We've tried to get you guys involved more and more. I know Jesse even wrote Dave a text that he read several podcasts ago and Jesse's gotten involved.

But I want to just say something that helped me understand that I ran across, try to read more and more, is any politician, a Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter. They're trying to have you see issues, problems, things are going on through a political lens and a political process. How they fix that is with a law, with something, and that's the political lens. That's what they're trying to sway you to do, to see it through a political lens.

And when I read that, what's unique about the United States is we were established to maximize two things, you guys. Individual liberty and personal responsibility. Liberty and personal responsibility. They have to exist, you guys. And what that means is as they take your liberty with all these laws, you don't have personal responsibility.

Responsibility and to explain this is I was just talking to some friends of mine that are having some kids and they're excited to have another baby or maybe maybe try for another child because there's a government program out there to sponsor them to help them with having another baby and I don't know my point of view is I don't know if they realized that the government is controlling how they have and when they have kids.

They just lost their individual freedom, their liberty, because it's not their personal responsibility anymore. It's not their personal responsibility. They gave that up. And that's an example of, we are slowly losing our personal responsibilities, our liberty. When Yasmin explained to us, and Dave went over it, If we lose this seat and the Democrats get to, with their political lens, control our school system, your kids will be raised in a liberal society, a liberal view.

You don't have your liberty. I don't care. I don't want your kids to be raised liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat. I don't want your kids raised that way. I want them to have freedom, and we're losing that. If you guys don't understand that, this is the basis of the fight. This is what me and Dave are bothered by. Your kids in our future are losing their freedom, and I don't want that to happen.

That's what I learned last night. It was, it's a cold, it's as cold a feeling is the accident we had today. So yeah, I, I, I love all you guys be safe, please think about your actions. I don't really have final thoughts except for basically the attitude you bring to work or the attitude you go to home with. I mean, be sure it's the right one. I keep saying this, but positive thoughts and positive actions lead to positive outcomes.

You want something good to happen at work, make sure you bring that positivity. Nothing better than that. Yeah. It's true. I do want to throw out just a little more tidbit about Yasmin. She is a true, I believe she calls herself a, is it a dreamer? Is that what it's called? She came here as an immigrant from Mexico. Her mother and father brought her here. If she was under DACA or something like that. There were many programs, JR. We call them dreamers.

Dreamers. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. She mentioned that. She didn't speak. She couldn't speak English. A lick of English, right? She only spoke Spanish. And she speaks better English than I do. Oh boy, she's well-educated and it's the American dream. People come here to America every day for this, which is wonderful. Her family did it and she's so proud because they never took a penny from the government. Never a penny. Her mom never looked right at it. Worked three jobs, right?

Yep. And I want to bring up, her husband is retired from the United States Marine Corps. 22 years. Yep, just retired. Served this country. Street. They lived abroad most of their time together overseas. And I don't even remember where her daughter was born. I think it was Iraq, actually, because when she came here to America, her daughter came to America.

Oh my gosh. She came to America as a little girl. When they came back home from serving, because her husband was in the Marines there, he worked at all the consulates. So whatever country they stayed at, he protected the consulate. That was his job there. So she was there and she had many different jobs at several of those consulates as well, but she felt her daughter had a way better education there. Were in Iraq or Iran than when they came home here to Loveland Colorado.

I think I told Jan this morning, unless I misunderstood, Dave, when she got here with her daughter, she was a second grader, her, her second grader, her daughter was at a fifth grade level. Yes. And the second graders here were at second grade or below. Yes. I believe it.

And it was, and I guess I forgot my thought, Dave, I didn't want to interrupt you, but along with her parents, her mom told her, you know, not only not ever taking a handout from the government, but her mom said, I can never offer you financial stability. I can't, I can't offer you money, but what I can offer you from the United States and what I'm so proud of and what the United States is based on is I can offer you an amazing education and education will make you successful. Yes.

And that's part of her platform that she's running on and she's, she wants to make a a difference is because she wants to help educate our young people because that's what her mom is a dreamer. Like you said, JR, and you said, Dave, and she said the programs, the dream of being educated and making a better life for yourself. How can that not be a dream? And these aren't wealthy people. He's just retired from 22 years in the military and she's going to work for free if she gets this job. Yeah.

They're sacrificing. Yeah. They believe in America. Absolutely. She said when she told her husband she was going to run, do you know what her husband bought her? An American flag for one hand and the little elephant for the other. And the little elephant was red, white, and blue to match the flag. Oh, nice. She said it was so cool. And, you know, we've lost a bit of that patriot, not a bit. We've lost a lot of patriotism in the United States.

We have so many people that don't like it. They don't think it's a good place. So we need to build that patriotism back up. So again, I'm, I'm tossing out there. Yasmin for colorado.com. Please donate a hundred bucks. Also elect Gabe Evans.com. You just type in Gabe Evans. His site comes up, type in Yasmin, just the word Yasmin, she comes right up. She pops up. So yeah. I'm going to rewind a little bit just cause I miss most everything.

One thing from Tracy, super important. We picked the right plant when we're checking into Young's Ranch. We've had a slew of the wrong plants picked. You know, you're supposed to go to 12, you're going to two or vice versa. So pretty important step checking out there. Yesterday, I just want to give a shout out to Ray. I know you guys already read the High Road Hauling. He said, what should I write it on? I said, man, write something from your heart.

And then just reading his High Road Hauling this morning or last night, you know, on humility, I thought it was really cool.

Just want to throw a quote out there. And I've said this one before, but being humble is not thinking less of yourself it's thinking about yourself less right so i think that lined up with his high road holland and then on the voting i don't really get political but i did see something on one of my hunting groups and we're talking about jam out of boy out of boy this is just this is just interesting whether you wanted bulls in colorado or you didn't want bulls in colorado

the the vote was lost within one percent in favor of bringing wolves back to colorado one percent of the vote but what i read is 70 percent of the sportsmen in colorado didn't vote yeah wow so we lost by one percent but 70 of the people that hunt didn't even vote so how do we win elections on things that we want you hear so many voting you hear so many times i don't vote because it doesn't matter well we're living in a state that that's becoming clear yeah if you're hooting and hollering

about the wolves in colorado i hope you voted i hope the hope the hell you voted. Because if you didn't vote- You got to keep your mouth shut. Yep, absolutely. Can't be mad. You got to be mad. Moving on to the accident- Pulling up to this one was a little bit different because when I got there, there was a mother hugging her daughter. Ah, yeah, that's tough. And when I walked up, the mom came up to me and shook my hand. She said, I'm the mom.

She's like, this is my daughter. She's never been in an accident before. And I'll tell you what, that was a hell of a first accident. Hopefully her last, uh, the other person was already gone. The other person that broke their leg was already transported. So So, yeah, you know, we have 110 trucks on the road every day. We just, we need to be more careful. You know, it could be, I've been in accidents before that are my fault.

You know, when I was younger, you know, doing the wrong thing, going too fast for the conditions. I slid through a stop sign in the snow one time, put a Toyota, they weren't Tacomas back then, the Tundras, they were like T1000s or something. Remember those? Yeah. Yeah, Jim. I rolled one of those on South, I don't know, what street was that? I don't remember, South Broadway or University, South University.

Rolled one on his roof, and the guy kicked his windshield out, jumped out and screamed, what a ride, and gave me a hug. It was really weird. That wasn't today's accident. No, it wasn't today's accident. My point is we've all been in accidents, right?

Maybe we've caused them. but with 110 people like the the statistics and the probability of us being in accidents is high stacked against us it's stacked against us exactly jr so we gotta rise above we gotta rise above the statistics we gotta rise above the probability and just really be careful like this isn't a fucking game and we just gotta we gotta treat it like people's lives are on the line because they are luckily you know a broken leg will heal you know but god it

just it just sucks it really does so other than that soup did you have any final thoughts nope no so don't forget to like and subscribe to the channel 23 podcast hit that follow button also don't forget to go back and listen to episode 72 to help find amber's mom links to her story will be in today's show notes And with that, let's say the creed. Get on out. Yes, sir. Together we face and overcome all that stands before us. Together we are accident-free.

Together we joyfully create honest value for those we serve. Together we celebrate our differences and respect those with whom we work. Together we are accountable for our words and our actions. And together we are the JFW family. Music. Breaker breaker two three anybody got a copy on that channel 23 podcast.